If he is sacked and the players are sold, then that's fine. Shows that a rebuild is on the cards. But if he is sacked and all the players stay, im done with this team
They're getting rid of ANOTHER manager before most of these players. Where on gods green earth did you get any assumption they aren't going to be rid of said players any time soon.
Same. Im almost done supporting them for the past 25 years. We went through the worst this season and hoping next season would be good but i guess its getting worse and worse. INEOS and Glazzers are the same
Yeah this is what I think. Infact saying this early would have let everyone know Ten Hag is staying and killed all speculation. The fact that they haven't says a lot.
Just to throw it out there to these impatient lads - Gasperini won the Europa league with Atalanta in his 8 th season. 16/17 season he was appointed as the manager.
There's only 6 people at the club who are privy to what's happening with the manager. Are you seriously suggesting that Ineos have been briefing the players, the kit man, and the tea lady?
@@MuhammadAliA-r6hwell if a new manager comes in the players won't leave we need a manager for the long term to clear players. Switching managers just gives players a clean slate
@@johnhume4346 you obviously been watching a different man unt. for the last 5-10 years 👍👍👍 I think you forget the catastrophe of this season. FINISHING 8TH🤦 this manager gotta go and you also don't pat attention to the fact that I don't think it's just him , it's the squad , thses player do not care about the badge. I honestly don't know what you are seeing
I actually feel like mckena won't be much respected because most of those players are used to seeing him on another level so for him to succeed he will have to do a major clean up of older players like how arteta did with laca and auba..de zerbi seemed a better candidate according to me
@@gaara6292 Eh? What basic level of critical thinking are you employing here? He has the same agency as Shaw and Rashford, the same agency briefing against ten Hag and planting stories in the English media that he will happily return to United so long as ten Hag isn't manager. It is more difficult to argue that he hasn't had a role in getting rid of the manager than it is the other way around. I'm not interested in perennial victimhood from players or their flying monkeys online.
@@gaara6292so, the other journalists are binary, or whatever, what's your point about Sancho being at Dortmund? United ain't letting him got for anything less than 60 Million Euros and Dortmund have never spent more than 35 so yeah, his camp can still be dragging it
Would be good if the owners of the club announces their plans for the manager months ago... they are the reason there is all the question marks, no concrete direction from above leads to chaos underneath.
I feel like nobody knows, they’re all just putting out stories to look like they know what’s happening. The fact that even Fabrizio and Ornstein keep saying it’s 50/50 tells you all you need to know
As we saw with the Berrada appointment when even people high up at the club didn't know it was happening until it happened...Ineos aren't briefing anybody outside of the six. It's driving the media crazy because they aren't getting the usual leaks from the club. But, for sure, Ineos have been sounding out other managers and when you do that it's impossible to keep a lid on everything because you have the same third parties, agents and reps, talking to other clubs.
@creepingbrain Ashworth not there yet his behavior is disgusting you can have him another rat like ratcliff you should get a points deduction for your behavior
These people who have just arrived and looked at the players and decided to get rid of the manager...wow... we are in trouble/free fall...all on the day of a Final...only at Man Utd!!!
INEOS & Ratcliffe are a disgrace to the club; fans & ETH. The manner in which INEOS have treated ETH & fans prior to a cup final is destabilizing the team preporation. Disgrace.
Thanks for the service, ETH. Wishing you success at your new club. Thinking that you are ok although failed to qualify for the CL is probably a naivety on my part. It is clear if no CL, then you are fired.
I think United have no chance of raising any funds for a good summer transfer, so Ineos afraid of having another bad season are looking for a new manager bounce to save them! It’s sad because I know anywhere Ten Hag goes after United he will succeed
@@martinswift536 They are Glazer puppets! I never wanted them in the first place, won’t see a single comment from me saying otherwise! I wanted a full takeover not this BS. Get them gone.
All the people calling folk 'plastic'for saying that they've had enough are making a mockery of the reality of the situation that lies at the foundation of what this ONCE great club is built on.. people saying that they can no longer tolerate the undermining bs that is plaguing and destroying the real legacy of Manchester United.. it could be argued that in fact you are the 'plastics' by continuing to 'support' this illusion and general disregard of the fabric that made us what we were.. just like someone putting up with an abusive relationship, getting put down and ridiculed day in day out.. The Manchester United that you so dearly cling on to isn't actually there!
McKenna the man the players didn't like because his sessions were boring as manager . So now we have the glazers and ineos gutting the club to implement a yes man .
It's simple. Jose said there's still players here that he wanted to get rid of. Theres only a small handful of players still here from Joses era. I think we can easily narrow down some these problem players.
I think you've hit the nail on the head with that fact the change of mind has came because Chelsea want Mckenna and ineos don't want to lose the chance to sign Mckenna, if Mckenna said out right hes staying at Ipswich or Chelsea said they didn't want him. ETH staying another year which would suit ineos financially but having there hand forced
@@tonysmith3538 genuinely yeah unless we win the league I think they would make a change next summer regardless he wasn't appointed by ineos so once the structure behind the scenes fully up and running I think they would want there own person coaching the team
I think it's a very bizarre choice honestly. Mckenna has an impressive cv, but ten hag has a better one, so does Poch. Success at a championship club, doesn't equal success in the prem. This guys got no experience of managing a prem club, none whatsoever, just being second in command. Then you throw him into the deep end by giving him the roughest gig on the board. I hope I'm wrong, I might be a rival supporter, but I'm also a proud Englishman and don't think it's in the countries interest to see man u destroyed like this. But if its true, I'd say buckle up, it's probably gonna be a rough ride
Can’t think of the footballing circumstances that make sacking Ten Hag the right thing to do. If he goes, assuming there is nothing sinister that he has done which is not visible to fans, the most logical conclusion is that Ineos are not going to be what we need. Expect more of the same if they conclude the manager is the problem.
The future of Ten Hag has been a topic of discussion for months. He himself had not yet heard anything from the club management. "I hear that they want to change everything but want to build with me. At least that is what they say to me directly and what they express. I am and will remain combative. And I will notice what will or will not happen around it. That tends towards politics. And I cannot and do not want to be influenced by that." Dutch interview white erik
Love how Mark got so angry of me for calling out that "most win ratio" speech when we finished 8th, just hope that I won't get blocked for sharing an opinion contrary to his.
@@HarrisonLHolt My question to you is, when will Erik Ten Hag be accountable for the poor results? Mark mentions that the "culprits" are still here and it's their fault, if we were to get rid of Shaw, Rashford, etc. Will it be on Ten Hag's head then? Probably not. Mark will then say that Ten Hag wasn't given the players he wanted and it's INEOS fault, if it then comes to talent only instead of managerial skills, then what is the point of offering high wages on a senile manager like Ten Hag?
@@thehandsomeelba Erik ten hag will be accountable for poor results when the poor results are on Erik. The poor results this season are not on Erik ten hag solely. It is due to injuries, off field activities like sale of club, players refusing to play, not buying defenders when we needed that position desperately, lack of stability etc which are all not on ten hag. It is due to the poor structure around him . If you don't have the vision to see that then I don't know how you watch football. Last season, Liverpool didn't finish in the champions League position due to the severe injury crisis. Did you blame klopp for that? Did Liverpool fans want klopp sacked for that? It's basic common sense
If ten hag plays a young XI and we somehow win it would be the most dopest thing ever. Like no marcus no big ego players and we still win. We all man utd fans wanna see this idc if he keaves afterwards at least those pundits mouths would be shutted up.
I’m 50-50 on Ten Hag. Then I look at the list of his replacements and I get really worried. I like Mckenna, but he was in charge of our tactics under Ole. This plus his back to back promotions tells me he is too good for championship but not good enough for champions league! Mckenna is Ineos’ Graham Potter!
I hope this is thee master stroke of mind games and that ETH and the players are in on it so that City drops their guard and expect an unorganised, disjointed team!!! And then bang….. ETH has his players whistling along!
Ten Hag fell out with his players, the young and senior players alike. His team got dominated by every other opponent including Coventry. Mark is blinded by his issues with Rashford but Clearly Ten Hag has lost the faith of that team and he has to go.
The way y'all defend Ten Hag you would think he won us a Champions League the previous season like Tuchel did with Chelsea before being sacked. The guy has done nothing, accomplished nothing, no progression in two years Ange failed at the end but the progression is there, Emery immediately he took over Villa you could see where they were headed, the Bournemouth Manager, look at Glasner, Ten Hag has shown no progress at all with or without a Full Team.
It's only a 8 point gap to Villa with this huge mess. Stable Onana in the beginning and less injuries and top 4 would have been guaranteed. Remember when Liverpool had the injury crisis with Van Dijk.
@planetebeautecali4485 Your level of understanding shows your football language. Don't compare those clubs and their players with United and its players.
Just to throw it out there to these impatient lads - Gasperini won the Europa league with Atalanta in his 8 th season. 16/17 season he was appointed as the manager.
Not sure that Pep needs a 'heads up' to gain an advantage over our squad at the minute but It's a cup final, it's all to play for. The players need to go out and play for the badge, play for the fans and then, irrespective of the result, we'll concentrate on next season with players out and players in.
Ineos aren’t obligated to ETH. Furthermore, ETH along with the previous managers, enabled the very players that got them sacked. Sounds like his own fault.
I saw some people saying that player power is a lazy argument, but it is clear that they are the consistent issue at the club over the years. McKenna could be a good manager but the key word is could, so it's just another risk.
Let's not pretend that channels like this are not apart of the problem. Mark has spread more negativity about the club and it's players than the media has.
@Jhelil I think you'll find a lot more younger impressionable adults with their own social medias etc will watch channels like Mark's over listening to TalkSport on the radio. Let's not kid ourselves and act like Mark's channel doesn't have an impact
I actually feel like mckena won't be much respected because most of those players are used to seeing him on another level so for him to succeed he will have to do a major clean up of older players like how arteta did with laca and auba..de zerbi seemed a better candidate according to me
Some players we dont want will leave, some players we dont want will stay, because they have contracts and dont have to go anywhere, thats just how it works
@@Toldyaa Why was ten hags opinion wanted about a position above him? He should have been told this is the setup if you want the job then fine otherwise we will find another manager..... If they wanted ragnick in that position, let's be honest it was man U that wanted ragnick gone not ten hag and they wanted him gone cause he was honest about the club. Said it needed open heart surgery lol they got him out and put in some lip fillers 😂
@@JNRF5385 because ten hags contract has a lot of control in it . There’s no indication of the vultures wanting rangnick out . He was the interim manager , he wasn’t in line to be the next manager and the players didnt get him sacked . Its not relevant and mark clutches at straws
I personally feel a decision from INEOS on the manger situation will come after the game today. Because if United win and then they sack ETH it’s a really bad look but if we lose then it’s an easy and plausible decision that most fans would get behind
If we sack ETH we are doomed and all this media pile on is bulls***t and many fans want Man U to lose the final so that ETH is gone Some fans are unbelievable and have no idea about football I want ETH to stay and he will surely win the FA Cup and continue next season
I think the biggest worry is that whether he stays or he goes, I don’t think we have the time or the ability to clear out all the players that need to go, and as long as thats the case, we’ll end up back in the cycle of sacking managers sooner or later
Surely it's better if this guy goes ti Chelsea unt. Can see if he dose well there and get him in later... Anyways im alwys eth out because finishing 8 is unacceptable
If ETH leave then INEOS must pick McKenna, he's young and has a huge coaching potential, but most importantly he know the club he know the culture, he already has the DNA of Man United, it has to be him, not RDZ, not Poch, and definitely not that garbage Tuchel!
This man united the manager was waffling talking about hojlund injury he signed him when Watkins and Toney was in prem fullback Alvaro Fernandes reguilon had chance to stay
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If he is sacked and the players are sold, then that's fine. Shows that a rebuild is on the cards. But if he is sacked and all the players stay, im done with this team
They're getting rid of ANOTHER manager before most of these players. Where on gods green earth did you get any assumption they aren't going to be rid of said players any time soon.
Same. Im almost done supporting them for the past 25 years. We went through the worst this season and hoping next season would be good but i guess its getting worse and worse. INEOS and Glazzers are the same
I like ETH as a manager if we're doing a rebuild though, only players worth keeping imo are Garnacho, Bruno and Mainoo
Right there with you.
Lol all these people agreeing with you 😂 you guys said the same thing after LVG, Mourinho, Ole 😂 repeat repeat repeat. Clowns, enjoy the the new lows
If Ten Hag was staying it would be the easiest thing in the world for INEOS say so, that they haven't said this speaks volumes.
16\1 to be still in the job next season says it all
Yeah this is what I think. Infact saying this early would have let everyone know Ten Hag is staying and killed all speculation. The fact that they haven't says a lot.
Did they say anything when the Southgate rumor came lol ... ineos has too.much to get done instead all thos rubbish
Top 4 is ten hag aim we are man united
Just to throw it out there to these impatient lads - Gasperini won the Europa league with Atalanta in his 8 th season. 16/17 season he was appointed as the manager.
It's fucking Rashford
I'm convinced of this as well
Rashford & his brother are the leaks in the Club.
I agree
😂 rashford has had a bad season he’s not part of some conspiracy to bring united down …
There's only 6 people at the club who are privy to what's happening with the manager. Are you seriously suggesting that Ineos have been briefing the players, the kit man, and the tea lady?
The players were complaining about McKennas training being crap and his attitude being school masterly under Olly, no way that’s changing
This club is hopeless ...they disgust me
Why should anyone give a flying fugg what the players think?
What do you mean ? Mastery? 🤔🧐
@@paulmcallister8948 Master -ly as in Expert-ly
The decline of United has become an absolute tragedy and disgrace. The Busby Babes would be rolling in their graves
It's hilarious keep it up 😁😁😁
@@Fmfcg So legacies and history making are to be disregarded?
This is football heritage. I'm enjoying every minute
It was only 60 years ago but true supporters value the legacy.
We saw the Busby babes. Relegation, Fergie era and this Instagram trash.
The busby babes were rolling in their graves in the 1970 with relgation and a squad full of party animals.
Let him speak Simon!
I can't speak. I can't speak.
@@charliemcgrane353where you dropped on your head as a child?
I've supported Manchester United for 60 odd years and if ETH Gets the sack i've had it with United its now becoming a circus
I feel the same way, this is not how the club should be run.
Mate how much time you gonna give Eth this guy needs to go along with the team . Full clear out.
@@MuhammadAliA-r6hwell if a new manager comes in the players won't leave we need a manager for the long term to clear players. Switching managers just gives players a clean slate
@user-je2rh5pw4h You'd have had ferguson out, give him time.
@@johnhume4346 you obviously been watching a different man unt. for the last 5-10 years 👍👍👍
I think you forget the catastrophe of this season. FINISHING 8TH🤦 this manager gotta go and you also don't pat attention to the fact that I don't think it's just him , it's the squad , thses player do not care about the badge. I honestly don't know what you are seeing
INEOS and Ratcliffe are the new face of the Glazers.
Ineglazeros.
Obviously they bought the Football operations not the whole club.
We could get McKenna for free in 6 months when Chelsea sack him, which would only prove that he’s not at prem or champions league level
Don't worry manchester united are not a ucl club anymore so Mckenna will be just fine managing a mid table team like Man united.
We (Chelsea) are using him as a smokescreen and to confuse your clueless directors in man u to go after him. Chelsea will surely not sign McKenna!
What do you know about that ?
haha
I actually feel like mckena won't be much respected because most of those players are used to seeing him on another level so for him to succeed he will have to do a major clean up of older players like how arteta did with laca and auba..de zerbi seemed a better candidate according to me
The INEOS way of preparing for a cup final. Well done Jim Ratfink Glazer.🤬
Stop projecting the reports manufactured by the media onto Ineos
Honestly if they reacted McKenna possibly working for Chelsea, they only had to wait few months before he would have been sacked by Chelsea too🙄
So Sancho and Rashford and their PR agency have got ten Hag sacked, basically. And Shaw, he shares the same agency. It's disgusting.
@@gaara6292 Eh? What basic level of critical thinking are you employing here? He has the same agency as Shaw and Rashford, the same agency briefing against ten Hag and planting stories in the English media that he will happily return to United so long as ten Hag isn't manager.
It is more difficult to argue that he hasn't had a role in getting rid of the manager than it is the other way around. I'm not interested in perennial victimhood from players or their flying monkeys online.
@@gaara6292so, the other journalists are binary, or whatever, what's your point about Sancho being at Dortmund?
United ain't letting him got for anything less than 60 Million Euros and Dortmund have never spent more than 35 so yeah, his camp can still be dragging it
ETH in. Cmon yanited!
Man Devided is a commercial club, they make no football decisions and INEOS are no different to the Glazers
Team Erik Ten Hag
Team Manchester United 🔴
I am really confused . One day the manager is deffo leaving . The next day he will stay
The club is a mess at the moment, very unorganised
Would be good if the owners of the club announces their plans for the manager months ago... they are the reason there is all the question marks, no concrete direction from above leads to chaos underneath.
I feel like nobody knows, they’re all just putting out stories to look like they know what’s happening. The fact that even Fabrizio and Ornstein keep saying it’s 50/50 tells you all you need to know
As we saw with the Berrada appointment when even people high up at the club didn't know it was happening until it happened...Ineos aren't briefing anybody outside of the six. It's driving the media crazy because they aren't getting the usual leaks from the club. But, for sure, Ineos have been sounding out other managers and when you do that it's impossible to keep a lid on everything because you have the same third parties, agents and reps, talking to other clubs.
Even if ten hag is staying, the fact the ineos allowed these rumors to surface is sad
If timing is everything... announcing this for cup final day... Man City Trojan in MUFC senior management ? ETH is the MAN.
Bruh why do they keep cutting you off
You didn’t have to cut me off
It’s INEOS
@@OthmanTaibi-xf4rkmake out like we never happened and that we were nothing
@@williamedwardsantiago I don't even need your love
Happened yesterday aswell
To all who thought INEOS was the saviour. Look at there record!
Absolute bean counters trying to get things done on the cheap.
With paid off PR and some sports science smoke n mirrors.
Berrada, Blanc, Ashworth, Wilcox....all have decent records in football.
@creepingbrain Ashworth not there yet his behavior is disgusting you can have him another rat like ratcliff you should get a points deduction for your behavior
@@chrisclassical7 exactly
@@chrisclassical7 look at Mercedes f1 sky cycling the French team all bang average
These people who have just arrived and looked at the players and decided to get rid of the manager...wow... we are in trouble/free fall...all on the day of a Final...only at Man Utd!!!
If ineos sack him after this final I’m honestly done with this club. They don’t care about the fans just like the glazers
Who cares what you think
@@duncanthorburn796312 people cared what he thought, stay mad
Internet mob @@duncanthorburn7963
Are you joking
Majority of the fans wanted ole to be sacked
Ineos will make decisions in the best interest of the football club, not to appease a bunch of whoppers on social media
INEOS & Ratcliffe are a disgrace to the club; fans & ETH. The manner in which INEOS have treated ETH & fans prior to a cup final is destabilizing the team preporation. Disgrace.
True mate
Basically they want a yes man
Do you honestly think pep gives one about who starts for man utd today geez
No but you dont see man city team getting leaked by the press do you?
@@erikarzensekdoesn’t mark leak it well before it’s announced too tho?
@@jordanb966no
He does now 🤣🤣🤣🤣⚡️💥🏆
@@jordanb966 no he predicts the line up
Thanks for the service, ETH. Wishing you success at your new club. Thinking that you are ok although failed to qualify for the CL is probably a naivety on my part. It is clear if no CL, then you are fired.
No matter what happens today as a football club We’re FUCKED!
Kryptonite is what ineos+glazers is to Man Utd!!!
I think United have no chance of raising any funds for a good summer transfer, so Ineos afraid of having another bad season are looking for a new manager bounce to save them! It’s sad because I know anywhere Ten Hag goes after United he will succeed
INEOS OUT!!
Already, why? Ratcliffe's not to blame, you were all screaming for him to take over 6 months ago.
@@martinswift536 They are Glazer puppets! I never wanted them in the first place, won’t see a single comment from me saying otherwise! I wanted a full takeover not this BS. Get them gone.
Did they say degea was staying sent him on holiday then told him not to come back?
@@RedDevilDog1207he signed it but they withdrew the contract without them signing it
@@RedDevilDog1207didnt he take the agreement tho?
Couple years ago weren’t the media coming out that ‘players’ weren’t happy with the training from McKenna and the others? Now they want him back
All the people calling folk 'plastic'for saying that they've had enough are making a mockery of the reality of the situation that lies at the foundation of what this ONCE great club is built on.. people saying that they can no longer tolerate the undermining bs that is plaguing and destroying the real legacy of Manchester United.. it could be argued that in fact you are the 'plastics' by continuing to 'support' this illusion and general disregard of the fabric that made us what we were.. just like someone putting up with an abusive relationship, getting put down and ridiculed day in day out.. The Manchester United that you so dearly cling on to isn't actually there!
I totally agree with this.
Spot on! Sad, but needs saying. Ty
@mvandell
Well said
Well said. Brutal but honest
The Melbourne victory moment is comedy gold 😂😂😂😂😂😂
McKenna the man the players didn't like because his sessions were boring as manager . So now we have the glazers and ineos gutting the club to implement a yes man .
What makes Utd feel that Sancho will be any different? Ineglazeros?
Madness to announce this before the cup final ! This is so wrong !
It's simple. Jose said there's still players here that he wanted to get rid of. Theres only a small handful of players still here from Joses era. I think we can easily narrow down some these problem players.
Let McKenna go to Chelsea, he will probably available before the beginning of the season.
Ten hag also said united play the most dynamic and exciting football in the league so…
Dynamic and exciting for the opponents!
They are today, Citeh are in their pocket 🤣👍
YOU'RE 8TH. How do you not sack your manager as a big club after an 8th place finish!
I think you've hit the nail on the head with that fact the change of mind has came because Chelsea want Mckenna and ineos don't want to lose the chance to sign Mckenna, if Mckenna said out right hes staying at Ipswich or Chelsea said they didn't want him. ETH staying another year which would suit ineos financially but having there hand forced
Makes complete sense. See how he performs in PL, whilst ETH contract runs down. Hand forced. I guess tho they are brutal and will do what's necessary
Then what would happen if Ten Hag, had a great season, would they still get rid of him.
@@tonysmith3538 genuinely yeah unless we win the league I think they would make a change next summer regardless he wasn't appointed by ineos so once the structure behind the scenes fully up and running I think they would want there own person coaching the team
Brahh it's this man or no else......if he is sacked then am done with this club....can't leave like this😢😢
Bruh, move on! I don’t understand how anyone expected him to stay after an abysmal performance.
I think it's a very bizarre choice honestly. Mckenna has an impressive cv, but ten hag has a better one, so does Poch. Success at a championship club, doesn't equal success in the prem. This guys got no experience of managing a prem club, none whatsoever, just being second in command. Then you throw him into the deep end by giving him the roughest gig on the board. I hope I'm wrong, I might be a rival supporter, but I'm also a proud Englishman and don't think it's in the countries interest to see man u destroyed like this. But if its true, I'd say buckle up, it's probably gonna be a rough ride
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Thats the best ending of a show ever
Can’t think of the footballing circumstances that make sacking Ten Hag the right thing to do. If he goes, assuming there is nothing sinister that he has done which is not visible to fans, the most logical conclusion is that Ineos are not going to be what we need. Expect more of the same if they conclude the manager is the problem.
Anyone who made scoobydoo capt. needs sacking months ago
Sir Jim Glazer. Ineos havent shown that they're any different to the glazers.
Everybody in the stadium, sing Ten Hag IN!!!!!!!
The future of Ten Hag has been a topic of discussion for months. He himself had not yet heard anything from the club management. "I hear that they want to change everything but want to build with me. At least that is what they say to me directly and what they express. I am and will remain combative. And I will notice what will or will not happen around it. That tends towards politics. And I cannot and do not want to be influenced by that." Dutch interview white erik
beautiful home you have Mark Goldbridge🏡
Has anyone even heard Kieran McKenna ever talk???? 😳🥺🫣
Who are the players that went and threw ten hag under the bus? Name them mark. I think we all have a rough idea but name them.
Love how Mark got so angry of me for calling out that "most win ratio" speech when we finished 8th, just hope that I won't get blocked for sharing an opinion contrary to his.
I totally agree with mark on this. Just look at the injuries we have had, absolutely no surprise that we are 8th. What do you expect.
You are clueless
@@HarrisonLHolt My question to you is, when will Erik Ten Hag be accountable for the poor results?
Mark mentions that the "culprits" are still here and it's their fault, if we were to get rid of Shaw, Rashford, etc. Will it be on Ten Hag's head then? Probably not.
Mark will then say that Ten Hag wasn't given the players he wanted and it's INEOS fault, if it then comes to talent only instead of managerial skills, then what is the point of offering high wages on a senile manager like Ten Hag?
@@MrDingle92 So, what's your argument then?
@@thehandsomeelba Erik ten hag will be accountable for poor results when the poor results are on Erik. The poor results this season are not on Erik ten hag solely. It is due to injuries, off field activities like sale of club, players refusing to play, not buying defenders when we needed that position desperately, lack of stability etc which are all not on ten hag. It is due to the poor structure around him . If you don't have the vision to see that then I don't know how you watch football.
Last season, Liverpool didn't finish in the champions League position due to the severe injury crisis. Did you blame klopp for that?
Did Liverpool fans want klopp sacked for that?
It's basic common sense
If ten hag plays a young XI and we somehow win it would be the most dopest thing ever. Like no marcus no big ego players and we still win. We all man utd fans wanna see this idc if he keaves afterwards at least those pundits mouths would be shutted up.
Should have done that the start of Jan.He deserves sacking picking rashy all season
@@daviddeida💯
I’m 50-50 on Ten Hag. Then I look at the list of his replacements and I get really worried. I like Mckenna, but he was in charge of our tactics under Ole. This plus his back to back promotions tells me he is too good for championship but not good enough for champions league! Mckenna is Ineos’ Graham Potter!
Hope the fans give ETH a send off, he may of made mistakes but doesn’t deserve to be treated like this.
It's insane if they want McKenna...not ready yet.
Its also insane if they keep Ten Hag.
@@stewartcameron1516 ETH is more of a stable choice for next Season... McKenna is a gamble, and I don't gamble.
“Twitter”!!!😂😂😂
Good show. All shows should be 30 mins or less!!!❤
I hope this is thee master stroke of mind games and that ETH and the players are in on it so that City drops their guard and expect an unorganised, disjointed team!!! And then bang….. ETH has his players whistling along!
Ten Hag fell out with his players, the young and senior players alike. His team got dominated by every other opponent including Coventry. Mark is blinded by his issues with Rashford but Clearly Ten Hag has lost the faith of that team and he has to go.
The way y'all defend Ten Hag you would think he won us a Champions League the previous season like Tuchel did with Chelsea before being sacked.
The guy has done nothing, accomplished nothing, no progression in two years Ange failed at the end but the progression is there, Emery immediately he took over Villa you could see where they were headed, the Bournemouth Manager, look at Glasner, Ten Hag has shown no progress at all with or without a Full Team.
It's only a 8 point gap to Villa with this huge mess. Stable Onana in the beginning and less injuries and top 4 would have been guaranteed. Remember when Liverpool had the injury crisis with Van Dijk.
@@PineroTheGhost there is no stability in build up because of the constant changing back 4.
@planetebeautecali4485 Your level of understanding shows your football language. Don't compare those clubs and their players with United and its players.
Funny. Arsenal fans were saying the same about him when he was there. He got the sack. Look at him now.
Just to throw it out there to these impatient lads - Gasperini won the Europa league with Atalanta in his 8 th season. 16/17 season he was appointed as the manager.
Not sure that Pep needs a 'heads up' to gain an advantage over our squad at the minute but It's a cup final, it's all to play for. The players need to go out and play for the badge, play for the fans and then, irrespective of the result, we'll concentrate on next season with players out and players in.
Ineos aren’t obligated to ETH. Furthermore, ETH along with the previous managers, enabled the very players that got them sacked. Sounds like his own fault.
Yup. Hanging his hat on Antony, rashford ! Has cost him!
we stand with ten hag❤
It's a rollercoaster ride for ETH this season, some players should get the stick and not just the manager.
Why do you believe what this manager says he has literally been lying to us fans the whole season and you believe what he says
Like when ?
I saw some people saying that player power is a lazy argument, but it is clear that they are the consistent issue at the club over the years. McKenna could be a good manager but the key word is could, so it's just another risk.
Mate, Real Madrid don't have "owners". The club is owned by its members (ie. the fans).
have they ask Xavi yet?
Let's not pretend that channels like this are not apart of the problem. Mark has spread more negativity about the club and it's players than the media has.
Sadly that's how it feels
Couldn’t imagine defending the media over a TH-camr
@Jhelil I think you'll find a lot more younger impressionable adults with their own social medias etc will watch channels like Mark's over listening to TalkSport on the radio. Let's not kid ourselves and act like Mark's channel doesn't have an impact
@@Jhelil TH-cam is a media.
I actually feel like mckena won't be much respected because most of those players are used to seeing him on another level so for him to succeed he will have to do a major clean up of older players like how arteta did with laca and auba..de zerbi seemed a better candidate according to me
If he wasn’t getting sacked then the club would cry BS on the reports. He’s GONE!
Some players we dont want will leave, some players we dont want will stay, because they have contracts and dont have to go anywhere, thats just how it works
Art of ending 😂
He's not coming back. We all know it. It's about accepting it.
Chelshit going for Mckenna has surely made ineos make this move
Why does ragnick get brought up when he was an interim?
Because he was supposed to stay in the club as an advisory to the board but his press talks shattered murtough and arnolds ego and he had to go
@@erikarzensek but thats not a managerial position. It’s also reported that ETH didn’t want him
@@Toldyaa
Why was ten hags opinion wanted about a position above him?
He should have been told this is the setup if you want the job then fine otherwise we will find another manager..... If they wanted ragnick in that position, let's be honest it was man U that wanted ragnick gone not ten hag and they wanted him gone cause he was honest about the club. Said it needed open heart surgery lol they got him out and put in some lip fillers 😂
@@JNRF5385 because ten hags contract has a lot of control in it . There’s no indication of the vultures wanting rangnick out . He was the interim manager , he wasn’t in line to be the next manager and the players didnt get him sacked . Its not relevant and mark clutches at straws
Karma! ETH told CR7 that he’s part of his plans but then benched him, now INEOS told ETH he’s part of their plans but 😂😂😂
ETH has DeGea’s blood on his hands as well
These ronaldo dogs man
I personally feel a decision from INEOS on the manger situation will come after the game today. Because if United win and then they sack ETH it’s a really bad look but if we lose then it’s an easy and plausible decision that most fans would get behind
He's gone eitherway. It doesn't matter what it looks like it's how he's done over the course of the season. This is what all managers are judged on
Hi Mark, what about the functions? Sir Alex was mainly a manager and not a coach. Maybe we will work with a manager and a coach combination?
If we sack ETH we are doomed and all this media pile on is bulls***t and many fans want Man U to lose the final so that ETH is gone
Some fans are unbelievable and have no idea about football
I want ETH to stay and he will surely win the FA Cup and continue next season
I think the biggest worry is that whether he stays or he goes, I don’t think we have the time or the ability to clear out all the players that need to go, and as long as thats the case, we’ll end up back in the cycle of sacking managers sooner or later
Ten hag ❤
Nice living room Mark. Very tasteful.
Fire rashford!!!!! Not ten hag
Player's win again! I don't expect any major signings
Goldbluff in the denial stage of grief then😂
The players need to be told that regardless of their view of Ten Hag, this match is their duty and their audition to prove their worth.
Ten Hag has lashed out at section of of the fanbase in an interview in the Dutch press he's gone.
except he hasn't, he lashed out at the the 'so called' experts. He means the pundits and press.
Ha, y’all dunno his controversies when he was with Ajax. He is not a good fella.
@@hugjes Ange doesn’t like the press too but he knows how to handle them unlike Ego Erik.
@@hugjes He did also lash out at a section of fans too.
@@ChineseKiwitell us
If this is wrong and ETH stays TUS need to take accountability for spreading sources 😂
Surely it's better if this guy goes ti Chelsea unt. Can see if he dose well there and get him in later...
Anyways im alwys eth out because finishing 8 is unacceptable
If ETH leave then INEOS must pick McKenna, he's young and has a huge coaching potential, but most importantly he know the club he know the culture, he already has the DNA of Man United, it has to be him, not RDZ, not Poch, and definitely not that garbage Tuchel!
If McKenna is in charge next season we will not finish top ten I guarantee it.
If the club culture is toxic, why would you want someone who knows it? Look at Ole.
Mark trying to multitask😂
This man united the manager was waffling talking about hojlund injury he signed him when Watkins and Toney was in prem fullback Alvaro Fernandes reguilon had chance to stay
Have you all forgotten so soon ? We were crying all season about ETH .. how have you forgotten so soon ? Crystal palace … Newcastle .. COVENTRY????
You know when there are those cards with players.. There should be player power index there.
Really hope the fans in the stadium are singing Ten Hag's name the entire match, even if we get pumped 8-0.
Man City fans will probably join in! 😂
What if he's not sacked will this stubborn man apologize
That end was a scene of Paranormal Activity. Loud noise in the back, camera stops...everything goes quiet...better check on Mark ppl