I know you have TYM as a sponsor, and you must tell people how great they are because they have a fuse, but it seems to me that if they know this is a problem, and it sure seems that at least their field techs do, then it should not be a problem to move the ignition switch. That switch can be anywhere on the panel, get it out of the way of the moving parts.
I agree with Stephen! TYM should recall them, it's great that Eric called and got the advice from the dealer and got it working again with a fuse. That hay trailer looks good.
We just ordered this same tractor. Supposed to be delivered this week. I sure hope we don't have too much trouble with it. I've heard they are good machines
The issues have been user error 100%. It also had (has) an issue where it will get 'stuck" in gear . . . Erik swore up and down that it was the TYM's fault. I pointed out his shifting is dirty and he never drives the NH. He drove the NH this fall and lo and behold . . . it DID THE SAME THING. I grew up on clutch and stick, that's all we had, so it's second nature to me. Tractors don't like to shift over bumps, or go from low to high gear "on the fly". The TYM I was able to jiggle loose by driving fast over a bumpy field and carefully shifting gears (bumping it loose). I'm hoping the fix for the NH is just as easy, or my hay season is going to be in SERIOUS trouble :( But I talked to another sub who mentioned his TYM has a different dash and the sales guy said they had modified the design since our tractor. So whe n yours comes, look at it carefully and compare it to mine. if the spacing looks similar, you'll want to access the throttle lever and either cut the bolt shorts or wrap it. But I don't think many will have this issue. Most know to use the foot throttle ;)
@@This1LifeWeLive Thanks for the information. I also realized ours is hydrostatic, so I assume this will be a non issue. I should probably check the throttle and ignition switch. I appreciate the video and heads up. Seems like a great machine so far. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Wow that's just some seriously good down to earth Intel for tractor owners. And if you can't get it yourself I guess I could imagine the hourly Shop rate at your local dealer. Thanks for the info have a good weekend
Don't rely on tape to cure that situation. Get a shorter bolt or if possible reverse the bolt and use a self locking nut to secure the Hand Function of the Throttle on its' pivot. Use zip ties if possible to hold wiring clear of moving parts or contact points.
That is a design flaw that should have been corrected to allow spacing for the parts to prevent rubbing. I am surprised that TYM did not cover this under warranty. I have had problems with Tractors before and usually the manufacturer will have you bring it in and they will fix the error of free. Yes I lost time taking it in but they provided a loaner to complete my job while they worked on the tractor.
We don't have a trailer, and often it can take time for them to get a driver out to get it. It was much faster for us to pull it open and make the repair :)
My TYM 234 HST has 750 hours on it. I've had the front loader arms crack off twice. I added steel and bracing to the tractor and so far, so good. The backhoe separated from the tractor the first hour of use, and then I welded up a new bracket to attack it to the rear center pin. Now it stays on. During use, 3 of the bearing posts of the backhoe failed and I welded them back on with additional metal, which has worked well so far. The rear upper attachment of the backhoe to the transmission then broke into little pieces, I had to weld up a beefer bracket. At 700 hours, the main frame cracked and the tractor about folded in half, and cracked the plastic seat surround (the body as in were that in most tractors is steel) was destroyed. Total parts are $2500 to restore it to service. I did all the work. took me about 50 yours total to disassemble and reassemble the unit. I am done with TYM products. This machine could have killed me more than a few times, I feel lucky. I am going to unload this thing as soon as I can find a buyer.
Great post. While I did not have this happen to me, my dealer contacted me about 4 months after it was delivered to say that an issue had been discovered and he wanted to make a preemptive modification to the console. The switch was moved a bit to the right and a different size bolt was attached to the throttle lever, under warranty. My dealer also has shown me how to access areas of the tractor in the hope of having the machine not go out of service with a problem that I can rectify. I'm impressed with both my TYMs(4) and my dealer. Love your channel. I was first introduced to the TYM brand when you first took delivery of your TYM.
I'm glad you are loving them! I have NO complaints on mine. She even starts RIGHT UP in the sub zero temps! I couldn't even do that with my John Deere . . . thing had to be plugged in all the time!
@@This1LifeWeLive Like your experience, I've had no problems starting any of my TYMs this January and it's been an old fashion eastern Canadian January..... lots of snow and numerous days were it's been below zero Fahrenheit. The machines are stored in an uninsulated tractor shed. They all have electric battery blankets and get plugged in when the temperature goes below -10 Celsius. I find that by doing that, batteries last between 13-15 years. None of my tractor friends get that kind of longevity from their batteries, but none use battery blankets. Stay safe.
@@This1LifeWeLive I assume that they aren't that common in your parts because it doesn't get as frigid down in your neck of the woods. Up here, they're more helpful than block heaters. It's actually a vehicle's battery that takes a pounding in frigid weather. I've admired your work ethic and tenacity with your desire to make a success with your farm.
Good job on figuring out the issues. When lubing throttle linkage I would recommend a product like LPS 1 it's a greaseless lube that won't attract dirt.
The one thing I can say about the smaller tractors is they tend to vibrate stuff loose. I almost found out the hard way to take a set of wrenches and sockets and re-tighten every single nut and bolt you can find after about a month of working it during the break in period!
That's similar to what my son said about the cheap new Chinese motorcycles and quads a few years back. The neighborhood kids would all enjoy them for a day or whatever then my son and another dad would go through and retighten everything for next time. Sounded like a big PITA but I suppose the kids had fun anyway, lol.
I'm been working on 184 cub lo boy lawn mower for 20 years now, I've re-engineer the electric pto belts tensioner instead of the junk spring that keeps tension on it and as of present I'm working the throttle cable from dash controller to governor arm which should have been a steel push rod of a quarter inch thickness to push governor arm back instead of a cheap steel push/pull cable because with yours any moisture gets inside of throttle cable that lays on hot engine has tendency to rust up and bind up a engineer flaw design, case closed,see you on the next videos 📹 :)
Happy to see you got it sorted! A little note of concern , do not keep both keys together- you lose one you lose them both. Happy Day to you and family!
Good info , All they need to do is relocate the key switch a half an inch to the right in the wire won’t rub drill a round hole with a holesaw bit over a little further and stick it through the hole if possible,, Nice looking tractor they have good reviews I guess they make them worldwide
You might be able to do a wrap or two of electrical tape around the ignition switch if there is enough room. Farmers who own will sometimes relocate the switch completely.
I see this video as a pro, to the tractors overall design. It's literally simple enough that the average owner can repair it with basic troubleshooting. If it were a different color tractor and you pushed a button or flipped a switch and nothing happened I don't think your day would go anywhere near this smooth.
Glad you got it going. If you want to you can take a hole saw and move the switch over a little bit. Take care and have a blessed week and I'll see you on your next vidja.
I would try getting some dry-slide on those cables. WD-40 might damage the rubber, I'm not sure about PB Blaster. Dry-slide is a graphite powder that should last a long time.
I can tell you from experience not to use PB blaster on anything rubber or thin plastic, it will eat right through it. PB blaster is penetrating oil, only use it on rusted nuts and bolts, never as lube.
With a hydrostatic tractor you don’t throttle near as much - use hydro to speed up or down much friendlier for loader baler etc work my opinions - used hydro 100 Ihc for mowing baling chopping silage for years good luck
I see lots of issues on youtube with tym tractors. Looks like a design flaw, they put a fuse in to stop the tractor shorting out and possibly causing a fire. They appear to know the hand throttle will damage the wires running to the ignition switch, it would be safer to redesign the hand throttle.
I have had a few viewers comment back to me that they bought one and TYM HAS since moved the throttle lever over. The fuses are there for ANY sort of wiring issue, which I;ve read happens commonly in small tractors. But most tractors don't have the safety fuse and catch on fire instead . . .
My wife has not had that problem on her 3038E JD that is 9 years old. I am thinking that TYM just put the switch in the wrong place or routed the wires incorrectly. Really C-IH and JD are the only two viable tractors to use and make a profit farming. One guy tried to do it with NH equipment and finally traded in all in on C-IH equipment. It is good that TYM helped you with the problem.
I just picked up a t474 cab and love it. I went over the whole thing when I got it relocating and securing wiring as well as hydraulic lines. Looks like I'll be messing with this tomorrow. Edit* I looked and my throttle cable is at least an inch away from the ignition switch. Dash is identical looking but there must be some differences I guess.
Good to know! Maybe mine was a fluke! I almost went with the 474, but it came down to weight and being able to handle a load of hay with the grapple. The 574 is JUST big enough! I LOVE how tight they can turn and so nimble!
@@This1LifeWeLive so far in the 22 hours I have on it I can't complain about much. Lift capacity on the loader is awesome! Tractor is nice and compact so it fits my needs just right. Only think I wish it had was a parking light for the parking brake.
I've had the 433 for over ten years. No issues with this so far. Dash looks identical. Be aware if you put a dark tarp over it though, it will melt the gauge cluster frame... 😕
A 754 or a 574? lol! I had been eye-balling the 474 because it would be more pasture sized, but I'm so glad for the 574! It's a great all around do everything size!
@@This1LifeWeLive LOL, No, I meant the T754, but I was looking at the T574 and the T654, but with the things we are doing and the things we want to start to do around here, the T754 will work out better. But then again, I am also looking at the Mahindra 6075, which is about the same size as the TYM T754
When the throttle shorted out that 40 amp circuit, it is like an arc welder welding the throttle into position. If you can't move the screw, maybe you could grind it down. You could cut a strip of some type of flexible plastic, wrap it several times around the ignition switch wiring and tape around that. Try covering the throttle screw with something too.
i never work the throttle back and forth i set it and use the tractor that speed why dont you use the foot throttle and bypass the problem with the hand one?
Exactly. Erik doesn't normally run tractors, and this was the first time running one with the grapple system. After the repair I told him about the foot throttle, and he has been suing that since :)
Interesting find! Most modern tractors have a ton of safety fuses compared to older tractors ….even more so with EFI tractors . That issue of the wire rubbing would be a YTM problem….not all tractors would necessarily have that issue due to the location of the ignition switch and throttle lever! Nice find tho ….it does help a lot when a specific fuse blows to isolate the circuit faster! I would also use a chain lube or some sort of lube that won’t dry up so fast….PB blaster dries up pretty fast …few days and it will be just about gone! I was gonna make a comment when you were demonstrating the 2 throttle operations about how gritting and notchy the linkage appeared to be and could use some lube….but watching the full video you were on it….😊
If I am seeing correctly the double nuts are on the ignition switch side. Turn the bolt around if you can to put the bolt head on the ignition switch side. That will move it away from the switch as it will not stick out nearly as far. If the bolt is attached, made into, the throttle just use a single nylock nut and trim off the excess bolt length.
I do agree it is an issue that could be fixed, and with them being newer to the tractor market they might be more open to a re design. MANY tractors have design flaws that never get repaired. I know new holland has a known issue with their clutch cable line being too tight... and they won't cover the repair under warranty. This issue isn't normally something most people face on this tractor because they would normally have a hydrostatic tractor. And this is what the foot throttle is for, lol!
My main power is a 800 series Ford. About 6 or so wires in the harness and after about 65 years of running most of the bugs are worked out! LOL But yes on the newer anything there are problems galore. 99% of problems I have diagnosed boil down to wiring from loose connections to broken wires. A good multimeter is a lifesaver. A test light will tell you current is present, a meter tells you how much is there. When I started turning wrenches years ago I never thought those items would be the most important in my tool box.
Hi, farm girl. I'm curious if you are beginning to like the hay grapple? I'm really thinking about getting one. It's hard to find people that wanna help load hay out of the field
There are LOTS of other grapple makers out there. It's a good idea, but I would NOT recommend the Maxilator. I think Parrish makes one too that will collect bales. The specs are different on all of the different makers, and Maxilator has the least sensible specs. Even in their own production videos they show the product as a massive fail. Check out Parrish!
I just talked to Kuhn's yesterday at the Penn State Ag progress show they seem to have it figured out but very pricy set up. About $30,000 for everything
This is Paul from Ohio and I really like your new/ used tractor and I just joined your channel and I really like it alot and please enter me in your hat contest, and you.
You know Suzanne, troubleshooting electrical problems never looked so good until now. Okay, I know Eric had a part and yeah, he may have had an integral part in figuring it out but just "think" about how more effective his work is because you make it look so good! j/k All due respects to the hubs and enjoy your content! ;-)
Hey wt farm girl love watching your channel alot every day u are awesome TH-camr and the pretty woman on your channel keep up the amazing work say safe and healthy with your family i hope this will get better soon so we can get back to normal life soon u are my favorite TH-camr 😀
UGGGHHH.., it's a massive PAIN! It only holds 100 bales MAX (usually 80), you need a team of people to get it done. One to bale, one to drive the truck to the barn, and one in the loft to help stack. Dumping them on the ground made a huge mess, and anything the knotter skipped or failed, the cart would be FULL of loose hay! Lots of people out here still use them, but they usually have family helping ;)
Metal against metal or electrical, its a mini welder or burns that cable when shorted for the brief second its there and it sounds like it happened many times in trouble shooting at least and each time heated that cable when short occurs. The metal wire leading to the throttle is getting worse and worse and will break right where this short occurs. So file that little metal wire just enough to smooth it out. If that cable (throttle) is discolored, get a new one as it will snap off at the worst time ever. I would move that switch over the little distance it takes to make it clear the problem. Hopefully it will move a full distance away from the factory hole and then use a blank for the hole left where that switch was. You will find covers at NAPA on those swivel self help stands or even on their wall. They make them for people who toss the cigarette lighter holes. Hopefully this helps you Susan and Eric
Back in the good old days when bank managers actually knew their customers.....When an account was run over the overdraft limit...The manager would write to them and tell them he (It was always a "He" then 😀) would say he was DISAPPOINTED with the operation of the account....That about sums up the performance of the TYM....You shouldn't have to be taking an almost new tractor apart like that even if its easy to do.!! 10/10 for your positive attitude Suzann and I hope you don't have to spend any more of your time trying to fix your TYM.
The Biggest Problem for new Tractors with all kinds of Electronic circuts is when they sit out in the weather .. The Mositure screws up all of the Electronics and wiring.. I was listening to your video not watching it .. I did not see if the throttle tension bolt is too long and if you can shorten it .. put a rubber cap over put tape over it .. Run tape or split loom over your wires... I rewired my whole Lime Spreader Truck and I ran everything in Split loom used lots of tape .. I also use heater hose ect .. around wires to keep them from rubbing on anything that will wear the Insulation off.. A rough riding truck going acorss rough fields for 20,000 hours will find the bad points..
Suz the electrician now! Noicccce job with the fix with the help of Eric! Electrical issues sometimes can be no fun to trace down. Glad you're not afraid to talk about this! As you said, it's not just a TYM issue and bringing it to light might make them change it and at the very least you're going to help many others with compacts! Nice throttle fix too! Farmers often have to be mechanics too. hahaha All tractors and equipment no matter the brand name on it is going to need work and repairs eventually. They work hard for us!
Glad the TYM didn't catch fire, I was thinking it had something to do with the fuse, this was a busy weekend for Detroit Lakes, we had the Wefest county music festival going on all weekend, you'll never guess what happened to me on Friday......I got pulled over by a Minnesota state patrol, the officer told me I was going 78 mph in a 65, he let me off as a warning, I was wearing my seatbelt, looking forward to the next video Suzanne 🤘🤠👍🚜🇺🇸👮♂️🚔
Hey WT Farm Girl!👋 Hope y'all are having an awesome weekend after fixing the promblem on the TYM tractor! That's for the info! Be safe, Stay cool, and Be blessed! 😆❤👍
My tym came with 2 years Bumper to bumper and 6 years on drivetrain... I had to use warrenty on a wheel seal and it took about 1.5 weeks to get my unit back... it was covered.
I believe you should put the NH on the bale wagon and the TYM on the baler - that TYM has a lot to handle with that bale wagon full/loaded - suggestion only
I looked up the specks on the TYM 3point picks up right around 4000lbs. If we load 200x50lb bales thats a 10,000lb load. The trailer axels are placed at 60% of the deck length so in theory you have 20% of the load on the toung making it around 2000lbs for the 3 point to lift. we have only done 150 bales so far which is a 7500lb load
I am a mechanical designer and there is no way I would let a design go out where a lever could rub on a wire. That is a bad design. You can't spin that into being a problem with all tractors. That is manufacturer specific.
I didn't say this was an issue with all tractors. I said wiring issues are common with other tractors. I said the ignition issue is specific to this one.
Most of the newer model tractors Use Drive by Wire electronic throttle controls..... like your car or truck...... no mechanical link.....Is this a eletro-hydralic hydrostatic drive tractor?
If I bought one of those junk tractors for as much as they cost, I'd be making sure the dealer would be fixing it, not myself. If it doesn't come from Japan or the U S., I won't own it.
Thanks for sharing! Young lady but one thing am curious about does that trator take that daeth or dith fuel type crap that usually have the blue cap by the main fuel tank?? Just curious heard from people saying it's a pain in the butt to deal with that..lol
It does not. I think def starts around 75hp tier 4 tractors. our nh115 doesnt take def either its a 2014 model thats right before they started using def
@@ruralridez6165 hi there, oh really I wasn't to sure but I think yer right last I knew it started over 85hp but wasn't to sure. Inerways thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinions.
Not enough wiring on an 8N to start a fire. Just FYI Suz, fuses blow because there is a problem like the dead short you had, Can't just replace fuses and hope for the best. You have to find out where all of the angry electrons are going so you don't let the magic blue smoke out;-]
Sometimes when an electrical charge goes thru some thing that shuts down the engine there`s enough current to either weld arc a bearing or can arc 2 metals together probably what happened here , But having the throttle stiff now it`s possible that the silicone tube around the throttle cable melted some or softened enough to make it stiff ,The stationary throttle is more for PTO operation or full power ,Lucky you caught it but if that`s a new machine WARRANTY or recall BIGTIME!
It seemed the current caused the two nuts to tighten and if there was any lube on the cable it dissapated. The fuse prevents much more damage than that. Without the fuse it would have welded stuff together and caused melting and fires like so many other brands.
@@This1LifeWeLive Actually a silicone spray is better than WD40 -Wd will hold dust and tighten silicone spray will weather proof and lubricate each use works great on vehicle window track guides too speeds them up too
I don't think TYM needs to be bashed, for the money you can't beat them, we have New Hollands , John Deers , Massey Ferguson, Ford. the list goes on all of these are on our farm. Trust me they ALL have there problems, if you don't want problems don't own equipment
I wasn't bashing them, unless you are talking to some others who have commented on here, but my TYM is a full work hog. Small tractors have their issues, most far worse than this ;)
@@This1LifeWeLive it wasn't directed towards you . People voice there opinions (some) just because of the name . It's a pretty good tractor. I've got the 574 as well and it's tuff , amazingly strong . No ma'am I don't think your bashing the brand .
Tym actually has two motors they use. This tractor has their own motor. The Kukjie motor is one that they have been making for years and other manufacturers have been using in their machines :)
You might need a new throttle cable. If the ign switch was shorting to ground through the metal throttle cable. the plastic sheath on the throttle could have heated up and melted some, causing binding.
You Tube keeps changing how they notify people (massive pain), so go to my main page, and next to the "subscribe" button is a bell. You have to click it and select "all notifications". Then and ONLY THEN will TH-cam tell you if I ahve a video out. I guess they figure people would rather ahve YT tell them what to watch instead of the people they follow :( Good to see you!
@@This1LifeWeLive i personally shut notifications off bc i work 8hrs a day and tryna listen to music and hear 60 million notis get annoying lol but i havent watched u inna while
I have noticed that you do not keep your tractors under cover when not in use and as the TYM is not fitted with a cab rain water will run down the throttle lever and cause corrosion of the linkage . Water will eventually find its way into the electrical switches and cause problems there as well .The New Holland should be OK as it has a cab but if possible keep the TYM in the dry at night All cabless tractors have the same problem.The issue with the electrics is poor design so the switch needs moving away from the lever.
Keeping a tractor (or any machine) out of the weather when not in use is probably the single most important thing you can do to extend the life of the machine. It also makes it easier to service as every bolt and fitting isn't rusted in place. Anything will do... a canopy, lean-to, run-in barn, etc.
@@This1LifeWeLive If it was good engineering the parts would not have rubbed and caused a short. Only poor planning/engineering causes things like that.
@@waynederby4684 from what others who have bought them recently have said, the issue has since been fixed. It's not a common issue simply because most people use the for throttle not the hand throttle when switching quickly between slow and fast... that's why the foot throttle was created. My husband has been using the hand throttle running bales back and forth on the field... that's several hours worth of yanking thechand throttle back and forth. It COULD be a common issue on other brands too, but I imagine most people know to use the foot throttle when running hours on end 😉. After I asked him why he was not using the foot throttle, he started using it and found its much faster. But he's not used to running tractors all day. Clutches burn out too when improperly used... doesn't mean they are poorly engineered, just means the driver needs to be more gentle 😉.
@@This1LifeWeLive Point taken. As for clutches, do you know how old the clutch design is?? Very old and is a poor design by today's standards. When automatics started to become more popular they had already stopped trying to develop a better clutch system and concentrated on automatic, hydrostatic etc. So while clutches do work and fairly well they are a poor engineered design by what is being currently developed. It's one of the few things that if it aint broke don't fix it actually applies. But they could develop better engineered if the wanted to but the vast majority of people want auto or hydro type transmissions that requires less physical involvement. FYI personally I'm a clutch person. Both my 3/4 ton truck, and my tractor are manual transmission which is one way I know that although I prefer them they are a old and poor design that still works. :)
"You are probably here bc you have a wiring issue". Nope, I saw a hot farm girl in my suggestions, so naturally I clicked. My JD 5210 never had that problem bc the ignition is nowhere near the hand throttle
We've had a few with our T5 . . .PTO refusing to engage, transmission "jumping" (could be a fuel pump issue or hydro pump issue) and it's been getting stuck in gear (my husband isn't the cleanest shifter). But this TYM has a very basic motor, so IF something motorwise should ever go wrong, it's something I could repair myself and not have to haul down to the shop :)
I belive it was lubricating oil, but PBBlaster is the brand. I don't recall exactly what it's called, I went to buy oil one day and grabbed one of each, lol! White lithium tends to leave a thick white grease behind and I was afriad that would gum things up.
@@This1LifeWeLive that design error was so easily avoided the tractor company should be ashamed. Guess relocating the ignition switch or doing something with the bolt on the throttle is an option.
Yes, I notified both of my points of contact before beginning repair work (in case they wanted to send someone out lickity split). After reading a bit about eletrical issues online with OTHER manufacturers (I wanted to see if this was a TYM specific issue or if anyoen else had posted online about it), I didn't see anyone else posting about TYM but all other manufacturers they DID. So I felt confident that this was an issue MANY people face with smaller tractors, and as mentioned, most end up catching fire thanks to no fuse.
WD-40 and PB blaster are both brands which make the same oils and lubes. I prefer PB. I have 3 different types but can't remember the names off the top of my head, so WD-40 just rolls off the tongue much faster :P
@@This1LifeWeLive you're probably thinking of chain and cable lube. There's even a cheap little tool designed to aid in lubing cables with products that come in spray cans. But more importantly you really need to watch what you say in these videos. People can and will will take you literally, and when something goes wrong they'll tell everyone they learned it from you. Not everyone reads the comments section to see your corrections. You said to use PB blaster on everyone's mini tractor throttle cable. That's really bad advice since original PB blaster literally eats petroleum products like plastic, rubber, tar etc.
If I had to do all that to a brand new tractor I would be some pissed. Major design flaw. Also-remember, WD40 is not a lubricant. It's meant to prevent rust formation.
I know you have TYM as a sponsor, and you must tell people how great they are because they have a fuse, but it seems to me that if they know this is a problem, and it sure seems that at least their field techs do, then it should not be a problem to move the ignition switch. That switch can be anywhere on the panel, get it out of the way of the moving parts.
I agree with Stephen! TYM should recall them, it's great that Eric called and got the advice from the dealer and got it working again with a fuse. That hay trailer looks good.
lucky thats why kubotas are reliable wich im looking at quit few kubotas wich they have great 2023 sales on them
TYM should make a recall on the dash cover to relocate the switch or a different switch. Stay sweet
would be easy to move switch over 1/2 inch ... design flaw for sure
We just ordered this same tractor. Supposed to be delivered this week. I sure hope we don't have too much trouble with it. I've heard they are good machines
The issues have been user error 100%. It also had (has) an issue where it will get 'stuck" in gear . . . Erik swore up and down that it was the TYM's fault. I pointed out his shifting is dirty and he never drives the NH. He drove the NH this fall and lo and behold . . . it DID THE SAME THING. I grew up on clutch and stick, that's all we had, so it's second nature to me. Tractors don't like to shift over bumps, or go from low to high gear "on the fly". The TYM I was able to jiggle loose by driving fast over a bumpy field and carefully shifting gears (bumping it loose). I'm hoping the fix for the NH is just as easy, or my hay season is going to be in SERIOUS trouble :(
But I talked to another sub who mentioned his TYM has a different dash and the sales guy said they had modified the design since our tractor. So whe n yours comes, look at it carefully and compare it to mine. if the spacing looks similar, you'll want to access the throttle lever and either cut the bolt shorts or wrap it. But I don't think many will have this issue. Most know to use the foot throttle ;)
@@This1LifeWeLive Thanks for the information. I also realized ours is hydrostatic, so I assume this will be a non issue. I should probably check the throttle and ignition switch. I appreciate the video and heads up. Seems like a great machine so far. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Wow that's just some seriously good down to earth Intel for tractor owners. And if you can't get it yourself I guess I could imagine the hourly Shop rate at your local dealer. Thanks for the info have a good weekend
No problem 😊 I took our baler into the shop one year, $150 per hour! More if they have to travel to you 😣
Don't rely on tape to cure that situation. Get a shorter bolt or if possible reverse the bolt and use a self locking nut to secure the Hand Function of the Throttle on its' pivot. Use zip ties if possible to hold wiring clear of moving parts or contact points.
we may take it back apart and see if we can get the nuts/bolt shortened or adjusted differently :)
A big rivet or two
My thought is some type of sleeve or shield between them.
That is a design flaw that should have been corrected to allow spacing for the parts to prevent rubbing. I am surprised that TYM did not cover this under warranty. I have had problems with Tractors before and usually the manufacturer will have you bring it in and they will fix the error of free. Yes I lost time taking it in but they provided a loaner to complete my job while they worked on the tractor.
We don't have a trailer, and often it can take time for them to get a driver out to get it. It was much faster for us to pull it open and make the repair :)
@@This1LifeWeLive I love you 😘💕❤️
Thanks for the headsup, I have TYM 494, no issues so far.
Man, that's just some good old-fashioned troubleshooting to boot! Thanks
My TYM 234 HST has 750 hours on it. I've had the front loader arms crack off twice. I added steel and bracing to the tractor and so far, so good. The backhoe separated from the tractor the first hour of use, and then I welded up a new bracket to attack it to the rear center pin. Now it stays on. During use, 3 of the bearing posts of the backhoe failed and I welded them back on with additional metal, which has worked well so far. The rear upper attachment of the backhoe to the transmission then broke into little pieces, I had to weld up a beefer bracket. At 700 hours, the main frame cracked and the tractor about folded in half, and cracked the plastic seat surround (the body as in were that in most tractors is steel) was destroyed. Total parts are $2500 to restore it to service. I did all the work. took me about 50 yours total to disassemble and reassemble the unit. I am done with TYM products. This machine could have killed me more than a few times, I feel lucky. I am going to unload this thing as soon as I can find a buyer.
Great post. While I did not have this happen to me, my dealer contacted me about 4 months after it was delivered to say that an issue had been discovered and he wanted to make a preemptive modification to the console. The switch was moved a bit to the right and a different size bolt was attached to the throttle lever, under warranty. My dealer also has shown me how to access areas of the tractor in the hope of having the machine not go out of service with a problem that I can rectify. I'm impressed with both my TYMs(4) and my dealer. Love your channel. I was first introduced to the TYM brand when you first took delivery of your TYM.
I'm glad you are loving them! I have NO complaints on mine. She even starts RIGHT UP in the sub zero temps! I couldn't even do that with my John Deere . . . thing had to be plugged in all the time!
@@This1LifeWeLive Like your experience, I've had no problems starting any of my TYMs this January and it's been an old fashion eastern Canadian January..... lots of snow and numerous days were it's been below zero Fahrenheit. The machines are stored in an uninsulated tractor shed. They all have electric battery blankets and get plugged in when the temperature goes below -10 Celsius. I find that by doing that, batteries last between 13-15 years. None of my tractor friends get that kind of longevity from their batteries, but none use battery blankets. Stay safe.
@@stevenandrews6627 I've never heard of a battery blanket, what a cool idea!
@@This1LifeWeLive I assume that they aren't that common in your parts because it doesn't get as frigid down in your neck of the woods. Up here, they're more helpful than block heaters. It's actually a vehicle's battery that takes a pounding in frigid weather. I've admired your work ethic and tenacity with your desire to make a success with your farm.
Good job on figuring out the issues. When lubing throttle linkage I would recommend a product like LPS 1 it's a greaseless lube that won't attract dirt.
Thankyou!
The one thing I can say about the smaller tractors is they tend to vibrate stuff loose. I almost found out the hard way to take a set of wrenches and sockets and re-tighten every single nut and bolt you can find after about a month of working it during the break in period!
That's similar to what my son said about the cheap new Chinese motorcycles and quads a few years back. The neighborhood kids would all enjoy them for a day or whatever then my son and another dad would go through and retighten everything for next time. Sounded like a big PITA but I suppose the kids had fun anyway, lol.
It's called loktite
I'm been working on 184 cub lo boy lawn mower for 20 years now, I've re-engineer the electric pto belts tensioner instead of the junk spring that keeps tension on it and as of present I'm working the throttle cable from dash controller to governor arm which should have been a steel push rod of a quarter inch thickness to push governor arm back instead of a cheap steel push/pull cable because with yours any moisture gets inside of throttle cable that lays on hot engine has tendency to rust up and bind up a engineer flaw design, case closed,see you on the next videos 📹 :)
Good to know I'm not the only one fixing stuff ;D
That's a great design. Have the throttle rub against the wiring to test the fuses. What they dont think of. Have a great day.
Funny! LOL!
Happy to see you got it sorted! A little note of concern , do not keep both keys together- you lose one you lose them both. Happy Day to you and family!
Good thing to note! Although we only have one for the New Holland :(
Good info , All they need to do is relocate the key switch a half an inch to the right in the wire won’t rub drill a round hole with a holesaw bit over a little further and stick it through the hole if possible,, Nice looking tractor they have good reviews I guess they make them worldwide
So it is a TYM design flaw. There needs to be hard insulation around the switch or it needs to be moved to a new location.
Either or. A friend told me about their New Holland at work caught on fire TWICE due to eletrical issues . . .
You might be able to do a wrap or two of electrical tape around the ignition switch if there is enough room. Farmers who own will sometimes relocate the switch completely.
I see this video as a pro, to the tractors overall design. It's literally simple enough that the average owner can repair it with basic troubleshooting. If it were a different color tractor and you pushed a button or flipped a switch and nothing happened I don't think your day would go anywhere near this smooth.
Exactly, and that's why I made the video on it. :)
Glad you got it going. If you want to you can take a hole saw and move the switch over a little bit. Take care and have a blessed week and I'll see you on your next vidja.
I would try getting some dry-slide on those cables. WD-40 might damage the rubber, I'm not sure about PB Blaster. Dry-slide is a graphite powder that should last a long time.
I'll look for some next time I'm at the store :)
I can tell you from experience not to use PB blaster on anything rubber or thin plastic, it will eat right through it. PB blaster is penetrating oil, only use it on rusted nuts and bolts, never as lube.
With a hydrostatic tractor you don’t throttle near as much - use hydro to speed up or down much friendlier for loader baler etc work my opinions - used hydro 100 Ihc for mowing baling chopping silage for years good luck
Glad you figured it out , it took alot of time , stay safe , enjoy !
it took a bit to troubleshoot but the repair was pretty straight forward :D
unplug the wire, heat shrink it then put some split loom over it
And since you're from Michigan slather all of it in dielectric grease for corrosion, lol
I see lots of issues on youtube with tym tractors. Looks like a design flaw, they put a fuse in to stop the tractor shorting out and possibly causing a fire. They appear to know the hand throttle will damage the wires running to the ignition switch, it would be safer to redesign the hand throttle.
I have had a few viewers comment back to me that they bought one and TYM HAS since moved the throttle lever over. The fuses are there for ANY sort of wiring issue, which I;ve read happens commonly in small tractors. But most tractors don't have the safety fuse and catch on fire instead . . .
My wife has not had that problem on her 3038E JD that is 9 years old. I am thinking that TYM just put the switch in the wrong place or routed the wires incorrectly. Really C-IH and JD are the only two viable tractors to use and make a profit farming. One guy tried to do it with NH equipment and finally traded in all in on C-IH equipment. It is good that TYM helped you with the problem.
Was thinking did short weld throttle some? Maybe they design newpanel dash. Move switch over a bit.
Ya we think it got the cable hot and siezed it up.
Things do go wrong! Machinery break! Great vid, hang in there!
The problem with spraying stuff on those cables (even lubricant) is they can now freeze in extremely cold weather. I learned this the hard way.
I always love simple fixes 🙂
no kidding! 😄
Can the bolt be taken out of the throttle and turned around and the nut put on the other side?
I will have to check!
Good Monday morning to you all from Wellington Somerset in the UK
Your not just sweet Your also smart ,love your videos
Thankyou!
Great job wiring enjoyed video keep them coming. You guys are great thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
I just picked up a t474 cab and love it. I went over the whole thing when I got it relocating and securing wiring as well as hydraulic lines. Looks like I'll be messing with this tomorrow. Edit* I looked and my throttle cable is at least an inch away from the ignition switch. Dash is identical looking but there must be some differences I guess.
Good to know! Maybe mine was a fluke! I almost went with the 474, but it came down to weight and being able to handle a load of hay with the grapple. The 574 is JUST big enough! I LOVE how tight they can turn and so nimble!
@@This1LifeWeLive so far in the 22 hours I have on it I can't complain about much. Lift capacity on the loader is awesome! Tractor is nice and compact so it fits my needs just right. Only think I wish it had was a parking light for the parking brake.
I've had the 433 for over ten years. No issues with this so far. Dash looks identical.
Be aware if you put a dark tarp over it though, it will melt the gauge cluster frame... 😕
Great video and I'm glad you got the tractor running again. We are looking into maybe getting a TYM T754.
A 754 or a 574? lol! I had been eye-balling the 474 because it would be more pasture sized, but I'm so glad for the 574! It's a great all around do everything size!
@@This1LifeWeLive LOL, No, I meant the T754, but I was looking at the T574 and the T654, but with the things we are doing and the things we want to start to do around here, the T754 will work out better. But then again, I am also looking at the Mahindra 6075, which is about the same size as the TYM T754
Love your channel .I am glad to be back ❤️ You look great 👍 Have a great day 🙂 Ken NC
WT Farm Girl, Don't include all small Tractors with a faulty TYM Design.
Im sure each brand his a flaw here and there... but moving switch 1/4" over would fix this one...
When the throttle shorted out that 40 amp circuit, it is like an arc welder welding the throttle into position. If you can't move the screw, maybe you could grind it down. You could cut a strip of some type of flexible plastic, wrap it several times around the ignition switch wiring and tape around that. Try covering the throttle screw with something too.
I was a believer in cable lubricant with graphite or teflon in it. Hope your method doesn't thicken up and become difficult to move.
I use what I ahve on hand, but sounds like I will need to look for cable lube :)
Great video. Thanks for the info. Glad it was a simple fix for ya. Be safe.
Thankyou!
Love my kubota mx 5000, manual shift, no issues.
dogs are the best.
i never work the throttle back and forth i set it and use the tractor that speed why dont you use the foot throttle and bypass the problem with the hand one?
Exactly. Erik doesn't normally run tractors, and this was the first time running one with the grapple system. After the repair I told him about the foot throttle, and he has been suing that since :)
Interesting find! Most modern tractors have a ton of safety fuses compared to older tractors ….even more so with EFI tractors .
That issue of the wire rubbing would be a YTM problem….not all tractors would necessarily have that issue due to the location of the ignition switch and throttle lever!
Nice find tho ….it does help a lot when a specific fuse blows to isolate the circuit faster!
I would also use a chain lube or some sort of lube that won’t dry up so fast….PB blaster dries up pretty fast …few days and it will be just about gone!
I was gonna make a comment when you were demonstrating the 2 throttle operations about how gritting and notchy the linkage appeared to be and could use some lube….but watching the full video you were on it….😊
Sorry it broke all those have some issues . they BUILD to fast , stay SAFE girl
I'm glad it happened now, it gave me the chance to learn a bit more about how tractors work ;)
Good stuff Suzanne and Erik:):)
If I am seeing correctly the double nuts are on the ignition switch side. Turn the bolt around if you can to put the bolt head on the ignition switch side. That will move it away from the switch as it will not stick out nearly as far.
If the bolt is attached, made into, the throttle just use a single nylock nut and trim off the excess bolt length.
I do agree it is an issue that could be fixed, and with them being newer to the tractor market they might be more open to a re design. MANY tractors have design flaws that never get repaired. I know new holland has a known issue with their clutch cable line being too tight... and they won't cover the repair under warranty. This issue isn't normally something most people face on this tractor because they would normally have a hydrostatic tractor. And this is what the foot throttle is for, lol!
That's a great idea!!
My main power is a 800 series Ford. About 6 or so wires in the harness and after about 65 years of running most of the bugs are worked out! LOL
But yes on the newer anything there are problems galore. 99% of problems I have diagnosed boil down to wiring from loose connections to broken wires. A good multimeter is a lifesaver. A test light will tell you current is present, a meter tells you how much is there.
When I started turning wrenches years ago I never thought those items would be the most important in my tool box.
@@lesmiller1739 I have a 69 year old 8n never had a wiring issue and this tractor has been used hard.
And parts for the old Fords are readily avaliable. They were made to last for sure, no plastic.
Hi, farm girl. I'm curious if you are beginning to like the hay grapple? I'm really thinking about getting one. It's hard to find people that wanna help load hay out of the field
Im starting to like it but there a different way to use it that the manufacture doesnt show.
There are LOTS of other grapple makers out there. It's a good idea, but I would NOT recommend the Maxilator. I think Parrish makes one too that will collect bales. The specs are different on all of the different makers, and Maxilator has the least sensible specs. Even in their own production videos they show the product as a massive fail. Check out Parrish!
I just talked to Kuhn's yesterday at the Penn State Ag progress show they seem to have it figured out but very pricy set up. About $30,000 for everything
This is Paul from Ohio and I really like your new/ used tractor and I just joined your channel and I really like it alot and please enter me in your hat contest, and you.
Awesome, thank you!
You know Suzanne, troubleshooting electrical problems never looked so good until now. Okay, I know Eric had a part and yeah, he may have had an integral part in figuring it out but just "think" about how more effective his work is because you make it look so good! j/k All due respects to the hubs and enjoy your content! ;-)
Well he figured out what to check, but I pulled it all apart and did the work (just ran out of battery power to show it)
@@This1LifeWeLive Always a pleasure... :D
Great information. Thank you. Future problems solved.
You bet!
The same fuses blew out on my 2655 Mahindra, as the result of leaving my pto switch on , and turning the key off. Watch your tach, it may read wrong.
Interesting! I'll keep an eye on that!
Hey wt farm girl love watching your channel alot every day u are awesome TH-camr and the pretty woman on your channel keep up the amazing work say safe and healthy with your family i hope this will get better soon so we can get back to normal life soon u are my favorite TH-camr 😀
What happened to the basket wagon you pulled behind the baler?
UGGGHHH.., it's a massive PAIN! It only holds 100 bales MAX (usually 80), you need a team of people to get it done. One to bale, one to drive the truck to the barn, and one in the loft to help stack. Dumping them on the ground made a huge mess, and anything the knotter skipped or failed, the cart would be FULL of loose hay! Lots of people out here still use them, but they usually have family helping ;)
@@This1LifeWeLive I never understood there value. You need one of those things that put the bales in blocks of 10 or so for your hooks to pick up.
Sounds like a design flaw by TYM and it's TYM specific issue. I guess it's pretty common which is why dealer knew exactly what's going on.
Metal against metal or electrical, its a mini welder or burns that cable when shorted for the brief second its there and it sounds like it happened many times in trouble shooting at least and each time heated that cable when short occurs. The metal wire leading to the throttle is getting worse and worse and will break right where this short occurs. So file that little metal wire just enough to smooth it out. If that cable (throttle) is discolored, get a new one as it will snap off at the worst time ever. I would move that switch over the little distance it takes to make it clear the problem. Hopefully it will move a full distance away from the factory hole and then use a blank for the hole left where that switch was. You will find covers at NAPA on those swivel self help stands or even on their wall. They make them for people who toss the cigarette lighter holes. Hopefully this helps you Susan and Eric
Back in the good old days when bank managers actually knew their customers.....When an account was run over the overdraft limit...The manager would write to them and tell them he (It was always a "He" then 😀) would say he was DISAPPOINTED with the operation of the account....That about sums up the performance of the TYM....You shouldn't have to be taking an almost new tractor apart like that even if its easy to do.!! 10/10 for your positive attitude Suzann and I hope you don't have to spend any more of your time trying to fix your TYM.
It was an easy fix, and a good chance to learn a new skill ;)
The Biggest Problem for new Tractors with all kinds of Electronic circuts is when they sit out in the weather .. The Mositure screws up all of the Electronics and wiring..
I was listening to your video not watching it .. I did not see if the throttle tension bolt is too long and if you can shorten it .. put a rubber cap over put tape over it .. Run tape or split loom over your wires...
I rewired my whole Lime Spreader Truck and I ran everything in Split loom used lots of tape .. I also use heater hose ect .. around wires to keep them from rubbing on anything that will wear the Insulation off..
A rough riding truck going acorss rough fields for 20,000 hours will find the bad points..
Suz the electrician now! Noicccce job with the fix with the help of Eric! Electrical issues sometimes can be no fun to trace down. Glad you're not afraid to talk about this! As you said, it's not just a TYM issue and bringing it to light might make them change it and at the very least you're going to help many others with compacts! Nice throttle fix too! Farmers often have to be mechanics too. hahaha All tractors and equipment no matter the brand name on it is going to need work and repairs eventually. They work hard for us!
agreed!
Glad the TYM didn't catch fire, I was thinking it had something to do with the fuse, this was a busy weekend for Detroit Lakes, we had the Wefest county music festival going on all weekend, you'll never guess what happened to me on Friday......I got pulled over by a Minnesota state patrol, the officer told me I was going 78 mph in a 65, he let me off as a warning, I was wearing my seatbelt, looking forward to the next video Suzanne 🤘🤠👍🚜🇺🇸👮♂️🚔
Oh gosh! You certainly got lucky!!!
Hey WT Farm Girl!👋 Hope y'all are having an awesome weekend after fixing the promblem on the TYM tractor! That's for the info! Be safe, Stay cool, and Be blessed! 😆❤👍
Getting there slowly, lol!
whe have had only newholland but smal or big they al have those big fuse for the ignision just after the batery
Looking good be safe
Don’t they have some kind of warranty on their tractors? I got a 3 year on a Husqvarna
Yes they do, but I didn't have time to wait for repairs.
My tym came with 2 years Bumper to bumper and 6 years on drivetrain... I had to use warrenty on a wheel seal and it took about 1.5 weeks to get my unit back... it was covered.
So, how did you fix and prevent that shorted wire issue so it doesn’t happen again?
I wrapped everything and re-positioned it a bit so it's not so close :)
I believe you should put the NH on the bale wagon and the TYM on the baler - that TYM has a lot to handle with that bale wagon full/loaded - suggestion only
I looked up the specks on the TYM 3point picks up right around 4000lbs. If we load 200x50lb bales thats a 10,000lb load. The trailer axels are placed at 60% of the deck length so in theory you have 20% of the load on the toung making it around 2000lbs for the 3 point to lift. we have only done 150 bales so far which is a 7500lb load
I was done after, we blew two fuses and we had 12volts on one side but not the other.. 😂😂
Crazy and how many hours are on it ?
Viewed 8-8-21 2:40 PM from Illinois Hi Suz, Good diagnose on the part of both of you :-))
Thank you!
I am a mechanical designer and there is no way I would let a design go out where a lever could rub on a wire. That is a bad design. You can't spin that into being a problem with all tractors. That is manufacturer specific.
I didn't say this was an issue with all tractors. I said wiring issues are common with other tractors. I said the ignition issue is specific to this one.
Most of the newer model tractors Use Drive by Wire electronic throttle controls..... like your car or truck...... no mechanical link.....Is this a eletro-hydralic hydrostatic drive tractor?
It is gear driven. and you have to clutch to go from fwd to rev. our new holland you can go from fwd to rev without clutching
This one is made more old school to save on possible repair points. So no electric throttle control :)
@@ruralridez6165 Really.... our 5075M JD has that kind of Trans where as the 5115M and the 6145R have the power reverser
If I bought one of those junk tractors for as much as they cost, I'd be making sure the dealer would be fixing it, not myself. If it doesn't come from Japan or the U S., I won't own it.
Totally awesome learning video
I definitely LEARNED A LOT! And now I'm not afraid to remove the dash of a tractor :D
Thanks for sharing! Young lady but one thing am curious about does that trator take that daeth or dith fuel type crap that usually have the blue cap by the main fuel tank?? Just curious heard from people saying it's a pain in the butt to deal with that..lol
It does not. I think def starts around 75hp tier 4 tractors. our nh115 doesnt take def either its a 2014 model thats right before they started using def
@@ruralridez6165 hi there, oh really I wasn't to sure but I think yer right last I knew it started over 85hp but wasn't to sure. Inerways thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinions.
Seems like TYM should move the if I switch over about 1/4 inch and problem solved.
I think they did. From what others who have told me, they said their switch was in a totally different place.
Not enough wiring on an 8N to start a fire. Just FYI Suz, fuses blow because there is a problem like the dead short you had, Can't just replace fuses and hope for the best. You have to find out where all of the angry electrons are going so you don't let the magic blue smoke out;-]
Sometimes when an electrical charge goes thru some thing that shuts down the engine there`s enough current to either weld arc a bearing or can arc 2 metals together probably what happened here , But having the throttle stiff now it`s possible that the silicone tube around the throttle cable melted some or softened enough to make it stiff ,The stationary throttle is more for PTO operation or full power ,Lucky you caught it but if that`s a new machine WARRANTY or recall BIGTIME!
It seemed the current caused the two nuts to tighten and if there was any lube on the cable it dissapated. The fuse prevents much more damage than that. Without the fuse it would have welded stuff together and caused melting and fires like so many other brands.
@@This1LifeWeLive Actually a silicone spray is better than WD40 -Wd will hold dust and tighten silicone spray will weather proof and lubricate each use works great on vehicle window track guides too speeds them up too
That is great that there was a fuse in line. Looks. Like a design flaw. It is not good. If it me I would have drilled another hole for the switch.
Place a vacuum cap over the bolt and a small diameter piece of hose over the wire
This will help to prevent a future problem
nice idea!
I don't think TYM needs to be bashed, for the money you can't beat them, we have New Hollands , John Deers , Massey Ferguson, Ford. the list goes on all of these are on our farm. Trust me they ALL have there problems, if you don't want problems don't own equipment
I wasn't bashing them, unless you are talking to some others who have commented on here, but my TYM is a full work hog. Small tractors have their issues, most far worse than this ;)
@@This1LifeWeLive it wasn't directed towards you . People voice there opinions (some) just because of the name . It's a pretty good tractor. I've got the 574 as well and it's tuff , amazingly strong . No ma'am I don't think your bashing the brand .
You may have to follow you wire to see if there is a broken wire somewhere or bare wire or inline fuse wire
If that's the biggest problem you ever have with that tractor you don't have much to worry about.
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Lol that's right.
Good to see ya buddy! Looking forward to your hunting season ;D
Had a friend had one he liked it
Me I want a Kubota tractor
Tym has a Kubota motor
Tym actually has two motors they use. This tractor has their own motor. The Kukjie motor is one that they have been making for years and other manufacturers have been using in their machines :)
You might need a new throttle cable. If the ign switch was shorting to ground through the metal throttle cable. the plastic sheath on the throttle could have heated up and melted some, causing binding.
I didn't see anything obvious, but it did help when I ran a bit of lube into it :)
Was that a sandhill crane babbling in background at 8:58?
😂😂😂 probably was! We have lots of them out here!
Im here bc i havent seen a video from u inna while
You Tube keeps changing how they notify people (massive pain), so go to my main page, and next to the "subscribe" button is a bell. You have to click it and select "all notifications". Then and ONLY THEN will TH-cam tell you if I ahve a video out. I guess they figure people would rather ahve YT tell them what to watch instead of the people they follow :(
Good to see you!
@@This1LifeWeLive i personally shut notifications off bc i work 8hrs a day and tryna listen to music and hear 60 million notis get annoying lol but i havent watched u inna while
I have noticed that you do not keep your tractors under cover when not in use and as the TYM is not fitted with a cab rain water will run down the throttle lever and cause corrosion of the linkage . Water will eventually find its way into the electrical switches and cause problems there as well .The New Holland should be OK as it has a cab but if possible keep the TYM in the dry at night All cabless tractors have the same problem.The issue with the electrics is poor design so the switch needs moving away from the lever.
Keeping a tractor (or any machine) out of the weather when not in use is probably the single most important thing you can do to extend the life of the machine. It also makes it easier to service as every bolt and fitting isn't rusted in place. Anything will do... a canopy, lean-to, run-in barn, etc.
Just more reason's to stay away from newer tractors !😊😁👍👍
Boy do I hear you on that one 👍
Old ones have their issues as well :) Erik's tractor isn't running, and not because he's choosing not to drive it ;)
@@This1LifeWeLive just depends on the tractor 😊
Poor engineering. I looked at a 574 and decided on another brand. Glad I did. Thanks for being honest !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What didn't you like about the engineering?
@@This1LifeWeLive If it was good engineering the parts would not have rubbed and caused a short. Only poor planning/engineering causes things like that.
@@waynederby4684 from what others who have bought them recently have said, the issue has since been fixed. It's not a common issue simply because most people use the for throttle not the hand throttle when switching quickly between slow and fast... that's why the foot throttle was created. My husband has been using the hand throttle running bales back and forth on the field... that's several hours worth of yanking thechand throttle back and forth. It COULD be a common issue on other brands too, but I imagine most people know to use the foot throttle when running hours on end 😉. After I asked him why he was not using the foot throttle, he started using it and found its much faster. But he's not used to running tractors all day. Clutches burn out too when improperly used... doesn't mean they are poorly engineered, just means the driver needs to be more gentle 😉.
@@This1LifeWeLive Point taken. As for clutches, do you know how old the clutch design is?? Very old and is a poor design by today's standards. When automatics started to become more popular they had already stopped trying to develop a better clutch system and concentrated on automatic, hydrostatic etc. So while clutches do work and fairly well they are a poor engineered design by what is being currently developed. It's one of the few things that if it aint broke don't fix it actually applies. But they could develop better engineered if the wanted to but the vast majority of people want auto or hydro type transmissions that requires less physical involvement. FYI personally I'm a clutch person. Both my 3/4 ton truck, and my tractor are manual transmission which is one way I know that although I prefer them they are a old and poor design that still works. :)
"You are probably here bc you have a wiring issue". Nope, I saw a hot farm girl in my suggestions, so naturally I clicked. My JD 5210 never had that problem bc the ignition is nowhere near the hand throttle
Glad there weren’t any fires
Nope! Eventhough there may have abeen a slight flaw in the design on the ignition, at least the engineers thought ahead to install safety fuses!
Ran New Holland tractors now for many years and never had any problems.
We've had a few with our T5 . . .PTO refusing to engage, transmission "jumping" (could be a fuel pump issue or hydro pump issue) and it's been getting stuck in gear (my husband isn't the cleanest shifter). But this TYM has a very basic motor, so IF something motorwise should ever go wrong, it's something I could repair myself and not have to haul down to the shop :)
Very good use of youtube I would have used lithium grease spray or a teflon based spray myself. WD40 will evaporate and PB is corrosive.
I belive it was lubricating oil, but PBBlaster is the brand. I don't recall exactly what it's called, I went to buy oil one day and grabbed one of each, lol! White lithium tends to leave a thick white grease behind and I was afriad that would gum things up.
@@This1LifeWeLive that design error was so easily avoided the tractor company should be ashamed. Guess relocating the ignition switch or doing something with the bolt on the throttle is an option.
Did you check with TYM before you posted this video? They might not be too happy.
We are not bashing TYM. This is why its good to use these tractors in real world use then the company can use this helpful information.
Yes, I notified both of my points of contact before beginning repair work (in case they wanted to send someone out lickity split). After reading a bit about eletrical issues online with OTHER manufacturers (I wanted to see if this was a TYM specific issue or if anyoen else had posted online about it), I didn't see anyone else posting about TYM but all other manufacturers they DID. So I felt confident that this was an issue MANY people face with smaller tractors, and as mentioned, most end up catching fire thanks to no fuse.
Wd-40 = lubricant
PB blaster = rust penetrant.
WD-40 and PB blaster are both brands which make the same oils and lubes. I prefer PB. I have 3 different types but can't remember the names off the top of my head, so WD-40 just rolls off the tongue much faster :P
@@This1LifeWeLive you're probably thinking of chain and cable lube. There's even a cheap little tool designed to aid in lubing cables with products that come in spray cans. But more importantly you really need to watch what you say in these videos. People can and will will take you literally, and when something goes wrong they'll tell everyone they learned it from you. Not everyone reads the comments section to see your corrections. You said to use PB blaster on everyone's mini tractor throttle cable. That's really bad advice since original PB blaster literally eats petroleum products like plastic, rubber, tar etc.
Yep, that's the quality design I expect from imported crap.
First to watch excellent video.. or should i say sorry it broke
It was a good learning experience!
If I had to do all that to a brand new tractor I would be some pissed. Major design flaw. Also-remember, WD40 is not a lubricant. It's meant to prevent rust formation.
Maybe that's why we don't have any on hand, lol! We use PB Blaster :)
Sounds like warranty work to fix