What's the DEAL with Eyes Wide Shut? | Short Documentary
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- Twitter - / guidebythelight
Instagram - / thetickoftheclock
Website Portfolio - crimsonfosterp...
Today, we focus on what went on behind the scenes for Stanley Kubrick's final film; the erotic mystery thriller Eyes Wide Shut (1999), starring Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman.
Letterboxd - letterboxd.com...
Vero - "Jacob Foster"
#StanleyKubrick #EyesWideShut #TomCruise
*Copyrighted content used under the Fair Use exception for review and commentary.
Eyes Wide Shut is an intellectually profound film unlike most films of today, It's a film that provokes reflection, thought and analysis because it is overflowing with symbolism and subtextual meaning. Most films today are superficial cliches based on society's post modern erroneous values and unoriginality made to dumb us down, of sorts.
You talk as if there was some period where all the movie been made were intellectually profound.
Well it certainly provoked reflection in my case. I am on the brink of achieving a "perfect life" like Dr. Bill hence why he resonated with me so much. The film gave me so much food for thought, it tells you that even when you think that you have it all figured out in life, there are depths you will never be able to grasp whole, and if not careful, can swallow you up. You never stop learning and growing, never. Not forgetting this fact takes a lot of humility.
They were never both ready to give up everything. Just Alice. It's a power shift in the relationship. It's been under his radar for the whole past that she's not that much into him. Also, she might be just playing with him, after being at the party, having been approached by the older guy.
It's obvious that Alice asked him if he knew anyone present at Victor's party, because she knows some people at the party, but they wouldn't approach her there. In the way she treats her husband throughout the film, she tries to destroy his self-confidence, she tries to destroy their trust in each other, she tries to unsettle him deeply. It's a sign that she is part of the whole game, and that he is played.
She's part of the girls who appear as objects of desire among the masked powerful ones of the second party. It's this memory that makes her flee from him at the first party with a lie as an excuse, and start to drink in a very bad and desperate mood.
It's because of constant interruptions that Bill doesn't get anywhere before showing up at the second party. It's not his choice, he is haunted by the requirements of his profession and his personal life. At the same time, she isn't in love, it has nothing to do with love, when she refers to the sailor. It's pure attraction, it's just a spur of the moment, just pure desire.
At the same time it is supposed to show, just like the kiss from the daughter of his dead patient, that women are just like men, if only the circumstances enable them to do so. It's obvious that Stanley Kubrick shows his personal opinion that the difference between men and women isn't in their instincts or their desire, it's about convention and convenience more than anything else. It's also true for the words the older guy uses in his conversation with Alice. He talks about the way society works, and that intelligent women must make sure to find a wealthy man to marry before they are allowed to be free to do as they please, and maybe ruin his life by divorcing him with a child, especially in a case like Bill and Alice, with her having no personal income.
It's obvious that Bill wandering around the streets of New York is a metaphor for men walking through their lives, with a career in mind and finding out that they are victims, as soon as they sign a contract, that is called marriage. Because it's not about love, it's about money and rights, especially when the next generation is involved.
Bill is the reason why his daughter is abducted by the two men in the final scene, and Alice knows it, but he, like always, doesn't have a clue!!!
@@sarahg3500 I just watched it again last night and replayed the final scene with the daughter. There are two men but they never abduct the girl.
I am open to looking at it again if you have any suggestions. I looked but I just don't see it.
Most pretentious comment I've ever read
After going down deep deep rabbit holes about the elite, cabal, Illuminati, deep state, adrenochrome etc…I watched this movie and saw a whole different movie
some see it, others see a weird movie
Exactly!!
Satanic shit
Dumb shit... Fuck satanic bitches
And we all work for them
Think
Stop working
Come togher and stop atanif shit
You're not digging anywhere, because if you're not among the elite, you'll never see the reality you think you're talking about.
There's a world out there where mistakes aren't allowed and leaving clues to the uninitiated would be a mistake.
One of my favorite movies for many reasons, but one of those reasons is because it shows us a glimpse of how the ultra elite live and what they do for kicks
You really do have to watch this movie twice at least. While I was very impressed the first time I saw it, I was baffled, and I discover new worlds within it on each new viewing. How many other films can you say that about? (Aside from other Stanley Kubrick films, of course!)
You have to watch it way more than two times
Mulholland drive
Agree 100%
Just that things are never quite what they seem to be. Especially when it comes to women. There's always other things to consider than their own choices.
What Bill is looking for, is pleasure, adventure and excitement and of course, reassurance after his wife had crushed his simplistic worldview.
Still, it's not the important part of this film. It's all just a prelude to the second party. It's about telling us what is really going on while we as the huge majority of the people, have our eyes wide shut.
It's an intertwined dance between EROS or the life force, and the fascination of death, THANATOS.
It's a main thesis in Freud's research that everything everyone does is either supporting EROS or thanatos. In essence, EROS is the secret of two entities combined with each other, setting free energy to create life and join in the creative power of an unknown creator.
Thanatos is setting free energy when dividing the life force from a single person, thus ending the creative power of an unknown creator.
My guess is that the movie shows that both EROS and THANATOS are used by powerful ones to suppress the majority of the people in society, and that mere power over others is not satisfying for powerful ones who have everything that money can buy.
It's more of a thesis on the working of dreams and their illusions as the grounds of the stability of society. And his approach was to show us what is really going on behind closed doors, while our eyes are wide shut!
Without the thirty minutes that were edited out of the movie, the whole movie is incomplete.
@@sarahg3500 That‘s an intriguing insight, Sarah. The movie invites the rest of us also to open our eyes to explore our world and, like Dr. Bill, really see it for the first time. Any idea what‘s in those missing 30 minutes…?
this movie affected me the way any great piece of art affects you. it's a feast for the eyes. i could see scenes playing out in my head from this movie for days and i could hear the creepy piano, shit i can hear it right now just thinking about it. this isn't the kind of movie you forget about quickly. it sticks with you for a while. it makes you think. it makes you feel, which i feel like it adds to the soul or at least makes it better somehow. even though sometimes the thoughts are dark and the feeling are uncomfortable or un pleasant. but that's life, it's not all skittles and rainbows.
after watching this film, you realize that most of what they're feeding us these days is garbage, and is not good for the soul and makes us all a little dumber everytime we watch it.
Eyes Wide Shut, one of the great American pictures
Whoa I never heard the “you said it has necrophilia…” part that makes sense with the ritual and the girl that gets sacrificed in place of Tom. Wonder if that was actually filmed. I doubt it, most likely more implied like true detective did with the microwave scene and the ritual scene
This is one of my favorite movies of all-time. I've watched it too many times to count...and even though it's a long movie, each time I watch it, I dread the end/I don't want it to end. Great documentary!
Have you ever added up how much Dr. Bill spends in one night?
My sentiments exactly
Grossly underrated film which will be considered pure gold by the masses come 2099.
If any of you actually believe that this movie was about testing a couple, then please educate yourself.
^
Yep
What’s your take on it?
As many layers this movie might actually have, the most important one is the literal one you see happen on screen. The ruling class cults and satanic ritual depictions and human/child trafficking.
@@johndoe-fq7ez hollywood occult sex magick cult insight
I wonder what Kubrick be doing if he was alive.How many more movies he left without him making something.
Making movies woth underlining meanings😉
If her were still alive right now and had made movies at the same rate, he would probably be working on his second one since 1999
if he was alive now people would be calling him a p3do for making this movie and having “radical views” on the world
Eyes Wide Shut has greatness to it but I've never been able to bond with it. I strongly believe it to be an unfinished film despite all the claims that the version we have is EXACTLY what Stanley intended. I call bullshit and my proof is the post production work done on almost every single one of his films. Kubrick tinkered and fine tuned his films all the way up until release. Even then he would make major changes that has great impact on final product. Stanley didn't tie a bow on it so I can'r trust it.
From what I've gathered, those men in the toy store at the end take their little girl. Supposedly they cut the entire last 20 mins of the finished product.
@@kangeline4927 Good lord, why would they cut that out? That would make the ending so much more credible. Instead of some lame overlong explanation by Sydney Pollack in a pool room.
Kubrick was exposing something they didn't want out, but that's just my opionion. The filming was so secretive & there has to be a reason for that.
@@kangeline4927 Can you share your source for those 20 minutes missing scenes? I have been looking for a oficial source about them like crazy, but so far i could only find comments about them on TH-cam.
@@BULL.173 It wasn't Kubric that did it. It was those that felt that it revealed too much. Kunric died for that film and the last scene.
I like how Dr Bill pulls out
his med card when he needs someone to make an exception for him? The costume guy, the hotel concierge, etc?
As if the card gains Bill access.
that just showing you the entitlement he had. and he was low man on the totem pole for the majority of the movie. he was completely clueless and not self aware at all
I've seen it at least 10 times. I still don't know what Stanley's message is for this film.
Me neither!
😅
There is no message. (Just like there is no message in mona lisa or stairway to heaven).
It tells a story, and it shows the world and weird people in it. And a ton of hidden symbols, but theres no message. Its not supposed to teach you something. Its just art.
I think it is a dream within a dream. They never really wake up or "open their eyes". They are back at the start thinking some great experience (sex, desire, adventure, lust, power, material things) will save them but it doesn't.
@@freebee8221damn, terrible take
Tom and Nicole's scenes were fascinating- amazing that so many comment that this film was boring...😂 it is one of the most intriguing films of recent times. Yes, Nicole's character was cruel and Bill appeared to be naive. I don't think he was as clueless as he led on. He was confused and trying to figure things out. His life was focused on conventional mores which weren't as solid as he originally believed. His character had a quiet complexity, masking the simmering uncertainty he sensed.
Saw this for the first time a few weeks ago and my god was I speechless by the end credits. Automatically added to my small list of favorites.
Lol kubrick was like a total troll lol, he had tom cruise sitting there listening to his wife say all that crap, while he was sitting there filming it... I geuss now we know why Tom is a little bit crazy, Kubrick drove him insane...
Bro u missed the whole point.
@blah blah haha BASED
I agree. Kubrick played some serious mind games with Tom. For example, he put Nicole and the guy who played the naval officer in a room together for days and wouldn't allow Tom to know what was going on. It was designed to drive Tom a little crazy.
bruh, tom cruise had already been in scientology for ~a decade, he was already insane my guy. Maybe he picked Cruise for being in a cult?
if that’s what you got from this movie you’re needing a lot of knowledge
Director was killed for exposing the elite ritual!!
He died at home in his sleep.
@@Tolstoy111 yes killed athome during his sleep
@@mrunderrated2402 he was reaching for his oxygen. His wife was in bed with him. He lived in a closed off rural estate. Put down the crack pipe
What was in the scenes that he was forced to remove? Can/will they ever be released?
Rumours are that they are scenes involving ritual/sex with underage participants. There's said to be 20+ minutes of film that was meant to be included, but was exited out before release. The edited footage may well have been intentionally destroyed and there's no way to see it now.
@@montag4516 There's no such scene in the book, though, so, doubtful.
@@merelmerula9313 exactly, he included it post script approval. Why do you think he was literally forced to show the full cut to the executives first. This was a nod to the bohemian grove, epstein, child trafficking, Hollyweird and political perpetrators of such.
@@brettbaratheon9776 the fact that he died days after finishing the movie is odd. the same happened to the director of SALO who also showed similar content but more gruesome in his movies. possibly exposing the elite
@@sidology1.0 .. yea Salo… 🤢🤢🤢
I love my fiancé. We’ve been together almost 11 years but never would I ever work with him! Especially so intimately and during 20+ hours a day (sometimes)!
I mean, yeah it’s good they see you at your worst (stress out, exhausted, annoyed) and they still love you but not day in and day out for months like that. It’s not natural and I’m not surprised their relationship didn’t “thrive” during all this.
Fantastic movie though.
(Still debatable if it was ultimately worth it. I don’t believe in most divorce if kids are involved.)
11 years? Procrastinate much? Tell him to sh*t or get off the pot. You know why buy the cow milk free thang.
seems like maybe thats just your experience. i know for a fact theres couple who are around each other all day while running a business and I’d argue they “thrive” more than most
At the first party, he is called away from the two models to be a doctor and make sure a woman doesn't die of an overdose in the bathroom of his host.
He fled from the daughter of his dead patient when her fiance arrived, he walked away from Domino when his wife called, in both cases the official partner intervenes and the unofficial sex partner is gone.
Then he is kind of a rescue symbol for the young daughter of the shop owner, but nothing happens since he is leaving for the party.
At the party, a woman saves him. After this party, everything is closed for him, he never gets anywhere with anything.
In the end, the marriage has already failed, even though both Bill and Alice aren't going to admit it just yet.
Marriage is what people do when they think that their partner is the best they can do, through selection and interactions.
What marriage really is, is creating the environment for a family, a future generation, and doing what needs to be done, sacrificing what needs to be sacrificed, acting as if fidelity was the fact.
I am not sure if Kubrick meant to say that illusions are bad. I think he meant that we ought to be honest about our illusions and acknowledge them, lest they become deception and manipulation and hurt others.
@@soccom8341576um it cant be both?
I need to watch this a 2nd time but those scenes with Tom and Nicole talking was torture for me. If I directed this film I would have shown more scenes of them together doing or not doing daily things to get a sense of their marriage. Things got better in hour 2. The pool table scene with Tom and Sidney Pollack was the pinnacle of the movie and worth it to hang in there. Gave me real goosebumps.
The pool table scene between Tom & Sidney was the best scene of the entire movie for me.
@@dinab7852 correct. And the worst was Nicole laughing at her husband
Nicole's character is so annoying in this film. the way she talked and everything. ugh
Tom and Nicole's scenes were fascinating- amazing that so many comment that this film was boring...😂 it is one of the most intriguing films of recent times. Yes, Nicole's character was cruel and Bill appeared to be naive. I don't think he was as clueless as he led on. He was confused and trying to figure things out. His life was focused on conventional mores which weren't as solid as he originally believed. His character had a quiet complexity, masking the simmering uncertainty he sensed.
@@lizze490nooo not a copy/paster uggghhhh 😒
So disappointed about the comments... so disappointed... shows so many people are still naive..
Serious sex? What's that? What Alice was doing with the naval officer?
I loved your analysis of "Eyes Wide Shut"!
imagine the youtube rumor factory reconstructing this film with Woody Allen as lead
Schnitzler & Freud were friends. that figures.
was anyone ever in love with their fantasies as much as Freud? Alistair Crowley maybe.
Bill mixes up the two places the Party and the House in the last scene with Ziegler. "Was she the woman at the party? You called it a charade."
Those two ladies walking arm in arm with Dr. Bill were hawt.
The idea of Kubrick torturing Cruise & Kidman with take after take while they prostrate themselves before him, utterly subservient - this makes me smile
dude
Dude
@@mattgilbert7347 Dooood
@@mackychloe Sweet!
They were more than happy to do it. Kidman bared it all both physically and emotionally in ultimate vulnerability. Cruise was also willing to be vulnerable. This character was not the kick ass hero we usually see him play plus he was willing to be filmed at his true height. Especially the scene where he's being led to speak to Red Cloak. Sure Kubrick works you hard. But look at the results..I think most actors would be willing to sacrifice a year of brutal filming to have a masterpiece in the end.
I just noticed for the first time the lights over Sidney Pollack's pool table are illuminated pyramids
Lopez David Young David Taylor Matthew
Tom and Nicole scenes are the least interesting aspects of the film for me.
I thought Nicole and her character was very unlikable and Tom is not credible as a successful practicing NY doctor,
Notice how Dr Bill merely repeats in question form what some of the characters are saying to him?
Thanks man. This add more story about this masterpiece!
Ive heard it said that people take away from a movie what they bring to it. When i go to movies i bring my body and open mind. With all respect to stanley kubrick what i took away was just a truck load of confusion and never ending questions such as the most puzzeling scene in the movie the mask on the pillow. Just that one scene would have answered so many questions, but kubrick doesnt leave the movie goer with any answers at all. Ill have to admit seeing kidman completley nude in spiked heels did get my attention, but still expect more from kubricks movies than just a hard on and a lot of questions. I did watch the movie twice, opening scenes about twelve times.
You forgot to mention all the dreadful wooden acting. It’s a god awful movie. Excuse me - film. It was then, it is now. I’ve never seen a worse movie get such revisionist acclaim. I blame Scorsese. Before he opened his trap even the cinephiles that claim to love it now thought it sucked.
It's the physical embodiment of all 32 degrees of Scottish rite freemasonry in order in every aspect and attribute its astonishing truly.
I thought it was heavily implied that the secret society arranged for the mask to be placed on the pillow. They took out Nick the pianist, they took out the girl who sacrified herself in place of Bill, then as a threat they put the mask on Bill's pillow so as to say "we will take you out too if you spill the beans".
In my opinion the real confusion is: what the fuck is the ending scene supposed to mean and why did Bill's wife have a dream that mirrored his experience at the mansion
this movie is an enigma wrapped in a riddle. they will be analyzing this film for decades to come. he did leave a lot out for speculation, which means it can be interpreted any number of ways. for example i see the film as a tragedy. but like you said, you take away what you bring and maybe that's just my baggage. as far as the mask goes, i think she found it and put it on his pillow. i doubt someone would have been able to place it there without her knowing. speaking of alice, i see her as one of the principle villains of the film, again that could be my bag, but she does exhibit several red flags throughout the movie and her mindfuck dream cuck story is what set everything in motion to begin with. bill is the other villain.
stick to the
mcu. respectfully
he never cared for the actors or actresses .....he looked at them as if they were fake , and they were bringing real to his idea.....making the fake real....why his movies are the best ....he went for the art not the care .....the aesthetics of grand design like the 16th chapel , make it practical unlike now where they use aesthetics like wearing a hat backwards its only for look with the lack of practicality
Actors have always raved about working for him
Dies right after coming out of his editing room, not sus at all lol
The most important part is missing
I find what the wife and the brother in law say usually is useless.
i am confused by this movie
You have to see it twice. Haha. People watch it twenty times and still argue about it for years and years.
It shows the reality of the elite. It is freemasonry, which looks like just a VIP gentlemen’s club on the surface, but is a luciferian cult in reality.. ..and shockingly they still do human sacrifice (only on the absolute highest levels, so most lower members are not aware of this aspect) and child abuse. Watch the 60Minutes Australia interview with a girl who was taken hostage, abused and saw human sacrifice with her own eyes. She saw exactly these kind of dark ceremonies taking place in insanely rich castles.
@@stevenp6761 link?
@@stevenp6761 link?
@@stevenp6761 Link? 🙂
Amazing & Confusing
Jeffrey Epstein and Eyes Wide Shut Movie!!! (1999)
th-cam.com/video/twWt37Y-UhA/w-d-xo.html
Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell featuring from the beggining of the scene till Alice goes to the toilet!!!
Way toooooooo coincidential ain't it!!!
E.W.S. Is missing scenes!!
Well..he didn't survive...like..murder.
😐 he pissed off someone or many someones
Why do you think that they would murder him? I don’t doubt it at all.
They sure did murder him it's the Freemason that did its the story behind them
Jeffrey Epstein and Eyes Wide Shut Movie!!! (1999)
th-cam.com/video/twWt37Y-UhA/w-d-xo.html
Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell featuring from the beggining of the scene till Alice goes to the toilet!!!
Way toooooooo coincidential ain't it!!!
great clips !
The film just screamed irony for me which is what Stanley wanted. Nicole Kidman and Tom cruise. Go to the very same biblical messages.
huh?
Extremly interesting that Kubrick didn't wanna explain the meaning of things in the script..
He did this with every film he made
Ce film est incroyable !
I actually understand the film a lot better now, with what it was trying to say.
interesting documentary and analysis
Great job
👌🏽👌🏽
Happened not Happend
You need an "on-set instructor" to tell you how to ("pardon-my-french") Nicole Kidman? - one of the most gorgeous woman on the planet? :) ...what's the deal, Tom? - still trapped in South Park's closet with your "buddy" Travolta ? ...I guess everything is possible in that hollywood circus.
PS. It's all good, though. Finally "THEY TOOK RESPONSIBILITY", so the world is surely going to improve, now - we can all finally forget the sh*t that went down with Weinstein! ...riiiight...
Given the (false) allegations against Woody Allen, it’s probably better they didn’t go down that route.
Too bad the people who made this video are so terrible at it.
Dear god I would be stunned if you weren't just trolling.
Cluster mind fucking waste of time. That was my experience of the movie.
It's so beautifully made.
I agree with Mr. Torrence. There's just something gaping about this movie? It was screened for WB execs and prestige press, yes. But it still looks like it's all over the map. And/or it's like George Harrison's 'My Sweet Lord' being so similar to 'He's So Fine' - you'd think someone would say 'Uh, just a minute. Don't mean to be a buzz kill - BUT....' How does one say that to George, or to Stanley...? And I hate to say, I think Stan lost his mojo with Full Metal Jacket. The 6 he did through the 60's and 70's challenged the viewer, the studios, the genre, and just the basics of film and content. Whereas the 80's and 90's, I think Stan wanted to 'compete'. To do a better war movie, to look into WWII, to go beyond HAL9000. And sadly he was getting beaten at every turn. And to me, Eyes Wide Shut was a high end, star studded, upscale version of Deep Throat 'masquerading' as something shocking and perverse. I would've loved to ask Stan what he thought of Midnight Cowboy being the first X rated film to win an Oscar, the sudden success of Deep Throat as almost mainstream entertainment, and is there any validity to an amateur film like Pink Flamingos? I'm sure Stan would've been aware of all these movies, and probably fascinated how he could work it into one of his own films and not 'sell out' or overtly obvious about it. And Eyes Wide Shut is that, and none of it. Saucy Ziegler - but how saucy? Marion's deep love for Dr. Bill - or was she just in shock and depression? Domino - a whore on her first night out? Sleazy Milich - but just how sleazy exactly? And then the orgy - which could've a Tuesday night at Rick James house. This big carrot Stan dangled in front of us all, and does absolutely NOTHING! Complacent couple, honesty leads to jealousy. Jealousy leads to promiscuity. Promiscuity leads to sympathy and denial. And he is forced to be honest at the end - and she's okay with it...? Give me a BREAK! The final word says it all. It's what we all came to see. And I'd rather see the tits in Monty Pythons Meaning Of Life than this drawn out drivel of Stan's. How I wished I could've arrived on set 5 months into shooting of EWS and say 'Uh Stan, could you wait a minute...?'
It's a cheap generic instead of the real thing.
At the first party, he is called away from the two models to be a doctor and make sure a woman doesn't die of an overdose in the bathroom of his host.
He fled from the daughter of his dead patient when her fiance arrived, he walked away from Domino when his wife called, in both cases the official partner intervenes and the unofficial sex partner is gone.
Then he is kind of a rescue symbol for the young daughter of the shop owner, but nothing happens since he is leaving for the party.
At the party, a woman saves him. After this party, everything is closed for him, he never gets anywhere with anything.
In the end, the marriage has already failed, even though both Bill and Alice aren't going to admit it just yet.
Interesting observations. But it's that last ambiguous word Alice says - that to me insinuated a longer lasting bond between them? Maybe that's a male perspective, or just me? As both were ready to give up everything, over some glance and attraction to someone - but didn't. In Alice's case though, that sounded like pure love when she saw the sailor. Bill's case was happen chance and jealousy. Until the mystery woman/Mandy sacrificed herself for him, did he feel any sense of love. And if she hadn't died - or was to be seen again, would he have sacrificed his marriage for her? And like Alice said when the sailor left "and I was relieved..." That was the sense I got from Bill in the morgue. Grateful that she was dead, but maybe the real mystery woman is still out there? And Alice with her sailor - maybe still out there, or dead now by combat or something he had to sacrifice himself for?
@@DungeonStudio
It's about destroying the trust in each other, it's about the effects on a sexual relationship, if there's that basic trust in being true to each other, is gone.
What's the meaning of being true to someone?! It's obvious that the meaning is, for me, you are not just a body.
A mere object for my own pleasure. You are a thousand times more important than just your body!!!
Love is impossible if you see each other as bodies alone.
In the scene where Alice is irritated by the attempt to seduce her by a stranger, she is not in the power struggle against a husband anymore. She feels free to leave the expectations of society behind and step out into the unknown, not knowing what this might mean for her daughter.
She is seduced by destructive forces that lead to a path of losing everything she has, even the love of her husband and child.
For mere pleasure?!
Oh no, sex and money are the two most powerful ways to gain influence on someone else.
To change someone's actions because of money, or the promise of money.
Or to change someone's actions because of sex, or the promise of sex.
What nobody seems to realize is that both Bill and Alice are walking down a path of destruction.
A path of being seduced to do and say destructive things to each other.
To go down a path of losing everything they believed in, at the beginning of the movie.
Their marriage seemed safe, but they are seduced to go astray.
It doesn't matter if it's only in their dreams. It's a inner reality that very much effects their very own respective private lives!!!
It's a tale of betrayal, of destruction, of the effects on everyone when money and power and sex are involved to make someone do things and say things that are against their own moral convictions.
That's the seduction of evil, that's the way both of them are possessed by the forces they never acknowledged in this movie. They never tried to save themselves from the evil influence of others.
They are like children in a fairytale, they play along until it's too late!!! What Stanley Kubrick was showing us is the way people are made to follow the powerful ones.
Until they can't resist those destructive, evil forces. Until they are victims of the destructive power behind all of the harsh reality of the powerful ones.
Telling us that it's not us who possess our own bodies!!
It's them. They can do what they want with our bodies. They can make us dress, shave, have beards and hairdos that they want us to choose.
They can make us dye our own hair and eat or drink what they want, what they show us in advertisements.
They can make us use each other just as bodies. As flesh alone. Just for sex and physical attraction. To be disposed of afterwards whenever we feel like it.
That's the powerful message of this movie, that it works. It works with us, and it was shown to us how it works with Bill and Alice.
They treat each other just as bodies in the last scene. They feel like there's only carnal desires left. They have finally reached the end of the rainbow. Where there's nothing else but bodies and your own gratification, nothing else anymore. No love, no trust, not even responsibilities anymore.
Their child walks away, follows the two strange men that were following Bill and Alice.
It's obvious that they are about to let their daughter be a future female member of such parties.
The whole family is destroyed by destructive, evil forces.
And Bill and Alice treat each other as bodies. Just like their own daughter will be treated in the future. Just as the other beautiful girls, as mere bodies, like sheep. Like the sheep to be slaughtered.
That's the truth in this movie, and there was a huge fight with the company, and he refused to cut the movie. And a few days later, he was dead. What a coincidence. That's what happens to bodies, when they are no longer useful, like in the movie he was courageous enough to make. They cut the most dangerous scenes out and made it a success. It's about the money. And about the bodies. The bodies that are used to make some people richer. And to keep the sheep happy and full of trust. It's necessary to use beautiful decorations to hide the harsh truth. The truth is, we are the happy sheep. And like puppets on a string, we act like Bill and Alice if we have the chance. And we're not even aware that it's our own identity we give away, our own belief system, our own moral attitudes, our own credibility, until it's too late and the evil forces have ruled over us as they wish.
@@DungeonStudio to answer all your questions: Alice said that they should be grateful for having survived their adventures. Telling him very clearly that they must submit themselves under the rules and regulations of the game. Submit themselves under the order and command of the powerful ones that request to get access to their only child.
It's obvious that Alice knows a lot more about the people who are involved than Bill does. In hinting on sex, she handles him to forget to look after their daughter, and makes it easier for the two men to get away with her, without Bill realizing that he was distracted and manipulated by the promise of future sex.
That's the answer to the first question.
@@DungeonStudio They were never both ready to give up everything. Just Alice. It's a power shift in the relationship. It's been under his radar for the whole past that she's not that much into him. Also, she might be just playing with him, after being at the party, having been approached by the older guy.
It's obvious that Alice asked him if he knew anyone present at Victor's party, because she knows some people at the party, but they wouldn't approach her there. In the way she treats her husband throughout the film, she tries to destroy his self-confidence, she tries to destroy their trust in each other, she tries to unsettle him deeply. It's a sign that she is part of the whole game, and that he is played.
She's part of the girls who appear as objects of desire among the masked powerful ones of the second party. It's this memory that makes her flee from him at the first party with a lie as an excuse, and start to drink in a very bad and desperate mood.
It's because of constant interruptions that Bill doesn't get anywhere before showing up at the second party. It's not his choice, he is haunted by the requirements of his profession and his personal life. At the same time, she isn't in love, it has nothing to do with love, when she refers to the sailor. It's pure attraction, it's just a spur of the moment, just pure desire.
At the same time it is supposed to show, just like the kiss from the daughter of his dead patient, that women are just like men, if only the circumstances enable them to do so. It's obvious that Stanley Kubrick shows his personal opinion that the difference between men and women isn't in their instincts or their desire, it's about convention and convenience more than anything else. It's also true for the words the older guy uses in his conversation with Alice. He talks about the way society works, and that intelligent women must make sure to find a wealthy man to marry before they are allowed to be free to do as they please, and maybe ruin his life by divorcing him with a child, especially in a case like Bill and Alice, with her having no personal income.
It's obvious that Bill wandering around the streets of New York is a metaphor for men walking through their lives, with a career in mind and finding out that they are victims, as soon as they sign a contract, that is called marriage. Because it's not about love, it's about money and rights, especially when the next generation is involved.
Bill is the reason why his daughter is abducted by the two men in the final scene, and Alice knows it, but he, like always, doesn't have a clue!!!
4:58 he pick Nicole and curse
Curse for syntolgie
And kidmann
Because of her that
Lessen what fiona barnett saying
Sooo
What kidmann do and her daughter 👌
So u know why he pick them
Because he do shit like
Them
What fiona barnett say is so crazy
And stand for the movie