I've been talking about company agents talking to other companies for years. And at some point negotiating with and closing deals with companies. I used to say websites talking to websites. So many head tilts over the years, haha. I'm excited to hear that 1) I'm not nuts, and 2) the time has come! Thanks!
Hi Devin, I think your approach makes perfect sense from both a software engineering and a business engineering perspective. If we analyze the processes of technological and business innovation in various areas, this process of packaging functions and components into broader, process-oriented structures becomes clear. Let's keep this conversation going on 👍
I 100% agree with your general assessment and it matches how I’ve been thinking about the space lately. However, I wouldn’t say SaaS goes away, just dramatically changes away from UIs to proprietary backend systems built for API calls from client chat systems. I just don’t see every company building out their own SaaS replacements, nor can I see how a templated marketplace can work beyond very high level workflows that basically already exists. Great talk!
I appreciate your approach to building AI agent. I have seen some very messy n8n agents builds. This compartmented approach is similar to the concept of object-oriented programming. I just starting to learn n8n and got my self hosted instance online a couple days ago. I have a lot to learn but its such an easy tool to work with and the feature set is so large that mind keeps wandering off thinking of all the crazy stuff i can build with this platform. Ill be the first to sign up, If you ever decide to offer course on building these foundations agents. I think you have a lot to offer to this community.
Great Content, very well articulated and presented. I have a follow-up question - do you mean that the future is for businesses providing platforms for building Ai Agents (like n8n) and any room or scope for businesses building vertical agents/apps would fade away?
I get your vision man, the more im looking into this I completely understand where you see this going, Im thinking about presenting Pinecone as a way to implement AI agents in our own internal workflow at work, especially B2B companies in Saas should definitly start offering this as a service or product on top of their other offerings
Incredible. Definitely opened my eyes to what will be. The problem will be getting people to understand that you need to wait for the cake not stuff your face now and pay for it later.
I have been thinking about this full time. 💯 agree. 👍 Spot on!! A lot of tactics that you’re mentioned are mostly limited to current stte if tech around AI and AI databases etc.. that’s likely to evolve no one is sure about how, but its a good direction. Also i do not subscribe to generic agents, rather I subscribe to function X role X industry specific agents. Ground approach here will be for large enterprises. Ill think of them as custom software of today cs off the shelf.
Another way to think is that agents are not replacing SAAS, rather they are replacing the user using the SAAS- Customer service agent, project management agent, CFO agent. If the customer service executive is being replaced by a customer service agent then it really doesn’t matter what the agent uses to get the job done.
Hey Devin! Great video man. I'm wondering, what is the benefit of creating a foundation agent on top of a SaaS API? Wouldn't it be just better to give the Workflow Agent access to the SaaS API? Not 100% sure what the value is of adding that extra layer in between
It's for modularity. In the future, you'll want to build more and more agents that will use the same tools/API's. If you have an agent that can take execute any API endpoint on a given platform, you can reuse that agent for any other agent that needs to take actions on that platform.
Most of the Agentic frameworks are missing the Human in the Loop. Agents replacing humans is a misconception. If it needs to be succesful these frameworks or the OS may be the new paradigm need to incorporate the human in the loop. We need the capability to steer the agent flow.
@@customaistudio I recently found out Copilotkit. Just two days back. I was bulding a customer onboarding agent with Crew. But after coming across Copilotkit I have rearchitected. What i like most about it is there is great potential of seemless integration between agent and the application. Application and state and agent state are communicable. Recommend trying out
The implementation is easy if you understand my talk talk & talk. You can use ChatGPT or any other resource to learn implementation. That's not interesting to me.
I had to tune away from your video after I became tired and distracted by your use of "right?" Great content, but the over-use of "right" and "like" became overwhelming and diminished your authority in your domain.
This is how I speak when I'm sharing ideas that I haven't fully fleshed out or written extensively on to organize my thoughts. This channel is not an entertainment channel, the content is what matters to me.
Another way to think is that agents are not replacing SAAS, rather they are replacing the user using the SAAS- Customer service agent, project management agent, CFO agent. If the customer service executive is being replaced by a customer service agent then it really doesn’t matter what the agent uses to get the job done.
Simply amazing presentation and discussion. Pls continue the "AI Agent Architecture" as a series. Thanks Devin.
You're the man. This is, alone, a masterclass in AI Agents, Business Strategy and for good observers: a masterclass in How to Sell AI Agents.
Thank you!
Very solid, I think about this daily. I could listen to hours more on this; cool to see others working towards the same things
I've been talking about company agents talking to other companies for years. And at some point negotiating with and closing deals with companies. I used to say websites talking to websites. So many head tilts over the years, haha. I'm excited to hear that 1) I'm not nuts, and 2) the time has come! Thanks!
The time has certainly come!
Hi Devin, I think your approach makes perfect sense from both a software engineering and a business engineering perspective. If we analyze the processes of technological and business innovation in various areas, this process of packaging functions and components into broader, process-oriented structures becomes clear. Let's keep this conversation going on 👍
Excellent thought exercise on where the industry is going. Thank you for sharing! :)
I 100% agree with your general assessment and it matches how I’ve been thinking about the space lately. However, I wouldn’t say SaaS goes away, just dramatically changes away from UIs to proprietary backend systems built for API calls from client chat systems. I just don’t see every company building out their own SaaS replacements, nor can I see how a templated marketplace can work beyond very high level workflows that basically already exists.
Great talk!
Yea I think you're right.
Spot on
At last, we have Worflow as a Service. Great stuff.
Yep, the natural end point.
Bingo
Your view on this is very helpful! Thanks for sharing such amazing and valuable content!!
how would you monitor all these agents?
Loved to see that little HD on the settings button, thanks ! :)
Yep haha, glad it's better
Thank you Devin, a very informative and enlightening video... exceptionally motivational as well. Very, very much appreciated!😊
I appreciate your approach to building AI agent. I have seen some very messy n8n agents builds. This compartmented approach is similar to the concept of object-oriented programming. I just starting to learn n8n and got my self hosted instance online a couple days ago. I have a lot to learn but its such an easy tool to work with and the feature set is so large that mind keeps wandering off thinking of all the crazy stuff i can build with this platform. Ill be the first to sign up, If you ever decide to offer course on building these foundations agents. I think you have a lot to offer to this community.
Me too
This makes complete sense to me. Thank you Devin!
Great Content, very well articulated and presented. I have a follow-up question - do you mean that the future is for businesses providing platforms for building Ai Agents (like n8n) and any room or scope for businesses building vertical agents/apps would fade away?
Vertical agents will be successful for a long while. It's very challenging to build general agents.
I get your vision man, the more im looking into this I completely understand where you see this going, Im thinking about presenting Pinecone as a way to implement AI agents in our own internal workflow at work, especially B2B companies in Saas should definitly start offering this as a service or product on top of their other offerings
Exactly
Incredible. Definitely opened my eyes to what will be.
The problem will be getting people to understand that you need to wait for the cake not stuff your face now and pay for it later.
Exactly. There's no issue in using what works now, but people should be aware the whole infrastructure will change eventually.
I have been thinking about this full time. 💯 agree. 👍 Spot on!!
A lot of tactics that you’re mentioned are mostly limited to current stte if tech around AI and AI databases etc.. that’s likely to evolve no one is sure about how, but its a good direction.
Also i do not subscribe to generic agents, rather I subscribe to function X role X industry specific agents.
Ground approach here will be for large enterprises. Ill think of them as custom software of today cs off the shelf.
AI databases will definitely need to evolve, otherwise, it'll be very difficult and costly to actually operate a business fully with Agents.
Great video man !
Another great video, Devin 👍
Awesome content Devin!!! Thank you
Hey, Do you use obsidian for PPT?
Google PPT
Another way to think is that agents are not replacing SAAS, rather they are replacing the user using the SAAS- Customer service agent, project management agent, CFO agent. If the customer service executive is being replaced by a customer service agent then it really doesn’t matter what the agent uses to get the job done.
Hey Devin! Great video man. I'm wondering, what is the benefit of creating a foundation agent on top of a SaaS API? Wouldn't it be just better to give the Workflow Agent access to the SaaS API? Not 100% sure what the value is of adding that extra layer in between
It's for modularity. In the future, you'll want to build more and more agents that will use the same tools/API's. If you have an agent that can take execute any API endpoint on a given platform, you can reuse that agent for any other agent that needs to take actions on that platform.
Hi Devin, do you use only n8n or also voiceflow for chatbots? Great content!🔥
I use n8n now, but voiceflow is frankly easier if you're just creating a chatbot.
Hey, great vid! Are there any agents that build agents already out there?
not that I know of
There it is! Amazing vid.
Enjoying your vids, but can’t get the discord link working.
Try this: discord.gg/PmcQG9TX
I think this is what Sam Altman meant when he said we will have our first one person 1bn company with AI
insightful! thanks!
Love what your doing
yes, exactly
Thanks 🙏
Most of the Agentic frameworks are missing the Human in the Loop. Agents replacing humans is a misconception. If it needs to be succesful these frameworks or the OS may be the new paradigm need to incorporate the human in the loop. We need the capability to steer the agent flow.
Yea I completely agree.
@@customaistudio I recently found out Copilotkit. Just two days back. I was bulding a customer onboarding agent with Crew. But after coming across Copilotkit I have rearchitected. What i like most about it is there is great potential of seemless integration between agent and the application. Application and state and agent state are communicable. Recommend trying out
I have no idea what the point of the rambling for 40 minutes was…
TLDR; Agents will be the primary users of your tech stack and the effect of that will reverberate across everything
This is actually pretty profound. I for one salute you putting it together. Slight rambling but the core idea here is spot on.
Yea I posted this one without writing and organizing my thoughts fully, just wanted to get the ideas out there quickly.
Only talk talk talk & talk..no implementation no code..
The implementation is easy if you understand my talk talk & talk. You can use ChatGPT or any other resource to learn implementation. That's not interesting to me.
I had to tune away from your video after I became tired and distracted by your use of "right?" Great content, but the over-use of "right" and "like" became overwhelming and diminished your authority in your domain.
This is how I speak when I'm sharing ideas that I haven't fully fleshed out or written extensively on to organize my thoughts. This channel is not an entertainment channel, the content is what matters to me.
Another way to think is that agents are not replacing SAAS, rather they are replacing the user using the SAAS- Customer service agent, project management agent, CFO agent. If the customer service executive is being replaced by a customer service agent then it really doesn’t matter what the agent uses to get the job done.
Exactly! Which will cause major changes throughout the entire market and business ops.