Why It's Illegal to Call This a Cookie
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- This is the story of Anzac Biscuits - and how, for over a century, their name has been protected by law and become, 'the most protected word in the world'.
It explains why it's agains the law to call them 'cookies', and how a few chocolate chips could lead to fines or jail time.
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📖-- ANZAC: The Landing, the Legend, the Law by Catherine Bond is available here: www.booktopia....
🍪 -- Anzac Biscuit Recipe (as approved by the Department of Veteran Affairs) is here: www.awm.gov.au...
*shows world map*
“And this is New Zealand”
*Points to the sea*
Hahah pure gold
And 4:46 NZ is part of a path crossing the Pacific. Also strangely on this map Japan appears to be shaped more like Great Britain then the usual shape of Japan.
NZ= Australia-Lite aka Diet-Australia aka East Tasmania
Instant lol!
@@transkryption Australia = west island.
4:46 - reminds me of this 'conspiracy': th-cam.com/video/HynsTvRVLiI/w-d-xo.html
My first wife used to sell biscuits at Salamanca Market. She would spend hours on Friday night baking and packaging and then we would hit the market early the next morning. Early into the enterprise she realised she didn't really have enough and decided to bolster the supply with ANZACs as it is what we had ingredients for. She didn't expect to sell many but didn't want to turn up with only half a table of product. She baked about 30 dozen and we sold them all by 10:00AM. People went nuts for them. Often buying a bag and coming back 20 minutes later to buy another (she does bake the best ANZACs ever and this is my EX-wife I'm talking about). One morning we arrived to see an international cruise ship in port and it wasn't long before we had a US tourist standing in front of the stall. First he questioned the price - I explained that we made around 30 cents a bag. Then he spotted the ANZACs and asked what they were. We explained the history and I offered him one for free. He took one bite and his eyebrows went up. He paid for that bag and bought 3 more before he left. He didn't even look at the melting moments or the chocolate chip. Within 15 minutes we had sold every bag of ANZACs we had and explained the story a dozen more times (including the fact that we call them biscuits and not cookies, which I believe comes from a Dutch word). I like to think we did our bit spread the history around and didn't just provide people with extra calories to burn.
Ohhhhh, melting moments? I'm actually not a huge fan of ANZAC biscuits (I find them way too sweet with the golden syrup in them) but I'd scarf the lot of those melting moments!!
@@becsterbrisbane6275 Ha! Ha! I couldn't hand the butter in the melting moments! She also made giant ones (about 8cm across) for a cafe in Hobart - you would have been in heaven (or possibly a food coma)!
I am waiting for my pet ANZAC to grow up and start his own business.
Police? Get ‘em.
@@JulianOShea I wonder if their are pet friend Anzac biscuits? Or if say they can’t meet the recipe can get away with “I can’t believe it’s not ANZAC biscuit” pet snack lol
Someghing about cat litter trenches might go alright
@@ZootZinBootZ ohhhh too soon
@@JulianOShea Transpacfic flight! He did it in womens clothing? i didnt know that.
Being a American living in Australia, as I married a Australian. I am rather enjoying this channel and it's videos as it teaches me things about the country I now live in that are not normally discussed.
If my pet grew up and wanted to name a business after itself, I'd have other concerns.
Good information none the less
I enjoyed this, thank you
Absolutely love the usage of maps that don't have New Zealand.
Holy shit you made me literally laugh out loud with the arrow pointing where NZ would be on the map
twice!
Can someone exblen the zok
I don't get the joke, it looks like a mistake to me.
@@Atzu0110 the joke is that New Zealand is left off world maps. Here’s a video by the Prime Minister of New Zealand about the joke. th-cam.com/video/HynsTvRVLiI/w-d-xo.html
Julian is an Australian - and he twice points an arrow to an empty South Pacific. It is very funny.
The Tourism New Zealand video has a joke about Australia in it with the Phrase „Where the bloody hell are ya?“ which is itself a reference to an earlier Australian Tourism video. th-cam.com/video/TebeNC-_VjA/w-d-xo.html
Julian is joining in this long standing joke.
I couldn't stop laughing at the text that appeared on screen when he's talking about the vegan anzac cookie. "Some even said they thought the cookie would taste like elephant butthole. How could someone ever know what that tastes like?"
How? Just how? - It is hilarious.
thankyou! I just went back again to read this. :P
Makes me think of the Billy Connolly bit where he introduced Whoopee Goldberg to Vegemite and she told him it tasted like a cat's arse. He queried who had done her research.
If they were bold enough-
*Bear Grylls has entered the chat*
It is actually really nice to know they take it so seriously. Rightly so.
Thanks for another great video telling me something I didn’t know that I needed to know!
I agree, the basic premise seems to be 'don't profit off or mock/make-light-of our fallen diggers' which I have no problems with whatsoever.
The plane thing seemed a bit doggy woof woof though.
The Anzac myth is really absurd and laughable
@@appleslover what myth are you referring to?
@@appleslover Monique asked you now I will. Speak up!
"So, what are you in for?"
"I called my mother's biscuits anzac cookies"
I haven't had an ANZAC biscuit in ages. And now I want 5,000 of them.
I cracked up everytime you showed New Zealand on a map
This channel is so good, should have millions of views!
Kind words. Thanks!
It's very impressive for his lack of jump cuts
@@palpatinewasright It reminds me of Tom Scott
@@JulianOShea I'm loving seeing Aussies on the comments in TH-cam! I think this could be the secret of your success Julian :)
The irony of a law regarding what is supposedly "un-Australian" being made by descendents of colonists in 1914
key word "Australian" you pos.
My good mates mother in law makes ANZAC biscuits every year. She said to me many years ago while visiting, “Andrew would you like an ANZAC bikkie?( Yes bikkie!” 🤫), to which I replied “Yeah sure Lorraine!” After biting into it & it being quite hard, I said “So Lorraine, these the leftovers from WW1?!” Thank God I could run!🤣👍🏼🇦🇺 Lest We Forget…
😂 😂 🤣
That's hysterical!!
They were originally called Soldier Biscuits and someone lady in Adelaide called them Anzac Biscuits later during WWI.
Bro these subtle jokes get me going harder than most so called comedy channels. You're a Melbourne legend man.
I am so glad I've found your channel, nice to see the algorithm pushing things your way. I know you will blow way way up. Just a matter of time mate. Loving everything you do.
Thank you so much! Cheers, Mohit.
I feel like the punishment for an American calling them "cookies" should be them getting forced to eat an entire jar of the most delicious spread, Vegemite.
I don't see how that's a punishment. That's how you're supposed to eat Vegemite, it's not a spread it's a meal unto itself.
@@beardlyinteresting Americans seem to hate it for some reason. I personally think that the Milo spoon and Vegemite spoon are the same thing.
@@MyHandleIsGood I like to mix them together with some milk in a blender. Makes for very nice milkshakes.
As a Kiwi I agree that offending yanks should be punished with Vegemite, but a jar of Kiwi Marmite and a French stick would REALLY sort them out. On second thoughts no, we shouldn't waste lovely Marmite or the Aussie Vegemite on anyone dumb enough to call an Anzac biscuit a cookie
Not enough. Get that shit onto some dry weetbix and that'll teach them a lesson.
This is so cool to learn! I had no idea about these restrictions at all!
It's also said that ANZAC biscuits were made using ingredients that were available despite government rationing programs.
However the government didn't ration supplies on the home front during WWI.
And when they did in WWII, it included two of the ingredients of ANZAC biscuits (butter and sugar).
Maybe people thought rationing was why the sugar in ANZAC biscuits is golden syrup instead of refined sugar? I'm pretty sure the real reason is that golden syrup is cheaper. Just about any edible oil would work as a substitute for the butter though I'm not sure how common or available other oils were (except for animal fats like lard).
I think it's good that these are protected. We need to do a lot more of this with our Aussie Products and prevent shitty knock-offs. We've gone from a country of leaders and innovators to a country of followers and copiers. It's a real shame. We can do so much better, but our politicians for one lack so much foresight and fortitude, it's ridiculous.
My grandfather, who was with the artillery at Gallipoli, would approve.
A few families after WWI named their new borns middle name Anzac most were born on Anzac Day various years. I noticed this when I worked at DVA for 9 months. And handling WWII Veterans records.
I reckon you could forensically tell how long a packet has been open by comparing crunch to chewiness. If you can bear to leave any at all and don't just guts them all off at once that is.
Just watched your video and am making Anzac biscuits for my first time using the link love them can’t wait for mine to come out the oven
Anzac biscuits are the best with milk!
If only the Australian government would stand up for the folks who created UGGs....
That's a different problem entirely with a whole heap of legal landmines and a corporation which are just honestly scum of the earth. You'd need courts all over the world to classify the term 'ugg' as common use for any sheepskin footwear for their trademarks to be nullified, and unfortunately outside of Australia and NZ that's not really the case because the only 'ugg' which exists are theirs.
@@rickau and inside Australia, because as RealFarknMcCoy says, our government does not stand up for them.
I've been on a binge for this channel ever since discovering it a week ago. This video is the best yet! So many jokes and knowledge bits... Wins. Hope the YT algorithm pick you up soon because this content is gold.
I used to eat Anzac biscuits when I initially came to Australia. Grabbed a family pack in Woolworths downstairs and I was good to go. Now not that much anymore, though I do appreciate the recipe the biscuit is made upon. Feels just about right as a foreigner.
Gosh, thanks for all this information, it's good to know. We may have lost almost every industry of significance but we still have our Anzac Biscuits damn it! Cookies? How dare they! 😄👍
This kiwi didn't know that law. But it's a good law. Anzac biscuits are my favorite of all time.
Thanks for this video! 😄
Now i want a dozen. Anzac Biscuits are sooo good.
My workmate, such a beautiful soul, made the best Anzac biscuits, he would bring in several large containers every few weeks. Unfortunately a few years ago he was diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumour. The company raised several thousand dollars to send him on one last holiday. Rest in peace, Dale.
nothing beats a line of ANZACs and a glass of milk.
I’m no lawyer, but US trademark law apparently always allows a trademark if it contains the applicant’s name or is a distinctive part or property of the product. For example, two companies can be called Goodyear because goodyear rubber is a phenomenon. Two people with the same last name can use their names in their products.
Also, biscuits and cookies require different doughs to make, so I could perhaps see how the Australian government is protective of this.
Australia: Rigorously protects the use of the word "Anzac."
Rest of the world: Has never heard of Anzacs.
Australia: "Maybe we didn't think this through..."🤔
Subbed.
This channel is very very interesting and clearly has a fair number of hours done on research.
I hope the young fella can persevere with the slow sub rate until it really begins to take off because i can see a real future for the channel if he does.
Sometimes the effort for seemingly little reward is worth it in the longrun.
30k subs can easily become 130k in another year and with the views he is getting he will start seeing some $$$ coming in
We do call them "Bickies" unofficially so makes sense that it is not a cookie. Plus Cookie is such an American thing
Cookie originates from the Dutch. Koekje.
As a Kiwi I endorse these restrictions. Also, I've eaten plenty of biscuits in the last 60+ years, but NEVER a cookie. Also, I have really enjoyed reading a comment section so full of stuff from us Kiwis and Aussies, makes a welcome change.
Thanks Mate. Whilst is so very true that we love to take the piss out of each other. It’s also equally true that we will stand shoulder to shoulder when we have common cause, against all comers.
And defending the commercialisation of Anzacs. Is actually something that both of our countries governments have actually got right, and from all sides of politics too.
And that’s very rare indeed.
Lest we Forget.
P.S. Yes, we take the piss out of each other when we can, but some things just aren’t funny, and should indeed be respected.
And for any foreigners reading this. You will never find a Aussie or Kiwi, derisively mocking anything about Anzac. It’s just not done.
And if you try it. You will find two countries United against you.
Looks like the TH-cam algorithm gods have smiled upon you, and very deservedly! You've gained my subscription very quickly, loving these quirky Aussie tales.
Actually your point about this was the first time Australia had sent troops as a national entity is in correct. After the colonies of Australia formed the Commonwealth of Australia (federation) on the 1st of January 1901, the new Government of Australia sent "Commonwealth" contingents to South Africa and thus this means that the Second Boer War was the first war in which the Commonwealth of Australia fought as a national entity.
I think he meant to say that it was the first time the Aussies and Kiwis sent troops together as one entity. If it was just Australia it wouldn't be ANZAC but would be AAC which doesn't flow as easily :)
@@lazyfrogonalog Incorrect. He clearly states "this new nation" not these 2 nations. Anyway this particular point about it being the first time Australia had sent troops as a national entity has been wrongly taught for many years as has the point about the Gallipoli campaign being the "Baptism of Fire" for Australia as a nation. People are now trying to get both points rectified as being incorrect.
@@SpudsMcHaggis Well if I am incorrect, then so are you because I was agreeing with you. The name ANZAC clearly shows that it was two nations fighting together as one. Australia and New Zealand Army Corps is self explanatory. I thought I made my point clear & I'm sure Julian would probably agree that he misspoke.
@@lazyfrogonalog it was not two nations fighting as one nation. The formation of the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps was an administrative formation (as are all corps) that also included units from the British army and navy and the British Indian army. In fact the commanding officer of the Corps was from the British Indian Army and most of the corps staff came from the Indian Army as well. The Australian and New Zealand Army Corps was actually a multi-national formation.
I suggest you do some research into it as you will see that it is not as clear cut as most people think it is.
@@SpudsMcHaggis You do like arguing with people that agree with you, don't you. But to stop this silly conversation, you are right and very clever and I agree with what you say. Sheesh! PS and I did notice you misquoting me :)
3:02 I'm impressed at how Australia's stood up to the attempted onslaught of American culture. Over here in Britain we have Maryland cookies. But at least our home-baked products are sold under the proper name of biscuits.
Well to be fair if it's an American or American style product it'd make sense to use the American word. Pretty much the same thing as ANZAC Biscuits, except the word Maryland obviously isn't as protected
“Onslaught” I think you need to chill mate
In general the term cookie is used for quintessentially American style of biscuits e.g. choc chip cookies or peanut butter cookies, but if it's something traditionally British or Austalian like shortbread, or ANZAC it's labelled biscuit. In the same way as you'd treat something that comes from another language e.g. Italian Biscotti.
hahahahaha we spell baseball like this
great channel a real gem gem, only been watching for about a week i learn something new every time
liked and subscribed
That cricket gag was great..
I just came across this channel the other day and I love it
The jokes in this one were on point mate, great stuff
Wow! I did not know there were restrictions on the Anzac Biscuit. I'm a 40 year old Australian. I have made them at home, but I have never sold them.
Subscribed!
I cracked up when at 0:50 the new zealand arrow just points at nothing, we are never on maps haha
Absolutely loved this one. Thanks for making these videos!
That's a nice cookie in the thumbnail
Inmate: what you in for?
Inmate 2: i called a biscuit a cookie
*Inmate backs off*
Dude, awesome video! Been watching a few atm and enjoying it. Keep up the great work!
Cheers!
Dude I have just stumbled upon your channel, and I love it. Very well presented and so informative. You really do deserves more subs.
Thanks, mate - appreciate it
Hey Julian, this could be one of your best. Well done.
Uh oh - that was my first video. Is it all downhill? 😅 - Glad you liked it!
Fantastic video. Keep up the good work.
Australian Govt. being heavy handed? hard to believe
Great video.
Cricket. LOL
"one tough cookie" LOL
I love the look of a government emblem with _department of biscuit affairs_
The linked official recipe has the original army biscuits (hardtack) as Anzac wafer or Anzac tile.
There was a family that wanted to name their baby Anzac but got knocked back a few years ago.
Fantastic video Julian- So pleased I found your channel- Cheers
Cheers mate!
I had a Staffy dog I called Anzac. We shortened it to Zac but as I am an Australian army veteran I thought it appropriate.
I really hope that the 'Department of Biscuit' affairs is a real thing, and not just a play on words!
Now I’ll never name a dog ANZAC because I want it to be able to open a business
Not all biscuits are cookies but all cookies are biscuits. Cookies are a subset of biscuits, soft and usually containing chocolate chips or similar.
3:51 "way worse scandals" like a manager wanting to give *his* footlong to people
I feel like this video needs a follow where Julian cooks some ANZAC biscuits
As an Aussie im happy the government takes this seriously.
Ahh yes, my favourite cricket team. The LA Dodgers
Still better than England.
I had no idea that the ANZAC biscuits was a regulated thing let alone the damn recipe of it. That’s amazingly Aussie of us
yeah mate, where I come from we call them oat cookies
@@sunshine8556 horrendous
I read article 6ter of the Paris Convention and it seems to say in paragraph (2) that other countries only need to prevent the use of ANZAC in biscuit and cookie-related trademarks, not ALL trademarks. So you really could sell Anzac Mr. T pots, just not in Australia or New Zealand.
So what they call biscuits in the US, we in Australia would call a scone? Which is why I was perplexed as to the existence of a Popeye's Chicken and Biscuits outlet on holiday once.
I wish there was also a law to not call Z "Zee" in Australia.
I found out not long ago that original ANZAC biscuit didn’t have coconut in it, the reason why I found that out because my daughter has a allergy to coconut
And I would never use the word cookie it’s very American and I am a Australian 🇦🇺
Got to keep up with company policy
You've done it again Julian! Who would have though you could be sent to jail for calling it an ANZAC 'cookie'.
That is absolutely phychotic.
OH MY GOD once i was in history class and we were disputing cookies vs biscuits and i said "you don't say anzac COOKIE" and my classmate said "yes you do" and i yelled WHAT THE FUCK just as the teacher walked into the room
And now there is an underground Melburnian train station under construction called Anzac Station. That must definitely be in honour of the veterans.
Biscuits and cookies are two different things in Australia too. Cookies are harder and sweeter. Biscuits are softer and buttery
How deplorable for a country to take ownership of a word like this.
please tell me you're joking
It’s not illegal to call it a cookie it’s illegal to call it a cookie when you are trying to sell it.
Just finished smashing a 24pk of woollies Anzacs... now I think I need to do some baking
I remember Subway selling them as ANZAC cookies.
that baseball = cricket joke was amazing
Tell it to my local bakery, god it riles me up when I see people advertising Anzac cookies.
Pisses me off any time someone uses cookie instead of biscuit, but its especially bad for Anzac biscuits.
4:38 cookies in french is biscuits so idk why they'd need this
OK, "Anzac Biscuit" is the appellation for the specific recipe - so what's in it? Never heard of them up here in Canada. Good video, by the way.........thanks!
Thanks for including the recipe link. A looked online a while back and found multiple variations but hard to tell what was original, although I did have a copy of the Country Women's Association recipe book which seemed closest, but was a later edition, so will have to compare. Cheers
Australia, where they take away your human rights but at least preserve a cookie.
New Zealanders should be madder that the map used at 00:50 doesn't have New Zealand on it.
I'm surprised that ANZAC Bikkie didn't get through but better to have clear lines. I think they should also require that products are mostly made in Australian/New Zealand, from local ingredients - if not 100%. That would make locally made ANZAC biscuits more Australian than most Australian flags.
This video made me want to bake some Anzac biscuits. So I ordered some golden syrup.
invite aussie grandma over in the states
she bakes a batch of anza-cuits
"that's one delicious cookie, grams"
she gasps in horror at my heinous crime
a koala scream can be heard
a squad of swat kangaroos break in
"EVERBODY ON THE FLOOR! NOW!"
they throw a boomerang and hit me
kangaroos ship me to australia
face 20 to life in aussie prison
worst part is i keep falling on the ceiling because i don't have a ground harness
When someone uses the word biscuit to refer to a cookie I usually think of those really hard flat cookies that also explain the word dog biscuit. Vs something like a chocolate chip cookie which is softer and thicker. Biscuits are shaped more like crackers but are way harder and more sweet vs salty.
Edit to add I'm from the USA
The players in the ABL would be very surprised to learn of that spelling of "baseball".
I love the the water between Aus and NZ is apparently called "the ditch."
you talking about the tasman? I have never heard it called the ditch...
@@benamende5897 He seems to say New Zealand is "across the ditch"
See also: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Ditch
It is article 6 ter. The third version of article 6. You will from time to time see bis as an indication of version 2.
Befire we had version 2.0 as a thing, we had bis. But only the cognoscenti appreciated it. 2.0 had much better PR people.
The terminology us common in the international standards community.
Chewy ANZAC biscuits are best.
My namesake from Perth would like to point out you do have an Australian Baseball League... with teams in Adelaide and Melbourne.
Wow, those are some tasty Anzac cookies
Police.
Wish they had done this for Ugg Boots