Ehat Horus fails to mention is that the new wealth created is then funneled abroad, manufacturing and productivity is offshored and cheap labor is imported to undermine the existing workforce. The system he advocates only exists as a positive within a closed system.
Very interesting. It brought home just how far back and how deep the rot has reached. There is no saving the system. Depressing but there it is. The Good ship Britannia is on the rocks.
They don't want a 'weak' currency. That's a disaster. They want a weaker currency IF they're a major exporter. They also want stability, not sudden and spiralling weakness.
@@romyarmada2521 Thanks for watching guvnor, glad to be of service. Curiously, I saw Dead Poet's Society twice at the time it came out. A powerful recapitulation of Boomer Truth aimed at Gen Xers. Someone should do a sequel about the characters being mugged by reality later.
They removed FX controls just as UK got North Sea oil, the rate shot up to 2.4 and British export industry was destroyed!. It wasnt GBP weakness in 1985 it was USD strength hence the Plazza accord
Where is the Quality and efficiency that was promised at the start? Today several decades after the sackings and sell-offs, what has actually happened to the products produced in the West? Everything has been destroyed hasn't it? If that is accepted then you redefine Corporations as an acceleration of Entropy, where as Evola says these groups "subtract themselves" from the ordering of society that they cannot bear any more and start consuming it. The damage is irreversible and is an outright attack on the organism, that can have only fatal consequences. The desperation by the Billionaires to "live forever" or to be resurrected in a machine, as well as the widespread adoption by society of strange new ideas, is a society that will soon be gone.
I think the elites overestimated the middle class, because our class system hadn't been based on merit for a long time. If we had a more equitable system, and "swapped" the intellectuals of the lower classes with the the midwits of the middle classes and tried it again I reckon it would work out much better. We really could have had it all, if we had more brains about it.
Dynamite second half there. The transition of power from government to the corporations and markets and the mess we're in today. The chutzpah of Goldsmith railing against the chaos he'd helped set in motion is hilarious.
There was eventually a big crash. It happened in 2008 and we're now living with the technocratic response to that, which was the market manipulation of interest rates through QE, which, in my opinion, has done more to drive wealth disparity and societal strife than anything in these documentaries so far.
Firing workers to provide higher returns to shareholders is short sighted, it is also counter productive, it does not generate higher productivity, new products or higher profit margins. At some point the company will be asset stripped/sold off or merged to preserve shareholder revenues - if it has not been hollowed out and made insolvent first. Avarice - it always comes down to that ugly word - greed. For someone who grew up in the 80's I can't help thinking Curtis' biases keep throwing a spanner in the works, it always seems to be a particular someone/something's fault. That simply isn't the case. This is what happens when you ignore the larger picture of history and you attempt to build your castles out of sand.
I would have thought that a huge drop in the pound would destroy the bond market and the international trade on the london stock market. When your currency drops a large amount against other currencies it makes your markets crash as people are selling and you can end up with a run away negative spiral. My investments in other currencies drop and rise mainly due to the exchange rate more than any kind of performance of the stock.
Never seen The Mayfair Set before. Have enjoyed the series and really enjoyed the commentary. I love how the Mayfair Set theme soundS like a cross between The Persuaders/Ipcress File and OMSS soundtracks.
I actually think that once you get to a certain level of wealth, the profit motive no longer applies. Like they say, there are only so many yachts and private jets you can utilise. Adding to this you have no time to enjoy them.
I remember talking to a lady who interviewed quite a few billionaires. Essentially she says they are multi millionaires who never stopped. A lot of them are more interested in growing their business out of interest than profit. Musk is probably a prime example. Fast cars, rockets and your own social media platform. He's literally has interests that mimick those of a small boy.
I find Goldsmith a interesting character. I wonder without him if Brexit would have even happened, even though he died nearly 20 years before the referendum.
It's interesting to go back and watch the BBC '97 GE broadcast. The Referendum Party stood in a huge number of seats, but get little mention in retrospectives on the GE. Although like wrestling used to be, it was a slow- burn story- line, Goldsmith did lay the foundation for what Farage would build on.
I think popular capitalism did cut across class. Basically they were selling assets cheap. However, not everyone bought into it thats for sure. So it selects for wealth creators but that didn't exactly correlate to class
Further to the Monopoly Thesis for Orange is the 7 is the most rolled number and from jail (which you go to from the square and several chance/community cards) 7 will land you on it site.
Ref: The currency flight. They would eventually have to put up interest rates in order to stem the flow. This would have effected the economy, undoing most of the economic boom they were attempting to undertake. At the time People accused the US of deliberately raising rates to try & undermine our efforts.
Those anti-system former major players are not actually against the current trends or actions that formed these trends. They were abroad with all their stuff when it benefited them and only started to vocally resist when the train had no seats for them personally. It would be too idealistic to assume that some good people would defeat bad people and tendencies. Still, sometimes bad people can do some good for humanity as a whole by biting each other. So, we can only hope that current state of affairs will eject more major players so through the quarrels of these some good may arise.
@@mikesecondname look at AAs previous documentary stream the one about the vulture capitalists , he played a central role in destroying American industry,and yes he is a british j
1:56:41 how is this Bond villain complaining about UK corrupt politicians? Is it because they didn’t back him to the death? Why wasn’t he arrested for being corrupt himself? I was way too young to notice any of this happening at the time and never knew to look into it. What a black hole I’ll be researching this weekend. This is the build up to ‘something happening’ in 1997.
I can't watch any more of these with Horus in with this extreme cope, e.g. around 1:25:30 Actually it goes further, Horus just whining about Curtis and saying he is speaking nonsense.... unwatchable with him on.
This Horus guy can't even follow the documentary. It is clearly mentioned the currency crisis happened at the end of 1984. Black Monday happened three years later but he thinks they happened a few months apart and after trying to work out how, then blames Curtis for being vague! The other two just let him stumble around and don't set him straight.
The libertarian response to the currency issue is to not have a centralised national currency, ie free banking. By having a free for all in the issuance of multiple competing British currencies the nation becomes less susceptible to weaknesses versus foreign currencies.
@@randomusername5242 for me it's a very interesting subject. Why do you think so? I believe we have prior data and historical experience in this from the time before the Bank of England. Free banking was tried in a number of countries including Scotland.
@@SGProductions87 In the US each of the 13 states had their own currency. Counterfeiting was rampant, you couldn't use one currency if you went to another state, the purchase power of each note was non existent.
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Ehat Horus fails to mention is that the new wealth created is then funneled abroad, manufacturing and productivity is offshored and cheap labor is imported to undermine the existing workforce.
The system he advocates only exists as a positive within a closed system.
Yes, we've created massive trade deficits that suck our economy dry. Yay.
It's like this in every video he is in, but he keeps getting invited.
Horus being a libertarian nerd and not understanding correlation between money and power is infuriating
Yeah, he's lagging behind, the stuff he says is naive, I don't want to be too harsh cause I once thought along similar lines...
For a time I just stopped watching any videos Horus was in, I might start that again.
In the Slater family the kids begged to be allowed to go to bed and dad insisted on just one more game of monopoly.
All streams need more bird song.
Very interesting. It brought home just how far back and how deep the rot has reached. There is no saving the system. Depressing but there it is. The Good ship Britannia is on the rocks.
Bird song or screeching owl?
They don't want a 'weak' currency. That's a disaster. They want a weaker currency IF they're a major exporter.
They also want stability, not sudden and spiralling weakness.
AA is like Luke Skywalker saying to Vader (Blair) "I know there's good in you!" and Blair saying "It's too late for me, son."
I wish I had the photoshop skills to make this!
Iv typed it once before and I will doubtlessly many times to come:
AA Curtis is solid, HOWEVER, AA + Curtis + Horus + Simon Roberts = perfection 🥰
Very kind sir, thank you. We love these films so it's a pleasure to have you listening.
@@Simon_RobertsMy captain my captain 🫡
@@romyarmada2521 Thanks for watching guvnor, glad to be of service.
Curiously, I saw Dead Poet's Society twice at the time it came out. A powerful recapitulation of Boomer Truth aimed at Gen Xers. Someone should do a sequel about the characters being mugged by reality later.
They removed FX controls just as UK got North Sea oil, the rate shot up to 2.4 and British export industry was destroyed!. It wasnt GBP weakness in 1985 it was USD strength hence the Plazza accord
Where is the Quality and efficiency that was promised at the start?
Today several decades after the sackings and sell-offs, what has actually happened to the products produced in the West? Everything has been destroyed hasn't it?
If that is accepted then you redefine Corporations as an acceleration of Entropy, where as Evola says these groups "subtract themselves" from the ordering of society that they cannot bear any more and start consuming it.
The damage is irreversible and is an outright attack on the organism, that can have only fatal consequences.
The desperation by the Billionaires to "live forever" or to be resurrected in a machine, as well as the widespread adoption by society of strange new ideas, is a society that will soon be gone.
I think the elites overestimated the middle class, because our class system hadn't been based on merit for a long time. If we had a more equitable system, and "swapped" the intellectuals of the lower classes with the the midwits of the middle classes and tried it again I reckon it would work out much better. We really could have had it all, if we had more brains about it.
This was an all time banger. Listened to the entire thing at work today
Dynamite second half there. The transition of power from government to the corporations and markets and the mess we're in today. The chutzpah of Goldsmith railing against the chaos he'd helped set in motion is hilarious.
There was eventually a big crash. It happened in 2008 and we're now living with the technocratic response to that, which was the market manipulation of interest rates through QE, which, in my opinion, has done more to drive wealth disparity and societal strife than anything in these documentaries so far.
Firing workers to provide higher returns to shareholders is short sighted, it is also counter productive, it does not generate higher productivity, new products or higher profit margins. At some point the company will be asset stripped/sold off or merged to preserve shareholder revenues - if it has not been hollowed out and made insolvent first. Avarice - it always comes down to that ugly word - greed. For someone who grew up in the 80's I can't help thinking Curtis' biases keep throwing a spanner in the works, it always seems to be a particular someone/something's fault. That simply isn't the case. This is what happens when you ignore the larger picture of history and you attempt to build your castles out of sand.
My friends family supplied Harrods with Hampsters from his their house in Clapham.
Hampsters? Hampers of Hamsters?
@@englishdogs By the gross.
Politicians go from a partner in the business for Slater to paid lackey for Al Fayed.
I would have thought that a huge drop in the pound would destroy the bond market and the international trade on the london stock market. When your currency drops a large amount against other currencies it makes your markets crash as people are selling and you can end up with a run away negative spiral. My investments in other currencies drop and rise mainly due to the exchange rate more than any kind of performance of the stock.
Murdock, Face and Col. Smith once again assembled for Lore. MINT
In American Psycho Patrick Bateman worked in M&A which he calls Murder's and Executions in the disco scene
Never seen The Mayfair Set before. Have enjoyed the series and really enjoyed the commentary. I love how the Mayfair Set theme soundS like a cross between The Persuaders/Ipcress File and OMSS soundtracks.
It's the theme to a 1966 TV show called 'Vendetta", composed by John Barry, can be easily found here on TH-cam.
@@Simon_Roberts Thank you
@@helenanderson5624 Most welcome!
I actually love how shabby all this is
The BBC news theme at 1:40:06 is the best news theme the BBC ever had.
I actually think that once you get to a certain level of wealth, the profit motive no longer applies.
Like they say, there are only so many yachts and private jets you can utilise. Adding to this you have no time to enjoy them.
To the rich they can never too much money. They are addicted to it, they worship as if it is their God.
After that you start being motivated by the fear of losing everything you have.
That's why we so rarely buy air.
I remember talking to a lady who interviewed quite a few billionaires.
Essentially she says they are multi millionaires who never stopped.
A lot of them are more interested in growing their business out of interest than profit.
Musk is probably a prime example. Fast cars, rockets and your own social media platform.
He's literally has interests that mimick those of a small boy.
@@HouseholdDog When you have so much money that any particular fistful of it won't be missed, a whole lot of uses of it are profit.
Damn, I didn't get this notification when it was live. Chatless viewing for me.
I find Goldsmith a interesting character. I wonder without him if Brexit would have even happened, even though he died nearly 20 years before the referendum.
It's interesting to go back and watch the BBC '97 GE broadcast. The Referendum Party stood in a huge number of seats, but get little mention in retrospectives on the GE.
Although like wrestling used to be, it was a slow- burn story- line, Goldsmith did lay the foundation for what Farage would build on.
Didn't he also start The Ecologist magazine? Fingers in the green pie too.
@@bruciebonus123 No, it was his brother, Edward Goldsmith
I think popular capitalism did cut across class. Basically they were selling assets cheap. However, not everyone bought into it thats for sure. So it selects for wealth creators but that didn't exactly correlate to class
wHY DID YOu invite a guy called Horus Heresy while talking about Margaret Thatcher, greatest of all Orks? Is this some kind of sick joke?
Good stream.
Further to the Monopoly Thesis for Orange is the 7 is the most rolled number and from jail (which you go to from the square and several chance/community cards) 7 will land you on it site.
Ref: The currency flight. They would eventually have to put up interest rates in order to stem the flow. This would have effected the economy, undoing most of the economic boom they were attempting to undertake. At the time People accused the US of deliberately raising rates to try & undermine our efforts.
9.4K views.The Adam Curtis streams continue 😃
Those anti-system former major players are not actually against the current trends or actions that formed these trends. They were abroad with all their stuff when it benefited them and only started to vocally resist when the train had no seats for them personally.
It would be too idealistic to assume that some good people would defeat bad people and tendencies. Still, sometimes bad people can do some good for humanity as a whole by biting each other. So, we can only hope that current state of affairs will eject more major players so through the quarrels of these some good may arise.
Goldsmith makes another appearance. hehe
This is the first time I’ve heard of James Goldsmith. Was he a good thing for the UK or was he corrupt too?
@@mikesecondname look at AAs previous documentary stream the one about the vulture capitalists , he played a central role in destroying American industry,and yes he is a british j
1:56:41 how is this Bond villain complaining about UK corrupt politicians? Is it because they didn’t back him to the death? Why wasn’t he arrested for being corrupt himself? I was way too young to notice any of this happening at the time and never knew to look into it. What a black hole I’ll be researching this weekend. This is the build up to ‘something happening’ in 1997.
1:53:44 The most based statement so far in the Curtis review.
Even though selling British assets to American companies in dollars is bad, surely privatization itself would be good if done the right way?
Saatchi n Saatchi add starred Ray Burdis (Scum, Love Honour and Obey) and Gillian Taylforth (Eastenders and the hard shoulder) 😊
Isn't the currency dropping absolutely terrible for debt interest that usually would be in $'s?
Name of track at the start please??
I can't watch any more of these with Horus in with this extreme cope, e.g. around 1:25:30
Actually it goes further, Horus just whining about Curtis and saying he is speaking nonsense.... unwatchable with him on.
Ricky Garvase isn’t for turning
Thx
This Horus guy can't even follow the documentary. It is clearly mentioned the currency crisis happened at the end of 1984. Black Monday happened three years later but he thinks they happened a few months apart and after trying to work out how, then blames Curtis for being vague! The other two just let him stumble around and don't set him straight.
Horus Heresy is a top NWA territory, ring name!
The libertarian response to the currency issue is to not have a centralised national currency, ie free banking.
By having a free for all in the issuance of multiple competing British currencies the nation becomes less susceptible to weaknesses versus foreign currencies.
And weaker in every other respect. In times of crisis the state requires control of the money supply. A libertarian state cannot win wars.
Having multiple currencies will make you even weaker to foreign and internal monetary issues.
@@randomusername5242 for me it's a very interesting subject. Why do you think so? I believe we have prior data and historical experience in this from the time before the Bank of England. Free banking was tried in a number of countries including Scotland.
@@SGProductions87
In the US each of the 13 states had their own currency. Counterfeiting was rampant, you couldn't use one currency if you went to another state, the purchase power of each note was non existent.
the actual libertarian solution is bitcoin which cant be printed by small hats and is the strongest currency ever concieved
You should do an econ short on the retirement funds and tie it into how etfs are being used similarly
THATCHER yuk 😮
Horus is truly woke
AA, why is your Total State stream with Auron gone?
Paywall
What is that bird chirping background noise around 27:00??
It's a blackbird in AA's garden during the stream!
Is t that an Eaton cap?
Feck Amurika
Indeed! مرگ بر آمریکا
Is Grare a Quare?
Excellent stream, gents.