Having worked with cows most of my life and worked in the conventional system of milking in a parlour to now have 2 robot milkers, i think there is always pros and cons to both methods. milking the cows you end up knowing them more and bonding with the cows in the heard. you also get chance to see / inspect if they have any problems with there teats, udder, feet or other. When the robots are new and everything is clean it looks good, however in a few years time the robots have gremlins and need lots of maintenance, like any machine. Staff, is about the same as you would be surprised how much work involved in keeping everything clean. one advantage of robot is normally (unless major problem) they should be running during the night and no need to have to wake up at 1am like i did for years. plus the robot has individual tubes from each unit / teat into its own sensor so can detect high cell counts or a problem, and will dump the milk if its not fit for the tank. cleans between each cow. Its not all glory, if i am honest from all the systems i have seen, I still think a rapid exit parallel with feeders is a good parlour to have if it had the technology of detecting the milk and self cleaning of the unit between each cow (if this is available) would be my preferred option. just see how friendly the mature cows are with me in my videos, this is because i have known them since they was born and milked them in the old parlour and we have a bonding, they trust me and i take good care of them. obviously all of them are super friendly and like me because i also look after / clean out all the heifers. like anything pros and cons to both systems. i just don't think you save much time or staff either way.
Very interesting! 👍 I wasn’t raised in a dairy family but I’ve always admired dairymen. Keeping up with and hopefully ahead of the “economy of scale” is always a good thing. And to people like Julian, you are a farmer! And, though I dont know you, Quite likely you’re a third or fourth generation farmer that likely started back when 100 cows could support two families.👍
I wonder what kind of deal they cut him to put in all these robots, he says he saves so much on labor, but he doesn't talk about what cost to maintain. Go back and ask him what he thinks about robots in a couple years.
@@deanpahl8591 5.22 in the youtube. I'm sure with buying 36 robots in one deal you get a nice price, als don't forget less m2 in compare to rotary with holdup pen. So i'm not sure you can compare that one to one. My robots cost against convential in Holland is about 1 eurocent higher, but we let lely do a lot maintenance, so there you could win in my situation and chemicals from lely or from CID is also a nice different, were i could win more.
@@JR-mv7uz it's just I have customers who have robots and they are having their problems, service, reliability, they still have the same amount of work and headaches, just in a different way.
I see two great hopes for the dairy industry. Robotics, and beef on dairy. Take that bottom half of your performers, and breed them to a good line of beef genetics. Take your top half and breed them to great milk genetics for your replacement heifers, and get a cash rush from selling others off as breeding stock. We’ve been lured away from stackable enterprises for decades. In my opinion, it’s been a huge mistake.
It saves your back and let you fokus on the animal itself instead of washing and udder handling for hours on end each day. It instant increase the amount of milk of each cow
Large installations of robots are uncommon but do exist. The robots are really intended as a saviour to the "small" farms, milking minimum of 50. More cows mean more robots, and once you reach a few hundred cows, there is no economy of scale with them versus the capacity of a large parallel or rotary parlor operated at all hours. The real reason, as he said, was the availability of labor, basically Mexican illegals. Once Trump clamped down on immigration, Wall or no Wall, labor supply vanished.
As someone reared on an irish dairy farm this is an abomination. Cows locked up like battery hens, compared to cows who can roam outside eating grass. That is why Irish butter and beef are so superior to this factory output.
In Canada, far more cow freedom and comfort with robots than than the old barns that have cows confined to tie-stalls all winter. Grass rarely grows when there Is a foot of snow for months at a time.
You're not wrong Brian, but this farmer is just being innovative. When autonomous tractors etc. gain traction all farmers will eventually become farm managers. If corporations don't just buy them out that is.
That is what farming has become, it's not like the old days anymore, there is so much compliance work, paper work etc now days. the top level decisions is where the money is made not standing in a dairy shed putting cups on.
@@JR-mv7uz oh my that’s such a long time lol stick your head back where it was and we can all just wait for universal basic income. Then I can gladly stay under my rock.
and what you want to say with that? The cows having in probably better then on a real small dairy, were her you can feed to what they need, having 24/7 people around it, special groups for cows. So what point you try to make?
People with a vague idea of what working means are what's wrong with the world. Nothing wrong in making the crap jobs nobody wants obsolete and earning more money in the process. Nature adapts to survive, to conserve or acquire energy. Humans aren't exempt from this. Money is a form of energy. Try living without energy, see how long you last. I see wasted privilege in your ignorant opinion.
Yes and you sound like a guy that’s out working earning a living lol. I’m a welder / cattle hauler/ yard hand on a cattle ranch meathead lol. I stand by my first comment.. and only lay when it’s with your women. Give your head a shake and think about the big picture before you comment. Sorry about getting childish and saying that about your women but it’s true. 🍻 cheers Mc Fly
Yes we probably should not have converted to better phone systems & eventually digital & smart phones either. Think of all of the abused operators & their jobs that were eliminated! We could still be turning a hand crank on a phone & waiting for an operator to connect us or waiting for our neighbor to get off of the party line (shared phone line) as when I was young. We could still be tethered to phones by cords if not for modernity! Joy! Lol!
Susan I think your missing the point ... but I figured I’d get an inbreed response or 2 when I posted an honest opinion about the downturn of the world! 🍻 vote Biden 2020 and prey!
And then there was my 18 cow herd with 2 single unit De Laval milking machines---- Fred
Great Video, I love the idea of Robots especially in the meduim to large scale dairies, thanks for sharing
Hello from Indiana. Glad this technology is helping you to bring in more income and less stress on the dairy cows.
Having worked with cows most of my life and worked in the conventional system of milking in a parlour to now have 2 robot milkers, i think there is always pros and cons to both methods.
milking the cows you end up knowing them more and bonding with the cows in the heard. you also get chance to see / inspect if they have any problems with there teats, udder, feet or other.
When the robots are new and everything is clean it looks good, however in a few years time the robots have gremlins and need lots of maintenance, like any machine.
Staff, is about the same as you would be surprised how much work involved in keeping everything clean.
one advantage of robot is normally (unless major problem) they should be running during the night and no need to have to wake up at 1am like i did for years. plus the robot has individual tubes from each unit / teat into its own sensor so can detect high cell counts or a problem, and will dump the milk if its not fit for the tank. cleans between each cow.
Its not all glory, if i am honest from all the systems i have seen, I still think a rapid exit parallel with feeders is a good parlour to have if it had the technology of detecting the milk and self cleaning of the unit between each cow (if this is available) would be my preferred option.
just see how friendly the mature cows are with me in my videos, this is because i have known them since they was born and milked them in the old parlour and we have a bonding, they trust me and i take good care of them.
obviously all of them are super friendly and like me because i also look after / clean out all the heifers.
like anything pros and cons to both systems. i just don't think you save much time or staff either way.
The maintenance cost clear they are a 20 year old system. Laybor cost is lower on a decent maintained robot.
Very interesting! 👍 I wasn’t raised in a dairy family but I’ve always admired dairymen.
Keeping up with and hopefully ahead of the “economy of scale” is always a good thing. And to people like Julian, you are a farmer! And, though I dont know you, Quite likely you’re a third or fourth generation farmer that likely started back when 100 cows could support two families.👍
What do u do with all the manure
Spread over the fields to build up soil that grow food for the cows to eat. Been done for thousands of years. Where does YOUR personal manure go?
I tuned into to see a robot milker in action not just talk about them!
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I wonder what kind of deal they cut him to put in all these robots, he says he saves so much on labor, but he doesn't talk about what cost to maintain. Go back and ask him what he thinks about robots in a couple years.
Numbers are in the video
@@brettkavanaugh9448 sorry I must have missed them.
@@brettkavanaugh9448 watched video again, did not mention cost of robots to install, that would influence my decision.
@@deanpahl8591 5.22 in the youtube. I'm sure with buying 36 robots in one deal you get a nice price, als don't forget less m2 in compare to rotary with holdup pen. So i'm not sure you can compare that one to one. My robots cost against convential in Holland is about 1 eurocent higher, but we let lely do a lot maintenance, so there you could win in my situation and chemicals from lely or from CID is also a nice different, were i could win more.
@@JR-mv7uz it's just I have customers who have robots and they are having their problems, service, reliability, they still have the same amount of work and headaches, just in a different way.
How many people you want for all the farm jobs like feeding cleaning ?
With that many robots, if one (or two or three) break down, not much of a big deal versus a single unit on a small farm going down.
Do you need a worker/ helper?
Wait 5 years when those parts are obsolete and you have to update the software every year?
How many work hours would have been saved by then. Best cost over time is what matters even if you'd had to buy a new robot every 5 years.
About 10-15 years they usually last
we have had robots for 25 years, our current robots are 11 years old, service is top notch
do the robots drink any milk,no do they buy anything, no they are just machines
wont get to see robots do anything
That is a great example of #agbioscience innovation in Indiana!
The innovation is from holland ;) There is not robot developed by US guys, maybe the boumatic but......
I see two great hopes for the dairy industry. Robotics, and beef on dairy. Take that bottom half of your performers, and breed them to a good line of beef genetics. Take your top half and breed them to great milk genetics for your replacement heifers, and get a cash rush from selling others off as breeding stock.
We’ve been lured away from stackable enterprises for decades. In my opinion, it’s been a huge mistake.
What's next, robots that slaughter cows at the right time and place, so as not to bother the cow much during the process?
Sounds like a good idea, you should try patent that before some else beats you to it.
@@nickmarriott4520 Too late.
So you got rid of the labors...
They mean Trump kicked out the laborers.
Sucks. Robots deprive breathing living humans to a honest days work. I dont care how efficient it is
It saves your back and let you fokus on the animal itself instead of washing and udder handling for hours on end each day.
It instant increase the amount of milk of each cow
Plus go find someone to milk cows. And don't say pay more already pay more then other industries for people who do similar work.
Large installations of robots are uncommon but do exist. The robots are really intended as a saviour to the "small" farms, milking minimum of 50. More cows mean more robots, and once you reach a few hundred cows, there is no economy of scale with them versus the capacity of a large parallel or rotary parlor operated at all hours. The real reason, as he said, was the availability of labor, basically Mexican illegals. Once Trump clamped down on immigration, Wall or no Wall, labor supply vanished.
As someone reared on an irish dairy farm this is an abomination.
Cows locked up like battery hens, compared to cows who can roam outside eating grass. That is why Irish butter and beef are so superior to this factory output.
In Canada, far more cow freedom and comfort with robots than than the old barns that have cows confined to tie-stalls all winter. Grass rarely grows when there Is a foot of snow for months at a time.
We were milking the cows, ahh no you weren't your workers were milking the cows you sit behind a desk he's a farm manager not a farmer any more!!
Lmao shutup quit hating cuz he makes money owning his daddys old farm🤣
You're not wrong Brian, but this farmer is just being innovative.
When autonomous tractors etc. gain traction all farmers will eventually become farm managers. If corporations don't just buy them out that is.
That is what farming has become, it's not like the old days anymore, there is so much compliance work, paper work etc now days. the top level decisions is where the money is made not standing in a dairy shed putting cups on.
You could say that about the generation before his because they used a tractor instead of using hand tools. It's innovation and efficiency
WHO HAS THE BIGGEST BALLS!!!!!
OH! The humanity of it.
Old school.
I hope those robots like milk because who is going to buy the milk. These efficiency gains are short term and will fail in the end.
25 years milkrobots are on the market, you living under a stone?
@@JR-mv7uz oh my that’s such a long time lol stick your head back where it was and we can all just wait for universal basic income. Then I can gladly stay under my rock.
Milk,the new coal.
Drink Soy milk and forget the cow.
How long have you been pretending to be a female?
Factory farm.
call it what you want but i bet you’d hate having to milk your own cows by hand
and what you want to say with that? The cows having in probably better then on a real small dairy, were her you can feed to what they need, having 24/7 people around it, special groups for cows. So what point you try to make?
With the automated feeding system from lely it looks like it.
Bud there is still human intervention.
The places that create "fake beef" and "fake milk" are straight-out factories, not farms.
@@haweater1555 in these farms the farmer has more time left to pay attention to his cattle.
Lol no wonder theirs no jobs. Perfect example of it being all about the money. This guy being interviewed is what’s wrong with the world
People with a vague idea of what working means are what's wrong with the world. Nothing wrong in making the crap jobs nobody wants obsolete and earning more money in the process. Nature adapts to survive, to conserve or acquire energy. Humans aren't exempt from this. Money is a form of energy. Try living without energy, see how long you last. I see wasted privilege in your ignorant opinion.
Yes and you sound like a guy that’s out working earning a living lol. I’m a welder / cattle hauler/ yard hand on a cattle ranch meathead lol. I stand by my first comment.. and only lay when it’s with your women. Give your head a shake and think about the big picture before you comment. Sorry about getting childish and saying that about your women but it’s true. 🍻 cheers Mc Fly
Yes we probably should not have converted to better phone systems & eventually digital & smart phones either. Think of all of the abused operators & their jobs that were eliminated! We could still be turning a hand crank on a phone & waiting for an operator to connect us or waiting for our neighbor to get off of the party line (shared phone line) as when I was young. We could still be tethered to phones by cords if not for modernity! Joy! Lol!
Susan I think your missing the point ... but I figured I’d get an inbreed response or 2 when I posted an honest opinion about the downturn of the world! 🍻 vote Biden 2020 and prey!
@@jonnydoom8653 Prey on you they will
Do you need a worker/ helper?