James Baldwin Debates William F. Buckley (1965)

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  • @DenEColt
    @DenEColt 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7493

    Buckley observes that Jewish and Italian communities were more energetic in getting ahead than were Black Americans, but he doesn't acknowledge the obvious difference: despite severe discrimination, Jews and Italians were never slaves or grew up with that knowledge and experience hanging over them for generations or had to contend with their former and bitter owners and those owners' descendants living side by side with them and who acted to deliberately deny black participation in the system.

  • @jsingh106
    @jsingh106 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2728

    Thank you for uploading this film. In my opinion it is a truly important recording of the evolution of our thinking in our country. It's a shame it is not a part of our required knowledge.

  • @dcbandnerd
    @dcbandnerd 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8068

    The depth of Baldwin's humanity, eloquence, and empathy is astounding.

  • @picassomicasso1
    @picassomicasso1 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4061

    Baldwin was a Brilliant man. Cambridge Union has my respect for allowing this sort of debate in that era.

  • @EscherSketcher
    @EscherSketcher 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2515

    After listening to Baldwin's amazing debate, the standing ovation at the end gave me chills!

  • @numchucklee4279
    @numchucklee4279 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4771

    wow, this Baldwins analysis still mostly applies today - 50 years after this debate...

  • @willywhitten4918
    @willywhitten4918 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4365

    Buckley, true to form comes off as an obnoxious insincere rhetorician. Even his voice, his posture and modulation is that of a snake. Just his introductory remarks made me ill and anxious for sanity.

  • @deeliciousplum
    @deeliciousplum 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1215

    I really think that there is a need for such igniting, challenging, and enlightening debates. Yes and presently, there are scores of debates on an equally as numerous topics. Within my little thoughts, few debaters are as rich in experience and few are hosts to such well formed arguments as these two gentlemen. Thanks for sharing this.

  • @TheSanityInspector
    @TheSanityInspector 12 ปีที่แล้ว +545

    Thanks for uploading this in one piece!

  • @islezeus
    @islezeus 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2428

    Buckley did not really address the theme of the debate...

  • @musjam2
    @musjam2 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1951

    Did you notice when James Baldwin finished speaking the entire audience stood and applauded, mind you there was a FULL house! When Mr. Buckley finished with his speech, during the applause, the cameras panned the room and I noticed a good portion of the audience had left!

  • @botrrun9399
    @botrrun9399 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1280

    Preach, somethings are timeless.

  • @ThyGeekGoddessMuze
    @ThyGeekGoddessMuze 11 ปีที่แล้ว +779

    I was born the year of this debate, but seeing it for the first time today! I am wowed! Thank you for sharing it. Had people listened to us then, we wouldn't have this decimated middle class problem now.

  • @uknowwho97
    @uknowwho97 11 ปีที่แล้ว +587

    Thank you so much for putting this up, it's helped me make sense of a nonsensical justice that fails to value the life of an African - American child over the past few days.

  • @b7k1l8yn
    @b7k1l8yn 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1691

    Mr Baldwin was Outstanding.

  • @graniteminerman
    @graniteminerman 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1411

    true, buckley didn't really address the contention that the "American dream" is at the expense of blacks. this would be too dangerous an indictment of so called "capitalism". He mostly just chided them for not being the same as other oppressed groups who were not slaves, and said there are rising social conditions in the US, so take advantage of that. conveniently he did not mention that it was also an argument for retaining slavery that living standards for slaves were rising.

  • @drewm4355
    @drewm4355 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1615

    A simply elegant and insightful speech by Baldwin. It is not just pure math and economics. It is deeply personal and human. Wish free market delusionist understood this.

  • @DrJayWestern
    @DrJayWestern 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1839

    buckley is a cartoon villain

  • @numchucklee4279
    @numchucklee4279 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1579

    cannot listen to buckley

  • @shamoney1275
    @shamoney1275 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1788

    James baldwin wow

  • @ricelaker
    @ricelaker 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1205

    Was this held in the UK becasue there is no way in 1965 America could this be held? Just asking.

  • @PrincessLovesBboys
    @PrincessLovesBboys 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1044

    Thanks for posting!
    What do you think was going through James Baldwin's mind
    from 45:55 - 46:05?

  • @graniteminerman
    @graniteminerman 11 ปีที่แล้ว +821

    44:15
    Is Buckley comparing college to slavery?

  • @sultanavasilisa
    @sultanavasilisa 11 ปีที่แล้ว +377

    “True art awakens the
    Extraordinary
    Ovation” Hafiz, The Gift .... Baldwin then and now

  • @1awareness
    @1awareness 11 ปีที่แล้ว +462

    Does anyone know more about the background of this debate? Could anyone suggest a book to read about this debate?

  • @daveflick12
    @daveflick12 9 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    very interesting

  • @ladonnaal
    @ladonnaal 12 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    fierce

  • @sultanavasilisa
    @sultanavasilisa 11 ปีที่แล้ว +391

    buckley- oh yes brother for you- the fire next time.