Well, Alan did solve the hidden door, giving him the extra pieces to help her solve the puzzle. I actually think Alan did almost perfectly by not interrupting the person who was on a roll.
She solved the gaps herself, she told him E=y and he agreed as he had those letters, then she said "I think it says". She didn't have all the deciphers. It was bound to happen as she is very intelligent. Needed a better riddle or as others said here to split the riddle between them.
People are taking the Alan joke too seriously, it's just a bit of gentle ribbing - they both did a fantastic job at this task, was really fun to watch!
My friend said I have that when it comes to helping them in a cleaning group. They said that was a great positive. That I basically behave like a robot and do whatever they say. I love that they doesn't expect me to take iniative in this situation. Because I get overwhelmed oj where to start with cleaning so you need to direct me like an automaton.
I am a true fan of both Alan and VCM but let's face this: Alan wasn't useless, all the decoding bits were with Vic and she had the primary objectives, had she asked Alan for help, he would have been useful. Why blame Alan to be useless??
EXACTLY... even on the episode when they said Alan was useless, I was like "How?" Alan worked out his cipher pretty quick and had Victoria thought to ask him about his puzzle, they could've been done waaay quicker than their actual time.
@@kitsuneneko2567 that is true but that’s not what the video title was implying by “a bit useless”. They could’ve said “when you don’t need your teammate” in order to highlight VCM’s genius. The wording definitely implies that Alan was useless, as in “a poor performer”.
Alan revealed on the podcast that he actually got quite frustrated with Victoria on this task because she didn't listen to a word he said. You can see it at 4:10.
Alan wasnt useless though, just because victoria is incredibly smart and slightly obsessive, alan still managed to solve his puzzles and found the secret safe with victorias very cryptic hints.
The problem was the task itself. They should have given half the riddle to each team mate. A task for Victoria to do before Alan could get the Chaplin gear would have also caused more teamwork. As it played out... Victoria had all the instructions, all the riddle and enough of the clues to get it done before the task even started. Not Alan's fault but also not Victoria's either.
I think all they had to do was give the riddle to the person who found the second half of the puzzle rather than split the riddle. That way they'd at least have to discuss it.
In true Taskmaster fashion, I'd have just opened the envelope, because it says "You may only open me when SOMEONE looks like Charlie Chaplin". I'd conjecture that at any given time there's SOMEONE on this planet who looks like Charlie Chaplin.
Reminds me of the time when I was playing D&D and my dungeon master set up a challenge like this. I did the same thing, only found like half of the codes and figured out the rest of it just by intuiting which words were being used. At one point the DM told our group we could find the cipher key for the other letters and I just told him I liked it better this way, lol.
I'd rather have Alans calm demeanor than series 8 Ian loosing it constantly. Alan & Victoria have a nice balance. No offence to Ian. Eventually someone gives him a cup of tea and rubs his belly til he calms down.
I feel like the work would have been shared a bit more evenly if the letters on the back of the jigsaw hadn't been in alphabetical order and/or if Victoria had been given the first half rather than the second. Because even if you've only got half of the middle column, if it's the second half then you know the first half is just the normal alphabetical order. And it's really not difficult to do a code-breaker when you've been given 19 out of 26 letters.
Morgana's bonus points task was a bit BS, I feel for 2 bonus point she should have had to get both team mates to say 'submarine' at the same time without getting caught out
@@HubrisInc that was my initial thought too that it was a red herring but seeing as how V dog straight up destroyed that task, I am wondering if maybe the orange would have come in to play somehow had the task followed along all the steps.
Victoria was both brilliant and stupid. Her not figuring out that Alan had the other half of the code, and her terrible directions guiding him to the hidden panel was truly painful
Victoria did not "nail" this. Nailing it would be to ask Alan for the remaining decoding when he said that he had the code. She was very good but that discarding of information makes it "not nailing".
@@SwordQuake2 They're saying that her doing the task basically solo, which was incredible, wasn't the fastest way to complete the task, which was the objective
She's a puzzle queen and was on a roll. I've seen a woman at work do the same thing. The puzzle looks weird but in her brain it clicked and she just sat there with a pencil and paper and answered the problem in her own head. The brain was working, the logic was flowing, the solution arrived. Never underestimate Victoria when it comes to cryptic teasers. She's so clever she's scary :)
Even the worst performing contestants in a series have their moments...Victoria had this, Nish had Rosalind's song, Roisin had the high fiving, Katherine had...OK, _almost_ all of the worst performing contestants had their moments...😆
She didn't give him directions to find the hidden door, and ignored him when he was trying to give her the other half of the letters. This could have been a ten minute task if she worked smarter not harder. TERRIBLE thumbnail. Alan did everything he could, well.
@@thetessellater9163 the answer to riddle here is "nothing". Both Shakespeare and Preston have written outstanding studies of the concept of nothing. "nothing is neither good or bad, but thinking makes it so" (not the only quote of nothingness from hamlet) "Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin' " One might throw proust onto that list for good measure, but this is a British show.
to be frank i think victoria was the useless one in this task couldnt idenify a room map wouldn't let alan tell her he had the bloody other half of her puzzle basiclly just doing her half and being useless
Well, Alan did solve the hidden door, giving him the extra pieces to help her solve the puzzle. I actually think Alan did almost perfectly by not interrupting the person who was on a roll.
Agreed
She solved the gaps herself, she told him E=y and he agreed as he had those letters, then she said "I think it says". She didn't have all the deciphers.
It was bound to happen as she is very intelligent. Needed a better riddle or as others said here to split the riddle between them.
Good thing Alan didn’t have any revelations
People are taking the Alan joke too seriously, it's just a bit of gentle ribbing - they both did a fantastic job at this task, was really fun to watch!
This task was practically made for Victoria. All it needed were some Egyptian hieroglyphs and some tedious lounge singing 😂
And a march hare.
@@Machuell_DuLac WORSHIP IT
And posh string music
Alan has the underrated ability to just do what he is told
My friend said I have that when it comes to helping them in a cleaning group.
They said that was a great positive. That I basically behave like a robot and do whatever they say.
I love that they doesn't expect me to take iniative in this situation. Because I get overwhelmed oj where to start with cleaning so you need to direct me like an automaton.
I really want a Sherlock Holmes like series with Victoria as the detective and Alan as the slightly confused assistant now.
“It’s very much a task drawn from the world of the customised inhaler” is such a beautiful tie in to an earlier gag. Love Victoria.
Ah, for a moment I thought she was prejudiced against people with asthma
Alan was doing the exact right thing, knowing victorias strengths and not getting in her way while completing all her requests.
I dont think Alan was useless. He wasnt clued in by Victoria, she just ran with it
I thought that Victoria was so engrossed in her work that she wasn't listening to Alan when he was giving her information. Good work by both of them.
I am a true fan of both Alan and VCM but let's face this:
Alan wasn't useless, all the decoding bits were with Vic and she had the primary objectives, had she asked Alan for help, he would have been useful. Why blame Alan to be useless??
Well said .
EXACTLY... even on the episode when they said Alan was useless, I was like "How?" Alan worked out his cipher pretty quick and had Victoria thought to ask him about his puzzle, they could've been done waaay quicker than their actual time.
@@kitsuneneko2567 that is true but that’s not what the video title was implying by “a bit useless”. They could’ve said “when you don’t need your teammate” in order to highlight VCM’s genius. The wording definitely implies that Alan was useless, as in “a poor performer”.
Jokes.
I'd say it was thecontrast between what VCM did and what (little) Alan did !
Alan revealed on the podcast that he actually got quite frustrated with Victoria on this task because she didn't listen to a word he said. You can see it at 4:10.
Definitely a failed task by her, probably tripled the amount of time it took by going solo.
@@tristanridley1601 And yet she still has gotten so much credit for it.
Alan wasnt useless though, just because victoria is incredibly smart and slightly obsessive, alan still managed to solve his puzzles and found the secret safe with victorias very cryptic hints.
Also, she didn't solve J so Alan still helped solve the riddle.
The problem was the task itself. They should have given half the riddle to each team mate. A task for Victoria to do before Alan could get the Chaplin gear would have also caused more teamwork. As it played out... Victoria had all the instructions, all the riddle and enough of the clues to get it done before the task even started. Not Alan's fault but also not Victoria's either.
Well, they genuinely didn't think Victoria could solve it by herself...😅😅
I think all they had to do was give the riddle to the person who found the second half of the puzzle rather than split the riddle. That way they'd at least have to discuss it.
To be fair, they really didnt know that the riddle could be decyphered that way... Thats just on the producers forgetting how smart VCM is but yeah...
but then the other team would have taken even longer than the two hours they used
If I were ever presented with this task, I'd honestly be like Victoria too. I like puzzles and when I do them I usually get too in my own head.
Guz has another revelation from the lab, though
In true Taskmaster fashion, I'd have just opened the envelope, because it says "You may only open me when SOMEONE looks like Charlie Chaplin". I'd conjecture that at any given time there's SOMEONE on this planet who looks like Charlie Chaplin.
Can't wait for David's turn!
He had stated he won't do it.
@@annsmith9196 aw why not
To be fair Alan wasn't actually useless
He had to look like Charlie Chaplin, after all.
No one thinks he was, I'm confused why so many people took Greg's joke so seriously. Maybe its just people not getting the whole British humour thing?
This was the 1st episode that I saw of taskmaster, and 2 years later still watching. 👋💕🇦🇺
Victoria took over cuz it was making sense to her. Alan did have an orange. Where did that belong? Lol
Nowhere. Neither did the bell
Reminds me of the time when I was playing D&D and my dungeon master set up a challenge like this. I did the same thing, only found like half of the codes and figured out the rest of it just by intuiting which words were being used. At one point the DM told our group we could find the cipher key for the other letters and I just told him I liked it better this way, lol.
Useless: no, not needed: absolutely.
I'd rather have Alans calm demeanor than series 8 Ian loosing it constantly. Alan & Victoria have a nice balance. No offence to Ian. Eventually someone gives him a cup of tea and rubs his belly til he calms down.
Victoria Coren Mitchell is both funny and super smart. I always enjoy watching her on television...😊
She's so outstanding
s12 went right into the top seasons with 7 and 5 and 4
I feel like the work would have been shared a bit more evenly if the letters on the back of the jigsaw hadn't been in alphabetical order and/or if Victoria had been given the first half rather than the second. Because even if you've only got half of the middle column, if it's the second half then you know the first half is just the normal alphabetical order. And it's really not difficult to do a code-breaker when you've been given 19 out of 26 letters.
Morgana's bonus points task was a bit BS, I feel for 2 bonus point she should have had to get both team mates to say 'submarine' at the same time without getting caught out
Real "Only Connect" with Victoria
Wat do you mean? Allan did great. Victoria made it harder for herself by shutting him down.
I (heart) VCM so much
❤
Come on Acorn and/or Britbox!!! Mama needs Taxmaster!!
This was very funny. Especially the team of 3. However, Alan was not useless. Victoria just didn't listen to Alan and he didn't push.
that was fucking amazing!! victoria that was absolutely amazing!!!
What was the orange for?
one of the 3 bonus point morgana got to win the series. if morgana didn't get bonus points Guz would have won.
Which episode is this from
What the hell was the orange for
Same thing the crimson fish was for
@@HubrisInc that was my initial thought too that it was a red herring but seeing as how V dog straight up destroyed that task, I am wondering if maybe the orange would have come in to play somehow had the task followed along all the steps.
Orange is a clue. Nothing rhymes with orange
door hinge
@@nikolascagefreeeggs307 alright calm down there miniem.
Victoria was both brilliant and stupid. Her not figuring out that Alan had the other half of the code, and her terrible directions guiding him to the hidden panel was truly painful
Alan was not nearly as useless Guz was
This looks like scene from 3% tv series.
To be fair, Alan has experience being told things by very brainy people.
i wouldnt want to be any of their kids can''t hide shit.. xD
This is why Victoria became known as the 'thinking man's totty'. 😉
All for "nothing"
Victoria did not "nail" this. Nailing it would be to ask Alan for the remaining decoding when he said that he had the code. She was very good but that discarding of information makes it "not nailing".
Yes, someone finally speaking facts!
Decyphering it without all the substitutions is not nailing it? Wat?
@@SwordQuake2 Time.
@@SwordQuake2 They're saying that her doing the task basically solo, which was incredible, wasn't the fastest way to complete the task, which was the objective
She's a puzzle queen and was on a roll. I've seen a woman at work do the same thing. The puzzle looks weird but in her brain it clicked and she just sat there with a pencil and paper and answered the problem in her own head. The brain was working, the logic was flowing, the solution arrived. Never underestimate Victoria when it comes to cryptic teasers. She's so clever she's scary :)
That has to be the rudest thumbnail I've seen in quite a while. How disrespectful.
Even the worst performing contestants in a series have their moments...Victoria had this, Nish had Rosalind's song, Roisin had the high fiving, Katherine had...OK, _almost_ all of the worst performing contestants had their moments...😆
She didn't give him directions to find the hidden door, and ignored him when he was trying to give her the other half of the letters. This could have been a ten minute task if she worked smarter not harder. TERRIBLE thumbnail. Alan did everything he could, well.
shakespeare and billy preston rolling in their graves.
???
@@thetessellater9163 the answer to riddle here is "nothing". Both Shakespeare and Preston have written outstanding studies of the concept of nothing.
"nothing is neither good or bad, but thinking makes it so" (not the only quote of nothingness from hamlet)
"Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin' "
One might throw proust onto that list for good measure, but this is a British show.
to be frank i think victoria was the useless one in this task couldnt idenify a room map wouldn't let alan tell her he had the bloody other half of her puzzle basiclly just doing her half and being useless
Ha I just said the same thing. She seems to have a weird brain where she is brilliant but also incredibly poor at pretty simple things.
...and they went with one of the most generic riddles out