I had brain surgery for sub arachnoid hemorrhage 9 months ago, I spent 10 days in the hospital 4 of which in the ICU, and after getting released I've had all the cognitive function tests and epilepsy tests and 3 follow up CT scans. Now I'm in the clear and fully healed with no brain damage, and all in all the cost to me was the equivalent of around 400 dollars, including meds and everything, and I only had to pay half of that. Man I'm glad I was born in Finland.
@@felixphilippe7224 Sure as shit didn't feel like harry potter anything, when I suffered with my brain bleeding for 5 days thinking it was migraine at first, then called the ambulance on the fifth day, was already so out of it that I can't remember anything else than hearing the sirens and seeing the lights.
Texas born American here. I would have rather died. I never would have financially recovered from that. It sounds like it was incredibly painful and I’m glad you’re doing better but I honestly would have rather died than dealt with those bills afterward
Ah, I remember that touching Bible story when the blind man came to Jesus asking him to be healed and Jesus said "Uh, no, having eyes is actually a pre-existing condition, sorry, you don't qualify for healing"
Noting that you brought up the BBB, it should be made pretty clear that the BBB is not a government organization, and a company can wipe their record on that site simply by paying "fines". In other words, it's basically a more official sounding yelp with more corruption. Perhaps you should do an episode on them.
Yes!!! An episode on the BBB would be awesome! I hate when people tell me to complain to the BBB. I tell them that it does NOTHING other than put a complaint online. It means nothing.
Customers think the BBB is a policing agency, it is not. "I'm going to get the BBB after you." Thank god they didn't leave a bad google review that would be worse
Oh Kenneth, being Christian isn't about being Christ-like. The entire religion is based on the premise that you can never live up to Jesus' standard, so just make sure you say you're sorry for being a loser at least once a week, and everything will be fine.
@@kelsiparker7990 I do hope that when all kits are bought, the money will be used to buy off medical debt. (Like the money that went to Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption ended up donated to Doctors Without Borders)
It's so inherently classist and ableist to tie insurance to employment. It's essentially saying that if you don't work, you don't deserve to live. Everyone deserves health care.
Also soooo extra fucked up when you consider which demographics are more likely to have less stable employment (aka be employed as casuals rather than permanent/part-time contracts) - students, working mothers, retirees doing casual work to make ends meet, people recently released from prison, people with chronic health conditions, young people in general..... also just, increasingly large portions of the general workforce due to mass-casualisation... but there's no harm in that! Right? Right? Not like that would allow massive for-profit companies to wipe their hands of all responsibilities to their employees if there was say..... a pandemic or something
@@ExPwner Well, sort of. The whole point of capitalism is that you don't get paid the full value of your work, just what you can negotiate. So there is a portion of that labor that the worker is not compensated for, which goes to the company.
When you pay $1200/mo for insurance for a small family and end up paying still $8000 out of pocket for a broken arm that only needed a cast, you start to consider what else is out there. My wife asked the hospital what the cost would have been without insurance to which they replied "$3000." So, it is definitely a broken system.
@@moretac You still need to pay both because an HCSM is not going to negotiate a $1,000,000 bill on chemotherapy that someone like aflac can do. So.. are you really still saving money?
@@justinb498 Absolutely. I've made multiple claims on my health care sharing ministry and have saved tons of money compared to when I had commercial insurance. And if I ever did have something catastrophic my out-of-pocket is capped immensely lower than it would have been with commercial insurance.
When you see "Florida man" remember Florida has very specific laws that enable and encourage lazy journalists to poke fun at any "criminal" (police lie, this is known but rarely actually said. Importantly, it doesn't actually matter in this case, these stories shamelessly air people's dirty laundry for click bait) who probably has serious unaddressed substance abuse and/or mental health problems. It's also worth noting Florida has a serious problem with homelessness. Journalists basically have free reign to look at any police report filed in the state and air it to the public for a cheap easy story, and, for some reason, this is never explained as a failure on the part of Florida to care for people's mental health, substance abuse, or other reasons they may have a mental breakdown (such as extreme poverty). The politicians have no excuse and journalists should be using "Florida man" to point out how politicians failed Florida, not how "Florida man bad, mmkay"
"Christians" - you know like that story in the bible where Jesus refused to heal a non Christian. Oh no, wait, the religious leaders told him to deny healing to a non Christian Roman and he scolded them, then healed the Roman anyways. I can see how that story is confusing.
@@RbNetEngr Yes, but "Christians" aren't Christians either. The quotes are important. Most "Christians" are just looking for forgiveness for what they just did the day before, and will do again tomorrow, and know that there IS a Bible, but don't know what's in it.
Jesus was a religious radical who wanted to alter the dominant religion and railed against wealth while endorsing support for all. He was literally a radical liberal socialist. Any sensible American conservative would want to see Jesus burn in hell.
@@tirsden There is plenty of historical evidence that Jesus did, in fact, exist. Whether or not you believe him to be the son of god and capable of miracles is another thing entirely.
These are the same people who blame rape victims for their assaults. Of course what do we expect from those who brought us toxic purity culture, where men’s behavior is excused, and women are responsible not only for themselves but for every man on earth.
All this proves what I've been saying for years Fewer Americans are going to church not because Americans are in moral decline but because the churches themselves are in moral decline
I love how Americans do literally everything to not get insurance. They even join a system where everyone is paying a small amount of money so the organization can pay for your bills with this money. You know, like all of us non-Americans, but somehow much worse.
Broadly agreed, though I'd look on this on a case-by-case basis. This claim would pretty much applie to every preacher/elder of a church I've ever been in. But none of those men even got paid for their church work, they had normal full-time jobs by which they made a living. And there's nothing wrong with that, as long as you don't have jarring social inequality within a church.
Unfortunately, some Americans really believe in the Prosperity Gospel Christianity. So wealth is a sign of God's favor and blessing, while poverty and ill health is a sign God punishing someone.
@@bugeyedmonster2 and good god is it asinine, now displays of wealth are a sign of one's success as a Christian, it is so backwards! I have a family member in ministry that is often conscious about it. feeling that they cannot preach about hope and overcoming obstacles while still bearing challenges themselves because the congregation would look at that and question it. and more successful churches apparently have to put on the image of being highly successful because displays of wealth display that you are blessed, which displays that you are close to god and doing something right. it's a maddening, self perpetuating issue that not only ignores jesus's condemnation of amassing wealth. but leads churches to allocate more resources into presentation than into meaningfull material support for the members of church and just people in general. I still remember this one small church I attended that felt like a branded wall fountain to put in the lobby was a better investment than fucking air conditioning for the building! and that's only the beginning!
Honestly, the lack of healthcare coverage in one of the richest countries in the world is appalling. When Papua New Guinea has a paid maternity leave before the United States does, that’s really saying something. People can pray if they want, but that shouldn’t be a substitute for comprehensive health insurance!
It is a shame. The health care industry wants money so bad they’ll influence the government representatives to side with them. They don’t lack health care coverage so why would they give a rats butt about anyone else.
aye rolls back to his previosu skit bout the fact the its very easy ot create a church as a means ot become Tax Exempt and how massively abusable that system is. or he has called " starting a religion is a magnificent way of making a sht ton of money"
THIS - or better yet, 80% of people polled wanted single payer healthcare, but the healthcare lobbyists payed quite a lot of money to politicians to have them bury that little truth under a pile of lies.
@@beenright5115 Actually, it’s “there no precedent for easy prosecution and collection of money damages so prosecutors and courts try to ignore it and hope it goes away.”
This is so true. I had a co-worker wonder aloud why should she have to worry about insurance at all since she was healthy. Who actually uses their insurance? I immediately raised my hand.
News articles about how people have been successful in taking care of their massive health expenses by doing extreme tasks/jobs are actually disgusting. "How heartwarming! This eight year old boy is mowing lawns to pay for the brain surgery he had just last week! And he's back on his feet already? What a hardworking, dedicated, and responsible young man!"
Every human interest story in America is some variant of "Man Pays to Stop Orphans from Being Crushed in Orphan-Crushing Machine" without ever asking why the fuck we even have an orphan-crushing machine or why the hell we'd have to pay NOT to use it.
@@Ferinex_666 Trying to get rid of the Machine? Crazy Commie. Trying to fix the system in some way that saves the orphans? They are whiners and you're a crazy Socialist. Its tiring trying to point out to people this system isn't working and is failing the vast majority because "We're number 1" is the mantra they fully believe.
Yeah, that's what he was famous for right? If Jesus returned today, not only would Christians be the first one to accuse him of being a socialist leftist (which he kind of was, but he was aware caring for other was not a bad thing), they might just make him lose faith in his entire endevour.
@@creativedesignation7880 If Jesus were to return today it may very well be the literal end times. So all these would be Christian Hypocrites would be judged for their sins anyway.
Last time I checked both China, Cuba and Thailand are classified as "developing countries", and all arguably have better public healthcare systems than the US
@Jessamyn Rising ALL of Europe are capitalist free market countries with taxpayer paid universal healthcare, universal pension care, education. Nothing of this is a socialist invention. We are neither socialist countries nor social democracies, the government does not own the means of production, nor is it in control of most things in the economy or other fields and we still need private insurances on top of universal healthcare to have the best healthcare possible. And the European countries with the highest living standards : Monaco, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Ireland have the lowest corporation taxes and some of the lowest income taxes and VAT taxes in Europe. Sweden is even behind Germany in living standards and GDP per capita, and Scandinavian countries were among the poorest countries in Europe when they had a socialist economy decades ago and became rich when they left their socialist policies (so much for Bernie's fake news when reality fact checked)
Most of us do. It's just that for most of us, all we can do about it is choose between a party that will only half-heartedly try to fix it, and one who will actively make things worse. and enough of us are liable to choose the latter option that voting for a third becomes too risky.
I am so sorry to hear about your Dad. They dropped my sister when she got ovarian cancer. They did not even pay the bills she submitted before they dropped her. Heartless. Best wishes to your family.
We've gone beyond Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption to the equivalent of the Kenneth Copeland's of the country being legally allowed to operate an HMO/Health Bookie operation. We really do live in Hell, and it's getting even more Hellish.
@@SurvivingAnotherDay Yes agreed, but not everyone living in America is rich or will be rich. The system in your country is made to have a divide. Atleast in countries like UK, Canada, Aus, European countries, government values basic human values (healthcare being the most important).
@@Grim_Beard Agreed, but even they would be too scared to try to turn the NHS into the basketcase system the USA has. I've heard it said that the NHS is the closest thing us Brits have to a state religion, and so no senior politician can attack it openly, especially after the last 18 months. Would some of them secretly like to privatise it for cash money? You bet, but they'll have to resort to slowly starving it rather than doing anything too destructive in the short term.
Let’s not forget that to be even eligible for these programs, you generally have to have a letter from your pastor indicating you attend church, are active in said church, and don’t smoke or drink. My parents, who are in their 70’s, have been a part of these programs for years. I’m on social security as a disabled person, and I have kept asking them why they don’t collect on social security and Medicare, as is there right, as it would be much safer and more affordable... many accidents later, they finally agree, and have switched over. However, they still think these programs are great options for younger families, not the exclusionary scams they tend to be. Please protect yourselves, and get actual insurance coverage that doesn’t exclude pre-existing conditions, mental health services, or feminine care. I’m so glad he decided to do an episode on this topic!
I do have actual health insurance and I'm getting about as much coverage as these assholes are offering. My copay is $120 each (that includes just a phone call from my doctor) and the bill was only $167. It would have honestly been cheaper to not have insurance.
@@thisguy9819 We have decent health care through a union. I think we pay about 250. a month. My wife was just in the hospital for 2 days, 11k, our bill, 0. I spent 4 days in intensive care and eleven days total, the bill, 180k, my bill, 0. Our copays at the doctors, 20 dollars. Our deductibles, 0. We pay for prescriptions but it is a very small copay. Well, unions have mostly been busted and the general public looks down on them. Our gain, their loss.
I am honestly trying to understand how I pay 15 copay and paid basically notjing when I had surgery last year .........I see people saying the pay 50 to 150....and due to my experience and those around me,I tend to call BS but I am open to being enlightened
Check out the Opening Arguments podcast, episode #497, for a lawyer's take on these scams. It's educational _and_ entertaining. And yes, they've worked for some people, in some circumstances (at least, if they don't stay in for long). But some people made money from Bernie Madoff, too. That's how these schemes tend to work.
Funnily enough there is THIS passage which a lot of "Christian businesses" should take heed of But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself? Lk 12:20
Jesus ministered to Jews and Gentiles in Christ’s body there is no such designation as everyone is a Christian. So all of the procedures and rules etc of the Old Testament no longer applied
@@SE-gs6gd Everyone is not a Christian, or part of the body of Christ, unless they accept Jesus Christ as their savior. But that’s not something that Jesus said, it’s something that His followers said later on. Jesus didn’t discriminate. People do. Jesus said that the greatest commandment is “Love God with all of your heart, mind, and soul.” And the other command is “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Very simple. Love the God who created you, and love His creation. Man just screws it up…
Remember what Jesus said: "Love thy neighbor as yourself - except if thy neighbor smokes, fucks, or has any fun in life at all. And of course that love is paid with money. No, that's totally not prostitution!"
I wonder how they feel about mental health lol "Well you know trying to take your own life is your fault, your lifestyle choice" "Oh dear! Locked up in a psych facility to treat your psychosis? I will pray for the devil to leave your body"
The difference is that most people are ok with 100% socialised healthcare if you strip out the lifestyle related healthcare. America would probably be wildly in favour of a DC-backed plan that refused treatment for 1) Obesity related healthcare to people weighing over 300lb 2) Injuries related to gang-related gunshot or stab injuries 3) People who didn't pay federal taxes If anything this segment has encouraged me to look into these programs because even in regular healthcare plans, 20% of the people suck up 80% of the money and it's all lifestyle driven.
So let me get this straight: people don't want to contribute to a public healthcare system but they will gladly pay into a private organization that is less transparent than government and is not even required to provide coverage? I will never understand the US.
Because for nearly a century straight, business people have waged a ruthless and devastating war against everything America claims to stand for in an effort to rake in the moolah. They were nearly subjugated by Roosevelt's New Deal, and they have been clawing kicking and screaming ever since. Being made to actually care for their fellow citizens? Not so long as they're kings of the planet.
If it's any consolation, it's not the entirety of the US... But it is a non-insignificant portion of the population that is ridiculously loyal to the the letter (R) and/or their selective idea of Christianity. Also not helped by the fact that many of the politicians with (R) by their names blatantly live to serve lobbyists to legislate in their favor, rather than for the people... While those same politicians use legal avenues to make peoples' ability to vote them out all the harder, continuing our fast descent into a kleptocracy/plutocracy. ...But yeah, not the entirety of the US...
It's no different then pretty much anything else; imagine if the government tracked, sold, stored etc...your information like most companies do. People would flip out. But a company asks you for all this stuff and gives you a pittance in return, people sign right up.
You, Mr. Oliver, are a national American treasure....without you, we would be less. I personally adore you and appreciate your brilliant insight into every aspect of our lives....and every ugly wrinkle of our inadequacies. I am in your debt sir
Mind I remind everybody that the plot of "Breaking Bad", meaning a high-school teacher resorting to cooking meth to pay for his cancer treatment, is by no means farfetched. This is absolutely insane.
In Canada we say, Breaking Bad would be the shortest, most boring show if it was in Canada. Got Cancer? Treatment is provided immediately, you just gotta pay the insane hospital parking fees and for the meds after treatment/for side effects of treatment. So maybe $300?
@@Dhassp because it feels like pity from his rich friends who are using 'his inventions'. If the government pays it, it is not a pity, instead it is the job of the government and your right which you deserve because you give them tax money or some other things. For example the hard work of a laborer gives them buildings which become financial hubs.
Imagine a world where we take care of each other, so we don't need to bankrupt ourselves when we get sick. Like for example, everyone could pay a small amount a month into a common fund, and if anyone gets sick, we just take the money out of there.... oh wait..
Well, single-payer healthcare systems _do_ have severe penalties for bad health decisions. That's why European governments heavily tax, and sometimes even outlaw, things that Americans enjoy -- because those governments are paying people's medical bills, they want to keep costs down, and they have the authority to literally make it illegal to be unhealthy. Americans would never accept that level of government regulation of our lives; that goes way beyond stuff like gun control and into stuff like banning your favorite snack from being sold in supermarkets.
@@deusexaethera I am european, and if a snack is banned here it would have pretty good reasons, like heavy metal in it or something like that, not really different from the US. We do tax alcohol (not sure, is this taxed in the US? Probably yes... but i have no idea) and cigarettes. We encourage people to go to the doctor when they are sick, so that things can be treated while they are treatable, this proves to be way cheaper than waiting until you have an emergency.
The problem is that too many Americans have been brainwashed into thinking that paying for anyone else is bad. The idea of helping "lazy people" get basic food and healthcare has them clenching so tight they shit out diamonds.
@@deusexaethera It's not that bad, but often they don't ban it, they force food companies to adhere to standards, Companies like Nestlé have spent million reducing the amount of sugar in their products(finding substitutes who may or not be worse) since most have sugar taxes in Europe it also gives them a competitive edge. Taxes are high in Europe, for just about anything, but there is something I find odd in America, for example, California a super democrat state with big support for health care, is a lot richer than most European countries(almost all of them) and could create its own state wide system, so why don't they do it, it's hard for the federal government to have these powers since they are enumerated, they could create mandates in California like in Germany, so why won't they?
Fun fact: I thought I was having a heart attack the other night. Like legit chest pains so bad I had to lie down among other scary issues and instead of having my bf rush me to the ER like he offered, I spent an hour googling how much a heart attack costs. Then decided I couldn't afford it so I told him how I'd like my things when I died and how he'd have to take my animals and care for them. I pretty much spoke my will to him and had my last meal while we watched our favorite shows. I'm 26. It was terrifying. But I'm alright I think. I'm not dead yet! Knock on wood. But yeah. American health care.
Holy shit this sounds so horrible😰😰😰 but I'm glad that you're better now! And I hope that one day you won't have to care about healthcare expenses when an emergency arrives❤️❤️❤️
Nice! That reminds me of several years ago when my parents got a 6 grand hospital bill after my high school sent me to the ER because I had a bloody nose that had been going for 30 minutes.
I had a very similar experience, but am in a lucky enough situation that insurance covered most of it, and I was able to pay for the rest of it out of pocket. I'm eternally grateful (to myself and everyone who got me to where I am) that I was able to go to the ER and not be up to my eyeballs in debt. It didn't stop the cursing though when I saw the bill and wondered who the fuck thinks this is a good system.
@@rohansaxena4751 Thank you so much. I hope so too. I have a long list of things to get fixed. It took me years to get some dental work done and I ended up crying out of happiness because I was pain free and wasn't used to that. Hoping my body will be that way too one day!
@@QarthCEO come on. Obama can't take all the credit for this. Carter, Regan, Clinton, Bush's, Trump and Biden get credit for this too 🙂 oh... don't forget Congress 👍
@@QarthCEO thanks.Let's make America great again and kick out all these idiots that think Obama is to blame just cause he's black and seriously believe in the orange douchebag.
@@nickanderson8597 Yeah, plenty of "credit" to go around 🤣 But seriously, Obama could have made single payer a pillar of the Dem platform, but he gave us Romney Care instead. He didn't even give us a public option, which he campaigned on. I'm still kinda salty about it.
Even if the president would make a humane first world country worthy healhcare reform the big pharma and insurance company bribed greedy fucks in congress and senate would block it.
A friend referred me to one of these. I read the paperwork carefully and came away with the exact same take as he is purporting here. Needless to say I didn’t fall for this scam. Besides that, I don’t want someone who voted for Trump “praying” for me cuz I’m not at all sure who they’re praying to 🙄
LOL I do love the irony of this scam. Socialism is bad, so join our religion-based plan where we share costs because it's what God would want us to do for one another.
@@boosted211 they're totally fine accepting social help (like farmers) they just don't want to be the ones contributing towards the even less fortunate. Hypocrisy of the republican voter.
"I don't want universal healthcare that's socialist!....ooo let's chuck money to randos to redistribute to very specific people who claim to live by arbitrary moral values we kind of like."
@@tuckerbugeater Half of Jesus's miracles were "sick person who is poor gets healed for free" up to and including "this kid literally died, let me fix that for you"
Hi there from Austria! After watching this, reading a lot of the American Health System and comparing it to the Austrian, another reason to love living here.. If you are insured here (you are,even in times of unemplyment), the maximum fees per Year for hospital visits are about 220 Euros, at the pharmacy you have to pay 6 Euros if you have a receipt, Going to the doc is free (when its a private doc the Insurance covers 80 %) and you can put all of this in your tax report.. 2019 I spent 2 months in coma in the ICU, had multiple Operations, 6 weeks of Reha and 6 Months in another Hospital afterwards...220€ Thx, Austrian Health Care System, you saved my life
America is under a pandemic of stupidity and it's not going away anytime soon. in fact, it's progressing in exposure and severity. Keep a safe distance.
I mean this is a country that when you point out that every other 1st world country has universal healthcare and by example is definitrly possible, the counter argument is yeah but we're proud to be American
My favorite recurring bit is whenever he says that something is ridiculously easy for anyone to start/found and then there's a pause, - and we all know what's coming next - and he's like 'and I know that, because we did'.
I mean, you know, sure. It's easy to make it sound ludicrous by putting false words in the mouth of Jesus. BUT ... it's really not a stretch to put those words into the mouth of "God", à la the Old Testament. He was kind of a dick. Just ask Job. Or Moses. Whereas Jesus was a New Age hippie by comparison to his alleged father. Which is why it's really easy to believe in the Jewish perspective that Jesus wasn't God's son. They have some pretty distinct personality differences that are difficult to put together. LOL
Let's not forget that Jesus would prioritize those who truly deserve the help. Those who've lived morally righteous, cared for others, and fallen sick without being their fault.
Yep! people get so mad at Obama for this and that or "my prices went up" which sucks. but!-- 22 MILLION more people got insurance. Too bad the legislation coming from a republican think tank it had to be watered down so much-- of course a black guy offering the country the best it's had. R's couldn't let that slide without a fight/obstruction/racism
@@shaneh9591 I still can’t afford a damn thing. I have diabetes and can’t afford the insurance. I have to pay for the “privilege” of still paying the doctor even more money. They don’t cover anything…it’s been 10 years since I’ve seen an endocrinologist…and I am forced to give the Waltons money for insulin…the same family RESPONSIBLE for this healthcare crisis we’re in…so what do I do? I don’t pay anybody ANYTHING. That expensive degree the doc paid for won’t be helped because they cost too much, the nurses who work, nope, I CAN’T help you pay for your training or family, the admin staff, NOPE, I don’t have enough money. So I will die quicker and there’s less money in the pool. Welcome to the truth.
@@Cartman4wesome paying with taxes still means there is a cost, just not to the patient directly. The cost of 300k is insane and can’t possibly be justified even with the best care
All I know is I’d be homeless and most likely dead had my friends not spontaneously created a GofundMe after I was assaulted and almost murdered. And just as they contributed to me, I’ve been contributing happily to many friends who have faced and are facing catastrophes and even when we have insurance it doesn’t cover our costs. This country is simply a disgrace. We should have had healthcare for all aeons ago.
The system may be flawed, and we certainly do some lousy shit, but the entire country a disgrace? No it isn't. We came close for four years there and we had some pretty disgraceful leadership but we are slowly wiping the shit from our face recouping losses. The healthcare system will be fixed, just takes time and rational thought.
You should have never been in that position! I’m so thankful your friends were able to help, and that you have showed that same kindness and generosity to others. We have to do better here in America!
@@vanman6534 When it comes to healthcare, we ARE a disgrace. People should never have to go, “okay, this month heart medicine; next month, diabetes.” Or ration their insulin. Or lose everything because of a freak accident. Or shill pictures of their kids on social media in the hopes it will go viral and people will help pay for the kid’s life-saving surgery…But most healthcare GoFundMes fail. A nation where THAT is common is a disgrace.
@CockOfJustice Yes I believe in being prepared. I think if you check, you will find that you are just a tad overzealous in your projection of numbers of carrier groups.
Americans: "Health insurance is godless communism, so instead i go with an alternative that is basically the same as health insurance but worse in absolutely every conceivable metric"
Despite widespread and constant demonstrations that privatized industries often provide worse products at higher costs than socialized versions in other countries, America continues to believe in the “free” market’s ability to solve literally anything.
“Christian” Ministry: “We ain’t gonna cover you because alcohol was vaguely associated with the injury.” Jesus Christ: *literally turns water into wine so people can party*
Actually, this is one instance where I'm happy LGBTQ+ people and other discriminated groups are refused access. For once discrimination works out well, you don't get scammed. (By them at least) I am perfectly fine with white supremacists/racists/homophobes scamming other white supremacists/racists/homophobes out of healthcare (You reap what you sow). I just fear for the children. That 10 year old didn't deserve that.
I first heard about these a couple years ago in an ad on a podcast I listened too. When I dug a little deeper I saw the Christian clause and that put me off, and I am a Christian. We are supposed to love and take care of everyone regardless of if someone share's our faith or not.
The same thing happens when a church gives you "charity" in exchange for you showing up to churc services on Sunday - even of you already belong to a church! WTF?!
“Americans will always do the right thing, only after they have tried everything else." - Winston Churchill We may be in for a very, very long wait on this one.
_America is the only country that took the step from barbarism to decadence without the usual detour via civilisation._ [Georges Clemenceau] I rathter think they missed their exit long ago and just keep on driving ever since.
Canadian here. When I get sick, I book an appointment or head down to an urgent care centre if it's particularly unpleasant. Sometimes there's a wait. People with more serious health problems go to the front of the line when they arrive for obvious reasons. Typically doesn't take long though. Then I go to the pharmacy to get whatever medication the doctor prescribed. Then I pay usually between zero and twenty dollars for it. Then there's no bill beyond that, because when you cut out the marketing and executive yacht budgets, health care costs way less than what Americans pay for it. Seriously y'all are being ripped off hard and it doesn't even buy better care.
But at least we don’t have socialism. Besides Social Security, Medicare, the VA. And yes, I’m aware these aren’t really socialism. They’re social programs.
@@kconway2263 Help help i have fallen down the sar chasm. It's fine i don't need help really it's fun down here. Some things work well when privately owned, other things simply become a 24/7 festival of price gouging. Guess which category health care falls in to. :)
Another Canadian. Even our system has problems but it's still much better than what the US has. Hopefully, the push for privatization in Canada fails and we can truly focus on improving our public health system.
"Cigna... a company whose logo is a cartoon man standing in a field as his head explodes from dealing with their customer service." Nearly spit my coffee across the room from laughing so hard at this one. LOL. So true.
Yes that hit close to home. CIgna is the devil. If I weren't permanently disabled (and irrevocably denied disability benefits by Cigna through the insurance my employer paid for and which I VERY clearly qualified for), I'd be DAMN SURE to very carefully scrutinize any benefits packages from prospective employers and NEVER accept a job with any employer doing business with Cigna. Again, they're the devil.
We need universal health care, not religious organizations and their beliefs, determining who can and can't get health coverage. We also need to move Healthcare away from our jobs. It would be nice, if America joined the rest of the actual, free world.
And I thought religion was just a way to get into heaven. Somebody had the idea--let's use it to bilk people out of money for healthcare services, and then turn down care for just about any reason imaginable.
The basic idea seems open to abuse, in this case by greedy insurance companies taking advantage of naive people. It's pretty clear what they're doing should be made illegal and this practice should be properly formalised and regulated.
It’s beyond messed up. The only reason I can’t just leave my job despite intense burnout and vicarious trauma is because everyone in my household has healthcare through my work (which I still have to pay for out of my paycheque). So I have to wait until I can get another job…during a pandemic.
Mah' John always knows how to put a smile on my face as he shares annoying, sad, and frustrating information with me. Bless him and his three bandaids.
Praise The Holy Trinity! The knee Band-Aid, the elbow Band-Aid, and the little funny shaped knuckle Band-Aid with like, flappy things on it, that never sticks for more than an hour. Amen.
A few years ago in Italy my 84 years old grandma got tubercolosis. She had to stay in a special room in the hospital isolated to not infect other people, the room was very high tech and entirely for her. The hospital was among the best in Italy and there were some very good and competent doctors trying to cure her. At the end fortunately she recovered completely and she's still alive. She stayed in the hospital for more than one month, the result? She didn't have to pay anything, on the contrary, the state gave her a little pension of invalidity for about a year (and I admit maybe this last thing was too much because she doesn't need money)
If an American, someone there that is crazy "patriotic", read the part about not paying and receiving something for free, that person would say it's communism
@@reptilev8625 YES! HELL FUCKING YEAH! Oh man words can’t describe the excitement and joy I have for her. Thank you kind sir for updating me on her health.
@@ToxicTerrance I respect people who are self-aware like you much better over anybody that denies harsh reality like the one you replied to. Take good care there in FL.
“We don’t cover obesity-related troubles” You guys do realize that obesity is mostly rampant amongst the lower classes, right? Real Christian mindset you got there.
Even if the system were to be implemented perfectly, it would basically be Christian socialism, and at that point there's no excuse to not adopt universal health care instead.
Here, let me give you an American politics refresher: Socialism is when the _government_ does stuff, and if the government does a lot of stuff, that's communism.
If the system is rotten and corrupted it will always end up in gutter. I have single payer insurance as part of universal healthcare and so far it's two months to get a 15 bucks checks for a medical procedure the insurance company legally bound to with a contract.
Even when they are taught it's wrong they still naturally grow towards what makes sense. But they do it in any way they can without being aware or admitting to it, and while only helping their own little clans instead of the country or world. That's what 80+ years of fear-mongering and barebones regulated capitalism does to a country I guess.
When talking about „implemented perfectly“, you assume that there is a correct and unique Christian belief about what sickness is from a religious standpoint. But it’s a spectrum that might go from „Sickness is caused by the Devil, and we are paying for everything.“ to „Sickness is send from God as a punishment for your sins, and we’re not paying for your sins or interfering with Gods will.“ to: „If it gets better, this is a sign from God that you turned your life around, and then we’re paying. But if it doesn’t get better, you clearly refused God’s offer for forgiveness, and then there’s nothing we can do for you, you are clearly not praying hard enough and sincerely enough“ or any other ridiculous case in between. How would you „perfectly implement“ an idea that you haven’t even really agreed on in the first place. Ask the Pope? Not paying for „Life Choices“ and not paying for an innocent child having a brain tumor have one thing in common: not paying! They make the „reasons“ up as they go or after the fact. There’s no way to „perfectly implement“ what is insanity. P.S. of course any normal insurance will be having similar discussions and decisions about what is covered, but there at least it’s in the contract, and it doesn’t depend on wether someone thinks you are worthy in God‘s eyes. And nobody is pretending that their catalogue of covered treatments is depending on the right interpretation of God’s will. What I‘m getting at: this is a pretty ridiculous concept halfway between just begging for help („go fund me“) and a proper organization that was invented for that problem („insurance“). Even insurances are never „implemented perfectly“: emotions and beliefs should have nothing to do with it whatsoever: as soon as you start looking at single cases, you are making ethical choices, that should only depend on rational arguments: what is the minimum care everybody deserves, what is the chance for rehabilitation, what is the probable quantity or quality of life that can be regained etc. - these are difficult decisions, and the policy guidelines should have ideally be decided from a standpoint of anonymity, and personal beliefs should stay out of it as much as possible.
I mean they are... Medicare is a system you pay into so that a governing body can pay on behalf of others’ bills as well as your own. It’s just socialized medicine that gives no assurances that they will actually pay out and limits membership based on religion.
@@mookyss no, none, no significance whatsoever. That's not how American citizenship has ever or will ever work. No matter who you are or what you do you're an American, and we pay into that as citizens I don't have children, but I have never and will never wonder why I pay for other people's children to go to school for free
@@mookyss Not when the real-world result of that is a big chunk of the country getting screwed over because the available charity money doesn't cover what companies feel like charging for the service in question.
This sounds like socialized healthcare without any of the built-in social safety net. Like they decided to take the idea of single payer health care system, dumped in all the greed of private insurance companies, and took away the "insurance" part of it for good measure.
Xycron. no John told us right off there IS a right way to do this but we don't do this we do it the WRONG way. Funniest line to start off the show. Then he spends the rest of the time telling us why.
Incorrect. He bought the first aid kit for someone else - and then someone else paid for your first aid kit. Did you not even watch the episode? It's a community thing paying for other people's healthcare, not your own
ministry is also another word to say "department" in a governmental capacity tho ;) for example, germanys department of defense is called ministry of defense, or "Verteidigungsministerium". because department actually translates to "Behörde", which is less powerful.
Yep! it immediately implies you are entering a holy authoritarian vertical marketing scheme and you are at the bottom, but ya know... Jesus and stuff so gimme your money, you're forgiven of all your sin!
This is just the state of Christianity in the US. Ministers need private jets because they don't want to rub elbows with the common folks who fly. It is the age of the Great Grift.
Well please do keep in mind 99% of churches are not anything like that. And most of us don't think that's a prudent way to have spent that money either.
The blind leads the blind everyone is in the ditch. Problem is either they don’t know it’s a ditch or they do and they like the ditch. The ditch is safe. So sad that so many people who think they’re “God fearing Christians” are gonna be sitting right up in hellfire wondering how they got there. Smdh…
Having healthcare tied to employment is responsible for insane amounts of depression, people working jobs they hate just for healthcare...ugh. I've been there!
How can stuff like this be even legal in a modern developed country. Shouldnt like, I dont know, the government ban these? And provide all basic health care via a state wide system?
I agree with the second but don't see why it should be banned. People choose to sign up to it, if you don't like the system don't sign up for it, it's quite simple.
@@thisguy9819 Except they are clearly told that none of it is a contract and that if you break their religious standard you won't get funded, so there's nothing inconsistent or dishonest. It's their choice.
I remember seeing a comic where an alien was describing how the humans had invented something called 'business' where they steal each other's money back and forth
_America, the only country where conning people out of their hard earned money isn't just allowed, but actually encouraged._ Only when it's allied with religion - ideally, Christianity.
Praise be to Mega Wife Wanda Jo Oliver! And also: a show of her own. Or at least a recurring segment. She (and her magical, awe-inspiring hair) is a show-stealer.
"We've had a successful history of sharing medical bills 100% for every eligible need ever submitted." Yeah no shit you deem every bill you don't share as inelligible
The whole idea of the story of the Good Samaritan was the fact that they, a Samaritan, helped someone who was not part of their tribe. They are portraying that personification of the parable , by excluding people who aren’t like them from coverage. It’s like they didn’t even read the Bible
Personally it's the fact I could be legally killed in numerous states just for being gay and trans, and I could be fired from my job for the same reasons, and I'd have no option of legal recourse against harassment based on me being gay and trans. Also the lack of health-care.
"It was down to healthcare or my student loans." Well I don't think there is a better way to describe America.
Yep total BS victimhood people complaining look at poor me.
@@johnree6106 Explain to me how this is justified.
good one
@@johnree6106 So are you saying that medical debt and predatory lending isn't a problem in America?
Mmm what happened to Obamacare?
I had brain surgery for sub arachnoid hemorrhage 9 months ago, I spent 10 days in the hospital 4 of which in the ICU, and after getting released I've had all the cognitive function tests and epilepsy tests and 3 follow up CT scans. Now I'm in the clear and fully healed with no brain damage, and all in all the cost to me was the equivalent of around 400 dollars, including meds and everything, and I only had to pay half of that. Man I'm glad I was born in Finland.
that sound like a harry potter curse
@@felixphilippe7224 Sure as shit didn't feel like harry potter anything, when I suffered with my brain bleeding for 5 days thinking it was migraine at first, then called the ambulance on the fifth day, was already so out of it that I can't remember anything else than hearing the sirens and seeing the lights.
Texas born American here. I would have rather died. I never would have financially recovered from that. It sounds like it was incredibly painful and I’m glad you’re doing better but I honestly would have rather died than dealt with those bills afterward
Had a doc look in my ear during an after hours appointment that literally lasted less than 6 minutes. $370
Shut up jerk. I mean glad for ya. 'merica
Ah, I remember that touching Bible story when the blind man came to Jesus asking him to be healed and Jesus said "Uh, no, having eyes is actually a pre-existing condition, sorry, you don't qualify for healing"
💯 too right 😅😭
Then Jesus smoked dmt with Joe Rogan at the burning bush.
Maybe Jesus and heal that lame ass joke.
lol
When you reread the story you realize Jesus spits on him. Why didn’t he just use healing hands? Was the spit necessary?
Noting that you brought up the BBB, it should be made pretty clear that the BBB is not a government organization, and a company can wipe their record on that site simply by paying "fines". In other words, it's basically a more official sounding yelp with more corruption. Perhaps you should do an episode on them.
I agree omg god. This would be a good epsoide. I roll my eyes whenever someone uses the threat "I will complain to the BBB"
Yes!!! An episode on the BBB would be awesome! I hate when people tell me to complain to the BBB. I tell them that it does NOTHING other than put a complaint online. It means nothing.
Would LOVE to share a "Last Week Tonight" on the utterly corrupt BBB!
"It was down to Healthcare or my student loans" guy sounds just like Steve-o
Customers think the BBB is a policing agency, it is not. "I'm going to get the BBB after you." Thank god they didn't leave a bad google review that would be worse
Hmm, didn't Jesus heal prostitutes, sinners, etc? Or have I read a different Bible?
Jesus was being nice to sinners so you don't have to.
Proof that is was never about beliefs. It's just a cover up.
Worse, you understood the text and subtext, how DARE you actually have an intellectual approach to basic thought.
Oh Kenneth, being Christian isn't about being Christ-like. The entire religion is based on the premise that you can never live up to Jesus' standard, so just make sure you say you're sorry for being a loser at least once a week, and everything will be fine.
No, you did read that in the Bible. It's just that the others didn't read the Bible at all.
John: "Just about anyone can become an HCSM." Me: "Oh, oh. I know where this is going."
Lmao yep. It's a tried and proven recipe for success 😂
The part I was surprised by was that he didn't somehow use it to pay for someone's health care like the medical debt buying thing he did a while back.
@@kelsiparker7990 I do hope that when all kits are bought, the money will be used to buy off medical debt. (Like the money that went to Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption ended up donated to Doctors Without Borders)
@@sevhells I can see that being a nice second week twist!
@@sevhells $1.99 roughly covers the shipping. Last Week Tonight is intentionally doing this at a loss.
John Oliver: "And the reason I know that is..."
My day: Improves
Best plot twist since any Nolan film!!
I spent the last half of the video just wishing he would say that, and then he did. my day was made.
Love it when he and wanda make my day.
That sentence means John made a fool of someone
It's so inherently classist and ableist to tie insurance to employment. It's essentially saying that if you don't work, you don't deserve to live. Everyone deserves health care.
Also soooo extra fucked up when you consider which demographics are more likely to have less stable employment (aka be employed as casuals rather than permanent/part-time contracts) - students, working mothers, retirees doing casual work to make ends meet, people recently released from prison, people with chronic health conditions, young people in general..... also just, increasingly large portions of the general workforce due to mass-casualisation... but there's no harm in that! Right? Right? Not like that would allow massive for-profit companies to wipe their hands of all responsibilities to their employees if there was say..... a pandemic or something
No, you don’t deserve healthcare just because you exist. Claiming entitlement to someone’s labor for nothing is slavery.
@@ExPwner That's funny, because people claiming entitlement to somebody's labor is literally how capitalism works!
@@LavosAdvocate no it isn't. Capitalism works by people exchanging labor for payment, not labor for nothing.
@@ExPwner Well, sort of. The whole point of capitalism is that you don't get paid the full value of your work, just what you can negotiate. So there is a portion of that labor that the worker is not compensated for, which goes to the company.
Not covering obesity related problems is totally in line with christian values. As Jesus famously said, "no fatties."
“I’d rather die than something something 1984 communism is bad”- Jesus, according To republicans
He also said during the wedding in Cana, right after he turned water into wine, "don't drink any of this though"
Deuteronomy 21:20 / 1 John 2:15-17
Well fat people can’t fit through the eye of a needle, so yeah.
@@fredblonder7850 Thou art funny!
The INSTANT he said “the bar of entry is so low literally anyone could enter” I knew exactly where he was going with it. Good job John.
My favorite sentence from John Oliver: "And the reason I know that..."
When you pay $1200/mo for insurance for a small family and end up paying still $8000 out of pocket for a broken arm that only needed a cast, you start to consider what else is out there. My wife asked the hospital what the cost would have been without insurance to which they replied "$3000." So, it is definitely a broken system.
Which is part of the reason why a health care sharing ministry can be such a great solution
@@moretac You still need to pay both because an HCSM is not going to negotiate a $1,000,000 bill on chemotherapy that someone like aflac can do. So.. are you really still saving money?
@@justinb498 Absolutely. I've made multiple claims on my health care sharing ministry and have saved tons of money compared to when I had commercial insurance. And if I ever did have something catastrophic my out-of-pocket is capped immensely lower than it would have been with commercial insurance.
@@moretac yeah no, I'd rather die then get covered by one. We need Europe's model NOW
John: "The bar to entry is so low, basically anyone can become an HCSM"...Everyone who watches LWT: "You started an HCSM didn't you?"
For real when he said that and I saw how much time was left I knew
You know, I was hoping this would be like the episode about debt buying.
Praise be!
I swear I knew it half way into the segment. I just had a hunch lol 😆
He’s a millionaire so his would work.
Whenever you hear, "Take Florida, for instance." it's never a good sign.
Especially when you live here.
When you see "Florida man" remember Florida has very specific laws that enable and encourage lazy journalists to poke fun at any "criminal" (police lie, this is known but rarely actually said. Importantly, it doesn't actually matter in this case, these stories shamelessly air people's dirty laundry for click bait) who probably has serious unaddressed substance abuse and/or mental health problems. It's also worth noting Florida has a serious problem with homelessness. Journalists basically have free reign to look at any police report filed in the state and air it to the public for a cheap easy story, and, for some reason, this is never explained as a failure on the part of Florida to care for people's mental health, substance abuse, or other reasons they may have a mental breakdown (such as extreme poverty).
The politicians have no excuse and journalists should be using "Florida man" to point out how politicians failed Florida, not how "Florida man bad, mmkay"
@@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat thank you. My partner is from Florida. Imma bring this up.
"Florida man....
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@@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat Bro hly shit. That's a really good point tho
"Christians" - you know like that story in the bible where Jesus refused to heal a non Christian. Oh no, wait, the religious leaders told him to deny healing to a non Christian Roman and he scolded them, then healed the Roman anyways. I can see how that story is confusing.
Jesus wasn’t a Christian…he was Jewish.
@@RbNetEngr Yes, but "Christians" aren't Christians either. The quotes are important. Most "Christians" are just looking for forgiveness for what they just did the day before, and will do again tomorrow, and know that there IS a Bible, but don't know what's in it.
Jesus was a religious radical who wanted to alter the dominant religion and railed against wealth while endorsing support for all. He was literally a radical liberal socialist. Any sensible American conservative would want to see Jesus burn in hell.
@@Demmrir - Jesus didn't exist. The story is a regurgitated ancient myth, see: Dionysis, et al.
@@tirsden There is plenty of historical evidence that Jesus did, in fact, exist. Whether or not you believe him to be the son of god and capable of miracles is another thing entirely.
Denying a victim of assault is absolutely disgusting :(
What's really disgusting is calling it "self-inflicted" because it happened outside a bar.
These are the same people who blame rape victims for their assaults. Of course what do we expect from those who brought us toxic purity culture, where men’s behavior is excused, and women are responsible not only for themselves but for every man on earth.
All this proves what I've been saying for years
Fewer Americans are going to church not because Americans are in moral decline but because the churches themselves are in moral decline
Wait till you learn about the Catholic church in the dark ages
@KahlosHack “At least we don’t burn people at the stake any more” isn’t a particularly effective selling point.
People in America begin to realize that organized religion is just a way to control people through fear of being condemned and ostracized! 😀
On the money
Truth!!!
We have a serious problem here. The news will spin a kid selling lemonade and chips to raise funds for their sibling’s cancer treatment as inspiring.
instead of shaming the companies and situations that led ot the kid having ot resort ot that in the 1st place.
except the jerk down the street will report this same kid to the police for selling lemonade and chips without a license.
I have never used medical insurance, 9 kids and a wife.
We have done cost sharing for 50 years, USA and international. Works.
@@donaldbott8331 My specific group usually lifts 800,000 to 1,000,000 each quarter.
@@papaix4387 good for you
“Hello everyone, this your weekly dose of America.”
- basically John Oliver.
Little clips of misery spliced into a headwarming montage of impotent fury.
Me from Germany .... """ Hell yeahhhh 🥳 ""
@Napoleon LOL. I can totally hear that guy saying this!
@@mysticmarble94 I know right? The US is very... ummm... interesting... yes... that's the word... interesting... 😃
"Okay what's wrong with America now, Mr John Oliver?" - rest of the world
So excited to see Wanda Jo back from her over seas ministry outreach. Praise Be Wanda Jo!
I love how Americans do literally everything to not get insurance. They even join a system where everyone is paying a small amount of money so the organization can pay for your bills with this money. You know, like all of us non-Americans, but somehow much worse.
My job is in dealing with insurance. These HCSMs don't pay anything.
Health insurance is overpriced AF in the US, along with medical care and pharma goods.
@@AKGuerilla weird how that happens when yoi privatize a sector and companies start maximizing for profit
@@Nrokkll Clearly you do not.
Screw insurance. The fat cat is enjoying all the money all of us morons pay into it so he can get fatter ordering drinks and eating all day long...
If your preacher has a more exspensive house than you, someone isn't following Jesus very well.
Broadly agreed, though I'd look on this on a case-by-case basis.
This claim would pretty much applie to every preacher/elder of a church I've ever been in. But none of those men even got paid for their church work, they had normal full-time jobs by which they made a living. And there's nothing wrong with that, as long as you don't have jarring social inequality within a church.
Unfortunately, some Americans really believe in the Prosperity Gospel Christianity. So wealth is a sign of God's favor and blessing, while poverty and ill health is a sign God punishing someone.
@@bugeyedmonster2 Aka money worship by proxy.
@@bugeyedmonster2 and good god is it asinine, now displays of wealth are a sign of one's success as a Christian, it is so backwards!
I have a family member in ministry that is often conscious about it. feeling that they cannot preach about hope and overcoming obstacles while still bearing challenges themselves because the congregation would look at that and question it. and more successful churches apparently have to put on the image of being highly successful because displays of wealth display that you are blessed, which displays that you are close to god and doing something right.
it's a maddening, self perpetuating issue that not only ignores jesus's condemnation of amassing wealth. but leads churches to allocate more resources into presentation than into meaningfull material support for the members of church and just people in general.
I still remember this one small church I attended that felt like a branded wall fountain to put in the lobby was a better investment than fucking air conditioning for the building! and that's only the beginning!
Its not that linear...
He may have invested 1000 dollars into bitcoins back in 2010
Honestly, the lack of healthcare coverage in one of the richest countries in the world is appalling. When Papua New Guinea has a paid maternity leave before the United States does, that’s really saying something. People can pray if they want, but that shouldn’t be a substitute for comprehensive health insurance!
Agreed. Problem is too many think that's communism because they're unaware of the definition. It isn't even socialism. But that's a bad word too. Smh
Sorry we don't speak communist in freedom murica.
Companies offer paid maternity leave in the United States. I still don't understand why you think that there's a lack of health care coverage.
@@buca9696 yeah... also knowledge or logic is also not spoken
It is a shame. The health care industry wants money so bad they’ll influence the government representatives to side with them. They don’t lack health care coverage so why would they give a rats butt about anyone else.
Love how Wanda Jo’s wig gets bigger every time
The higher the hair, the closer to God.
“Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption” is so ridiculously funny
aye rolls back to his previosu skit bout the fact the its very easy ot create a church as a means ot become Tax Exempt and how massively abusable that system is.
or he has called " starting a religion is a magnificent way of making a sht ton of money"
😂
@@Teixas666 I remember a similar phrasing attributed to L Ron Hubbard.
Spoiler alert 😂
I love that this gag came still come back years after it started
Nothing sums up the American healthcare system better than: "Is a crime happening to me right now? If so, why does everyone seem okay with it?"
THIS - or better yet, 80% of people polled wanted single payer healthcare, but the healthcare lobbyists payed quite a lot of money to politicians to have them bury that little truth under a pile of lies.
“Nothing sums up America more than...”
There, fixed it for you!
"is a crime happening to me right now? If so, why does everyone seem okay with it?" ... "Oh, 'cause it's not technically illegal."
@@beenright5115 Actually, it’s “there no precedent for easy prosecution and collection of money damages so prosecutors and courts try to ignore it and hope it goes away.”
This is so true. I had a co-worker wonder aloud why should she have to worry about insurance at all since she was healthy. Who actually uses their insurance?
I immediately raised my hand.
News articles about how people have been successful in taking care of their massive health expenses by doing extreme tasks/jobs are actually disgusting.
"How heartwarming! This eight year old boy is mowing lawns to pay for the brain surgery he had just last week! And he's back on his feet already? What a hardworking, dedicated, and responsible young man!"
Every human interest story in America is some variant of "Man Pays to Stop Orphans from Being Crushed in Orphan-Crushing Machine" without ever asking why the fuck we even have an orphan-crushing machine or why the hell we'd have to pay NOT to use it.
@@Ferinex_666 Mmm, that's a good SMN quote!
That's too much work. Just start up a Gofundme.
@@Ferinex_666 Trying to get rid of the Machine? Crazy Commie. Trying to fix the system in some way that saves the orphans? They are whiners and you're a crazy Socialist. Its tiring trying to point out to people this system isn't working and is failing the vast majority because "We're number 1" is the mantra they fully believe.
@@HiSodiumContent Aint it fun when we all run into each other?
I'm so proud to be a member of JohnnyCare. It has been everything it was advertised to be. Thank you!
Rachel Dratch is an endless gem. She makes everything shine. Bless her. BLESS HER. BLESS HER!
from your lips to GOD'S bigger lips in the SKY!
I think her hair gets bigger with every skit they do.
@@ire1398 I was thinking the same thing. The wig was killing me. I love it!
M'Wanda Forevah! :D
I will bless her, mi'josephine!
This sounds like a religious pyramid scheme.
Yup
That's kind of what religion is
So I recruit 2 apostles and they recruit 2 more and…… ⚠️
@@NastyHudson lmfao someone make a comedy out of this. This is reality
Like religion?
Yeah, just like Jesus asked everyone about their lifestyle and sexual orientation before deciding if he'd heal them or not. 🙄
Yeah, that's what he was famous for right? If Jesus returned today, not only would Christians be the first one to accuse him of being a socialist leftist (which he kind of was, but he was aware caring for other was not a bad thing), they might just make him lose faith in his entire endevour.
Oh you get healed. But now you must go work and repent to pay for it...
He probably did ask, they just failed to include that part in the dream of the person who wrote it down.
@@creativedesignation7880 If Jesus were to return today it may very well be the literal end times. So all these would be Christian Hypocrites would be judged for their sins anyway.
He already knew it and there are instances of him actually calling them out on it before he directed them away from it
Sad part is Americans usually don't even realize how fucked their student fees and health care costs are compared to the rest of the developed world.
@Jessamyn Rising All the best to you. Keep at it.
Last time I checked both China, Cuba and Thailand are classified as "developing countries", and all arguably have better public healthcare systems than the US
@Jessamyn Rising ALL of Europe are capitalist free market countries with taxpayer paid universal healthcare, universal pension care, education. Nothing of this is a socialist invention.
We are neither socialist countries nor social democracies, the government does not own the means of production, nor is it in control of most things in the economy or other fields and we still need private insurances on top of universal healthcare to have the best healthcare possible.
And the European countries with the highest living standards : Monaco, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Ireland have the lowest corporation taxes and some of the lowest income taxes and VAT taxes in Europe. Sweden is even behind Germany in living standards and GDP per capita, and Scandinavian countries were among the poorest countries in Europe when they had a socialist economy decades ago and became rich when they left their socialist policies (so much for Bernie's fake news when reality fact checked)
Most of us do. It's just that for most of us, all we can do about it is choose between a party that will only half-heartedly try to fix it, and one who will actively make things worse. and enough of us are liable to choose the latter option that voting for a third becomes too risky.
We know. Only half doesn't give a shit and doesn't want to bother changing it because they're afraid of the word 'socialized'
My Dad was a Pastor and they dropped him when he was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer.
I am so sorry to hear about your Dad. They dropped my sister when she got ovarian cancer. They did not even pay the bills she submitted before they dropped her. Heartless. Best wishes to your family.
terrible
I am so sorry your father got so sick, and his religious group dropped him like that.
Organized religion is for economic and social networking; it is not a place to seek compassion or redemption.
@@sarahoshea9603 Yep. And enforcement of social norms.
May Father John’s Church Of Revealing How Fucked Up Everything Is to get better in the future!
Praise be!
@Van To Without fail, cloudy river guy.
Praise be!
@Van To Get lost spammer
This episode is like a mad libs of the worst fixable things in America.
Sad 😥 but true
Depressingly well put.
We've gone beyond Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption to the equivalent of the Kenneth Copeland's of the country being legally allowed to operate an HMO/Health Bookie operation.
We really do live in Hell, and it's getting even more Hellish.
As someone who lives outside of America, this show always teaches me why i’m happy i’m not there :)
Yeah but it’s so easy to make money in America my dad made all his money in America instead of Italy
@@SurvivingAnotherDay Yes agreed, but not everyone living in America is rich or will be rich. The system in your country is made to have a divide. Atleast in countries like UK, Canada, Aus, European countries, government values basic human values (healthcare being the most important).
@@chopramo Erm... Brit here. Have you _seen_ our current government? They definitely do not give a flying fuck about anyone.
@@Grim_Beard I lived in the UK for 10yrs and I am sad to see the recent political decisions. Brexit was a big turning point. Sad to see..
@@Grim_Beard Agreed, but even they would be too scared to try to turn the NHS into the basketcase system the USA has. I've heard it said that the NHS is the closest thing us Brits have to a state religion, and so no senior politician can attack it openly, especially after the last 18 months.
Would some of them secretly like to privatise it for cash money? You bet, but they'll have to resort to slowly starving it rather than doing anything too destructive in the short term.
Let’s not forget that to be even eligible for these programs, you generally have to have a letter from your pastor indicating you attend church, are active in said church, and don’t smoke or drink. My parents, who are in their 70’s, have been a part of these programs for years. I’m on social security as a disabled person, and I have kept asking them why they don’t collect on social security and Medicare, as is there right, as it would be much safer and more affordable... many accidents later, they finally agree, and have switched over. However, they still think these programs are great options for younger families, not the exclusionary scams they tend to be. Please protect yourselves, and get actual insurance coverage that doesn’t exclude pre-existing conditions,
mental health services, or feminine care. I’m so glad he decided to do an episode on this topic!
I do have actual health insurance and I'm getting about as much coverage as these assholes are offering. My copay is $120 each (that includes just a phone call from my doctor) and the bill was only $167. It would have honestly been cheaper to not have insurance.
@@thisguy9819 We have decent health care through a union. I think we pay about 250. a month. My wife was just in the hospital for 2 days, 11k, our bill, 0. I spent 4 days in intensive care and eleven days total, the bill, 180k, my bill, 0. Our copays at the doctors, 20 dollars. Our deductibles, 0. We pay for prescriptions but it is a very small copay. Well, unions have mostly been busted and the general public looks down on them. Our gain, their loss.
I am honestly trying to understand how I pay 15 copay and paid basically notjing when I had surgery last year .........I see people saying the pay 50 to 150....and due to my experience and those around me,I tend to call BS but I am open to being enlightened
Check out the Opening Arguments podcast, episode #497, for a lawyer's take on these scams. It's educational _and_ entertaining.
And yes, they've worked for some people, in some circumstances (at least, if they don't stay in for long). But some people made money from Bernie Madoff, too. That's how these schemes tend to work.
I always forget that part of the Bible where Jesus says "horde all the worldly possessions and make a ton of money from people's faith and pain"
🤣
@Van Bus
ok at least it wasn't some freak traffic accident as these things usually are
But still shame on u, I dun even get the joke
Because that part of the bible doesn't exist!
It was in the fine print....it is always covered in the "fine" print!🤭
Funnily enough there is THIS passage which a lot of "Christian businesses" should take heed of
But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself?
Lk 12:20
Ironically, the actual Jesus of the bible healed non-jewish people too. He did not require them to become Jewish or to "follow him" before he did so.
But that’s bible Jesus, not republican Jesus. Republican Jesus only healed the wealthy people who paid him
Jesus ministered to Jews and Gentiles in Christ’s body there is no such designation as everyone is a Christian. So all of the procedures and rules etc of the Old Testament no longer applied
@@SE-gs6gd Everyone is not a Christian, or part of the body of Christ, unless they accept Jesus Christ as their savior. But that’s not something that Jesus said, it’s something that His followers said later on. Jesus didn’t discriminate. People do.
Jesus said that the greatest commandment is “Love God with all of your heart, mind, and soul.” And the other command is “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Very simple. Love the God who created you, and love His creation.
Man just screws it up…
@@SE-gs6gd Jesus was Jewish when he healed non-Jews. It was Paul that invented Christianity later.
Ironically, it was Jesus who raged and threw tables to drive away the profiteers from the temple.
Remember what Jesus said: "Love thy neighbor as yourself - except if thy neighbor smokes, fucks, or has any fun in life at all. And of course that love is paid with money. No, that's totally not prostitution!"
I wonder how they feel about mental health lol
"Well you know trying to take your own life is your fault, your lifestyle choice"
"Oh dear! Locked up in a psych facility to treat your psychosis? I will pray for the devil to leave your body"
@@Samson16436 They 100% just pray and don't send money for mental health I bet.
Republicans: “Socialism is bad!”
Republican moms: “We’re all sharing medical expenses!
Me: ...
But its different! You pay for someone else, then you get 3 friends to pay for you, then they get 3 people to pay for theirs...
They're honestly just fine with anything as long as you can elaborate on how it screws over poor people
@@not2be4gotten02 did you just made a pyramid scheme of a health care system ????
@@romainballant It ironically reminds me of The Office when you bring up that question.
The difference is that most people are ok with 100% socialised healthcare if you strip out the lifestyle related healthcare. America would probably be wildly in favour of a DC-backed plan that refused treatment for
1) Obesity related healthcare to people weighing over 300lb
2) Injuries related to gang-related gunshot or stab injuries
3) People who didn't pay federal taxes
If anything this segment has encouraged me to look into these programs because even in regular healthcare plans, 20% of the people suck up 80% of the money and it's all lifestyle driven.
So let me get this straight: people don't want to contribute to a public healthcare system but they will gladly pay into a private organization that is less transparent than government and is not even required to provide coverage? I will never understand the US.
Good thing the citizens of every other country in the world have their shit together
"Anything to see liberal tears" - one of their life missions.
Because for nearly a century straight, business people have waged a ruthless and devastating war against everything America claims to stand for in an effort to rake in the moolah.
They were nearly subjugated by Roosevelt's New Deal, and they have been clawing kicking and screaming ever since.
Being made to actually care for their fellow citizens? Not so long as they're kings of the planet.
If it's any consolation, it's not the entirety of the US... But it is a non-insignificant portion of the population that is ridiculously loyal to the the letter (R) and/or their selective idea of Christianity. Also not helped by the fact that many of the politicians with (R) by their names blatantly live to serve lobbyists to legislate in their favor, rather than for the people... While those same politicians use legal avenues to make peoples' ability to vote them out all the harder, continuing our fast descent into a kleptocracy/plutocracy.
...But yeah, not the entirety of the US...
It's no different then pretty much anything else; imagine if the government tracked, sold, stored etc...your information like most companies do. People would flip out. But a company asks you for all this stuff and gives you a pittance in return, people sign right up.
You, Mr. Oliver, are a national American treasure....without you, we would be less. I personally adore you and appreciate your brilliant insight into every aspect of our lives....and every ugly wrinkle of our inadequacies. I am in your debt sir
Mind I remind everybody that the plot of "Breaking Bad", meaning a high-school teacher resorting to cooking meth to pay for his cancer treatment, is by no means farfetched.
This is absolutely insane.
In Canada we say, Breaking Bad would be the shortest, most boring show if it was in Canada. Got Cancer? Treatment is provided immediately, you just gotta pay the insane hospital parking fees and for the meds after treatment/for side effects of treatment. So maybe $300?
Remember he was offered money for treatment by his friend but rejected it due to pride and spite?
@@Dhassp yeah, so? I don't think having a rich friend that pays your extensive medical bills is an option for most people
@@Dhassp because it feels like pity from his rich friends who are using 'his inventions'. If the government pays it, it is not a pity, instead it is the job of the government and your right which you deserve because you give them tax money or some other things. For example the hard work of a laborer gives them buildings which become financial hubs.
Imagine a world where we take care of each other, so we don't need to bankrupt ourselves when we get sick. Like for example, everyone could pay a small amount a month into a common fund, and if anyone gets sick, we just take the money out of there.... oh wait..
Well, single-payer healthcare systems _do_ have severe penalties for bad health decisions. That's why European governments heavily tax, and sometimes even outlaw, things that Americans enjoy -- because those governments are paying people's medical bills, they want to keep costs down, and they have the authority to literally make it illegal to be unhealthy. Americans would never accept that level of government regulation of our lives; that goes way beyond stuff like gun control and into stuff like banning your favorite snack from being sold in supermarkets.
@@deusexaethera I am european, and if a snack is banned here it would have pretty good reasons, like heavy metal in it or something like that, not really different from the US. We do tax alcohol (not sure, is this taxed in the US? Probably yes... but i have no idea) and cigarettes. We encourage people to go to the doctor when they are sick, so that things can be treated while they are treatable, this proves to be way cheaper than waiting until you have an emergency.
@@Pyriold I think they do tax alcohol, it's just a great revenue source everywhere.
The problem is that too many Americans have been brainwashed into thinking that paying for anyone else is bad. The idea of helping "lazy people" get basic food and healthcare has them clenching so tight they shit out diamonds.
@@deusexaethera It's not that bad, but often they don't ban it, they force food companies to adhere to standards, Companies like Nestlé have spent million reducing the amount of sugar in their products(finding substitutes who may or not be worse) since most have sugar taxes in Europe it also gives them a competitive edge.
Taxes are high in Europe, for just about anything, but there is something I find odd in America, for example, California a super democrat state with big support for health care, is a lot richer than most European countries(almost all of them) and could create its own state wide system, so why don't they do it, it's hard for the federal government to have these powers since they are enumerated, they could create mandates in California like in Germany, so why won't they?
Fun fact: I thought I was having a heart attack the other night. Like legit chest pains so bad I had to lie down among other scary issues and instead of having my bf rush me to the ER like he offered, I spent an hour googling how much a heart attack costs. Then decided I couldn't afford it so I told him how I'd like my things when I died and how he'd have to take my animals and care for them. I pretty much spoke my will to him and had my last meal while we watched our favorite shows. I'm 26. It was terrifying. But I'm alright I think. I'm not dead yet! Knock on wood. But yeah. American health care.
Holy shit this sounds so horrible😰😰😰 but I'm glad that you're better now! And I hope that one day you won't have to care about healthcare expenses when an emergency arrives❤️❤️❤️
Nice! That reminds me of several years ago when my parents got a 6 grand hospital bill after my high school sent me to the ER because I had a bloody nose that had been going for 30 minutes.
I had a very similar experience, but am in a lucky enough situation that insurance covered most of it, and I was able to pay for the rest of it out of pocket. I'm eternally grateful (to myself and everyone who got me to where I am) that I was able to go to the ER and not be up to my eyeballs in debt. It didn't stop the cursing though when I saw the bill and wondered who the fuck thinks this is a good system.
OP - If insurance is a problem please look for a Community Health Center near you, they tend to have sliding scale fees. Please get checked out.
@@rohansaxena4751 Thank you so much. I hope so too. I have a long list of things to get fixed. It took me years to get some dental work done and I ended up crying out of happiness because I was pain free and wasn't used to that. Hoping my body will be that way too one day!
Crazy what kind of high effort the american society puts into avoiding a health system fitting into the modern age.
Thanks, Obama
@@QarthCEO come on. Obama can't take all the credit for this. Carter, Regan, Clinton, Bush's, Trump and Biden get credit for this too 🙂 oh... don't forget Congress 👍
@@QarthCEO thanks.Let's make America great again and kick out all these idiots that think Obama is to blame just cause he's black and seriously believe in the orange douchebag.
@@nickanderson8597 Yeah, plenty of "credit" to go around 🤣
But seriously, Obama could have made single payer a pillar of the Dem platform, but he gave us Romney Care instead. He didn't even give us a public option, which he campaigned on. I'm still kinda salty about it.
Even if the president would make a humane first world country worthy healhcare reform the big pharma and insurance company bribed greedy fucks in congress and senate would block it.
A friend referred me to one of these. I read the paperwork carefully and came away with the exact same take as he is purporting here. Needless to say I didn’t fall for this scam.
Besides that, I don’t want someone who voted for Trump “praying” for me cuz I’m not at all sure who they’re praying to 🙄
Pff. You know exactly who they pay homage to.
@@nathienstanfield7320 ofc, their golden (spray-tanned) idol.
@@sjs9698 And he sure as Hell won't answer.
The irony of these people railing against socialized healthcare while also taking part in shittier socialized healthcare is...stunning.
It's only socialism if you call it socialism. Call it cake and everything is fine.
LOL I do love the irony of this scam. Socialism is bad, so join our religion-based plan where we share costs because it's what God would want us to do for one another.
Yeah, but this one has Jesus, so clearly it's somehow not socialism
@@xger21 Jesus... The socialist.
@@boosted211 they're totally fine accepting social help (like farmers) they just don't want to be the ones contributing towards the even less fortunate. Hypocrisy of the republican voter.
"I don't want universal healthcare that's socialist!....ooo let's chuck money to randos to redistribute to very specific people who claim to live by arbitrary moral values we kind of like."
and there you have the entire argument "i dont want my money going to people i dont want existing"
You forgot.."BUT DON'T LIVE BY"
@@OlEgSaS32 Exactly.
News flash: church wants your money and gives nothing back
churches were some of the first socialist institutions, but they'd rather give to God than Man. that's where socialism screws up
Nothing more Christ-like than taking every penny someone has then NOT fixing them when they have a Health emergency.
Not Christ-like. But VERY Christian.
"Praise the Lord!" [and give us all your money]
@@kenc2257 You think healthcare is free? I guess you live in fantasy land. At least the Christians are realistic.
Are you sure it was every penny?
@@tuckerbugeater Half of Jesus's miracles were "sick person who is poor gets healed for free" up to and including "this kid literally died, let me fix that for you"
Hi there from Austria! After watching this, reading a lot of the American Health System and comparing it to the Austrian, another reason to love living here.. If you are insured here (you are,even in times of unemplyment), the maximum fees per Year for hospital visits are about 220 Euros, at the pharmacy you have to pay 6 Euros if you have a receipt, Going to the doc is free (when its a private doc the Insurance covers 80 %) and you can put all of this in your tax report..
2019 I spent 2 months in coma in the ICU, had multiple Operations, 6 weeks of Reha and 6 Months in another Hospital afterwards...220€ Thx, Austrian Health Care System, you saved my life
As a German my brains simply can’t compute the line „decline coverage” for cases like that.
I had a friend in college who was a foreign exchange student from Japan and I had to explain the concept of a "pre-existing condition" to him.
America is under a pandemic of stupidity and it's not going away anytime soon. in fact, it's progressing in exposure and severity. Keep a safe distance.
I mean this is a country that when you point out that every other 1st world country has universal healthcare and by example is definitrly possible, the counter argument is yeah but we're proud to be American
@@Matty80822 these colors don't run and I am free.
@@LegendMkr7 Free to go bankrupt if you get sick!
My favorite recurring bit is whenever he says that something is ridiculously easy for anyone to start/found and then there's a pause, - and we all know what's coming next - and he's like 'and I know that, because we did'.
This show walks the walk!!
And Jesus spaketh: "that sounds like your goddamn problem"
I mean, you know, sure. It's easy to make it sound ludicrous by putting false words in the mouth of Jesus. BUT ... it's really not a stretch to put those words into the mouth of "God", à la the Old Testament. He was kind of a dick. Just ask Job. Or Moses. Whereas Jesus was a New Age hippie by comparison to his alleged father. Which is why it's really easy to believe in the Jewish perspective that Jesus wasn't God's son. They have some pretty distinct personality differences that are difficult to put together. LOL
I love that verse! Brittney 2:17!
@@justsomeperson5110 you had me in the first half ngl, lmao. before that Read More I was prepared to get angee
Let's not forget that Jesus would prioritize those who truly deserve the help. Those who've lived morally righteous, cared for others, and fallen sick without being their fault.
@@justsomeperson5110 I mean.. I'm nothing like my father lol.
Finally got my bandaids in the mail today! Glad I’m now a proud member of Johnny Care so I can stick it to ‘em!
“Freedom from insurance” is what the ACA should have been and medicare for all would have been...
Yep! people get so mad at Obama for this and that or "my prices went up" which sucks. but!-- 22 MILLION more people got insurance. Too bad the legislation coming from a republican think tank it had to be watered down so much-- of course a black guy offering the country the best it's had. R's couldn't let that slide without a fight/obstruction/racism
@@shaneh9591 It was literally republicans and middle dems refusing to back single party payer that ruined what the ACA should have been.
@@valoriethechemist Same situation Dems find themselves in now
@@shaneh9591 I still can’t afford a damn thing. I have diabetes and can’t afford the insurance. I have to pay for the “privilege” of still paying the doctor even more money. They don’t cover anything…it’s been 10 years since I’ve seen an endocrinologist…and I am forced to give the Waltons money for insulin…the same family RESPONSIBLE for this healthcare crisis we’re in…so what do I do? I don’t pay anybody ANYTHING. That expensive degree the doc paid for won’t be helped because they cost too much, the nurses who work, nope, I CAN’T help you pay for your training or family, the admin staff, NOPE, I don’t have enough money. So I will die quicker and there’s less money in the pool. Welcome to the truth.
@@shaneh9591 That’s why we don’t have President Sanders.
There's another problem there: one operation shouln't cost $300k!
True, even brain surgery. But that would require regulations to limit them.
The problem is that cost anything at all. Instead of just being paid by taxes like almost every country does.
@@Cartman4wesome paying with taxes still means there is a cost, just not to the patient directly. The cost of 300k is insane and can’t possibly be justified even with the best care
Read about Chargemasters, then plan the attacks
considering that less than 1 in 1 million people can perform brain surgery, it should cost $300K. Patients should just not be the ones paying for it.
All I know is I’d be homeless and most likely dead had my friends not spontaneously created a GofundMe after I was assaulted and almost murdered. And just as they contributed to me, I’ve been contributing happily to many friends who have faced and are facing catastrophes and even when we have insurance it doesn’t cover our costs. This country is simply a disgrace. We should have had healthcare for all aeons ago.
Yes but the top people in Insurance companies wouldn't be able to buy multiple multimillion dollar homes and yachts in South Florida.
The system may be flawed, and we certainly do some lousy shit, but the entire country a disgrace? No it isn't. We came close for four years there and we had some pretty disgraceful leadership but we are slowly wiping the shit from our face recouping losses. The healthcare system will be fixed, just takes time and rational thought.
You should have never been in that position! I’m so thankful your friends were able to help, and that you have showed that same kindness and generosity to others.
We have to do better here in America!
@@vanman6534 When it comes to healthcare, we ARE a disgrace.
People should never have to go, “okay, this month heart medicine; next month, diabetes.” Or ration their insulin. Or lose everything because of a freak accident. Or shill pictures of their kids on social media in the hopes it will go viral and people will help pay for the kid’s life-saving surgery…But most healthcare GoFundMes fail.
A nation where THAT is common is a disgrace.
@CockOfJustice Yes I believe in being prepared. I think if you check, you will find that you are just a tad overzealous in your projection of numbers of carrier groups.
This man is brilliant! Every program is relevant,fun and true! Thank you John!
Americans: "Health insurance is godless communism, so instead i go with an alternative that is basically the same as health insurance but worse in absolutely every conceivable metric"
Americans don't understand metric
It's not Universal Healthcare that is godless communism now... IT'S FUCKING INSURANCE. WHAT THE HELL, AMERICA ML
Despite widespread and constant demonstrations that privatized industries often provide worse products at higher costs than socialized versions in other countries, America continues to believe in the “free” market’s ability to solve literally anything.
@@89mike891 Ba-dum-tsss
"Health insurance is godless communism, so instead i go with an alternative that is based on communal... oh god oh fuck"
“Christian” Ministry: “We ain’t gonna cover you because alcohol was vaguely associated with the injury.”
Jesus Christ: *literally turns water into wine so people can party*
Yeah, but Jesus was a jew..
@@blechtic i wonder where the christ in christian comes from
Jesus should have turned water into vodka.
"Well, they disinfected the wound with medical alcohol, so you're on your own, Boozo!"
I like how people were talking about how his wine was the good stuff in that story
This was such a serious topic, he didn't even summon George Clooney with a finger snap this week!
@E-Jun Bae because this video comes out on HBO first then it comes out on TH-cam duh lol
@E-Jun Bae also some of us watch the bootleg copy, then switch over once it drops. That way we get to see the beginning too.
...should we send ole George a bandaid for his snapping finger?🤔
We want Clooney!!
Okay there might be ruby slippers, John, but there's a whole Emerald City.
"Must comply with a Christian lifestyle."
So judging other people as harshly as possible while you live like a complete hypocrite?
That’s the new Christianity. What does God think about this?……. Jesus wept.
Now yer gettin' it! Expect to be ostracized if you inquire about the lies and hypocrisy in relation to actual Jesus teachings.
@@kRis-rn6so I like to think of 'new Christianity' as "anti-Christianity."
Actually, this is one instance where I'm happy LGBTQ+ people and other discriminated groups are refused access. For once discrimination works out well, you don't get scammed. (By them at least)
I am perfectly fine with white supremacists/racists/homophobes scamming other white supremacists/racists/homophobes out of healthcare (You reap what you sow). I just fear for the children. That 10 year old didn't deserve that.
hell yeah brothar
uh I meant
Amen brother! thine conclusion do be correct tho
I first heard about these a couple years ago in an ad on a podcast I listened too. When I dug a little deeper I saw the Christian clause and that put me off, and I am a Christian. We are supposed to love and take care of everyone regardless of if someone share's our faith or not.
Yea. It's a real shame. Religion or culture is not an identifier that can be used to distinguish shitty individuals.
The same thing happens when a church gives you "charity" in exchange for you showing up to churc services on Sunday - even of you already belong to a church! WTF?!
“Americans will always do the right thing, only after they have tried everything else."
- Winston Churchill
We may be in for a very, very long wait on this one.
The exact same quote popped into my head while I was watching this video.
Hypocritical, but true.
Terrible person. But good quote.
_America is the only country that took the step from barbarism to decadence without the usual detour via civilisation._
[Georges Clemenceau]
I rathter think they missed their exit long ago and just keep on driving ever since.
Winston was just jealous we didn't bail the UK out of WWII sooner
Canadian here. When I get sick, I book an appointment or head down to an urgent care centre if it's particularly unpleasant. Sometimes there's a wait. People with more serious health problems go to the front of the line when they arrive for obvious reasons. Typically doesn't take long though. Then I go to the pharmacy to get whatever medication the doctor prescribed. Then I pay usually between zero and twenty dollars for it. Then there's no bill beyond that, because when you cut out the marketing and executive yacht budgets, health care costs way less than what Americans pay for it. Seriously y'all are being ripped off hard and it doesn't even buy better care.
But at least we don’t have socialism. Besides Social Security, Medicare, the VA. And yes, I’m aware these aren’t really socialism. They’re social programs.
@@kconway2263 Help help i have fallen down the sar chasm. It's fine i don't need help really it's fun down here.
Some things work well when privately owned, other things simply become a 24/7 festival of price gouging. Guess which category health care falls in to. :)
@@kconway2263surely hcsm, by definition are socialism?
Another Canadian. Even our system has problems but it's still much better than what the US has. Hopefully, the push for privatization in Canada fails and we can truly focus on improving our public health system.
"Cigna... a company whose logo is a cartoon man standing in a field as his head explodes from dealing with their customer service." Nearly spit my coffee across the room from laughing so hard at this one. LOL. So true.
Yeah, i laughed out loud too!
@@twoofthree LOL more like a telephone tree .... of death.
Yes that hit close to home. CIgna is the devil. If I weren't permanently disabled (and irrevocably denied disability benefits by Cigna through the insurance my employer paid for and which I VERY clearly qualified for), I'd be DAMN SURE to very carefully scrutinize any benefits packages from prospective employers and NEVER accept a job with any employer doing business with Cigna. Again, they're the devil.
We need universal health care, not religious organizations and their beliefs, determining who can and can't get health coverage. We also need to move Healthcare away from our jobs. It would be nice, if America joined the rest of the actual, free world.
And I thought religion was just a way to get into heaven. Somebody had the idea--let's use it to bilk people out of money for healthcare services, and then turn down care for just about any reason imaginable.
@@jolenejones6243 it's the prosperity gospel all over again. "Send us your money and we will definitely heal you."
The basic idea seems open to abuse, in this case by greedy insurance companies taking advantage of naive people.
It's pretty clear what they're doing should be made illegal and this practice should be properly formalised and regulated.
It’s beyond messed up. The only reason I can’t just leave my job despite intense burnout and vicarious trauma is because everyone in my household has healthcare through my work (which I still have to pay for out of my paycheque). So I have to wait until I can get another job…during a pandemic.
No. Having healthcare being determined by politics is morally even worse.
Mah' John always knows how to put a smile on my face as he shares annoying, sad, and frustrating information with me. Bless him and his three bandaids.
Praise The Holy Trinity! The knee Band-Aid, the elbow Band-Aid, and the little funny shaped knuckle Band-Aid with like, flappy things on it, that never sticks for more than an hour. Amen.
...do they ship overseas 🤔
@@Mondfischli Nope. US only, unfortunately.
A few years ago in Italy my 84 years old grandma got tubercolosis. She had to stay in a special room in the hospital isolated to not infect other people, the room was very high tech and entirely for her. The hospital was among the best in Italy and there were some very good and competent doctors trying to cure her. At the end fortunately she recovered completely and she's still alive. She stayed in the hospital for more than one month, the result? She didn't have to pay anything, on the contrary, the state gave her a little pension of invalidity for about a year (and I admit maybe this last thing was too much because she doesn't need money)
Oh shit that’s terrible. I really hope she’s doing better now.
If an American, someone there that is crazy "patriotic", read the part about not paying and receiving something for free, that person would say it's communism
@@Darth_Baxter Yes, she is alive and healty despite being almost 90 years old
@@reptilev8625 YES! HELL FUCKING YEAH! Oh man words can’t describe the excitement and joy I have for her. Thank you kind sir for updating me on her health.
Welcone to europe.
"The problem is, some are going in the wrong direction. Take Florida..."
Nothing new here... Lol
"Healthcare" insurance is the biggest scam ever.
You are a certified clown
@@tsherman393 okay tuff guy
@@ToxicTerrance I respect people who are self-aware like you much better over anybody that denies harsh reality like the one you replied to. Take good care there in FL.
After the part with "take florida"... full stop right there :D
“We don’t cover obesity-related troubles”
You guys do realize that obesity is mostly rampant amongst the lower classes, right? Real Christian mindset you got there.
You think they want poor people?
Even if the system were to be implemented perfectly, it would basically be Christian socialism, and at that point there's no excuse to not adopt universal health care instead.
Here, let me give you an American politics refresher: Socialism is when the _government_ does stuff, and if the government does a lot of stuff, that's communism.
Their excuse seems to be the "lifestyle" bit, where they can decide who gets treatment based on religious beliefs. Good old US...
If the system is rotten and corrupted it will always end up in gutter. I have single payer insurance as part of universal healthcare and so far it's two months to get a 15 bucks checks for a medical procedure the insurance company legally bound to with a contract.
Even when they are taught it's wrong they still naturally grow towards what makes sense. But they do it in any way they can without being aware or admitting to it, and while only helping their own little clans instead of the country or world. That's what 80+ years of fear-mongering and barebones regulated capitalism does to a country I guess.
When talking about „implemented perfectly“, you assume that there is a correct and unique Christian belief about what sickness is from a religious standpoint. But it’s a spectrum that might go from „Sickness is caused by the Devil, and we are paying for everything.“ to „Sickness is send from God as a punishment for your sins, and we’re not paying for your sins or interfering with Gods will.“ to: „If it gets better, this is a sign from God that you turned your life around, and then we’re paying. But if it doesn’t get better, you clearly refused God’s offer for forgiveness, and then there’s nothing we can do for you, you are clearly not praying hard enough and sincerely enough“ or any other ridiculous case in between.
How would you „perfectly implement“ an idea that you haven’t even really agreed on in the first place. Ask the Pope?
Not paying for „Life Choices“ and not paying for an innocent child having a brain tumor have one thing in common: not paying! They make the „reasons“ up as they go or after the fact. There’s no way to „perfectly implement“ what is insanity.
P.S. of course any normal insurance will be having similar discussions and decisions about what is covered, but there at least it’s in the contract, and it doesn’t depend on wether someone thinks you are worthy in God‘s eyes. And nobody is pretending that their catalogue of covered treatments is depending on the right interpretation of God’s will.
What I‘m getting at: this is a pretty ridiculous concept halfway between just begging for help („go fund me“) and a proper organization that was invented for that problem („insurance“). Even insurances are never „implemented perfectly“: emotions and beliefs should have nothing to do with it whatsoever: as soon as you start looking at single cases, you are making ethical choices, that should only depend on rational arguments: what is the minimum care everybody deserves, what is the chance for rehabilitation, what is the probable quantity or quality of life that can be regained etc. - these are difficult decisions, and the policy guidelines should have ideally be decided from a standpoint of anonymity, and personal beliefs should stay out of it as much as possible.
These ministries sound like they’re practicing the “shitty socialism” that they’re so scared about...
And as a bonus they threw in homophobia and slut shaming
I mean they are... Medicare is a system you pay into so that a governing body can pay on behalf of others’ bills as well as your own. It’s just socialized medicine that gives no assurances that they will actually pay out and limits membership based on religion.
Is there not a significance to voluntary help versus coercive?
@@mookyss no, none, no significance whatsoever. That's not how American citizenship has ever or will ever work. No matter who you are or what you do you're an American, and we pay into that as citizens
I don't have children, but I have never and will never wonder why I pay for other people's children to go to school for free
@@mookyss Not when the real-world result of that is a big chunk of the country getting screwed over because the available charity money doesn't cover what companies feel like charging for the service in question.
This sounds like socialized healthcare without any of the built-in social safety net. Like they decided to take the idea of single payer health care system, dumped in all the greed of private insurance companies, and took away the "insurance" part of it for good measure.
But they get unlimited prayers, so...
So, it's a con.
@@AbsentWithoutLeaving They better include thoughts and hopes with those prayers! Just lump in all of the ineffective health care in one plan.
I'm sure praying for somebody has helped so many
It's wild we just haven't figured out how to do healthcare. Weird. Guess there's just no way to do it huh? /s
It's weird that everyone blames politicians, but they are just people. No one wants to get involved but expects better results.
Clearly, if it were possible to provide healthcare, LOTS of countries would have done so!
nope. only profit. that's all americans do.
The last thing I was expecting to see today was Robin Nelson sarcastically calling out America's healthcare system under a Last Week Tonight episode
Xycron. no John told us right off there IS a right way to do this but we don't do this we do it the WRONG way. Funniest line to start off the show. Then he spends the rest of the time telling us why.
Wouldn't have surprised me if the rejections came back with a note:
"PRAY HARDER"
It has.
My boyfriend kept urging me to watch this weeks episode because he was excited to tell me he bought the first aid kit for us. He’s a keeper. 😸💜
Never let that man go
@@adventurenlifelive4031 unless you get scratched three times, when you might need new guy with new kit.
Incorrect. He bought the first aid kit for someone else - and then someone else paid for your first aid kit. Did you not even watch the episode? It's a community thing paying for other people's healthcare, not your own
I almost always watch every episode from start to finish. Very engaging and informative
I think m'Wanda's hair got even bigger, if possible
PRAISE BE!
Yeah that is the biggest hair I ever seen! 😂
Gonna fill the entire room soon.
Just you wait until the follow up episode! They'll have to use a wide angle lens to get the whole thing in the shot!
It is a mark of honor. She is allowed to wear hair this big because she can summon managers with her mind.
I found that, generally, if something contains the word "ministry" it is some kinda scam. Religion is crazy.
ministry is also another word to say "department" in a governmental capacity tho ;) for example, germanys department of defense is called ministry of defense, or "Verteidigungsministerium". because department actually translates to "Behörde", which is less powerful.
@Van To Why are you here?
@@lundylow Because they are bot scammers usually.
Yep! it immediately implies you are entering a holy authoritarian vertical marketing scheme and you are at the bottom, but ya know... Jesus and stuff so gimme your money, you're forgiven of all your sin!
Have you read the Hitchens book, "god is not great. How Religion Poisons Everything"?
This is just the state of Christianity in the US. Ministers need private jets because they don't want to rub elbows with the common folks who fly. It is the age of the Great Grift.
Well please do keep in mind 99% of churches are not anything like that. And most of us don't think that's a prudent way to have spent that money either.
This episode makes me think of this song...
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@@dosmastrify 99% gtfoh
@@dosmastrify A relatively small number of bad actors are the ruin of many systems. They don’t have to be the majority.
The blind leads the blind everyone is in the ditch. Problem is either they don’t know it’s a ditch or they do and they like the ditch. The ditch is safe. So sad that so many people who think they’re “God fearing Christians” are gonna be sitting right up in hellfire wondering how they got there. Smdh…
Are there any businesses/organizations with the words "Christian" or "Family Values" in them that aren't frauds?
Hobby Lobby at least seems to be genuine in their faith.
@@spongeintheshoe would chic fila also count?
The smirk I have on my face when John says “and the reason I know that is because…”. You just know some wild stuff is going down
Having healthcare tied to employment is responsible for insane amounts of depression, people working jobs they hate just for healthcare...ugh. I've been there!
Which, ironically, increases your need to use that healthcare.
It's a feature, not a bug :)
And now I want a can of surge. Thank you profile pic.
You can thank government regulation for that.
@@mookyss Herp Derp government bad Derp
As soon as I see the word "ministry," I know I'm about to learn about a scam.
Spot on!!!
NSS... Because the media only talks about ministries that are scams.
@@kaufmanat1 True, and my comment fits perfectly with the topic here.
@@catinthepeng2686 indeed, just pointing out a confirmation bias the media creates against ministries.
@@cinemaparadiso5402 Reported.
Praise be, Wanda-Jo
How can stuff like this be even legal in a modern developed country.
Shouldnt like, I dont know, the government ban these? And provide all basic health care via a state wide system?
Lol you're European aren't you?
I agree with the second but don't see why it should be banned. People choose to sign up to it, if you don't like the system don't sign up for it, it's quite simple.
Awwwww, that's adorable you actually still think that's how government works.
@@mnm1273 because like a pyramid scheme, people are tricked into signing up for it and then left out to dry.
@@thisguy9819 Except they are clearly told that none of it is a contract and that if you break their religious standard you won't get funded, so there's nothing inconsistent or dishonest. It's their choice.
America, the only country where conning people out of their hard earned money isn't just allowed, but actually encouraged.
Do you swear to tell the truth, so help you {Insert corrupt deity here} ?
You just described capitalism.
I remember seeing a comic where an alien was describing how the humans had invented something called 'business' where they steal each other's money back and forth
And then it's called freedom.
_America, the only country where conning people out of their hard earned money isn't just allowed, but actually encouraged._
Only when it's allied with religion - ideally, Christianity.
Praise be to Mega Wife Wanda Jo Oliver! And also: a show of her own.
Or at least a recurring segment. She (and her magical, awe-inspiring hair) is a show-stealer.
I don't say it too often but I really do apriciated the amount of knowledge and insight John and his team provides us with every episode.
"We've had a successful history of sharing medical bills 100% for every eligible need ever submitted."
Yeah no shit you deem every bill you don't share as inelligible
Yeah the nerve of that sentence. Like only a moron could miss the true message behind it.
@@Vespyr_ The problem is that there are plenty of morons to go around.
Which their naïve and gullible members read as "every medical bill is covered 100%!"
" The problem is some are going in the opposite direction. Take Florida..." - Surprising absolutely nobody...
😂😂
Florida is basically America's dick. It's fun but it shouldn't be allowed to make decisions.
@@dragongirl7978 Florida gets a lot of crap, huh
@@ItsMzPhoenix For very good reason.
@@ItsMzPhoenix Florida deals in a lot of crap
The whole idea of the story of the Good Samaritan was the fact that they, a Samaritan, helped someone who was not part of their tribe.
They are portraying that personification of the parable , by excluding people who aren’t like them from coverage.
It’s like they didn’t even read the Bible
Damn, I didn't even think of it that way. That's an excellent point. And so typical of these people.
jesus literally healed prostitutes, i wouldnt count on these people to actually read the bible, better not take the chance of turning atheist!
They never do....
Even better, I think before the Good Samaritan bit, a few people from the man's own group walk by him without offering any help.
Also, just think of the implied racism in that parable..
As a Canadian this is a key reason I would never want to move to the US.
Personally it's the fact I could be legally killed in numerous states just for being gay and trans, and I could be fired from my job for the same reasons, and I'd have no option of legal recourse against harassment based on me being gay and trans.
Also the lack of health-care.
As an American i couldn't mind being Canadian....
It’s like Thomas Edison said: I didn’t fail. I found 10,000 ways not to run a healthcare system.
Edison probably claimed he invented healthcare too
True. The only healthcare member Edison lost was that one elephant.
@@winterbeaches nah. He wasn’t there. Tragic what happened to topsy, but the Edison part is a myth
@@cartersmith8662: But that episode of _Bob's Burger's!_ /s
@@sdfkjgh I know! How could a cartoon lie.