Randy Orton is maybe the best heel of the 21st century so far (behind Mr. McMahon). He's truly diabolical and an unpredictable maniac. Current antihero Randy is solid, but he played a villain TOO well and now I can't trust him as a babyface. I'm always waiting for him to snap back into vintage maniac heel Randy.
@@ItaliaStaliarandy Orton is more evil/bad tweener who switch to face and heel whenever he wants and beat the crap out of anyone weather it's heel or face. Randy Orton literally plays the face character who can't be trusted at all even by audience and WWE stars as well
I prefer babyface Bayley. I can never get on board with heel Bayley. She's not menacing or conniving or evil. She's too nice and sweet. Her growth as a character has been great but I can't help but see the old "I'm a hugger" Bayley. That's the one I love. The Bayley who gets entire arenas singing for her is the babyface Bayley.
My favorite heel moment of randy was his rivalry with the undertaker My favorite heel moment of triple h was when he hit hbk in the back with a sledgehammer after losing to him at summerslam starting their two year rivalry
Triple H was my most hated wrestler as a kid, which means he did an amazing job. Incredible heel. Sometimes I feel like people get so caught up in the nepotism around Paul, but never mention that he was actually an incredible wrestler.
Just goes to show that The Rock is one of those Once in a Lifetime people/characters that can either be Babyface or Heel. Either way, he's entertaining as hell and can still get cheered as a heel. /
Randy Orton’s face work has always been well liked by me As someone who got into WWE in the early 2010s when Orton was one of thhe top faces I have always known he’s a great face Though the 2010s and 2020s are the only decades where he had AWESOME face runs As the intial attempts with him as a face in the early 2000s didn’t work
I love Randy Orton regardless of whether he's playing a face or a heel. BUT I like the maniac, unpredictable heel version the best. If you haven't already, go back and check out 00s Orton and you'll see why he's just a flat out better heel than a babyface. His heel runs are unreal and some of the best of all time. He took the heel role to another level. It was downright scary how good a villain he was.
@@Loe_Jisteven as face lot of audience thinks he can't be trusted that people wanted his matches with babyfaces by turning heel and you know not just audience but WWE stars themselves don't trust randy Orton even when he is face. This hints itself gives you randy is better suited as heel than face when people always doubt his intention when he is face and can't trust him enough.
Is it me or when Santi forget that drew was a heel during his Scottish psychopath the best Drew's I've seen were this heel run and his Scottish psychopath heel run
No need to call Drew a face or heel. Its an unnecessary division of his true character. Right now, he’s a bad man who wants to do good/ good man who wants to do bad. He’s the ULTIMATE tweener, an agent of chaos.
Touching up on the argument that Chad has overshadowed Sami in this feud is one I completely agree with. I think the comedic side of Sami needs to come back and it could easily happen with him becoming the temporary leader of the all new BETA Academy (Otis, Tozawa and Maxxine). This way, I could see Sami becoming even more of a loveable face
The video discusses whether various WWE superstars are better suited as heels or babyfaces. The hosts analyze the pros and cons of each character's alignment, highlighting their most iconic runs and the impact on fan engagement. Key moments: 00:00 The video discusses whether WWE Superstars are better as baby faces or heels, with guest conman167. They analyze AJ Styles and Andrade El Idolo, highlighting their successful heel runs. -AJ Styles is debated as a baby face or heel, with a preference for his impactful heel run, especially against John Cena and in New Japan. -Andrade El Idolo's wrestling personas are examined, focusing on his successful heel run in NXT and the uncertainty of his current role in WWE. 06:02 Bailey's character evolution from a successful babyface to a compelling heel in WWE is a testament to her versatility and storytelling ability, making her current babyface run more engaging and impactful. -Bailey's transition from a beloved babyface to a captivating heel showcased her range and depth as a performer, adding layers to her character and storytelling. -The comparison between Bailey's babyface and heel personas highlights the complexity and success of her character development in WWE, resonating with fans and industry insiders. -Analyzing Bobby Lashley's career trajectory from heel to babyface in WWE and TNA, showcasing the challenges and successes he faced in portraying both roles. 12:07 The video discusses recent heel and babyface turns in WWE, highlighting the success of Chad Gable's evolution into a top-tier heel character, emphasizing the importance of WWE resigning him for his potential as a main event caliber player. -Analysis of recent WWE heel and babyface turns, including the unsuccessful attempt to turn Caro into a babyface and the successful evolution of Chad Gable into a top-tier heel character. -Comparison of Chad Gable's past as Shorty G to his current successful heel persona, praising his character development and in-ring work against Sami Zayn. -Evaluation of CM Punk's history as a heel in WWE, highlighting memorable moments and his ability to cut impactful promos that resonate with fans, discussing his recent heelish tendencies in AEW. 18:11 The discussion revolves around the evolution of wrestlers from being heels to babyfaces and vice versa. While some have excelled in both roles, the focus is on how their character changes have impacted their careers and fan reception. -Analyzing the impact of CM Punk's iconic 'pipe bomb' promo on his transition from heel to babyface and the significance of crowd reactions in shaping his character. -Exploring Cody Rhodes' journey from Stardust to a successful babyface in AEW, with a potential future heel turn based on fan expectations and past heel personas. -Debating Drew McIntyre's effectiveness as a babyface versus a heel, considering his recent successful heel run and past struggles in portraying a convincing heel character. 24:16 The speaker discusses the evolution of Drew McIntyre's character from a babyface to a heel, highlighting the impact of his recent work and the relatability of his persona to the audience. -Comparing Drew McIntyre's success as a babyface versus a heel, acknowledging the influence of recency bias on the speaker's preference. -Analyzing Finn Balor's various runs as a babyface and a heel, emphasizing the speaker's admiration for his heel persona in NXT. -Debating the effectiveness of J Uso as a babyface versus a heel, noting his standout performance as a single star post his involvement in the bloodline. 30:20 The speaker discusses the character development and evolution of wrestlers like J Uso, Kyrie San, and LA Knight, highlighting their transitions between babyface and heel roles based on crowd reactions and character depth. -The analysis of J Uso's character evolution from his tag team days to his current babyface persona, with a comparison of his past heel run and potential for more depth in character development. -The evaluation of Kyrie San's current status as a heel, lack of depth in character development, and comparison to her previous babyface run in NXT, emphasizing the need for a character shift. -The examination of LA Knight's consistent character portrayal as arrogant, regardless of being a babyface or heel, focusing on his crowd interaction and popularity influencing his role. 36:23 Randy Orton's character evolution from a menacing heel to a respected babyface is discussed, highlighting his iconic heel runs and current likability as a face. The debate on Maxine Dupri's potential as a heel manager and the contrasting opinions on Seth Rollins' alignment are also explored. -Analysis of Randy Orton's transition from a feared heel to a beloved babyface, citing his past iconic heel runs and current popularity as a face. -Debate on Maxine Dupri's potential as a heel manager, reflecting on her past roles and the impact of her association with Chad Gable. -Exploration of Seth Rollins' character complexity, discussing the blurred lines between his babyface persona and underlying heel characteristics. 42:26 Seth Rollins is a complex character in WWE, showcasing both heel and babyface tendencies throughout his career, with notable moments like turning on The Shield and his feud with Cody Rhodes. -Evaluation of Seth Rollins as a character with heel and babyface traits, analyzing his in-ring abilities and character development. -Comparison of Seth Rollins' success as a heel versus as a babyface, highlighting his versatility in portraying different roles in WWE. -Discussion on Charlotte Flair's character alignment, emphasizing why she is more suited as a heel rather than a babyface in WWE storylines. -Anticipation for Roman Reigns' potential transition to a babyface character, acknowledging his impact as a heel and the excitement surrounding his character evolution. 48:30 The video discusses the evolution of wrestling characters from being babyfaces to heels, focusing on examples like Roman Reigns and The New Day, highlighting how fan reactions can influence character development. -The discussion delves into the transition of Roman Reigns from a forced babyface to a more entertaining heel character, showcasing the impact of fan reception on character direction. -The evolution of The New Day from intended babyfaces to successful heels is explored, emphasizing how embracing their obnoxiousness led to their popularity and legendary status. -The debate between preferring The New Day as babyfaces or heels is presented, with a focus on memorable moments like their Hell in a Cell match, showcasing the versatility of their characters. 54:35 The speaker reflects on their experience with The Rock's different character iterations in WWE, from being unimpressed by Babyface Rock to praising the evolution of the final boss character, considering it the best version they have witnessed. -The speaker recalls their initial skepticism towards Justin Bieber potentially hosting WWE, only to be pleasantly surprised by The Rock's unexpected appearance, marking a memorable introduction to the wrestling legend. -The speaker discusses their admiration for Hollywood Rock in 2003, highlighting how this version of The Rock as a heel made a lasting impact and became their favorite WWE Superstar.
You should do this exact video for more legendary wrestlers who have done both roles and now retired: HHH, HBK, Stone Cold, Trish, Lita, Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Undertaker, Bret Hart, Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, Bautista, Goldberg (I know only one heel run and it sucked, but I wish they’d tried it again at some point as I could have seen it working later if it had been booked better), Sting, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall and many others. Love to see your opinions as to whether you think they were better as faces or heels. This way you can really avoid the recency bias too!
You guys just make me feel so OLD when you talk about wrestling ! I was fan from the beginning of the attitude era - literally Wrestlemania 13 and specifically Hart vs Austin was what got me hooked, i even managed to see an ECW show at the ECW arena, and was present at Wrestlemania 19, then i kind of fell off the Wrestle train in 2004 - for 10 FREAKIN YEARS, but now back into it again and really enjoying it
The Thing About AJ Styles Is That AJ Was Always Loved By The People From The Start Because Of His Inspiring Success Story He Came From A Very Poor Background But With Sheer Hardwork AJ Carved His Own Legacy In Pro-Wrestling, The Man Who Once Had Nothing Is Now Successful In Both His Personal And Professional Life. While The Best Work AJ Styles Has Done Was As A Bad Guy, Be It In The NWA-TNA Days As A Arrogant Young Guy, His Last Days In TNA As The Lone Wolf, The Bullet Club AJ Styles At NJPW, The 2016 The Champ That Runs The Camp AJ Styles, 2019-20 The OC AJ Who Gave The Undertaker His Last Match And Now The 2024 Veteran AJ Styles.
I am a 90 baby but I didn't start watching wrestling until 2009. So I missed all of the rocks career but I grew up hearing my classmates talk about the rock. I personally didn't get to see him til the feud with Cena, punk, and awesome truth
I think Randy Orton is relatively easy. He’s good as a babyface… but he’s an all timer as a heel. He thrives as a heel, you can see his comfortable ness when being a heel.
tweener should of been in option in this video bc theres a few people i think are better when they can act heel and face at the same time depending on the program kinda like the miz or KO who i think are faces at times that also do heel like promos and i think theyre good examples of possible wrestlers that are good tweeners
Really cool idea for a video and I'm new to the channel content. I'll be looking around for more of you santi :) I think in general more personality and fun is on display when people play heels
Anyone remember the heel run Drew went on in 2019 with Dolph Ziggler? No? Just me? ok. (edit: oh btw they were Raw tag champions. I bet you also forgot about that too)
Just got home after finishing my 4th day in a row working 12ht EMT ambulance shift. I sit down and get some snacks, my edible kicks in and I get an hour long Santi upload. What a treat. Also, time to oil up
Lol my mulberries are starting to turn and these damn birds are eating them so my smoking/after work chill spot is directly under the patch so i can shake the branches and yell "you damn kids get out of my yard!" 😂
Heel Bobby was one of the best people on the roster in 2020-2021. He was brutal and strong in the ring as a heel and putting people in the hurt lock was great. The almighty era was great
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Yeah, I could see Cody turning heel many, many years from now when all his young fans are grown up. I could see it being a Hogan and Macho type of situation at Bash at the Beach '96 situation.
What Santi Zap talking about? Lashley had a great face run in 2005-2007. Lashley was a heel during the hurt business because he attacked the baby faces.
Just going off the thumbnail cause I'm only like 30secs into the vid but randy is a better heel but he is one of those characters that could play both roles and it really depends on what he is doing
I'm fine with Randy as either babyface or heel. All I want is to see him punt one of the bloodline 1 more time. Like fatu not falling down to the rko and he just fking goes for the punt
8:40 Nah, you guys missed it. Bayley turned heel when she smashed her hug buddies with a golf club, and one evident sign that she was gonna turn heel was... her haircut. Short hair instead of the usual ponytail? I knew something was up. 19:38 In my opinion, Cody should turn heel the moment he loses his title to AJ Styles. I want to see a Homelander kinda Cody, he can cook that. 23:40 Give Drew some time, the feud with CM Punk has just started. His promos will get even better. 48:07 Tribal Chief >>>> Big Dog any day of the fucking century, but Roman turning babyface to save Paul Heyman and go against Solo Sikoa's putsch on the Bloodline? Sign me the fuck in, I'm all for it.
@@ralphmarbler27you're insane and delusional to think Cody will turn heel for long time soon. The reason he became WWE no.1 was because he is no.1 babyface and his character is just so much about positivity and children loving guy just like cena and Bianca that's why they never turn heel as top guys in business. Even Daniel Bryan turned heel after 2018 when his time was literally over and his heel run was to push others aka Kofi Kingston. Only face guys who were no.1 heel in the business were triple h and currently roman reigns because their face runs fails and their heels run made them into hof superstars. The day WWE turns Cody heel soon in 2024 or 25 like you said that's day he won't be top guy again and he would be working towards to put others top faces over even if he wins title. Cody Rhodes will turns heel once he accomplish everything and new guys or generation will carry forward WWE.
This version of drew feels like the most genuine version of drew that we have ever gotten imo it’s “heel” but at the same time it’s baby face I feel like this is the most over he had ever been even being the baby face in 2020
I agree with Conman on Jey His face work outweighs his heel work His arc of being the right hand man of The Bloodline all lead to Jey being the first man to pin Roman in four years You just can’t ignore that he pinned THE GUY and how behind Jey and his brother the crowd were
When you guys got to the new day all I could think about was the promo rock cut on them I don’t remember it word for word but what I do remember is rock saying something along the lines of “y’all are wearing llama p3nis’s on your head” 😂 and Xavier yelling WHAT!? In the funniest way 💀
I like this accept fin ballor as you’ve brought up other industries in previous people’s run heel fin creating the bullet club is better than the nxt run by far
i'm surprised that y'all didn't mention the architect Rollins in 2015 after u mentioned the shield implosion considering it was the best version of Seth Rollins not only as a heel but his best version outta all his characters
We actually already seen how heel Cody can look like remember the end of clash at the castle match ,that fucking homelander type heel I really want to happen on Cody.
finally Santi acknowledged the oil up comments🤣
he did before lol
He has to give the people what they want.
@@TheKendeHDShut up.
@@OnlyBuenoBarsrude
He also acknowledged it in the upcoming Wrestling Is Cool! Episode. Just in case y'all weren't on the patreon.
enough yapping oil up
😂😂😂😂😂
Conman and Santi oiled up 1v1 iron man match
With Bobby Lashley as referee, man would glisten too 🙏
In hell in a cell too
I’d pay good money to see that
@@kevinuchiha6830Lesnar on commentary.
Start 00:00 End 59:46
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You’re so helpful
thanks bro 👍
Omg ong this helped
Day 31 of asking Santi to rank every NXT TakeOver
this would be fucking fire
Good idea
Good Idea
Here is Conman's channel! th-cam.com/channels/PrPpMSq6db9e92y5Ga9cIA.html
You guys are so cool im suscribed to you too
Oil up santi
Oil up Santi
Oil Up
Oil up
In my opinion randy better off as a heel i mean i know he can play a role as both babyface and heel but the heel run just fit him well
Same, he was legit evil I'll never trust baby face Randy
Randy Orton is maybe the best heel of the 21st century so far (behind Mr. McMahon). He's truly diabolical and an unpredictable maniac. Current antihero Randy is solid, but he played a villain TOO well and now I can't trust him as a babyface. I'm always waiting for him to snap back into vintage maniac heel Randy.
@@ItaliaStaliarandy Orton is more evil/bad tweener who switch to face and heel whenever he wants and beat the crap out of anyone weather it's heel or face.
Randy Orton literally plays the face character who can't be trusted at all even by audience and WWE stars as well
I like babyface Bayley, she was always great in the ring. But it was during her heel run is when she became amazing on the mic
I prefer babyface Bayley. I can never get on board with heel Bayley. She's not menacing or conniving or evil. She's too nice and sweet. Her growth as a character has been great but I can't help but see the old "I'm a hugger" Bayley. That's the one I love. The Bayley who gets entire arenas singing for her is the babyface Bayley.
I like hugger Bayley more
@@Loe_Jistnot in 2020 when she had her rivalry with sasha banks.....she was evil
Randy Orton is the greatest heel ever idc what anyone says Orton's the GOAT heel😔🙏
I will go with Triple H.
And then Orton
My favorite heel moment of randy was his rivalry with the undertaker
My favorite heel moment of triple h was when he hit hbk in the back with a sledgehammer after losing to him at summerslam starting their two year rivalry
100% agree. Just waiting for some 15 yr old to come on here and say “nO i ThInK iTs rOmAn 🤓”
Triple H was my most hated wrestler as a kid, which means he did an amazing job. Incredible heel.
Sometimes I feel like people get so caught up in the nepotism around Paul, but never mention that he was actually an incredible wrestler.
100% Agree Randy is the greatest heel 2007-2009 was the best because honestly I find his 07-08 WWE Title reign underated
Just goes to show that The Rock is one of those Once in a Lifetime people/characters that can either be Babyface or Heel. Either way, he's entertaining as hell and can still get cheered as a heel. /
Corporate rock
Hollywood rock
The final boss
The “oil up-rising” has begun
Randy Orton’s face work has always been well liked by me
As someone who got into WWE in the early 2010s when Orton was one of thhe top faces
I have always known he’s a great face
Though the 2010s and 2020s are the only decades where he had AWESOME face runs
As the intial attempts with him as a face in the early 2000s didn’t work
I love Randy Orton regardless of whether he's playing a face or a heel. BUT I like the maniac, unpredictable heel version the best. If you haven't already, go back and check out 00s Orton and you'll see why he's just a flat out better heel than a babyface.
His heel runs are unreal and some of the best of all time. He took the heel role to another level. It was downright scary how good a villain he was.
@@Loe_Jisteven as face lot of audience thinks he can't be trusted that people wanted his matches with babyfaces by turning heel and you know not just audience but WWE stars themselves don't trust randy Orton even when he is face. This hints itself gives you randy is better suited as heel than face when people always doubt his intention when he is face and can't trust him enough.
POV: you’re waiting for Dijak to come up
Waiting for him and dakota kai 😭
Pov waiting for dom to show up
an hour of santi :)
An hour of (dry) santi :(
One hour of Oil up 😌
@@HerrDr.Magnum 1HOUR? Gotta join the patreon for that kinda content buddy
Heel Drew has depth and will make him a better face eventually. He’s over but him no longer trying to be upstanding has helped him so much.
Is it me or when Santi forget that drew was a heel during his Scottish psychopath the best Drew's I've seen were this heel run and his Scottish psychopath heel run
No need to call Drew a face or heel. Its an unnecessary division of his true character. Right now, he’s a bad man who wants to do good/ good man who wants to do bad. He’s the ULTIMATE tweener, an agent of chaos.
Aka Anti Hero
Jey Uso heel with Sami Zayn was cinema
No. Regurgitating the “cinema” buzz word is CRINGE
oil up stop edging us
Austin Theory will cook as a babyface when it happens.
We know it's definitely coming, can't wait
Idunno his gimmick where he was a millennial and taking pictures of shit.
He was a really good heel. I wanted to see him get destroyed.
Pause@@okyep
@@kevinuchiha68304 months later and he’s still heel
Five months later, he’s still not heel
This has to be the best Santi has looked in a while. He cleaned up well nice.
Touching up on the argument that Chad has overshadowed Sami in this feud is one I completely agree with. I think the comedic side of Sami needs to come back and it could easily happen with him becoming the temporary leader of the all new BETA Academy (Otis, Tozawa and Maxxine). This way, I could see Sami becoming even more of a loveable face
When Maria asked Carlito:do u spit or swallow,then carlito said:i can ask u same question ☠️☠️☠️☠️
The video discusses whether various WWE superstars are better suited as heels or babyfaces. The hosts analyze the pros and cons of each character's alignment, highlighting their most iconic runs and the impact on fan engagement.
Key moments:
00:00 The video discusses whether WWE Superstars are better as baby faces or heels, with guest conman167. They analyze AJ Styles and Andrade El Idolo, highlighting their successful heel runs.
-AJ Styles is debated as a baby face or heel, with a preference for his impactful heel run, especially against John Cena and in New Japan.
-Andrade El Idolo's wrestling personas are examined, focusing on his successful heel run in NXT and the uncertainty of his current role in WWE.
06:02 Bailey's character evolution from a successful babyface to a compelling heel in WWE is a testament to her versatility and storytelling ability, making her current babyface run more engaging and impactful.
-Bailey's transition from a beloved babyface to a captivating heel showcased her range and depth as a performer, adding layers to her character and storytelling.
-The comparison between Bailey's babyface and heel personas highlights the complexity and success of her character development in WWE, resonating with fans and industry insiders.
-Analyzing Bobby Lashley's career trajectory from heel to babyface in WWE and TNA, showcasing the challenges and successes he faced in portraying both roles.
12:07 The video discusses recent heel and babyface turns in WWE, highlighting the success of Chad Gable's evolution into a top-tier heel character, emphasizing the importance of WWE resigning him for his potential as a main event caliber player.
-Analysis of recent WWE heel and babyface turns, including the unsuccessful attempt to turn Caro into a babyface and the successful evolution of Chad Gable into a top-tier heel character.
-Comparison of Chad Gable's past as Shorty G to his current successful heel persona, praising his character development and in-ring work against Sami Zayn.
-Evaluation of CM Punk's history as a heel in WWE, highlighting memorable moments and his ability to cut impactful promos that resonate with fans, discussing his recent heelish tendencies in AEW.
18:11 The discussion revolves around the evolution of wrestlers from being heels to babyfaces and vice versa. While some have excelled in both roles, the focus is on how their character changes have impacted their careers and fan reception.
-Analyzing the impact of CM Punk's iconic 'pipe bomb' promo on his transition from heel to babyface and the significance of crowd reactions in shaping his character.
-Exploring Cody Rhodes' journey from Stardust to a successful babyface in AEW, with a potential future heel turn based on fan expectations and past heel personas.
-Debating Drew McIntyre's effectiveness as a babyface versus a heel, considering his recent successful heel run and past struggles in portraying a convincing heel character.
24:16 The speaker discusses the evolution of Drew McIntyre's character from a babyface to a heel, highlighting the impact of his recent work and the relatability of his persona to the audience.
-Comparing Drew McIntyre's success as a babyface versus a heel, acknowledging the influence of recency bias on the speaker's preference.
-Analyzing Finn Balor's various runs as a babyface and a heel, emphasizing the speaker's admiration for his heel persona in NXT.
-Debating the effectiveness of J Uso as a babyface versus a heel, noting his standout performance as a single star post his involvement in the bloodline.
30:20 The speaker discusses the character development and evolution of wrestlers like J Uso, Kyrie San, and LA Knight, highlighting their transitions between babyface and heel roles based on crowd reactions and character depth.
-The analysis of J Uso's character evolution from his tag team days to his current babyface persona, with a comparison of his past heel run and potential for more depth in character development.
-The evaluation of Kyrie San's current status as a heel, lack of depth in character development, and comparison to her previous babyface run in NXT, emphasizing the need for a character shift.
-The examination of LA Knight's consistent character portrayal as arrogant, regardless of being a babyface or heel, focusing on his crowd interaction and popularity influencing his role.
36:23 Randy Orton's character evolution from a menacing heel to a respected babyface is discussed, highlighting his iconic heel runs and current likability as a face. The debate on Maxine Dupri's potential as a heel manager and the contrasting opinions on Seth Rollins' alignment are also explored.
-Analysis of Randy Orton's transition from a feared heel to a beloved babyface, citing his past iconic heel runs and current popularity as a face.
-Debate on Maxine Dupri's potential as a heel manager, reflecting on her past roles and the impact of her association with Chad Gable.
-Exploration of Seth Rollins' character complexity, discussing the blurred lines between his babyface persona and underlying heel characteristics.
42:26 Seth Rollins is a complex character in WWE, showcasing both heel and babyface tendencies throughout his career, with notable moments like turning on The Shield and his feud with Cody Rhodes.
-Evaluation of Seth Rollins as a character with heel and babyface traits, analyzing his in-ring abilities and character development.
-Comparison of Seth Rollins' success as a heel versus as a babyface, highlighting his versatility in portraying different roles in WWE.
-Discussion on Charlotte Flair's character alignment, emphasizing why she is more suited as a heel rather than a babyface in WWE storylines.
-Anticipation for Roman Reigns' potential transition to a babyface character, acknowledging his impact as a heel and the excitement surrounding his character evolution.
48:30 The video discusses the evolution of wrestling characters from being babyfaces to heels, focusing on examples like Roman Reigns and The New Day, highlighting how fan reactions can influence character development.
-The discussion delves into the transition of Roman Reigns from a forced babyface to a more entertaining heel character, showcasing the impact of fan reception on character direction.
-The evolution of The New Day from intended babyfaces to successful heels is explored, emphasizing how embracing their obnoxiousness led to their popularity and legendary status.
-The debate between preferring The New Day as babyfaces or heels is presented, with a focus on memorable moments like their Hell in a Cell match, showcasing the versatility of their characters.
54:35 The speaker reflects on their experience with The Rock's different character iterations in WWE, from being unimpressed by Babyface Rock to praising the evolution of the final boss character, considering it the best version they have witnessed.
-The speaker recalls their initial skepticism towards Justin Bieber potentially hosting WWE, only to be pleasantly surprised by The Rock's unexpected appearance, marking a memorable introduction to the wrestling legend.
-The speaker discusses their admiration for Hollywood Rock in 2003, highlighting how this version of The Rock as a heel made a lasting impact and became their favorite WWE Superstar.
Conman vs Santi oiled up HELL IN A CELL🔥🔥🔥
You should do this exact video for more legendary wrestlers who have done both roles and now retired:
HHH, HBK, Stone Cold, Trish, Lita, Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Undertaker, Bret Hart, Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, Bautista, Goldberg (I know only one heel run and it sucked, but I wish they’d tried it again at some point as I could have seen it working later if it had been booked better), Sting, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall and many others. Love to see your opinions as to whether you think they were better as faces or heels.
This way you can really avoid the recency bias too!
You need to oil up!
Time for Santi to oil up🙏
If the crowd cheers you as a heel, you’re a better babyface. Thats why Randy Orton can’t be a real heel ever again.
_An hour???_ Bros we eating well tonight hooooly
Oil up Santi
You guys just make me feel so OLD when you talk about wrestling ! I was fan from the beginning of the attitude era - literally Wrestlemania 13 and specifically Hart vs Austin was what got me hooked, i even managed to see an ECW show at the ECW arena, and was present at Wrestlemania 19, then i kind of fell off the Wrestle train in 2004 - for 10 FREAKIN YEARS, but now back into it again and really enjoying it
I started a movement 1:27
I can imagine a feud between Gable and Gunther down the line. Not a babyface vs heel feud but a sports rivalry
Chad Gable is the modern version of Kurt Angle in not only being an olympic style wrestler
But also having his heel work excel his babyface work
W conman for mentioning the oil up comments santis gonna do it sooner than later
56:15
no one:
santi: "LOOK AT YOU NOW"
The Thing About AJ Styles Is That AJ Was Always Loved By The People From The Start Because Of His Inspiring Success Story He Came From A Very Poor Background But With Sheer Hardwork AJ Carved His Own Legacy In Pro-Wrestling, The Man Who Once Had Nothing Is Now Successful In Both His Personal And Professional Life.
While The Best Work AJ Styles Has Done Was As A Bad Guy, Be It In The NWA-TNA Days As A Arrogant Young Guy, His Last Days In TNA As The Lone Wolf, The Bullet Club AJ Styles At NJPW, The 2016 The Champ That Runs The Camp AJ Styles, 2019-20 The OC AJ Who Gave The Undertaker His Last Match And Now The 2024 Veteran AJ Styles.
I am a 90 baby but I didn't start watching wrestling until 2009. So I missed all of the rocks career but I grew up hearing my classmates talk about the rock. I personally didn't get to see him til the feud with Cena, punk, and awesome truth
the collab we all needed 🙏🙏
I think Randy Orton is relatively easy. He’s good as a babyface… but he’s an all timer as a heel. He thrives as a heel, you can see his comfortable ness when being a heel.
Why does everyone forget about Drew McIntyre’s heel run from 2018 with Dolph Ziggler and into 2019 on his own also being with Shane McMahon
Seriously like how do people remember him being called the Scottish psychopath but don't remember he was a heel and when it happened
W collab W video
Hello JTGily! I didn't know you watch wrestling! W! GG!
tweener should of been in option in this video bc theres a few people i think are better when they can act heel and face at the same time depending on the program kinda like the miz or KO who i think are faces at times that also do heel like promos and i think theyre good examples of possible wrestlers that are good tweeners
Charllote as a heel is just 💎💎💎💎💎💎💎
she is very bland tho. the same " I am the queeeeen" promo every week
Day 9 of asking santi to do a video only showing his chair
Dat 81 of asking Santi to eat a Big Mac, Large Fries, and coke on video
Really cool idea for a video and I'm new to the channel content. I'll be looking around for more of you santi :) I think in general more personality and fun is on display when people play heels
1 hour long video is amazing
Anyone remember the heel run Drew went on in 2019 with Dolph Ziggler? No? Just me? ok. (edit: oh btw they were Raw tag champions. I bet you also forgot about that too)
An hour of Santi this is gonna be a generational edge
With recency bias, this might be one of the best episodes you’ve ever made. You should do a tier list.
this is the collab I've been waiting for
After this it’s gonna suck to go back to sancho😞
Sancho is much funnier and better than conman
Just got home after finishing my 4th day in a row working 12ht EMT ambulance shift. I sit down and get some snacks, my edible kicks in and I get an hour long Santi upload. What a treat.
Also, time to oil up
need that kairi baby face run asap
Lol my mulberries are starting to turn and these damn birds are eating them so my smoking/after work chill spot is directly under the patch so i can shake the branches and yell "you damn kids get out of my yard!" 😂
Hot take- I'd like to see a babyface logan pual
I think they forgot about Drew heel run when he was dolph body guard and tag partner
Heel Bobby was one of the best people on the roster in 2020-2021. He was brutal and strong in the ring as a heel and putting people in the hurt lock was great. The almighty era was great
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ginger santi and santi
Yeah, I could see Cody turning heel many, many years from now when all his young fans are grown up. I could see it being a Hogan and Macho type of situation at Bash at the Beach '96 situation.
The guys that appeared 👏
What Santi Zap talking about? Lashley had a great face run in 2005-2007. Lashley was a heel during the hurt business because he attacked the baby faces.
Just going off the thumbnail cause I'm only like 30secs into the vid but randy is a better heel but he is one of those characters that could play both roles and it really depends on what he is doing
I'm fine with Randy as either babyface or heel. All I want is to see him punt one of the bloodline 1 more time. Like fatu not falling down to the rko and he just fking goes for the punt
Santizap es un Santo
8:40 Nah, you guys missed it.
Bayley turned heel when she smashed her hug buddies with a golf club, and one evident sign that she was gonna turn heel was... her haircut. Short hair instead of the usual ponytail? I knew something was up.
19:38 In my opinion, Cody should turn heel the moment he loses his title to AJ Styles. I want to see a Homelander kinda Cody, he can cook that.
23:40 Give Drew some time, the feud with CM Punk has just started. His promos will get even better.
48:07 Tribal Chief >>>> Big Dog any day of the fucking century, but Roman turning babyface to save Paul Heyman and go against Solo Sikoa's putsch on the Bloodline? Sign me the fuck in, I'm all for it.
Cody : " Yeah sure you can take my title, and I'll lose everything... but then, I'll have nothing to lose"
funny you think Cody losing to aj lmaoooo
@@Dre384
*If* that happens. But of course the plot will make Cody retain for sure.
@@ralphmarbler27you're insane and delusional to think Cody will turn heel for long time soon.
The reason he became WWE no.1 was because he is no.1 babyface and his character is just so much about positivity and children loving guy just like cena and Bianca that's why they never turn heel as top guys in business. Even Daniel Bryan turned heel after 2018 when his time was literally over and his heel run was to push others aka Kofi Kingston.
Only face guys who were no.1 heel in the business were triple h and currently roman reigns because their face runs fails and their heels run made them into hof superstars.
The day WWE turns Cody heel soon in 2024 or 25 like you said that's day he won't be top guy again and he would be working towards to put others top faces over even if he wins title.
Cody Rhodes will turns heel once he accomplish everything and new guys or generation will carry forward WWE.
if we get you to 500k subs before the year ends you better oil up for a stream
yes conman and santi finally collab
I thought it would be every wrestler
This version of drew feels like the most genuine version of drew that we have ever gotten imo it’s “heel” but at the same time it’s baby face I feel like this is the most over he had ever been even being the baby face in 2020
Day 60 of asking you to rank every superstar based off of pure in ring ability
Since Santi gets bigger and bigger on Wrestling youtube there are feats after feats
So great
how did you forget the original Scottish Physcopath run with Drew when he was teaming with Dolph and feuding with the Shield?
fun fact i was there in chicago when Tommaso turned heel on Johnny
U should make a vid on predicting the future of the current NXT Talent....also oil up
I agree with Conman on Jey
His face work outweighs his heel work
His arc of being the right hand man of The Bloodline all lead to Jey being the first man to pin Roman in four years
You just can’t ignore that he pinned THE GUY and how behind Jey and his brother the crowd were
When you guys got to the new day all I could think about was the promo rock cut on them I don’t remember it word for word but what I do remember is rock saying something along the lines of “y’all are wearing llama p3nis’s on your head” 😂 and Xavier yelling WHAT!? In the funniest way 💀
Santi i think you forgot about drews scottish psychopath gimmick he had he was a heel
41:36 I AM HERE FOR THE RANDY ORTON GLAZE-A-THON🐐🐍
I like this accept fin ballor as you’ve brought up other industries in previous people’s run heel fin creating the bullet club is better than the nxt run by far
Yesterday was my first time being in your twitch chat and all I have to say is your chat is a 10/10 best chat on twitch
Here before the daily person telling Santi to oil up ✋
Why everybody forget how good was McIntyre as a heel when he’s called up to the main roster in 2018 to feud with the Shield?
Also Triple H was the one who created Bayley Babyface in NXT and Vince Mcmahon was the one who created Bayley Heel.
i'm surprised that y'all didn't mention the architect Rollins in 2015 after u mentioned the shield implosion considering it was the best version of Seth Rollins not only as a heel but his best version outta all his characters
@conman167 starting off strong 😂❤
Day 45 of asking Santi to do a front row vlog at a wwe event
We actually already seen how heel Cody can look like remember the end of clash at the castle match ,that fucking homelander type heel I really want to happen on Cody.
So acknowledging me Santi
Im here for all these collaborations
Bring them all 😈
What a collab. Nice yall
Santi looks like he's been held at gunpoint. 29:27
New video idea . Is Santi better oiled up or not oiled up
Day 26 of top 10 high flyers of all tome
day 41 of asking for " top 10 best in ring performers currently "
The goats are finnaly a duo
An underrated heel run for the new day was when they invaded raw in 2017
Gable doing shorty G is as great as Dustin Rhodes doing golddust. Underrated G.O.A.T compeditor