*Some other videos you might like:* Report: A's spending more to avoid grievance 📺 th-cam.com/video/fplywUKfMiw/w-d-xo.html Rays REVEAL 2025 Stadium details, while MLB visits Florida politicians 📺 th-cam.com/video/Ohnl4bIQlVM/w-d-xo.html An AMAZING SF Giants City Connect concept for 2025 📺 th-cam.com/video/Y3XvF6UeTxk/w-d-xo.html Roof & HVAC issues COMPLICATE Arizona Diamondbacks future 📺 th-cam.com/video/PljUNV76kSw/w-d-xo.html 76ers New Arena Vote OPPOSED by Location & Benefits 📺 th-cam.com/video/eL2zvhEFOL8/w-d-xo.html Did Juan Soto sign an IMPOSSIBLE contract with Mets? 📺 th-cam.com/video/hjyU4BmgtaU/w-d-xo.html San Antonio Spurs & Alamodome: "Project Marvel" is TOO BIG? 📺 th-cam.com/video/b0Ieov-lNtg/w-d-xo.html Willy Adames signs HISTORIC SF Giants contract 📺 th-cam.com/video/aW1TEdNzUt4/w-d-xo.html Vegas Sphere has ideas to REVERSE financial struggles 📺 th-cam.com/video/xd_4KaOZgbM/w-d-xo.html Rays Uncertainty: FIVE POSSIBLE outcomes 📺 th-cam.com/video/A1T8oTsRji4/w-d-xo.html Dodger Stadium QUIETLY digging $100M Clubhouse Upgrades 📺 th-cam.com/video/POiE0-wnVQY/w-d-xo.html Does YES vote equal "NO DEAL" for Rays Ballpark Project? 📺 th-cam.com/video/brLVHKdmQ88/w-d-xo.html St. Petersburg APPROVES funding for Rays Stadium [Highlights] 📺 th-cam.com/video/0s0gWCS6v1Q/w-d-xo.html
@ltrev1979 then why did two teams in privately-funded stadia just meet in the WS? Or the Giants winning three WS in 5 years after winning zero the previous 55?
@@archstanton6102 Utah would be a candidate for a western team to relocate (Athletics) or an expansion team. For a team like the Rays, staying on the east coast is quite important given the divisions and whatnot, and I think Orlando or Raleigh-Durham is more suitable.
@@BlackSaiyan24 If teams move to a different geographic region, then just realign the divisions. They are not fixed permanently. Actually, some of teams should move to a different division right now. For example, why are the Pirates not in the NL East, to maintain an intrastate rivalry with the Phillies? Atlanta is further west of Pittsburgh by several degrees of longitude, so the Braves should be in the NL Central. In my lifetime, two teams not only switched divisions, but leagues: Brewers from AL to NL, and Astros from NL to AL.
@@pocklecod I am in Indianapolis, a city in the same class as Nashville and Kansas City, and I don't think there is much interest in Major League baseball here. This isn't traditionally a "baseball city". Football and basketball are both more popular, and more youths play soccer than baseball. We have a AAA team that is successful and well-liked. Personally, I don't "follow" baseball, but I do enjoy occasionally attending a AAA Indianapolis Indians game, just to relax and be outside on a warm summer night. I don't care much who wins or loses. I don't see me feeling the same way if I was spending 5x as much for a Major League game.
@@stevehofer3482 I don't understand why Indianapolis doesn't seek to lure the White Sox out of Chicago. That wouldn't be moving too far, and the White Sox would have the entire state of Indiana to themselves, rather than sharing the Chicago area with the Cubs. Especially if the White Sox could be purchased by a new owner, and I expect that there must be a few extremely wealthy people in Indiana with the financial means to purchase an MLB team, then a move to Indiana could revitalize a franchise that just set a record for most losses in a single season (since 1901). AAA is minor league baseball. It is good to have such a team, especially if your city is not very large, but if your city is larger than several cities with MLB teams and growing at a healthy rate, then you should aspire to have an MLB team. Just as in life, if you have good skills and education, then you aspire to reach the top of your profession, not settle for a lower rung, especially when there are seemingly lesser people who have attained great heights.
@stevehofer3482 Yeah that's a big factor. Entertainment money is not infinite, most people cannot afford to attend more than a few pro sports events per year. What can happen is that people flock to whatever team is doing well and any team that goes on a 10-20 year run of not being great will struggle to create revenue and could eventually move again anyway. I grew up in a four sport city and only ever went to games for two of the teams (baseball and hockey). That's fine if there are 5 million people in an area some of whom will certainly prefer the other sports but the pie is just so much smaller in a market if 2 mil.
I have lived in the Nashville area all my life. I agree with the mayor. "Yes, it would be great, but we don't have the taxpayers money to finance 2 stadium projects". MLB needs the Rays and A's situation straightened out first. I hope to still be alive when the MLB Nashville Sounds happens.
OH! “… the first credible ownership group that materializes…” All of our focus about Nashville has lacked the one key requirement… an ownership willing to pay for stuff. Brodie might have said that Nashville is keeping the door open, but that statement- and the comment about an owner willing to foot the bill- closes that door.
What a concept! Have things that families can afford to attend!! Are you seriously telling me normal families should get the same consideration as elites😉? I’m in Vancouver. We have Single A minor league baseball. It’s the absolute best place to go for families. Affordable, fun, and entertaining as these players are trying to climb the ladder. So they work hard.
@@jeandelisi9441 How can you say that "Triple A baseball is superior to MLB in terms of quality of play," when the AAA players are those players who are not good enough to play in the major leagues?
I was a Nashville resident for 13 years(2009-2022). I left because it was obvious that Nashville would continue to give large tax breaks to corporations and allow housing developers to bulldoze our neighborhoods unrecognizable and I would never be able to own a home there. I know a lot of residents feel the same way. And after Geodis Park and the new Titans stadium, I think the locals have soured on not only publicly funding another stadium, but continuing to bulldoze the city’s history for entertainment afforded and championed by the very few.
Montrael is the largest city without a MLB team....they do not want to pay the expansion fee...they are ready for a team to relocate there. Everything is in place including the beloved name: Expos. There is no other city east of the Mississippi that can handle an expansion team other than Montrael.
Montreal is in Canada, not the USA. It appear to me that so many people are not realizing that. I've been to Canada and I have to cross a border and get questioned by their border patrol when I do so. Usually, except in rural areas, there are long waits to cross the border. Usually a passport is required to cross the border, and the majority of people in the USA do not have a passport. Also, many people are unable to cross the border, due to having a criminal record and other factors.
They are not ready for a team to relocate there. Renovations to Olympic Stadium won’t be completed until 2028, and that’s assuming the renovations are baseball friendly.
Nashville "not ready for baseball" means "We don't want your relocation hand-me-downs." They want their own homegrown team. They know MLB is years away. When MLB is ready for expansion, Nashville will be there and will be a lock to do whatever they need to do. The location, demographics, and economics are just too good. They may be so good in fact, that they may not need the city's help.
If all teams move to Las Vegas (or threaten to) that'll get those fans minds right and willing to hand over lumps of money to the billionaire bros. of MLB
One of the venues that the mayor was hinting at is the existing minor league ballpark for the AAA Nashville Sounds. Compared to the A's and Rays' temporary homes it's small. Just over 8,000 fixed seats and 10,000 including "berm seating." So, that may not work for a home while a new stadium is constructed. It;s also less than ten years old. Construction cost was around $91 million.
Nashville is a football city. I'm sure the people of Nashville would welcome an MLB team, but it would have to be an expansion team, not a team relocating. Also I don't think the people would not approve of any public funding for a stadium being that they just approved of a 2.2 billion dollar stadium for the Titans. The silver lining for the Titans new stadium in Nashville is that they will be able to host numerous Super Bowls over the years.
ATCGUY Nashville is also now a hotbed in the Southeast US for NHL Hockey too. With the hockey Predators making the Stanley Cup Finals not that long ago. And honestly when the Grizzlies moved from Vancouver IMO, it should have been to either Kansas City or Nashville. Not sure if Memphis should even have a NBA team since Western Tennessee and Northern Mississippi is more a College Football and College Basketball hotbed. Finally back to a new Nashville MLB team. Best for them to get an expansion team and build from the ground up similar to the Predators. Most in the Nashville area want an expansion team and not a relocation one such as possibly the Rays.
Do the math… if the MLB expansion fee is $2 billion, and ownership group and city would need at least $4 billion to start a new expansion team. That’s a ridiculous amount of money.
MLB wants the few big city (spender) teams to be the Globe Trotters and the rest of the league to be the Washington Generals. F* Manfred and double so for Fisher
Good review and I agree wrto NFL priority. Also, Nashville (like Las Vegas and Florida in general) offers A LOT of enjoyments and activities besides sitting in one's seat for 4 hours.. It's a great place to go out and walk around and enjoy a street party . . . and that's competition for a sports entertainment business.
Nashville resident here. I’ll say there’s not much of an appetite to fund a new stadium by the public or the council. Williamson county could be a possibility I think.
Manfred has misplayed the franchise situation. His decision to wait on Oakland and Tampa Bay to be resolved delayed expansion and the associated fees (likely worth at least $100 million for each of the 30 existing franchise) but, also, gave up relocation fee revenue (to be split between 29 teams) which he waived for John Fisher/Athletics and now sets a new precedent. Five years ago Manfred could have expanded to Nashville and Las Vegas. Now it sounds like the timing is no longer right for Nashville and LV may or may not get a relocated team with an incompetent owner. The White Sox and D-Backs situations are lurking in the background. In the 90's baseball expanded because it wanted to be in Denver, Florida and Phoenix. I don't recall hearing anything from the commissioner's office over the last decade saying they wanted to be in Sacramento and/or Salt Lake City. However, they may have little choice. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for growing the game.
The views of Freddie O'Connell do not represent the views of the Nashville metro area or for that matter the state of Tennessee. It should be noted O'Connell is about to be hampered by his public transit initiatives.
I'll file this under no-s**t, Sherlock. Nashville doesn't have a stadium, a stadium being built, the financing necessary to build a stadium after financing the Titans' stadium, etc., and to top it all, Tennessee and Nashville are Braves' Country, and as a result, any franchise would need their sign-off for cutting into their media market. Salt Lake, Montreal, New Orleans, Charlotte, and Oklahoma City are all better locations for a new or relocated franchise.
Very interesting. The MLB has a major problem. NFL teams have tons of options if they want to relocate in the form of college football stadiums as temporary locations. Baseball only has minor league parks that already have tenants and don’t hold that many spectators.
Personally I think it’s wild that the Carolinas do not have an MLB team. I feel like Carolina would be a more natural fit for a Rays relocation should it happen
Baseball has 81 dates (or, more generally, 27 homestands) with a generally daily schedule. The larger markets have normally benefited more from these factors. In the RSN era, a Carolina team might have made up for their smaller markets by a decent sized TV deal. But we’re exiting the RSN era. You need one market that’s larger instead of 2-3 that aren’t quite there.
Steve ballmer should be what all owners should be like. Fund their own stadium or arenas. They can't take their billions of dollars to the grave. Greed.
It was really telling that Japan's Seibu Lions could have a historically awful season on par with what the White Sox are going through... and still out-attend 10 MLB teams.
@@daltontf They're a Pacific League club, so not really. While the CL is packed closer together, the Pacific League is spread out all over the country. There's only 1 team that's within a reasonable distance, and that's the Chiba Lotte Marines. It's still about 2 hours by commuter train between the stadiums (and you'd need to change trains like 3 times)
West Tennessee is Cardinals country. East Tennessee is Braves Country. People in Nashville aren't going to embrace the Rays. Just like everyone in Tampa still roots for the Yankees.
So, if a another team from another region in the USA is popular in the area, just because the area doesn't have a team of its own even though its population is greater than other cities with MLB team, then the area should never be able to have a team of its own?
How can you say that "everyone in Tampa still roots for the Yankees?" I know that the Yankees have many fans in all regions of North America, but I am sure that other MLB teams have fans of their own, and I would presume that the number of baseball fans who would prefer that the Yankees would lose would outnumber the number of people who would prefer that the Yankees win.
Maybe, just maybe, if Nashville (Dave Stewart) doesn’t go through, Stew can find a MINORITY group to try and buy the A’s if Fisher can’t get anything done anywhere. Keep them HOME!
Nashville may have just enough population for a baseball team but its television market is too small. The Cardinals, Braves and Reds have the television market tied up.
I've always thought Nashville was a bit iffy because of the fact that they just committed a whole bunch of money to building the new Titans stadium. As of right now, here's what I see happening. The guy that owns the Carolina Hurricanes (his name escapes me) is always willing to make big investments. He did own an entire spring football league at one point a few years back. I can see him swinging something to get Raleigh a team. The Portland Diamond group seems to be closing in on new land. I can see that panning out. So, expansion: Portland and Raleigh. I don't think the Rays ever figure it out in the Tampa area, sadly. But in light of hearing this from the mayor, and knowing most billionaires aren't going to pay for their own stadiums (at least not on their own), I don't see relocation happening either. Tampa takes the wild card route and moves to Utah. Portland goes to the AL (build that Seattle rivalry), Raleigh to the NL (regional rivalry with Atlanta), then you have Utah (Tampa) switching to the NL to create a rivalry with Colorado (and honestly, Arizona considering the Coyotes situation) and to even out the leagues, flip Miami to the AL or return Milwaukee to the AL. This is just my wild speculation at the moment considering we're so far away from really anything coming out of it.
Arizona has stadium issues and lease runs out in 2027. If Portland and Carolina gets expansion teams and Tampa moves to SLC this does not leave any options for the Dbacks to move-Montreal? San Antonio?
Acting like you can just fabricate rivalries based off geographical location is pointless. The Jazz and Nuggets, Dolphins and Bucs, Kings and Warriors have zero rivalry. The Blazers, Sonics and Grizzlies never had a rivalry in the 90s. Trying to whoo a team based off another city is a surefire way to let others know you are not a major league city.
Unless the stadium was going to be PRIVATELY funded, it would unlikely to happen. The State paid for the MLS stadium and the highly expensive new Nissan Stadium.
Whether you are Democrat, Republican, Independent, or whatever, we’re all in agreement that our tax dollars should not go to stadiums. I would rather that money spent on baseball fields and parks for everyone to enjoy
Oh, so where’s your 30,000-seat 200-suite ballpark? Not only are you not ready, I suspect the arena renovation + the coming inflation will squeeze Utah.
@@PCSPounderSLC is ready to go for the 2029 or 2030 season. The money is there and all they're waiting for is MLB approval for a team. In two years the stadium would be completed and the Delta Center renovation would not affect it at all
I don't want to see a team in Montreal. It is not that I don't like Montreal, it is a great city to visit, but it is absurd to place a team in a French-speaking foreign city in a country with a declining economy where its per-capita income and GDP are less than most states in the USA. The Montreal of today is not the same as the Montreal of 56 years ago when the Expos were established.
No one wants MLB, its all about getting a MLS Team, thats the future of interest in ages under 35, Thats why a few years ago Nashville got a MLS team with a new soccer stadium, they didnt pursue Baseball,
Suddenly, only Salt Lake City seems ready to expand or relocate to. It almost seems possible that not only will the NBA go to 32 teams, but even MLS. The extreme disparities in baseball make it appear now like a house of cards about to collapse in on itself. Of course, things may change…
Maybe, just maybe, if Nashville (Dave Stewart) doesn’t go through, Stew can find a MINORITY group to try and buy the A’s if Fisher can’t get anything done anywhere. Keep them HOME!
*Some other videos you might like:*
Report: A's spending more to avoid grievance
📺 th-cam.com/video/fplywUKfMiw/w-d-xo.html
Rays REVEAL 2025 Stadium details, while MLB visits Florida politicians
📺 th-cam.com/video/Ohnl4bIQlVM/w-d-xo.html
An AMAZING SF Giants City Connect concept for 2025
📺 th-cam.com/video/Y3XvF6UeTxk/w-d-xo.html
Roof & HVAC issues COMPLICATE Arizona Diamondbacks future
📺 th-cam.com/video/PljUNV76kSw/w-d-xo.html
76ers New Arena Vote OPPOSED by Location & Benefits
📺 th-cam.com/video/eL2zvhEFOL8/w-d-xo.html
Did Juan Soto sign an IMPOSSIBLE contract with Mets?
📺 th-cam.com/video/hjyU4BmgtaU/w-d-xo.html
San Antonio Spurs & Alamodome: "Project Marvel" is TOO BIG?
📺 th-cam.com/video/b0Ieov-lNtg/w-d-xo.html
Willy Adames signs HISTORIC SF Giants contract
📺 th-cam.com/video/aW1TEdNzUt4/w-d-xo.html
Vegas Sphere has ideas to REVERSE financial struggles
📺 th-cam.com/video/xd_4KaOZgbM/w-d-xo.html
Rays Uncertainty: FIVE POSSIBLE outcomes
📺 th-cam.com/video/A1T8oTsRji4/w-d-xo.html
Dodger Stadium QUIETLY digging $100M Clubhouse Upgrades
📺 th-cam.com/video/POiE0-wnVQY/w-d-xo.html
Does YES vote equal "NO DEAL" for Rays Ballpark Project?
📺 th-cam.com/video/brLVHKdmQ88/w-d-xo.html
St. Petersburg APPROVES funding for Rays Stadium [Highlights]
📺 th-cam.com/video/0s0gWCS6v1Q/w-d-xo.html
If MLB can pay a player $700M they can afford to purchase land and a stadium on their own.
Cities benefit from the tourism, payroll, payroll tax and economic expansion of sports teams. The days of privately funded stadiums are over.
@ltrev1979 then why did two teams in privately-funded stadia just meet in the WS? Or the Giants winning three WS in 5 years after winning zero the previous 55?
The As and Rays couldn’t afford $700 million. MLB needs revenue sharing….
MLB didn't pay a player $700M. That was one owner
@paulo123- In a previous video, Mr. Brazil mentioned low-revenue teams get an average of $70 million per team per year. How's that not enough?
Looks to me like Salt Lake City is putting distance between itself and the other expansion/team move destination contenders.
They may not even be a good candidate themselves.
@@BlackSaiyan24who would be better?
@@archstanton6102 Utah would be a candidate for a western team to relocate (Athletics) or an expansion team. For a team like the Rays, staying on the east coast is quite important given the divisions and whatnot, and I think Orlando or Raleigh-Durham is more suitable.
@@BlackSaiyan24 If teams move to a different geographic region, then just realign the divisions. They are not fixed permanently. Actually, some of teams should move to a different division right now. For example, why are the Pirates not in the NL East, to maintain an intrastate rivalry with the Phillies? Atlanta is further west of Pittsburgh by several degrees of longitude, so the Braves should be in the NL Central.
In my lifetime, two teams not only switched divisions, but leagues: Brewers from AL to NL, and Astros from NL to AL.
@@archstanton6102 I agree. Who can move quicker than SLC right now?
I think the secret to mid-market cities successfully hosting major league sports teams is not taking on too many. Nashville understands.
@@stevehofer3482 They have three and a Milb team. Adding another would just break the system
Predators draw well year in, year out. Titans don't when they're losing , like now.
@@pocklecod I am in Indianapolis, a city in the same class as Nashville and Kansas City, and I don't think there is much interest in Major League baseball here. This isn't traditionally a "baseball city". Football and basketball are both more popular, and more youths play soccer than baseball. We have a AAA team that is successful and well-liked. Personally, I don't "follow" baseball, but I do enjoy occasionally attending a AAA Indianapolis Indians game, just to relax and be outside on a warm summer night. I don't care much who wins or loses. I don't see me feeling the same way if I was spending 5x as much for a Major League game.
@@stevehofer3482 I don't understand why Indianapolis doesn't seek to lure the White Sox out of Chicago. That wouldn't be moving too far, and the White Sox would have the entire state of Indiana to themselves, rather than sharing the Chicago area with the Cubs. Especially if the White Sox could be purchased by a new owner, and I expect that there must be a few extremely wealthy people in Indiana with the financial means to purchase an MLB team, then a move to Indiana could revitalize a franchise that just set a record for most losses in a single season (since 1901).
AAA is minor league baseball. It is good to have such a team, especially if your city is not very large, but if your city is larger than several cities with MLB teams and growing at a healthy rate, then you should aspire to have an MLB team. Just as in life, if you have good skills and education, then you aspire to reach the top of your profession, not settle for a lower rung, especially when there are seemingly lesser people who have attained great heights.
@stevehofer3482 Yeah that's a big factor. Entertainment money is not infinite, most people cannot afford to attend more than a few pro sports events per year. What can happen is that people flock to whatever team is doing well and any team that goes on a 10-20 year run of not being great will struggle to create revenue and could eventually move again anyway. I grew up in a four sport city and only ever went to games for two of the teams (baseball and hockey). That's fine if there are 5 million people in an area some of whom will certainly prefer the other sports but the pie is just so much smaller in a market if 2 mil.
That's code word for I'm not giving MLB team 600 million dollars like the other cities are doing
This mayor is looking out for the voters. Need more like him. Stop giving money to the billionaire Bros. of MLB - build it themselves or F* off
Wow, complete 180 from Nashville. Outside looking in, it looks like the Titans made out like bandits getting 1.2 billion in public finance.
All roads lead to Salt Lake Brodie!! If Nashville won’t be ready when expansion happens, give it to SLC and Montreal.
Always time for Brodie. Heard rumors that Nashville wanted the Cardinals. Thanks for this.
I have lived in the Nashville area all my life. I agree with the mayor. "Yes, it would be great, but we don't have the taxpayers money to finance 2 stadium projects". MLB needs the Rays and A's situation straightened out first. I hope to still be alive when the MLB Nashville Sounds happens.
Can you put it where the Titans currently play?
Owners need to pay their own stadiums. Greed and taking money to their grave is so dumb.
What about Murfreesboro?
@@franciscomiranda1471 - Just another reason the people are fighting back against the 1%!
OH! “… the first credible ownership group that materializes…”
All of our focus about Nashville has lacked the one key requirement… an ownership willing to pay for stuff.
Brodie might have said that Nashville is keeping the door open, but that statement- and the comment about an owner willing to foot the bill- closes that door.
For cities like Nashville Triple A is the sweet spot: good quality baseball at a cost that you can afford to take your family.
Triple A baseball is superior to MLB in terms of quality of play. I miss my Phoenix Firebirds when they were displaced by the Dbacks
What a concept! Have things that families can afford to attend!! Are you seriously telling me normal families should get the same consideration as elites😉? I’m in Vancouver. We have Single A minor league baseball. It’s the absolute best place to go for families. Affordable, fun, and entertaining as these players are trying to climb the ladder. So they work hard.
@@jeandelisi9441 How can you say that "Triple A baseball is superior to MLB in terms of quality of play," when the AAA players are those players who are not good enough to play in the major leagues?
I was a Nashville resident for 13 years(2009-2022). I left because it was obvious that Nashville would continue to give large tax breaks to corporations and allow housing developers to bulldoze our neighborhoods unrecognizable and I would never be able to own a home there. I know a lot of residents feel the same way. And after Geodis Park and the new Titans stadium, I think the locals have soured on not only publicly funding another stadium, but continuing to bulldoze the city’s history for entertainment afforded and championed by the very few.
Montrael is the largest city without a MLB team....they do not want to pay the expansion fee...they are ready for a team to relocate there. Everything is in place including the beloved name: Expos.
There is no other city east of the Mississippi that can handle an expansion team other than Montrael.
Montreal is in Canada, not the USA. It appear to me that so many people are not realizing that. I've been to Canada and I have to cross a border and get questioned by their border patrol when I do so. Usually, except in rural areas, there are long waits to cross the border. Usually a passport is required to cross the border, and the majority of people in the USA do not have a passport. Also, many people are unable to cross the border, due to having a criminal record and other factors.
They are not ready for a team to relocate there. Renovations to Olympic Stadium won’t be completed until 2028, and that’s assuming the renovations are baseball friendly.
Nashville "not ready for baseball" means "We don't want your relocation hand-me-downs." They want their own homegrown team. They know MLB is years away. When MLB is ready for expansion, Nashville will be there and will be a lock to do whatever they need to do. The location, demographics, and economics are just too good. They may be so good in fact, that they may not need the city's help.
There aren’t too many options for all these teams threatening relocation
If all teams move to Las Vegas (or threaten to) that'll get those fans minds right and willing to hand over lumps of money to the billionaire bros. of MLB
Snooze, you lose. Cross Nashville off the list.
Spoken like the
9th letter
4th letter
9th letter
15th letter
20th letter
1%'er you are!
One of the venues that the mayor was hinting at is the existing minor league ballpark for the AAA Nashville Sounds. Compared to the A's and Rays' temporary homes it's small. Just over 8,000 fixed seats and 10,000 including "berm seating." So, that may not work for a home while a new stadium is constructed. It;s also less than ten years old. Construction cost was around $91 million.
91 million for a minor league stadium. Did the taxpayers pay for it?
Nashville is a football city. I'm sure the people of Nashville would welcome an MLB team, but it would have to be an expansion team, not a team relocating. Also I don't think the people would not approve of any public funding for a stadium being that they just approved of a 2.2 billion dollar stadium for the Titans. The silver lining for the Titans new stadium in Nashville is that they will be able to host numerous Super Bowls over the years.
Along with Final Fours, SEC Championships.
Think they also had a new MLS stadium built there
@glengoad7846 yes that too. Maybe some kick ass Taylor Swift shows as well 👍
ATCGUY Nashville is also now a hotbed in the Southeast US for NHL Hockey too. With the hockey Predators making the Stanley Cup Finals not that long ago. And honestly when the Grizzlies moved from Vancouver IMO, it should have been to either Kansas City or Nashville. Not sure if Memphis should even have a NBA team since Western Tennessee and Northern Mississippi is more a College Football and College Basketball hotbed.
Finally back to a new Nashville MLB team. Best for them to get an expansion team and build from the ground up similar to the Predators. Most in the Nashville area want an expansion team and not a relocation one such as possibly the Rays.
"Nashville is a football city." But every city in the US is a "football city," given the popularity of the NFL.
Do the math… if the MLB expansion fee is $2 billion, and ownership group and city would need at least $4 billion to start a new expansion team. That’s a ridiculous amount of money.
Outside of a handful of teams, MLB isn't nearly as strong, as some think it is.
MLB wants the few big city (spender) teams to be the Globe Trotters and the rest of the league to be the Washington Generals. F* Manfred and double so for Fisher
If their MLB scoreboard isn't in the shape of a guitar, they already failed.
If not Nashville, why not Charlotte, NC? It’s another large up and coming city. Just a thought.
Probably because the taxpayers are going to build a stadium for the Panthers instead soon.
I'm from Nashville and we have the wrong mayor at the wrong time. Continue Blue Doom in Nashville in a Red State.
Good review and I agree wrto NFL priority.
Also, Nashville (like Las Vegas and Florida in general) offers A LOT of enjoyments and activities besides sitting in one's seat for 4 hours.. It's a great place to go out and walk around and enjoy a street party . . . and that's competition for a sports entertainment business.
Nashville resident here. I’ll say there’s not much of an appetite to fund a new stadium by the public or the council. Williamson county could be a possibility I think.
They’re spending 2+ billion of public money on a new Titans stadium. I imagine the well of public funds for a new ballpark is dry for awhile.
Bridgestone Arena is getting old, I figure there will be some money put toward it soon.
Manfred has misplayed the franchise situation. His decision to wait on Oakland and Tampa Bay to be resolved delayed expansion and the associated fees (likely worth at least $100 million for each of the 30 existing franchise) but, also, gave up relocation fee revenue (to be split between 29 teams) which he waived for John Fisher/Athletics and now sets a new precedent. Five years ago Manfred could have expanded to Nashville and Las Vegas. Now it sounds like the timing is no longer right for Nashville and LV may or may not get a relocated team with an incompetent owner. The White Sox and D-Backs situations are lurking in the background.
In the 90's baseball expanded because it wanted to be in Denver, Florida and Phoenix. I don't recall hearing anything from the commissioner's office over the last decade saying they wanted to be in Sacramento and/or Salt Lake City. However, they may have little choice. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for growing the game.
I feel Nashville is more of a hockey town. They have one of the best fan bases ever.
The views of Freddie O'Connell do not represent the views of the Nashville metro area or for that matter the state of Tennessee. It should be noted O'Connell is about to be hampered by his public transit initiatives.
@@djowers1349 I wouldn’t say that. The transit plan on the last ballot passed
I'll file this under no-s**t, Sherlock. Nashville doesn't have a stadium, a stadium being built, the financing necessary to build a stadium after financing the Titans' stadium, etc., and to top it all, Tennessee and Nashville are Braves' Country, and as a result, any franchise would need their sign-off for cutting into their media market. Salt Lake, Montreal, New Orleans, Charlotte, and Oklahoma City are all better locations for a new or relocated franchise.
Very interesting. The MLB has a major problem. NFL teams have tons of options if they want to relocate in the form of college football stadiums as temporary locations. Baseball only has minor league parks that already have tenants and don’t hold that many spectators.
Well the things the mayor said i agree the stadium and building a new stadium for MLB team its hard to find land in main downtown area
Personally I think it’s wild that the Carolinas do not have an MLB team. I feel like Carolina would be a more natural fit for a Rays relocation should it happen
Raleigh over Charlotte. Don't want to contend with the Panthers for public money for stadium costs.
@@daltontf I think a Raleigh team would get instant support. Also it's far enough north that you could consider an outdoor stadium
If the Carolinas got an MLB team, Nashville won't. Too close
Baseball has 81 dates (or, more generally, 27 homestands) with a generally daily schedule. The larger markets have normally benefited more from these factors.
In the RSN era, a Carolina team might have made up for their smaller markets by a decent sized TV deal. But we’re exiting the RSN era.
You need one market that’s larger instead of 2-3 that aren’t quite there.
@@PCSPounder The Triangle metro is larger than Milwaukee and Cleveland
Steve ballmer should be what all owners should be like. Fund their own stadium or arenas. They can't take their billions of dollars to the grave. Greed.
The 1%'ers are in for a
23rd letter
1st letter
18th letter
with the poor!
Too bad Ballmer was stupid to build Intuit in INGLEWOOD instead of Anaheim!
baseball already has too many teams with empty stadiums.
It was really telling that Japan's Seibu Lions could have a historically awful season on par with what the White Sox are going through... and still out-attend 10 MLB teams.
@@TheBrainSpecialist Did they draw a lot of fans of the visiting teams? Japan's geography would make that easier.
@@daltontf They're a Pacific League club, so not really.
While the CL is packed closer together, the Pacific League is spread out all over the country. There's only 1 team that's within a reasonable distance, and that's the Chiba Lotte Marines. It's still about 2 hours by commuter train between the stadiums (and you'd need to change trains like 3 times)
West Tennessee is Cardinals country. East Tennessee is Braves Country. People in Nashville aren't going to embrace the Rays. Just like everyone in Tampa still roots for the Yankees.
So, if a another team from another region in the USA is popular in the area, just because the area doesn't have a team of its own even though its population is greater than other cities with MLB team, then the area should never be able to have a team of its own?
How can you say that "everyone in Tampa still roots for the Yankees?" I know that the Yankees have many fans in all regions of North America, but I am sure that other MLB teams have fans of their own, and I would presume that the number of baseball fans who would prefer that the Yankees would lose would outnumber the number of people who would prefer that the Yankees win.
Nashville could be in either the AL Central or AL East, it's geographically neutral between an eastern, central, or southern oriented division.
I think the two cities MLB want are Nashville and Montreal with Utah pushing hard for a new team.
Love the content, great work and thank you for being consistent with the videos. I immediately click on them when I see them pop up
Maybe, just maybe, if Nashville (Dave Stewart) doesn’t go through, Stew can find a MINORITY group to try and buy the A’s if Fisher can’t get anything done anywhere. Keep them HOME!
I think Raleigh will get a team before Nashville does.
lol the mayor said that eh? 😂😂😂
if I had a billion dollars I would give it to the white sox to build their new stadium
No you wouldn’t 😂
The Tampa Bay Rays are not moving to Nashville and is staying in Tampa Bay.
Should have planned ahead - built a nextgen multipurpose stadium like Minneapolis.
MLB is not going to leave the entire central Florida mega-region without a team , that would be insane
Mlb wants a free lunch, and it ain't available in Nashville.... slc though
Rays are destined for Orlando.
Another team that would go nowhere in this baseball circus 😂
Do the Titans need a domed stadium?..At this rate all the new stadiums will be domes
@@impassable the plan is to get events like the Super Bowl, final 4, ect.
Nashville may have just enough population for a baseball team but its television market is too small.
The Cardinals, Braves and Reds have the television market tied up.
So, if other teams telecast their games in another region far away that doesn't have a team, then that region should never gain a team?
Portland is ready! Could be the MLB most accessible and Waterfront park
Brodi in your honest opinion does this open the door for Charlotte NC?
This is kind of a shock to me
Nashville isn't large enough for MLB
Montreal, Orlando, and Southern Alameda County would be better options for a team that is relocating
The ingredient he's talking about is money
I see contraction as more likely than expansion for the MLB.
relocation
I'm sure the Atlanta Braves will have a say in this.
I've always thought Nashville was a bit iffy because of the fact that they just committed a whole bunch of money to building the new Titans stadium. As of right now, here's what I see happening. The guy that owns the Carolina Hurricanes (his name escapes me) is always willing to make big investments. He did own an entire spring football league at one point a few years back. I can see him swinging something to get Raleigh a team. The Portland Diamond group seems to be closing in on new land. I can see that panning out. So, expansion: Portland and Raleigh. I don't think the Rays ever figure it out in the Tampa area, sadly. But in light of hearing this from the mayor, and knowing most billionaires aren't going to pay for their own stadiums (at least not on their own), I don't see relocation happening either. Tampa takes the wild card route and moves to Utah. Portland goes to the AL (build that Seattle rivalry), Raleigh to the NL (regional rivalry with Atlanta), then you have Utah (Tampa) switching to the NL to create a rivalry with Colorado (and honestly, Arizona considering the Coyotes situation) and to even out the leagues, flip Miami to the AL or return Milwaukee to the AL. This is just my wild speculation at the moment considering we're so far away from really anything coming out of it.
Arizona has stadium issues and lease runs out in 2027. If Portland and Carolina gets expansion teams and Tampa moves to SLC this does not leave any options for the Dbacks to move-Montreal? San Antonio?
Acting like you can just fabricate rivalries based off geographical location is pointless. The Jazz and Nuggets, Dolphins and Bucs, Kings and Warriors have zero rivalry. The Blazers, Sonics and Grizzlies never had a rivalry in the 90s. Trying to whoo a team based off another city is a surefire way to let others know you are not a major league city.
Salt Lake City!! ⚾️
Unless the stadium was going to be PRIVATELY funded, it would unlikely to happen. The State paid for the MLS stadium and the highly expensive new Nissan Stadium.
If Nashville is out, add Raleigh.
Maybe in Murfreesboro since it is a little farther than Nashville but big enoygh people to go to the games
Whether you are Democrat, Republican, Independent, or whatever, we’re all in agreement that our tax dollars should not go to stadiums. I would rather that money spent on baseball fields and parks for everyone to enjoy
Agreed, but that’s not the way these things work
Charlotte may take their place as the east coast expansion team
MONTREAL!!! MONTREAL!!! MONTREAL!!!
Sac is getting a permanent team 💯
It'll probably be SLC(for sure) and either raleigh or portland. It should be austin, raleigh or portland tho.
Salt Lake City ready to go !!!
Oh, so where’s your 30,000-seat 200-suite ballpark?
Not only are you not ready, I suspect the arena renovation + the coming inflation will squeeze Utah.
@@PCSPounderSLC is ready to go for the 2029 or 2030 season. The money is there and all they're waiting for is MLB approval for a team. In two years the stadium would be completed and the Delta Center renovation would not affect it at all
step on up Montreal!
I don't want to see a team in Montreal. It is not that I don't like Montreal, it is a great city to visit, but it is absurd to place a team in a French-speaking foreign city in a country with a declining economy where its per-capita income and GDP are less than most states in the USA. The Montreal of today is not the same as the Montreal of 56 years ago when the Expos were established.
@ good points. I read that the province of spending 800 million to renovate old Olympic Stadium, which seems like a big-time waste of money.
When the new football stadium is done in Nashville, the old facility can quickly be retro-fitted for baseball as a short term solution.
As a nashville resident (and rays fan which Im HEAVILY against them relocating), Nashville just doesnt have the money or a good spot for the stadium.
No one wants MLB, its all about getting a MLS Team, thats the future of interest in ages under 35, Thats why a few years ago Nashville got a MLS team with a new soccer stadium, they didnt pursue Baseball,
No one like soccer.
Give it to Portland and Salt Lake City for the first round and Nashville and Montreal for the second round. Let’s go Portland!
Portland 👎🏻
Well, they’re missing the “it” factor. Nashville is generic.
How? Please explain.
Suddenly, only Salt Lake City seems ready to expand or relocate to. It almost seems possible that not only will the NBA go to 32 teams, but even MLS. The extreme disparities in baseball make it appear now like a house of cards about to collapse in on itself.
Of course, things may change…
I don't think it's big enough to host that many team teams anyway
Any word on Portland, Oregon?
Have you been to Portland recently? It is not a region worthy of an MLB team, given that there are better options.
@@HighpointerGeocacher spot on 👍
Portland and SLC are two likely canidates. Nashville isn't going to pony up money for a third new stadium.
Portland will never get an MLB franchise
State of Tennessee probably float a bond or 2
Maybe, just maybe, if Nashville (Dave Stewart) doesn’t go through, Stew can find a MINORITY group to try and buy the A’s if Fisher can’t get anything done anywhere. Keep them HOME!