Excellent video Brian, Makes me wonder are if all those extra hours and effort put into building complex PPE and Debt schedules worth it , given their low impact on the EV ?
The short answer is no, but bankers love to do pointless work. Complex models are rarely "worth it," but sometimes people like to talk themselves into believing they are.
Thanks a lot. Aren't you double counting the last year contribution when in the DCF calculation, you count that year's FCF in the "(+) Sum of PV of Free Cash Flows" part and also count that year's Ebitda in the "Baseline Terminal Value" part?
No. The Terminal Value represents the PV of the company's cash flows from the end of Year 14 or beginning of Year 15 onward. The multiple is what someone else is willing to pay for the company at that stage for the company's cash flows starting at the beginning of Year 15.
Always high quality stuff here, thanks a lot, Brian! So, the Enterprise Value is equal to the present value of the future unlevered FCFs. Is the Equity Value then equal to the present value of the future Net Income or dividends?
Equity Value is equal to the Present Value of Levered FCFs (so neither Net Income nor Dividends, as you must also factor in CapEx, Working Capital, non-cash add-backs, etc.). The main difference is that you also include the interest expense and mandatory debt principal repayments.
Thank you for the great video! I just have one quick question. If an interview question is: you spend $1000 to build a new factory (capex), then how does it affect EV. Does it stay the same or increase? If so, by how much?
@@financialmodeling But wouldn't an investment in PP&E (CAPEX) decrease my FCF and that decrease would reduce my Enterprise value? If I do think about this scenario as in your answer, I do understand it but if I think about it in a more "formula way" I do not understand it. I mean, Capex would be an investing activity and reduce my FCF (and so my enterprise value). Where is my mistake? Hope you can help me! Thx
@@undercover1923 Your thinking is incomplete. Yes, extra CapEx reduces UFCF in the short-term, but that investment will increase revenue and cash flow over the long-term, presumably by more than the upfront investment amount. You have to think about the whole cycle of an investment or spending process and the after-effects.
Hey. Why did you take DA, NWC and Capex as a % of revenue. I don't think that this is an appropriate way to calculate these figures. If you talk about revenue|cost drivers like new contracts or some kind of optimisation it all will affect revenue (margins) but there will be no effect on DA and Capex (fixed assets remain the same). So if revenue (or margins) will grow from 100 to 130 due to new contracts there will be 0 effect on DA and Capex and FCF will be higher compared to your calculations (cause of % revenue). This is my point of view =) Thnak you for videos you make. Keep going =)
My point of view is that your comment doesn't relate to the core purpose of this tutorial: the factors that influence Enterprise Value. You can debate how to project items like CapEx, and some people will use different methods, such as making CapEx drive revenue, making revenue drive CapEx, using a % growth rate, etc. But the real point is that IF something affects CapEx (or those other operational items), it will affect the company's Enterprise Value. A company's revenue growing will most definitely impact its CapEx. Higher sales will mean that the company has more funds available to re-invest in its business, and it will almost certainly do so if it can find useful ways to do that.
Once again, a great video. Amazing source of information, thanks a lot M&I !!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this video. This is the most fascinating topic in the company valuation to me.
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Excellent video Brian, Makes me wonder are if all those extra hours and effort put into building complex PPE and Debt schedules worth it , given their low impact on the EV ?
The short answer is no, but bankers love to do pointless work. Complex models are rarely "worth it," but sometimes people like to talk themselves into believing they are.
Thanks a lot. Aren't you double counting the last year contribution when in the DCF calculation, you count that year's FCF in the "(+) Sum of PV of Free Cash Flows" part and also count that year's Ebitda in the "Baseline Terminal Value" part?
No. The Terminal Value represents the PV of the company's cash flows from the end of Year 14 or beginning of Year 15 onward. The multiple is what someone else is willing to pay for the company at that stage for the company's cash flows starting at the beginning of Year 15.
Always high quality stuff here, thanks a lot, Brian!
So, the Enterprise Value is equal to the present value of the future unlevered FCFs.
Is the Equity Value then equal to the present value of the future Net Income or dividends?
Equity Value is equal to the Present Value of Levered FCFs (so neither Net Income nor Dividends, as you must also factor in CapEx, Working Capital, non-cash add-backs, etc.). The main difference is that you also include the interest expense and mandatory debt principal repayments.
Thanks!
Thank you for the great video!
I just have one quick question.
If an interview question is: you spend $1000 to build a new factory (capex), then how does it affect EV. Does it stay the same or increase? If so, by how much?
Enterprise Value increases by $1000 because you're swapping a non-core assets (Cash) for a core-business assets (the factory, which counts as PP&E).
@@financialmodeling But wouldn't an investment in PP&E (CAPEX) decrease my FCF and that decrease would reduce my Enterprise value?
If I do think about this scenario as in your answer, I do understand it but if I think about it in a more "formula way" I do not understand it. I mean, Capex would be an investing activity and reduce my FCF (and so my enterprise value). Where is my mistake?
Hope you can help me! Thx
@@undercover1923 Your thinking is incomplete. Yes, extra CapEx reduces UFCF in the short-term, but that investment will increase revenue and cash flow over the long-term, presumably by more than the upfront investment amount. You have to think about the whole cycle of an investment or spending process and the after-effects.
Thank you for this video. Can you make a video on residual income ?
We have something like that in our Bank Modeling course. It's such a specialized topic that we probably won't cover it here.
Hey. Why did you take DA, NWC and Capex as a % of revenue. I don't think that this is an appropriate way to calculate these figures.
If you talk about revenue|cost drivers like new contracts or some kind of optimisation it all will affect revenue (margins) but there will be no effect on DA and Capex (fixed assets remain the same).
So if revenue (or margins) will grow from 100 to 130 due to new contracts there will be 0 effect on DA and Capex and FCF will be higher compared to your calculations (cause of % revenue).
This is my point of view =)
Thnak you for videos you make. Keep going =)
My point of view is that your comment doesn't relate to the core purpose of this tutorial: the factors that influence Enterprise Value.
You can debate how to project items like CapEx, and some people will use different methods, such as making CapEx drive revenue, making revenue drive CapEx, using a % growth rate, etc.
But the real point is that IF something affects CapEx (or those other operational items), it will affect the company's Enterprise Value.
A company's revenue growing will most definitely impact its CapEx. Higher sales will mean that the company has more funds available to re-invest in its business, and it will almost certainly do so if it can find useful ways to do that.