How Good Is A Land Rover 101 Off-Road?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- After spending several days bringing our Land Rover 101 back to life, we take it off-road for it's final "test".
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Brings back great memories of the 1 tonne (as it was called in the army). We did trials of these when I was in 2 Para and we took delivery of them in approx 76/7. Going from a 2.2 ltr 1/2 or 3/4 ton to a v8 3.5 was totally awesome. Throw in the diff lock and it was just perfect. My only complaint was that they were 12v. As they got older, in crap cold/damp weather they could be a right bastard to start and with old batteries, you could have a flat motor in no time trying to start it. Some said it had too high a centre of gravity but I didnt find that. It would slide sideways well before it would topple over. The sound alone was fkng AWESOME. I drove them all over the country/world and have awsome memories of them.
You just can't beat rolling round in an old army truck! Driving it round town will be just as much fun too!
As soon as we can get it back on the road we'll do just that!
I drove them when the British army first got them,
Brilliant on road and xcountry but deadly fully loaded xcountry,
Ask the morter lads.
Good vid lads.. my 101 is an overland camper now and I LOVE IT.... even when it broke down (steering box blew out on a Mountain) that vid is on our channel. Good to see it in its element
I drove one of these when I was in the TA it's was fitted out for a mortar section with FFR (fitted for radio) and was 24 volt.
It had it limition off road and needed to be respected but good off road training would make it easier drive. The 'one ton' was a compromise between the MOD and Land Rover, personally I didn't think the one ton was 'soldier proof' if driven hard on long journeys it had its problem, the viscous dif connecting the for wheel drive being one and over heating was another.
All the one ton wagons were regulated so you couldn't get the ture top speed, which leads me on to a story about one of our one tons which had a problem on a German Autobahn and having two mechanics in our unit they took the regulators off to get it to where we wanted to be. Back home in the UK it was due to go to workshops but not for some weeks which ment we had the full potential of the V8 engine.
Slipping the clutch at traffic lights would make it bounce on all 4 wheels betting away any hot hatch away from the lights🤣🤣🤣 saying all that I love driving it👍
Had the joy of driving a 101 ambulance in Germany (BAOR) for 2 years , stunning off road performance, never got stuck ,even going where the tanks went and the best bit? I was getting payed to do it!
Were you WRAC?
Its good to see a 101 doing what its been designed for. Will you be putting a soft top on it?
The centre diff is exactly that. It doesn’t lock the diffs, it locks the diffs together. When you say the centre diff isn’t working, you can clearly see it is as one of the front wheels is spinning! This will always happen unless you have locking axle diffs. One way to combat this without locking diffs is to do a bit of left foot braking. This will even up the power delivery between the wheels on a single axle. This comes with experience when you get older.
Nah, don't left foot brake, DRIVE FASTER! :)
I drove them in the Army, brilliant bit of kit, I love driving them.
Awesome piece of machinery I was chatting to a gentleman on my local Tesco car park today after he came out of the store and caught me admiring his pristine condition willys jeep complete with original tools attached to the side,canvas wash bucket on the back,original first aid kit and M1 Garand carbine stashed under the windscreen I don’t know which I like most 👍🏻
Would love to try a Willys!
I have a Pinzgauer. Similar idea you sit over the front wheels in the engine is right between the passengers. It does incredible off-road and it’s so funny when you have a passenger and you drive over a speedbump because It feels like you’re going to hit the ground
Nisse's face at 9:31 is priceless
I enjoyed the video. I drove one of these for the purpose it was built. I rarely had the luxury of driving on a track when I took it off road. Still, the track looked quite challenging. I don't ever recall having any cut out problems when driving down a steep gradient. Perhaps I just always had plenty of fuel in it.
Shame it didn’t have the winch still fitted (hole on the Dvr side under VRN) this could be rerouted through the rear of the vehicle and you’d be safe in the knowledge if ‘bogged in’ you’d be capable of self recovery, which is great when stuck in the middle of nowhere. Very capable wagon in its day.
Gear stick nearly behind you! I drove these. A rev of that V8 motor would set off most car alarms!
"nice to see a 101 with mud".. it's just nice to see a 101 driving..
all I want is more sunny day fun on the tracks ( but fix the centre diff lock & really test the old beast )
Simply fantastic ...! Thanks guys and looking forward for more of your interesting videos on TH-cam soon. Regards.
Great piece of kit but for some strange reason used to bend distributor shafts making it impossible to set points and run badly.
Looks like you guys had a blast.
So the diff locks weren't working or it doesnt have any?? Great project.
It has a centre diff lock, operated by the big black button rear of the choke, but he didn't engage it for some reason. It has a light to show it's engaged, between the two clocks.
Easy test, just go into a gravel plant and climb the 3/4 minus pile. Up and down without tumbling. That is the natural angle of repose and it you cannot do it. you better stay ON ROAD!.
Iguana
No diff locks, besides the center?
Correct.
Axle locks would have added. For trained drivers, no problem. Anyway. Nice truck
Brilliant video, love the 101's, a tip have a bit of extra weight in the back to help it with traction offroad as they are pretty light in the back :)
btw might need to check the vacuum lines to the center diff ;)
needs a rear diff lock, or front and rear
100 /100 BRILLIANT !!!!!!
That's the English equivalent of the legendary Buchanka :)
Have drove a buchanka and it was great also own 2 101
What fun....
In 1976 I went from Chelsea barracks in London with 5 others to pick 6 of these up new from the vehicle depot in Ashchurch for Support company for the mortar platoon. What was amazing was the V8😀. When back in London I was at a set of traffic lights when a taxi pulled up. Lights changed and off I went. Next set of light the taxi driver (who had never seen one before) shouted over what the f**k is in that😀. A few years later when I was at a workshop in Tidworth we had one as a forward repair vehicle which had a crane fitted on it to support CVRT, we could carry a J60 (6 cylinder Jag) engine or the TN15 gearbox. Really top heavy with either on off road. Happy memories, it’s not often you’re the first one to pick up and drive a new into service vehicle. Great vid👍
Thanks for watching and sharing your story!
What kind of engine does this vehicle have? Reminds me alot of the Swedish tgb 11.
Rover 3.5
Rover V8 engine and a manual gearbox with vacuum operated centre diff lock (same as Range Rover)petrol in 12v form for general use and 24v condition in the Fitted for Radio versions. Last time I looked the 24v distributor was £1000+ Don't buy a 24v version.
This thing needs some locking diffs
No locks?
It has a center diff lock, but it looks like it wasn't functioning. If it were, nothing they encountered would have stopped them.
Yeah they're charming and fun but old tech can be problematic. Still that can be half the joy of owning!
Yeah Allen new tech is not problematic at all is it my friends 200 series spends most of its life at the auto electricians
Old tech -= no computers = win,win
Это же моя мечта! Меняю на шишигу!
Hi guys where is this please love the truck is it a v8 or diesel ....thankyou
V8 petrol was standard, some private ones may have been converted. Look at 6-10 MPG on road empty. worse loaded.
3.5L Rover V8, in Denmark!
TirsbaekTV thanks guys great collection of toys .good luck
Land Rover should make a modern version of 101 to compete against the Mercedes Unimog.
LR kicked the UK MOD into touch years ago when we went to them for talks on a 90/110 replacement. Not enough to warrant keeping the MOD/special build assembly line going when they wanted more lines available for Freelander etc. Marines and RA were then issued with Pinzgauers in 4x4 and 6x6 versions. The main reason for change was the 101 is petrol and the replacement had to be diesel. The only thing capable of pulling the 105 howitzers was the Pinz. The Pinz is a great tool but horrendously complex and hence expensive.
The 101 exudes character and soul as opposed to other Land Rover products.I still believe that a mordern 101 is possible becuase the G Wagen,the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and the Unimog are currently used for civilian activities despite their military origins.
@@dartmoordave We got the "Wolf" rovers to replace our old 110/90 Defenders which we had had for 20+ years.
The 1 tonner lannies were replaced by Reynolds Boughton RB44's with Landrover 127/130's filling some roles before Pinzgauers were procured to replace the troubled RB44 in some units (also adopted by the Airborne Forces as it had a greater payload and could be underslung)
The MoD stopped buying Landrovers due to costs, the Bowman kit would not fit in the backs with operators (even in the 110's it was tight for one person), lack of protection (public scrutiny and sudden care about casualties).
@@chaz8758 I was there through all of it, 37.5 years worth.
@@dartmoordave I was serving through the series 3's to the wolf's including some old legacy series 2A's we had into 1998.
Just saying what we had and when and what the MoD said and what we found with the bowman fits and on ops.
The one tonnes for example were prone to rolling when loaded, the RB44 not it's pinzgauer replacement had that habit (the RB44 had a kak load of others though).
The armoured pinz were a joke and a waste of money.
Your take seems LR gave the MoD the boot - for the MoD though LR could not provide a suitable vehicle (wolf/Bowman trials vehicles were widely reported to have structural issues when kitted out).
Wolf's were reported to have cost over 40k each and many were written off (and the stupid warranty kak when we got them was arse for repairs in camp never mind ops).
i want one.....
Thought all 101 are right hand drive until seeing this.
LHD was used in BAOR. Oddly enough. My regiment only had one of these in Germany. It was right hand drive.
@@martinramsey114 I'm guessing it was the ambulance in your regiment? I was a scaley and we had 8 of them all in our troop, in rebro detachments.
We need sand driving test
Only thing lets them down is diff clearance, really.
I want one of them in the biggest way great to see her getting dirty
Het the 101 VS the unimog
comparing the unimog to a 101 isn't correct, they are completely different designs, unimog is more a lorry and equipped with difflockers all round, portal axles, things a 101 doesn't have so would't be a fair comparison
Robert Pedersen it would still be cool to see though
Bleu Turff it could be fun to see but the difference would be huge win to the unimog
Robert Pedersen oh yeah totally the unimog has the upper hand for sure
That thing sounds like a vacuum cleaner
These are x country vehicles not for well used tracks. You could have released the steering wheel and the vehicle would have found its own way. Invading army's didn't use established route s.!! They went x country!!!
From the days when driving across the country side would win a war.
Nice big toy
/7
From about 6:30 to 7:00 you can see where the front diff has been grounding out and 'ploughing'. As I see it this is one of the major limitations to the 101's (and Land Rovers in general) off-road capabilities. Vehicles with portal axles like the Pinzgauer don't have the same problem. Add to that only a central (Transfer box) diff lock, no diff-locks on the axles, (meaning you can still get wheel-spin and loss of drive on an axle as I understand it) and the off-road performance becomes marginal in my view.
if its over 40 yrs it doesnt need an mot any more
Petrol V8
@@garethonthetube doesnt make any difference petrol or diesel over 40 years no mot
@@peterjames2004 Sorry, must have replied in the wrong section! I was responding to another post.
Two people with a very capable vehicle with no idea how to drive off road or pick a line through muddy tracks without grounding the differential casings. What a waste.
Or perhaps we were just trying to have some fun and make an entertaining video? There's plenty of experience between us, but this would have been a pretty boring video if we'd driven around any challenging obstacle.
Boring I fell asleep
These things were absolutely useless, I had a fleet of them and operated them in the Falkland Islands, water got straight onto the distributor cap and plugs and would pack up in any watery conditions. The back end had no traction and was just front heavy.
Spent a small fortune renovating the Commando ones in Plymouth and then they binned them for the Pinzgauer. Leaf springs and no diff locks made them graded tracks only.
Any pickup has traction issues in the back if you don't add weight.
Oh god yes - the first sniff of water and you were being towed out - very frustrating
Wish i'd bought one of these when the MOD were knocking them out for £2000!
Be glad you didn't. Buy a Toyota Hilux instead if you want to off road.
Ditto
Toyota hi lux my ass.
Dartmoor Dave A Hilux is fine, but no one looks twice at them, and in a few years they are virtually worthless. A 101 is unique, even more versatile, and no matter what you do to it will only ever increase in value. You don't buy one for practicality, you buy one because there is nothing else quite like them out there.
@@spencerwilton5831 ditto to that
@@spencerwilton5831 I think you have to look at the 101 as a user or collector. I was heavily involved in the maintenance of the last of the 101's the Marine gunners had in Plymouth. During that time I had cause to visit the MOD stores at the request of a stores officer because I was demanding an unusual amount of parts for brakes, steering, engines etc. While there I went to a long-neglected shed where his records showed a number of stock numbers held. What the records showed was an assembly, qty 6. Thinking these were transmissions we opened the doors and there were 6 brand new, never issued 101's, complete with service history, engine run ups and oil changes. I attempted to get them issued to the Marines but found the Pinzgauer was due soon and no more repairs were authorised so that was that. What happened to the 6 I don't know because I moved on to another post. They are either still there or some trade person with an inside track got hold of them.
Great fun to drive but high maintenance. Your choice.
Massive fan of the 101 videos! great video!!
Hey guys.
Awesome trucks!
I've seen a few of your vids, hence the plural.
I have recently acquired a left hand drive, Series 1, pickup, here in Canada.
It is all original, but, missing the steering wheel.
It has no rust, anywhere, and, still has the original windows. ..
I've owned a Series 2,5 door station wagon, (which my dog and I lived in for a summer).
It had a Mitsubishi turbo diesel conversion.
What a job that was...
That one is long gone....sadly.
But, now starts a new "series" of adventures.
At 6'2", and a 100 kilos, she is a tight squeeze...but..hey..
I've been watching this particular truck since 1978...
Now I own it...
Great examples of the 101....
Thanks for the vids...
Drove a 101 in HK, loved it, only glad I never had to pay to fill the tank
Hi guys, good video as always !
I'm french and I bought my first Land Rover, it's a 1989 110 2,5l turbo diesel 3 doors and I ask me if it's legal to replace the silencer by a straight pipe
Continue like this !
Thanks
Thanks. That depends on the laws in France.
TirsbaekTV okay thanks but even with the silencer she makes a lovely song haha.
you need some ballast in the back, It will transform it off road!
Thanks, we'll look into this.
I have a 101 and a Haflinger and as forward control vehicles neither like going down hills with holes in the tracks. Only way to do is as was done in the video - go slow so there is no momentum and carefully let the wheel into the holes - often lifting the back wheels - be careful of the lurch when carefully letting wheels into holes as the lurch can become a tip over. I have wider Mach 6 rims on my 101 which make the track a bit wider and the vehicle a bit more stable. I have had my 101 for 10 years and you soon learn the signs. Weight in the back does make a difference but lugging it around is a pain.
We use 1 ton bags of sand, but you do need a forklift or a engine hoist to load them! The bag settles over most of the load bed, then a couple of rachet straps to keep it secure, and off you go. I am also fitting a detroit no spin in the back axle soon.
Hi Kevin - you do need to be practical and carrying 1 ton in the back is really not an option - careful driving can suffice. I am from Australia and our 101s actually have a higher load rating of 1500kg so I guess I would need to find even more sand :-)
I have had a Detroit in the rear of mine since 2009 and you will wonder why you did not do it before.
Hi Joe, have been using the 101 for nearly twenty years, with all sorts of weight in the back, from firewood to horse manure, so 1 ton is an easy day for it, Apart from blowing the centre diff and the steering box it has been great (touching wood as I say it) The first off road event I took it to, it would not climb a damp grassy hill that even freelanders romped up, bar grips, don't you love them?
Good video. Used to off road our 101 quite heavily a few years ago. Got some footage on my own channel of that. Back in the 90's you were almost guranteed to see a 101 or something bigger turn up at an off road event.
Any one who does up aland rover gets a sub from me.
The v8 sound track too what's not to like........
Had to laugh at Nisses' reaction at 3:35 - having been fortunate enough to drive a 101 once (only on road), I know just how horrible it feels sitting right over the front wheels like that. It's offputting enough just when you're turning out onto a road, where you feel like you're travelling in a big arc out onto the wrong side while the rest of the truck is on the correct side. Being up there on the drop into a boghole would feel like hanging off the front bumper of a rollercoaster.
And at the end - "It's got some grunt!" "That was only 40..." So very true, they feel incredibly fast - until it's screaming away in 4th, and you look down to find you're only doing 60km/h... Still an awesome vehicle though, just sadly out of my budget by far over here these days (I couldn't deal with it as a daily).
A quick tip that works for me sometimes - when the starter is playing up like that, if you give the key a just a very quick flick, let it return then really quickly turn the key again, sometimes you can get it to engage easier. Think it works because you throw the pinion halfway on the first flick, and if you can get back on the key quick enough, you can give it a bit more throw before it starts to spin. Used to do it on the old 2 door Rangie down home, before I got round to pulling out the starter (which turned out to have a knackered pinion bearing, and practically no brushes left). If you didn't do that, it would start cranking, then come out of mesh and freespin.
You obviously have not driven FWC vehicles that often, in a bus one is sitting a metre or so in front of the front axle.
Why don't you drive of line. Surley be better than following the deep tracks?
2004, took mine offroad at billing. The crew that took the pictures told me they regretted selling their ambulance, but loved watching mine go where others got stuck!
You guys are very sympathetic, driving a 101 Land Rover and wearing a back to the future t-shirt :-) Thumb up!
A better driver and off-road tyres would help.
I always liked the look of the 1 ton lanny. 1st time I saw one it was being used for the mortar platoon in the 80,s. They do fetch a bit more money than a convential land rover. Otherwise I may have owned one .
Took a 101 ambulance around Stanta tank training ground once, we were lost....Turned up to the parade looking like we had already done an exercise. Great fun.
1st gear and use engine braking never use brakes
@J.C. Kohle have you been offroading before? 1st gear is one of the best gears to use with the engine when descending any faster and your doomed
Not in a 1 tonne.
I use to make 101s out of lego haha. Love it
I found changing the cross-ply bar grips to radial ply Michelin XLs (still 900x16) made a huge difference both on road and off road - grip, handling, ride and making the steering a lot lighter during low speed manoeuvring. And the XLs are still an army tyre, so don't look out of place if trying to keep the vehicle looking reasonably original
Laden with radio kit in exactly the same formation as in a LR 110, it was one of the most lethal pieces of kit I've ever driven. I was the Road Safety NCO on a mobile signals unit, and was asked to test one. We took it on known routes in German forestry - the damned thing fell over three times, and we had to winch out or call for help. Dreadful thing. It wasn't much fun ON road, either.
The much feared standard fit BAR Tread tyres. Lethal when wet. Been there seen them.
Oh man where to start?
1) use diff lock.
2) in ruts- turn the tyres so they’re grabbing the sides of the ruts.
3) use left foot braking
4) aftermarket Carbs (webers) are notorious for fuel starvation on hills - stick to SU carbs or go efi / convert to Diesel injection)
5) reduce tyre pressure off road - adds more traction than anything else.
Unladen that 20- could do with 5 full Jerry cans above the rear axle
awesome
Tremendous fun ... most people don't realise how capable these are off road! Cheers chaps.
Thanks Matt.
I loved my 101in the 90s , still wish I had it as pushed to sell it by police harassment , total wankers as it was taxed n motd One of the cops said it was intimidating , it was my daily driver ,prices have skyrocketed for some reason , can’t understand why as cost of living makes it impossible to own one now , tried to buy a pinzgauer 716 diesel but yet again prices got to high yet again ,
I like the idea that in 35 years there will be enthusiasts trying to get Mastiffs back on the road!
Listen to that engine. Thanks for sharing. My dream vehicle (or a Stolly)
I dream of a man kat 1 or uaz 452.
123sheepdip when I was a small boy my dad used to take me to work at the weekends I can still remember the smell of the stollys ferrets and chieftains still love all those vehicle’s
Sadly the engine was the most gutless version of the Rover aluminium V8, made to run on shit petrol. A good V8 in high spec would transform it but there's no getting away from stone age suspension and transmission.
Thanks for watching!
Why not make your own defender 90 a soft top? The conversion isnt too expensive on Exmoor! And of course what an awesome 101 you guys have got there :)
Thanks! It wouldn't be ideal as it's my only car, and the weather here can be unpredictable. I need a hard top right now, but one day I'm sure I'll find room in my life for a soft top :)
I drove a one tonner with my battalions mortar platoon ... she needed high revs and diff lock going through deep mud ...and ruts ...if looked after a superb motor
wonderful vehicle . i get mine dirty on a regular basis. have a look at my vids
Great bit of kit drove them all over the world pulling 105mm light artillery gun Royal artillery including in Denmark nato ace mobile force
Good to see... saw many of these on camp as a child.. always thought they were special.
So glad to see it had STD tyres on which looked half bald, what an amazing vehicle
Keep up the good work guys!
I need a tipper version for tree work...already have a 130 tipper🤔😆
Much more 101 rides please.
My favourite Landry still considering an ambulance or radio car/vampire as a camper
Darren Jones 12 to 15 mpg if you’re lucky. A bit pricey for civie use.
Loving your videos guys. Thank you!
I love all your videos
Vacuum operated centre diff lock I guess? *Dana axels under licence, theV8 can’t kill them :D
Great action! Thanks!
101 with mud on, rare?
th-cam.com/video/rALhXI02LwQ/w-d-xo.html
Mine's the one up to its axles being winched out.
And fix that difflock, they've got next to no articulation, so it really is needed. It's most likely a melted vacuum line next to the right hand exhaust manifold
Used to do lot of road in 101 boxed in rear wheel arches to form storage box for off road gear to add weight over rear , did disc brake conversion drum brakes were always full of mud ,fitted isuzu 2.8 turbo diesel, very good eng good for 80 mph, had mechanical captain winch front /Rear brilliant bit of kit .
Can I get in contakt vith Tirsbaek if They have an FC 101 fore sale
None of our 101's are currently for sale 🙂
I got one😎😎
Road test it
When MOT, roadtrip. On beach Løkken -> Blokhus for the 101. Will join you in my 90 if you want. (Hornborg)
Good one! 👍
Awesome video, keep it up!
for fun video check out another brit. ( bushwacker man on you tube ) called ' Land rover 101 walk around'. in joy