KISS were great from 1974 until 1978. The movie and the solo albums were ok, but coming back with colors and singing disco?...thank God Van Halen was already rockin'
@@FrehleyFan3988 their egos did not make KISS toxic. The drug addiction of Peter and Ace made things toxic. Paul and Gene carried KISS. They worked their asses off while Peter and Ace kept doing drugs and basically collected millions of dollars from the hard work that Paul and Gene did.
@@therealslimshady4129 Look, some people think they ditched him in his hour of need! Maybe in a business sense they did, BUT they had a deadline, (sic) to meet, & Eric, (may he RIP) wasn't up to it as he was too ill! They looked AFTER him! They got him to DO the GGRNR2U vid, while he was still having cancer treatment! They always HOPED he'd recover, but he didn't!
Getting pissed over a rock shirt is rather petty. But it is fun to see their true egos come out. Gene and paul are so full of crap, all they'll do is boast or talk crap on Ace and peter. As for the way they treated eric carr, that's just messed up. Eric was the probably the most hardworking of kiss, he would hang out with the fans, go to ends of the earth for gene and paul, and when eric got cancer? Fired him, let him do one last song, and that was it. Oh yeah they defended him on howard stern. 2 years later.
Yeah I saw that kiss interview it was ridiculous if they were so worried about him not wearing a kiss T-shirt why didn’t they wear one? and what tgey did to Eric was messed up as well
@joehobbs3277 for real. And if they were really that concerned, they could've offered the guy a kiss shirt to make things better, but nooo they'd be losing money. And tommy thayer and eric singer just standing there not even defending the guy, both being a couple of KISS asses otherwise they'd get fired or chewed out for not having gene and Paul's side.
@@whatnotandstuff exactly at least ace and Peter aren’t scared to call them out on there BS that’s the reason they weren’t on the so called fairwell tour plus they’d have upstaged gene and Paul no question and as for ace not being able to play a full set that’s stupid he’s being doing just that since he left and he’s released a ton of good stuff over the years and ask kiss have been doing is playing the same set list for years
I enjoy Kiss’ music quite a lot, and have been to see them 5 times and loved it. I can be a fan of the band and still acknowledge that Paul and Gene have had a history of some serious greedy, douchebag moves
you don't show up to interview KISS or any band for that matter, wearing another band's T-shirt and expect it to go smooth. it's disrespectful and also shows a severe lack of common sense.
Their music is quite good , most people dont give them a chance. Thank god 50 plus years later and 150 million albums sold and the band with most gold records ever proved everyone Wrong ! Some of your favorite bands either opened for kiss or were influenced by kiss. Like kiss or not, kiss remains one of the biggest and most influential bands of all time
So many - SO many famous musicians since the late 70's, many of whom were/are considered to be the master-class of rock and other genres, have cited KISS as the main influence in their starting in music. Whatever aspect of the band it was that motivated the greats of 80's, 90's, 00's... that is a clear example of iconic. I was an early fan up until the Elder. After that, I had moved on to lots of other musical styles. But it's really hard to think of any other band that gave so much to the audience when you went to see them live. I understand that, in recent years, there's been a question of 'live'. It's a huge disgrace what has happened to live performance and even recorded music in the past couple of decades. I can only wonder that soon, no one will have the slightest idea what a true live performance is supposed to be if called "live". A meme I saw recently was of a guy on stage with a macbook in front of a crowd - caption read; "come see my laptop LIVE!". Would that that was only just a funny joke. Alas, it is not. Now we are getting hologram shows. Absolutely NOTHING live about that. Why would ANYONE ever pay money to go see a stage show that is nothing more than what they could download on their computer for pocket change (or free)? Autotune. Autotime. Autopitch. Autoperformance. Automusic. Who needs talented musicians or singers any more?
Seems to me that Gene Simmons has a bad habit of putting his mouth in motion before putting his brain in gear. I thought his statements regarding depression, suicide & mental illness were offputting & unnecessary. He's never learned that money makes a great servant, but a lousy master (I'm paraphrasing) What a schmuck!
PS: Just a thought - I've heard it said that the love & adoration fans give rock & roll bands is as potent as any street drug - maybe more so. This would partially explain why some bands keep performing, even when it's obvious that they should've hung it up long ago.
This is why you don't help ppl., especially bands that are starting out. Same thing happened to few ppl. that helped out Motley Crue in the early stages. Once they gotten signed to Electra, they were dropped and never were seen again.
They havnt recorded anything decent in over 40 years, they denied fans 2 new characters instead they put 2 shadow puppets in original members characters, Tommy and Eric should have been in their own character it would have brought a whole new era to the band who only recorded 2 tragic albums in over 20 years? Tommy and Eric were only in the band to keep gene and Paul touring and making millions of dollars
4:22 it’s funny they’re mad about an iron maiden shirt. Iron Maiden is a way better band than kiss. I do like a few kiss songs so I’m not a complete hater but iron maiden is a lot better.
I had those comic books, but sold them on eBay when I retired and moved. I was a huge KISS fan when I was a kid in the 70s, but over time things changed. Their lineup kept changing, and they went on too long. My first concert was KISS/Plasmatics in 82 at Cobo Hall in Detroit. They had already replaced Ace & Peter. I saw them a few times before the original band got back together, and I was at the opener at Tiger Stadium in 96, then went to the show in Cleveland a few weeks later. But when I saw them in 2014, they looked like old men in drag. And they went another 10 years. They should have stopped with the makeup & outfits 20 years ago.
I am so happy to have lived through and loved KISS from their inception until their end. We have a 3 generation KISS loving family and have seen them live 11 times and I did meet Paul Stanley.
Sounds like whoever wrote this, and/or narrated this, is either jealous or envious. If people choose to like and and follow KISS-that’s great. If you choose not to, that’s fine too. But how many musicians, actors, and/or artists-spoke or acted the same way? Everyone has the right to choose what they like, and don’t like. But, if you are going to point out the flaws and errors of KISS, you better point out the flaws and errors of every other band, actor, and artist. This story sounds like it is coming from a jealous, envious, person-who is upset that someone else became successful-even if you don’t agree with how they became successful.
Even worse than Christeen Sixteen...or should I say just as bad...In the lyrics of Makin' Love, Paul Stanley sings...'Red light green light, don't say no. She says stop, baby Go Go Go...Ah, Mr. Stanley...That's rape.
@@88kwthomas Nope you got me all wrong. I'm just commenting to his comments about Christeen 16. Truth is, I think Makin Love is a great song...especially tripping. The echo and the repetition of guitars made me feel like I was on a carnival ride. This was many years ago. Anything KISS did before 1979 was great stuff. So, do you judge everyone like you just judged me? Sounds to me like the cancel culture police...is you!
Former KISS manager Bill Aucoin said later that the KISS blood actually went into 'Sports Illustrated' as the printing press was not set up to do the comic, but was in fact set up for that months issue of 'Sports Illustrated'.😂😂
Stanley and Simmons... not very good guys!!! Sorry, they are pathetic human beings ! Having so many money and to be so sad , so not happy , so empty inside !
Yeah And they sold their songs in stores and still do even on computers, and lots of grungers and metallers and protests rockers hold them in esteem and re- record their songs on tribute albums, they bamboozled damn near everyone!!!!!
I saw them in 1973 as the back up band for Manfred Man and the Earth Band. Thought they were so ridiculous! Make up, spitting blood levitating drum kit…and that tongue! Never so shocked to see that they made it big 🤯. Some people’s children🤷♀️
Cancel the only band in existence has ever had existed since the early seventies.. out of the hundreds of concerts I saw between 1971 in 1997 kiss is the only concert. And the only band that myself in probably around a thousand people walked out halfway through the show shaking their heads going this is not what we want.. in this was back in 1976.. just was it created conundrum by the record labels in order to create something out of nothing which completely failed genuine rockers of excellent rock and roll will always consider this band an absolute failure. And every word or sense of the word or phrase that compiles and relates to true meaning of what rock and roll is. Compared to all of the great Rock acts that I had ever seen in my lifetime... Myself in tens of thousands of others considered kiss a true blemish on what was supposed to be a 305 year venture into the finest of musical entertainment..
Never liked them. All flash, music wasn't even good. Gene and Paul'd sell anything to make a buck. They're thankfully outdated, now. Maybe next I hear of 'em it'll be because one of 'em are going in the ground.
Oh sure, now name all your current favorite bands/artists that mention Kiss as one of their main influences 😂 Yes Simmons and Stanley are a pair of douchebags, but their influence is undeniable 😉
What do you think of KISS?
They ROCKED, but were highly dysfunctional!
Probably WHY it worked for the most part!
MOST bands have some SORT of dysfunctionality!
I like most of the music up to 1983. After that they haven't released many good albums.
KISS were great from 1974 until 1978. The movie and the solo albums were ok, but coming back with colors and singing disco?...thank God Van Halen was already rockin'
Amazing band !🤘🏻
🗑️
Gene and Paul’s egos made kiss toxic as hell. No wonder Peter got pissed at them all the time, and when ace frehley left
@@FrehleyFan3988 their egos did not make KISS toxic. The drug addiction of Peter and Ace made things toxic. Paul and Gene carried KISS. They worked their asses off while Peter and Ace kept doing drugs and basically collected millions of dollars from the hard work that Paul and Gene did.
You totally forgot what they did to Eric Carr, they literally kicked him out of the band for getting cancer and didn’t even go see him before he died
Poor riri
LIES!
@@DMSProduktions oh okay sorry lol
@@therealslimshady4129 Look, some people think they ditched him in his hour of need!
Maybe in a business sense they did, BUT they had a deadline, (sic) to meet, & Eric, (may he RIP) wasn't up to it as he was too ill!
They looked AFTER him!
They got him to DO the GGRNR2U vid, while he was still having cancer treatment!
They always HOPED he'd recover, but he didn't!
@@DMSProduktionsGene and Paul were shunned by Carr's family at his funeral. Even Pawl Thanley of Kith admitted it
Getting pissed over a rock shirt is rather petty. But it is fun to see their true egos come out. Gene and paul are so full of crap, all they'll do is boast or talk crap on Ace and peter. As for the way they treated eric carr, that's just messed up. Eric was the probably the most hardworking of kiss, he would hang out with the fans, go to ends of the earth for gene and paul, and when eric got cancer? Fired him, let him do one last song, and that was it. Oh yeah they defended him on howard stern. 2 years later.
Yeah I saw that kiss interview it was ridiculous if they were so worried about him not wearing a kiss T-shirt why didn’t they wear one? and what tgey did to Eric was messed up as well
@joehobbs3277 for real. And if they were really that concerned, they could've offered the guy a kiss shirt to make things better, but nooo they'd be losing money. And tommy thayer and eric singer just standing there not even defending the guy, both being a couple of KISS asses otherwise they'd get fired or chewed out for not having gene and Paul's side.
@@whatnotandstuff exactly at least ace and Peter aren’t scared to call them out on there BS that’s the reason they weren’t on the so called fairwell tour plus they’d have upstaged gene and Paul no question and as for ace not being able to play a full set that’s stupid he’s being doing just that since he left and he’s released a ton of good stuff over the years and ask kiss have been doing is playing the same set list for years
I’m not the biggest kiss fan but Gene and Paul are ranked low on my list of best kiss members
Christeen Sixteen is Matt Gaetz's ringtone.
I enjoy Kiss’ music quite a lot, and have been to see them 5 times and loved it. I can be a fan of the band and still acknowledge that Paul and Gene have had a history of some serious greedy, douchebag moves
you don't show up to interview KISS or any band for that matter, wearing another band's T-shirt and expect it to go smooth. it's disrespectful and also shows a severe lack of common sense.
It’s all smoke and mirrors. They really ride that wave thanks to some very good marketing and self promotion.
Their music is quite good , most people dont give them a chance. Thank god 50 plus years later and 150 million albums sold and the band with most gold records ever proved everyone Wrong ! Some of your favorite bands either opened for kiss or were influenced by kiss. Like kiss or not, kiss remains one of the biggest and most influential bands of all time
🙌🏽
Not for me😂 Stopped listening to kiss in the 70s. Ace was kinda cool though. The music never really connected with me.
Ya I loved KISS when I was 12. Then I grew up
So many - SO many famous musicians since the late 70's, many of whom were/are considered to be the master-class of rock and other genres, have cited KISS as the main influence in their starting in music. Whatever aspect of the band it was that motivated the greats of 80's, 90's, 00's... that is a clear example of iconic.
I was an early fan up until the Elder. After that, I had moved on to lots of other musical styles. But it's really hard to think of any other band that gave so much to the audience when you went to see them live. I understand that, in recent years, there's been a question of 'live'. It's a huge disgrace what has happened to live performance and even recorded music in the past couple of decades. I can only wonder that soon, no one will have the slightest idea what a true live performance is supposed to be if called "live". A meme I saw recently was of a guy on stage with a macbook in front of a crowd - caption read; "come see my laptop LIVE!". Would that that was only just a funny joke. Alas, it is not.
Now we are getting hologram shows. Absolutely NOTHING live about that. Why would ANYONE ever pay money to go see a stage show that is nothing more than what they could download on their computer for pocket change (or free)?
Autotune. Autotime. Autopitch. Autoperformance. Automusic. Who needs talented musicians or singers any more?
Worked on Ace's chimney this past summer at his NJ lakehouse. Didnt meet em though : (
Seems to me that Gene Simmons has a bad habit of putting his mouth in motion before putting his brain in gear. I thought his statements regarding depression, suicide & mental illness were offputting & unnecessary. He's never learned that money makes a great servant, but a lousy master (I'm paraphrasing) What a schmuck!
PS: Just a thought - I've heard it said that the love & adoration fans give rock & roll bands is as potent as any street drug - maybe more so. This would partially explain why some bands keep performing, even when it's obvious that they should've hung it up long ago.
It must be said that they made a very good impression, but the music was only average.
One of the best shows ever live Oct 31 1996 Irvine Meadows
This is why you don't help ppl., especially bands that are starting out. Same thing happened to few ppl. that helped out Motley Crue in the early stages. Once they gotten signed to Electra, they were dropped and never were seen again.
The behind-the-scenes drama of KISS is absolutely wild
They havnt recorded anything decent in over 40 years, they denied fans 2 new characters instead they put 2 shadow puppets in original members characters, Tommy and Eric should have been in their own character it would have brought a whole new era to the band who only recorded 2 tragic albums in over 20 years? Tommy and Eric were only in the band to keep gene and Paul touring and making millions of dollars
Rock Music is not dead - Rock STARDOM is dead.
Silly Silly Senior Citizens.
Funny how people can twist facts to make a story sound anyway that they want it. You should do something on your own to get attention to your channel.
4:22 it’s funny they’re mad about an iron maiden shirt. Iron Maiden is a way better band than kiss. I do like a few kiss songs so I’m not a complete hater but iron maiden is a lot better.
Legends. period. Somehow through all the absurdity, it just worked.
I had those comic books, but sold them on eBay when I retired and moved. I was a huge KISS fan when I was a kid in the 70s, but over time things changed. Their lineup kept changing, and they went on too long. My first concert was KISS/Plasmatics in 82 at Cobo Hall in Detroit. They had already replaced Ace & Peter. I saw them a few times before the original band got back together, and I was at the opener at Tiger Stadium in 96, then went to the show in Cleveland a few weeks later. But when I saw them in 2014, they looked like old men in drag. And they went another 10 years. They should have stopped with the makeup & outfits 20 years ago.
I am so happy to have lived through and loved KISS from their inception until their end. We have a 3 generation KISS loving family and have seen them live 11 times and I did meet Paul Stanley.
Messed up and rich..I'd love to have that problem.
real hilarious, no one said shit about Christine Sixteen in the 70’s, but now the woke are losing their minds over it..
Sounds like whoever wrote this, and/or narrated this, is either jealous or envious. If people choose to like and and follow KISS-that’s great. If you choose not to, that’s fine too. But how many musicians, actors, and/or artists-spoke or acted the same way? Everyone has the right to choose what they like, and don’t like. But, if you are going to point out the flaws and errors of KISS, you better point out the flaws and errors of every other band, actor, and artist. This story sounds like it is coming from a jealous, envious, person-who is upset that someone else became successful-even if you don’t agree with how they became successful.
Amen brother 👍
Their messed up reality is that they made it anywhere
They set the bar for live performance
Even worse than Christeen Sixteen...or should I say just as bad...In the lyrics of Makin' Love, Paul Stanley sings...'Red light green light, don't say no. She says stop, baby Go Go Go...Ah, Mr. Stanley...That's rape.
That's from Makin' Love.
Making’ Love
@@JeffreyBoldt Yep, it was Makin love..I'm editing my repy right now.
here we go, cancel culture police
@@88kwthomas Nope you got me all wrong. I'm just commenting to his comments about Christeen 16. Truth is, I think Makin Love is a great song...especially tripping. The echo and the repetition of guitars made me feel like I was on a carnival ride. This was many years ago. Anything KISS did before 1979 was great stuff. So, do you judge everyone like you just judged me? Sounds to me like the cancel culture police...is you!
Why do Kiss fans allow this? Maybe boycott the band or throw water bottles.
Oh no! Out in the cold KISS? Oh no!!!!!!!!
They dress in makeup and leather… they have kids books…. Some people would protest them but…
It seems [Paul has decided to stick with that Helmet style haircut for the rest of his days lol
Gene Simmons criticizing Michael Jackson for sleeping with little boys… Thats rich
Interesting your defending a multiple accused child predator... You must be sick in the head
Simmons and Stanley. Really?!!!!!
I like Ace Frelli.
AHBAH? Seriously?
Former KISS manager Bill Aucoin said later that the KISS blood actually went into 'Sports Illustrated' as the printing press was not set up to do the comic, but was in fact set up for that months issue of 'Sports Illustrated'.😂😂
Stanley and Simmons... not very good guys!!! Sorry, they are pathetic human beings ! Having so many money and to be so sad , so not happy , so empty inside !
Kiss sucks!!!! They have 1 good songs! 1!!
9:09 😂
“To me Kiss was all about the music”
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Their music was 100% garbage
The best thing Kiss ever did was be a plot device in Detroit Rock City lmao
"Hard Luck Woman" was a decent song. They had a couple others.
I don't quite agree that their music is 100% garbage, but yeah, Detroit Rock City was an awesome movie lol
I'm interested more about what's not 100 percent garbage since one sentence was smiley faces on thet thar commiseration.
Yeah And they sold their songs in stores and still do even on computers, and lots of grungers and metallers and protests rockers hold them in esteem and re- record their songs on tribute albums, they bamboozled damn near everyone!!!!!
I saw them in 1973 as the back up band for Manfred Man and the Earth Band. Thought they were so ridiculous! Make up, spitting blood levitating drum kit…and that tongue! Never so shocked to see that they made it big 🤯. Some people’s children🤷♀️
you're a little old to be on youtube aren't you?
Kiss is a 🎪 show that plays rock and roll.
Kiss fans agree with racism and sexism..
I don't like kiss
Still watched
Most overrated band in rock history!
Cancel the only band in existence has ever had existed since the early seventies.. out of the hundreds of concerts I saw between 1971 in 1997 kiss is the only concert. And the only band that myself in probably around a thousand people walked out halfway through the show shaking their heads going this is not what we want.. in this was back in 1976.. just was it created conundrum by the record labels in order to create something out of nothing which completely failed genuine rockers of excellent rock and roll will always consider this band an absolute failure. And every word or sense of the word or phrase that compiles and relates to true meaning of what rock and roll is. Compared to all of the great Rock acts that I had ever seen in my lifetime... Myself in tens of thousands of others considered kiss a true blemish on what was supposed to be a 305 year venture into the finest of musical entertainment..
If you were attending concerts in 76 then you're too old to be on youtube.. Let alone watching videos on bands you hate so much
Never liked them. All flash, music wasn't even good. Gene and Paul'd sell anything to make a buck.
They're thankfully outdated, now. Maybe next I hear of 'em it'll be because one of 'em are going in the ground.
That's weird .. they have the 2nd highest grossing MTV Unplugged in history. Just in case you missed it... There was no flash..just acoustic music.
Oh sure, now name all your current favorite bands/artists that mention Kiss as one of their main influences 😂
Yes Simmons and Stanley are a pair of douchebags, but their influence is undeniable 😉
@AlanSmithee5150 doesn't mean they were any good. Spice girls in the 90s sold loads of records and they were beyond terrible
And yet you know who they are and you're here talking about them. If that isn't a sign of success, then what is?