Great vid mate, im curious but as to what country you reside? Im in Australia and at first i thought you were aswell but have noticed your vids are aimed at the U.S hence you always give U.S prices, reason im asking this is because you mention in your video that you had to get a nitro 5 imported from the U.S to review it which also indicated to me that you dont live in the U.S, not that it matters but just thought if you were in Australia im highly surprised you werent able to get your hands on the nitro v or nitro 16/17 to do a review, but do understand they have not been out long, looking forward to eventually seeing you review these models. You just scored yourself another sub! Keep up the informative videos dude
@@ReinisOsins Maybe in future, as far as we can tell they don't seem to have big shops like bestbuy/newegg/microcenter, so I'm not even sure where people buy them to look for deals. Every time we ask in comments like this one, no one replies.
Can anyone help me im split between getting the legion slim 7i gen 8 with intel 17-3700H and RTX 4060 or dell g16 with intel i9-13900HX and RTX 4070 ik the specs look a lot better but peoples reviews have made me doubt myself
@@EthanMcIntosh-qx1pmtake the strix g16.Better build quality better costumazation better keyboard and a decent price now with black Friday.If not the slim i7 is good as well but I prefer the strix(have both)
@@EthanMcIntosh-qx1pmI don't think Dell is worth.I know it seems better by specs but doesn't have the cooling and the 4060 is identical to 4070 anyways.
Legion Slim 7i is easily A tier, none other in its price range are built that good. As an overall laptop it reigns supreme in under $2000 with its screen, keyboard, metal chassis and performance (rtx 4070 is a great mid-tier gpu with its efficiency and framegen)
as good as legion pro 5i in terms of performance, but build quality is better, it weigh 0.5 kg less and quite thin. (legion pro 5i also feels very premium though). so idk why the guy set it in B tier@@mainacc2480
Been looking for a new gaming laptop for two months. These videos have been amazingly helpful. Sadly the country in which I live doesn't have the same deals or models or prices available, but I can still gauge roughly what I want. Now I just need to decide to actually spend the money.
@@Karthik2k06 yeah!! Using it for 15 days. Best in this range. Firstly you will get 3050 in rog and no numpad. But I bought i7 13th gen 16gb ram 1 tb ssd and rtx 4050 in 94k. Display, keyboard, gaming experience is on top trust me. My friends also tried my laptop and they will also but this laptop. Go for it
I just recently bought the Legion Pro 7i from B&H after watching your review on it and seeing it on sale on your website. It's only been a few days, but so far I absolutely love it! Crazy how much power can be in a laptop these days. My previous laptop was a XMG Xenia 15, which I also got after watching your review on it a couple years ago, and that has been super awesome as well. Now my wife will be using it. Thanks for your thorough and hard work!
Can anyone help me im split between getting the legion slim 7i gen 8 with intel 17-3700H and RTX 4060 or dell g16 with intel i9-13900HX and RTX 4070 ik the specs look a lot better but peoples reviews have made me doubt myself
I struggle agreeing with the Zephyrus M16 being in S tier after ASUS sent out the variant with a 4070 and mini led to reviewers, but decided to not sell that variant in certain markets like the US, locking the mini led display to the more expensive 4080 and 4090 variants. This feels scummy from ASUS
Nah, you can buy a 4070 variant M16 with miniled But just not the US Definitely a dealbreaker for 2k, but for 1.5k? Considering the fact that you’re buying a t/l with a completely redesigned chassis + mobo for features typically only seen on thicker laptops? I would say it’s S tier. As much as ppl trash on the 4070 about not getting more performance, the power efficiency really comes into play here as the M16, a t/l laptop, doesn’t have to partially cripple itself for the thing to even work. I’ll stop circlejerking this thing, but I feel like if you’re very technically capable and are aware of ghelper, then this is the laptop to go for. But solely for performance alone? Yeah, I agree with y’all lmaoooo
I had been waiting for these reviews (thank you so much) Jarrod brilliant line up as always! I am going for the Strix G 16, Black Friday special and because the specs!
@@claudiociucur9306 The only complaint I have is with the screen. The colors aren't great and there is a decent bit of smearing compared to better panels, but it is 144hz with gsync, so it isn't all bad.
@@echoavell954 my only problem with it is the screen. It has a fair bit of ghosting/smearing compared to what I'm used to, but I don't notice it as much these days.
Only flaw is unupgradable RAM slots, and it should disqualify it being S tier. Definitely A tier. Id still pick Nitro V 16, cheaper, more upgrades and have Liquid Metal in it. Also for anyone curious, Nitro 5 and Nitro V are two different laptops. Check out Nitro V 16 or 17. Budget and High Tier.
Thanks for the review. I've decided to go for Asus TUF A15 because of you. I already have a PC gaming, but my job require me to travel constantly. Sometimes, it's good to have a budget gaming laptop to cope with the after work.
As a legion slim 7(AMD) user, it's plain perfect. Productivity-wise: Performance good enough for University projects . 4060 is quite capable of small to medium scale neural network training for edge AI in local environment. Extraordinary build quality, excellent 240hz 2.5k display suitable for all kinds of use cases, dead silent under light load, impressive battery life. Gaming: quite good when I play Cyberpunk. With the efficiency of 40 series GPU, I can achieve 70-80 fps at ultra when 140w portables adapter is plugged in. In cs2 the full potential of 240hz can be utilized. In a laptop form factor, it ticks all the boxes.
I love seeing all these comments on people thinking the legion slim 7 is underrated. It actually makes the laptop look better, which couldn't have happened if it wasn't originally reviewed as it was.
@@yeye3124 Hardly warm to the touch when I use battery. No guarantee if you plan to game a lot. I've been running ROS Simulation in Ubuntu and debugging requires me to build the project every single time, therefore I can definitely hear the fan noise in this scenario. In terms of light use, it's dead silent.
It’s hard for me to wrap my head around the Blades not having LED all over them being a Negative against them. Like, the few laptops I’ve had with LEDs on them, that gets turned off almost immediately. The Blades aren’t perfect, and they are definitely overpriced, but having a more minimal design is a benefit, I want the performance not the lightshow.
I thought all the rgb mentions were a joke lol I understand rbg as a very subjective like and dislike thing with gaming laptops (same with flashy designs) I, personally, have thought gaming laptops should have moved on from those things by now, but I can see how a laptop w/ very little unique design aesthetics could be bad for brand recognition. tldr; You want boring, but not too boring
Thank you so much Jarrod! Over the past 3/4 months you’ve been the main source of information to learn about laptops. And helped me finally pick the Legion Pro 7i with a rtx 4080 👌 bought it thanks to the B&H sale. I live in SA and the shipping from overseas was one of our best experience with customs and shipping thanks to B&H & DHL. Even arriving a day and a half earlier than expected! Only regret is we bought it when it was still only $650 when the next week it dropped to $750 off 😂.
@@ashendrannaidoo9511 customs ended up being R6 600 (R19 ~ $1) on amazon it was estimated closer to R9 000 when we checked there to compare pricing & Shipping was like $135
The Legion Pro and LOQ series is one of the best gaming laptops that Lenovo launched in 2023 which has overperformed than other laptops and has plenty of room to upgradeability
I'm a little disappointed that you didn't recognized the excellent 1000nits Mini-LED Panel on the Predator Helios 18. That's what it make it better compared to other 18 inch Laptops. And the price is very good.
Thank you for helping me find my first gaming laptop. First time not playing on a console lol. Went with the Predator neo 16 4050 since it was on sale.
Where I live, prices vary widely from US prices, so I'd love this tier list but with price ranges on the y-axis and ordering the laptops by how cheap they'd need to be to be considered S tier. Adding a color code for how likely you'll find the laptops at their 'S tier prices' would be the cherry on top
G16 in S where it's supposed to be🤌. But in all seriousness this really puts in perspective how many laptops Jarrods reviews. Thanks for all the great content.
Price is mentioned where relevant, though only in a range. I mentioned a few times that prices change all the time, and they're also regional, so I don't think it's useful putting a price up that might be completely wrong the next day.
Prices never stay the same, especially around the holidays and he lives in Australia not US and prices can be all over the place....if you see a laptop you are interested in check the price ffs how lazy are you
I bought Strix Scar 17 RTX 4090 this year. This is my second laptop which I bought based on this channel recommendation and review. Thanks to Jarrod, choosing a laptop has never been this easy.
Nice, i also have it. I upgraded it to the max 64 gigs of ram. I so wanted the scar 18, 4090 where you can get up to 128 but it was out of stock. Can’t win em all
Slim 7/7i is easy no 1 of the s tier. Best build quality, best price to performance to build ratio, best specs & upgradibility for price (16gb soldered & only 40dollar for another 16gig 5600), 2 m.2, all 10gig usb, tb4, type c charging 140w, sd card slot, most importantly you can turn off dedicated gpu completely, great color accurate 165hz 3.2k screen option for 20 bucks 😂, great keyboard as usual Lenovo, great doorstep support for 1yr free, 99.9wh battery, i just don't see how it's not top of s tier, The only thing they can improve is give an mini led screen as option or even better oled. I don't get why a "gaming laptop" has to be have only gpu & cpu specs & wattages to be great if that's what you want better build a pc.
Some people don't want low powered gpus such as 4060/70s in their laptop. I like have the 4090m in mine as I have a portable machine with 3090/4070ti desktop level performance wherever I go
Can anyone help me im split between getting the legion slim 7i gen 8 with intel 17-3700H and RTX 4060 or dell g16 with intel i9-13900HX and RTX 4070 ik the specs look a lot better but peoples reviews have made me doubt myself
I have a 4k 60fps dell external monitor at home. So picking 3k display will have a bit of overlapping in terms of functionality. But that's just me. No matter what kind of peripherals you have, legion slim 7 is easily the best choice for most people this year without breaking their wallets
Can anyone help me im split between getting the legion slim 7i gen 8 with intel 17-3700H and RTX 4060 or dell g16 with intel i9-13900HX and RTX 4070 ik the specs look a lot better but peoples reviews have made me doubt myself
@@EthanMcIntosh-qx1pm Guys don’t get the legion slim 7 Amd version. I ordered one and got it but the next day it was not turning on. Then I asked for a replacement but then the build quality was really really bad and I asked for a refund but it’s been more than 23 days they haven’t given me my refund. But the idiot me still wanted this laptop and ordered it again without getting my refund and got it today but the type c Port are not work and if I try to pick it up by one hand from the corner it makes a sound like it’s about to break.
IMO The helios neo 16 is waaay better and is heavily underrated. It has liquid metal, better cooling, hx intel processors and i think killer wifi card, upgradable in all slots, mux switch and all that for 1.2k+, dollars not to mention Newly upgraded design of the helios series. I think it competes with Legion 5 in the midrange area. HELLA way better than those microwave TUF series be it amd or intel version. No ports at the back is a downgrade
Well, Legion 7i is for in the premium ish range. The helios Neo is the budget option which competes with legion 5 also way cheapre, the Helios 16 is the more premium one and Im talkin the neo 16 here. Also Screen from the helios neo has QHD 16:10@@rajyavardhansingh4491
Jarrod...wonderful work all year as well as this roundup video. I have been in IT for 43 years and have gotten into gaming recently. Your fhannel is must see viewing fir me. I eould enjoy chatting with you about tech snd prodicing TH-cam videos, as it is an area i am interested in getting involvrd with. Again, thank you for all of your efforts. I appreciate it, and im sure others do as well.
I bought the RTX 4070 version recently. It doesn't thermal throttle, the screen is professional grade, and the port selection is generous. Liquid metal thermal paste, a mux switch plus several other positive things. Jarrod made a huge mistake right here with that model, and it's a shame he doesn't see it himself. ASUS TUF laptops and the Acer Nitro are lower quality and budget laptops.
Hey Jarrodd! Thanks a lot for your videos! In the past 2 weeks I spent hours and hours researching what laptop to buy during Black Friday and ended up going with the Asus ROG STRIX G16. Happy to see it in S-tier!
The Victus definitely needs more love. One thing you left out, is that you can customize it to your specs on the HP online store. Also, they always have sales on their gaming laptops.
>you can customize it for to your specs on the HP online store >they always have sales on their gaming laptops isnt this true for every laptop though 😭😭😭
damn i think this years helios 16 was quite a beaut, sad we missed out on it. ( oh but it has only 1 m.2 slot just like the HP Transcend) and whats up with the nitro V ? was it a south-east asia only release or something ? all the alienware's brightness power budget went into the LED brightness hahaha classic btw, love this format where you personally pick your fav laptop out of them, and share your opinion as to why. its so nice. completely subjective yet somehow remains objective.
Yeah the Helios 16 with the Mini-LED screen is super good. While it "only" tops out with an RTX 4080, the 4090 isn't much better but would be much more expensive, not to mention it's pretty reasonable for a Mini LED config; I've seen it on Amazon for about $2500. For a top of the line screen, an Intel Core i9-13900HX, and an RTX 4080, that's impressive, apart from the battery and performance on battery.
Fantastic and comprehensive reviews. Thank you for your deal website as well, went ahead and snagged the legion 5 pro (i9/4070/32gb RAM) can’t wait to play on it.
I picked up the Legion pro 7i at B&H Video with the RTX 4090 for $2499 us. Great machine so far. I need to dial in the fan curve and undervolt to lower the noise.
I just bought the Asus strix g16 on Amazon during the Black Friday special offer. I mainly have an Acer background, so the rgb backlit keyboard was a plus for me. And I’m a game dev and casual gamer, so I’m excited to see the power of Asus. This is perfect timing because my Acer Aspire 5 recently died, and I’m in dire need of a reliable laptop so I can play games and design my own games.
I bought an Aorus 17X at the beginning of the year and I'm very happy with it. I've had no concerns with the display even though, technically, it's on the lower end...I just don't notice any issues when playing games. The only thing I don't really like is the backlit keyboard as mentioned by Jarrod. It's a strong performer in games and I've put countless hours on this thing, mostly playing games and watching videos. I really have no complaints...yet!
Got a G14 zephrus 7940hs@5.2ghz, 16g ddr5 5800 ram, rtx 4060 for 1000 on sale, and an extra 90 for a 32 gig stick of ram. Absolutelly nothing on the list is a better deal than that.
1st of all, I really like this kind of videos from you. Excellent and super informative. 2ndly, i think it will be much easier if you rank it based on how much would you recommend the laptop rather than the overall aspect of the laptop. Of course your recommendation will consider the overall aspect, but ranking by recommendation will be easier to do especially for those laptops that hv lots of good features but totally not recommended due to unreasonable price, like the titan gt77 (if im not mistaken).
Things to consider with Razer: - They typically run marginally quieter with their vapor chamber cooling. - Might feel like a “metal slab” but it also feels premium without all that junk plastic flex. Keyboard, hinges, screen flex are all S-tier. - Doesn’t “look like” a gaming laptop. You can easily put a sleeve over the Razer LOGO so it appears great if you’re using it in a professional setting. - Lastly, their screens typically reach 500 nits versus the standard 300 which really brings out colors/contrast and is beautiful to play games/movies on.
What gaming laptop are you using Jarrod? I recently got the Gigabyte Aorus 17H. Got this model as it had the cheapest 4080 at $2999 AUD and next one was $700 more
its not often i consume content from my FAVORITE creators over 10 min, i eated the whole vid learning (and laughing.. XD has brighty light? S) thanks for your job and if only you could twist a lil and use the Laptops (or items you comparing) with a color background to make a dif between low mid and high $$$, so people dont find it weird you put in the same bracket a 14¨ $650 and a 18¨ $5k laptop, i think i understood your metrics (thats why im getting either LOQ a strix 16 or the legion pro 5i (depending which one its more money worthy atm in mexico) looking to know more of your content (specially pc which is gonna be next buy)
I just received my TUF F15 with a i7-12700H and RTX4060, 515GB SSD and 16GB RAM that I bought for 999 Eur on this Black Friday weekend on Amazon. My other option was Acer Nitro 5 with a ryzen 7 5800H and RTX3070, with a 1TB SSD and 16GB RAM but would cost me 100 Eur more. I watched like 20-30 reviews on TH-cam and read a lot of comments on Amazon and decided to go for the TUF and just to upgrade it with a 1TB SSD, which costs around 50-60 Eur on Amazon. I decided against the Nitro, because it seems like it has a big overheating problem (and by that I mean above average). And I know a RTX3070 sounds nice but it looks like the 4060 works more efficently with power and offers with DLSS more longevity in the future and that by being very similar in performance. Also TUF F15 looks way nicer (for me) and feels less like cheap plastic. A bit disappointed that it landed almost on the last place in your list, although I know you reviewed it with different specs.
I would agree with the general trend of these rankings. Lenovo in S-tier, Asus in A-tier, and everyone else… who cares. When I’ve looked at laptops this year, I tried to consider MSI and Dell and HP, but they all seemed lackluster compared to the top 2. I am speaking as an owner of last year’s GE66 3070ti. I will never buy another MSI again. Very bad keyboard build quality. I have my first Asus now and lots of Lenovos in the past. My next laptop will be back to Lenovo.
I was very tempted to get the Scar g16 but there was a vector gp68hx with a 4080 for $2600aud that I couldn't go past. Thank you for all the videos its been a big help.
Awesome video, thanks for your content. You made me choose the Slim 7i and i am soo happy with that device. For my purpose, traveling and developing as a full-stack engineer around the world, I have the possibility to game on that device, which is a great choice. The built quality is like from another planet. :)
Hey, how's the screen there? If you have the 2.5k display, could you share if it's good enough for coding/reading text for a long time? I spend a lot of time working with text, so I wonder if it'll be much worse compared to my MacBook. My eyes don't get tired when using a Macbook.
Yes i own the 2,5k Version. To be honest, this was the only thing i was sure about. Should i take the 3.2k Version or the 2.5k. I chose the 2.5k because i think the resolution ist quite enought for the screen size. I prefere a 500nints display with HDR support. To your question, the display is quite amazing. I own a MSI Gaming Monitor (2022 Version) and in direct compare, the lenovo has better colors.. @@ant4686
The GPU seems like to have a temperatur limit at 87 degrees.. The cpu is in idle around 52degress and can go up 95 under full workload. @@amirabdram6412
I picked up LOQ 15.6" (1920x1080) 144Hz - Core i7-13620H - GeForce RTX 4060 - 16GB RAM - 512GB on promotion for £720 before you upload your video,now I know I made a good decision. I'm very happy 🎉
I am about to buy a Rog Strix g16 2023 laptop the lowest version 16GB ram 512 GB with rtx 4060 and i7 13th gen, so can you upgrade the RAM on this laptop to 32GB RAM and upgrade the storage to 1TB or 2TB ?
After hearing Jarrod's take on the X16, I can't help but feel lucky for getting mine with pre-installed AWCC loading up within ~8 seconds at a discount price of $1699 (4060 -140W) from Dell's website 😁
My girlfriend recently bought the MSI GF63 because she's a casual gamer and she doesn't mind details. We live in New Caledonia so we don't have much choice. Even though it is ranked on F tier, I believe it's the best laptop you can get if you live somewhere you don't have much laptop options and if you're on a low budget. She never complained about the keyboard, nor the screen or the plugs being on the right side (usually at the back). If you're not that picky, then it's a great laptop. So far we have spent good time on Palworld with highest graphics and she never encountered an issue or crash, the laptop does the job great! She's also taking care of her stuff so having a delicate laptop because of the mats isn't a problem either. For its price, this laptop shouldn't be included in this tier list I reckon? Or at least F tier shouldn't be considered as "bad" or "should/must avoid" if that's what you think. I hope this review helps!
I got my legion pro 7i with a 4090 for $2100 plus tax... it has to have the best cooling I have ever had in a laptop as it never goes above 87c on CPU at the full 80 watts or above 77c on the GPU at full 175w all at full load at the same time 255w.... it's crazy good, best performer easily this year and the value, my goodness, the value
If laptops are missing from these videos, it's just that we didn't get it for review during that period. We have had ongoing issues getting Dell/Alienware in a timely period.
I really feel like the Lenovo Legion Slim 5 14 OLED not supporting G-sync/Freesync in the end really hurts it... Though given that I do most my gaming on a monitor I am still considering it. It is rather unacceptable though for a laptop of that price.
Big sad no acer predator Helios 16 review :( . But i decided to go with it anyway since it was on sale at newegg for 1200 USD for the 4060 varient making it cheaper than the legion pro 5 4060 . Hope i made the right choice jarrod 🤔
I grabbed the Lenovo Legion Pro 7i 13900HX/4080 version for $1899 on a Black Friday sale. For that price I couldn’t pass it up and actually returned the Asus Zephyrus M16 13900H/4070 I got the same week for $1499. For the extra $400, it was a no brainer.
Just ordered a Legion Slim 5 for $1200 due to black friday sale. It has the 1440p 165hz screen, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd. In my region, the TUF A15 is around 1300-1400 and never goes on sale and has the inferior 45%srgb screen and only 8gb ram and 512gb ssd. Just here for confirmarion bias on my choice hehe
They did get a refreshed Legion 5 in China and the US, and it's a killer for what you could get for around 1000USD: 4060 140W, R7-7735HS, 2K 165Hz with 16:9, and Legion 5 2022 quality built.
@@justinhawk835the Helios 16 at 2000$ doesn't have the mini led display and there are no reliable reviews online about it so don't know about the color gamut it has .... Also I've heard that it has a lot of fan noise in performance mode. Do you have this model ? If yes It would be great if you can help me out :) I was deciding between M16 , strix G16, and Helios 16 ... Not Lenovo cuz it's color gamut is crap
@@shanmukhsrikar fan noise can be reduced by lowering fan speed and considering the cooling it provides through its liquid metal cooling, so fan noise is obvious imo. Talking about display, Its display covers 100% of the sRGB/ITU-R BT.709 (web/HDTV standard) in CIE1976, and 99% of DCI-P3, ensuring a super vibrant and attractive picture. You can check online for further technical specification. I can't comment on asus m16 but i think it's better than g16
I am still hesiting between A15 2023 and legion 5 slim with same gpu cpu spec 😭 anyways good video like always prob the best this years for me because u talking about every laptop and made a tier list it’s a good idea. Keep up the good work
I got the Asus ROG strix 18- which is pretty much the scar without some rgb. It's a 13980hx with a 4080 and is frequently on sale for 2100$ on best buy. Its an absolute beast and the screen is almost as good as you can get without being oled
What reviewing more boutique builds (Origin, Falcon Northwest,XMG,ect) to the more premium builds from Lenovo and Asus? Just a thought I had. Thanks for the content Jarrod
After a long time of watching your channel and learning about how to understand what I want in a laptop, I ended up settling with the Strix G18 earlier this year, looks like I chose a good one. (Even though that isn't on the list.) Just a larger screen than the G16. Thank you!
I've had my Legion 5i Pro 3070ti for some time now. I must say It's been running near perfect for me. It's been really good, not looking to upgrade it anytime soon.
U think slim 5 is good option? I can get one with 240hz and 500 nits screen rtx 4060 and ryzen 7 but does yours have coil whine and backlight bleed? And how is the fan noise
Legion laptops are top tiers. You can't go wrong with them. My legion 5 pro 3070 2021 variant is still kicking. Using it on editing and gaming 2 years with no issue
Thank you , for your Video. I wish we have someone like you with a laptop deal page here in Germany, because the Prices here are way different then yours.
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I wish you would cover good laptop deals also from Europe. Pretty please?
Dear Jarod, did you think about researching “FPS drops” problem? What hardware or software issues cause these drops if average and max FPS are decent?
Great vid mate, im curious but as to what country you reside? Im in Australia and at first i thought you were aswell but have noticed your vids are aimed at the U.S hence you always give U.S prices, reason im asking this is because you mention in your video that you had to get a nitro 5 imported from the U.S to review it which also indicated to me that you dont live in the U.S, not that it matters but just thought if you were in Australia im highly surprised you werent able to get your hands on the nitro v or nitro 16/17 to do a review, but do understand they have not been out long, looking forward to eventually seeing you review these models. You just scored yourself another sub! Keep up the informative videos dude
@@ReinisOsins i wish...
@@ReinisOsins Maybe in future, as far as we can tell they don't seem to have big shops like bestbuy/newegg/microcenter, so I'm not even sure where people buy them to look for deals. Every time we ask in comments like this one, no one replies.
This just proves how great of a job Lenovo are doing. Also as a legion slim 7i owner I think it's definitely at least A tier.
Can anyone help me im split between getting the legion slim 7i gen 8 with intel 17-3700H and RTX 4060 or dell g16 with intel i9-13900HX and RTX 4070 ik the specs look a lot better but peoples reviews have made me doubt myself
@@EthanMcIntosh-qx1pmtake the strix g16.Better build quality better costumazation better keyboard and a decent price now with black Friday.If not the slim i7 is good as well but I prefer the strix(have both)
@@EthanMcIntosh-qx1pmI don't think Dell is worth.I know it seems better by specs but doesn't have the cooling and the 4060 is identical to 4070 anyways.
@@EthanMcIntosh-qx1pmbro definitely do not buy a dell for gaming. You'll regret it
@@EthanMcIntosh-qx1pm whatever is cheaper for the same specs. But I have to say slim 7 looks like a professional laptop which I prefer
I helpd my breath when you were deciding where the slim 5 would go as i bought it based on your review so im so happy you bumped it to S!!!!
Legion Slim 7i is easily A tier, none other in its price range are built that good. As an overall laptop it reigns supreme in under $2000 with its screen, keyboard, metal chassis and performance (rtx 4070 is a great mid-tier gpu with its efficiency and framegen)
I literaly bought it with the i9 and the 4070 for 2000€ this video made me sad to see it only is B tier.
How good do you think this laptop is?
He did say he could easily see it as A tier, problem is he still went and put it in B tier. makes me sad tbh.
as good as legion pro 5i in terms of performance, but build quality is better, it weigh 0.5 kg less and quite thin. (legion pro 5i also feels very premium though). so idk why the guy set it in B tier@@mainacc2480
@@mainacc2480brother mine is on the way but I firmly believe it is a fantastic device.
honestly Lenovo has really good laptops alongside Asus.
Been looking for a new gaming laptop for two months. These videos have been amazingly helpful. Sadly the country in which I live doesn't have the same deals or models or prices available, but I can still gauge roughly what I want. Now I just need to decide to actually spend the money.
Hello brother, which laptop did you decide on?
@@michaellopez6069hey buddy, which laptop are you choosing? I’m looking for Acer predator Helios neo 16
@@amitdas9153 same and did u buy it? I'm confused between this and strix g16
@@Karthik2k06 yeah!! Using it for 15 days. Best in this range. Firstly you will get 3050 in rog and no numpad. But I bought i7 13th gen 16gb ram 1 tb ssd and rtx 4050 in 94k. Display, keyboard, gaming experience is on top trust me. My friends also tried my laptop and they will also but this laptop. Go for it
I just recently bought the Legion Pro 7i from B&H after watching your review on it and seeing it on sale on your website. It's only been a few days, but so far I absolutely love it! Crazy how much power can be in a laptop these days. My previous laptop was a XMG Xenia 15, which I also got after watching your review on it a couple years ago, and that has been super awesome as well. Now my wife will be using it. Thanks for your thorough and hard work!
how much did you pay for yours? i paid 2k today
@@zachnicholson7924 I paid $2,089 last week. It dropped to $2k literally the next day. Lol
@@zachnicholson7924I got the 4090 version for $2500 through B&H.
@@zachnicholson7924 Yeah the 4080 is around 2k. I got the 4090 for 2,500.
are b and h reliable. is there a return policy@@zachnicholson7924
I like how the s tier contains laptops for any budget, i purchased strix g16 for $1099. and i cant wait for my first laptop to arrive!
Where'd you find it for that price?
@@ChaossX77here in the uk it’s going for £2k 🥲
Does the g16 have per key rgb or 4 zone rgb? I see many pages have both the images.
My g16 as per key RGB. I think it depends which model you get.@@bis7331
surely not new
The Lenovo Legion Slim 7/7i 4060 model is at least A tier, if not S tier. Incredible machine.
I just wish there was the choice of having it with an OLED screen. Had to go for a Vivobook instead but it was definitely at the top of my list.
@@MasoMathiou which vivobook did you get?
Can anyone help me im split between getting the legion slim 7i gen 8 with intel 17-3700H and RTX 4060 or dell g16 with intel i9-13900HX and RTX 4070 ik the specs look a lot better but peoples reviews have made me doubt myself
Yeah like I said it could definitely be A.
@@EthanMcIntosh-qx1pmdepends on your usecase
I struggle agreeing with the Zephyrus M16 being in S tier after ASUS sent out the variant with a 4070 and mini led to reviewers, but decided to not sell that variant in certain markets like the US, locking the mini led display to the more expensive 4080 and 4090 variants. This feels scummy from ASUS
Cap. 1500 at Best buy rn
@@MangaRecapandAnalysis-ll6zjit's not the mini LED. It's just a regular panel.
@@Razoronmd oh damn good to know I was thinking of buying that one
Nah, you can buy a 4070 variant M16 with miniled
But just not the US
Definitely a dealbreaker for 2k, but for 1.5k? Considering the fact that you’re buying a t/l with a completely redesigned chassis + mobo for features typically only seen on thicker laptops? I would say it’s S tier.
As much as ppl trash on the 4070 about not getting more performance, the power efficiency really comes into play here as the M16, a t/l laptop, doesn’t have to partially cripple itself for the thing to even work.
I’ll stop circlejerking this thing, but I feel like if you’re very technically capable and are aware of ghelper, then this is the laptop to go for.
But solely for performance alone? Yeah, I agree with y’all lmaoooo
Adding onto that too
The 4070 us m16’s screen is still considered like super top of the line IPS too.
I had been waiting for these reviews (thank you so much) Jarrod brilliant line up as always! I am going for the Strix G 16, Black Friday special and because the specs!
I picked up the LOQ 15 with the 4060, after your previous recommendation. It has definitely been worth it for the price.
how is going with the loq 15 ? i wanted to buy one but i don't know how it perform , same with rtx 4060
@@claudiociucur9306 The only complaint I have is with the screen. The colors aren't great and there is a decent bit of smearing compared to better panels, but it is 144hz with gsync, so it isn't all bad.
Is there any issues with the battery draining or durability issues or none? I am planning to buy a new laptop
@@echoavell954 my only problem with it is the screen. It has a fair bit of ghosting/smearing compared to what I'm used to, but I don't notice it as much these days.
LOQ is an S-tier budget laptop for sure. The amount of features it offers for that price range is really impressive
you just cannot upgrade the ram, I hate it
@@hvnsnt_9905is 16gb the maximum size of ram it can have?
@@hvnsnt_9905ryzen versions have that option ig
Only flaw is unupgradable RAM slots, and it should disqualify it being S tier. Definitely A tier. Id still pick Nitro V 16, cheaper, more upgrades and have Liquid Metal in it.
Also for anyone curious, Nitro 5 and Nitro V are two different laptops. Check out Nitro V 16 or 17. Budget and High Tier.
As far as I remember you can add more RAM to the system. Can you please clarify?@@jaerys8823
10:17 seeing that be the first s tier made me happy cause in getting one for Christmas
Thanks for the review. I've decided to go for Asus TUF A15 because of you. I already have a PC gaming, but my job require me to travel constantly. Sometimes, it's good to have a budget gaming laptop to cope with the after work.
Did you buy it? How is it? I’m considering getting one for myself for both gaming and school
@@Closedacc bad
@@lucutes2936 why
@@ClosedaccDid you get it? I wanted to get one for the same reason as yours.
As a legion slim 7(AMD) user, it's plain perfect.
Productivity-wise: Performance good enough for University projects . 4060 is quite capable of small to medium scale neural network training for edge AI in local environment. Extraordinary build quality, excellent 240hz 2.5k display suitable for all kinds of use cases, dead silent under light load, impressive battery life.
Gaming: quite good when I play Cyberpunk. With the efficiency of 40 series GPU, I can achieve 70-80 fps at ultra when 140w portables adapter is plugged in. In cs2 the full potential of 240hz can be utilized.
In a laptop form factor, it ticks all the boxes.
I love seeing all these comments on people thinking the legion slim 7 is underrated. It actually makes the laptop look better, which couldn't have happened if it wasn't originally reviewed as it was.
does the laptop get very hot and does the fan go crazy?
@@yeye3124 Hardly warm to the touch when I use battery. No guarantee if you plan to game a lot. I've been running ROS Simulation in Ubuntu and debugging requires me to build the project every single time, therefore I can definitely hear the fan noise in this scenario. In terms of light use, it's dead silent.
It’s hard for me to wrap my head around the Blades not having LED all over them being a Negative against them. Like, the few laptops I’ve had with LEDs on them, that gets turned off almost immediately. The Blades aren’t perfect, and they are definitely overpriced, but having a more minimal design is a benefit, I want the performance not the lightshow.
I thought all the rgb mentions were a joke lol
I understand rbg as a very subjective like and dislike thing with gaming laptops (same with flashy designs)
I, personally, have thought gaming laptops should have moved on from those things by now, but I can see how a laptop w/ very little unique design aesthetics could be bad for brand recognition.
tldr; You want boring, but not too boring
umm rgb equals performance duh... :)
It was a joke, M16 has a similar design to blade and it is S tier
Thank you so much Jarrod! Over the past 3/4 months you’ve been the main source of information to learn about laptops. And helped me finally pick the Legion Pro 7i with a rtx 4080 👌 bought it thanks to the B&H sale. I live in SA and the shipping from overseas was one of our best experience with customs and shipping thanks to B&H & DHL. Even arriving a day and a half earlier than expected! Only regret is we bought it when it was still only $650 when the next week it dropped to $750 off 😂.
Right now its the same thing im seeing! Is 750 off and is 1999
4080, 32gb, i9 for 1999 is a steal!
how much was the import taxes and shipping fees if you don't mind me asking
@@ashendrannaidoo9511 i just pick up at the store. Taxes says on the website
@@ashendrannaidoo9511 customs ended up being R6 600 (R19 ~ $1) on amazon it was estimated closer to R9 000 when we checked there to compare pricing
& Shipping was like $135
my dad is scared of ordering stuff from overseas because of extra hidden fees. is there any extra fees other than the stated price in the website?
thanks for the video mate, returned my gf63 and a got a tuf a16 with a 7700s for only £50 more... the difference between the two is astronomical
The Legion Pro and LOQ series is one of the best gaming laptops that Lenovo launched in 2023 which has overperformed than other laptops and has plenty of room to upgradeability
L0Q has a fatal flaw where there is an metal protrusion in one of the ssd slots and it is impossible to install full size ssd!
@@eniojurko i accept that drawback
@@gmram_0019 apart from that laptop seems excellent, but me personally i need both full size ssd spaces, to run dual systems..
@@eniojurkoit is posible. Just remove that thing. Removing it will not cause any problems.
I'm a little disappointed that you didn't recognized the excellent 1000nits Mini-LED Panel on the Predator Helios 18. That's what it make it better compared to other 18 inch Laptops. And the price is very good.
Helios Neo 16 also has a better display than all other laptops in that price range.
Just received the legion slim 5 16 with a 4070. Could not be happier with it!
wow congrats... indonesia cant get 4070 .. an d i just bought 4060 version.. and i am happy
Thank you for helping me find my first gaming laptop. First time not playing on a console lol. Went with the Predator neo 16 4050 since it was on sale.
Where I live, prices vary widely from US prices, so I'd love this tier list but with price ranges on the y-axis and ordering the laptops by how cheap they'd need to be to be considered S tier. Adding a color code for how likely you'll find the laptops at their 'S tier prices' would be the cherry on top
G16 in S where it's supposed to be🤌.
But in all seriousness this really puts in perspective how many laptops Jarrods reviews.
Thanks for all the great content.
Thanks for making this in time for black friday
No worries! Hope it helps.
Hi sir, just one suggestion from my side that when you are doing a tier list, a price tag under the name would be wonderful. Thank you ❤
Price is mentioned where relevant, though only in a range. I mentioned a few times that prices change all the time, and they're also regional, so I don't think it's useful putting a price up that might be completely wrong the next day.
Prices never stay the same, especially around the holidays and he lives in Australia not US and prices can be all over the place....if you see a laptop you are interested in check the price ffs how lazy are you
@@JarrodsTech Ok sir i understand the issue. Thank you sir for your time and love from India
I bought Strix Scar 17 RTX 4090 this year. This is my second laptop which I bought based on this channel recommendation and review. Thanks to Jarrod, choosing a laptop has never been this easy.
I'm about to get the same but 4080 with 16gb ram, how's yours
Nice, i also have it. I upgraded it to the max 64 gigs of ram. I so wanted the scar 18, 4090 where you can get up to 128 but it was out of stock. Can’t win em all
@chrisgateway7846 4080 is the best for value. I got 4090 because the 4080 was out of stock. But for me 4080 is more than enough.
@@JakeSlaughterr Damn thats nice! I can't decide a laptop that is around 1,100 dollars...
Slim 7/7i is easy no 1 of the s tier. Best build quality, best price to performance to build ratio, best specs & upgradibility for price (16gb soldered & only 40dollar for another 16gig 5600), 2 m.2, all 10gig usb, tb4, type c charging 140w, sd card slot, most importantly you can turn off dedicated gpu completely, great color accurate 165hz 3.2k screen option for 20 bucks 😂, great keyboard as usual Lenovo, great doorstep support for 1yr free, 99.9wh battery, i just don't see how it's not top of s tier,
The only thing they can improve is give an mini led screen as option or even better oled.
I don't get why a "gaming laptop" has to be have only gpu & cpu specs & wattages to be great if that's what you want better build a pc.
Some people don't want low powered gpus such as 4060/70s in their laptop. I like have the 4090m in mine as I have a portable machine with 3090/4070ti desktop level performance wherever I go
Can anyone help me im split between getting the legion slim 7i gen 8 with intel 17-3700H and RTX 4060 or dell g16 with intel i9-13900HX and RTX 4070 ik the specs look a lot better but peoples reviews have made me doubt myself
I have a 4k 60fps dell external monitor at home. So picking 3k display will have a bit of overlapping in terms of functionality. But that's just me. No matter what kind of peripherals you have, legion slim 7 is easily the best choice for most people this year without breaking their wallets
I would definelty put the slim 7i at least A tier for gaming ! and even S tier for this design and incredible build quality
Can anyone help me im split between getting the legion slim 7i gen 8 with intel 17-3700H and RTX 4060 or dell g16 with intel i9-13900HX and RTX 4070 ik the specs look a lot better but peoples reviews have made me doubt myself
@@EthanMcIntosh-qx1pmlegion easily
The slim 7 is dumb for gaming...you pay more for less performance compared to the pro
@@EthanMcIntosh-qx1pm Guys don’t get the legion slim 7 Amd version. I ordered one and got it but the next day it was not turning on. Then I asked for a replacement but then the build quality was really really bad and I asked for a refund but it’s been more than 23 days they haven’t given me my refund. But the idiot me still wanted this laptop and ordered it again without getting my refund and got it today but the type c Port are not work and if I try to pick it up by one hand from the corner it makes a sound like it’s about to break.
@@factscopy8196 You really like copy pasting your fake story everywhere huh? The storytelling does tell us that you’re a clown.
IMO The helios neo 16 is waaay better and is heavily underrated. It has liquid metal, better cooling, hx intel processors and i think killer wifi card, upgradable in all slots, mux switch and all that for 1.2k+, dollars not to mention Newly upgraded design of the helios series. I think it competes with Legion 5 in the midrange area.
HELLA way better than those microwave TUF series be it amd or intel version. No ports at the back is a downgrade
Screen is meh, slim 7i has 3.2K diaplay with excellent colour gamet.
Fully agreed! The only position I disagree with.
Well, Legion 7i is for in the premium ish range. The helios Neo is the budget option which competes with legion 5 also way cheapre, the Helios 16 is the more premium one and Im talkin the neo 16 here.
Also Screen from the helios neo has QHD 16:10@@rajyavardhansingh4491
@@jaerys8823 the display on Slim 7i is objectively better, and display matters to a lot of people
uhm....no1 here compared err let alone mentioned slim 7i. No 1 disgrees lol@@rajyavardhansingh4491
Good day Jarrod
Since both Asus Strix 16 and Asus Zephyrus M16 are in S Tier. How do they compare? Deciding between the two.
Jarrod...wonderful work all year as well as this roundup video. I have been in IT for 43 years and have gotten into gaming recently. Your fhannel is must see viewing fir me. I eould enjoy chatting with you about tech snd prodicing TH-cam videos, as it is an area i am interested in getting involvrd with.
Again, thank you for all of your efforts. I appreciate it, and im sure others do as well.
acer helios neo 16 is pretty good and well made machine.. deserves at least A tier
I bought the RTX 4070 version recently. It doesn't thermal throttle, the screen is professional grade, and the port selection is generous. Liquid metal thermal paste, a mux switch plus several other positive things. Jarrod made a huge mistake right here with that model, and it's a shame he doesn't see it himself. ASUS TUF laptops and the Acer Nitro are lower quality and budget laptops.
Hey Jarrodd! Thanks a lot for your videos! In the past 2 weeks I spent hours and hours researching what laptop to buy during Black Friday and ended up going with the Asus ROG STRIX G16. Happy to see it in S-tier!
Y como te va?
Does the g16 have per key rgb or 4 zone? I see so many pictures having both 4 zone and per key and im just super curious.
Great job as always, Jarrod! I look forward to your incoming Legion 9i review...that's the laptop I'm eyeing at the moment
The Victus definitely needs more love. One thing you left out, is that you can customize it to your specs on the HP online store. Also, they always have sales on their gaming laptops.
Does it have two m.2 slots tho?
>you can customize it for to your specs on the HP online store
>they always have sales on their gaming laptops
isnt this true for every laptop though 😭😭😭
Thanks. I had eye on LOQ all along and now I know I wasn't wrong.
The best reviewer with the best laptop comparison🔥
Thanks for sharing!
damn i think this years helios 16 was quite a beaut, sad we missed out on it. ( oh but it has only 1 m.2 slot just like the HP Transcend)
and whats up with the nitro V ? was it a south-east asia only release or something ?
all the alienware's brightness power budget went into the LED brightness hahaha classic
btw, love this format where you personally pick your fav laptop out of them, and share your opinion as to why. its so nice. completely subjective yet somehow remains objective.
Yeah the Helios 16 with the Mini-LED screen is super good. While it "only" tops out with an RTX 4080, the 4090 isn't much better but would be much more expensive, not to mention it's pretty reasonable for a Mini LED config; I've seen it on Amazon for about $2500. For a top of the line screen, an Intel Core i9-13900HX, and an RTX 4080, that's impressive, apart from the battery and performance on battery.
Who told you it has 1 m.2 slot , it has 2 bro .
Fantastic and comprehensive reviews. Thank you for your deal website as well, went ahead and snagged the legion 5 pro (i9/4070/32gb RAM) can’t wait to play on it.
This is underrated, amazing! Got the Legion 5i Pro on sale at B&H for $1399! Superb laptop!
Love my loaded Blade 18. A little overpriced but you can’t beat the build quality plus performance in such a nice chassis.
As a person whon just bought slim 5 16" yesterday i feel so happy now xD
I picked up the Legion pro 7i at B&H Video with the RTX 4090 for $2499 us. Great machine so far. I need to dial in the fan curve and undervolt to lower the noise.
I just bought the Asus strix g16 on Amazon during the Black Friday special offer. I mainly have an Acer background, so the rgb backlit keyboard was a plus for me. And I’m a game dev and casual gamer, so I’m excited to see the power of Asus. This is perfect timing because my Acer Aspire 5 recently died, and I’m in dire need of a reliable laptop so I can play games and design my own games.
Could you check out the screenbleeding? I want to get the strix g16 but I’m hearing it has so much screen bleed
I bought an Aorus 17X at the beginning of the year and I'm very happy with it. I've had no concerns with the display even though, technically, it's on the lower end...I just don't notice any issues when playing games. The only thing I don't really like is the backlit keyboard as mentioned by Jarrod. It's a strong performer in games and I've put countless hours on this thing, mostly playing games and watching videos. I really have no complaints...yet!
same, 4080 model. only thing is backlight i agree, everything else it should at least be A!
I'm planning to get one with RTX4080, how's the overall performance as I'll use it for 3D rendering & video editing.
Got a G14 zephrus 7940hs@5.2ghz, 16g ddr5 5800 ram, rtx 4060 for 1000 on sale, and an extra 90 for a 32 gig stick of ram. Absolutelly nothing on the list is a better deal than that.
1st of all, I really like this kind of videos from you. Excellent and super informative. 2ndly, i think it will be much easier if you rank it based on how much would you recommend the laptop rather than the overall aspect of the laptop. Of course your recommendation will consider the overall aspect, but ranking by recommendation will be easier to do especially for those laptops that hv lots of good features but totally not recommended due to unreasonable price, like the titan gt77 (if im not mistaken).
Things to consider with Razer:
- They typically run marginally quieter with their vapor chamber cooling.
- Might feel like a “metal slab” but it also feels premium without all that junk plastic flex. Keyboard, hinges, screen flex are all S-tier.
- Doesn’t “look like” a gaming laptop. You can easily put a sleeve over the Razer LOGO so it appears great if you’re using it in a professional setting.
- Lastly, their screens typically reach 500 nits versus the standard 300 which really brings out colors/contrast and is beautiful to play games/movies on.
What gaming laptop are you using Jarrod? I recently got the Gigabyte Aorus 17H. Got this model as it had the cheapest 4080 at $2999 AUD and next one was $700 more
I'm still using my Lenovo y510P I got in 2013! I'm in the market for a new laptop and I'll be sticking with Lenovo.
Thank you for all the work you put in to your reviews. Greatly appreciated.
its not often i consume content from my FAVORITE creators over 10 min, i eated the whole vid learning (and laughing.. XD has brighty light? S) thanks for your job and if only you could twist a lil and use the Laptops (or items you comparing) with a color background to make a dif between low mid and high $$$, so people dont find it weird you put in the same bracket a 14¨ $650 and a 18¨ $5k laptop, i think i understood your metrics (thats why im getting either LOQ a strix 16 or the legion pro 5i (depending which one its more money worthy atm in mexico) looking to know more of your content (specially pc which is gonna be next buy)
Slim 7i is easily A tier
I just received my TUF F15 with a i7-12700H and RTX4060, 515GB SSD and 16GB RAM that I bought for 999 Eur on this Black Friday weekend on Amazon.
My other option was Acer Nitro 5 with a ryzen 7 5800H and RTX3070, with a 1TB SSD and 16GB RAM but would cost me 100 Eur more.
I watched like 20-30 reviews on TH-cam and read a lot of comments on Amazon and decided to go for the TUF and just to upgrade it with a 1TB SSD, which costs around 50-60 Eur on Amazon. I decided against the Nitro, because it seems like it has a big overheating problem (and by that I mean above average). And I know a RTX3070 sounds nice but it looks like the 4060 works more efficently with power and offers with DLSS more longevity in the future and that by being very similar in performance.
Also TUF F15 looks way nicer (for me) and feels less like cheap plastic.
A bit disappointed that it landed almost on the last place in your list, although I know you reviewed it with different specs.
I would agree with the general trend of these rankings. Lenovo in S-tier, Asus in A-tier, and everyone else… who cares. When I’ve looked at laptops this year, I tried to consider MSI and Dell and HP, but they all seemed lackluster compared to the top 2. I am speaking as an owner of last year’s GE66 3070ti. I will never buy another MSI again. Very bad keyboard build quality. I have my first Asus now and lots of Lenovos in the past. My next laptop will be back to Lenovo.
Lenovo and Asus are far ahead of the game when it comes to Gaming Laptops!
I only disagree with ur Legion Slim 7 ranking, its an easy A tier
I was very tempted to get the Scar g16 but there was a vector gp68hx with a 4080 for $2600aud that I couldn't go past.
Thank you for all the videos its been a big help.
Awesome video, thanks for your content.
You made me choose the Slim 7i and i am soo happy with that device.
For my purpose, traveling and developing as a full-stack engineer around the world, I have the possibility to game on that device, which is a great choice.
The built quality is like from another planet. :)
Hey, how's the screen there? If you have the 2.5k display, could you share if it's good enough for coding/reading text for a long time? I spend a lot of time working with text, so I wonder if it'll be much worse compared to my MacBook. My eyes don't get tired when using a Macbook.
@@ant4686 there is a 3.2k display option for coders like you
Hey , how are the temperatures? In idle and full load
Yes i own the 2,5k Version. To be honest, this was the only thing i was sure about. Should i take the 3.2k Version or the 2.5k.
I chose the 2.5k because i think the resolution ist quite enought for the screen size. I prefere a 500nints display with HDR support.
To your question, the display is quite amazing. I own a MSI Gaming Monitor (2022 Version) and in direct compare, the lenovo has better colors.. @@ant4686
The GPU seems like to have a temperatur limit at 87 degrees.. The cpu is in idle around 52degress and can go up 95 under full workload.
@@amirabdram6412
I picked up LOQ 15.6" (1920x1080) 144Hz - Core i7-13620H - GeForce RTX 4060 - 16GB RAM - 512GB on promotion for £720 before you upload your video,now I know I made a good decision. I'm very happy 🎉
@jarrodstech - is the Asus ROG strix g18 similar to the scar 18 or are they different? Which one did you rate? Would you rate the g18 lower?
are u decide
Can’t imagine how much hard work went into this. Appreciate it!
Snagged a Legion 7 (4080) for 2k, arrives tomorrow from B&H! Thanks for the info man…I think it’s a great deal with 1TB nvme and 32GB RAM.
Damn bro wearing awesome shirts broski!!🤘
I am about to buy a Rog Strix g16 2023 laptop the lowest version 16GB ram 512 GB with rtx 4060 and i7 13th gen, so can you upgrade the RAM on this laptop to 32GB RAM and upgrade the storage to 1TB or 2TB ?
Been a week since I've got my legion slim 5 4060.
Everything about it hella amazing specially the screen. It looks so nice
After hearing Jarrod's take on the X16, I can't help but feel lucky for getting mine with pre-installed AWCC loading up within ~8 seconds at a discount price of $1699 (4060 -140W) from Dell's website 😁
Very happy with my X14r2, 4060 and 32 gig
Nice. I think they should've gone with 4070 though.
At the power levels the X14 is running the GPU at, the 4060 makes the most sense
4060 laptop for $1600 is a scam, don't know why you are so happy. 4070 laptops are in this price range and even one 4080 laptop.
Show me one as thin and portable as the X14 and portability was my main reason I wanted it for.
My girlfriend recently bought the MSI GF63 because she's a casual gamer and she doesn't mind details. We live in New Caledonia so we don't have much choice. Even though it is ranked on F tier, I believe it's the best laptop you can get if you live somewhere you don't have much laptop options and if you're on a low budget. She never complained about the keyboard, nor the screen or the plugs being on the right side (usually at the back). If you're not that picky, then it's a great laptop.
So far we have spent good time on Palworld with highest graphics and she never encountered an issue or crash, the laptop does the job great! She's also taking care of her stuff so having a delicate laptop because of the mats isn't a problem either.
For its price, this laptop shouldn't be included in this tier list I reckon? Or at least F tier shouldn't be considered as "bad" or "should/must avoid" if that's what you think.
I hope this review helps!
I got my legion pro 7i with a 4090 for $2100 plus tax... it has to have the best cooling I have ever had in a laptop as it never goes above 87c on CPU at the full 80 watts or above 77c on the GPU at full 175w all at full load at the same time 255w.... it's crazy good, best performer easily this year and the value, my goodness, the value
Where did you find that with those specs for that money?
where did you get the 4090 for that?!? i just got the 4080 one for 2k
@@zachnicholson7924 lenovo website, coupon stacking, first responder discount, about $300 back via Rakuten
Great Video ! Was wondering why you didn't cover the 2023 version of the Dell G15 5530
If laptops are missing from these videos, it's just that we didn't get it for review during that period. We have had ongoing issues getting Dell/Alienware in a timely period.
I really feel like the Lenovo Legion Slim 5 14 OLED not supporting G-sync/Freesync in the end really hurts it... Though given that I do most my gaming on a monitor I am still considering it. It is rather unacceptable though for a laptop of that price.
Take the 16 inch with the 4070
"Nothing in Life is perfect"
Man never had Nutella.
Full of palm oil. Ruined.
Such a crazy year that Jarrod never even tested the Zephyrus duo 16 with the 7945HX.
So sad. We tried to get one but didn't have any luck.
Big sad no acer predator Helios 16 review :( . But i decided to go with it anyway since it was on sale at newegg for 1200 USD for the 4060 varient making it cheaper than the legion pro 5 4060 . Hope i made the right choice jarrod 🤔
I think it is
Yeah it's pretty good from what I've heard, bit annoyed we couldn't get it.
@@JarrodsTechalr ty for the reassurance :D
Hi Jarrod, what would you rate this -
Lenovo Legion Pro 5 AMD (2023) specs:
- **Processor:** Ryzen 9 7945HX (16 core, 32 threads, 5.4GHz, 80MB cache)
- **GPU:** RTX 4060 8GB (140W, DLSS 3)
- **Display:** 16-inch, 240Hz, 16:10, 2560x1600 QHD IPS, 500 nits, HDR 400, 3ms response time, G-Sync, Dolby Vision, X-Rite, Delta
Helios 16 the best
I grabbed the Lenovo Legion Pro 7i 13900HX/4080 version for $1899 on a Black Friday sale. For that price I couldn’t pass it up and actually returned the Asus Zephyrus M16 13900H/4070 I got the same week for $1499. For the extra $400, it was a no brainer.
I honestly cannot believe you actually did this. Thank you very much!
No problem, thanks for watching!
Just ordered a Legion Slim 5 for $1200 due to black friday sale. It has the 1440p 165hz screen, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd. In my region, the TUF A15 is around 1300-1400 and never goes on sale and has the inferior 45%srgb screen and only 8gb ram and 512gb ssd.
Just here for confirmarion bias on my choice hehe
They did get a refreshed Legion 5 in China and the US, and it's a killer for what you could get for around 1000USD: 4060 140W, R7-7735HS, 2K 165Hz with 16:9, and Legion 5 2022 quality built.
Where, i cant find it in us
Happy to see Slim 5 in S tier 🤩
Great video pal you ranked the Helios 18 but what about the helios 16 what rank would it get in your opinion? Also what about the Alienware M16?
Unfortunately, we didn't receive either this year, so I can't say where they'd go.
helios 16 is amazing imo
@@JarrodsTechthanks for the reply mate
@@justinhawk835the Helios 16 at 2000$ doesn't have the mini led display and there are no reliable reviews online about it so don't know about the color gamut it has ....
Also I've heard that it has a lot of fan noise in performance mode.
Do you have this model ? If yes It would be great if you can help me out :)
I was deciding between M16 , strix G16, and Helios 16 ...
Not Lenovo cuz it's color gamut is crap
@@shanmukhsrikar fan noise can be reduced by lowering fan speed and considering the cooling it provides through its liquid metal cooling, so fan noise is obvious imo. Talking about display, Its display covers 100% of the sRGB/ITU-R BT.709 (web/HDTV standard) in CIE1976, and 99% of DCI-P3, ensuring a super vibrant and attractive picture.
You can check online for further technical specification.
I can't comment on asus m16 but i think it's better than g16
Great video. Came right on time.
I just got the Strix G16 4060 cuz of your videos and I love it! Thanks for the recommendation :)
Does the g16 have per key rgb or 4 zone rgb? I see many pages have both the images.
Now the strix G series are over the Scar series. What a time to be alive!
Thanks a lot Jarrod. What an amazing work
I am still hesiting between A15 2023 and legion 5 slim with same gpu cpu spec 😭 anyways good video like always prob the best this years for me because u talking about every laptop and made a tier list it’s a good idea. Keep up the good work
I got the Asus ROG strix 18- which is pretty much the scar without some rgb. It's a 13980hx with a 4080 and is frequently on sale for 2100$ on best buy. Its an absolute beast and the screen is almost as good as you can get without being oled
Strix g18 has 4080 specs? For example g16 has only 4070
I come here for the metal t-shirts, and stay for the tech content. Metal, straight to S tier.
What reviewing more boutique builds (Origin, Falcon Northwest,XMG,ect) to the more premium builds from Lenovo and Asus? Just a thought I had. Thanks for the content Jarrod
After a long time of watching your channel and learning about how to understand what I want in a laptop, I ended up settling with the Strix G18 earlier this year, looks like I chose a good one. (Even though that isn't on the list.) Just a larger screen than the G16. Thank you!
Yeah we didn't get that one this year, but I believe it's quite similar to the Scar version which did rate highly, hope you enjoy it!
Thank you for validating my one month wait for a custom Lenovo Loq 16
I've had my Legion 5i Pro 3070ti for some time now. I must say It's been running near perfect for me. It's been really good, not looking to upgrade it anytime soon.
U think slim 5 is good option? I can get one with 240hz and 500 nits screen rtx 4060 and ryzen 7 but does yours have coil whine and backlight bleed? And how is the fan noise
10:50 its going for 1200 -1300 right now on amazon
Legion laptops are top tiers. You can't go wrong with them. My legion 5 pro 3070 2021 variant is still kicking. Using it on editing and gaming 2 years with no issue
No backlight bleed?
this video is the holy grail of deals, my brother thanks you.
You caught me off-guard every time you joked about RGB lighting. My neighbours could hear me cacking myself XD
Jarrod, Thanks for the extremely detailed reviews. My Lenova LOQ 16 is arriving soon.
How's it so far? What spec fo you have? Do u reccomend it?
Thank you , for your Video. I wish we have someone like you with a laptop deal page here in Germany, because the Prices here are way different then yours.