But unfortunately the more Sam makes vids about Dave the more Sam becomes boring and resentful, like Dave :( Also unfortunately, speaking meta, Sam and Dave are way more alike than different: Both have for profit companies that survive based on folks with similar political identities who support their type of signaling. Both make grand public displays of commitment to their type/brand of ideoletry which biologically binds them into the spoken position; independent of the truth. **Both think they are right.** Neither of these foes has "truth" as their Telos. The only telos around these parts seems to be that "they" (the other side) are wrong. Both have plenty of reinforcement of their sacred belief from the group. In Sam case, he literally has someone off camera throwing out supportive, in-group signals. Perhaps this is what Dave needs, his producer off camera feeding him the in-group narrative? It's like church all over again: the narrative constantly needing to be reinforced! (I predict) neither have a process/method of determining knowledge that would lead them to the truth of the (any) matter. And, even if such a method was discovered, they both are binded/blinded by the benefits of their particular group. In Sam's and Dave's case specifically, they both are making profit from said ideoletries. Thus, everything must be filtered by that axiom. Inevitably unwilling to be wrong. After all, they now have so much to loose. Therefore, all subsequent thoughts that may contradict said telos will be rationalized away as heresy. Therein starts these flame wars, these personal attacks at the others integrity. But no need, really. They both have extremely low integrity as long as they are willingly compromising themselves with money. *No shilling even required!* Just biology coupled with a lack of thinking tools. What we have is two decent men falling for the traps of religious idolatry. Except they may not see it this way because they are in the midst of creating a new religion, not adjoining to an old one which is way this could be overlooked. Who would have known Evolution would shed the light identitarian politics? \s
Actually, why wont sam pick on someone his own intellectual size. Seriously. He needs to call out Sam Harris for a debate, not Rave Dubin Also, Why is the only person saying "IDW" is Sam Seder? Sam Harris isn't going around calling himself that. Neither is Peterson or Brett Weinstein. Like, it was a thing they said, not a label they gave themselves.
I liked him back around when he left TYT. He was the only reason I still watched them because he would go against the bullshit that they would spit. Then I watched his show (which I figured wouldn't succeed) and saw that the reason he was so critical of their shit was because he wanted to spin his own bull for the right-wing.
Dave claims he's just being neutral when he brings on guests to discuss "ideas", but he periodically chimes in to co-sign some of their "ideas." He also has a habit of throwing out words of praise and encouragement to his guests like, "You're such a great thinker", or referring to them as "honest actors" and "intellectually objective", which gives credence to the ideas Dave didn't formally co-sign. If he's not going to challenge them, he can't praise them either, otherwise it appears that he's being sympathetic towards the ideology of his guests.
He could and probably should do that, but that would go against his spiel being about how the left is the most terrible thing ever and the right is a-okay.
i just watched his live stream melt down where he walks around outside crying about people making fun of him when the entire idw anti-left brigade made a career from making fun of people online
@@jeffpro8 They always post the full show on TH-cam. Click on this title: It starts at 1:34 Bottle of Lies: The Inside Story of the Generic Drug Boom w/ Katherine Eban - MR Live - 5/29/19
Because of these right wing wierdows, I keep having to add to my dictionary. “white ethno state", "white nationalist", and now “White Identitarian” ?? Thanks alot Lauren Southern! Just couldn’t be satisfied with “white nationalist”. Really frustrating
@@ianbridge3270 Yes. Talking about Bill Maher I believe. He meant to say that democrats were surrounding Maher as vultures for something he said or some shit like that, but he used the opposite expression. It was a brain fart (which is not unusual in Dave's case)
Dave is on of the most stubborn and dogey people I've ever seen on the web refusing to debate anyone challenging him and his ideas just because someone made a video about him calling him stupid. He needs to get over that already and start engaging like a real intellectual!
"Because the IDW coalesces around dissent from modern cultural orthodoxies, its discourse often addresses topics surrounded by taboos... innate differences in cognitive skills and behavioral traits, particularly between different ethnic or racial groups... Those are, of course, entirely legitimate questions." Cathy Young is fine with the phrenology thing but only when the RESPECTABLE people are holding the calipers
Mike Cernovich was also brought to trial for rape, but was able to plea it down to community service and get his record expunged. This despite the fact that he's openly bragged about how you can get away with raping women by publicly shaming them AND how he personally has gotten away with it. This includes having forced women to touch him, despite his own admission that they said no.
Is it really that hard to be a rightwing grifter? If Dave had just kept his mouth shut about his enthusiasm for discussing ideas, he might've skated by without much problem.
'Now, I haven't read it...' Thanks for that. You know it always helps when you have read something before setting up a broadcast and talking about it. This piece is a series of 'err, and errrrr, now where is it....what's the name here....err....and umm..'
Actually, I watched an old Dave Rubin video with Ben Shapiro on. He got Shapiro to discuss his ideas and have a conversation. I had to slow down the speed to .75x which was perfect. I had to say even if was rather empathetic, it was at least not an angry exchange. Kinda refreshing. Ben Shapiro is definitely not my flavour, but allowing him to reveal himself was great for me because I don’t watch people like him. Your critique may be justified, but since I’m so new to all this, “I’m Left, I’m more Left, I’m PC, I’m Centre, I’m not Alt Right, but you call me that”. Kinda too many labels.
Racists are inherently illogical. They will always make exceptions and excuses for the certain "others" that they like. Same thing happened with slave owners and their favorite slaves, or sexists and their wives. The hate is still there, but they have to engage in mental gymnastics when confronted with the human reality of the people they demonize.
A lot of people don't understand how quillette works, so let me break it down, it allows anyone to publish, provided that what you've written is well researched and isn't factually incorrect and where claims are made without consensus (for example, making claims about race and IQ) that you add caveats to them, there's nothing stopping Sam or Michael, for example, from writing their own quillette piece
Okay but water fluoridation is non-consensual medication of the water supply that affects multiple organs in the body not just teeth, let's just get that straight
Videos like this are why I love Sam Seder. Well, that and the 'we tortured the elves' comment he made on one of those 'WaR oN cHrIsTmAs' interviews they do every December a few years back. XD
Why does he call it the “battle” of ideas when he just swallows every bullshit idea someone feeds him with no fight back? That’s a one-sided battle. Fuck I don’t know if I’d call it a battle. Seems like it would be prudent to call it consensual instead. Most battles aren’t consensual. They sorta just happen as a result of one entity defending against the marching of another, oftentimes with one entity (either or) having valid reason for its action and/or wishing not to battle. “The consensual sucking and swallowing of ideas.” The Rave Dubin show concept.
I saw a group discussion which included Rubin where he discussed if women have agency, that they are animals like cows or dogs and incapable of thought or reason thus should not be allowed to make decisions. Hated the guy ever since.
Dave Rubin believes in the Flea Market principles. The flea market of ideas! Get your idea there, it’s $5 but the guy at the booth will give you 3 ideas for 10$ if you haggle a bit.
Does Sam ever prepare for this stuff? Even though I am a fan, he often comes across as the kid in school who didn't do the reading and is trying desperately to skim through the book to find the question that the teacher is asking about.
All these Dave Rubin dunking videos by Sam and crew...
straight into my veins.
My veins are in cardiac arrest mode by taking in so many high level, critical Rubin dunkings.
I'm having heart attack from taking in all these Rubin sandwiches.
But unfortunately the more Sam makes vids about Dave the more Sam becomes boring and resentful, like Dave :(
Also unfortunately, speaking meta, Sam and Dave are way more alike than different: Both have for profit companies that survive based on folks with similar political identities who support their type of signaling. Both make grand public displays of commitment to their type/brand of ideoletry which biologically binds them into the spoken position; independent of the truth. **Both think they are right.** Neither of these foes has "truth" as their Telos. The only telos around these parts seems to be that "they" (the other side) are wrong. Both have plenty of reinforcement of their sacred belief from the group. In Sam case, he literally has someone off camera throwing out supportive, in-group signals. Perhaps this is what Dave needs, his producer off camera feeding him the in-group narrative? It's like church all over again: the narrative constantly needing to be reinforced!
(I predict) neither have a process/method of determining knowledge that would lead them to the truth of the (any) matter. And, even if such a method was discovered, they both are binded/blinded by the benefits of their particular group. In Sam's and Dave's case specifically, they both are making profit from said ideoletries. Thus, everything must be filtered by that axiom. Inevitably unwilling to be wrong. After all, they now have so much to loose. Therefore, all subsequent thoughts that may contradict said telos will be rationalized away as heresy. Therein starts these flame wars, these personal attacks at the others integrity.
But no need, really. They both have extremely low integrity as long as they are willingly compromising themselves with money. *No shilling even required!* Just biology coupled with a lack of thinking tools.
What we have is two decent men falling for the traps of religious idolatry. Except they may not see it this way because they are in the midst of creating a new religion, not adjoining to an old one which is way this could be overlooked.
Who would have known Evolution would shed the light identitarian politics? \s
Actually, why wont sam pick on someone his own intellectual size. Seriously. He needs to call out Sam Harris for a debate, not Rave Dubin
Also, Why is the only person saying "IDW" is Sam Seder? Sam Harris isn't going around calling himself that. Neither is Peterson or Brett Weinstein. Like, it was a thing they said, not a label they gave themselves.
@@derrickswinney2297 Intellectual dark web is used by secular talk, cult of dusty and a few others besides sam.
These Rave Dubin videos are the best kind of bullying
MrGpt2010 you’re right, it’s just a battle of ideas!
Its a battle of ideas bro what are you saying
I feel like “bullying” implies it’s unwarranted
I wouldn't say bullying, but more like exposure of a drifter.
he blocked me on twitter for saying he takes criticism like a 4 year old. looks like i was right lmao
He blocked me for asking him when he’s going have a leftist on his show
Blocked for saying “debate S@m Seder!”
He blocked me for existing.
And he claims to be anti censorship. Doesn't Dave get that we want to discuss IDEEEEAS?!
blocked me as well
Dave Rubin is the Tim Pool of Tucker Carlsons
This comment is the Barr proposal of Alex Jones inspired fake news. Ben Shapiro claims its Jordan Petersons fault
I know exactly what you mean.
I don't know why that makes sense but it does..
this makes way more sense than it has any right to
my gawd.....
I can't help but gobble up any and all videos with Dave Rubin in the headline of a Majority Report video.
It's like sweet nectar.
When the fail hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's schadenfreude.
Okay, I've never really liked Dave...but this shit is hilarious.
I liked him back around when he left TYT. He was the only reason I still watched them because he would go against the bullshit that they would spit. Then I watched his show (which I figured wouldn't succeed) and saw that the reason he was so critical of their shit was because he wanted to spin his own bull for the right-wing.
Leonardo Davinci lols I don’t find his jokes funny at all lol.
Olya Karnes-Lotterhos Lul
Dave claims he's just being neutral when he brings on guests to discuss "ideas", but he periodically chimes in to co-sign some of their "ideas." He also has a habit of throwing out words of praise and encouragement to his guests like, "You're such a great thinker", or referring to them as "honest actors" and "intellectually objective", which gives credence to the ideas Dave didn't formally co-sign. If he's not going to challenge them, he can't praise them either, otherwise it appears that he's being sympathetic towards the ideology of his guests.
Neutrality in the alt-right? lol. Even incels can't not have a discussion without racist identitarian rhetoric slipping in.
He could and probably should do that, but that would go against his spiel being about how the left is the most terrible thing ever and the right is a-okay.
Excuse me, you misspelled his name in the title. It’s Rave Dubin.
Gave Cubin....
Save nubin
@@leadfarmer9396 save dubin 🥺
I want to feel sympathy but then I remember bowlsarnro.
Bowl of Sarno
Bowels of sado
*Bolsawnaro
How can Rubin hide from Sam so blatantly and still pretend like he's the arbiter of truth and discussion? It's actually pathetic.
i just watched his live stream melt down where he walks around outside crying about people making fun of him when the entire idw anti-left brigade made a career from making fun of people online
They covered it on today's show. It's really funny, but they won't post it today, I think.
I want to see the live stream but it looks like they haven't posted it yet.
@@jeffpro8 They always post the full show on TH-cam.
Click on this title: It starts at 1:34
Bottle of Lies: The Inside Story of the Generic Drug Boom w/ Katherine Eban - MR Live - 5/29/19
As always, the online far-right can dish it but they can't take it.
@@sandboxplayerz667 Thank you!
Our weekly dosis of dunking Rave Dubin
Dose*
Still fun. :)
@@aralornwolf3140 Not in Greek. :)
Edit: For clarification, in Greek, it's actually "dosi" or "δοση".
@@RandroidPrime ,
Ah... I don't know Greek. Thank you for pointing that out. I thought the person messed up.
Rave Dubbin’ is the name of my new techno track that’s dropping on SoundCloud.
Poor Dave, the grift is up.
I think I prefer Intellectually Dishonest Web.
Intellectual dork web
Intellectual Derp Web
@@soumilroy It's hard for me to imagine a world where Jordan Peterson doesn't know how full of shit he is deep down.
Other video dunking on Dave "I just want to talk about ideas" Rubin. 👍
Aww, and all the poor guy wants is to talk about ideas :(
200 year old ideas I'm sure.
The Rubin way. 😂
High level ideas at that.
Ideas his brain is still recovering from
Because of these right wing wierdows, I keep having to add to my dictionary. “white ethno state", "white nationalist", and now “White Identitarian” ?? Thanks alot Lauren Southern! Just couldn’t be satisfied with “white nationalist”. Really frustrating
Just mark them all as fucking racists. Is easier.
@@rasjeff1 LOL
I guess bigot was just too loaded a term?
@@angelairidescenceartglass6289 how else will they get disaffected idiots to join their cause if they don't try to obfuscate what they really are?
This Rave Dubin bashing gets funnier by the day! I hope his brain recovers from taking in all those high level ideas soon lmfao
I think IDW's best-before date may be rapidly approaching. Michael had better get his book out fast.
Lord, I hope so
Which members are you referring to? Dave Rubin and Eric & Bret Weinstein do not belong in the same sentence.
Why is no one talking about IDW on IDW crime?
6:11
"can everyone just go away for a minute [waves hands apart] "I wanna talk to Dave alone"
lol
@Adam A The definite highlight of the video😂
Rave Dubin is a regular smash on this show
love it
that BOOBIN sound clip where he takes so many ideas never gets old lol
I love these videos, just keep going until he comes on the show or you go on rubin report.
troper nebur
this is so sad guys can we have a battle of ideals
@MrGpt2010 threw out my back trying to reach this high level idea
I was in the middle of googling "IDW", thinking it was some agency or something, when I figured it out.
We truly live in a society.
I only come to The Majority Report for the Rubin bashing. Love it.
That audio clip of Rubin saying that his brain is in recovery mode from taking in so many "high level ideas" is fucking gold.
I was thinking IDW like the comics, heh.
Nice "circling the wagons"-reference, I had forgotten that particular bit of stupidity.
I don't remember that, did Rubin use the phrase incorrectly or something?
@@ianbridge3270 Yes. Talking about Bill Maher I believe. He meant to say that democrats were surrounding Maher as vultures for something he said or some shit like that, but he used the opposite expression. It was a brain fart (which is not unusual in Dave's case)
@@rasjeff1 Lol he really is not that bright. Thanks for cluing me in.
Sam I swear to god if you say "uhhh" one more time..... im gonna join the IDW.
"IdEaS"
- dubin
Rubin would be so much more successful if he just admitted he's alt right.
No, posing as a liberal is integral to the grift.
i don’t know if that’s fair. joe rogan and sam harris make a killing by pretending to be liberals
Dave is on of the most stubborn and dogey people I've ever seen on the web refusing to debate anyone challenging him and his ideas just because someone made a video about him calling him stupid. He needs to get over that already and start engaging like a real intellectual!
If he won’t go on your show you should let it be his show for a day and then you can appear on it as a guest so he has a more favorable power dynamic
"Because the IDW coalesces around dissent from modern cultural orthodoxies, its discourse often addresses topics surrounded by taboos... innate differences in cognitive skills and behavioral traits, particularly between different ethnic or racial groups... Those are, of course, entirely legitimate questions."
Cathy Young is fine with the phrenology thing but only when the RESPECTABLE people are holding the calipers
high level important ideas
The homage to circling the wagons was delicious 🤣 🤣 🤣
LOL! "I'd hate to see that" smiles slowly 7:30.
All these videos of you guys making Rave Dubin eat shit are oddly cathartic for me.
Mike Cernovich was also brought to trial for rape, but was able to plea it down to community service and get his record expunged. This despite the fact that he's openly bragged about how you can get away with raping women by publicly shaming them AND how he personally has gotten away with it. This includes having forced women to touch him, despite his own admission that they said no.
I wondered what IDW comics had to do with Dave Rubin. 🤦🏻♂️ Lol. I was way off.
I never get tired on Rubin dunking. I know it's getting very very old, but I just can't stop enjoying it.
Stephan Molineux aka Col. Klink "I am not a Nazi, I am a practical realist." People like him shouldn't be normalised in any way.
"intellectual dark web" = alt right echo chamber
"Intellectual" is a bit of a stretch.
Is it really that hard to be a rightwing grifter? If Dave had just kept his mouth shut about his enthusiasm for discussing ideas, he might've skated by without much problem.
'Now, I haven't read it...'
Thanks for that. You know it always helps when you have read something before setting up a broadcast and talking about it.
This piece is a series of 'err, and errrrr, now where is it....what's the name here....err....and umm..'
Rubin's circling the wagons down the drain.
"Hmm I wonder what this video is going to be abou -
"LobsterCuck"
Actually, I watched an old Dave Rubin video with Ben Shapiro on. He got Shapiro to discuss his ideas and have a conversation. I had to slow down the speed to .75x which was perfect. I had to say even if was rather empathetic, it was at least not an angry exchange. Kinda refreshing. Ben Shapiro is definitely not my flavour, but allowing him to reveal himself was great for me because I don’t watch people like him. Your critique may be justified, but since I’m so new to all this, “I’m Left, I’m more Left, I’m PC, I’m Centre, I’m not Alt Right, but you call me that”. Kinda too many labels.
Quillette is opinion-based, varied and usually honest, whatever your persuasion. Dave isn’t.
Vince Carter level of dunking on Dave Rubin.
Dying to see Dave Rubin's Newscenter!
Just let Yelp handle it. - Dubin
Idz. Aboud. Dee. Ideaz.
The IDW is eating itself! 😆
Just imagine what an introductory community college class would do to his brain.
In the grand tradition of My Dinner With Andre, Sam Seder's, My Dinner With Dubin.
Probably the first time I've heard "circling the wagons" used correctly lol
I really want to see you record you 2 getting coffee. It'll be like Sienfeld's show.
"Seek first to understand, then to be understood"
-Stephen Covey
My brain’s literally haemorrhaging from all these high level ideas.
Hearing Sam say "lobster cuck" is the highlight of my year
Dave Rubin would make a good muppet. Wide mouth, no lips.
ailblentyn And easily manipulated to get him to say whatever you’d like!
"The Dave Rubin Report w/ Sam Seder" LMAO
competition kicking in everywhere
Could have sworn Lauren Southern had a thing for BBC. Not sure why she’s running with the extreme right.
She's a classic repressed white girl.
Racists are inherently illogical. They will always make exceptions and excuses for the certain "others" that they like. Same thing happened with slave owners and their favorite slaves, or sexists and their wives. The hate is still there, but they have to engage in mental gymnastics when confronted with the human reality of the people they demonize.
A lot of people don't understand how quillette works, so let me break it down, it allows anyone to publish, provided that what you've written is well researched and isn't factually incorrect and where claims are made without consensus (for example, making claims about race and IQ) that you add caveats to them, there's nothing stopping Sam or Michael, for example, from writing their own quillette piece
I find myself rewatching these dunking on Dave Rubin videos, they are endlessly entertaining.
Oops..... I mean Rave Dubin. Forgive me.
@@Weedy_McWeedy I think you mean Nave Rubid.
I saw someone rearrange the letters of his name to Naive Drub. It's a keeper. 💯😂
I'm just here for the ideas.
Okay but water fluoridation is non-consensual medication of the water supply that affects multiple organs in the body not just teeth, let's just get that straight
Videos like this are why I love Sam Seder. Well, that and the 'we tortured the elves' comment he made on one of those 'WaR oN cHrIsTmAs' interviews they do every December a few years back. XD
I'm guessing when you go for coffee you'd go Dutch? 😂😂😂
Why does he call it the “battle” of ideas when he just swallows every bullshit idea someone feeds him with no fight back? That’s a one-sided battle. Fuck I don’t know if I’d call it a battle. Seems like it would be prudent to call it consensual instead. Most battles aren’t consensual. They sorta just happen as a result of one entity defending against the marching of another, oftentimes with one entity (either or) having valid reason for its action and/or wishing not to battle. “The consensual sucking and swallowing of ideas.” The Rave Dubin show concept.
Subbed, it would be cool to sort it out on either show. I respect that.
Sorry for my ignorant question but can someone tell me what IDW means? Thank you
Intellectual dark web
Intellectual Dark Web, a term used by a NYT writer for Jorden Peterson, Joe Rogan, Sam Harris, Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin, etc.
Ineffectual Dork Weebos
Intellectual dark web lol
Ignorant Daft Weebs 😄 or maybe Independent Donor Wages. Or perhaps it's what Daves boyfriend says at the end of a hard days shilling "I Don't Wanna" 😃
I just tweeted Dave Rubin that Sam Seder is hiding under his bed while he sleeps at night. I was immediately blocked. lol Least now he knows.
Dave Rubin's ravings are dubious at best
Mike Sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssscernovich LMAO
Rave Dubin Panics...
There, fixed your title for you.
Wtf is an idw?
I started reading the comments to find that out..And then Sam said it Intellectual Dark Web. 🙂
That tweet was peak savage.
Does anyone else feel a headache coming on? Man it must be from all the high level important ideas the majority report was discussing.
Any other topics ?
Do I need TOR to tune in to the IDW?
Well, that tweet and remark from Sam felt genuine. If only he could be that cordial other times.
I saw a group discussion which included Rubin where he discussed if women have agency, that they are animals like cows or dogs and incapable of thought or reason thus should not be allowed to make decisions. Hated the guy ever since.
Ok Sam stop bulling this silly ass kid. 😢 We need Brooks back to defend him.
Masterpiece trolling right there Sam 👏👏👏👏 outstanding
Nothing wrong with identitarianism. If you call yourself a progressive and take efforts to adhere to progressive values, you are an identitarian.
Identititarian? That's a word?
Yeah, I've seen it around in the racist side of pagan circles.
Yeah it's white supremacist-speak for white supremacist.
Does IDW stand for intellectually dishonest whites?
Intellectually Deceptive Web
"All these high-level ideas". What a joker.
He blocked me out Twitter a long time ago. I can't see what's happening.
5:05 i nearly did a spit take on jamie's pedophilia/ephebophilia joke.
Dave Rubin believes in the Flea Market principles.
The flea market of ideas!
Get your idea there, it’s $5 but the guy at the booth will give you 3 ideas for 10$ if you haggle a bit.
Does Sam ever prepare for this stuff? Even though I am a fan, he often comes across as the kid in school who didn't do the reading and is trying desperately to skim through the book to find the question that the teacher is asking about.
How was he ever on TYT??!?