Force Ten From Navarone (1978) Retrospective

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 มี.ค. 2023
  • George discusses the 1978 Guy Hamilton World War 2 adventure film- Force Ten From Navarone based on the novel by Alistair MacLean. This movie has a great cast, a meandering, sort of perfunctory plot, and the characterization and intrigue in the story pale in comparison to its predecessor The Guns of Navarone (1961). However it's an enjoyable little romp shot on location in the former Yugoslavia. The countries 40 year reigning dictator Joseph Broz Tito and his relationship to the film industry is also touched upon with a brief aside to films like The Battle of Neretva (1969). The special effects in the movie- especially the cataclysmic dam explosion- are compared with its contemporary, Superman (1978) from the same year, and Ishiro Honda's work in the Godzilla series. Check it out!
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  • @andreraymond6860
    @andreraymond6860 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of my guilty pleasures. I've always loved this movie. Ford jumped at the opportunity to play with Shaw. It was the whole reason he took the part. (It helps that with the success of Star Wars he was being offered all kinds of movies to choose from and wasn't being too picky about what he was seen in). The score from Ron Goodwin is also fantastically catchy.

  • @Eccentricculinary
    @Eccentricculinary ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting details about Tito and the Yugoslavian film industry. Also, a great discussion of a mostly fun movie.

    • @FilmJournal
      @FilmJournal  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks very much man! Glad you enjoyed!

  • @westcountrypastygalloper8747
    @westcountrypastygalloper8747 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the 'soft spot' comment at the end really sums up my feelings about 'Force 10'. A great presentation of one of my old time favourites,which, although flawed is also charming. As some of the comments written here state, it is fun, has a cracking score and is best not compared to 'Guns of Navarone'. Lovely scenery as well. Thankyou George.

  • @waltervanlille2263
    @waltervanlille2263 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a kid I read quite a bit of Alistair Maclean novels, always thinking that I would love to see them made to movies.
    I didn't realise until much later in life that a lot of the movies I watched in that same period were actually based on his work.
    It makes you kinda wish that some modern film makers would pick up on his stories and kickstart a revival of sorts.

    • @FilmJournal
      @FilmJournal  ปีที่แล้ว

      We need more fun adventure movies!

  • @BobbyD262
    @BobbyD262 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love 60's war movies and Alistair MacLean , but I never really took to The Guns of Navarone. Maybe cause it always looks so dingy to me. This one however looks fun as hell, and what a cast.

    • @FilmJournal
      @FilmJournal  ปีที่แล้ว

      GON Is a very dimly lit film for the time! Very shadowy and dark for sure. Thanks Bob

  • @Vlad65WFPReviews
    @Vlad65WFPReviews ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice job, George. I reviewed the original Guns of Navarone on my own channel so it was interesting to hear your takes and insights. As i dug into the original I discovered what really shaped the greater gravitas of that film was producer-writer Carl Foreman's goal for a film that was both dynamic and anti-war, something he failed to achieve to his satisfaction.
    For Force 10, I don't think have a director like Guy Hamilton helped its depth or reputation. Now Hamilton's Goldfinger blew my socks off when I saw it in a theatre as a kid - and he did succeed in launching the Bond franchise into higher orbit. But as you point out, his style was big and obvious - as evidenced in the expensive but less-than-classic Battle of Britain.
    One more thing, I wondered about the racial undertone to Carl Weather's character's desire to be taken more seriously. Of course Carl was pretty big after the first two Rocky films but casting him in that role was an interesting choice.
    So nice job. I know all the work it takes for movies we care about - well done.

    • @FilmJournal
      @FilmJournal  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thin Truffaut summed it up best with his quote about the impossibility of making an anti-war film. Maybe DePalma's Casualties of War comes close

  • @diaspo
    @diaspo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great stuff George, always enjoy your deep-dives and come away learning something new. If you're inclined to make shorter videos, why not! I get the sense you make them as long as they deserve to be, so I doubt we'll ever feel short-changed.

    • @FilmJournal
      @FilmJournal  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really appreciate that man! Thank you

  • @white-dragon4424
    @white-dragon4424 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    14:52 In your list of recognisable actors you missed the SS officer who also played Chief Bast in A New Hope.

    • @FilmJournal
      @FilmJournal  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Great insight! I did not know that

  • @leejones8582
    @leejones8582 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just found your channel keep up the good work.

    • @FilmJournal
      @FilmJournal  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks man! Appreciate it

  • @VideoTasties
    @VideoTasties ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as usual 🙂

  • @paulcowboy1967
    @paulcowboy1967 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review George, i saw this in the cinema when it was released and was amazed when they chopped his head off in the ambush. Lol thats nothing now in movies....and yes the documentary in Tito is a brilliant watch to accompany this film and the others you mentioned. Obviously worth watching the uncut versions of Neretva and Fifth Offensive which were cut to bits by the film distributors. Carry on with the great reviews mate.

    • @FilmJournal
      @FilmJournal  ปีที่แล้ว

      You know your stuff dude! I'm just dipping my toe in- thanks for the kind comment!

  • @TellySavalas-or5hf
    @TellySavalas-or5hf หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:45 Robert Shaw's beret is small!

    • @FilmJournal
      @FilmJournal  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is that a euphemism for something?

  • @battlestarmarc
    @battlestarmarc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome ww2 film.
    Great soundtrack.

  • @RobertDerusha
    @RobertDerusha 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could they have re-written it to be Roy instead of Mallory? It would better explain his leg issue, and appearance change. And his chummyness with Miller, the man saved his life. Being that late in the war it wouldn't be unreasonable for his prison camp to have been liberated, or for him to have escaped. Not sure if I'm crazy, but that sounds like a better setup to me. Though they would have to fix ford's dynamic.

  • @elizabethpengson8244
    @elizabethpengson8244 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it's Edward FOX fr day of the jackal.. not Robert.. who is his brother..the producer

  • @BarneyDunn
    @BarneyDunn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like your long videos but I'd be interested in short videos also.

    • @FilmJournal
      @FilmJournal  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just to have more videos more frequently? or you prefer shorter content?

  • @malarkyfmpodcast-ug1iu
    @malarkyfmpodcast-ug1iu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another vote for shorter, more frequent videos.

  • @SEPK09
    @SEPK09 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That's Edward EDWARD FOX

    • @FilmJournal
      @FilmJournal  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Source?!

    • @remstaler3444
      @remstaler3444 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Edward Fox. The jackal

  • @paulwee1924dus
    @paulwee1924dus หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The tanks in the movie are wrong! T34/85 in German markings! I loved the movie wasn't it for the mistakes. Wolf Kahler made a cameo in this one.

    • @TellySavalas-or5hf
      @TellySavalas-or5hf หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The "German painted" T34/85 tanks are also used in "The night of the Fox" (1990) and one is made in a tiger for "Kelly's heroes"

    • @paulwee1924dus
      @paulwee1924dus หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TellySavalas-or5hf Yugoslav surplus from Tito's army reserves.

  • @georgejones8481
    @georgejones8481 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Edward Fox**

  • @white-dragon4424
    @white-dragon4424 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You know what I've never liked about this movie? Not only can't it possibly replace Peck and Niven, but the atmosphere's totally different. Whereas the original feels like a classic epic, this feels like a sterile late 70's movie. What with all the actors more well known for parts in Star Wars, Indiana Jones and Moore Bond movies, it also has Bond director Guy Hamilton directing the movie, so I'm always associating it with those other movies. Even Admiral Ozzel, Gold Leader and Chief Bast show up in the movie! It's most distracting. That, and it doesn't take itself seriously like the original, I get the impression that Hamilton thought he was making a Bond movie set in WWII! Oh, and they fall into the same old trap as most other old WWII movies, that is taking non-Axis military vehicles and simply painting crosses on them.

  • @jameslamear272
    @jameslamear272 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Actually Sergeant Weaver’s behavior was very true to his character, he was being asked to help but being ignored and not even being told what the mission was. Also as far as shooting him, that was the DUMBEST thing you said in your video. How would they do that unless they were quick draw experts to a man holding a machine gun to them, also they needed him for the mission and Weaver just wanted some respect

    • @FilmJournal
      @FilmJournal  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Beyond ridiculous to endanger their lives in that situation- they would have totally killed him after as he proved to be an insane liability. In reality that is what would happen- as a movie- yeah I'm glad they kept him around.

    • @jameslamear272
      @jameslamear272 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He was not an “insane” liability, he was demanding equal respect and to be told what the mission he was being ordered to go on was, Barnsby de-escalated the situation and they went on about their mission. Also as I said before he could not have just shot him while he was pointing a machine gun at him. I guess we will just agree to disagree

  • @fernandomaron87
    @fernandomaron87 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First!

  • @leethomas2155
    @leethomas2155 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The weakest out of the Alistair MacLean war film trilogy. (Guns, Eagles, Force 10). Still a good stand alone film. Not so much a sequel to Guns but a reimagined take on the material and characters. Best to watch this one without comparing it to Guns.

  • @jamesshielssoberlife.3701
    @jamesshielssoberlife.3701 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    er, ok so you shoot some air at some water and apparently that makes the droplets go smaller so it matches with the models, apparently! Thanks for that, useless piece of filmmaking knowledge, ilm bloke. but i like force ten.

    • @FilmJournal
      @FilmJournal  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m here for you with the useless knowledge my man. That’s my job

  • @martinjohansson4056
    @martinjohansson4056 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Russian T-34 tanks?

    • @FilmJournal
      @FilmJournal  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not sure- not a military expert by any means. Thanks for watching!

    • @BokicaK1
      @BokicaK1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Where you would find warking German panzer 30 years after the war

  • @mechanicaldavid4827
    @mechanicaldavid4827 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Completely pointless to demand a Peck-style grandstanding this time around, since film had changed and character took second place to spectacle.
    Funny thing that Guy Ritchie's latest film makes an even weaker version of that image-over- character war scenario - much too lazy a tribute to Tarantino and shows no lessons from Force 10...