Something you'll like about the Switch remake of Advance Wars, is not only does Flak have a pretty good remixed theme (one that shits all over the DS version), and not only do their themes change during their attack phases (getting quieter with marching drums) and when they pop their powers (picking up in tempo), but their themes don't "reset" each turn: it's like someone hits pause on their soundtrack when their turn ends, and it picks right up from there next turn.
Yeah you feel intimidated right off the bat and like he's hiding something more when you first meet him... then realize he's a jobber halfway through the campaign lol
I always thought that Flak should've played like Grimm does in Dual strike. A slight boost to power at the cost of poor defense seems more appropriate for a guy like flak than a damage roulette. Although it is very funny when a strategy suddenly gets derailed because he killed a Md. Tank with a recon or some nonsense like that.
I mean in all fairness he IS the first black hole CO so he should be the weakest (and making him AW1 sturm would be a bit much ythink?). Also in line with his name, flak cannons aren't exactly known for their accuracy, since they're main purpose is "i don't have to aim if I just vomit a million projectiles at the other guy right?" and that unpredictability is reflected in flak's random damage rolls. Also sorry for necroing this I just had to point it out
Flak's base skill should focus on high firepower (120-130%, but only with direct-fire units - indirects with this buff would be nuts) while having horrendous counterstrike damage (perhaps between a 30-40% penalty). It would encourage players who use him to be as aggressive as possible, which is quite befitting for his aggressive and "smash first, think later" attitude.
I do love how flaks theme is so brutish and out of control, it constantly changes and is madly erratic. It fits his impulsive, aggressive and thoughtless strategy and personality greatly. Also mirroring his erratic day to day and power where you just throw troops at the enemy and hope you land a big hit.
Flak was amung the best out of the Black Hole CO's, simply cause of his response to everything. First meeting Sami and Nell: "Two women CO's. Good Country, Must have!" to first spotting Max "Hey look, a Gorellia!". Flak is basically summerising the "Firepower over Brains" phrase :P
Hawkecrail What if he made them to where the shot range 2 or three missiles? What if he was hinting towards his super evil secret scheme that he totally came up with without Lash or anyone else.
Jared Harrelson Flak has indirect bombers. bombers are counterparts to battleships. Battleships ncould move and fire in DoR. Flak is caulder and Andy is brenner with sonja being lin
This is a theme that I always underestimated due to only really hearing the beginning in the campaign but damn this is good. Also to answer the age old question, he threw that battleship.
Maybe when Hawke was trying to find someone to lead the assault on Orange Star, Flak was all he could find amidst a slew of generic no name soldiers with no discernible skills.
I always enjoyed fighting against Flak, he was one of the few CO's in the game that felt fair even when using his powers and was even fun to play as, sure sometimes your troops did little damage to something they should well of beaten, but other times (mainly with the super power) that group of small tanks could suddenly rip a neo tank unit to pieces, fun risk vs reward system!
Whenever you think about how Andy doesn't know what units to use to Capture with, what an airport is, or what a continent is, remember that there's always someone who's even more of an idiot. Case in point, Flak can't even use a simple microphone, even though all you technically have to do is speak into it after it's set up. Although in his defense, apparently, he knows how to get Naval Units, such as Battleships into lakes with no ports...Granted I like to think that that would be due to unnatural human strength.
Honestly this guy needs some love. Hopefully they buff him even if it's just a little bit in the remake. He's been concidered the worst CO on both advance wars 2 and DS its just sad.
@@MrSergore Or they could make it were good luck and bad luck don't cancel each other out and it's just one giant roll. The reason why he's so bad is cause the game rolls for good luck first then it rolls for bad luck and takes that away from the good luck. Flak has a value of 20/15 if I remember, so most of the time you're rolling around 0% so he's actually more average than even Andy cause even he has 10% good luck. It's even funnier when you realize it applies to his powers as well Jugger is Flak done somewhat right cause he has a bigger range meaning you're actually likely to see some kind of effect instead of your rolls virtually canceling each other out. Sonja is in the same boat too as Flak but her luck can completely cancel each other out but she has other day-to-day powers to make up for it
Because of how luck works his super power averages out to 20% increases which is pathetic for a super. Like nell is a straight upgrade, Any other CO even andy has a better CO and super power. I would suggest giving him a non luck characteristic like flak using flaks. Or the meme indirect bombers.
I like the way Advance Wars Returns reworked him. Passive: +10% Attack -50% Counterattack Brute Force: +60% Attack Barbaric Blow: +100% Attack -100% Counterattack -10% Defense All out brawl but unlike Grimm, isn't frail at all.
@@Nitosa Nell is a straight upgrade in Black hole rising. while in Dual Strike his luck is actually better then Nell... unless it gets cancelled by his bad luck.
Is it just me or does Flak look like The Engineer and The Heavy from TF2 fused together. (I'm just imagining them doing the fusion dance from DBZ, then they just turn into Flak)
@@hombrerandom1431 Soldier already has a helmet like that. Besides, Medic wouldn't be part of the fusion because that implies that Flak is actually smart.
I swear that any AI that played as Flak immediately breaks and starts doing tank loop-dee-loops when I play. I don't know why, and I'm seriously not joking; it actually freaking happens. While I'm engaging half of his force in one area, his tanks in another area just start driving in circles.
"You hear the beggining" Meh, this sounds mediocre. "The song starts picking up" Hmmm, this is actually better than I expected. "The music goes loud and faster, everything increases dramatically" HOLY SHIT. :O
This and Adder's theme did something I wished all the BH themes did. Crank up the menace all the way to 11. When I hear this theme I think one word: MENACE.
Andy: „Hey, Nell. We‘re fighting the Black Hole Army, right?“ Nell: „Yes. However, it isn’t Sturm we’re facing. It looks like another CO. I get the impression that whoever it is just likes to smash things.“
Hey buddy. I'm a destructioneer. That means I solve Problems... Not problems like "how do I build a Bridge" or "what's the better building material, glass or Concrete" because that would fall within the purviews of Engineering. I solve Practical Problems! Like, What if some mean mother-hubbard wants to shoot me in the ass and overtake my continent? The answer? Fortify my troops. And if that don't work? Fortify MORE troops! Like this little-old quad-tank here; Built by me, Deployed by me, and you best hope, Not defending a city when I'm using my superpower. Yes, I think Flak looks like the Engineer from TF2
Never played TF2, but now that you mention it, he does kinda look like the Engineer. Huge chin and goggles. From that quote, he sounds like Flak if he had some of Lash's brains.
His portrait while in-game looks like the engineer's broad face and wearing red goggles, so I kinda thought that too. It's definitely the helmet and goggles that does it.
actually i agree with you. and for those who don't understand what he's referring to, FLAK was the name for an anti aircraft gun used by german during WW2 i believe, which now that i mention it seems to be a clever reference on the part of the devs since I think I read somewere black hole in these games was supposed to be loosely based on nazi germany.
Basically from what i heard of from flak is that every low and crappy unit can somehow be reliable as high level units..... From infantry can take on md tanks with ease While the high level unit however will felt crappy offensive nerf... What kind of upside down i have been lookin here....
As much as people hate flak, (or should I say give him flack), I actually like playing as him. His music is good and he can be very cost efficient and devastating if you get his co or super co up and running, even to the point where attacking tanks with basic infantry is recommended. Plus, you gotta admit, he had great lines in he campaign
I'd buy it for the updated soundtrack if they used real instruments. I always wanted to hear a Benny Goodman-esque big band rendition of Sensei's theme.
And this also shows you why not to touch Sasha... if he finds out you touched it, he gets so pissed he tried to join with an evil army attempting to take over the wrld
I don't really think that Flak really is a bad CO - probably worse than most other COs in the game, but at least he isn't completely overpowered. He's a bit like the Green Earth COs - his day2day-power isn't very good, but if you play a bit with his COP or SCOP and manage to time their use right, he might turn out to be a beast on the battlefield. Or not. It's up to IntSys RNG, so basically everything could happen.
My problem with Flak is that his powers are so unreliable. Other co's, you get what you get, but Flak has a chance of fucking up his attacks which makes him a wild cannon.
Executive Sonda That's true, and that's why Flak is considered one of the worst COs. But I think Flaks random attacks are also something that makes matches with him really enjoyable (at least in AW2, not in DS where every CO has +10 luck without any downsides...). He might get his "Flak-attacks" and completely demolish units he usually couldn't touch, but still has the risk to fuck up matchups that would have been save for any other CO. It's just more satisfying killing a Md tank using infantry with Flak cause you know you took a risk and the odds were in your favour (at least for *this* time) - and even if your opponent uses Flak and his powers, you still got the hope that he might get reduced firepower, making Flaks SCOP thrilling and entertaining for both sides. So he's one of the rare COs that are fun to play with and fun to play against, and I think that really is a thing that should be honored.*Go Flak!*
They could have given him a much better d2d bonus and COP and SCOP. His d2d bonus should be a bonus of +20% attack and defense, but he is incapable of using any terrain advantage( He is a brute after all). His CO increases his attack power by 10%(it's supposed to be boring, he is a brute after all). His SCOP powers take away his 20% defense bonus and adds it to his attack bonus
I don't mind Flak's gimmick. He's supposed to be such a brainless brute that he throws high firepower in a direction with little regard if he's actually hitting his targets. The issue is the bad luck he has undermines his good luck too hard. Nell has the same good luck gimmick, but without the bad luck and her good luck potential is higher than Flak's. Meaning Flak is a worse Nell. You would think he'd be a character with better good luck potential than Nell at the cost of getting bad luck engagements, but thats just not how he was designed and it sucks, leading to him being the worse CO.
The worst thing about Flak isn't that he's inconsistent, it's that he's actually a 100% co most of the time. His good and bad luck are two separate rolls that tend to cancel each other out. On top of that he has a mediocre set of powers he's just really underwhelming outside of his theme and co power songs which slap super hard
I'm sure they designed him to be bad on purpose since he's the first CO you go up against in AW2's campaign. When it comes down to it, he's just a shitty version of Nell. He's someone that you either play for this theme tune, or because you want to play with a handicap.
Sometimes, I wonder why Flak didn't just become the one to charge on the Battlefield towards your units when he has the power to put a battleship on a lake, and use Indirect Bombers
Am I wrong in saying Jugger is actually Flak? I always assumed as a kid it was him cause he messed up or something and black hole turned him into a cyborg
The ai can tell if they will get good or bad luck and will do seemingly dumb things as a result (I.e. attacking your full health tank with an infantry)
His Barbaric blow can deal insane amounts of damage if he gets lucky. One time i was using Kanbei and I have just used Samurai Spirit, Flak's mech unit managed to one shot my full HP neotank.(road terrain)
+zergterran If that was mathematically possible, yes. But the formula is proven to work differently, and thus you are an awful liar, sorry. The maximum luck damage Flak on Barbaric blow could do to a Neutank with +60% defense would be 40.
DoctorSpacebar DoctorSpacebar 8 years ago You have to give him credit for figuring out a way to get that battleship in that lake. 707 Reply 23 replies Ιορδάνης Solo Ιορδάνης Solo 5 years ago Of all the villains that I fought in Advance Wars 2, Flak's actually made me want to keep his phase going forever, just to hear his theme. 94 Reply 3 replies darthbomb darthbomb 8 years ago I remember playing as flak when I was a kid because I liked his metal like theme. To this day I still love it. 41 Reply 1 reply BiggusWeeabus BiggusWeeabus 2 years ago I sometimes question how the hell he became a commander 121 Reply 11 replies sigurdtheblue sigurdtheblue 7 years ago Hearing his turn music in campaign on the first stage is very scary. 124 Reply 5 replies King of the Moon King of the Moon 6 years ago I always thought that Flak should've played like Grimm does in Dual strike. A slight boost to power at the cost of poor defense seems more appropriate for a guy like flak than a damage roulette. Although it is very funny when a strategy suddenly gets derailed because he killed a Md. Tank with a recon or some nonsense like that. 78 Reply 3 replies Nathan Innes Nathan Innes 1 year ago This is a theme that I always underestimated due to only really hearing the beginning in the campaign but damn this is good. Also to answer the age old question, he threw that battleship. 23 Reply Raynar Raynar 8 years ago Flak was amung the best out of the Black Hole CO's, simply cause of his response to everything. First meeting Sami and Nell: "Two women CO's. Good Country, Must have!" to first spotting Max "Hey look, a Gorellia!". Flak is basically summerising the "Firepower over Brains" phrase :P 179 Reply 8 replies ArmouredLemming ArmouredLemming 8 years ago (edited) I always enjoyed fighting against Flak, he was one of the few CO's in the game that felt fair even when using his powers and was even fun to play as, sure sometimes your troops did little damage to something they should well of beaten, but other times (mainly with the super power) that group of small tanks could suddenly rip a neo tank unit to pieces, fun risk vs reward system! 84 Reply 3 replies ratioactive 414 ratioactive 414 6 years ago "They're bombers. They bomb." 239 Reply Hiryu the Dragonite Hiryu the Dragonite 3 years ago (edited) Whenever you think about how Andy doesn't know what units to use to Capture with, what an airport is, or what a continent is, remember that there's always someone who's even more of an idiot. Case in point, Flak can't even use a simple microphone, even though all you technically have to do is speak into it after it's set up. Although in his defense, apparently, he knows how to get Naval Units, such as Battleships into lakes with no ports...Granted I like to think that that would be due to unnatural human strength. 59 Reply 5 replies Hiryu the Dragonite Hiryu the Dragonite 3 years ago (edited) Underling: "Um...Lord Flak...The microphone?" Flak: "Shut up! Too complicated." 109 Reply DarkLordForte DarkLordForte 2 years ago "Oh no, Black Hole is invading! What do we... Oh, it's just Flak" 24 Reply Dynamoshock Dynamoshock 6 years ago Is it just me or does Flak look like The Engineer and The Heavy from TF2 fused together. (I'm just imagining them doing the fusion dance from DBZ, then they just turn into Flak) 171 Reply 10 replies Power Bomb Power Bomb 8 years ago Flak and his Indirect Combat Bombers 282 Reply 7 replies Redrockets23 Redrockets23 1 year ago Honestly this guy needs some love. Hopefully they buff him even if it's just a little bit in the remake. He's been concidered the worst CO on both advance wars 2 and DS its just sad. 63 Reply 10 replies Buzzy Bland Buzzy Bland 8 years ago I swear that any AI that played as Flak immediately breaks and starts doing tank loop-dee-loops when I play. I don't know why, and I'm seriously not joking; it actually freaking happens. While I'm engaging half of his force in one area, his tanks in another area just start driving in circles. 21 Reply 10 replies MsZsc MsZsc 8 years ago You'd think he'd have better anti air or something 202 Reply 10 replies DivineGrapes1470 DivineGrapes1470 3 months ago Flak really has a kick ass CO theme ! Very cool 1 Reply MrEpicTruth MrEpicTruth 1 year ago This and Adder's theme did something I wished all the BH themes did. Crank up the menace all the way to 11. When I hear this theme I think one word: MENACE. 4 Reply Doc_Vegapunk Doc_Vegapunk 8 years ago Freaking love this theme! Thank you! 3 Reply Nemu Nemu 9 months ago When spy saps your sentry one too many times... 4 Reply Anotherordinaryguy 499 Anotherordinaryguy 499 8 months ago Somehow, the black hole super CO power theme fits with him well. 1 Reply TheDarkMarioAndSonic TheDarkMarioAndSonic 6 years ago "You hear the beggining" Meh, this sounds mediocre. "The song starts picking up" Hmmm, this is actually better than I expected. "The music goes loud and faster, everything increases dramatically" HOLY SHIT. :O 20 Reply 1 reply Konrad Dobrowolski Konrad Dobrowolski 1 year ago Best theme in the game!!! Reply NorSeling NorSeling 12 days ago Sometimes, I wonder why Flak didn't just become the one to charge on the Battlefield towards your units when he has the power to put a battleship on a lake, and use Indirect Bombers Reply VictorTheMisanthrope VictorTheMisanthrope 5 years ago (edited) As much as people hate flak, (or should I say give him flack), I actually like playing as him. His music is good and he can be very cost efficient and devastating if you get his co or super co up and running, even to the point where attacking tanks with basic infantry is recommended. Plus, you gotta admit, he had great lines in he campaign 8 Reply 3 replies Hawkecrail Hawkecrail 7 years ago These bombers are indirect units 163 Reply 7 replies Rubeus Zukovsky Rubeus Zukovsky 8 years ago The greatest moment I remember playing as Flak was when I did 7 to my friend's Neo Tank with my Recon, with his Super Power of course. =D 5 Reply NotASpyReally NotASpyReally 9 months ago Just played Mass Effect 2 with this music. It was great Reply JackieW JackieW 1 year ago Here's hoping he gets atleast direct fire bonuses in the reboot. If anything, atleast keep his theme sounding like a banger. Reply Nicky Laraiso Nicky Laraiso 9 years ago It sure does feel good to do a quality performance 1 Reply Scruffy0105 Scruffy0105 8 years ago Grrrr! Two women COs! Good Country! I must have it! 119 Reply 7 replies ComRidleyW ComRidleyW 6 years ago I don't really think that Flak really is a bad CO - probably worse than most other COs in the game, but at least he isn't completely overpowered. He's a bit like the Green Earth COs - his day2day-power isn't very good, but if you play a bit with his COP or SCOP and manage to time their use right, he might turn out to be a beast on the battlefield. Or not. It's up to IntSys RNG, so basically everything could happen. 9 Reply 3 replies GalloViking GalloViking 7 years ago Weird to have a co called Flak that doesn't have a bonus to anti air units. Anyway, I like this guy. More than Jugger. 49 Reply 6 replies the R master the R master 11 months ago He looks sick in the remake! 1 Reply 18Krieger 18Krieger 7 years ago I really love his theme. But that is the already the best about him. 1 Reply Iain Cousins Iain Cousins 8 years ago Although I prefer a lot of the DS themes, I'll agree, this one sounds a lot more menacing than the Dual Strike version. :) 2 Reply Bill A Bill A 5 years ago If they came out with a solid advance wars for Nintendo switch I'd immediately purchase the console for the game alone ! 33 Reply 19 replies Basil of Good Wishes Basil of Good Wishes 3 years ago The Terminator of black Hole, he always comes back, even in DS. 4 Reply Ignis Jin Ignis Jin 3 years ago
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You have to give him credit for figuring out a way to get that battleship in that lake.
I don't know why I'm laughing so hard
+DoctorSpacebar
Flak be like: "We just take the Battleship, and push it somewhere else!"
DoctorSpacebar what mission?
That's what i'm wondering right now :(
Anotheruser 77 the lab map.
Underling: "Um...Lord Flak...The microphone?"
Flak: *"Shut up! Too complicated."*
Flak and his Indirect Combat Bombers
Secret power: artillery can hit air units
In andy's adventure rom hack his bombers are indirect its pretty cool
Jokes just turn into feature
don't forget his battleships in tiny lakes
@@darkmeraldpvp6531 that make sense since bomberd cannot dirext hit in real life
@@the_bane_of_all_anti_furry Dive Bombers?
"They're bombers. They bomb."
"Oh no, Black Hole is invading! What do we... Oh, it's just Flak"
Of all the villains that I fought in Advance Wars 2, Flak's actually made me want to keep his phase going forever, just to hear his theme.
Yeah his theme was better then Sturms imo
@@stomper1232 not really, Sturm's theme is cooler, but Flak's really says "I want to kick ass"
He was my favorite Co in the versus maps 🤣 I spam too much battleships
Something you'll like about the Switch remake of Advance Wars, is not only does Flak have a pretty good remixed theme (one that shits all over the DS version), and not only do their themes change during their attack phases (getting quieter with marching drums) and when they pop their powers (picking up in tempo), but their themes don't "reset" each turn: it's like someone hits pause on their soundtrack when their turn ends, and it picks right up from there next turn.
These bombers are indirect units
What's an airport?
Exactly how did Flak joined black hole again?
Not sure how he joined, but apperantly he was promoted by Hawke for showing "Great natural ability"
@@pvtblu1613 So he's the CO variant of cannon fodder.
@@clownplayer7265
I guess?
I remember playing as flak when I was a kid because I liked his metal like theme. To this day I still love it.
We are one in the same then lol and i'm still playing as Flak just to hear that theme
Hearing his turn music in campaign on the first stage is very scary.
+sigurdtheblue Yeah, maybe too evil for first level.
And then you play it and realise it is way too evil for a dunderhead like him.
yeah I fell in love with it the moment I heard it and I freakin main him as a character whether he is bad or not
Yeah you feel intimidated right off the bat and like he's hiding something more when you first meet him... then realize he's a jobber halfway through the campaign lol
When I first heard his theme, I thought it was a discount/poverty version of Sturm's variant.
I always thought that Flak should've played like Grimm does in Dual strike. A slight boost to power at the cost of poor defense seems more appropriate for a guy like flak than a damage roulette.
Although it is very funny when a strategy suddenly gets derailed because he killed a Md. Tank with a recon or some nonsense like that.
I mean in all fairness he IS the first black hole CO so he should be the weakest (and making him AW1 sturm would be a bit much ythink?). Also in line with his name, flak cannons aren't exactly known for their accuracy, since they're main purpose is "i don't have to aim if I just vomit a million projectiles at the other guy right?" and that unpredictability is reflected in flak's random damage rolls.
Also sorry for necroing this I just had to point it out
@@yoshifan2334 "i don't have to aim if I just vomit a million projectiles at the other guy right?" lmao
Flak's base skill should focus on high firepower (120-130%, but only with direct-fire units - indirects with this buff would be nuts) while having horrendous counterstrike damage (perhaps between a 30-40% penalty). It would encourage players who use him to be as aggressive as possible, which is quite befitting for his aggressive and "smash first, think later" attitude.
@@SoldierOfFate Exactly. #JusticeForFlak
@@SoldierOfFate I feel like that would make him perform better... Especially since he's my favourite XD
I do love how flaks theme is so brutish and out of control, it constantly changes and is madly erratic. It fits his impulsive, aggressive and thoughtless strategy and personality greatly. Also mirroring his erratic day to day and power where you just throw troops at the enemy and hope you land a big hit.
Flak was amung the best out of the Black Hole CO's, simply cause of his response to everything. First meeting Sami and Nell: "Two women CO's. Good Country, Must have!" to first spotting Max "Hey look, a Gorellia!". Flak is basically summerising the "Firepower over Brains" phrase :P
These bombers, they're indirect combat units. Wat? XD
Hawkecrail What if he made them to where the shot range 2 or three missiles? What if he was hinting towards his super evil secret scheme that he totally came up with without Lash or anyone else.
Jared Harrelson Maybe they used that idea for the DoR battleships
Hmmmmmmm
Jared Harrelson Flak has indirect bombers. bombers are counterparts to battleships. Battleships ncould move and fire in DoR. Flak is caulder and Andy is brenner with sonja being lin
This is a theme that I always underestimated due to only really hearing the beginning in the campaign but damn this is good. Also to answer the age old question, he threw that battleship.
Grrrr! Two women COs! Good Country! I must have it!
But then he ends up failing...
looks like Flak want Sami and Nell on his HQ, if you what i mean.
@@legendairenic6247 bruh
@@boejiden6257 There's definitely a good joke about Sami being the dom in there somewhere. But I'm not clever enough to think of it.
@@tomhill3248 Her Victory March was so good she barely needed any effort capturing his HQ.
You'd think he'd have better anti air or something
MrZsc Special ability to deploy Flaks -.o
Executive Sonda no, a special Co power to decrease the hp of all air units by half
Anti-airs are already sort of OP, and giving them any kind of positive RNG... yeah, arguably that's already his thing.
His abilities are indirect bombers and battleships on tiny lakes
I think I'd Like 150/150 Anti airs just to see if Sensei can STILL overpower that with his mechs.
I sometimes question how the hell he became a commander
ThePersonaWeeb same reason Andy became one “what’s an airport?”
He got promoted by Hawke... How Hawke even thought it was a good idea, it escapes me.
@@Kuraimizu9152 I think he did it to have some sort of distraction.
He probably like smashed up a helpless village really fast and Hawke was like TALENTED FELLOW
Maybe when Hawke was trying to find someone to lead the assault on Orange Star, Flak was all he could find amidst a slew of generic no name soldiers with no discernible skills.
I always enjoyed fighting against Flak, he was one of the few CO's in the game that felt fair even when using his powers and was even fun to play as, sure sometimes your troops did little damage to something they should well of beaten, but other times (mainly with the super power) that group of small tanks could suddenly rip a neo tank unit to pieces, fun risk vs reward system!
Nell is the same, except no risk
Flak Small tank vs neo ... that got me one time 😶
@@isaacguerra7888 The AI cheats with flak lol, they know exactly when their rolls are gonna be good or bad
Whenever you think about how Andy doesn't know what units to use to Capture with, what an airport is, or what a continent is, remember that there's always someone who's even more of an idiot.
Case in point, Flak can't even use a simple microphone, even though all you technically have to do is speak into it after it's set up.
Although in his defense, apparently, he knows how to get Naval Units, such as Battleships into lakes with no ports...Granted I like to think that that would be due to unnatural human strength.
I N D I R E C T
B O M B E R S
Yeeting bombs before the bomber actually reaches the target
He just picked up the warship and put it somewhere else
I just like imagining he lifted that damn thing, and put in the lake.
"Im trading mobility of the battleship for its range of attack. Its strategy!"
Moral of the story? Never skip arm day.
Honestly this guy needs some love. Hopefully they buff him even if it's just a little bit in the remake. He's been concidered the worst CO on both advance wars 2 and DS its just sad.
A way to buff him is to give him a flat boost in ATK, only when he's attacking, no buff when he's defending and counterattack.
@@MrSergore Or they could make it were good luck and bad luck don't cancel each other out and it's just one giant roll. The reason why he's so bad is cause the game rolls for good luck first then it rolls for bad luck and takes that away from the good luck. Flak has a value of 20/15 if I remember, so most of the time you're rolling around 0% so he's actually more average than even Andy cause even he has 10% good luck. It's even funnier when you realize it applies to his powers as well
Jugger is Flak done somewhat right cause he has a bigger range meaning you're actually likely to see some kind of effect instead of your rolls virtually canceling each other out. Sonja is in the same boat too as Flak but her luck can completely cancel each other out but she has other day-to-day powers to make up for it
Because of how luck works his super power averages out to 20% increases which is pathetic for a super.
Like nell is a straight upgrade,
Any other CO even andy has a better CO and super power.
I would suggest giving him a non luck characteristic like flak using flaks.
Or the meme indirect bombers.
I like the way Advance Wars Returns reworked him.
Passive: +10% Attack -50% Counterattack
Brute Force: +60% Attack
Barbaric Blow: +100% Attack -100% Counterattack -10% Defense
All out brawl but unlike Grimm, isn't frail at all.
@@Nitosa Nell is a straight upgrade in Black hole rising. while in Dual Strike his luck is actually better then Nell... unless it gets cancelled by his bad luck.
Is it just me or does Flak look like The Engineer and The Heavy from TF2 fused together. (I'm just imagining them doing the fusion dance from DBZ, then they just turn into Flak)
I would say it's more like Soldier, Engineer and Heavy. But... yeah.
^
Underrated comment.
@@Gamerguy826 And Medic, because of the spiky Stahlhelm.
@@hombrerandom1431 Soldier already has a helmet like that. Besides, Medic wouldn't be part of the fusion because that implies that Flak is actually smart.
When spy saps your sentry one too many times...
What’s this Fire Emblem RNG doing in my Advance Wars?
I swear that any AI that played as Flak immediately breaks and starts doing tank loop-dee-loops when I play. I don't know why, and I'm seriously not joking; it actually freaking happens. While I'm engaging half of his force in one area, his tanks in another area just start driving in circles.
guess they took a Barbaric Blow to the head
The A.I knows what the dispersion of their attack strength is going to be, so they only attack you with units it knows are going to get lucky.
Sounds like some fire emblem shit there
What do you mean by that?
In fire emblem the exact same thing happens, and it sucks when you have to restart because someone got killed by a moving enemy you can't see.
"You hear the beggining" Meh, this sounds mediocre.
"The song starts picking up" Hmmm, this is actually better than I expected.
"The music goes loud and faster, everything increases dramatically" HOLY SHIT. :O
This and Adder's theme did something I wished all the BH themes did. Crank up the menace all the way to 11. When I hear this theme I think one word: MENACE.
*Hawke Said...crush em i gotta crush em all here*
Andy: „Hey, Nell. We‘re fighting the Black Hole Army, right?“
Nell: „Yes. However, it isn’t Sturm we’re facing. It looks like another CO. I get the impression that whoever it is just likes to smash things.“
Hey buddy. I'm a destructioneer. That means I solve Problems...
Not problems like "how do I build a Bridge" or "what's the better building material, glass or Concrete" because that would fall within the purviews of Engineering.
I solve Practical Problems!
Like, What if some mean mother-hubbard wants to shoot me in the ass and overtake my continent? The answer? Fortify my troops. And if that don't work? Fortify MORE troops! Like this little-old quad-tank here; Built by me, Deployed by me, and you best hope, Not defending a city when I'm using my superpower.
Yes, I think Flak looks like the Engineer from TF2
Never played TF2, but now that you mention it, he does kinda look like the Engineer. Huge chin and goggles. From that quote, he sounds like Flak if he had some of Lash's brains.
His portrait while in-game looks like the engineer's broad face and wearing red goggles, so I kinda thought that too. It's definitely the helmet and goggles that does it.
Masupups Well engineer doesnt have a 6 pack.
We can't be too sure...
Masupups nah he's out of shape
The Terminator of black Hole, he always comes back, even in DS.
Weird to have a co called Flak that doesn't have a bonus to anti air units. Anyway, I like this guy. More than Jugger.
His Name Is Meant To Be "Luck" In A Different Language.
its cause he takes a lot of flak
actually i agree with you. and for those who don't understand what he's referring to, FLAK was the name for an anti aircraft gun used by german during WW2 i believe, which now that i mention it seems to be a clever reference on the part of the devs since I think I read somewere black hole in these games was supposed to be loosely based on nazi germany.
@@forty5864 green earth infantry is aesthetic as sheisse
@@ActivistVictor "Loosely"
My man have you SEEN Sturm? You could call him cyborg hitler and the description wouldn't be that inaccurate
LESS TALK MORE FIGHT!YOU CALL THAT A LOSS? I'VE CRAPPED BIGGER LOSSES THAN THAT!GOD BLESS AMERICA
He's a black hole CO but we love him really
Finn O'Hagan that there is a soldierneer
Slaps.
Basically from what i heard of from flak is that every low and crappy unit can somehow be reliable as high level units.....
From infantry can take on md tanks with ease
While the high level unit however will felt crappy offensive nerf...
What kind of upside down i have been lookin here....
Hardest track in the game for sure
0:40 - flight of the bee, Black Hole edition.
Maybe that explains why he just deployed a Bomber.
Freaking love this theme! Thank you!
I just noticed how similar him and tf2's engineer look like
Damn, Engineer's been pumping iron!
As much as people hate flak, (or should I say give him flack), I actually like playing as him. His music is good and he can be very cost efficient and devastating if you get his co or super co up and running, even to the point where attacking tanks with basic infantry is recommended. Plus, you gotta admit, he had great lines in he campaign
And the fact he somehow put a battleship in a lake
@@mineflameblade8788 and one cannot forget his indirect combat bombers either
@@ActivistVictor I don't know how he pulled that magic off.
Flak is the cousin of Dr. Frankenstein's monster who enlisted in the Black Hole Army
Indirect Bombers and Battleships in lakes Ftw!
If they came out with a solid advance wars for Nintendo switch I'd immediately purchase the console for the game alone !
They won't though
Advance Wars & Golden Sun are dead
I'd buy it for the updated soundtrack if they used real instruments. I always wanted to hear a Benny Goodman-esque big band rendition of Sensei's theme.
ScottLucrei Golden sun was my fav too :(
@@Lucrei. Now it's all about Fire Emblem and its myriad of Waifus.
Boy do I have news for you
I always thought Flak's voice would be like that Squirrel Commander from Conker's Bad Fur Day... but dumber, more thuggish and evil.
I think he sounds a Warhammer 40k Ork.
@@matheuskawano8375 i like to see him sound more childish but dumby like not soo rough like an ork as yours think
Nah, it's just King Dragon.
you know when ever i see his picture i hear the heavy from tf2
I think soldier
Eyetoons Soldier+Heavy+Engineer
@@dindaud9216 literally
And this also shows you why not to touch Sasha... if he finds out you touched it, he gets so pissed he tried to join with an evil army attempting to take over the wrld
It sure does feel good to do a quality performance
When all you need is firepower, who cares about strategy?
The words I live by
I don't really think that Flak really is a bad CO - probably worse than most other COs in the game, but at least he isn't completely overpowered. He's a bit like the Green Earth COs - his day2day-power isn't very good, but if you play a bit with his COP or SCOP and manage to time their use right, he might turn out to be a beast on the battlefield. Or not. It's up to IntSys RNG, so basically everything could happen.
My problem with Flak is that his powers are so unreliable. Other co's, you get what you get, but Flak has a chance of fucking up his attacks which makes him a wild cannon.
Executive Sonda That's true, and that's why Flak is considered one of the worst COs. But I think Flaks random attacks are also something that makes matches with him really enjoyable (at least in AW2, not in DS where every CO has +10 luck without any downsides...). He might get his "Flak-attacks" and completely demolish units he usually couldn't touch, but still has the risk to fuck up matchups that would have been save for any other CO. It's just more satisfying killing a Md tank using infantry with Flak cause you know you took a risk and the odds were in your favour (at least for *this* time) - and even if your opponent uses Flak and his powers, you still got the hope that he might get reduced firepower, making Flaks SCOP thrilling and entertaining for both sides. So he's one of the rare COs that are fun to play with and fun to play against, and I think that really is a thing that should be honored.*Go Flak!*
Flak is like... Nell after a Balance update.
"Hey this max kinda remind me of me expect I am me"
I miss this ape man
He looks sick in the remake!
His VA is even better: friggin ProZD himself!
Good ol Helmut
I guess this was the inspiration for the TF2 soldier...
And not just in looks.
They could have given him a much better d2d bonus and COP and SCOP.
His d2d bonus should be a bonus of +20% attack and defense, but he is incapable of using any terrain advantage( He is a brute after all).
His CO increases his attack power by 10%(it's supposed to be boring, he is a brute after all).
His SCOP powers take away his 20% defense bonus and adds it to his attack bonus
I don't mind Flak's gimmick. He's supposed to be such a brainless brute that he throws high firepower in a direction with little regard if he's actually hitting his targets. The issue is the bad luck he has undermines his good luck too hard. Nell has the same good luck gimmick, but without the bad luck and her good luck potential is higher than Flak's. Meaning Flak is a worse Nell. You would think he'd be a character with better good luck potential than Nell at the cost of getting bad luck engagements, but thats just not how he was designed and it sucks, leading to him being the worse CO.
Somehow, the black hole super CO power theme fits with him well.
I really love his theme. But that is the already the best about him.
This version is the best version of his theme, the dual strike version’s drums sound lack luster
Its your turn, now move your army, or else
See this bomber? It's an indirect unit.
Flak vs Max vs big bubba
flakalakalakalakalakalakalakalak
The worst thing about Flak isn't that he's inconsistent, it's that he's actually a 100% co most of the time. His good and bad luck are two separate rolls that tend to cancel each other out. On top of that he has a mediocre set of powers he's just really underwhelming outside of his theme and co power songs which slap super hard
I'm sure they designed him to be bad on purpose since he's the first CO you go up against in AW2's campaign. When it comes down to it, he's just a shitty version of Nell. He's someone that you either play for this theme tune, or because you want to play with a handicap.
*I'd Hear This Theme* Ah This Gonna Be Easy!
Although I prefer a lot of the DS themes, I'll agree, this one sounds a lot more menacing than the Dual Strike version. :)
Look at that jaw though.
Sometimes, I wonder why Flak didn't just become the one to charge on the Battlefield towards your units when he has the power to put a battleship on a lake, and use Indirect Bombers
id love to see fight Beast from days of ruin
The greatest moment I remember playing as Flak was when I did 7 to my friend's Neo Tank with my Recon, with his Super Power of course. =D
This when you fuck up and Flaks power is ready be like:
Best theme in the game!!!
Just played Mass Effect 2 with this music. It was great
Indirect Bombers and a battleships on lakes.
Am I wrong in saying Jugger is actually Flak? I always assumed as a kid it was him cause he messed up or something and black hole turned him into a cyborg
flak rewinds me of engineer
Maybe compare it to the theme of cyberpunk?
Bonus/reduced damage at random isn't at all a bad CO design.
But it's bad CO design for bad AI. Like, really bad AI hahaha.
Anyway dank theme.
The ai can tell if they will get good or bad luck and will do seemingly dumb things as a result (I.e. attacking your full health tank with an infantry)
His Barbaric blow can deal insane amounts of damage if he gets lucky. One time i was using Kanbei and I have just used Samurai Spirit, Flak's mech unit managed to one shot my full HP neotank.(road terrain)
+zergterran
If that was mathematically possible, yes.
But the formula is proven to work differently, and thus you are an awful liar, sorry.
The maximum luck damage Flak on Barbaric blow could do to a Neutank with +60% defense would be 40.
YOU JUST GOT ROASTED BY A AW NERD MY BOI
Props to Luke Herzen
Those hands look like he has like 8 fingers on each hand o.O
Flak was the bad version of nell
Flak was kind of an ... underwhelming villain.
*infantry attacks MD tank while on barbaric blow* Md tank explodes. JESUS
*other time* A-Air attacks b copter* only 3 damage....
Flak might suck but dammit if his music ain't catchy as hell
Good theme. Bad CO.
DoctorSpacebar
DoctorSpacebar
8 years ago
You have to give him credit for figuring out a way to get that battleship in that lake.
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Ιορδάνης Solo
Ιορδάνης Solo
5 years ago
Of all the villains that I fought in Advance Wars 2, Flak's actually made me want to keep his phase going forever, just to hear his theme.
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darthbomb
darthbomb
8 years ago
I remember playing as flak when I was a kid because I liked his metal like theme. To this day I still love it.
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BiggusWeeabus
BiggusWeeabus
2 years ago
I sometimes question how the hell he became a commander
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sigurdtheblue
sigurdtheblue
7 years ago
Hearing his turn music in campaign on the first stage is very scary.
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King of the Moon
King of the Moon
6 years ago
I always thought that Flak should've played like Grimm does in Dual strike. A slight boost to power at the cost of poor defense seems more appropriate for a guy like flak than a damage roulette.
Although it is very funny when a strategy suddenly gets derailed because he killed a Md. Tank with a recon or some nonsense like that.
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Nathan Innes
Nathan Innes
1 year ago
This is a theme that I always underestimated due to only really hearing the beginning in the campaign but damn this is good. Also to answer the age old question, he threw that battleship.
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Raynar
Raynar
8 years ago
Flak was amung the best out of the Black Hole CO's, simply cause of his response to everything. First meeting Sami and Nell: "Two women CO's. Good Country, Must have!" to first spotting Max "Hey look, a Gorellia!". Flak is basically summerising the "Firepower over Brains" phrase :P
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ArmouredLemming
ArmouredLemming
8 years ago (edited)
I always enjoyed fighting against Flak, he was one of the few CO's in the game that felt fair even when using his powers and was even fun to play as, sure sometimes your troops did little damage to something they should well of beaten, but other times (mainly with the super power) that group of small tanks could suddenly rip a neo tank unit to pieces, fun risk vs reward system!
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ratioactive 414
ratioactive 414
6 years ago
"They're bombers. They bomb."
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Hiryu the Dragonite
Hiryu the Dragonite
3 years ago (edited)
Whenever you think about how Andy doesn't know what units to use to Capture with, what an airport is, or what a continent is, remember that there's always someone who's even more of an idiot.
Case in point, Flak can't even use a simple microphone, even though all you technically have to do is speak into it after it's set up.
Although in his defense, apparently, he knows how to get Naval Units, such as Battleships into lakes with no ports...Granted I like to think that that would be due to unnatural human strength.
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Hiryu the Dragonite
Hiryu the Dragonite
3 years ago (edited)
Underling: "Um...Lord Flak...The microphone?"
Flak: "Shut up! Too complicated."
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DarkLordForte
DarkLordForte
2 years ago
"Oh no, Black Hole is invading! What do we... Oh, it's just Flak"
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Dynamoshock
Dynamoshock
6 years ago
Is it just me or does Flak look like The Engineer and The Heavy from TF2 fused together. (I'm just imagining them doing the fusion dance from DBZ, then they just turn into Flak)
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Power Bomb
Power Bomb
8 years ago
Flak and his Indirect Combat Bombers
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Redrockets23
Redrockets23
1 year ago
Honestly this guy needs some love. Hopefully they buff him even if it's just a little bit in the remake. He's been concidered the worst CO on both advance wars 2 and DS its just sad.
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Buzzy Bland
Buzzy Bland
8 years ago
I swear that any AI that played as Flak immediately breaks and starts doing tank loop-dee-loops when I play. I don't know why, and I'm seriously not joking; it actually freaking happens. While I'm engaging half of his force in one area, his tanks in another area just start driving in circles.
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MsZsc
MsZsc
8 years ago
You'd think he'd have better anti air or something
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DivineGrapes1470
DivineGrapes1470
3 months ago
Flak really has a kick ass CO theme ! Very cool
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MrEpicTruth
MrEpicTruth
1 year ago
This and Adder's theme did something I wished all the BH themes did. Crank up the menace all the way to 11. When I hear this theme I think one word: MENACE.
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Doc_Vegapunk
Doc_Vegapunk
8 years ago
Freaking love this theme! Thank you!
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Nemu
Nemu
9 months ago
When spy saps your sentry one too many times...
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Anotherordinaryguy 499
Anotherordinaryguy 499
8 months ago
Somehow, the black hole super CO power theme fits with him well.
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TheDarkMarioAndSonic
TheDarkMarioAndSonic
6 years ago
"You hear the beggining" Meh, this sounds mediocre.
"The song starts picking up" Hmmm, this is actually better than I expected.
"The music goes loud and faster, everything increases dramatically" HOLY SHIT. :O
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Konrad Dobrowolski
Konrad Dobrowolski
1 year ago
Best theme in the game!!!
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NorSeling
NorSeling
12 days ago
Sometimes, I wonder why Flak didn't just become the one to charge on the Battlefield towards your units when he has the power to put a battleship on a lake, and use Indirect Bombers
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VictorTheMisanthrope
VictorTheMisanthrope
5 years ago (edited)
As much as people hate flak, (or should I say give him flack), I actually like playing as him. His music is good and he can be very cost efficient and devastating if you get his co or super co up and running, even to the point where attacking tanks with basic infantry is recommended. Plus, you gotta admit, he had great lines in he campaign
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Hawkecrail
Hawkecrail
7 years ago
These bombers are indirect units
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Rubeus Zukovsky
Rubeus Zukovsky
8 years ago
The greatest moment I remember playing as Flak was when I did 7 to my friend's Neo Tank with my Recon, with his Super Power of course. =D
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NotASpyReally
NotASpyReally
9 months ago
Just played Mass Effect 2 with this music. It was great
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JackieW
JackieW
1 year ago
Here's hoping he gets atleast direct fire bonuses in the reboot.
If anything, atleast keep his theme sounding like a banger.
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Nicky Laraiso
Nicky Laraiso
9 years ago
It sure does feel good to do a quality performance
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Scruffy0105
Scruffy0105
8 years ago
Grrrr! Two women COs! Good Country! I must have it!
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ComRidleyW
ComRidleyW
6 years ago
I don't really think that Flak really is a bad CO - probably worse than most other COs in the game, but at least he isn't completely overpowered. He's a bit like the Green Earth COs - his day2day-power isn't very good, but if you play a bit with his COP or SCOP and manage to time their use right, he might turn out to be a beast on the battlefield. Or not. It's up to IntSys RNG, so basically everything could happen.
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GalloViking
GalloViking
7 years ago
Weird to have a co called Flak that doesn't have a bonus to anti air units. Anyway, I like this guy. More than Jugger.
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the R master
the R master
11 months ago
He looks sick in the remake!
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18Krieger
18Krieger
7 years ago
I really love his theme. But that is the already the best about him.
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Iain Cousins
Iain Cousins
8 years ago
Although I prefer a lot of the DS themes, I'll agree, this one sounds a lot more menacing than the Dual Strike version. :)
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Bill A
Bill A
5 years ago
If they came out with a solid advance wars for Nintendo switch I'd immediately purchase the console for the game alone !
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Basil of Good Wishes
Basil of Good Wishes
3 years ago
The Terminator of black Hole, he always comes back, even in DS.
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Ignis Jin
Ignis Jin
3 years ago
what
@@Racc_Oon no
...this theme is my least favorite, tied with BHCOP.