apologies for the longer video, I just had alot to talk about on this topic. I've personally had a really bad experience with machinima and I know many others who have aswell i'm making this video to voice peoples opinions on how broken machinima is send me fanart and x-rated fanfiction ►twitter.com/pyrocynical
Honest advice from youtubers, don't join any networks that have Lock-in contracts. A lot of networks will take advantage of you because you're a small youtuber that doesn't know any better. These networks will scam the shit out of you. Don't take this advice lightly! Find a good network and research it before you join. Words of truth pyro man, keep it up.
Well, it's the end of an era. Machinima has completely wiped all the videos from their channel. Despite their shitty business practices, Machinima was still a pioneer in TH-cam's early days and had some of the best videos. So many classic videos, gone...
A few TH-camrs saved their videos like Nerdcubed and a few other videos got archived but yes most are completely wiped. although weirdly they still exist someone at Nerdcubed said that Machinima still exist and still provided their services to them.
I remember, as a young lad, I dreamt of being partnered with Machinima when I was planning on making a TH-cam channel, but, now I realize my decision of not driving that dream into the point of no return was the godsend of decisions I could've made.
Damn lol. I almost signed a contract with them recently. O_o To be fair though, it was with a subnetwork, but still. Unbelivable that stuff like this can even happen. :/
Thank God people call out Machinima. My dad has started a TH-cam channel and it's pretty much dead tbh, and I know he'd consider jumping onto the chance for promotion and stuff like that, and I've just been worried Machinima would approach us (sometimes I'm on the channel as well in the videos) with a BS contract. It'd be wonderful if Machinima never found us but if they ever did I know what to tell my dad. Thanks to Pyro and anyone else who has called out this scam! (Idk anyone else who has been scammed besides Pyro and Leafy so--)
Well I feel bad for you. I barely have any subscribers and I only have 1 cringey video compare to your 5000 subscribers if my account would be taken and if I have 1k subscribers I would literal destroy my phone and computer Oh I don't have subs
Minecraft is masterpiece it’s just that the fanbase is pretty bad. On the other hand, most call of duty games (especially the newer ones) are all carbon copies,of each other, and the COD fanbase is awful.
Sounds like my experience with foster care. Always another hoop to jump through if you want to actually have any influence in your case, with you probably changing caseworkers every few months, being promised transportation to important court cases, then them just never showing up.
(In response to like if you would kick machinima in the nuts) I wouldn't just kill them in the nuts, I would give them complete immortality, kick their head off, then kick their head into the sun.
Oh hello man I did I was wondering if you could dink some bullies for me I'm a freshman and seniors are raping me but they're not guys and idk why they do pls help mate
"Sweatshop mentality" never ceased to exist in entertainment industry. The recent Nijisanji drama is the most trending example of how much of a sweatshop Nijisanji is. The fact that Pyro also talked about it unlocked a certain Machinima PTSD that the TH-camrs had in 2000s 💀💀💀
Thanks for the heads up Pyro, was actually thinking of joining them next year: thinking I will get better exposure and support.. Well that dream is broken lol!! :D
+Backtoast the outstanding Citizen Dont care bout the whole views side of it :-P more so exposure and support :L thanks for trying to make a joke though about my channel m9
Good lord. i just feel bad for Sanity Not Included and Lyle McDouchebag. They were my favorite channel and all i watched for the longest time and i cant even begin to imagine how machinima must've shafted them.
I would say most people joined Machinima because back in the day (2009-2012) they were pretty good, their partners actually worked with them and they were a LOT smaller. Oh well, RIP Machinima 2K19
Now they deleted all of their content. The only videos that you can see on their channel are not their videos. Machinima is officially dead at this point.
Never EVER, do partnership. I'm not religious but I swear Its the spawn of the devil. jokes aside, you're practically signing up to work for people for below the average minimum wage.
7 years now. It's been 7 years since Machinima was caught in this controversy. Despite their bad business practices, I can't deny that they were truly one of the pioneering networking organizations (back when you pretty much needed a network to be seen lmfao, especially gaming channels) for TH-cam and gave alot of people careers, some of which still are around and have alot of deserving success.
nightrale814 Not really no. They used to post a lot of funny shit back in the day. Some of it was cringy but most of the shit was funny. But after 2012, that’s when Machinina went to shit.
George Martin because it’s fair use, he can’t complain because he was given a contract about everything that could happen and it wasn’t in their control
here's how you get out of Machinima: •Buy 12 gauge •Go to Machinima HQ •take your rep to the shooting range, have a bonding moment and discuss negotiations peacefully
+Taco Tuesday The contract is directed to the individual that owns the channel, not the channel itself. An account is merely a product, so it doesn't matter where the videos are being posted.
+Caesar Augustus As stated in Machinima's terms of use, they claim no ownership on submitted content, however they have AND I QUOTE: "perpetual, irrevocable, non-terminable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to use, copy, distribute, publicly perform, display , modify, create derivative works, and sublicense..." i.e. You can remove them, but whilst you are under binding contract, it would do fuck all.
+Itz Blaziken Get it right! Thats Gabe Newells unsucessful brother that bitches at Gabe Newell saying "Valve was my idea!" "Steam was my idea!" "He stole it for me!" While he drink beer on a beanbag chair with a tank top with red eyes. Holy fuck that got deep.
I have been partner with Machinima for a bit over a year now, and I really regret signing a contract with them. I heard you said you were allowed to leave their partnership before three years time. Any tips for me to do the same?! I really need some help :( - Thanks
I just realized Pyrocynical isn't forcing his deeper voice in this. And this is 4 years ago, before he showed his face and before he stopped forcing that voice
when you realise pyro killed you 3 years ago in call of duty blackops 3...
RIP
ZAYAN H lmao
Ikr
cant relate 😎😎
ZAYAN H late on this but ikr, I’m so trash at COD 3
*This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Machinima Inc.*
Sorry about that.
are you googel
the searchy
can you get it back
im on my daughters account
GreyIsQueer AndTheirHere no I am not the google
I remember when I was first on TH-cam how they nearly owned TH-cam
Yeahhhh and like all the major youtubers (or at least the ones I watched) were partnered with them
Yeah like ChimneySwift
it's very vague but me too
Same. The 2008-2012 era I would say, maybe not even that long
The creatures
It's crazy back in the day they were the #1 network
TheCanadianRocket Ikr. Now, with their issues and the rise of new networks, I would be somewhat surprised that they'll fold their offices.
TheCanadianRocket ahhh the 2009 days
TheCanadianRocket yea you used to see machinamas outro in basicly every video
Now they’re nowhere to be seen
gross
1 year left, i pray.
Dat me on da beat
Good luck.
+pokeaimMD wow didn't expect to see you here blunder
FREE HIM
+pokeaimMD I remember seeing you on leafy dad's video. neat luck, lad.
You could have sued them on "Fraud by false representation"
+#BattlefieldWON Oh yes use the American strategy
I mean technically I don't believe he can, he signed the contract agreeing to what they did
***** I don't even remember why I made this comment so fuck it I'll say circle
TRIANGLE
octagon.
apologies for the longer video, I just had alot to talk about on this topic.
I've personally had a really bad experience with machinima and I know many others who have aswell i'm making this video to voice peoples opinions on how broken machinima is
send me fanart and x-rated fanfiction ►twitter.com/pyrocynical
😩👌🏼🐺
Piss
first to like and post... oh wait nobody fucking cares m8.
+Pyrocynical nigga i want longer videos i dont care if you ramble for 1200 years i love it
Hey Pyro you should play with Chocolate Biscuits more
This video showed up before Machinima's channel when I searched "Machinima". Love it.
Sunnyv2
Same
Honest advice from youtubers, don't join any networks that have Lock-in contracts. A lot of networks will take advantage of you because you're a small youtuber that doesn't know any better. These networks will scam the shit out of you. Don't take this advice lightly! Find a good network and research it before you join. Words of truth pyro man, keep it up.
I can comfirm that. Videogamedunkey fell through that too.
+The Lich King Oh, the irony.
is hidden block or normal boots ok
+Dan Man10 Gaming Yeah but if you're asking because you wanna join they're not going to accept you.
i know that but i dont want jon to look like a dick
I’m supposed to be making youtube videos but this one partner keeps stealing my money.
guys, it's not thelegend27 or machinima27 it's pyrocynical27
I hear machinima27 took out a whole army in one blow
Ralph Wiggum
Yeah it's the Deadmeme27.
Robthegr81 it's the pyromeme27
It’s like group projects. You’re the only one doing anything and they’re benefitting!
2 years left boys... ;(
For what
+This Spookwagen Is a Spy oh okey
This Spookwagen Is a Spy si
Hang in there dude
rip
Well, it's the end of an era. Machinima has completely wiped all the videos from their channel.
Despite their shitty business practices, Machinima was still a pioneer in TH-cam's early days and had some of the best videos. So many classic videos, gone...
Lowkey.
Tis a shame. But a necessary one.
A few TH-camrs saved their videos like Nerdcubed and a few other videos got archived but yes most are completely wiped. although weirdly they still exist someone at Nerdcubed said that Machinima still exist and still provided their services to them.
hope they went bankrupt
Rip battlefield friends
I want a 3 year Machinima contract for Chrimbus.
And a small loan of a million dollars!
+The Hoax Hotel Just ask Winterman
Who wouldnt
+The Hoax Hotel what am I gonna get?
Trimmin' the chrimbus bush, waiting for wintermannnnnn!!!!
207 Machinima employees disliked this video.
make that 217
218 now.
220
they probably dont even have that many employees
296
I don't why, but I love the way you say Machinima ^.^
Good name, bullshit company
oh hey I found you here
gasp
dont give a fuck m8
Also saying "length"... damn UK accents...
I remember, as a young lad, I dreamt of being partnered with Machinima when I was planning on making a TH-cam channel, but, now I realize my decision of not driving that dream into the point of no return was the godsend of decisions I could've made.
Damn lol. I almost signed a contract with them recently. O_o To be fair though, it was with a subnetwork, but still. Unbelivable that stuff like this can even happen. :/
You dodges a bullet there
Dodged
I guess so.
i have a contract its only like a sentence. You get x3 of the paying.
Oh m8 gehab u watch pyrocinical too? Noice! Love ur content too bruh ;)
I've been trying to get out for 3 years now they redid my contract even though I said not to twice and won't even show me my contract
sue them
im shure thear is illigal doings thear.
+Debitfett in english ?
This is illegal business Machinima is doing right now then
If I reach 100,000 subs ill hire a laywer to try to get me out if i cant get in contact with them to let me out
I’m a time traveller from 2939, the world has been destroyed, he never made petscop 2
dont do us like this mate
Prove it, bitch.
No no it can't be
S E E M S L E G I T
Machinama is gone
*Crab Rave intensifies*
Not going to like this since it's on 169
Should have sued them for Fraud and Breach of Contract as they didn't help you grow how they promised.
Nic Wilson Bruh... machinima’s dead
@@mikencel this comment was made three years ago.
That awkward moment when the guy that helped you get out of machinima watches this vid
Edit: No, I'm not him.
n RealKC wait, you're him?
R u him
Are u him
Are u him
Are u him
+Pyrocynical thank you, this was very useful, and informative. :)
Donk
Weed
+Averagebaters i remember comments being like this
@@fishingrod2253 How did you then join 8 months ago? New account?
@@IngiR08 yeah, i forgot the password of my old account.
Pftt, More like maSHITima
Hagotem
Steven Derp Chris Oshaquell got this joke.
Ey lmao
You play geometry dash
That's good
Thank God people call out Machinima. My dad has started a TH-cam channel and it's pretty much dead tbh, and I know he'd consider jumping onto the chance for promotion and stuff like that, and I've just been worried Machinima would approach us (sometimes I'm on the channel as well in the videos) with a BS contract. It'd be wonderful if Machinima never found us but if they ever did I know what to tell my dad. Thanks to Pyro and anyone else who has called out this scam! (Idk anyone else who has been scammed besides Pyro and Leafy so--)
Your... Dad.
+Wood Sex facts :)
I would love to see some of his videos if that's an option
+Andrew the Potato King
He makes gaming vids, mostly Yugioh. His channel is GameScapeNetwork
+Muhammad Ahsan Thanks! He'll be happy to hear!!
I actually like these videos more than the montages he made
me too
+Dominic Iorio same
Same
same
+Yo0an same
If you reject machinima, do they harass you to join them?
i think so actually
Just like SJW's!
probably, just insult them until they stop responding.
Shouldnt You Be On A Mission Snake?
+5nak3 3at3r but your snake too how does that work 😂
i was ruined by machinima.. i eventually shut down my channel
@Red Crown wow, thats pretty sad.
@Red Crown what's the name of your channel
Well I feel bad for you. I barely have any subscribers and I only have 1 cringey video compare to your 5000 subscribers if my account would be taken and if I have 1k subscribers I would literal destroy my phone and computer
Oh I don't have subs
@Red Crown damn
Wasn’t jt music with machinima?
Thats why you should always be GabeN's partner
Sex partner?
Okay here is the deal: I give you me wallet and you give me sales
I passed a knife and two stat trak pinks and got a ft purple
Senpai take my wallet it has 20$s, 100$s, 50$s, take it senpai!
+Ruben Martinez no you didn't
The only machinima vids i liked were sonic for hire
+panelgazer - gaming channel In the intro it said machinima so yea i guess
Arby N The Chief for me.
Sanity Not Included, Sonic for Hire, and the rest of the random halo skits like "Not enough sand"
machinima respawn inbox
sonic for hire was pretty funny
Like for club penguin gameplay in the next video
Ummmm about that
I love that little laugh when he commented about playing Minecraft back in the day. Acting like Call of Duty is any better lol
It is tho
BlakeTruvious 07 bo3 had the best zombies out of any cod game.
Minecraft is masterpiece it’s just that the fanbase is pretty bad. On the other hand, most call of duty games (especially the newer ones) are all carbon copies,of each other, and the COD fanbase is awful.
@@ashleylea8843 cod is ass minecraft is way better
@radu_radu_radu I’m sorry, but mine craft is way better in every way.
Talk about PornHub having a fundraiser to create the first porn in space !!
I second this
I donated today, sounds like a great idea.
Charmander The Boss mhm saw an add for it while doing my business
+Mumu in 3D PornHub is doing stuff Machinima can't do, appeal to their audiences.
That'd be really cold.
87 machinima employees disliked this video
+FAZEDIE56 True XD
235
If you go search machinima right now in TH-cam this is what you find second on the list. The second being Machinima': account
Sounds like my experience with foster care. Always another hoop to jump through if you want to actually have any influence in your case, with you probably changing caseworkers every few months, being promised transportation to important court cases, then them just never showing up.
Your in foster care to?😭
who is your network?
+Xerophyte k
+iPaint omnia media, and honestly the only partner I've been with that's actually been supportive so far
+Pyrocynical hey pyrocynical how do I sign with omnia?
(In response to like if you would kick machinima in the nuts) I wouldn't just kill them in the nuts, I would give them complete immortality, kick their head off, then kick their head into the sun.
+Xerophyte Reported.
Minecraft video channel link plox
+Boogatah what?
+Boogatah get cancer
+Boogatah How do you eat cheesecake exactly? Humans usually are not that easy to eat with all the bones and stuff.
+Boogatah get laid m9
+Boogatah Like Cheesecake
I like this guy.... he explained exactly who and what Machinima are and do! Good job!
If I were to EVER join Machinima, I would triple-check the contract to find NO LOOPHOLES about my rights with them
DID SOMEBODY RING THE DINKSTER?!
Oh hello man I did I was wondering if you could dink some bullies for me I'm a freshman and seniors are raping me but they're not guys and idk why they do pls help mate
I LOVE BABIES!
+DentraTheDankster if they are females why the fuck do you say no
Maybe they are land-whales?
Frozy FX bc they're mean when they rape me and have weird fetishes
His intro still has beachwalk in it :(
The last reminder
Garrett Metting No it’s not, any video with an intro still has Beachwalk
@@pathetic_girl It's weird as well, that the ones with the Zen. Remix of Beachwalk outros of him is still there.
@@AaronKaiMCDNLD those still get claimed too so it’s weird
This was the first Pyrocynical video I watched
I’m here again after happening to remember this fact.
...and now in 2019, machimia inc. Is gone, they crashed.
This was made before Keemstar's midlife crisis. Obviously, considering how Pyro more or less thanks Keemstar for helping his friend.
few year back machinima all over youtube side panel. got back you tube don't see em anymore..well yeah...
*talks about cancer company
*uses haymaker in bo3
yes
0:32 Did Pyro just tell us to go protest in the streets? That didn't age well.
bruh XD
A SLIGHT THING THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CURRENT EVENTS?!??!? WHAT A COINCIDENCE!!! THIS MAN HAS TRAVELED TO THE FUTURE OMG!!!!!!!
@@ladofthedamned7796 ok boomer
@@juliaaaa6804 Wow dude you got the whole squad laughing bro you really got it bro!
@@ladofthedamned7796 u gae
SOMEBODY RING THE DINKSTER? Watch my latest vid
+InsanePanda10 GOD NO
>:)
InsanePanda10 my eyes need bleach
Elliott Owsley GOOD
+InsanePanda10 RE-POR-TED.
Woah, a pre Keemstar drama video. Cool.
Woah, a pre corona virus world pandemic comment. Cool
5 Years ago, today.
3 years later....”what is machinima?”
Sounds a lot like the problems that InsideGaming had with Machinima, before they moved to RoosterTeeth and became Funhaus
I went too deep in my recommended list and found this oldie
"Sweatshop mentality" never ceased to exist in entertainment industry. The recent Nijisanji drama is the most trending example of how much of a sweatshop Nijisanji is. The fact that Pyro also talked about it unlocked a certain Machinima PTSD that the TH-camrs had in 2000s 💀💀💀
Thanks for the heads up Pyro, was actually thinking of joining them next year: thinking I will get better exposure and support.. Well that dream is broken lol!! :D
16 views. you will get focking rich
+Backtoast the outstanding Citizen Dont care bout the whole views side of it :-P more so exposure and support :L thanks for trying to make a joke though about my channel m9
I was not trying to offend you. Sorry if it came like this.
+Backtoast the outstanding Citizen you didn't dude :-) no worries :-P
Aight, good to know.
*hear's music in the background*
Okay, now you're a Leafy clone.
3 years ago...
everything in the intro
csgo gameplay
undertale music
machinma
what is this, a crossover episode?
lol this isn’t csgo gameplay
half a decade later, and Machinima doesn't exist anymore
Good lord. i just feel bad for Sanity Not Included and Lyle McDouchebag. They were my favorite channel and all i watched for the longest time and i cant even begin to imagine how machinima must've shafted them.
I would say most people joined Machinima because back in the day (2009-2012) they were pretty good, their partners actually worked with them and they were a LOT smaller. Oh well, RIP Machinima 2K19
So guys,we did it.
We ranted about Machinima.
I love watching Pyro
Now they deleted all of their content. The only videos that you can see on their channel are not their videos.
Machinima is officially dead at this point.
oh god there's that thing
+xeno the kawaii waifu nice profile pic
+xeno the kawaii waifu nice profile pic
+KittyKatKevin says u m80
+KittyKatKevin nice profile picture
+Scentpie say U m98
This was my first pyro video
lol XXXDDDD I liked my own comment
Pedro Perez edgy
very good channel
I always come back to this video just to listen to the outro song one more time
whoa wtf i was just going to revisit my childhood
NOSTALGIA
Never EVER, do partnership. I'm not religious but I swear Its the spawn of the devil.
jokes aside, you're practically signing up to work for people for below the average minimum wage.
What about RosterToth?
Not all partnerships are bad I guess... Just do allot of research and make sure that it's Only just advertising and not a reauploading of you videos
One of the only Pyro videos to still have Beach Walk as the intro and outro...
This was my first Pyro video.
Pyro 2017(I think): ugghhhh so cringeeeee
Pyro 2019: so I started a server and let you guys do whatever
7 years now. It's been 7 years since Machinima was caught in this controversy. Despite their bad business practices, I can't deny that they were truly one of the pioneering networking organizations (back when you pretty much needed a network to be seen lmfao, especially gaming channels) for TH-cam and gave alot of people careers, some of which still are around and have alot of deserving success.
Old background musics still here
Is that the Hotlands theme from Undertale in the background? I think I can just hear it.
Yes
+Tyke I believe it's Waterfall
+Engi Neer fuck yeah
+Jacob Dalolman I'm pretty sure it's hotland
It's called another medium
2 years later machinima privated all videos and deleted the channel
Well, now there is no more Machinima 🤷♂️🤷♂️
If only I could go back to this
You know what was more cringe than the royalty free ukelele? 009 Sound System.
Or TH-cam Studio
that song is beautiful don't say that
Okay but thats actually a fantastic band
*009 Sound Scape
wait Machinima still exists?
i miss old pyro
I Miss maid pyro
Spamming the haymaker with no shame, respectable
Machinima used to be kind of cool, you know, back when they actually posted machinima's in 2007-2010. Who knows...they probably sucked back then, too.
nightrale814 Not really no. They used to post a lot of funny shit back in the day. Some of it was cringy but most of the shit was funny. But after 2012, that’s when Machinina went to shit.
Machinima is now dead all praise the Lord
why don't u sue them?
I would
George Martin because it’s fair use, he can’t complain because he was given a contract about everything that could happen and it wasn’t in their control
here's how you get out of Machinima:
•Buy 12 gauge
•Go to Machinima HQ
•take your rep to the shooting range, have a bonding moment and discuss negotiations peacefully
*SNAP*
This is going to the FBI watch list.
does anyone have a re upload of pyros minecraft videos
Why can't you just make a new channel with an update video so the new one isn't partnered with machinima?
I thought the same thing
+Taco Tuesday The contract is directed to the individual that owns the channel, not the channel itself. An account is merely a product, so it doesn't matter where the videos are being posted.
What if the individual just stops posting?
And deletes all their videos?
+Caesar Augustus As stated in Machinima's terms of use, they claim no ownership on submitted content, however they have AND I QUOTE: "perpetual, irrevocable, non-terminable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to use, copy, distribute, publicly perform, display , modify, create derivative works, and sublicense..." i.e. You can remove them, but whilst you are under binding contract, it would do fuck all.
Back when he still used the undertale ost
this was my first Pyrocynical video I started to him 2 years ago I love pyros videos
Jesus my fucking computer wouldn't play this video at 480p wtf
play4thrill42 get a better graphics card you can get a titan for cheap on amazon
I really am disgusted by how ignorant you are. A Titan is fucking CHEAP? What about used products starting from 650$.
XxEnder Bros GamingxX pfffffffffffff a titan wut lol
CrazyC787 fokin bargain might aswell be at tesco
thanks pyro
i hate machinema hisssssss
+Harley365 just go fuck yourself
Shut up Harley HISSSS 0..0
+EzeQuiel l hisssssss
REPTILIAN BROTHERHOOD ASSEMBLE HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSŚSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
+carmaster93 officialrblx yess hisssssssssssssssss
This is one of the most honest, trusting videos I think Pyro's ever made, if u get what I mean.
360p swag lord
+Gayb Nudell Gabe don't u have work to do?
+Itz Blaziken
Get it right! Thats Gabe Newells unsucessful brother that bitches at Gabe Newell saying "Valve was my idea!" "Steam was my idea!" "He stole it for me!" While he drink beer on a beanbag chair with a tank top with red eyes.
Holy fuck that got deep.
+EpicGuy02 The one they put in charge of the Half-Life 3 development?
+AlStorm Rentnerjaeger
Thats why HL3 is gonna end up being a 2D flash game on Newgrounds.
Pyrocynical have you seen the movie chef?
I have been partner with Machinima for a bit over a year now, and I really regret signing a contract with them. I heard you said you were allowed to leave their partnership before three years time. Any tips for me to do the same?! I really need some help :(
- Thanks
Its been 3 years? U out now?
I just realized Pyrocynical isn't forcing his deeper voice in this. And this is 4 years ago, before he showed his face and before he stopped forcing that voice
Fr
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