How Was This Done in The 1890's ?? Take a Look !!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ธ.ค. 2021
- This video shows the mechanical workings of a beautiful 1890's scale model drill press. How did they do this back then? Much respect.
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That assembly has a couple dozen places that a few thousandth's would cause misalignment and binding in a half dozen ways. Tracking down a miscalculation could be a challenge on its own. Just speaks volumes as to the level of skill you are showing us by building this, and making modifications to improve it, and still have everything line up perfectly.
Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
Bloody hell, this " making miniatures" has been such a great series - and more to come:)!!. :) Thankyou Joe and all the best for Christmas and the new year.
Absolute ART. Incredible work. :)
Fun fact: these are normal sized parts. Joe is just a massive human being.
You were not meant to let the secret out, and Joe's wolf spider is going to appear in a Hollywood blockbuster !
Hahahaha!
And did you see that he managed to bend that 1" Allen key?
Only his level of skill is massive!.
I knew it!!!
Hi Joe, Another incredible episode.
When I was very young and visited my grandparents home, my grandfather had a hand operated drill that was fixed to a post under the house, and my brother and I would spend hours playing with the drill and drilling holes in bits of old wood. It had an auto advance mechanism that was adjustable and was driven by the handle you turned to operate the drill. When you finished your hole, you fliped the little pawl that drove the advance and wound the drill back up. All the gears and workings were exposed and never did either my brother or I get our fingers caught in any of those gears.
I would agree with you, the mechanics was totally simple and fully exposed, but totally functional, and you could add oil and they lasted forever.
My grandfather died in 1982 aged 94, he came out from England as a 22 year old in about 1911, and brought with him his metal turning lathe, which I still have and hope to restore before I fall off the planet, and the little lathe model you did reminds me of that. His was a treadle lathe, and is still complete, my dad put an electric motor on it when his father died and brougt it home to our place. I have used it when I was young to turn things on it as a treadle lathe, it is no wonder that generation was fit!
Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
Keith Fenner has a full size version of the same style of drill as your model, and I have seen him do line boring of the ears on an excavator bucket on it when he didn't have any alternaive machine for the job.
You stay safe too, and all the best for Christmas.
Regards from Oz, Dennis.
If I had that kit I think I would attempt to put a tapered hole at the end of the spindle along with a slot for a drift. Then get a small drill bit and grind a matching taper on the shank and shorten the flute length. I think it would be fun challenge. The project looks great Joe.
The print calls for exactly that. It will be done before the completion.
@@joepie221 Oh cool. Can't wait to see that. Also, I wish you and your family a very Marry Christmas.
Thanks joe, because of you I have a new found love and passion, I’ve bought a centre lathe, a vertical mill and a 4 axis cnc, I hired an engineer to give me lessons and cover safety using the equipment and I’m now fully evolved making plenty of mistakes but I’m learning so much from so here’s the biggest thank you. Cheers mate all the way from Queensland Australia 👍
I think you should fly Joe over to give some lessons lol, be a good vacation
above all be safe !!!! it only takes a momentary lapse in reason....
That is a pretty big jump Greg, especially the CNC. Is the CNC a mill or lathe?
Keep having fun and exploring what those things can do.
I'm in Queenslannd too, Sunny Coast. Great place to be.
Having been a life long engineer and model engineer in my spare time, I have seen a number of people rush and do the same only to lose interest and sell up when they get bored or make mistakes.
The ones that have lasted have always been the ones with the least amount of money and a willingness to try.
@@dennisleadbetter7721 hi Dennis, sunny coast as well. Buderim to be exact. It’s a CNC mill I’m still playing with it having a few issues with setup but it’s a learning curve, just installed axis limit switches and coolant pump and about to install a vacuum, I’ve also built a cage around it with plexiglass windows. The lathe and stand alone mill are both Omni from Forbes and hare Brisbane. I’m an electronics engineer and been very busy through covid so haven’t had much time on the machining of late but it will wait for my retirement haha. Are you a machining hobbyists as well or is it your career?
There are two measurements of production, quantity and quality. It's rare to achieve both together. High labour costs equal quantity, high material costs equal quality. Back in the 19th centry labour was cheap and materials expensive. So bosses could invest lots of hours cheaply on machines that were valuable. The same era produced some very clever engineers, Stephenson, Brunel, Benz, etc and these people set the groundwork and standards for all future developments. These days labour is more expensive than materials.
The work Joe has put into this, and every, model is a high tribute to the engineers of old and any piece would be a worthy addition to any industrial museum. As a collection, unique and priceless.
And Much respect to you for you making the tiny assembly! Makes me wonder what kind of machines they had back in the 1890's and the very ingenious engineering too... it's very cool to see this replica scale put together. Enjoying this a lot.
You are incredible...! That setscrew machining was the GRAND FINALE ...lol Just keeps getting better and better.... Great Job!
Absolutely beautiful Joe. I’m learning so much
Merry Christmas to you and your family
I thought that I was speechless before... I can only describe my thoughts as 'numb' now, this is so fantastic.
I am fascinated by the history behind machine tools and have several books on the subject. You mention the innovation of the 1890s - you should look up the developments in the 1700s of the screwcutting lathes, then Maudsley's work to produce the modern lathe, and how the American Civil War and the shortage of skilled labour drove the automation of many features in American machines by Whitney and his contemporaries.
To think that what we recognise as line shafting was only invented in 1815, and this drove a massive development in machine tools by increasing rotational speeds by a factor of 10. I have regularly demonstrated a Victorian lineshaft workshop with tools from the 1840s to the 1870s, and I can't help but be amazed at the ingenuity of those that drove the industrial revolution. They created wonder from nothing - today people only take a tiny step from what is already there. I often think that it would have been a fantastic time to have lived, but then I remember that my grandfather was born before manned flight of aeroplanes and lived to see the moon landings.
We had a drill press a lot like this one in a Truck Shop I worked in 35 years ago!!!!!!
Absolutely beautiful work Joe…
it's so cute ! I have a full size one, looks a lot like that, belonged to my grandfather, my father used it and I still use it, I'm 71 years old.
I have one my Dad made in tech school just before WWII.
That torque handle also has the clever ability to be repositioned to 4 different positions so its in the right position for the stroke you desire
I'm keen to see how you're going to machine the Morse taper socket in the end of the spindle! Nice work as per usual.
Hi Mark. Thanks for stopping by. I'll bore it in with a micro carbide boring bar.
Like christmas morning!
Everything we do now had to take 10 times as long back then. Obviously, patience was a bigger part of the trade in years gone by.
Well back in the day all the cutting tools where high carbon tool steel. Slow cutting speeds. They go dull just looking at them.
@@mpetersen6 that’s funny thanks ✨
Hello Mr. Joe, your lathe work is always an inspiration, I have a mini lathe but I'm an amateur and I like to make small parts and watching your videos is a real lesson, thank you for making your skills available to everyone. Have a great 2022!
Wow! Former machinist’s first time watching. Really enjoyed using the full sized version of this drill press…
Fantastic video and skill!!!
Thank you very much!
Love this series of miniature's , looking at the porosity in the casting reminded me of a repair i did once. I used a diamond file and a piece of scrape to produce some aluminum dust and a drop of silver paint to make a slurry to fill the porosity spots. Just fill allow to dry and repeat till above the surface, when dry and dress down to flush
You'd be surprised the patience people can have when there's no other way to do things
That is amazing. When you first started this I thought it would be a much simpler project. After watching I'm amazed at your skills.
Funny, I thought the same thing.
That is one helluva assembly.
That 40 minutes flew by. Pretty cool stuff!
oh buddy iv jumped down the rabbit whole on the 1800s. that being said, love ur work. i took metal class in 8th grade, welding 9th and 10th. been working with it even since. everyone in my family works with wood. lol. again, ty for ur time sir.
Dang I didn't know they had cameras like that good of quality back then...
Beautiful is an understatement. Gorgeous is barely enough. Amazing kind of rounds it out.
amazing patience and skill
Thank you.
it truely is amazing to study machine tool progression and innovation. fist tine i seen a screw machine in action i knew rue goldberg lived
Yet another amazing piece of engineering and a brilliant video. Stay Safe Joe.
Man... I'd need a box full of those setscrews to be able to assemble this part :o) Beautiful and precise works as always.
Joe, after you are finished you miniature machine shop tools find a nice two shelf glass front case. Put in a belt shaft above each shelf with belts between shelves to a motor. All machines can then be ran as in the old days. Bet you could find some TH-camrs to help on the woodworking side of things. To go that extra tens miles, add staircase between shelves and people working at the machines. Just kidding, you've done enough and done it exceptionally. I've always had a vision of projects taken way too far. lol
Who needs a motor when Joe has a steam engine.
Great video as always. Thank you for the bonus shop gems too. I learn something new every time. Thank you, stay well and have a merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas to you and your family. Thank you for the year of positive education.
Man, you’re a helleva machinist
Awesome work, you are providing a rare chance to see how this was made. Keith Fenner still uses the full size one of these now.
Another beauty emerging from the chips.
Excellent stuff, & I Know! I was apprenticed in 1950's to Henry Maudslay & Co. (He made the first screwcutting lathe -around 1798/1800& also the first micrometer). Many major English Machine manufacturers in late 1800's made small copies of their products, so the travelling salesmen could demonstrate more easily & successfully their machines & wares at suitable places on request. In my youth I did see a small exhibition of these almost miraculous & exquisite Lathes & boring machines, + Drilling & planing m/ch'ns, I believe a number of museums around England still have these "Beautiful little machines" on display.
Best takeaway from this instalment for me is the sacrificial fixture and co-axial lockscrew for machining the points on those tiny setscrews. Just tried it with an M4 lockscrew and M2 setscrew and found I had to machine a projecting point on the end of the M4 to press against the bottom of the hex socket of the M2 otherwise it would spin the M2 as I tightened the M4. Once locked, it worked perfectly. Another great tip, thanks Joe.
Thank you so much for taking the time to produce these videos Joe. An outstanding piece of work/art. It’s so amazing to be able to take a chunk of something and transform it into something amazing. Have a great holiday week and Merry Christmas.
Once again perfection. Merry Christmas Joe
Great skill and the expected high quality workmanship as usual. I hope your clients can see for themselves these attributes in your work for we all can. Merry Christmas to you, your family and friends.
I liked your lathe series but this is way more interesting and cooler!
Nice work, Joe....it is beautiful.
I love old equipment, vehicles and tools.
Very nice job.
Wish I had the tools and spot to do works like that.
Peace.
I recently saw the real life version of this exact casting drill press at an auction. I remember distinctly the "Y" shape. It was nearly 8' tall, and down in some guy's basement. It was truly a beautiful piece of art, industrial design, and engineering.
Another detailed show from our friend Joe Pie. Love fixtures and jogs. I can't see any other way to do these pieces without them. This assembly is as beautiful, practical and functional as can be. Your mods just improve on them so they can be used as functional pieces of equip. I hope one day we can see them all being used to make the dream project in your mind. Thanks a bunch Joe. This one really rocks fella.
Thanks for the comment. The mini shop should look pretty cool.
@@joepie221 Seeing them all set up driven by the overhead drive shaft will be an one of one build. You have added to the original builds with just enough improvements to make these pieces truly one of a kind and a working one of a kind machine. I am pretty sure none of them aside from the drive engine were meant to be used. The video series of a piece being made will go viral (in my thinking) You already have a mind sight of this build but we can only imagine. The only question that has been nagging at me is if you will be making a proper power boiler to power the engine ? I probably will have to just wait and wait just like everyone else eh, LOL. As always Joe, thanks a bunch. It is a real pleasure to see the way you approach these pieces. Takes me back to days of old when knights were bold and, , , LOL.
My Grandfather was a machinist. He arrived here from NI with his two brothers. He and his brothers had to have a sponsor. A family in “Turtle Creek” near Pittsburg, PA raised him. (The Hope family, I have pictures.) My father, uncles, and bother, were all machinist. I started on a lathe in my Grandfathers basement but became a shop teacher for thirty three years. We have had family machine shops. Shops had belt driven machines. Then Bridgeports. Sometimes when you retired or the company got corporate bank f**ked the company would let you take the machined you used on your shift as a departing.) We had a Brown & Sharp Milling Machine from a company departure by my Grandfather. My Grandfather had very detailed training could do advanced mathematics as required by a machinist apprentice. Many details to be told, but not here with thumb typing. A note, I learned early SLO-Syn paper tape CNC went into computer CNC, and from that I was tainted! The “FORCE IS NO LONGER WIT YOU”! I still have my machinist box.
Thanks for the story.
Pretty amazing. We need to see a drill chuck build.🙂🙂
I seriously enjoy simplicity . Longevity is way better than complexity. Nice work Joe
Beautiful work!
I can not tell you how much I enjoy watching a Master craftsman do his work. You are truly amazing!
One heck of an assembly, by one heck of an assembler and maker !!!! How do you improve precision? Give it to Joe, he'll not only make it better but show and explain how he did it. The patience of a saint, precision better than a swiss watchmaker, with teaching skills earned from years of practical experience.
Wow... I'm astonished at your skills machining all those parts at such a miniature scale. I take my hat off to you sir.
Thank you very much!
Dude, you amaze me.
Outstanding video.
The scale and precision of this part of the project is a testament to your skill Joe! A thing of beauty buddy.
Thanks for such an insightful and truly rewarding narrative on replacing and building part's for a miniature marvel. What's not to appreciate, perhaps it's the affording the right craftsman, their respective dues in recognition of such finely detailed micro-engineering.
Excellent work.
It is amazing to me that people are able to conceptualize and then build useful and necessary tools and consumer products. It makes me wonder how they are able to do these things and is it something a person learns or are they born with this capacity to create?
As a lifelong carpenter, builder, diy guy, Ive thought about this occassionally.
In my opinion and personal assessment, having an above average spatial reasoning 'score' and/or strong ability to mentally visualize in abstract as well as realistic detail is important.
But, what comes first the chicken or the egg? I think a bit of both. Work like this teaches you 'x-ray vision' and the ability to run mental models. Its also probably use-it-or-lose-it, and even the average person should gain on others who dont practice this type of stuff as the years go by.
Not sure why I had to go into that much detail, and Im probably full of malarkey, but I though you had a really good and interesting question.
I can machine & create like this....but I cannot play guitar! It drives me crazy
WOW! It is truly admirable. Thanks, Joe
It was a pleasure to watch this, thank you and have a merry and healthy Christmas.
Excellent skills.
I think you should try using super glue to hold small parts on a lathe or milling machine for machining I use it all the time and it works perfectly so much easier. There is a TH-cam machinist I think his name is click spring he uses superglue for machining all the time.
I agree, I use super glue all the time, Joe is a no "crazy glue" guy and I respect that, but if used correctly it's just another great tool.
@@kellyodom9596 another under expoited tool is the downcutting endmill. You can machine parts with huge overhang with a machinist jack and downcut em.
Amazing work
Thank you Joe . Your time and detail shines above and beyond on this project
👍👍 What more can be said.
Work of art joe! I can tell in your voice you’re excited to have completed this project without any incidents. Even after 45 years of engineering we can still get excited when making these kind of projects. I would take a guess you started your apprenticeship in 1976 the same as me.
Just excellent work. Thanks for sharing this.
Best educational machining TH-cam channel there is & most enjoyable to watch , thanks Joe 🙏
Incredible work
An outstanding piece of work. Thank you for sharing.
I agree about the beautiful ingenuity of the design. Nice work Joe. Thanks.
Merry Christmas to you and your family, Joe 🎄
Great video, as always 👍
Of all the builds Ive seen, this one I am most impressed with. Unique in design, visually appealing and functiinally sound. Thanks for sharing. Incredible craftsmanship at any scale!
I found your channel by accident but am so glad that some accidents are very rewarding as this accident as proven to be. An admirable piece of Engineering Sir, you gave me an immense amount of pleasure watching you make this miniature. I look forward to seeing more of your dedicated work. Seasons Greetings from UK
Fascinating Joe. I operated one just like that in my wife's grandfather's blacksmith/machine shop in the early 1970s. His shop opened in 1918. You continue to make me a better hobby machinist. thanks....
Glad to hear that.
So cool. Great work, Joe. Can't wait to see this in a line up with its shop-mates.
Amazed how ingeniously you overcome the various challenges during this build. Learned a lot and enjoyed a lot more. Thanks again!
I love your solutions for machining out of the ordinary parts. I could have used many of these ideas at work many years ago. Keep well.
Great build, thanks for sharing this project:
Absolutely amazing Joe, congrat!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Beautiful Joe!
Outstanding work!
Absolutely fantastic Joe.
Thank you Joe Pie, Merry Christmas ☃️🎄
Another good one Joe Pie! Thanks for sharing your magic with us once again. Really enjoying these small projects. Keep up the awesome work!
Absolutely smashing Joe and you have inspired me to try to make a quill for my horizontal milling machine
Wife's grandfather started a blacksmith shop in 1918. He had a drill press just like that. I have the privilege of going up and working a couple days with him in his shop in the 1970s. Almost everything in there was driven with line shafts. Huge lathes that were used to turn parts for the the textile mills in town.
Thanks for showing this Joe. You continue to do some amazing work and teach me to be a better hobby machinist.
Outstanding. I'm glad to help.
Many thanks for your wonderful tuition.
My pleasure.
Very interesting and nice work Joe, and thanks for the tip about the 90deg, groove and grub screw to match, that's solved a tricky problem of a similar nature that was troubling one of my projects. Looking forward to seeing the completed model.
Another installment in the Joe Pie museum of excellent craftsmanship!
Another fantastic lesson in basic fixturing.
I loved that little jig at the start and how you used to hold the reference to the center line.
Thanks for the video Joe.
Great job mr Joe every time you make new video I learn something new thanks for the time patience and experience you share G bless you and your family
Outstanding my man. I had a good time.
Beautiful Joe! Really nice work!🎚🙏🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
Thank you sir, beautiful work as always. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Beautiful work as always Joe. I learn something from every one of your videos, even if I do forget a lot of it soon after. 😊 Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us all. 👍👍👍👍👍