My old uncle Hank was a diesel mechanic starting way back in the 40's. I went to an auction with him back in the 80's & asked him how come the Caterpillars were bringing so much more money than the rest of the stuff. He simply said "Because they're worth it". I later went to work for Cat & their attention to quality control was the most impressive I've ever seen.
Thank you Warren for the kind comments. I work in the engine side for CAT and Safety and Quality are our vocal points. No matter what year the machine is we have the parts!.
While CAT’s are good motors, I always found when they failed, they failed catastrophically. Especially the 3406B’s. But that being said, nothing like seeing yellow under a peterbilt hood.
As an h/d truck tech in the late 70's early 80's, the 1693's, 3406's & 3408's were the gold standard for truck engines, commanded respect and admiration from drivers and techs alike. If there was any way you could afford one you got one. The high pitched "snap" of them firing was music to our ears
In the USA, glow plugs for diesel engines seem to be considered unnecessary. It seems perfectly normal there that the starter motor has to agonize for a long time before the first cylinder can collect the necessary heat for auto-ignition. You can tell by the fact that white clouds come out of the exhaust for a long time. There is another way: The engines from 2:03 and 3:09 show how engines start with intact glow plugs.
Most likely those engines reluctant to start have something wrong with them, in conjunction perhaps with very cold weather. I worked for a Cat engine dealer and all our engines started very readily. Glow plugs and other cold starting tricks are only required on small (car & small truck size) engines. Glow plugs are often used on diesel car engines where the engine is actually a gasoline engine with a diesel head conversion, eg Mercedes 180D, 220D etc. Since these are based on gasoline engines, compression could not be made high enough for good starting without glow plugs as stresses on bearings would be too great. Where teh engine was designed from the ground up as a diesel, there is no problem. For a diesel engine to start, air temperature in the combustion chamber must increase sufficiently before top dead centre is reached. Combustion chamber volume goes up as the cube of cylinder bore size, but combustion chamber surface area only goes up as the square of bore size. So the ratio of volume to area improves as engine size goes up, and thus heat loss is less in larger engines. The engine at 2.03 is a Cat 3516 which does not have glow plugs. The engine at 3:09 is a Cat 3208 which does not have glow plugs. How do you know it wasn't started warm anyway?
Rosa beha Not true. Flooding the cylinders is the main reason for white smoke in a cold start diesel. Most cats especially the 3406 starts best when you leave the throttle alone and crank it for a few revolutions then slightly add throttle. They start every time even in very cold weather like that with very little smoke
Has nothing to do with being unnecessary, has to do with efficiency, they run smoother, have the potential to make a lot more power, and certainly not least, to pass increasing EPA emissions standards. There's other benefits but aren't as substantial, DI engines run better going through the mountains in the east and western US states for example.
Nothing like the 3616s. Those engines are frickin animals. I've rebuilt a few and it's amazing the power they produce and their longevity between overhauls
In locomotive service they got a top end rebuild every other year and a complete every two. Hardly durable or long living when an EMD can be beat on for 40 years and still run like a watch🤣
My grandpa remembers the 1160 Caterpillar when he worked on the fire engines and water trucks at the fire department. Then they switched to the 3208 Caterpillar. Before the 1160 Caterpillar, they ran the 2 cycle Detroit diesel
J’ai adoré travailler sur les chenilles marines pendant de nombreuses années, ma préoccupation était le moteur électronique où j’avais plus de problèmes à cause de... Électronique !
I machined 4 sets of 3516 heads for a company about 10 years ago. 16 individual heads. I was sick of them after about the 3rd set. Boss gave me a raise to simmer me down.
What? That's not what's happening at all. The generator that it drives it putting a load on the engine thus imputing more fuel thus the turbo spinning faster as a result feeding the engine more air...has nothing to do with AFR's....
When you start them cold and you listen to them for a while as they warm up you can hear them tighten up. At the end of the day you let them idol for 15 minutes before you shut them off and you can hear the sound of the motor change. You can get very attached to a caterpillar. It goes way past customer loyalty.
No they are not pinging or detonating. The combustion event is dramatically different than a spark ignition system. Diesel engines are built to be much more durable than other engines, from development and architecture to better metallurgy and machining processes. They also operate at lower RPMs which equates to less wear.
Caterpillar genset super heavy duty... All system destroyed burn but the engine and motor not have any single problems ☺️☺️☺️ TC settings is the winner against BTDC or TDC🤣🤣🤣
Caterpeter started out with a subsidiary that was well known worldwide to be the BEST gas turbine engines in the world. It took them 30 years, but they finally hit bottom.
My family has been building Caterpillar Equipment since the company was established. I am probably the only one in the family that has not worked for them.
Just because it is yellow, doesn't make it a CAT, I think you have some other brands mixed in there. The second engine doesn't look familiar, the crawler dozer could be something else, and the last one??? I have worked on a lot of Cat engines and equipment, no I have not seen them all, so maybe.
They are all cats the last one is a d343, one of the first high speed engines. My dad had one in a little tugboat. The motor in the dozer is a d342. The second one was a popular 50 to 80kw generator engine.
@@allen84jr That second one has the oh-so-familiar exhaust note of Cat engines from the early days into the 60's at least, including generator sets and heavy equipment. You could tell it was a Caterpillar engine even from far away just from that sound. Videos don't do them justice, but other than at local steam fairs and such, that's all we have.
@@tdkpe1 my parents own a tugboat company here in Louisiana. Back in the day you could here a tugboat and tell what engines it had. Detroit, Cummins, or cat. Now a days all motors sound the same. It sucks
Didnt see a 3524b or a c175-20 the biggest and beat cat motor in my opinion beat for longevity and best for big payloads and speed. Can do 68kph -47mph with 400t on its back
@@jmac2o229 they are basically like a motorcycle clutch pack. On each wheel. Called a wet brake system.( there is a few different names for them dont roast me youtube) 😂🤣 hydraulic oil pressure cooling , moving the friction pads back and forward , it’s actually pretty sic man. Well worth a google or a TH-cam if you . Caterpillar wet brake setup. They have a jake assembly aswell. Hope my memory is correct ahah not a caterpillar tech just a HD mechanic.
@@mohinderkaur6671 If you sincerely believe that any US president has the ability to control oil prices up or down you are a stone idiot. Try placing the blame where it belongs, with the oil companies who have, and continue, to post record profits.
@@mohinderkaur6671 Once again instead of offering up facts, we get an attempt at childish name calling. To quote an infamous being, aka TFG; "I love the uneducated."
@@queenienicole7823 Dear, I don't know where you live, but if it in an area in the north where it gets below 0, just find a truck stop or any where there are trucks parked and wait around till someone fires their engine. You'll see and smell it real quick.
I guess Cats are the diesel equivalent to the McCullough chain saw? Can't start 'em, but once they go its fine? Ever see a chainsaw murderer use a McCullough? Nope.
My old uncle Hank was a diesel mechanic starting way back in the 40's. I went to an auction with him back in the 80's & asked him how come the Caterpillars were bringing so much more money than the rest of the stuff. He simply said "Because they're worth it". I later went to work for Cat & their attention to quality control was the most impressive I've ever seen.
Thank you Warren for the kind comments. I work in the engine side for CAT and Safety and Quality are our vocal points. No matter what year the machine is we have the parts!.
Always strive to be an Old Uncle Hank👍🏻
While CAT’s are good motors, I always found when they failed, they failed catastrophically. Especially the 3406B’s. But that being said, nothing like seeing yellow under a peterbilt hood.
How old is your uncle?😮
As an h/d truck tech in the late 70's early 80's, the 1693's, 3406's & 3408's were the gold standard for truck engines, commanded respect and admiration from drivers and techs alike. If there was any way you could afford one you got one. The high pitched "snap" of them firing was music to our ears
Dad had a 3406 in his Western Star... It sounded so sweet...
Hearing them fire to life is such a fantastic sound
The duty cycle on those starter motors!
Love the sound and 'determination' of those big engines struggling to start
In the USA, glow plugs for diesel engines seem to be considered unnecessary. It seems perfectly normal there that the starter motor has to agonize for a long time before the first cylinder can collect the necessary heat for auto-ignition. You can tell by the fact that white clouds come out of the exhaust for a long time. There is another way: The engines from 2:03 and 3:09 show how engines start with intact glow plugs.
Most likely those engines reluctant to start have something wrong with them, in conjunction perhaps with very cold weather. I worked for a Cat engine dealer and all our engines started very readily.
Glow plugs and other cold starting tricks are only required on small (car & small truck size) engines. Glow plugs are often used on diesel car engines where the engine is actually a gasoline engine with a diesel head conversion, eg Mercedes 180D, 220D etc. Since these are based on gasoline engines, compression could not be made high enough for good starting without glow plugs as stresses on bearings would be too great. Where teh engine was designed from the ground up as a diesel, there is no problem.
For a diesel engine to start, air temperature in the combustion chamber must increase sufficiently before top dead centre is reached. Combustion chamber volume goes up as the cube of cylinder bore size, but combustion chamber surface area only goes up as the square of bore size. So the ratio of volume to area improves as engine size goes up, and thus heat loss is less in larger engines.
The engine at 2.03 is a Cat 3516 which does not have glow plugs.
The engine at 3:09 is a Cat 3208 which does not have glow plugs. How do you know it wasn't started warm anyway?
Rosa beha Not true. Flooding the cylinders is the main reason for white smoke in a cold start diesel. Most cats especially the 3406 starts best when you leave the throttle alone and crank it for a few revolutions then slightly add throttle. They start every time even in very cold weather like that with very little smoke
Has nothing to do with being unnecessary, has to do with efficiency, they run smoother, have the potential to make a lot more power, and certainly not least, to pass increasing EPA emissions standards. There's other benefits but aren't as substantial, DI engines run better going through the mountains in the east and western US states for example.
@@oddieboi you obviously know nothing about glow plugs. They are only used to start the engine when cold
@@holmes1956O My comment wasn't even about glow plugs, it was about IDI vs DI and why IDI's aren't as common anymore.
Nothing like the 3616s. Those engines are frickin animals. I've rebuilt a few and it's amazing the power they produce and their longevity between overhauls
I love the “deeper” sound of the 3616 comparing with others
In locomotive service they got a top end rebuild every other year and a complete every two. Hardly durable or long living when an EMD can be beat on for 40 years and still run like a watch🤣
I am not familiar with the quality of cat engines, but if you look at the first two engines, it seems tha CAT makes very high quality starters :)
Quite true. It's important to remember that diesel starter motors are FAR FAR more heavy duty than most gas engine equivalents.
Caterpillar engines are some of the best engines for a wide range of industries.
California approved and certified 👌 😁😁
A very long time ago… when california was great.
I love the old Cats!
That's why they called 'em "Clatterpillars". LOL
3208. Best starting engine in our fleet. On the coldest of days that thing pops right off.
The 2:02 I really love the start and sound as it being turn over then the added volts need hearing the engines rev up was petty nice to hear.
My grandpa remembers the 1160 Caterpillar when he worked on the fire engines and water trucks at the fire department. Then they switched to the 3208 Caterpillar. Before the 1160 Caterpillar, they ran the 2 cycle Detroit diesel
Bravo colleagues, cool channel.
Very powerful
so nice to hear 3516 engine and c175 engines stsrting.
nothing beats a 3512 powered frac pump coming alive in 0 degree weather as far as cat engines go
J’ai adoré travailler sur les chenilles marines pendant de nombreuses années, ma préoccupation était le moteur électronique où j’avais plus de problèmes à cause de... Électronique !
If there were not Diesels, the world’s global economy especially transportation would have stopped exactly.🔥💪
Cool sound unless you're waiting for the lights to come back on.
They have some great batteries.
I do miss the cackle of the old cats luv those engines
I machined 4 sets of 3516 heads for a company about 10 years ago. 16 individual heads. I was sick of them after about the 3rd set. Boss gave me a raise to simmer me down.
2:21
They way the turbo comes up to sort that air fuel ratio out a bit 🤤
What? That's not what's happening at all. The generator that it drives it putting a load on the engine thus imputing more fuel thus the turbo spinning faster as a result feeding the engine more air...has nothing to do with AFR's....
@@LegalLowGround you're a bit slow huh? Pretty much exactly what I ment 🥴 just without all the "Um aKtuAllY!"
When you start them cold and you listen to them for a while as they warm up you can hear them tighten up. At the end of the day you let them idol for 15 minutes before you shut them off and you can hear the sound of the motor change. You can get very attached to a caterpillar.
It goes way past customer loyalty.
I love to watch a cold start, and because of the smoke on start up I can hear the tree huggers going into cardiac arrest. I love both!
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How dare you ? I love it
1:56 hater pipe generator, sure to make friends with the neighbors
Cool engines..all approved by Greta😎👍
Hunk and the yellow 💛 lion of Voltron!
I was hoping there was a 1693 in the vid, hands down the best sounding CAT truck engine.
1693. Are sure you got the year right.
3406!
Life is harder with Lesdyexia.
I’m convinced….all Diesels put up a fuss when they are asked to start cold.
yeah diesel cylinders need to be warm to fire
Yep just part of the deal.
Just think, in a few more decades we'll have videos of someone starting a 60 year old leccy motor up! How exciting!
No, no we won't
2:21 Max load = ON
Dang, that last engine had fuel spraying out of the filter housing
Bang goes the ozone, taps aff lads!
So caterpillar make any engines for large locomotives ?
yes, 3412's 3512's and 3516's are common in locomotives.
They own EMD, so the 710 and 1010 are technically Cat engines.
"Aaaaaaand I'm spent!" 😍😍😍
Saw some huge cat engines working in Louisiana in the oilfield industry and overhauled some smaller ones loaders 4 & 6 cylinders tough as nails
amazing how noone is protecting their ears when in proximity with these engines. :)
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Already deaf?
WHAT!?
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That pre combustion knock ?? I still don’t know how. Diesel engines stay together so long ?
No they are not pinging or detonating.
The combustion event is dramatically different than a spark ignition system.
Diesel engines are built to be much more durable than other engines, from development and architecture to better metallurgy and machining processes. They also operate at lower RPMs which equates to less wear.
Very big machine
amazing engine
nice work, greetings from Indonesia chanel🙏
Do you like these Caterpillar Engines ?
Yes
Very much so
Yes, Cats are the best.
There ain't nothing to compare like a caterpillar the Workhorse of the world.
They are hard to start, but once they get that first off they will run all day with no issue and can be shut down and restarted over and over
Caterpillar genset super heavy duty... All system destroyed burn but the engine and motor not have any single problems ☺️☺️☺️ TC settings is the winner against BTDC or TDC🤣🤣🤣
Amazing
So, this is why backup diesels in Chernobyl failed to come on line within one minute?
When you wake up in the morning
Caterpeter started out with a subsidiary that was well known worldwide to be the BEST gas turbine engines in the world. It took them 30 years, but they finally hit bottom.
OB one drove them out of the country just like he did GM.
Why are they so hard to start. My 3208t starts every time in about fifteen seconds. Thinking they are in need of an overhaul.
I guess the idea is to crank it till the starter gets hot enough to heat the engine.
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Sounds like some of these engines could use a sniff of ether
I did see a can of Caterpillar Cocaine on the floor of one of the last tractors.
@@topixfromthetropix1674 caterpillar cocaine LMAO!
Oh boy someone had to SPARK up the comments.
should i feel bad for the batteries or the starter
yes
Naw not at all. These engines have multiple starters and multiple batteries so they can handle some extended cranking.
My family has been building Caterpillar Equipment since the company was established. I am probably the only one in the family that has not worked for them.
why am I so obsessed with those engines? Am I sick?
My husband obsessed....
those newer engines are so much cleaner on start up.some of the old ones, you need a gas mask by the time their firing on all the cylinders.
2:03 uhh i like 😍
Looking for an old school CAT mechanic to talk to about getting a CAT engine conversion running
0:40 the engine sounds like it’s half asleep lol
That’s because it’s half awake.
That 2nd guy burned the starter up almost
3516 is a good unit, but not in all regions it can be used, which is a pity
They always start quicker if you paint them.
I would be rather embarrassed if something I took care of took that long to start.
For a small fee I’ll save you from that embarrassment and take that Caterpillar off your hands.
Just because it is yellow, doesn't make it a CAT, I think you have some other brands mixed in there. The second engine doesn't look familiar, the crawler dozer could be something else, and the last one??? I have worked on a lot of Cat engines and equipment, no I have not seen them all, so maybe.
They are all cats the last one is a d343, one of the first high speed engines. My dad had one in a little tugboat. The motor in the dozer is a d342. The second one was a popular 50 to 80kw generator engine.
@@allen84jr That second one has the oh-so-familiar exhaust note of Cat engines from the early days into the 60's at least, including generator sets and heavy equipment. You could tell it was a Caterpillar engine even from far away just from that sound. Videos don't do them justice, but other than at local steam fairs and such, that's all we have.
@@tdkpe1 my parents own a tugboat company here in Louisiana. Back in the day you could here a tugboat and tell what engines it had. Detroit, Cummins, or cat. Now a days all motors sound the same. It sucks
Who needs a cooling system ?
First engine I learned and DRIVE like a TOYS 😅😅 bulldozer caterpillar
2Mins ... Did engine blow a seal / spring a leak at bottom of engine at front.
Didnt see a 3524b or a c175-20 the biggest and beat cat motor in my opinion beat for longevity and best for big payloads and speed. Can do 68kph -47mph with 400t on its back
the hell kind of brakes does something like that have goddamn
@@jmac2o229 they are basically like a motorcycle clutch pack. On each wheel.
Called a wet brake system.( there is a few different names for them dont roast me youtube) 😂🤣
hydraulic oil pressure cooling , moving the friction pads back and forward , it’s actually pretty sic man.
Well worth a google or a TH-cam if you .
Caterpillar wet brake setup.
They have a jake assembly aswell. Hope my memory is correct ahah
not a caterpillar tech just a HD mechanic.
good day. please info price. thanks
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The first one could pull a small cargo train, or a passenger train, I would bet.
2:45 2:04
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They need s good mechanic i think
In childhood I always thought that caterpillar products use electric motors that powered by something like fuel pills I don't know why?
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And today we are going to learn about hearing protection......
........ha? ...say what?...
I made a career out of working on EMD Locomotives, and when Cat bought EMD, our quality went to hell
Imagine running these with the current diesel prices thanks to JOE Byedun and his Climate Mafia racketeering!
Hope you have thanked Biden for bringing the fuel prices back down . . .
@@denali9449 after doubling them reduce 50 cents nice racket
@@mohinderkaur6671 If you sincerely believe that any US president has the ability to control oil prices up or down you are a stone idiot. Try placing the blame where it belongs, with the oil companies who have, and continue, to post record profits.
@@denali9449 likewise super genius!
@@mohinderkaur6671 Once again instead of offering up facts, we get an attempt at childish name calling. To quote an infamous being, aka TFG; "I love the uneducated."
I'm curious to know what that smoke smells like 🤷🏾♀️🤣🤣🤣 weird ok but I do love the sound ...jw🤔
It smells and feels like half burnt diesel fuel.
@@wawota1956 I think i would love that smell 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤣🤣
@@queenienicole7823 Dear, I don't know where you live, but if it in an area in the north where it gets below 0, just find a truck stop or any where there are trucks parked and wait around till someone fires their engine. You'll see and smell it real quick.
@@wawota1956 🤣🤣🤣 ohhh ok that's what I pictured when you said diesel sometimes it stinks sometimes to me it smells good 🤦🏾♀️
It smells beautiful
sound like no more pressure
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I guess Cats are the diesel equivalent to the McCullough chain saw? Can't start 'em, but once they go its fine? Ever see a chainsaw murderer use a McCullough? Nope.
My grandpa built cat engines for them
The sound is scary ☢️☢️
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Is that Gasoline engine
Cats are fine so long as you got lots of cheap oil
Seems to me that someone doesn't know about cold aid gadgets or at least starting fluids.
you mean spraying a can of explosive aresol into the intake? ok
@@Truck_person gentiman not a can, just a mist into the intake manifold, standard procedure within the diesel engines industry.
@@JesusTorres-qr1gz Intake manifold? You must work on gassers.
We are looking for 3600 series cores. Gas.
I'll take the KT Cummings over any cat
Cummins..
I have no clue why Cat would stay in Illinois and be taxed to death...
They’re not staying in Illinois.
They left out the memo that Cat is moving to Irving, Texas.
FFS. Why don’t they use easy start for the old engines ?
still going belching out fumes
Second engine is a Detroit