After retirement from the FDNY, I became a flight attendant for Jetblue and was fortunate enough to meet many former military pilots and aviators . Respect for what you guys did and do on a daily basis.
"Blame and punish" was the culture of the Navy's nuclear propulsion program where I served my first four years. After commissioning, it was refreshing to enter the Naval aviation field with its culture of continuous improvement. I was just a nerdy EP-3E NFO, but I got to do a tour at NSAWC from '98-'01 and fly a flight or two with Jell-O and Bru. Thanks for the great show!
This episode is particulary good and of great value with it's lessons. Easy to see with such nice, relaxed and experienced people talking about what they know. Thanks again for it, "Jell-o"! Best regards from Portugal.
KUDOS! The “Fighter Pilot Best Practices” is a must-listen for anyone seeking excellence, discipline, and operational efficiency. Whether you’re soaring through the skies or navigating corporate boardrooms, these practices will elevate your game.
Sierra Hotel! Excellent discussion with real-world, expert practitioners. Applicable to all HROs (High Reliability Organizations) and especially to those organizations that are striving to be HROs. HROs are fully aware that they are never “there” they are always actively working to improve…think the debrief. Thanks for explaining checklists…I’d view checklists as a fundamental technology for HROs (sociotechnical systems). You nailed it, “The process based culture.” Superb!
I did daily check lists and logs with compressors and always ran into having issues of new hires not understanding the severity of check lists and logs. I’d give them two warnings before termination.
Something that wasn’t really covered was involvement with the shop floor level (in industry). They are the experts, if you don’t involve them and get their buy in, work to make their jobs easier and safer (and they have something to gain), then it’s window dressing.
Pro’s from Dover is from the movie MASH. Hawkeye and Trapper are playing golf when they’re co-opted into performing surgery on a VIP. So they turn up and Hawkeye says, ‘We’re the Pros’s from Dover, we’re gonna crack this kids chest and be on the links by three’ Poacher out.
if you make checklist fool proof you dont need profesionals to do their job, just someone who can read. And as a general once said when the bullets start flying the rulew are just a suggestion.
So hey, sorry to go off-topic, but I thought y'all might be the only people on TH-cam able to give an educated explanation of this. th-cam.com/video/rmMclP8dlI0/w-d-xo.html In the video linked above, at some point, Justin Bronk. an analyst with RUSI who seems to know what he's talking about, discusses 2-ship and 4-ship doctrine/tactics. And he notes while the Russians might FLY 4 aircraft at the same time, they'll work in a 2x2-ship style, rather than proper 4-ship. I have NO idea what any of this means and I thought this may provide you with an idea for content, if you're willing/able to tackle the subject.
Why do you have to discuss military techniques. Isn’t this confidential information? Our adversaries are watching this video. I’ve heard that our current military personnel don’t like this type of posting. I wish Fighter Pilot podcast should follow protocols that does not discuss some of the topics that are confidential information.
In the past, I've had similar thoughts about some content I've watched. But keep in mind more stuff than you probably realize is public information. Like various manuals with tactics, etc are available online or on Amazon, for example.
@@FighterPilotPodcast I wonder why current members of a fighter squadron expressed their views about my previous statement. Must be something they don’t agree. I’m just listening.
What they discuss isn’t classified, it’s public information. Most of them are concept applied everywhere in the aviation industry, not only military, but plenty of aerospace firms and airlines. SOPs, brief/debrief, sim training for emergencies, crm, checklists, and so on. It is a set of common practices that make the working environment safe and professional, whether you are carrying cargo, passengers or weapon systems. You would normally recognize how good/bad an airline or flight school is,, (or even an air force, had students from some not-so-good air forces who performed poorly), by looking at how all these practices are implemented.
All these concepts are widely available, also in business context. Easy to get info and understand but hard to implement. And being able to live up to theories heard or read, is the key both in a squadron and in any team. It takes effort and time to forge a culture that naturally embraces them. Cheers Vincent, Georg ;)
After retirement from the FDNY, I became a flight attendant for Jetblue and was fortunate enough to meet many former military pilots and aviators .
Respect for what you guys did and do on a daily basis.
"Blame and punish" was the culture of the Navy's nuclear propulsion program where I served my first four years. After commissioning, it was refreshing to enter the Naval aviation field with its culture of continuous improvement.
I was just a nerdy EP-3E NFO, but I got to do a tour at NSAWC from '98-'01 and fly a flight or two with Jell-O and Bru.
Thanks for the great show!
Ix that you, Polter?!
@@FighterPilotPodcast Yup, living the dream up on Whidbey Island, 16 years into Navy retirement.
@@timgeist1450 well played!
This episode is particulary good and of great value with it's lessons. Easy to see with such nice, relaxed and experienced people talking about what they know. Thanks again for it, "Jell-o"! Best regards from Portugal.
You’re welcome!
KUDOS! The “Fighter Pilot Best Practices” is a must-listen for anyone seeking excellence, discipline, and operational efficiency. Whether you’re soaring through the skies or navigating corporate boardrooms, these practices will elevate your game.
Sierra Hotel! Excellent discussion with real-world, expert practitioners. Applicable to all HROs (High Reliability Organizations) and especially to those organizations that are striving to be HROs. HROs are fully aware that they are never “there” they are always actively working to improve…think the debrief. Thanks for explaining checklists…I’d view checklists as a fundamental technology for HROs (sociotechnical systems). You nailed it, “The process based culture.” Superb!
Thank you!
I did daily check lists and logs with compressors and always ran into having issues of new hires not understanding the severity of check lists and logs. I’d give them two warnings before termination.
Best practices are a must along with continual improvement. Great show! Fly Navy! ⚓✈️⚓💪. Beers to you! 🍺🍻
Great talk! Heroyam Slava, Yarko!
Great Show 📝
Thanks. 😊
Something that wasn’t really covered was involvement with the shop floor level (in industry).
They are the experts, if you don’t involve them and get their buy in, work to make their jobs easier and safer (and they have something to gain), then it’s window dressing.
Outstanding discussion!
Outstanding. Thank you.
Interesting, using combat best practices and applying those processes for non-combat situations. .
Another great one Jell-O!
🙏
"the pro's from dover..." 1:30:56 good reference
Best episode ever
Highly recommended reading: “The Checklist Manifesto” by Atul Gawande.
Pro’s from Dover is from the movie MASH. Hawkeye and Trapper are playing golf when they’re co-opted into performing surgery on a VIP. So they turn up and Hawkeye says, ‘We’re the Pros’s from Dover, we’re gonna crack this kids chest and be on the links by three’
Poacher out.
Aha!
Awesome
if you make checklist fool proof you dont need profesionals to do their job, just someone who can read. And as a general once said when the bullets start flying the rulew are just a suggestion.
So hey, sorry to go off-topic, but I thought y'all might be the only people on TH-cam able to give an educated explanation of this.
th-cam.com/video/rmMclP8dlI0/w-d-xo.html
In the video linked above, at some point, Justin Bronk. an analyst with RUSI who seems to know what he's talking about, discusses 2-ship and 4-ship doctrine/tactics. And he notes while the Russians might FLY 4 aircraft at the same time, they'll work in a 2x2-ship style, rather than proper 4-ship. I have NO idea what any of this means and I thought this may provide you with an idea for content, if you're willing/able to tackle the subject.
😀 'promo sm'
😇😇😇totally awesome podcast😇😇😇.can we pls upgrade beard to 👹sabortooth👹style (xmen origins) & make 🇺🇲America great again. 😊Thx😊
man, if that was all it took than I'm all for it.
Why do you have to discuss military techniques. Isn’t this confidential information? Our adversaries are watching this video. I’ve heard that our current military personnel don’t like this type of posting. I wish Fighter Pilot podcast should follow protocols that does not discuss some of the topics that are confidential information.
Nothing mentioned in this episode, or any of our shows, is classified.
In the past, I've had similar
thoughts about some content I've watched. But keep in mind more stuff than you probably realize is public information. Like various manuals with tactics, etc are available online or on Amazon, for example.
@@FighterPilotPodcast I wonder why current members of a fighter squadron expressed their views about my previous statement. Must be something they don’t agree. I’m just listening.
What they discuss isn’t classified, it’s public information. Most of them are concept applied everywhere in the aviation industry, not only military, but plenty of aerospace firms and airlines. SOPs, brief/debrief, sim training for emergencies, crm, checklists, and so on. It is a set of common practices that make the working environment safe and professional, whether you are carrying cargo, passengers or weapon systems. You would normally recognize how good/bad an airline or flight school is,, (or even an air force, had students from some not-so-good air forces who performed poorly), by looking at how all these practices are implemented.
All these concepts are widely available, also in business context.
Easy to get info and understand but hard to implement. And being able to live up to theories heard or read, is the key both in a squadron and in any team. It takes effort and time to forge a culture that naturally embraces them.
Cheers Vincent, Georg ;)