Hurrem strutted throughout the Palace like the Queen she was. Ibrahim forgot who was his BOSS. Suleyman knew he always covered Mahidveran treachery and lies particularly against HURREM
Why do hurrem fans forget how tracherous Hurrem is? Compared to hurrem, Mahidveran is an innocent baby. If she was as cunning as hurrem. Mustafa would be the next king.
He said the truth. What is the difference between Syleiman and Mustafa? Both of them were Princes. Both of them were the biggest sons of their father, both of them were protected by Ibrahim Pasha. Why Syleiman didn't leave Ibrahim Pasha to protect Prince Mustafa? Because Syleiman was the only one who scared about himself. Because if Prince Mustafa would take the throne, Syleiman reign would end. This was Syleiman's greatest fear. Because he thought that both Ibrahim Pasha and Prince Mustafa had betrayed him. The only traitors who were alive during Syleiman's reign, were Hurrem, Rustem and Syleiman himself. Neither Ibrahim Pasha nor Mustafa or Mahidevran or anyone else who had right about Hurrem's and Rustem's lies weren't the traitors. The biggest traitor was Syleiman. He gave promises and he didn't keep them.
@@dionysissmaragdis5627 the difference is clear, ibrahim served suleyman in that time, now he is grandvizier, he should stay in the capital, mustafa has his own men who can help him, that was a very stupid analogy made by ibrahim
@@dionysissmaragdis5627 Emperor has the supreme right to choose his successor. Ibrahim had no right to choose Mustafa as the successor and act accordingly. He was a mare server of the empire. He had to respect all the 5 princes equally. It would be better for him if he let Suleiman decide the next king.
@@dionysissmaragdis5627 Look up the meaning of the words traitor and betrayal. Then apply them to Ibrahim and Mustapha behaviours under any criteria. They come back to tell me they were both loyal to Suleiman.
Ibrahim was the glue that held the Ottoman Empire together and Just like King Henry when he had Cromwell executed Suleiman went downhill when he killed Ibrahim.
Ibrahim's words were all true. All he wanted was to protect Mustafa and not to let Mustafa and Syleiman be rivals, so Syleiman wouldn't be able to decide harsh and made something that it would be able to sad them. That was the truth. Even if he didn't believe it that's the truth. But the truth is something that people don't understand and when people don't realise it, then it is too late to prevent the mistakes and the harsh decisions, for example Ibrahim's, Mustafa's and Beyazid's execution (and many other executions of the royal family).
It wasn't his ONLY act. Ibrahim messed up every single time. He started calling Suleiman A lion and himself a lion tamer. Considered himself a Sultan, went against Sultan's only legal wife, covered up many baseless Decisions of Mahidevran, made his own throne.
I am surprised that,even after seeing ibrahims evil& cruel acts..esp his lies& betrayals against suleiman & his fly...someone could still be on his side..justifying his actions😮
I love some of the expressions that come out in the English subtitles, like "I'm hitting the road to meet him in Bursa". Sounds like something John Wayne might say. "And then what, Hünkarim?" "Why, and then we're gonna head off that dastardly Tahmasp and his Safavids at the pass!"
What arrogance? Ibrahim wanted to protect Prince Mustafa from the wrath of Syleiman. That's the truth. Besides, it is nonsense that Ibrahim wanted the throne for himself, he just wanted to make sure that the throne would be Mustafa's, because Mustafa was the Heir Prince, Syleiman said it himself here. Ibrahim during this conversation he had with Syleiman, he was absolutely right. Everything was true, everything that he said to Syleiman was true, his every word. Unfortunately, Syleiman didn't understand what means the word "truth". Because if Syleiman known this word, he should stop put aside his family for a Ruthenian slave. He made the mistake once (and this mistake was due to his harsh decisions, a good ruler doesn't act like that) to make her the Master of the Harem, but Hurrem had authority only to the Harem and this because Valide Sultana died because of Hurrem. Hurrem had only responsibility to have Harem in charge, the real responsible for all the things were Syleiman. Hurrem should know better how to act, if she wanted to be a "princess". Being a princess is very difficult and only one was the true hero and she was the true princess and this person was Mahidevran Sultana, also Hatice Sultana and Valide Sultana, not Hurrem.
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 That Ruthenian Slave set the bar for other women in Turkey, Other women attempted to follow hers actions. She did not forget her upbringing, she built mosques and charitable organizations to help the poor. Power and greed killed IBRAHIM. He was Mahidveran go to cover up boy. He got what he deserved. SULEYMAN was the EMPEROR, Do as I say not as I DO.
Ibrahim is an expert in lying& backstabbing rather smoothly 😎he shows his audacity in back answering/ questioning suleiman which usually doesnt end well 😎 Suleimans sisters,ibrahim,mahi& mustafa always had this huge entitlement that they thought they are all beyond punishments from suleiman 😎even if they backstab him....
@@khalilmohammadmirza4070 Alright son. At the age when murad conquered Baghdad suliman was not in the throne. Suliman was treated by his own sons while Murad won war leaving his rival brother.
also sidenote, I'd actually say that Suleiman was actually more machiavellian than Ibrahim. He was smart, cunning, knew when to spare people, commanded loyalty and rarely used outright cruelty, just as Machiavelli dictates. "Cruelty and ruthlessness are a tool any monarch can only use once." Suleiman did so: ONCE.
It's not such a good idea to tell the Sultan of the World that you didn't tell him the truth because you wanted to "keep him from making a rash decision that will upset both of you". The Sultan just may get the impression that you think you're smarter than he is; or, even worse: that you think he's stupid, and doesn't know how to handle his own son. And this may make him very, very angry. And the consequences of angering Süleyman will not be pleasant.
This show has show ibrahim pasha wrong. Yes he was arrogant but he made a major contribution to sultan suleiman reigns and he was not an enemy of hurrem sultan sultan. Hurrem sultan wanted him dead because he was a supporter of shehzede mustafa and she wanted that grand vizier of empire should be her supporter so she wanted to appoint rushem pasha as grand vizier.
This show made many characters trash so that people could sympathise with Hurrem. Ibrahim never cheated or even married Hatice irl 🥴leo was also a fictional character. So all those were ways to make his character trash. So that people would choose Hurrem's side between her and Ibrahim's rivalry. Because Hurrem's character would play for a long time. And they need to maintain the TRP of the show. It's for money
Ibrahims job was to protect and serve sulieman and he alone. He chose to do many other foolish errands and ignore the responsibility that sulieman placed on him. He was never protecting sulieman or his wishes just his own agenda and mahidevran and her wishes because he didn’t like competing with Hirrem. He should have fulfilled his duty
Šteta što Mustafa nije bio pametniji da zajedno sa Ibrahimom svrgne svog oca jer taj otac je ubijao svoje sinove ne pustivši ni suzu a toliko dugo je vladao da je postao smijesan, i dementam zaveden sa vjesticom, steta imao je izuzetnu jaku podršku januara jedino paše su bile problem, bile su sve potkupljene kasnije od strane hurem
Sultan suleiman shouldn’t be called the Magnificent. He has gone down in history as the Murderer. He killed so many of his own innocent sons and others. All because of a dancing slave girl who outsmarted every one due to her cunning.
@@harris.est.13 I said the same thing... Because this series is showing so much deceit/hurt/etc. (that probably did happen behind castle walls) but honestly sometimes the series loses stronghold of the true history. I guess it was done to make it captivating for further continuity of the show... But have we actually seen the building of the Mosques; the good deeds these characters did in history?
@@harris.est.13 it's true that this show is far from being historicaly accurate but no one can denie that during the second half of sulyman reign paranoia took over him he started killing people left and right and made selim his most incompetent son as his "heir" by the end no one is perfect
I don't think this dancing slave had a choice. It's either you have your sons executed or make sure your son gets the throne. It's this or that. It wasn't easy back in time.😘😘
Lol Suleiman usually snaps and shouts when he's angry, which makes this quiet smiling rage he has here even scarier
True. Halit Ergec is one of the finest actors.💯
Man, Suleiman reminds me of when my dad gets super mad. The same smile and calm before the storm.....
What about his wife?
Soo trueeee
"There is NO INNOCENCE
on a PATH of LIES!!"
So beautifully said and very TRUE in any CENTURY!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😇
Ibrahim is such a smooth talker omg.....
Meanwhile in the dungeon...
@@harris.est.13 stays in the dungeon.
@@harris.est.13 what in the dungeon ?
Only Mahidevran was dumb.
@@ahmedirfansamad extreamly, yes. Mustafa's death is her fault. Her and Ibrahim's.
Hurrem strutted throughout the Palace like the Queen she was. Ibrahim forgot who was his BOSS. Suleyman knew he always covered Mahidveran treachery and lies particularly against HURREM
Yes indeed
Why do hurrem fans forget how tracherous Hurrem is?
Compared to hurrem, Mahidveran is an innocent baby.
If she was as cunning as hurrem. Mustafa would be the next king.
EXACTLY 💯
None of this would have happened if Suleman reduced Ibrahim's power.
He said the truth. What is the difference between Syleiman and Mustafa? Both of them were Princes. Both of them were the biggest sons of their father, both of them were protected by Ibrahim Pasha. Why Syleiman didn't leave Ibrahim Pasha to protect Prince Mustafa? Because Syleiman was the only one who scared about himself. Because if Prince Mustafa would take the throne, Syleiman reign would end. This was Syleiman's greatest fear. Because he thought that both Ibrahim Pasha and Prince Mustafa had betrayed him. The only traitors who were alive during Syleiman's reign, were Hurrem, Rustem and Syleiman himself. Neither Ibrahim Pasha nor Mustafa or Mahidevran or anyone else who had right about Hurrem's and Rustem's lies weren't the traitors. The biggest traitor was Syleiman. He gave promises and he didn't keep them.
@@dionysissmaragdis5627 the difference is clear, ibrahim served suleyman in that time, now he is grandvizier, he should stay in the capital, mustafa has his own men who can help him, that was a very stupid analogy made by ibrahim
@@dionysissmaragdis5627 you CLEARLY don't know what being a traitor is if you think Hurrem would EVER betray her husband 🤡
@@dionysissmaragdis5627 Emperor has the supreme right to choose his successor. Ibrahim had no right to choose Mustafa as the successor and act accordingly. He was a mare server of the empire. He had to respect all the 5 princes equally. It would be better for him if he let Suleiman decide the next king.
@@dionysissmaragdis5627 Look up the meaning of the words traitor and betrayal. Then apply them to Ibrahim and Mustapha behaviours under any criteria. They come back to tell me they were both loyal to Suleiman.
Suleiman looked so creepy with his quiet smile 😬
Ibrahim explains that he met with Mustafa so Suleyman "wouldn't make a rash decision that he would regret." Arrogant beyond belief.
Man what an acting by both these actors👏👏👌
Turkish is very nice and soft musical language
Seriously? That is so sweet of you, because some find turkish language aggressive and ugly... which is absolutely not true
Turkish language is emotional of all languages ever.
@@damsykl People who claim that say that cuz they hate Turkish people.
Ibrahim was the glue that held the Ottoman Empire together and Just like King Henry when he had Cromwell executed Suleiman went downhill when he killed Ibrahim.
Ibrahim's words were all true. All he wanted was to protect Mustafa and not to let Mustafa and Syleiman be rivals, so Syleiman wouldn't be able to decide harsh and made something that it would be able to sad them. That was the truth. Even if he didn't believe it that's the truth. But the truth is something that people don't understand and when people don't realise it, then it is too late to prevent the mistakes and the harsh decisions, for example Ibrahim's, Mustafa's and Beyazid's execution (and many other executions of the royal family).
It wasn't his ONLY act. Ibrahim messed up every single time. He started calling Suleiman A lion and himself a lion tamer. Considered himself a Sultan, went against Sultan's only legal wife, covered up many baseless Decisions of Mahidevran, made his own throne.
I am surprised that,even after seeing ibrahims evil& cruel acts..esp his lies& betrayals against suleiman & his fly...someone could still be on his side..justifying his actions😮
"Your path leads to Hell Ibraham" -Hurreum
He is scary, when he smiles in that manner. !!
The worst friend is the one that lies and robbs.
I love some of the expressions that come out in the English subtitles, like "I'm hitting the road to meet him in Bursa". Sounds like something John Wayne might say. "And then what, Hünkarim?" "Why, and then we're gonna head off that dastardly Tahmasp and his Safavids at the pass!"
Ibrahim messed up soooooooo many times, his end was anticipated. Your enemy is ALWAYS the one closest to you. Power and Arrogance is fatal
EXACTLY 💯
What arrogance? Ibrahim wanted to protect Prince Mustafa from the wrath of Syleiman. That's the truth. Besides, it is nonsense that Ibrahim wanted the throne for himself, he just wanted to make sure that the throne would be Mustafa's, because Mustafa was the Heir Prince, Syleiman said it himself here. Ibrahim during this conversation he had with Syleiman, he was absolutely right. Everything was true, everything that he said to Syleiman was true, his every word. Unfortunately, Syleiman didn't understand what means the word "truth". Because if Syleiman known this word, he should stop put aside his family for a Ruthenian slave. He made the mistake once (and this mistake was due to his harsh decisions, a good ruler doesn't act like that) to make her the Master of the Harem, but Hurrem had authority only to the Harem and this because Valide Sultana died because of Hurrem. Hurrem had only responsibility to have Harem in charge, the real responsible for all the things were Syleiman. Hurrem should know better how to act, if she wanted to be a "princess". Being a princess is very difficult and only one was the true hero and she was the true princess and this person was Mahidevran Sultana, also Hatice Sultana and Valide Sultana, not Hurrem.
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 That Ruthenian Slave set the bar for other women in Turkey, Other women attempted to follow hers actions. She did not forget her upbringing, she built mosques and charitable organizations to help the poor. Power and greed killed IBRAHIM. He was Mahidveran go to cover up boy. He got what he deserved. SULEYMAN was the EMPEROR, Do as I say not as I DO.
Hurrem mussed up more i reckon
@@쉴레이만은솔로몬유수 If she messed up more she would have been dead rather than Ibrahim.
Omg why is Suleiman so easily influenced why
These words from Ibrahim couldn’t be more true.
Ibrahim is an expert in lying& backstabbing rather smoothly 😎he shows his audacity in back answering/ questioning suleiman which usually doesnt end well 😎
Suleimans sisters,ibrahim,mahi& mustafa always had this huge entitlement that they thought they are all beyond punishments from suleiman 😎even if they backstab him....
About about bayazid.
Hurrem is such a mood
If sultan murad IV was in place of sultan sulaiman ibrahim wouldn’t dare do anything 😀
Exactly
Sultan Murad was so stupid, he was going to end the entire empire just to have a win over his mother.
Suleiman is not a stupid like that.
@@khalilmohammadmirza4070 Sultan Murad was ill and going mad at that point so I don't blame him. But yes ending the house of osman is a bit far.
@@khalilmohammadmirza4070 Alright son. At the age when murad conquered Baghdad suliman was not in the throne. Suliman was treated by his own sons while Murad won war leaving his rival brother.
If Sultan Murad was in Suleiman's place. Ibrahim and Mustafa would've actually rebelled against him 🤡 that man was savage but stupid for sure
I hate the character of Ibrahim: Machiavelli was his role model.
and he failed his rolemodel in that case
also sidenote, I'd actually say that Suleiman was actually more machiavellian than Ibrahim. He was smart, cunning, knew when to spare people, commanded loyalty and rarely used outright cruelty, just as Machiavelli dictates. "Cruelty and ruthlessness are a tool any monarch can only use once." Suleiman did so: ONCE.
@@TheChill001 or more? Ibrahim,Mustafa, Bayazid and their children... those last 2 were his sons,with innocent kids...
That was splendid, thank you‼️‼️‼️‼️❗❗❗❗ 💙🍃✨💫🌟⭐🥇🏆👑 *Our Darling, Beloved His Grace* 💙🍃✨💫🌟⭐🥇🏆👑always handled things, quite well, indeed‼️‼️‼️‼️❗❗❗❗
The beard getting trimmed tho
Suleiman knows his shit
Yes, but he is limited depending on who informs him and what is their perception/motive?
@@chitramohanraj26 does it matter? As long as it's truth? Ibrahim used to lie to Suleiman to protect mahidevil and suleiman knew it.
It's not such a good idea to tell the Sultan of the World that you didn't tell him the truth because you wanted to "keep him from making a rash decision that will upset both of you". The Sultan just may get the impression that you think you're smarter than he is; or, even worse: that you think he's stupid, and doesn't know how to handle his own son. And this may make him very, very angry. And the consequences of angering Süleyman will not be pleasant.
Ibrahim was too intelligent he knows that how to manage sultan
1:55 and 2:08 music name??
This show has show ibrahim pasha wrong. Yes he was arrogant but he made a major contribution to sultan suleiman reigns and he was not an enemy of hurrem sultan sultan. Hurrem sultan wanted him dead because he was a supporter of shehzede mustafa and she wanted that grand vizier of empire should be her supporter so she wanted to appoint rushem pasha as grand vizier.
This show made many characters trash so that people could sympathise with Hurrem. Ibrahim never cheated or even married Hatice irl 🥴leo was also a fictional character. So all those were ways to make his character trash. So that people would choose Hurrem's side between her and Ibrahim's rivalry. Because Hurrem's character would play for a long time. And they need to maintain the TRP of the show. It's for money
Better be a good explanation Ibrahim 🙄 Ayaz Pasha doesn't like Ibrahim either . What your business Ibrahim on Mahidevran problem ?
Ibrahim always looks and sounds so guilty!
Because he was indeed guilty
Mustafa's love affairs caused many troubles for him and others who loved him😢
Suleiman loved hurrem a bit too much actually
Ibrahims job was to protect and serve sulieman and he alone. He chose to do many other foolish errands and ignore the responsibility that sulieman placed on him. He was never protecting sulieman or his wishes just his own agenda and mahidevran and her wishes because he didn’t like competing with Hirrem. He should have fulfilled his duty
Ah ibrahim…if only you were alive, shehzade mustafa would rule and the history would have been something else today…
The captions are blurred
Episode number??
Ibrahim kept on making mistakes
Ibrahim power went to his head
Šteta što Mustafa nije bio pametniji da zajedno sa Ibrahimom svrgne svog oca jer taj otac je ubijao svoje sinove ne pustivši ni suzu a toliko dugo je vladao da je postao smijesan, i dementam zaveden sa vjesticom, steta imao je izuzetnu jaku podršku januara jedino paše su bile problem, bile su sve potkupljene kasnije od strane hurem
Speech 100 Ibrahim
Ibrahim said truth but never understood by Suleiman what a pity he killed his both loyal friend and son and made to sit selim rather then Mustafa.
Ibrahim spoke truth but his fault here was the he LIED to Suleiman, the existing Sultan.
Its some human being nature to be a deceiver or closetest one sad thing when our closetest most trusted one betray us😢
Какая серия
Any human who bows down to another like a dog deserves all the crap they get.
Indeed I hate Ibrahim 😂
Who doesn't?
@@DimSK. me hurremeevil
@@nayamap4402 you are mahidevil
I don't like him either.
Хюрем замучила своей подлостью змея
Sultan suleiman shouldn’t be called the Magnificent. He has gone down in history as the Murderer. He killed so many of his own innocent sons and others. All because of a dancing slave girl who outsmarted every one due to her cunning.
Now you ignore history. I dare to bet that only 20% of the whole series are the real history
@@harris.est.13 I said the same thing... Because this series is showing so much deceit/hurt/etc. (that probably did happen behind castle walls) but honestly sometimes the series loses stronghold of the true history. I guess it was done to make it captivating for further continuity of the show... But have we actually seen the building of the Mosques; the good deeds these characters did in history?
@@harris.est.13 it's true that this show is far from being historicaly accurate but no one can denie that during the second half of sulyman reign paranoia took over him he started killing people left and right and made selim his most incompetent son as his "heir" by the end no one is perfect
I don't think this dancing slave had a choice. It's either you have your sons executed or make sure your son gets the throne. It's this or that. It wasn't easy back in time.😘😘
The dancing 💃 slave changed her self to queen 👸 while her enemies dying like flys 🪰
Serial number?