We bought our daughter the Raptor after she got her RN. She loves 'em, but no longer uses them in the ER. She doesn't need all the EMT tools in a facility. So we then got her a good set of standard shears with spring clip in the handle. Much more practical for her. She now carries the Raptor in her car emergency kit.
Most important questions for trauma shears, how difficult is it to clean dried blood, gunk, and trash from the joints and how often/easy is it to take apart, sharpen, and service?
As a medic who uses the raptors... Get friendly with your hospital's autoclave. The SOG looks like it should be reasonably clean-able but you will never get under the buttons on the raptors. They have to be autoclaved . They also pretty much can't be taken apart (I have broken several star bits trying to budge the center bolt) and the toothed profile means that they can't really be sharpened without needle files. also, the thick blade means that as the pivot loosens over time, you can't straighten the blade like you could with the SOG. Also, Leatherman has left me high and dry on support for it. I'm a very unhappy customer for the raptors after years of tolerating them. Toolcrib here's awesome video sold me on trying the parshears, which have a lifetime warranty and SOG offers 50% off for first responders.
@@colinmartin9797 I'd just carry a simple thick bladed one. And carry a leatherman or large victorinox in addition. Some things simply shouldn't be multitool.
@@LittleUrbanPrepper The only thing that the raptors had going for them was that absolutely perfect belt system. If leatherman just made a belt clip that held a standard pair of penny cutters like they do the raptors, I'd buy that thing in a heartbeat. As it stands, the SOG have been easier to clean and more durable than the leatherman raptors. If a compact, folding trauma shear is important yo someone, I'd point them that direction.
You can take the raptors apart VERY easily to clean them and put them back together. You can also sharpen one of the blades on them (the smooth edged blade) but not the micro-serrated edge blade as the serrations are so tiny not even a needle file would be able to sharpen them. The good thing about the serrations though is that they grab the material you are trying to cut and prevent that material from “slipping” forward as you cut. That being said you can get them sharpened by leatherman. I will personally just sharpen the smooth side until they don’t cut anymore, then get them serviced by Leatherman.
The leatherman has kind of a small teeth on it's lower shear, that can hold on any threaded material while cutting plus the fact that leatherman shears are thicker which made it better to cut any rope like materials.
Yeah. Big thing is the cutting performance. You can even cut a full motocycle jacket, leather or not. That is the most important feature for me at the ER. Never used parashears, but the cutting blades look like the ones on the shit the hospital give us as standard issue. A guy cutting some cord with something made to save people is just silly.
SOG has teeth on lower cutting edge like the Raptor. But, that said, the SOG even with new added pocket clip model are just not touching LM. SOGs go on sale and are worth the $50 if you are saving money. I bought both, but most people can't (have a block in their mind where they think they can't making $50K/yr). The SOG would be perfect if they beefed the cutters up and upgraded the glass cutter. The rest of it, strap cutter and pocket clip (newer model) is equal on clothing. I rolled towels up and leather. Both work well. The LM can be serviced though, while the SOG can't. SOG should forget the tool pack(awl, serrated micro blade, Phillip drive, and flat drive in an awkward use position to put a pivot screw on the cutters and making them thicker. My fave test is 6 layers of wrangler denim and quality leather stock. My main use is wood veneer, but I doubt anyone outside a few people use them for that.
OH, SOG should have put their classic and fantastic "V-cutter" on Instead of a copy of the LM. V-Cutter is insanely good. Like reverse scissors not in motion.
In my mind these aren’t really the same tool. Similar. But the Raptors are very emergency response specific in their design, whereas the Parashears seem like they are meant for survival or all around EDC with those additional tools. I feel like they both have their place, but not the same place.
I used the seatbelt cutter to cut a carpet once. It cut through the entire width of the carpet in one continuous pull. Like butter. I recorded it and showed some friends. I also cut a torqued tshirt and safety vest from a guy caught in some machinery. It was twisted and torqued so tightly that the guy was having a hard time breathing. We got shears to cut the twisted fabric but cheap shears were bending and separating. Unable to cut. My Leatherman shears cut through with a few pumps of the handle. Many guys saw how my shears performed now i see more and more Leatherman shears on their waists!!!
Trauma shears serve two main purposes, in my experience: cutting clothes off and cutting wound care supplies; tape, gauze, etc. Frankly, my raptor has been unused for 7 years because it doesn't fit well in my hands. Wiss scissors are a godsend though. They're sharp, inexpensive and cut through anything
As a paramedic, the raptors win purely because of the ring cutter. The cutters we carry on the ambulance are horrible. It’s not the most common emergency, but the ring cutter on the raptors blow away any commercial cutter I’ve seen.
We're mulling over both of these for EMS week gifts. The Raptors are $79-plus, the SOG $63 with free shipping. For something that will be easy to lose on a chaotic scene in the dark. Like a crowded beach full of drunks like we have a few times a year. Regular trauma shears from somewhere in Asia are a dime a dozen. One of the helicopter services throws them out like pens and mouse pads. Few folks even carry anything remotely like a multi-tool. They're too cool to carry anything on a belt, especially females (you know its true). I can barely make the females on my shift wear a radio. Some kids tend to go into a house empty-handed. I stomp them like roaches (after the call). Some are almost too cool to carry their own pen or notecards, but always seem to need mine. A few younger guys have Raptors on those fire dept. radio slings, which are just another (but somehow cooler) version of the rookie batbelt that we like to laugh about. Yeah I have one, been using it 35 years. If you get to sleep at work and don't wear a radio sling or batbelt, its hard to keep low chute-times if you have to load up your pockets before getting out the door. The alternative is to sleep with hard items in your pockets, sleeping fully clothed. Losing a Raptor on a scene would be like losing a Littman stethoscope. Stuff grows legs and walks, especially pretty toys.
I'm a box medic and I vote for spending an extra $15 for the quality of the Leatherman; I use mine ALL the time and don't like to be on shift without it - also, the rookie batbelt thing is hilarious and at one point I was just as guilty of that as all of the newer guys but at this point in my career (almost 10 years), the only things I really need are a flashlight and my Raptor, my most-used tool. Also, I bought a bright baby blue Littman so I could easily recognize it as mine 😎 I haven't managed to lose it yet but I know what you're saying lol
Hands down leatherman wins, the SOG looks like it was ad-hoc put together with alot of tools that are useless for who it's made for. Also working EMS in the field and in a level 1 trauma center I have used the ring cutter many times, its a very useful tool.
If it broke during the intended use, Leatherman will certainly replace it for you! That ring cutter is absolutely essential in the field…and is used more often than you might think in hospital. Time is often essential. When you need a ring cutter, you need it Right Now. (A jammed ring may trap someone in their burning vehicle, or it may cut off blood circulation to the finger. The first is a life or death problem. The second could cost someone his or her finger, if left untreated. Not to mention - a ring on a badly swollen finger is extraordinarily painful!) In any case, that feature is no afterthought. Leatherman intends it to work, to work well, and to work every time…under repeated use, for the life of the tool. Ask any medical professional, or any bench jeweler - some of whom are on call to deal with extreme cases. (You wouldn’t believe the dumb things some people try to do with rings. I’ll leave that to your imagination. You’ll probably guess right on the first try.) In any case, it should never break during use. The company will want to know that it did; and they will probably thank you for telling them. (It’s most likely a problem in heat treatment, which could affect EMTs and ER Nurses who depend on their Raptors every day.)
Good comparison, in fairness to the SOG's lack of pocket clip.... I have the Raptor and carry mine loose in my trouser pocket, so given that closed they have a similar sihouette the SOG could probably be used/carried in that manner. Again great video, cheers.
The leatherman also has a lifetime warranty on them where they will take care of any issue you have with them including sharpness. I’m not sure but I don’t think SOG offers that. But great partial review on both of the products.
Former LEO and EMT here, and I can't imagine spending a ton of money on something that you're primarily gonna use in a confusing, hectic rapidly evolving situation where you're likely to lose them, or have them covered in someone else's bodily fluids... I carried the inexpensive
I see your point but I am careful to keep track of my equipment. I never really lost one but I have had people try to appropriate them in a hospital er...
@@txtoolcrib I am a paramedic and will never use the garbage $5 shears. I have both the xshear and raptor but i mainly carry the raptor on my person because the pocket carry ability with the clip is really compact and low profile. The cheap shears have failed too many times and hurt your fingers too because of how badly they cut, you have to squeeze excessively hard. I don't have time to trifle with POS shears and worry about whether I'm going to have to find a second pair of shears in the heat of treatment because the garbage pair wouldn't cut. If you have a nice pair of shears, you shouldn't lose them. You put it back where it came from after you use it, you don't just set them down or hand them to people without making sure you get it back immediately after they're done.
TX Tool Crib thanks. Also, due to the compound leverage, don’t you need to open the handle more (on SOG) to get the shears blade open at the same opening as ones in Raptor?
@@Genesislights not this time, because the pivot for the blades is not at the same location as the pivot point for the compound leverage gears. So it opens up fairly quickly, which is why I believe you lose the benefit of the compound leverage to begin with.
Hey I was wondering if u could make a video about sharpening multitool knives and knives in general. My Swiss tech is dulling after about 2 months and I figure there is a video out there but I wanna hear it from u man.
I was going to suggest/ask for a similar video. General maintenance for multi tools. I have particular trouble getting serrated blade and awl back in good shape after a tough job.
@@ryanf5503 I'm total newb to sharpening knives and I got the Lansky Blade Medic for $11 on Amazon. It has a diamond rod to sharpen serrations. Try getting the Blade Medic. Of course check some instructional videos on TH-cam to help out.
My coworker is a SOG diehard, when he saw my Raptors he drooled over them, shortly thereafter the Paras came out and I told him about it and even HE considered them less that the Raptors.
How tight should the pivot on the Leatherman be? When I got mine I felt that it was unusually difficult to open and close the blades to make cuts. I tried loosening the pivot a bit but ran into issues with the blades separating and not cutting near the pivot, so I tightened it back up. I'm assuming there is meant to be a little play between the blades when they are fully open? The blades on my pair "meet up" around the 4cm mark on the ruler. Does anyone have any insight on what the "correct" pivot tightness should be on these?
Pretty good video. However, for a "fair" comparison, you should have used the new Raptor shears instead of your old ones. I fully understand the reason for not doing that. But anything that the SOG "won" on, it could be that the SOG is better, or it could be that the Raptor needed sharpened. As for the out of place tools on the SOG, I think they did that for marketing reasons. It doesn't matter that they are not very useful for this sort of tool, it allows them to call say the SOG has 11 tools.
That’s a good point, but I did intentionally. I was pretty sure the Leatherman was going to outclass the SOG from the get go. I may redo this later with the new version.
I like the parashears. As a firefighter/EMT I like how there’s a O2 key. I’ll always have a key and never have to find one. It’s perfect for what I need and use it. Personally I don’t believe there’s a best. There’s good for what you need it for. Good review
go to medic school and I promise you you'll use the shears way more often and yeah, the Raptor has a O2 key as well, integrated with the seatbelt cutter
Yeah. As of 08/22/2023 the price of the Leatherman Raptor is $99.00 Plus Your States Sales tax. Still worth it, as these shears are top notch. They will do what they are designed to do. I would recommend them to anyone serious about Trauma Shears.
comfort doesn't really matter because it takes less than a minute to cut the cloth. it you're cutting the clothes of 5-6-10 people then comfort is important
I bought the Leatherman Raptor the week they hit the market. Had it sitting in the side pocket of my drivers door on my truck. I took my truck in to get an alignment. When I got my truck back I noticed that they were gone. I about had a come apart with the manager. After about a 20 minute rant, the mechanic magically found them on the ground. Apparently, they had “fallen” out of the truck door when he got in it. Uh huh 🤔!
@@txtoolcrib I have a Console Vault in two of my vehicles. Have had a few things stolen out of my truck before. A valet attendant stole my brand new digital camera once. And have been broken into a couple of times. So now, anything valuable goes in there, especially when it’s not parked at work or at home.
I learned the hard way you don't use either of these for cutting cardboard; you use the Skeletool instead, which so far has not let me down yet, especially with its Bit Kit which only adds functionality. I used to work in a restaurant and would regularly use my Raptor for cutting open cardboard boxes, well over time that caused problems with both the screw and somehow part of the handle too. MAYBE I got a lemon (that does happen) but when Leatherman themselves acknowledges at least one design flaw and then OMITS FEATURES from their "redesign", that's a problem.
Almost the same as macgyver bryan I bought a knife from them last year and not even 20 min into owning it the pocket clip turned into the handle of the knife destroyed the pocket clip slot by deforming the g10 scales or whatever it was made of and snapped the clip. Long story short most of there knives ive found only have a single screw holding the pocket clip on which causes a pivot point. Ive never seen this on "quality" knives I own crkt buck kershaw and they all use 2 screws to hold there clips on. Sog denied any warranty or replacement or guarantee it wouldn't happen again
@@rockstarfan886 I had an issue with a tool on a MT. I asked just to replace only that tool, they said it had to be purchased. Used to Leatherman NQA warranty. They begrudgingly sent it after almost pleading. It was traded for something. Almost too bad it was was fun flipping it. The Free P4 is just as fun.
th-cam.com/video/kfhJKxoot8o/w-d-xo.html The video where it shows the ineffectiveness of the glass break on the SOG.... when it comes to such tool, it's never meant to move or it will just close on itself like what was shown on the video.
When you cut the rope that was thick the red rope when you use the sog you were cutting the Rope towards the far end of the blades. When you use the Raptor you cut nearer to the pivot of the two blades which is always going to cut better than if you go farther out near the end of the blades. I think that was very biased I'm not sure what to think. You seem to already have your mind made up that raptor is going to be better than a sog
The so called rope or seat belt cutter is completely useless tool for any multitool. I could only see little use for anglers and only when it is always accessible ie outside. Your very good presentation showed it clearly. It is much easier to cut the seat belt or rope with shears or serrated blade like on Victorinox RescueTool.
They cut rolled gauze very well, same thing with Paracord. And yeah, it's kinda dumb to have it on a layperson's multi-tool, but it doesn't have a risk of accidentally cutting the patient like a serrated blade.
Manufacturers of Leatherman Raptor and SOG Parascessers should donate their items for review to the ocean-conservation-namibia. What better way to test both scissors under salt water, sand conditions while cutting off different sizes of fishing lines entangled on the seal while holding down a scared, angry wild seal. So far I have seen them only Leatherman Raptor type used to the the fishing lines. This is an actual field test.
SOG in the open position inside the case still exposes the blade... Kinda no point to carry it tat way when you are likely to soil, or knock it on yourself or someone else in that exposed manner.
This test would have been interesting while wearing the thin nitrile gloves that most medics wear and compare the damage to the gloves after testing. It seems like the locking mechanisms of the SOG would destroy the gloves easily. The ability to clean the tool as well as the sheath on the Leatherman would be a major plus from a medical use point of view. The addition of a bottle opener to every multitool seems like pure insanity to me. If I had a multi purpose tool with no bottle opener I can guarantee you I could open a bottle using one of the other tools.
To me, this is a no brainer. Common sense to me since Victorinox's blend of stainless is so corrosion resistant. I see no excuse for Victorinox not making a full size set of scissors or trauma sheers. With the way people go nuts over mirror polish officer Swiss steel. I can't imagine why this product wouldn't be graciously received by consumers. I bet Diezelle57 and Ben would be first in line to get ahold of a Raptor style Victorinox. Even if it was a Fiskar sewing sheer type of scissor from Victorinox. I could definitely see Ben Jonesing to get a set for himself. 😆
I used the Raptors on my years of fire service and I loved them. Things pretty much cut through anything i had to get through. Jeans, leather boots, thick jackets and so on. After a while though i did notice they sort of dulled out a little so they’re just sitting in a drawer. But i would still recommend that tool to ANYONE wether its for Duty or EDC. Well worth it
sog seems like cool kids would like it more because it looks fancy but i am not cool or kid and i understand fancy look isnt for me so i know what i am going to buy
I have plenty of Knipex products. I also don’t generally use the Raptor for cutting wire, which it can handle with ease by the way. Finally, mine are slightly dull because I use them.
Know this is a year late... from my experience in USR, the raptors are better at the heavier materials: boot leather, laces, upolstery, and different cordage.
I've been using a raptor as a medic for about 7 years I fucking hate it. For starters, the ergos on the raptor are utter dogshit. Trying to get through a motorcycle rider's full suit with them is absolute agony. Hotspots everywhere. I can hand on heart say they're the most uncomfortable penny cutters I have ever used. Second, they don't keep an edge very well. They also have a really weak pivot that eventually works enough play into the blade that it doesn't close no matter what, and the torx fasteners might as well be rivets. The thick ass blade makes them very not maneuverable in the material you're cutting, particularly motorcycle leathers through CE padding. Leatherman won't even fucking sharpen them anymore. You can't even PAY them to sharpen them, and sharpening the teeth is a bitch, requires some tiny needle files and a vise. The other issue is that they are nightmares to clean. So many moving parts, everything gets nasty and you better start your shift by autoclaving the thing. The o2 wrench works, but not always great - isolette under-mount o2 tanks are NOT easy for it, but it can do the job. I don't know why anyone would use the glass breaker. I've used it in testing on a wrecker car and it HURT. Even with bunker gloves. Get a keychain size spring loaded punch or a carbide metal punch. The ring cutter is worthless, I chowdered it immediately trying to cut mild steel wire (we have better ring cutter saws in the kit but I am a magician with dental floss anyways) and the seatbelt ripper is just a derp stupid tool when the scissors do the job. The ONE and only thing I say it does well is the carry system, the open/closed carry and adjustable belt clip are great. The pocket clip is too stiff to use regularly, and you don't want to out a dirty set of penny cutters in your pocket anyways. They also don't seem to be very corrosion resistant. I have cheap stamped cutters that didn't rust half as fast as these did. I keep them because they sorta still work on the first 2/3 of the blade (the rest doesn't bite anymore since the pivot is worn out, which happened within the first year) and the o2 wrench, plus the nice belt carry. But I hate them and would NEVER recommend anyone pay money for them. It pisses me off because they have kind of soured me on the Leatherman brand. Leatherman doesn't support them for shit and in YEARS since making them, they haven't addressed any of the design flaws, yet they keep selling them. I'm very interested in the SOG to be honest. The Leatherman is such a low bar to clear, I can't see how they could ever be worse.
This begs the question. If you hate them so much, why have you carried them for seven years? I have products that I have purchased which I ended up not liking. Either I would sell them or stop using them altogether.
@@txtoolcrib they were a gift from a partner, so I couldn't just get rid of them, and for the first couple years, Leatherman WOULD sharpen them, so even though they dulled fast, I could get the toothed edge freshened up. They still sort of work, so because of the phenomenal belt clip, I will pull them out for less critical work that I can suffer them chewing on, and they still work as an oxygen wrench. And I don't sell or give away things to people that I know are junk. The raptor is junk and Leatherman doesn't support it or it's users for a damn. Which is frustrating, because that belt carry is absolute genius and there's serious potential. As it is, your awesome overviews on so many multitools has convinced me to buy the SOG shears and their mini multi tool - SOG gives first responders 50% off, and the lifetime warranty is peace of mind. What woukd be absolutely killer, would be one of these shears to have replaceable blades. I'd love that. I'm curious if you've ordered a Toler tools union? I have one on the way eventually. Also wanted to thank you for your review on the roxon storm s801s. That little beast might be the most powerful "everyday" multi tool I've ever used. It goes on my belt next to the raptors, and once my powerpint waivers, will be retired to my car's emergency kit. That compound lever on the corkscrew is genius, giving a true waiter's friend. I wish corkscrews on multi tools were more common. I drink a lot of wine on vacation!
The SOG are more comfortable be far, however... I find that the blades on the sheer bend under extreme stress, and the blades move apart, this means it takes a lot longer to get through tough materials. I primarily use my sheers for utility purposes, not first aid, so the leatherman works better for me. It's a shame LM isn't backing these as good as they used to... LM used to be a great company but I fear they are following the pack when it comes to customer service. Also, 420 HC and 440HC just don't cut it anymore (get it) LM needs to update their steel if they want to keep charging premium prices...
The Leatherman is great. You can cut a full motorcycle jacket with it. That is the most useful feature I have needed the most at the ER. If the parashears are as well cutting, I might consider them in the future. Ergonomics don't count for me, performance does. As long as I do not have t o use the standard issue shit the hospital gives us. You are cutting some fucking cords with things to made to save people. Cut some actual motorcycle jacket, so we could actually see the difference. I know the Leatherman is better, because of the wider blade... 😏
It is my experience that pretty much without exception everything made by SOG is a total piece of garbage, I look forward to seeing what this review says
We bought our daughter the Raptor after she got her RN. She loves 'em, but no longer uses them in the ER. She doesn't need all the EMT tools in a facility. So we then got her a good set of standard shears with spring clip in the handle. Much more practical for her. She now carries the Raptor in her car emergency kit.
Get her X Shears, she will love them.
I have been meaning to try those.
I’m an RN and I agree, the x shears are way better for working in a hospital.
Most important questions for trauma shears, how difficult is it to clean dried blood, gunk, and trash from the joints and how often/easy is it to take apart, sharpen, and service?
Good luck cleaning these 😂
As a medic who uses the raptors...
Get friendly with your hospital's autoclave. The SOG looks like it should be reasonably clean-able but you will never get under the buttons on the raptors. They have to be autoclaved .
They also pretty much can't be taken apart (I have broken several star bits trying to budge the center bolt) and the toothed profile means that they can't really be sharpened without needle files. also, the thick blade means that as the pivot loosens over time, you can't straighten the blade like you could with the SOG.
Also, Leatherman has left me high and dry on support for it. I'm a very unhappy customer for the raptors after years of tolerating them. Toolcrib here's awesome video sold me on trying the parshears, which have a lifetime warranty and SOG offers 50% off for first responders.
@@colinmartin9797 I'd just carry a simple thick bladed one. And carry a leatherman or large victorinox in addition. Some things simply shouldn't be multitool.
@@LittleUrbanPrepper The only thing that the raptors had going for them was that absolutely perfect belt system. If leatherman just made a belt clip that held a standard pair of penny cutters like they do the raptors, I'd buy that thing in a heartbeat.
As it stands, the SOG have been easier to clean and more durable than the leatherman raptors. If a compact, folding trauma shear is important yo someone, I'd point them that direction.
You can take the raptors apart VERY easily to clean them and put them back together. You can also sharpen one of the blades on them (the smooth edged blade) but not the micro-serrated edge blade as the serrations are so tiny not even a needle file would be able to sharpen them. The good thing about the serrations though is that they grab the material you are trying to cut and prevent that material from “slipping” forward as you cut. That being said you can get them sharpened by leatherman. I will personally just sharpen the smooth side until they don’t cut anymore, then get them serviced by Leatherman.
The leatherman has kind of a small teeth on it's lower shear, that can hold on any threaded material while cutting plus the fact that leatherman shears are thicker which made it better to cut any rope like materials.
Yeah. Big thing is the cutting performance. You can even cut a full motocycle jacket, leather or not. That is the most important feature for me at the ER. Never used parashears, but the cutting blades look like the ones on the shit the hospital give us as standard issue. A guy cutting some cord with something made to save people is just silly.
SOG has teeth on lower cutting edge like the Raptor. But, that said, the SOG even with new added pocket clip model are just not touching LM. SOGs go on sale and are worth the $50 if you are saving money. I bought both, but most people can't (have a block in their mind where they think they can't making $50K/yr).
The SOG would be perfect if they beefed the cutters up and upgraded the glass cutter. The rest of it, strap cutter and pocket clip (newer model) is equal on clothing. I rolled towels up and leather. Both work well. The LM can be serviced though, while the SOG can't. SOG should forget the tool pack(awl, serrated micro blade, Phillip drive, and flat drive in an awkward use position to put a pivot screw on the cutters and making them thicker.
My fave test is 6 layers of wrangler denim and quality leather stock. My main use is wood veneer, but I doubt anyone outside a few people use them for that.
OH, SOG should have put their classic and fantastic "V-cutter" on Instead of a copy of the LM. V-Cutter is insanely good. Like reverse scissors not in motion.
Having compound leverage seems kinda gimicky when it's paired with the less rigid blades.
I agree.
In my mind these aren’t really the same tool. Similar. But the Raptors are very emergency response specific in their design, whereas the Parashears seem like they are meant for survival or all around EDC with those additional tools. I feel like they both have their place, but not the same place.
That’s a fair point.
I used the seatbelt cutter to cut a carpet once. It cut through the entire width of the carpet in one continuous pull. Like butter. I recorded it and showed some friends. I also cut a torqued tshirt and safety vest from a guy caught in some machinery. It was twisted and torqued so tightly that the guy was having a hard time breathing. We got shears to cut the twisted fabric but cheap shears were bending and separating. Unable to cut. My Leatherman shears cut through with a few pumps of the handle. Many guys saw how my shears performed now i see more and more Leatherman shears on their waists!!!
Trauma shears serve two main purposes, in my experience: cutting clothes off and cutting wound care supplies; tape, gauze, etc. Frankly, my raptor has been unused for 7 years because it doesn't fit well in my hands. Wiss scissors are a godsend though. They're sharp, inexpensive and cut through anything
They have one more purpose...
Cutting open a thorax🥴
@@nilsklemp5772 I guess the thoracotomy cart in our icu can be replaced by a pair of scissors
Sell me your raptors lmao
@@CarolinianBlades HEAL-S55-FX4-S36-SPL you can have my leatherman promo code
The Leatherman also goes well on a mollie carrier. I often use it in that configuration.
As a paramedic, the raptors win purely because of the ring cutter. The cutters we carry on the ambulance are horrible. It’s not the most common emergency, but the ring cutter on the raptors blow away any commercial cutter I’ve seen.
We're mulling over both of these for EMS week gifts. The Raptors are $79-plus, the SOG $63 with free shipping. For something that will be easy to lose on a chaotic scene in the dark. Like a crowded beach full of drunks like we have a few times a year. Regular trauma shears from somewhere in Asia are a dime a dozen. One of the helicopter services throws them out like pens and mouse pads. Few folks even carry anything remotely like a multi-tool. They're too cool to carry anything on a belt, especially females (you know its true). I can barely make the females on my shift wear a radio. Some kids tend to go into a house empty-handed. I stomp them like roaches (after the call). Some are almost too cool to carry their own pen or notecards, but always seem to need mine. A few younger guys have Raptors on those fire dept. radio slings, which are just another (but somehow cooler) version of the rookie batbelt that we like to laugh about. Yeah I have one, been using it 35 years. If you get to sleep at work and don't wear a radio sling or batbelt, its hard to keep low chute-times if you have to load up your pockets before getting out the door. The alternative is to sleep with hard items in your pockets, sleeping fully clothed. Losing a Raptor on a scene would be like losing a Littman stethoscope. Stuff grows legs and walks, especially pretty toys.
I'm a box medic and I vote for spending an extra $15 for the quality of the Leatherman; I use mine ALL the time and don't like to be on shift without it - also, the rookie batbelt thing is hilarious and at one point I was just as guilty of that as all of the newer guys but at this point in my career (almost 10 years), the only things I really need are a flashlight and my Raptor, my most-used tool. Also, I bought a bright baby blue Littman so I could easily recognize it as mine 😎 I haven't managed to lose it yet but I know what you're saying lol
I got the Raptor for Christmas and I love it.
I like the Raptor a lot.
Hands down leatherman wins, the SOG looks like it was ad-hoc put together with alot of tools that are useless for who it's made for. Also working EMS in the field and in a level 1 trauma center I have used the ring cutter many times, its a very useful tool.
That's very good to know, thanks for your insight.
I tried to use the ring cutter and actually broke the little corner for that purpose on my leatherman. Kinda bummed; they were expensive.
If it broke during the intended use, Leatherman will certainly replace it for you!
That ring cutter is absolutely essential in the field…and is used more often than you might think in hospital. Time is often essential.
When you need a ring cutter, you need it Right Now. (A jammed ring may trap someone in their burning vehicle, or it may cut off blood circulation to the finger. The first is a life or death problem. The second could cost someone his or her finger, if left untreated. Not to mention - a ring on a badly swollen finger is extraordinarily painful!) In any case, that feature is no afterthought. Leatherman intends it to work, to work well, and to work every time…under repeated use, for the life of the tool. Ask any medical professional, or any bench jeweler - some of whom are on call to deal with extreme cases. (You wouldn’t believe the dumb things some people try to do with rings. I’ll leave that to your imagination. You’ll probably guess right on the first try.)
In any case, it should never break during use. The company will want to know that it did; and they will probably thank you for telling them. (It’s most likely a problem in heat treatment, which could affect EMTs and ER Nurses who depend on their Raptors every day.)
I'm a box medic and I use my Raptor allllllllllll the time - it's my most frequently used tool when I'm at work
When cutting wire, try using the ring cutter on the back of the raptor. I have better results.
Thanks for the tip!
I have a Raptor and absolutely love it - I'm a FF/paramedic and use it almost daily
Good comparison, in fairness to the SOG's lack of pocket clip.... I have the Raptor and carry mine loose in my trouser pocket, so given that closed they have a similar sihouette the SOG could probably be used/carried in that manner. Again great video, cheers.
LEATHERMAN, THE BEST. THANKS.
My sister just got into the medical field an I think she'd love a pair of those,I'll get her a pair an probably some for my bugout bag
The leatherman also has a lifetime warranty on them where they will take care of any issue you have with them including sharpness. I’m not sure but I don’t think SOG offers that. But great partial review on both of the products.
This was an interesting video! The only raptors I have are the glowing twins. I haven’t used them for anything, however.
I love the Raptor Shears, use them all the time for cutting through rubber and industrial belt material on the job.
Former LEO and EMT here, and I can't imagine spending a ton of money on something that you're primarily gonna use in a confusing, hectic rapidly evolving situation where you're likely to lose them, or have them covered in someone else's bodily fluids...
I carried the inexpensive
I hear opinions both ways from first responders.
I see your point but I am careful to keep track of my equipment. I never really lost one but I have had people try to appropriate them in a hospital er...
@@txtoolcrib I am a paramedic and will never use the garbage $5 shears. I have both the xshear and raptor but i mainly carry the raptor on my person because the pocket carry ability with the clip is really compact and low profile. The cheap shears have failed too many times and hurt your fingers too because of how badly they cut, you have to squeeze excessively hard. I don't have time to trifle with POS shears and worry about whether I'm going to have to find a second pair of shears in the heat of treatment because the garbage pair wouldn't cut. If you have a nice pair of shears, you shouldn't lose them. You put it back where it came from after you use it, you don't just set them down or hand them to people without making sure you get it back immediately after they're done.
Does the SOG actually easier to cut compared to Raptor (due to the compound leverage on SOG).
You would think so, and I thought it would, but I didn’t feel any discernible difference.
TX Tool Crib thanks. Also, due to the compound leverage, don’t you need to open the handle more (on SOG) to get the shears blade open at the same opening as ones in Raptor?
@@Genesislights not this time, because the pivot for the blades is not at the same location as the pivot point for the compound leverage gears. So it opens up fairly quickly, which is why I believe you lose the benefit of the compound leverage to begin with.
@@txtoolcrib Thanks for the review. You've done a great job comparing the two.
Cool review this is the kind of thing I use my leatherman for thin plastics, rope, ties, they work fantastic
The price on the raptors has sky rocketed , it was $64 when it cam out now it’s closer to $100
Yeah, it's jumped up quite a bit.
Got mine for $59 on ebay a year ago
Rip off, just like most leatherman junk.
This was the best product review I’ve ever watched lol
Hey I was wondering if u could make a video about sharpening multitool knives and knives in general. My Swiss tech is dulling after about 2 months and I figure there is a video out there but I wanna hear it from u man.
The Lansky guided rod jig works well.
I was going to suggest/ask for a similar video. General maintenance for multi tools. I have particular trouble getting serrated blade and awl back in good shape after a tough job.
@@ryanf5503 I'm total newb to sharpening knives and I got the Lansky Blade Medic for $11 on Amazon. It has a diamond rod to sharpen serrations. Try getting the Blade Medic. Of course check some instructional videos on TH-cam to help out.
@@macgyverbryan1377 Thanks I'll check that out👍🏾
The leatherman does he also cut stainless ring?
No, only soft metals.
Can you cut wire with the ring cutter?
Easily
Note gold and silver rings only. Also copper wire, hard wire damages it.
My coworker is a SOG diehard, when he saw my Raptors he drooled over them, shortly thereafter the Paras came out and I told him about it and even HE considered them less that the Raptors.
Howdy do other Bryan with a Y.
I tend to agree.
How do you sharpen the shears?
Some employers might not allow the SOG because it has blades other than the shear, itself. I've worked in a few hospitals that would fire you for it.
Do you think either of these will cut the hard green poly strapping? I bout knipex electrician shears but they dont cut it that easily.
Check out the newest Parasheers from SOG. Pocket clip is well done. The lighter frame on clip is nice too.
How tight should the pivot on the Leatherman be? When I got mine I felt that it was unusually difficult to open and close the blades to make cuts. I tried loosening the pivot a bit but ran into issues with the blades separating and not cutting near the pivot, so I tightened it back up. I'm assuming there is meant to be a little play between the blades when they are fully open? The blades on my pair "meet up" around the 4cm mark on the ruler. Does anyone have any insight on what the "correct" pivot tightness should be on these?
If you seek tool to cut clothing you must check S-Cut tool family. They may not be the smallest, but they cut even thick clothes like butter.
No pocket clip on the paraschears are a deal breaker.
Pretty good video. However, for a "fair" comparison, you should have used the new Raptor shears instead of your old ones. I fully understand the reason for not doing that. But anything that the SOG "won" on, it could be that the SOG is better, or it could be that the Raptor needed sharpened.
As for the out of place tools on the SOG, I think they did that for marketing reasons. It doesn't matter that they are not very useful for this sort of tool, it allows them to call say the SOG has 11 tools.
That’s a good point, but I did intentionally. I was pretty sure the Leatherman was going to outclass the SOG from the get go. I may redo this later with the new version.
What is the difference between the old and new Raptor shears?
Warranty wins with Leatherman. NQA make it right. The look at parasheers was interesting though.
That’s a good point, Leatherman warranties are hard to beat.
I was looking forward to this.
Hopefully it lived up to expectations.
I like the raptor sheers better.
I like the parashears. As a firefighter/EMT I like how there’s a O2 key. I’ll always have a key and never have to find one. It’s perfect for what I need and use it. Personally I don’t believe there’s a best. There’s good for what you need it for. Good review
Thers a 02 opener on the raptor too
go to medic school and I promise you you'll use the shears way more often and yeah, the Raptor has a O2 key as well, integrated with the seatbelt cutter
can they cut toliet tissues?
Yeah. As of 08/22/2023 the price of the Leatherman Raptor is $99.00 Plus Your States Sales tax. Still worth it, as these shears are top notch. They will do what they are designed to do. I would recommend them to anyone serious about Trauma Shears.
SOG making a cheaper knock off but charging more? They should take those useless extra "features" off and undercut Leatherman's price significantly.
The leatherman is right handed and the SOG appears to be ambidextrous!
you can carry a spring loaded window breaker they are very slim, like a pen
Love my Raptor for cutting ranger bands. Works great for EDC. Keep up the great vids!!!
comfort doesn't really matter because it takes less than a minute to cut the cloth. it you're cutting the clothes of 5-6-10 people then comfort is important
Fair point.
Am I the only one that cant invest a lot in shears because they just tend to grow legs and walk away?
I bought the Leatherman Raptor the week they hit the market. Had it sitting in the side pocket of my drivers door on my truck. I took my truck in to get an alignment. When I got my truck back I noticed that they were gone. I about had a come apart with the manager. After about a 20 minute rant, the mechanic magically found them on the ground. Apparently, they had “fallen” out of the truck door when he got in it. Uh huh 🤔!
@@txtoolcrib I have a Console Vault in two of my vehicles. Have had a few things stolen out of my truck before. A valet attendant stole my brand new digital camera once. And have been broken into a couple of times. So now, anything valuable goes in there, especially when it’s not parked at work or at home.
The Leatherman is a winner any day. The SOG is a lighter weight tool and has gimmicky features.
Insane tool from Leatherman!!!
I learned the hard way you don't use either of these for cutting cardboard; you use the Skeletool instead, which so far has not let me down yet, especially with its Bit Kit which only adds functionality.
I used to work in a restaurant and would regularly use my Raptor for cutting open cardboard boxes, well over time that caused problems with both the screw and somehow part of the handle too. MAYBE I got a lemon (that does happen) but when Leatherman themselves acknowledges at least one design flaw and then OMITS FEATURES from their "redesign", that's a problem.
You need aviation snip to cut cut cardboard.
Great comparison. Thanks
Always appreciate your views, thank you.
Very useful comparison. Thanks.
Absolutely, thank you for watching.
U forgot to mention that it has a ring cutter
Sog screwed me over I will never buy another one of there products ever again their dead to me
Goodness, what happened?
I too will not have their products. Long story short CS let me down on a simple warranty. Leatherman just makes it right, every time.
Almost the same as macgyver bryan I bought a knife from them last year and not even 20 min into owning it the pocket clip turned into the handle of the knife destroyed the pocket clip slot by deforming the g10 scales or whatever it was made of and snapped the clip. Long story short most of there knives ive found only have a single screw holding the pocket clip on which causes a pivot point. Ive never seen this on "quality" knives I own crkt buck kershaw and they all use 2 screws to hold there clips on. Sog denied any warranty or replacement or guarantee it wouldn't happen again
@@rockstarfan886 I had an issue with a tool on a MT. I asked just to replace only that tool, they said it had to be purchased. Used to Leatherman NQA warranty. They begrudgingly sent it after almost pleading. It was traded for something. Almost too bad it was was fun flipping it. The Free P4 is just as fun.
@@txtoolcrib Check out oneshear.com there affordable with no gimmicks and super sharp I bought a pair a few weeks ago for my myfak
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The video where it shows the ineffectiveness of the glass break on the SOG.... when it comes to such tool, it's never meant to move or it will just close on itself like what was shown on the video.
When you cut the rope that was thick the red rope when you use the sog you were cutting the Rope towards the far end of the blades. When you use the Raptor you cut nearer to the pivot of the two blades which is always going to cut better than if you go farther out near the end of the blades. I think that was very biased I'm not sure what to think. You seem to already have your mind made up that raptor is going to be better than a sog
Thats probably because it is... Just sayin"
The so called rope or seat belt cutter is completely useless tool for any multitool. I could only see little use for anglers and only when it is always accessible ie outside. Your very good presentation showed it clearly. It is much easier to cut the seat belt or rope with shears or serrated blade like on Victorinox RescueTool.
They cut rolled gauze very well, same thing with Paracord. And yeah, it's kinda dumb to have it on a layperson's multi-tool, but it doesn't have a risk of accidentally cutting the patient like a serrated blade.
Manufacturers of Leatherman Raptor and SOG Parascessers should donate their items for review to the ocean-conservation-namibia. What better way to test both scissors under salt water, sand conditions while cutting off different sizes of fishing lines entangled on the seal while holding down a scared, angry wild seal. So far I have seen them only Leatherman Raptor type used to the the fishing lines. This is an actual field test.
Well they aren't designed for that and will rust immediately
Great video Sir and thanks
Absolutely, thank you for watching.
Try cutting through coins with the SOG. I know Leatherman can split a quarter clean in two with enough strength.
Do the X shears
The Raptor hands down.
Резак Raptor больше подходит для резки стропы, нежели резак SOG. Скругленный профиль может загибать край стропы.
Спасибо за сравнение
SOG in the open position inside the case still exposes the blade... Kinda no point to carry it tat way when you are likely to soil, or knock it on yourself or someone else in that exposed manner.
This test would have been interesting while wearing the thin nitrile gloves that most medics wear and compare the damage to the gloves after testing. It seems like the locking mechanisms of the SOG would destroy the gloves easily. The ability to clean the tool as well as the sheath on the Leatherman would be a major plus from a medical use point of view. The addition of a bottle opener to every multitool seems like pure insanity to me. If I had a multi purpose tool with no bottle opener I can guarantee you I could open a bottle using one of the other tools.
You’re right, that would have been an excellent test. Wish I had thought about that.
@@txtoolcrib You can always try a Part 2 competition with gloves on video? 😁
Great comparison. Thank you!
You’re quite welcome. Thank you for watching.
Leatherman blows it away!
Great stuff, as ever 👍👍
Thanks. Appreciate you taking the time to watch.
Excellent video!
Great video.
Just leatherman raptor 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪👌👍
Victorinox all the way icanc Swiss made work of art👌
Would be nice if they made one in this style.
To me, this is a no brainer. Common sense to me since Victorinox's blend of stainless is so corrosion resistant. I see no excuse for Victorinox not making a full size set of scissors or trauma sheers. With the way people go nuts over mirror polish officer Swiss steel. I can't imagine why this product wouldn't be graciously received by consumers. I bet Diezelle57 and Ben would be first in line to get ahold of a Raptor style Victorinox. Even if it was a Fiskar sewing sheer type of scissor from Victorinox. I could definitely see Ben Jonesing to get a set for himself. 😆
For sure!
I used the Raptors on my years of fire service and I loved them. Things pretty much cut through anything i had to get through. Jeans, leather boots, thick jackets and so on. After a while though i did notice they sort of dulled out a little so they’re just sitting in a drawer. But i would still recommend that tool to ANYONE wether its for Duty or EDC. Well worth it
Pull those shears, box them and send that tool back to Leatherman; Your throwing away money by not
getting a factory-fix!
Seen nuff! Leatherman for the win!
Leatherman? SOG? From my experience with multi tools I’m going with Leatherman.
sog seems like cool kids would like it more because it looks fancy but i am not cool or kid and i understand fancy look isnt for me so i know what i am going to buy
Raptor for me. Love that tool
Get yourself some Knipex pliers edc. Scissors for wire cutting?! The right tool for the job. Wonders why they’re dull …
I have plenty of Knipex products. I also don’t generally use the Raptor for cutting wire, which it can handle with ease by the way. Finally, mine are slightly dull because I use them.
Leatherman Raptor rusts with continued use. Can anyone tell me if the SOG parashears rusts with use.
tajam bersinar
Know this is a year late... from my experience in USR, the raptors are better at the heavier materials: boot leather, laces, upolstery, and different cordage.
Namibia Ocean Team drops the shears constantly in sand . Sand in the SOG mechanics , what a horrible
I've been using a raptor as a medic for about 7 years
I fucking hate it.
For starters, the ergos on the raptor are utter dogshit. Trying to get through a motorcycle rider's full suit with them is absolute agony. Hotspots everywhere. I can hand on heart say they're the most uncomfortable penny cutters I have ever used.
Second, they don't keep an edge very well. They also have a really weak pivot that eventually works enough play into the blade that it doesn't close no matter what, and the torx fasteners might as well be rivets. The thick ass blade makes them very not maneuverable in the material you're cutting, particularly motorcycle leathers through CE padding.
Leatherman won't even fucking sharpen them anymore. You can't even PAY them to sharpen them, and sharpening the teeth is a bitch, requires some tiny needle files and a vise.
The other issue is that they are nightmares to clean. So many moving parts, everything gets nasty and you better start your shift by autoclaving the thing. The o2 wrench works, but not always great - isolette under-mount o2 tanks are NOT easy for it, but it can do the job.
I don't know why anyone would use the glass breaker. I've used it in testing on a wrecker car and it HURT. Even with bunker gloves. Get a keychain size spring loaded punch or a carbide metal punch.
The ring cutter is worthless, I chowdered it immediately trying to cut mild steel wire (we have better ring cutter saws in the kit but I am a magician with dental floss anyways) and the seatbelt ripper is just a derp stupid tool when the scissors do the job.
The ONE and only thing I say it does well is the carry system, the open/closed carry and adjustable belt clip are great. The pocket clip is too stiff to use regularly, and you don't want to out a dirty set of penny cutters in your pocket anyways.
They also don't seem to be very corrosion resistant. I have cheap stamped cutters that didn't rust half as fast as these did.
I keep them because they sorta still work on the first 2/3 of the blade (the rest doesn't bite anymore since the pivot is worn out, which happened within the first year) and the o2 wrench, plus the nice belt carry. But I hate them and would NEVER recommend anyone pay money for them.
It pisses me off because they have kind of soured me on the Leatherman brand. Leatherman doesn't support them for shit and in YEARS since making them, they haven't addressed any of the design flaws, yet they keep selling them.
I'm very interested in the SOG to be honest. The Leatherman is such a low bar to clear, I can't see how they could ever be worse.
This begs the question. If you hate them so much, why have you carried them for seven years? I have products that I have purchased which I ended up not liking. Either I would sell them or stop using them altogether.
@@txtoolcrib they were a gift from a partner, so I couldn't just get rid of them, and for the first couple years, Leatherman WOULD sharpen them, so even though they dulled fast, I could get the toothed edge freshened up.
They still sort of work, so because of the phenomenal belt clip, I will pull them out for less critical work that I can suffer them chewing on, and they still work as an oxygen wrench.
And I don't sell or give away things to people that I know are junk. The raptor is junk and Leatherman doesn't support it or it's users for a damn. Which is frustrating, because that belt carry is absolute genius and there's serious potential.
As it is, your awesome overviews on so many multitools has convinced me to buy the SOG shears and their mini multi tool - SOG gives first responders 50% off, and the lifetime warranty is peace of mind.
What woukd be absolutely killer, would be one of these shears to have replaceable blades. I'd love that.
I'm curious if you've ordered a Toler tools union? I have one on the way eventually.
Also wanted to thank you for your review on the roxon storm s801s. That little beast might be the most powerful "everyday" multi tool I've ever used. It goes on my belt next to the raptors, and once my powerpint waivers, will be retired to my car's emergency kit. That compound lever on the corkscrew is genius, giving a true waiter's friend. I wish corkscrews on multi tools were more common. I drink a lot of wine on vacation!
The SOG are more comfortable be far, however... I find that the blades on the sheer bend under extreme stress, and the blades move apart, this means it takes a lot longer to get through tough materials.
I primarily use my sheers for utility purposes, not first aid, so the leatherman works better for me.
It's a shame LM isn't backing these as good as they used to...
LM used to be a great company but I fear they are following the pack when it comes to customer service.
Also, 420 HC and 440HC just don't cut it anymore (get it)
LM needs to update their steel if they want to keep charging premium prices...
nice review
Thank you.
@@txtoolcrib just ordered a raptor with red handle. lol
I think you’re going to like it. Let me know once you’ve had a chance to use it.
@@txtoolcrib will do. i just bought a new xe6 (discountinued) but managed to get my hands on one. Its like a larger version of the ES4 / PS4
Thnxs 4 sharing
Only Raptor. all the others don't come even close.
Cool.
The Leatherman is great. You can cut a full motorcycle jacket with it. That is the most useful feature I have needed the most at the ER. If the parashears are as well cutting, I might consider them in the future. Ergonomics don't count for me, performance does. As long as I do not have t o use the standard issue shit the hospital gives us. You are cutting some fucking cords with things to made to save people. Cut some actual motorcycle jacket, so we could actually see the difference. I know the Leatherman is better, because of the wider blade... 😏
why i think you praising sog parashears so much
Credit where credit is due, the ergonomics are better on the SOG.
Good test👌
Thank you.
Really? I am a Paramedic !!!’I broke plenty of windows with My SOGs.!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plus you don’t want to put bloody shears in your pockets.
Buy the American made Leatherman!
If you don’t your a fu@king commie scum bag
clearly Leatherman isnt as good on nylon
vídeo muito bom
It is my experience that pretty much without exception everything made by SOG is a total piece of garbage, I look forward to seeing what this review says
You compared old against new...not good. Not subscribing to channel.
I got my raptor rescue for FREE i found them camping 🏕 🙌
Sweet.