Hugh’s poetic drilling down from the totality of the universe to our sun and earth as exceptional specks in the vast expanse of space gives you goose bumps. A very inspiring man.
@@rationalsceptic7634 I heard he has been asked to hand back his Physics Phd lol .... stating how he made a women do cartwheels at his command and how ppl started screaming at him and they all prayed and they all went quiet ..... lmfao
i can't help but love Dr Craig smile while he's waiting the introduction of hugh ross! i mean, if him,being one man only, can bring even a few thousand people to Christ, it all will be worth, the effort he does...congratulations!!
Can anyone provide me with a link to the survey(s) showing that 80% of research mathematicians believe in God and an afterlife? I've looked, and can't find this info.
Great question. Do you honestly think that they wouldn't have posted links to the studies they quoted if these studies existed? Let us assume that 80% of research mathematicians are religious. Does this make the god hypothesis true? This is a vox populi vox dei fallacy. 99% of people could think x and y could still be true.
I used go believe hell was just the end of a soul , the trash dump , non existence, but if your soul was saved by Jesus Christ that you lived on in heaven with him and he was your attorney at the Fathers judgement . I deeply respect Hugh Ross and the Idea of eternal damnation in hell or blessing and joy in heaven is making sense …. It makes one take their roll during their life on Earth very seriously and it leads me to hope that even just one person might have been led to the salvation of Jesus Christ through me ! I love and respect the deep knowledge and generosity to share it of all three people speaking here!
Thanks for this discussion. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. It is important to THINK and not blindly accept what comes across the internet. A plethora of information can be spun to support whatever someone wants to propose. But what seems to makes sense at first reading may not hold up under scrutiny. (e.g. "multiverses") And if we refuse to consider all angles we run the risk of deceiving ourselves.
To get around the fact that this universe has the overwhelming appearance of design and that a creator must have caused all time, space and energy to come into existence, then came the multiverse. So now some appeal to the multiverse and infinity of universes. If there are infinite number of universes then “anything is possible in one of these other universes. Thus anything anyone does in this universe can happen by chance in one of these other universes. Thus, there is no meaning to these great works and great minds. But they do not live, what they teach. As we look at the universe we see that the laws of physics, design of the universe and the formation of the universe had to be correct (is a very narrow way) for Mankind to live here on Earth at this time. But, this multiverse only moves the problem, where did the multiverse come from? Plus there is no evidence of the multiverse and there never will be. As living in the time and space dimensions of our universe, we can never observe anything outside the time and space dimensions we are in. So the multiverse is not science, just lots of wishful thinking (Si-Fi). I have found that those that talk about the multiverse, are those that hate the God of the Bible the most (there are exceptions). We have lots of evidence that this universe from its very beginning was designed so life would have a place to live (thus the multiverse distraction).
It's hilarious... Watch crappy videos posted on WLC's channel 10 years ago and it's the same pathetic script, literally word for word. Glad to see low bar bill's really taking the conversation forward 😂
Can someone help clarify Bill's perspective on original sin? He describes Adam and Eve as being in a 'State of Integrity,' where the presence of God and the Holy Spirit gave them the strength to live a perfect and holy life. So, how did they still fall into sin? It seems like either God's presence was enough to keep them from sinning, or it wasn't. Did God step away momentarily and return to find them fallen? Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
Dr Craig stated he was presenting the Roman Catholic view of Adam and Eve. My own interpretation is that Adam was not created as a self-righteous being. Righteousness is an attribute of God only, otherwise God would cease to be God, the Supreme ruler over His Creation, or man would have had to be made equal to God, if that were even possible. Ultimately, mankind must receive his righteousness - what is right and what is wrong - from God's commands. Thus, the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil established God's Righteousness as the boundary within which a free will human shall live in order to remain in His Presence. Adam and Eve were free to choose from any tree among the Garden, but the boundary line to remain in right relationship with God was obedience to abstain from only one tree; they chose not to obey, the opposite of God's Will for them. Adam and Eve began life in the Presence of God with all its benefits and perfection, and they were naked - without guilt or shame (the knowledge of good). When Eve was deceived into obeying the lusts of her flesh, and Adam blindly followed her desires, their eyes were opened and they saw they were naked - guilt and shame (the knowledge of evil) entered their consciousness for the first time. Their natural inclination was to hide from God, who is the Presence of only good, in whom there is no evil. Adam was conditionally righteous before God. Since Adam was not created having eternal life, but he would have lived eternally if he stayed in God's Presence, God cast Adam out of His Garden to put a limitation on evil. Having no righteousness of his own, outside the Garden, he no longer had a boundary for his flesh, and it could rule over him to fulfill its lusts. The Last Adam is a wholly different man. While the First Adam was made "a living soul" (flesh), Jesus was born “a life-giving spirit” (spirit). He received also the Divine nature that Adam lacked - Righteousness. Jesus Christ is the only righteous man born among human beings. Having inherited from the Virgin Eve's mortal body of flesh, with all its propensity to fulfill its lusts, this also answers how God, in human flesh, could be subjected to death. By never surrendering to the demands of His flesh, and always exercising God's Righteousness within Him, Jesus never sinned. Christ's humanity itself wasn't righteous, it was the same as ours; it was being the only begotten Son (the only biological offspring of the male parent, God), that gave Him the ability to rise above His humanity, and always please His Father. Jesus had the Righteousness of God, an attribute the First Adam lacked. It's not that man is inherently evil, it's that man is inherently unrighteous, by design. Certainly with an array of choices before him, a man may select to do righteous works commanded by God, but they will always be performed for his own selfish benefit (unrighteousness), completely unlike His unselfish, loving Creator. When a man hears the Gospel of Christ, learns of His love and Sacrifice for us, and believes in Him, he is reborn of the Spirit, and becomes a new creation, receiving the Righteousness of God within - the Spirit of Jesus Christ (2Cor 3:17; 13:5), that Adam never had. Adam lived because he was IN the Presence of God; Jesus Christ lives because He IS the Presence of God.
God gives everyone free will, if not we would be just robots. Adam and Eve had free will, this put of God's plan. Revelation 3:20 Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
I was a bit confused between Dr. Craig‘s statement on the personal return of Christ and physical eschatology. Does Dr. Craig believe that Jesus will return as a presence or an eschatological reality, but not in his physical body?
This discussion seems to prove that great minds for philosophical subtlety are not always inclined to admit the theological subtleties that divide Christianity from Roman Catholicism. These systems in reality have zero agreement when one admits what each of their respective distinctive doctrines imply. The attempt to bring these two different worlds together is necessarily going to destroy the integrity of one or the other. To be specific, conferred grace is a world away from the imputed grace of true Christianity. Such capable minds should acknowledge this, though they so badly want to join the two into one.
There is sin and sins. The Bible is clear there is a difference between one act of sin (sins) and sin nature. Romans 7:15-20 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[a] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do-this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
Both Job and Mary sinned. Every human sins. We are perfect after salvation only in the sense that God has forgiven all our sins. "Go and sin no more" is an indication that Jesus saved that individual, not that that individual would be capable of living sinlessly.
@@terminat1 You said “job sinned”. That’s a claim. What’s your evidence? “There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.” Job 1:1 KJV What does “perfect” mean? Blameless. Upright.
The Bible very definitely teaches a young universe. Dr. Craig unfortunately sides with the wisdom of man insofar as the age of the universe and Genesis 1-11 is concerned.
Max Tegmark denies a realm of consciousness while thinking about the realm of consciousness? LOL! Cognito ergo sum. When I look at the night sky and see the work of your fingers- the moon and the stars you set in place- what are mere mortals that you should think about them, human beings that you should care for them?
Why think that? People are quite adept at convincing themselves of all sorts of false beliefs. Moreover, we have many beliefs which we take to be true because they were taught to us by adults we trusted as children. Sometimes, these beliefs are false. - RF Admin
@@ReasonableFaithOrg Tricky question. I do believe he exists under the roof of every believers skull where he resides and should be protected by all means because once he ascends from these extremely narrow surroundings, he’s bound to dissolve in thin air :)
Biblical Hebrew has a smaller vocabulary than English. In biblical Hebrew, there is no word for universe. Instead, the Hebrew phrase that is translated “the heavens and the earth” is used to refer to the universe-the entirety of physical reality. The phrase is used thirteen times in the Old Testament, always referring to all matter, energy, space, and time in the universe. We now know that event was 13.787 ±0.020 billion years. This has been checked, proven and measured with many tools and they all agree. It is not just space that came to be 13.787 billion years ago, but time also. The universe is finite and expanding. Just as the Bible stated thousands of years ago. To deny the existence of a Creator is an error.
Dr. Hugh Ross has two books for his religion namely: The modern bible which is under with his second book imagined THE "BOOK" NATURE, lol. Now, WHY WOULDN'T THIS THEISTIC EVOLUTIONISTS write their own Bible with their supposed to be correct reading of BILLION of years of EVOLUTION? That way, we can easily determine the religion of DR. HUGH ROSS with the true Bible believers Historic Protestant. Why? MAKE YOUR OWN BIBLE OF BILLION OF YEARS OF EVOLUTION. Why continue using the obvious 24-hour day of Genesis. TELL YOUR CONVERTS THAT THIS IS YOUR BIBLE- BILLION YEARS OF EVOLUTION.
This comment presupposes a literalistic reading of Genesis that fails to reckon with the scholarship on the text's genre and its implications for interpretation. As Dr. Craig thoroughly demonstrates in his book In Quest of the Historical Adam, the creation texts are of the genre mytho-history and are suffused with figurative language. So, no, it's not "obvious" that Genesis is teaching that God's creative acts occurred in six literal 24-hour periods. In fact, very, very few Old Testament scholars believe the texts should be read literalistically. - RF Admin
@ReasonableFaithOrg Then make your own Bible, the correct reading according to your belief system of billion years of EVOLUTION. Be honest, like the Jehovah Witness, they made their own Bible according to their belief system. Stop using the Bible of day. The Religion of THEISTIC EVOLUTION and their TWO infallible book of Authorities: Their BIBLE of BILLION YEARS of EVOLUTION and the SECOND BOOK the book of nature as interpreted correctly by their spiritual leader DR. HUGH ROSS. There you go. ESTABLISH YOUR CHURCH all over the world. That way, Christians will be aware of who you're truly are.
Here are the ref the Book of Nature: Romans 1:20" For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God. Psalm 19 1-4: The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they reveal knowledge. They have no speech, they use no words; no sound is heard from them. Yet their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world. Biblical Hebrew has a smaller vocabulary than English. In biblical Hebrew, there is no word for universe. Instead, the Hebrew phrase that is translated “the heavens and the earth” is used to refer to the universe-the entirety of physical reality. The phrase is used thirteen times in the Old Testament, always referring to all matter, energy, space, and time in the universe. We now know that event was 13.787 ±0.020 billion years. This has been checked, proven and measured with many tools and they all agree. It is not just space that came to be 13.787 billion years ago, but time also. The universe is finite and expanding. Just as the Bible stated thousands of years ago. To deny the existence of a Creator is an error.
Fine Tuning seems to argue for generic Deism while seemingly making Christian Theism less likely. It's one thing to say that the structure and coherence of the universe seems inexplicable, but if you posit "design" then you have to contend with all of the elements of the universe that do not seem optimized for life and humanity more specifically. Some of those elements might be: the waste and destruction in the billions of years leading to us with mass extinction of most of the species over present on earth, most of which never shared the earth with modern humans, astroid impacts, the slow and messy progress of evolution, the problem of suffering, etc etc. Maybe the universe was "given" its structure somehow, but it seems nearly impossible that it was designed by a being that is all loving, all powerful, all knowing. At least not if that being has humanity in mind and is interested in relationship. Thoughts?
@@landonpontius2478 i don't think I would have the capability so show you anything that you have missed. You sound open wel read and have thought deeply through this subject. I could maby say to us as human it might look like a messy prosses with alot of waist and why in this specific time are we as continuous beings here to experience measure and wonder in this tiny spot of the universe and in the a time that is nothing in respect the age of the universe. It doesn't make sence unless you could maby look at it in the way that Time, Energy, Process, Expertise and other stuff is equal to VALUE. That no cost would be spared to bring us in to this life to enjoy and partake and take care of what was created. But why does evil and suffering bother us? I think it is because we see and understand value. Why is it that if a loved one dies we experience pain? So my Theist Christian God understands that we could mis understand or blame Him. That is why I believe He came in to creation to take on some of the worst types of suffering willingly and dies a shameful death willingly to show us our Value and to show he is not seperate from us and His creation but deeply invested. I do believe there is a reason a deep thoughtful reason but at the moment we mighty not have the capacity to understand or our victim mentality could blind us to it. I know hear are many holes but i am only a layman this is the best way for me to learn. English is my second language please excuse my spelling and grammar.
Biblical Hebrew has a smaller vocabulary than English. In biblical Hebrew, there is no word for universe. Instead, the Hebrew phrase that is translated “the heavens and the earth” is used to refer to the universe-the entirety of physical reality. The phrase is used thirteen times in the Old Testament, always referring to all matter, energy, space, and time in the universe. We now know that event was 13.787 ±0.020 billion years. This has been checked, proven and measured with many tools and they all agree. It is not just space that came to be 13.787 billion years ago, but time also. The universe is finite and expanding. Just as the Bible stated thousands of years ago. To deny the existence of a Creator is an error.
@@djsarg7451 again, I think deism is plausible but you might be exaggerating what is "proven" scientifically at this point. My understanding, and I could be wrong, is that the current claim is that all matter/energy and space was condensed into a singularity, but that we do not have any evidence of that singularity coming into existence. So it fair to say our universe started then but a stretch to say that is the definitive moment of creation of existence itself. Like I said, I'm not arguing that a cause isn't plausible, just that HOW the universe has developed and how it exists now in relation to life does not seem to support the existence of an all good, all powerful being.
From Adam to the Second coming there is 120 Jubilee.. We have just 1 more Generation left and that is only 40 more years left before the End of this Last Jubilee
I get the reflex to proclaim, "God did it",... it's simple and 'seemingly' rational, but as with many things, what seems plain, intuitive and straightforward is anything but. Here, many of the brilliant scientists Graig quotes in his argument explain (in their own words) why his 'logic' doesn't hold up: th-cam.com/video/pGKe6YzHiME/w-d-xo.htmlsi=VjHxipNSzjzoBksX
Dumb and dumber. Craig's Kalam argument tries to get to a deist creator but fails. He has tried to argue his Dunning-Kruger view of universal origins with actual astrophysicists and cosmologists! And Ross is worse. If you want to believe, then believe based on your faith. But don't sully actual science with your belief.
Problem is, Bill, you're a layman. You don't understand physics, and you're paid to misrepresent a topic with inane xtian friendly soundbites. What's another name for it? Oh yeah... Lying for Jesus.
Big bang theory is only man's word vs God's Word 7-day creation, both explaining the vastness of space multi-universe. If you believe man's word, then you are tricked for interpreting distances of stars and universe as measurement of time. For such distances using light years as measurements mind blowing impossible never-ending numbers. In contrast the Bible states: God created Heavens (meaning stary host, everything surrounding Earth) in accordance with God's 7-day cycle of Creation. Here my point: let say we have a 100-meter football field, and every 10 meter we light up a candle stick indicating distance and time determine its age. We're using remote toy car symbolising speed of light, calculating our distance and time from every candle stick point on the football field. Obviously the further away you go to that candle, the greater distance and time is calculated. If you see from God's eyes: He created that football field one day. Just like the heavens above from one star to another, one universe to another, one galaxy to another all created in within the 7 days… these distances reveal our limitation and proves the Bible description God’s Wonderous Power and Glory in Creation.
This comment presupposes a literalistic interpretation of the creation texts in Genesis, which, as Dr. Craig has show in his book In Quest of the Historical Adam, fails to account for the genre analysis of those texts. Since the genre is mytho-history, such a literalistic interpretation actually reads into the text rather than reads from it. - RF Admin
The bible tell you that the 144,000 never sin in their entire life for God says No Sins was ever found thorough out their entire life.. The Lamb and the 144,000 …4These are the ones who have not been defiled with women, for they are virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever He goes. They have been redeemed from among men as firstfruits to God and to the Lamb. 5And no lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless
The 144,000 is a symbolic number that represents those who are saved. All of their sins are paid for at the moment of salvation. Thus, God sees them as being blameless. It doesn't mean that they literally never sin.
@@terminat1 The 144,000 are all those who Finished the Race into Teleios Text Sermons : Greek Word Studies : Perfect (5046) teleios Open as PDF Perfect (5046) (teleios from telos = an end, a purpose, an aim, a goal) means complete, mature, fully developed, full grown, brought to its end, finished, wanting nothing necessary to completeness, in good working order. Teleios signifies consummate soundness, includes the idea of being whole. Interestingly the Gnostics used teleios of the one fully initiated into their mysteries and that may have been why Paul used teleios in this epistle. Teleios is used 19 times in the NT (Matthew 2x ; Romans 1 Corinthians 3x; Ephesians ;Philippians ; Colossians 2x; Hebrews 2x; James 4x ;1 John) and is translated in the NASB as: complete, 2; mature, 4; more perfect, 1; perfect, 12. The KJV has one use translated "of full age". Earlier Paul after declaring the glorious truth to the Colossians that Christ was now in them and that He Alone was their Hope (absolute assurance of future good) of glory went on to emphasis that because of this great truth... "we proclaim Him, admonishing every man and teaching every man with all wisdom, that we may present every man complete (teleios) in Christ. And for this purpose also I labor (to the point of literal exhaustion!), striving (agonizomai - same verb describing Epaphras' "laboring earnestly" in prayer for the same goal = that the Colossian saints would be complete in Christ) according to His power (which undoubtedly is how Epaphras also was enabled to prayer with such passion and power - and it is the only way we can pray this way - His power working in us and through us), which mightily works within me." (see note Colossians 1:28) As discussed more fully below, teleios does not connote moral or spiritual perfection, or sinlessness, but rather refers to that which is fully developed. Teleios has at least three shades of meaning: (1) Teleios speaks of totality, as opposed to partial or limited and when used of things means in full measure, undivided, complete or entire (as in Romans 12:2 [note] referring to "the will of God" which is "good and acceptable and perfect"). When referring to persons the idea is that of complete or perfect ("Therefore you are to be perfect (teleios), as your heavenly Father is perfect (teleios)." Matthew 5:48 [note]- see more discussion below) Teleios describes a victim which is fit for a sacrifice to God as without blemish. (2) Teleios also speaks of that which is fully development as opposed to that which is immature. And so it describes persons who are full grown or mature (especially referring to spiritual maturity). In Greek teleios was applied to physical growth and so a man who has reached his full-grown stature is teleios in contradistinction to a half-grown lad. A student who has reached a mature knowledge of his subject is teleios as opposed to a learner who is just beginning, and who as yet has no grasp of things. For example Pythagoras divided his students into the learners, and the mature. (teleios). Philo divided his students into three classes-those just beginning (archomenoi), those making progress (prokoptontes), and those beginning to reach maturity (teleios). Teleios does not imply complete knowledge but a certain spiritual maturity in the faith. That is Epaphras' desire for the saints at Colossae. (3) Teleios can refer to that which is in a state of full preparation or readiness In all the above variations of meaning the underlying idea is that a purpose has been achieved or that a thing or person has reached its intended goal or end. The basic meaning of teleios in the New Testament is always that the thing or person so described fully carries out the purpose for which designed. And so when Greek speaks of "perfect" (teleios) it is in fact such if it perfectly carries out the purpose for which it was designed. Richards explains teleios (and related words in this group such as teleioo, teleiotes) writing that the emphasis is on... "wholeness and completeness. In the biological sense they mean "mature," or "full grown": the person, animal, or plant achieved the potential inherent in its nature. The perfect is the thing or person that is complete, in which nothing that belongs to its essence has been left out. It is perfect because every potential it possesses has been realized." (Ibid) Wayne Detzler writes that the root meaning of teleios is... "fulfilled purpose," which is seen in the English word "teleology" (the belief that any process is shaped by purpose). The "teleological" argument of the existence of God says that the purposeful arrangement of the universe demonstrates the existence of God. Later on this word assumed another meaning, that of perfection. When something fulfills its purpose, it is supposedly perfect. Aristotle emphasized the aspect of ethical perfection, doing that which is right. For him self-actualization was most important. A person should realize that which is right for himself, and this is perfection. In other words, perfection is not conforming to an external standard, be it God's or man's. In this sense Aristotle stood out in bold contrast with biblical ethics, which stress conformity to God's standard. Later, under the influence of Plato, perfection meant conformity to accepted virtues in Greek culture. When one exemplified these virtues in every way, he was perfect. In its various forms teleios occurs about 100 times in the Greek New Testament. In each case it means "perfection," "completion," or "wholeness." For instance, in some cases it speaks of ethical perfection, behavior which is complete or whole. An example of this ethical perfection is found in James, when he asserted that endurance in the Christian life helps make one perfect (James 1:4). Let it be added that this does not teach sinless perfection. The Bible repeatedly emphasizes that no one is sinless, but every Christian should sin less every day. James illustrated this teaching by reference to obeying God's Law (James 1:25). Specifically, he saw the tongue as the main battleground in achieving spiritual perfection or wholeness (James 3:2, 6-12). James knew that true perfection is found in God alone (James 1:17). In John's epistles there is likewise an emphasis on perfection. Here the sole source of perfection is God. Only God can give perfect love, which takes away fear (1 John 4:18). No perfection exists apart from Him.
@@terminat1 John Wesley Sermon 40 on Christians Perfection The Sermons of John Wesley - Sermon 40 Christian Perfection "Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect." Phil. 3:12. 1. There is scarce any expression in Holy Writ which has given more offence than this. The word perfect is what many cannot bear. The very sound of it is an abomination to them. And whosoever preaches perfection (as the phrase is,) that is, asserts that it is attainable in this life, runs great hazard of being accounted by them worse than a heathen man or a publican. 2. And hence some have advised, wholly to lay aside the use of those expressions, "because they have given so great offence." But are they not found in the oracles of God If so, by what authority can any Messenger of God lay them aside, even though all men should be offended We have not so learned Christ; neither may we thus give place to the devil. Whatsoever God hath Spoken that will we speak, whether men will hear or whether they will forbear; knowing that then alone can any Minister of Christ be "pure from the blood of all men," when he hath "not shunned to declare unto them all the counsel of God." [Acts 20:26, 27] 3. We may not, therefore, lay these expressions aside, seeing they are the words of God, and not of man. But we may and ought to explain the meaning of them, that those who are sincere of heart may not err to the right hand or to the left, from the mark of the prize of their high calling. And this is the more needful to be done because in the verse already repeated the Apostle speaks of himself as not perfect: "Not," saith he, "as though I were already perfect." And yet immediately after, in the fifteenth verse, he speaks of himself, yea and many others, as perfect. "Let us," saith he, "as many as be perfect, be thus minded." [Phil. 3:15] 4. In order, therefore, to remove the difficulty arising from this seeming contradiction, as well as to give light to them who are pressing forward to the mark, and that those who are lame be not turned out of the way, I shall endeavor to show, First, in what sense Christians are not; and, Secondly, in what sense they are, perfect. I. 1. In the first place I shall endeavor to show in what sense Christians are not perfect. And both from experience and Scripture it appears, First, that they are not perfect in knowledge: they are not so perfect in this life as to be free from ignorance. They know, it may be, in common with other men, many things relating to the present world; and they know, with regard to the world to come, the general truths which God hath revealed. They know, likewise, (what the natural man receiveth not, for these things are spiritually discerned,) "what manner of love" it is wherewith "the Father" hath loved them, "that they should be called the sons of God." [1 John 3:1] They know the mighty working of his Spirit in their hearts; [Eph. 3:16] and the wisdom of his providence, directing all their paths, [Prov. 3:6] and causing all things to work together for their good. [Rom. 8:28] Yea, they know in every circumstance of life what the Lord requireth of them, and how to keep a conscience void of offence both toward God and toward man. [Acts 24:16] 2. But innumerable are the things which they know not. Touching the Almighty himself, they cannot search him out to perfection. "Lo, these are but a part of his ways; but the thunder of his power who can understand" [Job 26:14] They cannot understand, I will not say, how "there are Three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one;" [1 John 5:7] or how the eternal Son of God "took upon himself the form of a servant;" [Phil. 2:7] -- but not any one attribute, not any one circumstance of the divine nature. [2 Pet. 1:4] Neither is it for them to know the times and seasons [Acts 1:7] when God will work his great works upon the earth; no, not even those which he hath in part revealed by his servants and Prophets since the world began. [see Amos 3:7] Much less do they know when God, having "accomplished the number of his elect, will hasten his kingdom;" when "the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat." [2 Pet. 3:10] 3. They know not the reasons even of many of his present dispensations with the sons of men; but are constrained to rest here, -- Though "clouds and darkness are round about him, righteousness and judgment are the habitation of his seat." [Ps. 97:2] Yea, often with regard to his dealings with themselves, doth their Lord say unto them, "What I do, thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter." [John 13:7] And how little do they know of what is ever before them, of even the visible works of his hands! -- How "he spreadeth the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing" [Job 26:7] how he unites all the parts of this vast machine by a secret chain which cannot be broken So great is the ignorance, so very little the knowledge, of even the best of men! 4. No one, then, is so perfect in this life, as to be free from ignorance. Nor, Secondly, from mistake; which indeed is almost an unavoidable consequence of it; seeing those who "know but in part" [1 Cor. 13:12] are ever liable to err touching the things which they know not. It is true, the children of God do not mistake as to the things essential to salvation: They do not "put darkness for light, or light for darkness;" [Isa. 5:20] neither "seek death in the error of their life." [Wisdom 1:12] For they are "taught of God," and the way which he teaches them, the way of holiness, is so plain, that "the wayfaring man, though a fool, need not err therein." [Isa. 35:8] But in things unessential to salvation they do err, and that frequently. The best and wisest of men are frequently mistaken even with regard to facts; believing those things not to have been which really were, or those to have been done which were not. Or, suppose they are not mistaken as to the fact itself, they may be with regard to its circumstances; believing them, or many of them, to have been quite different from what in truth, they were. And hence cannot but arise many farther mistakes. Hence they may believe either past or present actions which were or are evil, to be good; and such as were or are good, to be evil. Hence also they may judge not according to truth with regard to the characters of men; and that, not only by supposing good men to be better, or wicked men to be worse, than they are, but by believing them to have been or to be good men who were or are very wicked; or perhaps those to have been or to be wicked men, who were or are holy and unreprovable.
@@terminat1 Saint John of the Cross and Sanctified by Dark Night of your Soul into Christian Perfection The Dark Night of the Soul (La noche oscura del alma) is a phase of passive purification of the spirit in the mystical development, as described by the 16th-century Spanish mystic and poet St. John of the Cross in his treatise Dark Night (Noche Oscura), a commentary on his poem with the same name. It follows after the second phase, the illumination in which God's presence is felt, but this presence is not yet stable. The author himself did not give any title to his poem, which together with this commentary and the Ascent of Mount Carmel (Subida del Monte Carmelo) forms a treatise on the active and passive purification of the senses and the spirit, leading to mystical union.[1] In modern times, the phrase "dark night of the soul" is used to describe a crisis of faith or a difficult, painful period in one's life. The poem Dating and subject The poem of St. John of the Cross, in eight stanzas of five lines each, narrates the journey of the soul to the mystical union with God. The time or place of composition are not certain. It is likely that the poem was written between 1577 and 1579. It has been proposed that the poem was composed while John was imprisoned in Toledo, although the few explicit statements in this regard are unconvincing and second-hand.[2] The journey is called "dark night" in part because darkness represents the fact that the destination "God" is unknowable, as in the 14th-century mystical classic The Cloud of Unknowing; both pieces are derived from the works of Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite in the 6th century.[citation needed] Further, the path per se is unknowable. The "dark night" does not refer to the difficulties of life in general,[3] although the phrase has been taken to refer to such trials. Text La noche oscura del alma[4] En una noche oscura Con ansias en amores inflamada, ¡Oh dichosa ventura! Sali sin ser notada, Estando ya mi casa sosegada. A oscuras, y segura Por la secreta escala disfrazada, ¡Oh dichosa ventura! A oscuras y encelada Estando ya mi casa sosegada. En la noche dichosa En secreto, que nadie me veia, Ni yo miraba cosa, Sin otra luz, y guia, Sino la que en el corazón ardia. Aquesta me guiaba Más cierto que la luz del mediodia, A donde me esperaba, Quien yo bien me sabia, En parte, donde nadie parecia. ¡Oh noche que guiaste, Oh noche amable más que el alborada; Oh noche que juntaste Amado con amada, Amada en el Amado transformada! En mi pecho florido, Que entero para él sólo se guardaba, Allí quedó dormido, Y yo le regalaba, Y el ventalle de cedros aire daba. El aire de la almena, Cuando yo sus cabellos esparcia, Con su mano serena En mi cuello heria, Y todos mis sentidos suspendia. Quedéme, y olvidéme, El rostro recliné sobre el Amado, Cesó todo, y dejéme, Dejando mi cuidado Entre las azucenas olvidado. Dark Night of the Soul[5] On a dark night, Kindled in love with yearnings -oh, happy chance!- I went forth without being observed, My house being now at rest. In darkness and secure, By the secret ladder, disguised -oh, happy chance!- In darkness and in concealment, My house being now at rest. In the happy night, In secret, when none saw me, Nor I beheld aught, Without light or guide, save that which burned in my heart. This light guided me More surely than the light of noonday To the place where he (well I knew who!) was awaiting me- A place where none appeared. Oh, night that guided me, Oh, night more lovely than the dawn, Oh, night that joined Beloved with lover, Lover transformed in the Beloved! Upon my flowery breast, Kept wholly for himself alone, There he stayed sleeping, and I caressed him, And the fanning of the cedars made a breeze. The breeze blew from the turret As I parted his locks; With his gentle hand he wounded my neck And caused all my senses to be suspended. I remained, lost in oblivion; My face I reclined on the Beloved. All ceased and I abandoned myself, Leaving my cares forgotten among the lilies.
X-< The universe was created in 1976. It is too hot to make a universe at the time of the big bang. It can be created at anytime. God is slow and easy. A human can do a lot with their lifespan. I got the hunk. God got the chunk. Everyone else can have the rest. That is song spirit of ''76 by The Alarm.
(^_^;) This is an artistic proof of a created universe. When you paint a shadow it's the opposite color of the object that made the shadow. Nobody knew what the opposite color of white was so the artists avoided painting white on white. The opposite color of white is baby blue and baby pink. The first artist to figure it out was Norman Rockwell. I was the second artist to figure it out. I saw it in the corner of a white room. The lighting was perfect to see it.
@danieltemelkovski9828 a spy uses capitalism like a theme park. I was an autobody man for sexy physics. I worked in a convenience store next to a stadium. That the best way to know humanity. We are going to make capitalism a theme park with robots. A classification is better than a university degree because you make an evolved mind rather than memorizing facts like a tape recorder.
@danieltemelkovski9828 an education made everyone think an intelligent universe is mental illness. Everything will be disclosed with artificial intelligence so we don't go crazy laboring.
( ・◇・)？artifacts of a swastika is flobby with stazzle and a jumble that tumbled. That is a skeleton, human heart, signature, internal combustion engine, animation of the big bang and a wave. That unify the universe you can't do with math. A swastika is the simplest rendering possible for those artifacts and needs to be saved from the nazis. ( ´～｀)
Biblical Hebrew has a smaller vocabulary than English. In biblical Hebrew, there is no word for universe. Instead, the Hebrew phrase that is translated “the heavens and the earth” is used to refer to the universe-the entirety of physical reality. The phrase is used thirteen times in the Old Testament, always referring to all matter, energy, space, and time in the universe. We now know that event was 13.787 ±0.020 billion years. This has been checked, proven and measured with many tools and they all agree. It is not just space that came to be 13.787 billion years ago, but time also. The universe is finite and expanding. Just as the Bible stated thousands of years ago. To deny the existence of a Creator is an error.
@djsarg7451 their is a lot of people that think an intelligent universe is mental illness. That probably is going to change. We are doing disclosure and intelligent design is therapeutic.
σ(^_^;)? We need to popularize the idea of getting God married. Getting God married is a good use of someone's time. You are supposed to make the environment intelligent so no God is needed. We fixed the video and audio for the best experience possible. Cameras are supernatural and all of them captured 3D that not a gimmick. The audio loud don't make violence so has depth. Nobody has to buy anything for it to work.
Hi, Please read your Bible he is married. The bride of Christ, or the lamb's wife, is a metaphor used in number of related verses in the Bible. He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: thus my joy therefore is fulfilled. - John 3:29, And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. [...] And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the lamb's wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God - Revelation 21:2, 9-10, King James Version And the Spirit and the bride say, "Come." And let him that heareth say, "Come." And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. - Revelation 22:17, New International Version The question will you be there? Or have you rejected his love and forgiveness?
( ´д｀) Natural selection is the character flaw in evil that is integrity is more important than life otherwise evolution is tragic circumstances with nothing intelligent happening. Almost everyone survive until they reproduce. Nothing is getting selected except for the character flaw in evil. I found a replacement for the character flaw in evil that I liked but God makes me forget things that will cause me trouble.
(^_^;))) Consciousness is the particle and wave double slit experiment. The cones and rods of your eyes preserve the particle and wave duality so your vision don't look like a flat screen television. It's supposed to be a violation of physics but it is the only exception in the whole universe.
Not that the earth is flat, or that crystals cure cancer. No it is thinking that since we can't see any evidence to suggest that a god exists, it probably does not exist.
The dumbest thing is that you can’t even cogently define God and if you were to be subjected to any religious topic, your definition of god would gradually change to be able to account for any question raised.
Hugh’s poetic drilling down from the totality of the universe to our sun and earth as exceptional specks in the vast expanse of space gives you goose bumps. A very inspiring man.
@@ptupy Hugh is a Liar and Charleton
@@rationalsceptic7634 I heard he has been asked to hand back his Physics Phd lol .... stating how he made a women do cartwheels at his command and how ppl started screaming at him and they all prayed and they all went quiet ..... lmfao
I started getting chocked up around the 1 hour mark, as I contemplated God's attention to detail for our existence.
Thank you. This was a wonderful dialogue with three great minds.
Thank you Lord for these two warriors 4 Christ for forming my faith.
i can't help but love Dr Craig smile while he's waiting the introduction of hugh ross!
i mean, if him,being one man only, can bring even a few thousand people to Christ, it all will be worth, the effort he does...congratulations!!
This was great! Thank you!
What a great discussion. Thank you.
Can anyone provide me with a link to the survey(s) showing that 80% of research mathematicians believe in God and an afterlife? I've looked, and can't find this info.
Great question. Do you honestly think that they wouldn't have posted links to the studies they quoted if these studies existed?
Let us assume that 80% of research mathematicians are religious. Does this make the god hypothesis true? This is a vox populi vox dei fallacy. 99% of people could think x and y could still be true.
@@AdrianHinslop it would be that sort of fallacy if he claimed it was true because of the %. I don't recall him making that claim.
@@AdrianHinslop God.
I provide documentation in More Than a Theory.
@@hughross131 I'll check that out. Thank you for replying.
What a fascinating discussion by two people who have different views and yet they agree on so much
I used go believe hell was just the end of a soul , the trash dump , non existence, but if your soul was saved by Jesus Christ that you lived on in heaven with him and he was your attorney at the Fathers judgement . I deeply respect Hugh Ross and the Idea of eternal damnation in hell or blessing and joy in heaven is making sense …. It makes one take their roll during their life on Earth very seriously and it leads me to hope that even just one person might have been led to the salvation of Jesus Christ through me ! I love and respect the deep knowledge and generosity to share it of all three people speaking here!
Thanks for this discussion. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. It is important to THINK and not blindly accept what comes across the internet. A plethora of information can be spun to support whatever someone wants to propose. But what seems to makes sense at first reading may not hold up under scrutiny. (e.g. "multiverses") And if we refuse to consider all angles we run the risk of deceiving ourselves.
To get around the fact that this universe has the overwhelming appearance of design and that a creator must have caused all time, space and energy to come into existence, then came the multiverse. So now some appeal to the multiverse and infinity of universes. If there are infinite number of universes then “anything is possible in one of these other universes. Thus anything anyone does in this universe can happen by chance in one of these other universes. Thus, there is no meaning to these great works and great minds. But they do not live, what they teach. As we look at the universe we see that the laws of physics, design of the universe and the formation of the universe had to be correct (is a very narrow way) for Mankind to live here on Earth at this time.
But, this multiverse only moves the problem, where did the multiverse come from? Plus there is no evidence of the multiverse and there never will be. As living in the time and space dimensions of our universe, we can never observe anything outside the time and space dimensions we are in. So the multiverse is not science, just lots of wishful thinking (Si-Fi). I have found that those that talk about the multiverse, are those that hate the God of the Bible the most (there are exceptions). We have lots of evidence that this universe from its very beginning was designed so life would have a place to live (thus the multiverse distraction).
Thank you, God bless you
😂 All the big modern cosmologist agrees that we dont know what happened before big bang.
It's hilarious... Watch crappy videos posted on WLC's channel 10 years ago and it's the same pathetic script, literally word for word. Glad to see low bar bill's really taking the conversation forward 😂
Can someone help clarify Bill's perspective on original sin? He describes Adam and Eve as being in a 'State of Integrity,' where the presence of God and the Holy Spirit gave them the strength to live a perfect and holy life. So, how did they still fall into sin? It seems like either God's presence was enough to keep them from sinning, or it wasn't.
Did God step away momentarily and return to find them fallen?
Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
Dr Craig stated he was presenting the Roman Catholic view of Adam and Eve. My own interpretation is that Adam was not created as a self-righteous being. Righteousness is an attribute of God only, otherwise God would cease to be God, the Supreme ruler over His Creation, or man would have had to be made equal to God, if that were even possible. Ultimately, mankind must receive his righteousness - what is right and what is wrong - from God's commands.
Thus, the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil established God's Righteousness as the boundary within which a free will human shall live in order to remain in His Presence. Adam and Eve were free to choose from any tree among the Garden, but the boundary line to remain in right relationship with God was obedience to abstain from only one tree; they chose not to obey, the opposite of God's Will for them.
Adam and Eve began life in the Presence of God with all its benefits and perfection, and they were naked - without guilt or shame (the knowledge of good). When Eve was deceived into obeying the lusts of her flesh, and Adam blindly followed her desires, their eyes were opened and they saw they were naked - guilt and shame (the knowledge of evil) entered their consciousness for the first time. Their natural inclination was to hide from God, who is the Presence of only good, in whom there is no evil.
Adam was conditionally righteous before God. Since Adam was not created having eternal life, but he would have lived eternally if he stayed in God's Presence, God cast Adam out of His Garden to put a limitation on evil. Having no righteousness of his own, outside the Garden, he no longer had a boundary for his flesh, and it could rule over him to fulfill its lusts.
The Last Adam is a wholly different man. While the First Adam was made "a living soul" (flesh), Jesus was born “a life-giving spirit” (spirit). He received also the Divine nature that Adam lacked - Righteousness. Jesus Christ is the only righteous man born among human beings. Having inherited from the Virgin Eve's mortal body of flesh, with all its propensity to fulfill its lusts, this also answers how God, in human flesh, could be subjected to death.
By never surrendering to the demands of His flesh, and always exercising God's Righteousness within Him, Jesus never sinned. Christ's humanity itself wasn't righteous, it was the same as ours; it was being the only begotten Son (the only biological offspring of the male parent, God), that gave Him the ability to rise above His humanity, and always please His Father. Jesus had the Righteousness of God, an attribute the First Adam lacked. It's not that man is inherently evil, it's that man is inherently unrighteous, by design.
Certainly with an array of choices before him, a man may select to do righteous works commanded by God, but they will always be performed for his own selfish benefit (unrighteousness), completely unlike His unselfish, loving Creator.
When a man hears the Gospel of Christ, learns of His love and Sacrifice for us, and believes in Him, he is reborn of the Spirit, and becomes a new creation, receiving the Righteousness of God within - the Spirit of Jesus Christ (2Cor 3:17; 13:5), that Adam never had.
Adam lived because he was IN the Presence of God; Jesus Christ lives because He IS the Presence of God.
God gives everyone free will, if not we would be just robots. Adam and Eve had free will, this put of God's plan.
Revelation 3:20 Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.
Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
@@djsarg7451 Nobody will freely choose for God. Man is dead in sins and trespasses before salvation.
Great video! Keep up the great Kingdom work!
I was a bit confused between Dr. Craig‘s statement on the personal return of Christ and physical eschatology. Does Dr. Craig believe that Jesus will return as a presence or an eschatological reality, but not in his physical body?
This discussion seems to prove that great minds for philosophical subtlety are not always inclined to admit the theological subtleties that divide Christianity from Roman Catholicism. These systems in reality have zero agreement when one admits what each of their respective distinctive doctrines imply. The attempt to bring these two different worlds together is necessarily going to destroy the integrity of one or the other. To be specific, conferred grace is a world away from the imputed grace of true Christianity. Such capable minds should acknowledge this, though they so badly want to join the two into one.
Sounded to me like at least Job and Mary didn’t sin. Also “go and sin no more”, indicates that humans may be capable of not sinning.
There is sin and sins. The Bible is clear there is a difference between one act of sin (sins) and sin nature.
Romans 7:15-20
15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[a] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do-this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
Both Job and Mary sinned. Every human sins. We are perfect after salvation only in the sense that God has forgiven all our sins. "Go and sin no more" is an indication that Jesus saved that individual, not that that individual would be capable of living sinlessly.
@@terminat1 start with Job. What was his sin?
@@deanodebo Just because Job isn't noted in the Bible as committing sin doesn't mean he lived sinlessly.
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You said “job sinned”. That’s a claim. What’s your evidence?
“There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.”
Job 1:1 KJV
What does “perfect” mean? Blameless. Upright.
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Wonder if anyone else sees it. Shadow bans make this platform great
I never expecting a Uranus joke from Hugh.
The Bible very definitely teaches a young universe. Dr. Craig unfortunately sides with the wisdom of man insofar as the age of the universe and Genesis 1-11 is concerned.
Max Tegmark denies a realm of consciousness while thinking about the realm of consciousness? LOL! Cognito ergo sum.
When I look at the night sky and see the work of your fingers-
the moon and the stars you set in place-
what are mere mortals that you should think about them,
human beings that you should care for them?
If god existed there would be no need to prove his existence
Why think that? People are quite adept at convincing themselves of all sorts of false beliefs. Moreover, we have many beliefs which we take to be true because they were taught to us by adults we trusted as children. Sometimes, these beliefs are false. - RF Admin
@@ReasonableFaithOrg Indeed, like the false belief that god(s) exists :)
@@walterdaems57 Do you have any good reasons to believe that God does not exist? - RF Admin
@@ReasonableFaithOrg Tricky question. I do believe he exists under the roof of every believers skull where he resides and should be protected by all means because once he ascends from these extremely narrow surroundings, he’s bound to dissolve in thin air :)
@@walterdaems57 Yes, that's what you believe. But what reason do you have for thinking that belief is true? - RF Admin
Warning ⚠️ dad joke ⚠️ WLC said 7 is effete, but i don't think so. I've heard people say 7 ate 9. 😮
Because it stands to logic and reason that a celestial wizard shook the universe out of his sleeve
Biblical Hebrew has a smaller vocabulary than English. In biblical Hebrew, there is no word for universe. Instead, the Hebrew phrase that is translated “the heavens and the earth” is used to refer to the universe-the entirety of physical reality. The phrase is used thirteen times in the Old Testament, always referring to all matter, energy, space, and time in the universe. We now know that event was 13.787 ±0.020 billion years. This has been checked, proven and measured with many tools and they all agree. It is not just space that came to be 13.787 billion years ago, but time also. The universe is finite and expanding. Just as the Bible stated thousands of years ago. To deny the existence of a Creator is an error.
Of course it doesn't. God is not a celestial wizard, though. He is Spirit. Also, God exists, and everyone knows it.
Order is by design.
Nope
@@midlander4 Mere contradiction? Can you be a bit more vague?
@@kurtiskurzmann7642 your own assertion is hopelessly vague, so I don't even know where you're trying to go with this?
@@midlander4 And yet you replied and then declared it to be an assertion.
2 giants
Dr. Hugh Ross has two books for his religion namely: The modern bible which is under with his second book imagined THE "BOOK" NATURE, lol.
Now, WHY WOULDN'T THIS THEISTIC EVOLUTIONISTS write their own Bible with their supposed to be correct reading of BILLION of years of EVOLUTION? That way, we can easily determine the religion of DR. HUGH ROSS with the true Bible believers Historic Protestant. Why?
MAKE YOUR OWN BIBLE OF BILLION OF YEARS OF EVOLUTION. Why continue using the obvious 24-hour day of Genesis.
TELL YOUR CONVERTS THAT THIS IS YOUR BIBLE- BILLION YEARS OF EVOLUTION.
This comment presupposes a literalistic reading of Genesis that fails to reckon with the scholarship on the text's genre and its implications for interpretation. As Dr. Craig thoroughly demonstrates in his book In Quest of the Historical Adam, the creation texts are of the genre mytho-history and are suffused with figurative language. So, no, it's not "obvious" that Genesis is teaching that God's creative acts occurred in six literal 24-hour periods. In fact, very, very few Old Testament scholars believe the texts should be read literalistically. - RF Admin
@ReasonableFaithOrg Then make your own Bible, the correct reading according to your belief system of billion years of EVOLUTION. Be honest, like the Jehovah Witness, they made their own Bible according to their belief system. Stop using the Bible of day.
The Religion of THEISTIC EVOLUTION and their TWO infallible book of Authorities: Their BIBLE of BILLION YEARS of EVOLUTION and the SECOND BOOK the book of nature as interpreted correctly by their spiritual leader DR. HUGH ROSS. There you go. ESTABLISH YOUR CHURCH all over the world. That way, Christians will be aware of who you're truly are.
Here are the ref the Book of Nature:
Romans 1:20" For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.
Psalm 19 1-4: The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands.
Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they reveal knowledge. They have no speech, they use no words; no sound is heard from them. Yet their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world.
Biblical Hebrew has a smaller vocabulary than English. In biblical Hebrew, there is no word for universe. Instead, the Hebrew phrase that is translated “the heavens and the earth” is used to refer to the universe-the entirety of physical reality. The phrase is used thirteen times in the Old Testament, always referring to all matter, energy, space, and time in the universe. We now know that event was 13.787 ±0.020 billion years. This has been checked, proven and measured with many tools and they all agree. It is not just space that came to be 13.787 billion years ago, but time also. The universe is finite and expanding. Just as the Bible stated thousands of years ago. To deny the existence of a Creator is an error.
@@ReasonableFaithOrg The Bible is clear that the universe is young. Dr. Craig is unfortunately a Christian compromiser.
God created the Universe and it is obvious!
So obvious that virtually no seriously entertained physical model of the universe uses god in their equations.
Fine Tuning seems to argue for generic Deism while seemingly making Christian Theism less likely.
It's one thing to say that the structure and coherence of the universe seems inexplicable, but if you posit "design" then you have to contend with all of the elements of the universe that do not seem optimized for life and humanity more specifically. Some of those elements might be: the waste and destruction in the billions of years leading to us with mass extinction of most of the species over present on earth, most of which never shared the earth with modern humans, astroid impacts, the slow and messy progress of evolution, the problem of suffering, etc etc. Maybe the universe was "given" its structure somehow, but it seems nearly impossible that it was designed by a being that is all loving, all powerful, all knowing. At least not if that being has humanity in mind and is interested in relationship.
Thoughts?
Maybe your focus is in the wrong area?
@@renier4415 how do you mean? I'm happy to chat about it if you think I'm missing something important
@@landonpontius2478 i don't think I would have the capability so show you anything that you have missed. You sound open wel read and have thought deeply through this subject. I could maby say to us as human it might look like a messy prosses with alot of waist and why in this specific time are we as continuous beings here to experience measure and wonder in this tiny spot of the universe and in the a time that is nothing in respect the age of the universe. It doesn't make sence unless you could maby look at it in the way that Time, Energy, Process, Expertise and other stuff is equal to VALUE. That no cost would be spared to bring us in to this life to enjoy and partake and take care of what was created. But why does evil and suffering bother us? I think it is because we see and understand value. Why is it that if a loved one dies we experience pain? So my Theist Christian God understands that we could mis understand or blame Him. That is why I believe He came in to creation to take on some of the worst types of suffering willingly and dies a shameful death willingly to show us our Value and to show he is not seperate from us and His creation but deeply invested. I do believe there is a reason a deep thoughtful reason but at the moment we mighty not have the capacity to understand or our victim mentality could blind us to it. I know hear are many holes but i am only a layman this is the best way for me to learn. English is my second language please excuse my spelling and grammar.
Biblical Hebrew has a smaller vocabulary than English. In biblical Hebrew, there is no word for universe. Instead, the Hebrew phrase that is translated “the heavens and the earth” is used to refer to the universe-the entirety of physical reality. The phrase is used thirteen times in the Old Testament, always referring to all matter, energy, space, and time in the universe. We now know that event was 13.787 ±0.020 billion years. This has been checked, proven and measured with many tools and they all agree. It is not just space that came to be 13.787 billion years ago, but time also. The universe is finite and expanding. Just as the Bible stated thousands of years ago. To deny the existence of a Creator is an error.
@@djsarg7451 again, I think deism is plausible but you might be exaggerating what is "proven" scientifically at this point. My understanding, and I could be wrong, is that the current claim is that all matter/energy and space was condensed into a singularity, but that we do not have any evidence of that singularity coming into existence. So it fair to say our universe started then but a stretch to say that is the definitive moment of creation of existence itself.
Like I said, I'm not arguing that a cause isn't plausible, just that HOW the universe has developed and how it exists now in relation to life does not seem to support the existence of an all good, all powerful being.
From Adam to the Second coming there is 120 Jubilee..
We have just 1 more Generation left and that is only 40 more years left before the End of this Last Jubilee
I get the reflex to proclaim, "God did it",... it's simple and 'seemingly' rational, but as with many things, what seems plain, intuitive and straightforward is anything but.
Here, many of the brilliant scientists Graig quotes in his argument explain (in their own words) why his 'logic' doesn't hold up:
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Dumb and dumber. Craig's Kalam argument tries to get to a deist creator but fails. He has tried to argue his Dunning-Kruger view of universal origins with actual astrophysicists and cosmologists! And Ross is worse. If you want to believe, then believe based on your faith. But don't sully actual science with your belief.
Problem is, Bill, you're a layman. You don't understand physics, and you're paid to misrepresent a topic with inane xtian friendly soundbites.
What's another name for it? Oh yeah... Lying for Jesus.
Two self deluded Liars who don't understand Ancient history...the Universe needs no Cause
most all would think that everything is caused. Not so delusional I would say. What is history but caused recordings. Try to be a little more cogent.
Big bang theory is only man's word vs God's Word 7-day creation, both explaining the vastness of space multi-universe. If you believe man's word, then you are tricked for interpreting distances of stars and universe as measurement of time. For such distances using light years as measurements mind blowing impossible never-ending numbers. In contrast the Bible states: God created Heavens (meaning stary host, everything surrounding Earth) in accordance with God's 7-day cycle of Creation.
Here my point: let say we have a 100-meter football field, and every 10 meter we light up a candle stick indicating distance and time determine its age. We're using remote toy car symbolising speed of light, calculating our distance and time from every candle stick point on the football field. Obviously the further away you go to that candle, the greater distance and time is calculated. If you see from God's eyes: He created that football field one day. Just like the heavens above from one star to another, one universe to another, one galaxy to another all created in within the 7 days… these distances reveal our limitation and proves the Bible description God’s Wonderous Power and Glory in Creation.
This comment presupposes a literalistic interpretation of the creation texts in Genesis, which, as Dr. Craig has show in his book In Quest of the Historical Adam, fails to account for the genre analysis of those texts. Since the genre is mytho-history, such a literalistic interpretation actually reads into the text rather than reads from it. - RF Admin
Creates Essence which is mankind merging with God Wisdom = Sins.
But Uncreated Essence with Wisdom will have No Sins
William Lane Graig is the best evidence against ‘intelligent’ creation
The bible tell you that the 144,000 never sin in their entire life for God says No Sins was ever found thorough out their entire life..
The Lamb and the 144,000
…4These are the ones who have not been defiled with women, for they are virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever He goes. They have been redeemed from among men as firstfruits to God and to the Lamb. 5And no lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless
The 144,000 is a symbolic number that represents those who are saved. All of their sins are paid for at the moment of salvation. Thus, God sees them as being blameless. It doesn't mean that they literally never sin.
@@terminat1 The 144,000 are all those who Finished the Race into Teleios
Text Sermons : Greek Word Studies : Perfect (5046) teleios
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Perfect (5046) (teleios from telos = an end, a purpose, an aim, a goal) means complete, mature, fully developed, full grown, brought to its end, finished, wanting nothing necessary to completeness, in good working order.
Teleios signifies consummate soundness, includes the idea of being whole. Interestingly the Gnostics used teleios of the one fully initiated into their mysteries and that may have been why Paul used teleios in this epistle.
Teleios is used 19 times in the NT (Matthew 2x ; Romans 1 Corinthians 3x; Ephesians ;Philippians ; Colossians 2x; Hebrews 2x; James 4x ;1 John) and is translated in the NASB as: complete, 2; mature, 4; more perfect, 1; perfect, 12. The KJV has one use translated "of full age".
Earlier Paul after declaring the glorious truth to the Colossians that Christ was now in them and that He Alone was their Hope (absolute assurance of future good) of glory went on to emphasis that because of this great truth...
"we proclaim Him, admonishing every man and teaching every man with all wisdom, that we may present every man complete (teleios) in Christ. And for this purpose also I labor (to the point of literal exhaustion!), striving (agonizomai - same verb describing Epaphras' "laboring earnestly" in prayer for the same goal = that the Colossian saints would be complete in Christ) according to His power (which undoubtedly is how Epaphras also was enabled to prayer with such passion and power - and it is the only way we can pray this way - His power working in us and through us), which mightily works within me." (see note Colossians 1:28)
As discussed more fully below, teleios does not connote moral or spiritual perfection, or sinlessness, but rather refers to that which is fully developed.
Teleios has at least three shades of meaning:
(1) Teleios speaks of totality, as opposed to partial or limited and when used of things means in full measure, undivided, complete or entire (as in Romans 12:2 [note] referring to "the will of God" which is "good and acceptable and perfect"). When referring to persons the idea is that of complete or perfect ("Therefore you are to be perfect (teleios), as your heavenly Father is perfect (teleios)." Matthew 5:48 [note]- see more discussion below) Teleios describes a victim which is fit for a sacrifice to God as without blemish.
(2) Teleios also speaks of that which is fully development as opposed to that which is immature. And so it describes persons who are full grown or mature (especially referring to spiritual maturity). In Greek teleios was applied to physical growth and so a man who has reached his full-grown stature is teleios in contradistinction to a half-grown lad. A student who has reached a mature knowledge of his subject is teleios as opposed to a learner who is just beginning, and who as yet has no grasp of things. For example Pythagoras divided his students into the learners, and the mature. (teleios). Philo divided his students into three classes-those just beginning (archomenoi), those making progress (prokoptontes), and those beginning to reach maturity (teleios).
Teleios does not imply complete knowledge but a certain spiritual maturity in the faith. That is Epaphras' desire for the saints at Colossae.
(3) Teleios can refer to that which is in a state of full preparation or readiness
In all the above variations of meaning the underlying idea is that a purpose has been achieved or that a thing or person has reached its intended goal or end. The basic meaning of teleios in the New Testament is always that the thing or person so described fully carries out the purpose for which designed. And so when Greek speaks of "perfect" (teleios) it is in fact such if it perfectly carries out the purpose for which it was designed.
Richards explains teleios (and related words in this group such as teleioo, teleiotes) writing that the emphasis is on...
"wholeness and completeness. In the biological sense they mean "mature," or "full grown": the person, animal, or plant achieved the potential inherent in its nature. The perfect is the thing or person that is complete, in which nothing that belongs to its essence has been left out. It is perfect because every potential it possesses has been realized." (Ibid)
Wayne Detzler writes that the root meaning of teleios is...
"fulfilled purpose," which is seen in the English word "teleology" (the belief that any process is shaped by purpose). The "teleological" argument of the existence of God says that the purposeful arrangement of the universe demonstrates the existence of God. Later on this word assumed another meaning, that of perfection. When something fulfills its purpose, it is supposedly perfect. Aristotle emphasized the aspect of ethical perfection, doing that which is right. For him self-actualization was most important. A person should realize that which is right for himself, and this is perfection. In other words, perfection is not conforming to an external standard, be it God's or man's. In this sense Aristotle stood out in bold contrast with biblical ethics, which stress conformity to God's standard. Later, under the influence of Plato, perfection meant conformity to accepted virtues in Greek culture. When one exemplified these virtues in every way, he was perfect.
In its various forms teleios occurs about 100 times in the Greek New Testament. In each case it means "perfection," "completion," or "wholeness." For instance, in some cases it speaks of ethical perfection, behavior which is complete or whole. An example of this ethical perfection is found in James, when he asserted that endurance in the Christian life helps make one perfect (James 1:4). Let it be added that this does not teach sinless perfection. The Bible repeatedly emphasizes that no one is sinless, but every Christian should sin less every day. James illustrated this teaching by reference to obeying God's Law (James 1:25). Specifically, he saw the tongue as the main battleground in achieving spiritual perfection or wholeness (James 3:2, 6-12). James knew that true perfection is found in God alone (James 1:17).
In John's epistles there is likewise an emphasis on perfection. Here the sole source of perfection is God. Only God can give perfect love, which takes away fear (1 John 4:18). No perfection exists apart from Him.
@@terminat1 John Wesley Sermon 40 on Christians Perfection
The Sermons of John Wesley - Sermon 40
Christian Perfection
"Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect." Phil. 3:12.
1. There is scarce any expression in Holy Writ which has given more offence than this. The word perfect is what many cannot bear. The very sound of it is an abomination to them. And whosoever preaches perfection (as the phrase is,) that is, asserts that it is attainable in this life, runs great hazard of being accounted by them worse than a heathen man or a publican.
2. And hence some have advised, wholly to lay aside the use of those expressions, "because they have given so great offence." But are they not found in the oracles of God If so, by what authority can any Messenger of God lay them aside, even though all men should be offended We have not so learned Christ; neither may we thus give place to the devil. Whatsoever God hath Spoken that will we speak, whether men will hear or whether they will forbear; knowing that then alone can any Minister of Christ be "pure from the blood of all men," when he hath "not shunned to declare unto them all the counsel of God." [Acts 20:26, 27]
3. We may not, therefore, lay these expressions aside, seeing they are the words of God, and not of man. But we may and ought to explain the meaning of them, that those who are sincere of heart may not err to the right hand or to the left, from the mark of the prize of their high calling. And this is the more needful to be done because in the verse already repeated the Apostle speaks of himself as not perfect: "Not," saith he, "as though I were already perfect." And yet immediately after, in the fifteenth verse, he speaks of himself, yea and many others, as perfect. "Let us," saith he, "as many as be perfect, be thus minded." [Phil. 3:15]
4. In order, therefore, to remove the difficulty arising from this seeming contradiction, as well as to give light to them who are pressing forward to the mark, and that those who are lame be not turned out of the way, I shall endeavor to show,
First, in what sense Christians are not; and,
Secondly, in what sense they are, perfect.
I. 1. In the first place I shall endeavor to show in what sense Christians are not perfect. And both from experience and Scripture it appears, First, that they are not perfect in knowledge: they are not so perfect in this life as to be free from ignorance. They know, it may be, in common with other men, many things relating to the present world; and they know, with regard to the world to come, the general truths which God hath revealed. They know, likewise, (what the natural man receiveth not, for these things are spiritually discerned,) "what manner of love" it is wherewith "the Father" hath loved them, "that they should be called the sons of God." [1 John 3:1] They know the mighty working of his Spirit in their hearts; [Eph. 3:16] and the wisdom of his providence, directing all their paths, [Prov. 3:6] and causing all things to work together for their good. [Rom. 8:28] Yea, they know in every circumstance of life what the Lord requireth of them, and how to keep a conscience void of offence both toward God and toward man. [Acts 24:16]
2. But innumerable are the things which they know not. Touching the Almighty himself, they cannot search him out to perfection. "Lo, these are but a part of his ways; but the thunder of his power who can understand" [Job 26:14] They cannot understand, I will not say, how "there are Three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one;" [1 John 5:7] or how the eternal Son of God "took upon himself the form of a servant;" [Phil. 2:7] -- but not any one attribute, not any one circumstance of the divine nature. [2 Pet. 1:4] Neither is it for them to know the times and seasons [Acts 1:7] when God will work his great works upon the earth; no, not even those which he hath in part revealed by his servants and Prophets since the world began. [see Amos 3:7] Much less do they know when God, having "accomplished the number of his elect, will hasten his kingdom;" when "the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat." [2 Pet. 3:10]
3. They know not the reasons even of many of his present dispensations with the sons of men; but are constrained to rest here, -- Though "clouds and darkness are round about him, righteousness and judgment are the habitation of his seat." [Ps. 97:2] Yea, often with regard to his dealings with themselves, doth their Lord say unto them, "What I do, thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter." [John 13:7] And how little do they know of what is ever before them, of even the visible works of his hands! -- How "he spreadeth the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing" [Job 26:7] how he unites all the parts of this vast machine by a secret chain which cannot be broken So great is the ignorance, so very little the knowledge, of even the best of men!
4. No one, then, is so perfect in this life, as to be free from ignorance. Nor, Secondly, from mistake; which indeed is almost an unavoidable consequence of it; seeing those who "know but in part" [1 Cor. 13:12] are ever liable to err touching the things which they know not. It is true, the children of God do not mistake as to the things essential to salvation: They do not "put darkness for light, or light for darkness;" [Isa. 5:20] neither "seek death in the error of their life." [Wisdom 1:12] For they are "taught of God," and the way which he teaches them, the way of holiness, is so plain, that "the wayfaring man, though a fool, need not err therein." [Isa. 35:8] But in things unessential to salvation they do err, and that frequently. The best and wisest of men are frequently mistaken even with regard to facts; believing those things not to have been which really were, or those to have been done which were not. Or, suppose they are not mistaken as to the fact itself, they may be with regard to its circumstances; believing them, or many of them, to have been quite different from what in truth, they were. And hence cannot but arise many farther mistakes. Hence they may believe either past or present actions which were or are evil, to be good; and such as were or are good, to be evil. Hence also they may judge not according to truth with regard to the characters of men; and that, not only by supposing good men to be better, or wicked men to be worse, than they are, but by believing them to have been or to be good men who were or are very wicked; or perhaps those to have been or to be wicked men, who were or are holy and unreprovable.
@@terminat1 Saint John of the Cross and Sanctified by Dark Night of your Soul into Christian Perfection
The Dark Night of the Soul (La noche oscura del alma) is a phase of passive purification of the spirit in the mystical development, as described by the 16th-century Spanish mystic and poet St. John of the Cross in his treatise Dark Night (Noche Oscura), a commentary on his poem with the same name. It follows after the second phase, the illumination in which God's presence is felt, but this presence is not yet stable. The author himself did not give any title to his poem, which together with this commentary and the Ascent of Mount Carmel (Subida del Monte Carmelo) forms a treatise on the active and passive purification of the senses and the spirit, leading to mystical union.[1]
In modern times, the phrase "dark night of the soul" is used to describe a crisis of faith or a difficult, painful period in one's life.
The poem
Dating and subject
The poem of St. John of the Cross, in eight stanzas of five lines each, narrates the journey of the soul to the mystical union with God. The time or place of composition are not certain. It is likely that the poem was written between 1577 and 1579. It has been proposed that the poem was composed while John was imprisoned in Toledo, although the few explicit statements in this regard are unconvincing and second-hand.[2]
The journey is called "dark night" in part because darkness represents the fact that the destination "God" is unknowable, as in the 14th-century mystical classic The Cloud of Unknowing; both pieces are derived from the works of Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite in the 6th century.[citation needed] Further, the path per se is unknowable. The "dark night" does not refer to the difficulties of life in general,[3] although the phrase has been taken to refer to such trials.
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La noche oscura del alma[4]
En una noche oscura
Con ansias en amores inflamada,
¡Oh dichosa ventura!
Sali sin ser notada,
Estando ya mi casa sosegada.
A oscuras, y segura
Por la secreta escala disfrazada,
¡Oh dichosa ventura!
A oscuras y encelada
Estando ya mi casa sosegada.
En la noche dichosa
En secreto, que nadie me veia,
Ni yo miraba cosa,
Sin otra luz, y guia,
Sino la que en el corazón ardia.
Aquesta me guiaba
Más cierto que la luz del mediodia,
A donde me esperaba,
Quien yo bien me sabia,
En parte, donde nadie parecia.
¡Oh noche que guiaste,
Oh noche amable más que el alborada;
Oh noche que juntaste
Amado con amada,
Amada en el Amado transformada!
En mi pecho florido,
Que entero para él sólo se guardaba,
Allí quedó dormido,
Y yo le regalaba,
Y el ventalle de cedros aire daba.
El aire de la almena,
Cuando yo sus cabellos esparcia,
Con su mano serena
En mi cuello heria,
Y todos mis sentidos suspendia.
Quedéme, y olvidéme,
El rostro recliné sobre el Amado,
Cesó todo, y dejéme,
Dejando mi cuidado
Entre las azucenas olvidado.
Dark Night of the Soul[5]
On a dark night,
Kindled in love with yearnings
-oh, happy chance!-
I went forth without being observed,
My house being now at rest.
In darkness and secure,
By the secret ladder, disguised
-oh, happy chance!-
In darkness and in concealment,
My house being now at rest.
In the happy night,
In secret, when none saw me,
Nor I beheld aught,
Without light or guide,
save that which burned in my heart.
This light guided me
More surely than the light of noonday
To the place where he (well I knew who!)
was awaiting me-
A place where none appeared.
Oh, night that guided me,
Oh, night more lovely than the dawn,
Oh, night that joined
Beloved with lover,
Lover transformed in the Beloved!
Upon my flowery breast,
Kept wholly for himself alone,
There he stayed sleeping,
and I caressed him,
And the fanning of the cedars made a breeze.
The breeze blew from the turret
As I parted his locks;
With his gentle hand
he wounded my neck
And caused all my senses to be suspended.
I remained, lost in oblivion;
My face I reclined on the Beloved.
All ceased and I abandoned myself,
Leaving my cares
forgotten among the lilies.
X-< The universe was created in 1976. It is too hot to make a universe at the time of the big bang. It can be created at anytime. God is slow and easy. A human can do a lot with their lifespan. I got the hunk. God got the chunk. Everyone else can have the rest. That is song spirit of ''76 by The Alarm.
(^_^;) This is an artistic proof of a created universe. When you paint a shadow it's the opposite color of the object that made the shadow. Nobody knew what the opposite color of white was so the artists avoided painting white on white. The opposite color of white is baby blue and baby pink. The first artist to figure it out was Norman Rockwell. I was the second artist to figure it out. I saw it in the corner of a white room. The lighting was perfect to see it.
Is there an official term for your psychiatric condition?
@danieltemelkovski9828 it's called disclosure.
@danieltemelkovski9828 a spy uses capitalism like a theme park. I was an autobody man for sexy physics. I worked in a convenience store next to a stadium. That the best way to know humanity. We are going to make capitalism a theme park with robots. A classification is better than a university degree because you make an evolved mind rather than memorizing facts like a tape recorder.
@@robertmcclintock8701 get help bro. You don't have to live like this.
@danieltemelkovski9828 an education made everyone think an intelligent universe is mental illness. Everything will be disclosed with artificial intelligence so we don't go crazy laboring.
( ・◇・)？artifacts of a swastika is flobby with stazzle and a jumble that tumbled. That is a skeleton, human heart, signature, internal combustion engine, animation of the big bang and a wave. That unify the universe you can't do with math. A swastika is the simplest rendering possible for those artifacts and needs to be saved from the nazis. ( ´～｀)
( ；-｀д´-) It's intelligently designed that if you master evolution it just makes you a baby doctor.
Biblical Hebrew has a smaller vocabulary than English. In biblical Hebrew, there is no word for universe. Instead, the Hebrew phrase that is translated “the heavens and the earth” is used to refer to the universe-the entirety of physical reality. The phrase is used thirteen times in the Old Testament, always referring to all matter, energy, space, and time in the universe. We now know that event was 13.787 ±0.020 billion years. This has been checked, proven and measured with many tools and they all agree. It is not just space that came to be 13.787 billion years ago, but time also. The universe is finite and expanding. Just as the Bible stated thousands of years ago. To deny the existence of a Creator is an error.
@djsarg7451 their is a lot of people that think an intelligent universe is mental illness. That probably is going to change. We are doing disclosure and intelligent design is therapeutic.
@djsarg7451 their is a lot of people that think an intelligent universe is mental illness. That will change because intelligent design is therapeutic.
@@djsarg7451 I can't respond to you because they keep censoring me. Their must be someone dedicated to censoring me at all times.
@djsarg7451 intelligent design is therapeutic but their is alot of people that act like an intelligent universe is mental illness.
σ(^_^;)? We need to popularize the idea of getting God married. Getting God married is a good use of someone's time. You are supposed to make the environment intelligent so no God is needed. We fixed the video and audio for the best experience possible. Cameras are supernatural and all of them captured 3D that not a gimmick. The audio loud don't make violence so has depth. Nobody has to buy anything for it to work.
Hi, Please read your Bible he is married. The bride of Christ, or the lamb's wife, is a metaphor used in number of related verses in the Bible.
He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: thus my joy therefore is fulfilled.
- John 3:29,
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. [...] And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the lamb's wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God
- Revelation 21:2, 9-10, King James Version
And the Spirit and the bride say, "Come." And let him that heareth say, "Come." And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
- Revelation 22:17, New International Version
The question will you be there? Or have you rejected his love and forgiveness?
( ´д｀) Natural selection is the character flaw in evil that is integrity is more important than life otherwise evolution is tragic circumstances with nothing intelligent happening. Almost everyone survive until they reproduce. Nothing is getting selected except for the character flaw in evil. I found a replacement for the character flaw in evil that I liked but God makes me forget things that will cause me trouble.
(^_^;))) Consciousness is the particle and wave double slit experiment. The cones and rods of your eyes preserve the particle and wave duality so your vision don't look like a flat screen television. It's supposed to be a violation of physics but it is the only exception in the whole universe.
The dumbest thing ever in the history of dumbness is thinking the universe is possible without God.
Not that the earth is flat, or that crystals cure cancer. No it is thinking that since we can't see any evidence to suggest that a god exists, it probably does not exist.
The dumbest thing is that you can’t even cogently define God and if you were to be subjected to any religious topic, your definition of god would gradually change to be able to account for any question raised.
Great video! Keep up the great Kingdom work!