Passage of Portland’s daytime homeless camp ban met with skepticism
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- People living out on the streets say they don’t know what to do or how to comply. But at least one business owner thinks the ban doesn’t go far enough.
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Camping??? LMAO!!!! The guy with the mohawk was so high he could barely talk.
Some severe mental illnesses are treated with muscle relaxants and it's none of your business nor means a thing what a person's self expression appears to be.
@@iamwhoyousayiam6773 GET THEM OFF OF THE STREET!
@@iamwhoyousayiam6773 lmaooo not you defending a druggie. You do know that person does NOT care about their life, that’s why he’s in the street being scum.
@@iamwhoyousayiam6773cope city right here lmao 🤣
Trippy vibes man....duhhh duhhhh. What a loser.
The "other reason" Mohawk Man doesn't want to go to jail: Drugs cost more on the inside.
Mohawk Man if he was incarcerated would be made to go to the jail rehab program during the 30 days he was in jail. He would be put on Methadone, as well. He would come out hopefully drug free and able to find employment to be able to afford an apartment or at least get on social welfare and subsidized housing.
@@DavidHalversondrug addicts have priority, even over the mentally ill. 🙁
@@3rksumThat point right there! Dave is from LA LA land!
So move your tent, you get warned 3 times, and than you get a roof over your head, free meals, and a safe though not comfortable place to sleep, for 30 days? Yeah that sounds like a punishment. So how are they going to get the 100 bucks from someone that only owns a tent?
You think jail is safe?
I keep hearing this argument over and over, lol free meals and a place to stay for free! Ok why are you not doing it as well? If it’s so freaking nice.
@@justsa2360 no, it’s definitely not. Prison, ironically is not as bad because people are settled into their own territory and space, but jail is not. Jail is actually worse. In far as abuse received from inmates and county jailers themselves. But all depends of course. Some prisons can be pretty unsafe as well.
@@Bluespicygreen so you are saying that jail in this country is not safe compare to being outside in the homeless encampment
@@justsa2360 correct. You are not in a cell by yourself, you are often in a room with a group of people. If you have a temporary cell mate, they often have “thing to prove” and won’t hesitate to stop you into the ground just for clout.
Homeless encampment, are basically little villages. People know each other and keep an eye on one another. Like I said of course people have disputes and newcomers will cause trouble but for the most part it’s safer than jail.
Ultimately it’s better for these people to be housed, it saves tax payers money (& no you can’t argue on this fact, it’s been thoroughly researched over many years).
If you go on over to the mayor's house or the councilman 's houses you can camp their lawns
all I needed to hear is "focused on those who REFUSE services" ... EXACTLY. The homeless that WANT help ARE getting it. These asses just want to live like animals and make a mess everywhere they go.
They should not be able to refuse services. The state should build some simple camps away from the city. All these people should be rounded up and placed in the camps where they can be detoxed, receive mental health counseling, and work at menial jobs until they can be returned to society. The state should work with local industries to have the ones that want to work placed in jobs but this present situation cannot continue.
@@thomasdragosr.841 yeah but the last time the vote went through for the jails we can’t even have jail mates do street cleanups anymore because it’s “slavery.” So “rounding” anyone up is going to instantly scare the liberals into thinking it’s concentration camps 🙄
@@thomasdragosr.841 That would go against the supreme court decision O'Conner v. Donaldson.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Connor_v._Donaldson
@@thomasdragosr.841 That would be called a prison labor camp, or in the Soviet Union it would be have been called a gulag. Would like to add medical experimentation to that? Dr. Mengele?
@@oliverheaviside2539 I didn't say a prison camp. They would be well fed, get detoxed, medical and mental help, and some kind of training so they could be productive. They would be able to leave when they are well enough to function. The way it is now they are a drag on society, they have hit bottom and need help to get going and sometimes you have to remove them from their present surroundings to start the process. As far as Dr. Mengele goes, he would be proud of all these sickos who think it's a good idea to perform sex changes on children.
Why are people mad at this? The voters of Portland voted for the politicians that prioritize crime over their citizens.
When you Left then think you should have gone Right.
I'm not mad, it proves how evil Democrats are.
I wish we could show this video to people in 1983,1993,2003,2013 and let them know where their "tolerance" will lead them.
When you really just want to kill the homeless but big govbermet won’t let you 😢
@@BluespicygreenYou are sick in the head if you think leaving people to their addictions and to die on the streets is the most humane option. Really vile of you to think that way.
@@Bluespicygreen How many of these parasites do you living in your house with you? Put your money where your mouth is.... You radical leftists are always generous - with other peoples' money!
@@Bluespicygreen Your namesake, Mao Zedong, is responsible for the deaths of as many as 50 Million people.
Pick a new name if you are going to virtue signal about the value of human life and accuse others of being killers.
Just a note.. if they had enforced existing laws they would not have this problem now..
Yeah I don't see why we don't make poverty illegal. If you make less than poverty wages, straight to jail. That'll solve all our problems.
Portland so high in drugs that it does not penetrate into their brains
these are addicts...no sober person lives in a tent in the inner city 🤣
@@HypeBeast764You mean being a bum? A sane person knows how to get back on their feet! It doesn't take long! That's a fact!
So true!
These are not homeless people's these are Street people. And Street people like it this way. Portland's just Disneyland to them
The people on the streets don't want help, they just want to be able to do their drugs without being harassed......
My mother stopped paying my older brother, her adult son, his rent. He complained it made his life harder too. It’s the first time he was faced with responsibilities and consequences that people in reality must face.
Damn I hope your brother gets to go to jail and experience some force labor like these homeless people will thankfully experience. I have a lot of money invested in the prison industrial complex and we need to fill up those prisons to ensure we can sell the labor and get a decent ROI.
@@HypeBeast764 absolutely!!!
GOOD for your Mom!
@@HypeBeast764the law of attraction finds everyone
I'm more interested in why that maintenance man has been collecting used needles for 2 years,throw them shits away man
Why do we tax payer need to continue being "compassionate". When the people who voted for this crap can give me an honest answer to "why is it ok for these people to screw up our city with no consequences, while i will get true prison time if i dain to defend myself from these gutter trash?" No sympathy whatsoever
Voted for?
i dont think the problem with America is too much compassion, i would actually argue the opposite, this is the result of years of organizating society by the invisible hand principle. this is the result of apathy and every person for themselves. drugs are the problem, not homeless people. the fact shelter isnt a human right is the problem.
homeless, the answer is in the question, how do you solve homelessness? by homeness
Why do we allow billionaires to hoard all the wealth that the "essential" workers create?
Those are some of the most sensible shoes I've ever heard
I agree. Locating your business right next to a homeless encampment is really great business idea.
@@3rksum It's okay, I know you're too stupid to realize that under Ted Wheeler leadership, the most pro corporate and conservative leaning mayor portland has had in decades, the homelessness rate has increase nearly 10 fold, and continue to get worse everyday. I know you're too stupid because you will keep voting for Ted instead of voting for someone who actually wants to invest money and solve the homeless problem because they will be labeled to far left by the conservative media and Ted Wheeler. And you will get what you vote for, which is no solution, no action, only watch the problem get worse and worse and worse. So stop complaining and deal with your decision.
About time. Enough feeling sorry for those campers. We should be feeling sorry for business owners and the community having to live there.
They're not campers, they're addicts with the approval of elected leadership!
Honestly we should feel sorry for both. There's a serious problem and we just keep increasing the number of people it affects, in multiple ways. Less affordable housing means more homeless, but letting homeless run rampant and hurt the community doesn't even help solve anything. It just reduces empathy for the homeless.
@@wegrata you know that most are not even from the state. They came here because of the lax drug laws. Repeal Measure 110 and you'll see them magically disappear.
@@wegrataThey are actually druggies, not really homeless, no home for drugs is their choice. In the past, drug addicts and criminals destroy the often free housing provided for them. In the 1970's a few years after welfare got going, affordable housing was developed (at great taxpayer expense) all over the US. Within 10 years, many were destroyed (some due to poor city management but mostly from the residents). By 2000, almost all such housing is now gone. It's not a housing issue, it is politicians like the Biden administration that are letting drugs flow freely across the border. To end this, druggie (don't call them homeless) need to be changed into non druggies (won't happen), drugs have to be near impossible to find, and these people need to be "given" jobs to make them self sustainable (almost all will never keep them). Those that don't comply should, sadly, die off. There is good and bad in the world, the bad has to be eliminated - sounds harsh but coddling such bad behavior for decades is destroying not only the US but the world.
After visiting California for a month i do not feel sorry for junkies on the streets. They re all deranged from drugs or mental issues i do not know, but u people should do smth with it. Either create camps with bars where they all will be sent or stopping drug flow drastically. They re deranged, it is dangerous to walk among them and besides they do their business right on the streets. Disgusting. In LA right on the walk of fame. I m still shocked and disgusted. That visit to California reminded me about the movie World War Z with brad pit. So soon the movie will be a documentary
When you have a city government meeting where every member feels the need to have his/her own individual pride flag next to them, you know you have a city in SERIOUS trouble.
this clown world is really something , to think they keep voting for these same jokers thinking there will be a different outcome ! pure insanity ! 🎉🃏🎪🍦🤡
Now repeal 110.
Fine up to $100 if they had money they wouldn't be living on the streets😮and if they dont have a permanent address how will the law find the lawbreakers
The intention is to jail them for 30 days, not open up a new revenue stream.
That will push a lot of homeless out into the burbs, same old story, been going on for over a hundred years, creating homeless camps along a river miles from town!
Maybe bums stop moving to Portland.
Also maybe bums will stay in sheltrts
Spot on, all the stinky Portlanders are flocking to areas like Beaverton bringing their terrible voting practices with them. Coincidentally the homeless are showing up leaving trash all over the place, shitting everywhere, and leaving needles all over the sidewalks. Portland smooth brains have infected the entire state.
Shantytown
Portland and many other cities have provided the perfect habitat for junkies and other criminals by decriminalizing illicit drugs and the lack of law enforcement. Word got out, and criminals have fled to these areas which are utopias for these types of people. "Laws without enforcement are only suggestions" - Thomas Sowell
for reals!!! "hey guys... come to Portland Oregon and do drugs, not only you don't get jail time but to get free resources for doing drugs! "These people here are so nice, they use their hard earned tax dollars to pay for all this!"
The other reasons dude doesnt want to go to jail is because he obviously wouldn't be able to do drugs Jail is less dangerous than living the way he is 100%
Those shelter bags are way too small to smoke fentanyl in comfortably.
Most of these people are NOT homeless because they're down on their luck. Drug use is NOT an excuse for 'Down on one's Luck.' This is not about fixing. This is about management. It's NOT going to look pretty, but 'Portland' needs to take back it's city from the druggies, no matter how it looks. I now live in Maryland after 25 years in this once beautiful rose city. I want my city back!
You need to stay there
@@MichelleZoske
🥲
It's not your city any more
Maryland doesn’t have a homeless problem
@@Robloxsofficalnews
Ya sure, and I can walk on water.
Sounds like a lot of people are going to receive court dates they won't show up for because what sense does it make to fine someone with no money.
Some tough love is the only help many of these people need! This is a start.
Making up bs is the only thing you did.
shut up jackass. try actually solving the problem, not making things worse. putting homeless in jail just makes them crazier. dumbass
Where can I get a shelter bag, I want one.
I googled shelter bag and found them but no public sale. They have a bunch of sweet little features on them also. Does not appear to be for public sale though. They should do some kind of public sale with profits going to donating these. I could find these pretty handy I think. I use a USMC 3-season bivy that does work the same but not nearly as convenient as this looks.
I want one too
Same!
@@kota3233 thanks.
Look up the legal definition of camping .ITS NOT THIS .
Junkies are more important than children in Portland! I live here, I’m voting against all this bs.
Rich people are more important than poor people in the USA
Your vote is moot. Portland, even with its innards exposed, will never vote Republican.
Make designated areas with community facilities like restrooms , showers , laundry , and microwaves .
No, you need jail for the criminals, mental health facilities for the mentality ill, addiction centers for the addicted, only then you can can you begin to help the 2 to 3% of those left over.
Yes, minimum security prison, drug rehab and mental hospitals provides the services you suggest.
Those structures you refer to with services were largely dismantled under Reagan. Oh, also a house provides those things but you have to be mentally fit enough to work and make money to afford them.
Citizens should sue the city if jail is not enforced. The city only passed this ordinance due to the ADA lawsuit.
That’s why Hitler would do.
@@DaDansinBear No. Hitler would have a permanent solution for homelessness.
@@eldiabloblanco879 he and Drumpf are very similar people.
A woman once asked me "why do my neighbors horses always run towards me? I keep giving them sugar, but they won't leave me alone!" I replied, "stupid is as stupid does" oddly, she agreed, then she gave the horses more sugar..
LMFAO. This made my day.
Is this why loads of illegals keep crossing into the USA?
We’re not talking about animals. These are human beings and part of the community wether you respect them or not.
@@murkstalinskitm5334 Your right, people should behave better than animals.
@@jimhollenbeck4488 And who gets to decide how we act? Do you think this is just an individual person problem or do you think our mental health and substance use system is failing? Do you see other countries comparable to our country that have similar problems or ones that don’t? You know what the ones that don’t have the problem do? They have access to healthcare that helps treat and prevent substance use and mental health struggles and they don’t criminalize it or shame people and play god and judge. We can all do better, treat people well and nothing bad will come of it🖤🤘🖤
not sure why they call trying to live without a home camping?
Clear em all out of Portland. They can go anywhere but here. Portland needs to get back to normal. Leave Portland Now. Been putting up with this
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.focus on "THOSE.WHO .Refuse ... '. clue!
2:56 😅
If you have a drug utopia the consequences will soon follow.
And send them... Where?
I lived in Seattle for 35 years and watched this slide into dystopia: too little, too late.
I think he said it all... Let me write it like a failing budget formula, I'm sure the city gets that . (He says "I will comply by not getting caught" )/1 + (The city says "most won't even be held accountable and go to jail" ) *1 = The new and improved Portland that is exactly the same (squared).... The alt+0178 wouldn't work in this browser. People need help, if its addiction they need help, if its a loss of income for any reason then they need help. Key is they should participate in getting the help. The people who don't need help..... investment companies that buy up all the available living space and jack up the rent causing people to loose their homes. You know who else doesn't loose, the people that that get paid by our ever increasing tax's. I used to think that being the weather person was the only job you could keep and be wrong most the time (come on that ones funny). Apparently there all kinds of local government jobs you can hold and be wrong all the time.
The formula that Portland is using is the same that's being used in big cities nationwide: make sure that they always have a large population of homeless so that they can apply for funding from the state and fed to run the programs, at least half of which never ends up benefitting the homeless, it gets diverted into the pockets of the people who run the programs instead. And if by chance somebody blows the whistle and a federal investigator shows up to see what's happening with the missing funds, they are easily paid off to "look the other way" by the people who are being investigated, with some of the $$ that are being skimmed off of the top of the program's funding. More homeless people on the city's rolls= more funds that can be requested to address the "problem". Corruption runs so deep in city government that it's now standard operating procedure.
@@andyginterblues2961 my post was getting a little too long so I wasn't able to speak about all the issues I think about when it comes to housing, but yes I agree that the money collected by federal programs does not make its way down to the problem (homeless programs) as a whole and that funds are mismanaged and wind up in the pockets of people managing these programs. Just like the money that investment corporations give to the city officials to lobby for more control of the housing market in the form of tax breaks, land zoning, and even legislation. It's all about greed. Period! Basic no frills housing should not be looked at like a commodity. Yes costs go up for these types of dwellings over time, but not what we have seen, inflation has not grown by 200% since 2010, at least I don't think my milk costs 200% more then it did back then, didn't research this so I may be wrong. Anyways, There is no reason a person should be spending most or all of their income to live in a run down 50 year old building with mold, broken utilities, poor insulation, and poor safety. Some level of housing for the homeless that are involved in a program for addiction recovery or re-education for employment purposes is needed. The programs just needs to be designed in a way that promotes completing goals and leaving the program so that others that need it can move into it as others leave and move on to more stable lives. The homeless that do not participate, I don't feel bad for, excluding those experiencing mental health issues that is not created by drug use, these folks need addiction recovery programs.. I guess.
Weather person = Easiest job ever. And most act like it is nuclear physics.
I agree with that storeowner. Fines by themselves are meaningless. I doubt the police will even issue them. The only thing that counts is arrest and jail, without that it's just PR. The solution is pretty obvious but the city doesn't have the will to do it. Give the homeless four options, stay in a city or non-profit shelter, pay for your own housing, leave the city, or go to jail. The problem could be solved tomorrow with the right leadership.
What should l do with the $100 l don't have? Ignore the fine they issue me and won't pursue or buy a bag of blues or smack?
You could buy yourself an imaginary friend... I heard they are just negative 99.99$, so you can just barely afford one!
Get a job . Get help . Don’t care about the excuses 🖕🏿
This is fucking horrible. Fines only push people down who are destitute. Having to keep moving is very difficult. What are they supposed to do all day. This is a pipeline to incarceration. I don't claim to have all the answers. I just know that this is not it.
Housed people are NOT better than u housed people. I'd like to see how any of you would cope on the street. Don't tell me, "That would never be me because..." There but for the grace of God go I.
😂😂😂 I was there lunatic. Guess what I got clean got a job and doing great from myself and family. You clearly have no idea what your talking about
This situation has gone FAR BEYOND enabling. The vast majority of these homeless are there by choice (drug addicts )
If they can't afford clean clothing, a roof over their head, or even a car, how are they affording drugs? I used to smoke cigs, that crap ain't cheap, without a job, there's no way I could have kept smoking.
@@RayneSaltair They steal other peoples stuff...
Mr. KNOW IT ALL.
@@RayneSaltair You must not have watched the video, they are giving the homeless money, free cell phones, food, and most are one some form of public assistance so they have money to buy some dope, they deal or steal for the rest
@@RayneSaltair Aggressive panhandling and theft or robbery. Seriously??? btw...they also have cell phones.
Tent manufacturers are making money hand-over-fist. We need mental health facilities for so many of the homeless. You don't just get to set up camp wherever you feel like.
This won’t fix anything.
It will only make the problem worse.
It’s unlikely that any will be able to pay the fines, duh.
Placing them in jail is basically punishment for being poor, sick, unemployed, or mentally ill.
When they leave jail after the “30 days”, whatever supplies they accumulated to survive will be gone and they will have to start over.
Many services offered for people in all types of need don’t fit the situation or come with unrealistic restrictions. That’s why many services are refused.
Absolutely...no barrier housing is the solution!!!
If you care so much then why don't you open your doors to one of these people? Ohhhhhhh hmmmmm, bet ya won't. People like you make this problem worst, ALOT worst. Most these people are not mentally ill or sick, they are just violent/ problem causing junkies. And I think jail and community service is a GREAT way for them to both be housed/ monitored AND clean up the disgusting mess they made.
I wouldn't worry about it, they'll just tack this onto the long list of other laws that are selectively enforced.
"it's dangerous in jail" Yeah, very dangerous not to be able to get your fix.
4th warning... throw them into the Williamette!!!!
What happened to the plan to buy the old Greyhound bus terminal in Old Town and convert it to a homeless shelter? I mean it had at one time all the needed facilities including lockers for personal belongings and a full service restaurant... why has it not been converted so that homeless folks who are on wait lists for housing can get off the streets?
Very good question….that building is pretty big and could house alot of people. It’s a shame it’s not being utilized.
Demonrats create problems not solve them.
Leftists create problems not solve them.
Because that might solve the problems. Can't have that, how would all the social workers get paid then?
@@stevens1041and George carlin said there's no mo ey in a war on homelessness... boy was he wrong.
This is one of the biggest quandaries in the US. You want to show compassion for these people but it seems so many of them reject the help. They want no strings attached aid. If you provide indoor shelter but attach no drugs or alcohol, they refuse. I understand refusing shelter, when they won’t allow their pets but anything else they’re just biting the hand that feeds them
Maybe 20 years ago. Rent has tripled and wages haven't. Plus inflation
There isn't as much assistance as people think. The money is taken but barely distributed. Most don't even qualify for the extreme requirements, like if you collect cans you can't get help with your electric bill lol tell me how that makes sense when you may need to cash in cans for transit fare to go to the office to apply for assistance. Then you get to the office only to find it's closed unannounced due to crime.
The real problem is confusion over what is compassion. Here's a hint; it's not enabling a life of drug addicted street life.
@@boofert.washington2499
Congrats on getting off the streets! So as someone that’s been homeless, what do you recommend for those that are completely content staying homeless?
If they don’t see any problems with it, then it makes it hard to offer solutions/help
You can bite me you don't have a clue what it's like goebel email pair for three years and then come back and tell me what you think when you wear your shoes are
Look how smug that lady was. Above accountability.
Nothing will change folks ...until Wheeler is out.
Portland residents voted to prioritize homeless over tax paying residents, i don't see why they're surprised that the city is doing exactly that.
Im homeless but it doesn't effect me. I dont leave a tent up and you know what i hate that other people that do because theyre on drugs and steal. They have people looking out for them.
WHERE are the people going?
This is obviously going to fix homelessness. Next step: you are fined if you look like homeless and on a sidewalk.
Lets face it,no matter what the law states the majority of these people will not obey it.They will give out warnings and fines which will not do anything and then when they are arrested it will be suspended.They have been given free reign for too long.They are not scared of the law or any rules.
Institutionalize the insane. Give the substance abusers a choice. Rehab or jail. Put the rest to work. Enough handwringing.
So give them somewhere to go. It's not like it costs a lot to build a roof and BBQ pit
As far as nobody is going to jail,...the city doesn't know what it's talking about!
In the winter months, in places like Fargo, if it gets too cold or rainy,...they'll break a window because that will get them three meals a day and a roof over their heads.
You see, even the prisoner in your state prison has more rights than these people you're hearding like cattle!
You're not going to accomplish anything, until you do something about one problem.
Why won't they except the city's free services!?
That is, in fact, the problem!
The shelters and local social services either won't keep promises, are harsh to deal with, or just straight up dictatorial, when it comes to handling these people with a crowd mentality.
They need to feel excepted, and that takes handling their cases individually.
They need mental therapy and patience!
They need to be shown how to choose a direction!
Once they have those things, then you will get all kinds of cooperation out of them.
They want the same things you do,...they just won't ever believe they can have it!
At least, not as long as they are asked to move without being noticed or helped!
In closing I'll just say one more thing.
It is an awful long way from the services Portland offers, and any other city nearby.
Boise is full up, Twin Falls won't help the men and its even father from Portland to San Francisco or Salt Lake City!
If Homeless people start dropping because of malnutrition in Mount Shata, it will be traced back to what Portland does now!
At which point, Portland residence will be dealing with the ACLU and federal charges!
How many of these people are gainfully employed, but can't afford rent? How many of these people are mentally ill? The assumption about homelessness is that the homeless person is a "lazy bum." But there are categories of homelessness which the state should be held accountable for, such as the two just mentioned.
Why No Reports! On All The Murdered & Missing women
Holy shat dude is about to catch the dragon. The jail processing block is going to be so horrible. Especially when it'll be filled with junkies withdrawing. Everything will covered in diarrhea, get the hazmat suits ready
Don't worry. Schmidt Show won't let it come to that because he won't prosecute. That would be too helpful.
LOL, love how the first person they interview is a drugged out homeless man. Kinda proving the point, they need forced rehab.
Laws are passed often for PR purposes, even if the lawmakers don't actually agree with them. They are more focused on maintaining power and getting re-elected. But the enforcement policies are more indicative of what the politicians really want. And they want a homeless crisis because it means huge revenue streams that only go up as the crisis continues. So you end up like SF - $700 million homeless budget this year; and LA - $1.3 billion. So much money that is apparently doing very little to fix homelessness.
Nick did an interview with a woman in LA who talked about the hundreds of millions being advocated for the homeless and how it never gets to the homeless.
Does Portland have a sanctioned camp to meet the requirements of Martin v Boise? Does prohibiting camping only during certain hours suffice?
What about the disabled people who need sidewalk access after 8pm? Do we have a belief that all disabled people are home by 8pm? That's absurd.
@@reneestenbjornIt's Portland we are talking about, the homeless and the criminals there have more priority and rights than the law abiding people with jobs and housing.
If the housing was more affordable, there wouldn't be so many homeless people.
There are resources. Get a job and get your shit together. If you want to be a part of society, you have to contribute.
A sizable minority of homeless people have jobs.
clueless fool!!!!
We ALL have day to day challenges. One of them is navigating a sidewalk full of trash we pay to use, but can't. I have no empathy for trash.
Another unfunded mandate by politicians. Did they even CONSIDER the impact that this will have on public libraries and private day shelters? It sure doesn't sound like it. Banning daytime tents will also mean that the WORKING homeless could loss their jobs!
The only realistic answer is to offer both temporary and long-term AFFORDABLE housing options to those who need them. Access to mental health and addiction services needs to greatly increase over current levels. For those who refuse all help, _sanctioned_ outdoor camping areas are much less costly than courts and prisons.
Who funds the "affordable" housing?
Working taxpayers of course, the party
continues for druggies.
Who is going to provide affordable housing? Who?? And if they get it, why shouldn't everyone else get affordable housing?
@@karlabritfeld7104
Point one :
Voters passed a ballot measure to provide affordable housing for the homeless a few years ago. What happened with that money? Maybe your anger should be directed at city and state officials, rather than the homeless.
Point two:
It has been shown time and time again that using taxpayer money to shelter the homeless (and to provide mental health and addiction treatment when indicated) costs FAR LESS that ignoring the problem. So, helping the homeless is not only a more compassionate option, it is also a more _tax-friendly_ option.
Point three:
Housing costs have gone up far more than either general inflation or wages over the years. When someone working full-time cannot afford housing in today's world, either their wages should go up or they should receive affordable housing subsidies. As pointed out, that is also the most taxpayer-friendly option.
@@karlabritfeld7104 It's cheaper to provide it than not.
Striking to see that the flag that the City defends is not the stars ans stripes.
Way overdue.🎉
The city has a reputation that being homeless is easy in Portland, all I have heard for years. And can personally confirm…at one point being homeless in Portland over a decade ago. It’s time to tear down that reputation, and make it difficult for those who want no services and just live off taxpayer dollars.
Its a good thing there is no chance of that homeless dude with the hanky fase mask to go to jail because about 2 days in when he starts going through withdrawal and its not as easy to get drugs in jail as it is on the streets where the city leaders provide you with everything you need to stay hooked.
Yes, his drugs would be very expensive and there is no one he could steal from..
"city leaders provide you with everything you need to stay hooked" - He can move to New York City and get free crack pipes from the city's new vending machines.
We don't know if he uses drugs or not. Many homeless people have mental development problems from birth, and some are old with dementia. Some are living out of RVs with medical problems like cancer. Some are living out of their cars and working.
They funny thing is he says "It's not safe in jail"... I have been to jail, and I have also been homeless. Jail is a lot safer than the streets, that dude fried his brain 40 years ago...
Oh great now they will be wondering around looking for victims
Phoenix is slowly moving people from "The Zone" into hotels and shelters. 80% are agreeing to the move while others are service resistant because of the "no drug" requirements. Listening to Portland business owners is practically identical to business owners in Phoenix - "poop and needles on the street, and people will go somewhere else." Businesses have a court case because the removal of the homeless is behind schedule - but I would say the politicians really are making a good faith effort to work through this. It's a very tough problem.
It's an easy problem to solve.... Simply enforce the laws and in prison those that refuse to comply with those laws - problem solved!
How’s that decriminalizing hard drugs working out for you?
About as well as filling up the prisons. Jail doesn't help anyone. Just helps the prison system get richer. You know as they arrest a homeless person somewhere else in the city someone is getting away with a lot worse right?
They haven't followed the Portuguese model. It's a problem of half-measures. Just end Prohibition.
If they want to camp Mt. Hood National Forest isn't that far away.
Like 40 miles outside of town??
@@All-due-respect-I-disagree or into the ocean. who cares? just get off of the street!
@@SunnyAdams
You fool!
That’s how pirates are made!
Think of the poor animals😂
They can't panhandle up there
We've tried nothing and were all out of options.
The threat of jail time in a state with a shortage of public defenders is going to be a mess.
and they have about 1600 homeless in Portland, so it's not really very realistic.
I hope they do this in Washington State. We pay taxes to use our parks, and sidewalks.
Where do you get to use them? Not Olympia. A few blocks of Seattle maybe. Some of Vancouver
Why don't they want to fix the root of the problems which are drug addiction and mental illness among the homeless population? Force them into rehab.
Giving them cheap housing doesn't solve the problem
I wish they would have treatment jails, jails only for addicted, where they get an automatic 6 months and do treatment every single day!
Forcing rehab won't work, because the minute they get out they'll be back on the drugs. They have to WANT to do it on their own, or it won't do a thing. Just like AA meetings. The drunks have to WANT to be there, or they're just sitting there bored til they can go home and get a drink. Even if that home is a tent or a box under a bridge somewhere.
Good thing the pride flag is all around the mayor. City is decaying but hey, he's down with the pride cause.
Arrest them
Who? The homeless working poor? The mentally and physically damaged veterans? The medically bankrupt and physically disabled? Or the a$$holes that approved this.
The only person getting arrested is Trump (again) 😆😂
@charlesm2437 good... now DeSantis can win
For what? Being homeless? That's a crime?
@@karlabritfeld7104 I wanna put a hobo camp outside ur house. Make u step over the trash and needles
U can't have neighbourhoods ruined
Provide living arrangements on army bases,barracks. Have all necessities there
Have red cross, salvation army to help
They r people
Bob is correct, it will be completely ineffective.
Trail of tears 2023 push the homeless along. Ticket the poor that’s a good business plan? Help stop the criminalization of homeless. Even if u comply they still discriminate and ticket you. We have no money. Jail sounds like a great time 30 days free rent shelter and food.
Make drug possession illegal with a mandatory 30 day detox detainment.
Want to solve the homeless problem????? Put those "safe sleep sites" where the elected officials/ rich live. I bet the problem gets focus and resources really fast. Can I get my city counsel salary now?
Cant believe the stupidity. Yea see how that goes! Thnx for passing this so we can allocate the police to enforce this daily :)
What do you suggest, ignore it? It will get worse.
In Brazil the Police used to execute the Homeless! From what I hear, they have very few Homeless there!
Can't help people that don't want help. This is why all those shelters, rehab, etc. don't work.
ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
WHO IS GOING TO ENFORCE IT?
YOU VOTED IN THE POLITICIANS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MESS.
What merchants don’t understand is that what matters is the drug addicted homeless and NOT the tax paying citizens! 😢 The world has gone crazy…
$100 fine in which they have no money......30 days in jail which is an upgrade from their tent......
It should be a COMPLETE ban anywhere in the city!!
rose haven is an enabler
@3:24 So, they have basically just resorted to distributing body bags at this point?
How are they going to pay the fine? They are homeless!
This is what happens when you debunk or unfund the police!!
3:30 Making it easier for people to live on the streets is not going to solve the problems that cause them to end up in the streets. It may, in fact, be counterproductive because it takes the pressure off the decision makers, the people that need to find the real, long term solutions. It's like taking a pain killer but not taking the medicine that will actually cure the disease.
sounds good, but they will never enforce it. Nobody will ever go to jail. It's just a sham, a joke.
I would spend the hours of 8am to 8pm at Wheelers property
Stayed off drugs and went to school so I could pay for these people to do drugs with my taxes.
YEAH fine a homeless person lets see how that works out! SMH & 30 days in jail is 3 hot's and a cot for a homeless person...BUT don't we need those cells 4 ACTUAL criminals!?? JS