As a 38 year old from PA who has been listening to southern rap as far back as I can remember, and only learned about this beat very recently, this is one of the most fascinating stories I’ve heard. Forget just New Orleans, y’all are game-wide rap royalty. Much respect.
NEW AWLINS BOUT IT TO THE FORE FRONT.WHEN SHOWBOYS DROPPED THE RECORD IN “86”,THINK ABOUT WHO WAS CONTROLLING HIP HOP (NYC).THE RECORD WASNT A HIT TILL LIKE “90” WHEN T.T TUCKER AND D.J IRV SAMPLED THE RECORD FOR WHERE DEY AT,WHICH WAS THE BIRTH OF BOUNCE DOWN YERE AND THE REST IS HIS/HER STORY.GO ON TH-cam & PULL UP EVERLASTING HITMAN,DADDY-YO,MS.TEE,PIMP DADDY,UNLV,D.J JIMI,D.J JUBILEE,MAGNOLIA SLIM,JUVENILE (BOUNCE FOR THE JUVENILE)THATS JUST SOME OF E.M.OH CAN’T FORGET B.G DISSED MYSTIKAL WITH A TRIGGA MAN BEAT ALSO.CHEEKY BLACK,LIL ELT (GIT THE GAT) LIL SLIM TOO BRO
Lil Wayne in his Montreal TV interview say Queens New York is New Orleans. Real shit I agree I am from Houston & New York is the South. Now the South has pull over NY but NY started it all.
On the cool these dudes are lowkey New Orleans celebrity and hood royalty Shout out to the Showboys Triggerman IS the heart of hip hop New Orleans!! Plus Cameron Paul "Brown Beat" is the heartbeat of the NOLA streets.... Real talk other people sampled that jawn after New Orleans put it all the way on the map...but aint do it like us.
I remember when Drag Rap was released in the early or mid nineteen eighties. The song was and is a Hip Hop gem. Listen to the lyrics carefully, and you'll hear a strong story about organized gangsters and references to FBI agent Elliot Ness. It's amazing how the song is making more noise now than it did when it originally dropped.
this is beautiful. i love you guys so much. i've been in love with new orleans culture and it's contribution to hip hop since i was a child and you guys play a huge roll in that. blessings to you brothas
C2k Ent. The first thing any producer would have to do b4 a lawsuit is present their composition without any samples of any other published record. Unless he can do that he cannot sue.
@@bergytc24 right on...but looks like you said they are the orginators of bounce....they never even knew about bounce until we turned that shit into bounce....see what Im saying?
@@videosurfah Yeah but I meant the groove so they essentially made the beat that gave life to the New Orleans genre! I know who T Tucker is and everything!
Mind blowing how Oriv says this beat became some what sort of the foundation of NO Bounce Music & Lil Wayne in his Montreal TV interview says Drag Rap is the foundation of NO Bounce. He says Queens NY is NO
Brothers, that sample was used in 1991 with tt tucker & dj Irvine where dey at. Long before Manny fresh, big freeda or drake !!! Your song was awesome, but tucker & irv made the bounce concept.
Actually, the Artists that made it explode in New orleans would have been DJ Jimi & T. Tucker, both releasing their own versions of the song "Where they at", using this record as the backbone of each. This was like in 1990..or 91'. Waaaaay before that Mannie Fresh story in 95'. Both versions of the song 'Where they at', are considered the foundational roots of New Orleans Bounce music....along with Cameron Paul's 'Brown Beats'.
mannnie was using that beat long before 95. they were all using it around the same time. listen to early cash money records from 92/93. and mannie was already a bounce pioneer even before that.
TT Tucker made that beat and that saying where dey at popular in N.O. before anybody on a nightclub recording.1st on the radio.everything else came soon after,but still after.If yo listen to Tucker now it might sound crazy but you had to be around.It was playing everywhere that had speakers
When I first heard this it was on a Mr Majic Compilation Album. To this day I still bumo this song. It has been used in so many songs over the years it's incredible. This was a timeless beat and the rap over the beat was incredible as well. CLASSIC!!!
I was asking what year the original group came out where they were from and what happen to them so this was a real blessing thankz ShowBoys to clear all the answers.
Drag rap was my moma favourite song when she was pregnant with me in 1988 people still call me triggaman i got n alot of trouble jus cuz of da name at school "triggaman did it" i didn't hear da song until 2001
Sir with all do respect, TT Tucker and DJ Jimmie was BEFORE Mannie and Big Freedia. Thanks for allowing us to TWERK with dat Triggerman Beat in the late 80's😁
They really didn’t get the props they deserved everybody use their music hip hop pioneers never seen them on Rap City 🌃 or Yo MTV Raps much respect which they had a video back in 86”.
I remember hearing this in 86 I was living in the 6th ward, shot out to the Show Boys for creating this tracking definitely built the rap scene in the City, I'm bout to be 42 and it's still used to this day, check out We Outside by Tru M Eleven
Mannie Fresh just took it and put some straight magical touches on it and brought us some fire ass straight live ass bangers using This Triggaman Drag Rap beat. When Mannie Fresh placed his very talented touches to it UNLV's - Drag Em From The River was birthed and changed the game up. Mystikal even did an interview on TH-cam with Heit The Great saying how fire that track was and still is and called it a timeless classic track. Mannie Fresh even sampled Mystikal and used Mystikal in the background of the entire track. He used Mystikal's voice on a track that's dissing Mystikal now that's truly dope and unheard of. The best was so dope they used it once again on Juvenile's hit single. (Set It Off) with the Mystikal sample and all. That's just a dope ass track and beat. UNLV - Drag Em From The River & Juvenile - Set It Off
How I pray to God they post so much Orv being the OG he is & Triggs being the G & DJ he has always been. How I pray there would be so much more about them. They are truly hidden 💎'$$ Hollis Queens always been nothing but love & friendly. I met Triggs sister Lay here in the H with the Blacked out Range true story. She had all the pictures & stories about Queens Holis to be exact.
I love this record. One question that I have to ask is you had mentioned that you lhad made this record in 1984. You had gotten your story telling from and beat box sound from Dougie Fresh and Ricky D song "The Show". The Show didn't come out until middle of 1985. How did you write this a year earlier
Did they put the pack out yet? I am a Christian Hip-Hop Artist out of New Orleans and my music has some influences from this record which we labeled as New Orleans Bounce. With that being said, I use this record in some of the music that I produce and I would love to reach out to them and have their permission to use it the proper way. If not, do you have a contact on them so that I could reach out to them and ask them for their permission.
DJ Jimi used that sample in a song called where they at long before Mannie Fresh did back in 1992. Mannie Fresh was just mimicking what DJ Jimi was doing.
It's like a 1 or 2 bar loop. And what many southern producers/DJs don't tell you is that they all had to sample from New York rap beats because they didn't have a sound of their own. LMAO!!!
Don't make this into some East Coast vs Down South bullshit dude. Those same producers/ dee jays you're braggin about from New York didn't tell you they sampled a lot of southern artists' soul and blues records to make those 1 or 2 bar loops and sequenced kicks, snares and vocal riffs too, using either an sp12, fairlight or cheap, short seconds sampling rack-mount trigger units.
@@drfangaz-pronouncedlikefan4019 U made a good point. I actually happen to like 3 6 Mafia, Cash Money, No Limit and UGK and the southern 60s/70s soul blues. But guess what. Mantronix showed early hiphop southern producers how to rock the TR-808 & TR-909. Slow your roll.
@@itsrelativ3967 I'd say only for a few, but it was Afrika Bambaataa & Arthur Baker plus The Egyptian Lover from Southern California for the majority. Kurt inspired southern producers to emulate how he used the sp12 turbo for sampling James Brown drum breaks, it's functions like multi-pitching Tr 808 snares and one shot multi leveling. Another thing I'd like to point out. How could anyone outside of NY reproduce the same type of music if all of the deejays kept everything a secret ( 45's and LP were covered on purpose )? Plus the Hip-hop law was "no biting" allowed. So, if anyone did the same thing you got called out for breaking the law in the culture. Technically, anyone after DJ Hollywood or DJ Kool Herc was biting if they collected the same songs to play at the rec or at the block parties. If any producers used the same drum breaks or scratched the same vocals of instrument riffs, technically that's biting. So why would anyone from NY act funny and diss if no one's production or lingo outside of their city sound like theirs? It's a contradiction. No need to slow up. Don't get uppity.
@@drfangaz-pronouncedlikefan4019 The south all had to sound like acts from NYC to get radio play. 2 Live Crew sounded like Run DMC & Rob Base DJ EZ Rock. Geto Boys sounded like Eric & Rakim with some Kool G Rap. New Orleans bounce producers all sounded like Mantronik with a small dose of SoulSonic Force. Kris Kros had to be like EPMD with a little bit of Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre. Other than that, 3 6 Mafia stood out the most. I mean who would of ever thought of pitching samples down and using a 70 to 75 bpm with hypnotic chants, rolled hi-hats, and distorted 808 bass. Yea I may be contradicting myself since 36 Mafia has influenced even what NYC is on today. The point is early on the south had to sound like acts from NYC to get heard. You made your point. I made mines.
U cant sample without permission,Period,and Most of the time u have heard that sound in a beat,it was sampled from their beat...So its the SAME beat,just with pieces added to it...
I remember the showboys drag rap came out 1986 I was 14 93fm wzak Cleveland Ohio use to mix the hell out of this jam then triggerman 2000 love the beatbox mix with the beat drag rap
They should be billionaires because of their samples. It’s intriguing how one song can carry a movement
I’ve been saying this months!The Showboyz are the most sampled artist of all time!
@@sjcflawlessWinston’s Amen Brother is the most sampled song of all time
@@djchromatix4640for jungle music. showboys were sampled in so many old memphis and new orleans beats
Triggaman is a down south classic in every generation
As a 38 year old from PA who has been listening to southern rap as far back as I can remember, and only learned about this beat very recently, this is one of the most fascinating stories I’ve heard.
Forget just New Orleans, y’all are game-wide rap royalty. Much respect.
NEW AWLINS BOUT IT TO THE FORE FRONT.WHEN SHOWBOYS DROPPED THE RECORD IN “86”,THINK ABOUT WHO WAS CONTROLLING HIP HOP (NYC).THE RECORD WASNT A HIT TILL LIKE “90” WHEN T.T TUCKER AND D.J IRV SAMPLED THE RECORD FOR WHERE DEY AT,WHICH WAS THE BIRTH OF BOUNCE DOWN YERE AND THE REST IS HIS/HER STORY.GO ON TH-cam & PULL UP EVERLASTING HITMAN,DADDY-YO,MS.TEE,PIMP DADDY,UNLV,D.J JIMI,D.J JUBILEE,MAGNOLIA SLIM,JUVENILE (BOUNCE FOR THE JUVENILE)THATS JUST SOME OF E.M.OH CAN’T FORGET B.G DISSED MYSTIKAL WITH A TRIGGA MAN BEAT ALSO.CHEEKY BLACK,LIL ELT (GIT THE GAT) LIL SLIM TOO BRO
Back then Cleveland got rap jams quick and dances
Lil Wayne in his Montreal TV interview say Queens New York is New Orleans. Real shit I agree I am from Houston & New York is the South. Now the South has pull over NY but NY started it all.
One beat birthed Genre’s... bounce, crunk/buck, trap
💯💯💯
On the cool these dudes are lowkey New Orleans celebrity and hood royalty
Shout out to the Showboys
Triggerman IS the heart of hip hop New Orleans!! Plus Cameron Paul "Brown Beat" is the heartbeat of the NOLA streets....
Real talk other people sampled that jawn after New Orleans put it all the way on the map...but aint do it like us.
New Orleans legends should have a statue in our city of these two
Real talk. You have the right mentality!
New Orleans legends? They’re from Queens NY
True, but they are honorary New Orleans, New York never embraced them.
The dun, dun, dun, dun part is still a dragnet sample from the tv show Dragnet.
Not when you replay the musical cords.
Memphis and Cashville tennakeee always represented with gangsta walking juking hbcu know what I’m talking bout showboys beat drop it’s a party
Legends, I was blessed to be able to perform with them at the Platinum club
In Harvey.
I remember when Drag Rap was released in the early or mid nineteen eighties. The song was and is a Hip Hop gem. Listen to the lyrics carefully, and you'll hear a strong story about organized gangsters and references to FBI agent Elliot Ness. It's amazing how the song is making more noise now than it did when it originally dropped.
Tuku tuku tuku tuku tuku tuku tuku tuku tuku tuku tuku
Hats off The Showboys. I grew up on the Triggerman beat. That made bounce music
I approve of this post and I still have the Vinyl. Outstanding job and a big ups to the Showboys!!!!
Preach Family!!! SHOWBOYS 4 LIFE
Thank you guys for being real
This song started the whole south movement.
this is beautiful. i love you guys so much. i've been in love with new orleans culture and it's contribution to hip hop since i was a child and you guys play a huge roll in that. blessings to you brothas
Yall are the real kings from NY of hiphop beats and gangster tales since yall made this song in 1984.
Can’t thank them enough really cleared everything up God blessed interview!!!
Legends frfr,I remember when the 1st time I heard 'Triggaman' in the 80's and I thank you guys for giving us this song
Why hasn’t VICE did a story on this?!
Really nice hear this dudes about their history...
Hip hop legends thanks fellas for making this track 🙌🙌🙌
C2k Ent. The first thing any producer would have to do b4 a lawsuit is present their composition without any samples of any other published record. Unless he can do that he cannot sue.
Thks for this video 📹
Originators of Bounce music!! You two are legends
Originators of thr beat but not the bounce movement
@@videosurfah I know the history these guys are from Queens not the 504!
@@bergytc24 right on...but looks like you said they are the orginators of bounce....they never even knew about bounce until we turned that shit into bounce....see what Im saying?
@@videosurfah Yeah but I meant the groove so they essentially made the beat that gave life to the New Orleans genre! I know who T Tucker is and everything!
Yall the goats
Mind blowing how Oriv says this beat became some what sort of the foundation of NO Bounce Music & Lil Wayne in his Montreal TV interview says Drag Rap is the foundation of NO Bounce. He says Queens NY is NO
much love .. y'all a major part of the city culture
Brothers, that sample was used in 1991 with tt tucker & dj Irvine where dey at. Long before Manny fresh, big freeda or drake !!! Your song was awesome, but tucker & irv made the bounce concept.
These guys right here should be billionaires.
They should but unfortunately they probably don't even own their own music anymore
Memphis TN checking in
Actually, the Artists that made it explode in New orleans would have been DJ Jimi & T. Tucker, both releasing their own versions of the song "Where they at", using this record as the backbone of each. This was like in 1990..or 91'.
Waaaaay before that Mannie Fresh story in 95'.
Both versions of the song 'Where they at', are considered the foundational roots of New Orleans Bounce music....along with Cameron Paul's 'Brown Beats'.
Man go look for that Michael Jackson song "I cant help it" with dat brown beat on it.....that shit classic yo
@@videosurfah I know just what you talking about too. Very good blend!
mannnie was using that beat long before 95. they were all using it around the same time. listen to early cash money records from 92/93. and mannie was already a bounce pioneer even before that.
TT Tucker made that beat and that saying where dey at popular in N.O. before anybody on a nightclub recording.1st on the radio.everything else came soon after,but still after.If yo listen to Tucker now it might sound crazy but you had to be around.It was playing everywhere that had speakers
@@josephgreen1557 Mia X brought him out on the No Limit Reunion tour (along woth Joe Blakk, DJ Jubaliee) and he performed it!
When I first heard this it was on a Mr Majic Compilation Album. To this day I still bumo this song. It has been used in so many songs over the years it's incredible. This was a timeless beat and the rap over the beat was incredible as well. CLASSIC!!!
1991 bounce was born. Y’all did it changed the game
I was asking what year the original group came out where they were from and what happen to them so this was a real blessing thankz ShowBoys to clear all the answers.
Drag rap was my moma favourite song when she was pregnant with me in 1988 people still call me triggaman i got n alot of trouble jus cuz of da name at school "triggaman did it" i didn't hear da song until 2001
Whenever you hear “That Beat” you think of New Orleans and bounce. Thanks for sharing!
Hip-Hop Evolution brought me here. Fuckin fascinating history this Triggerman beat by The Showboys. Serious hip-hop history here.
Sir with all do respect, TT Tucker and DJ Jimmie was BEFORE Mannie and Big Freedia. Thanks for allowing us to TWERK with dat Triggerman Beat in the late 80's😁
Fair n square
Much love to you guys
Made history on creating a gender under a gender hip hop legends
Hollis strong!
They really didn’t get the props they deserved everybody use their music hip hop pioneers never seen them on Rap City 🌃 or Yo MTV Raps much respect which they had a video back in 86”.
I remember hearing this in 86 I was living in the 6th ward, shot out to the Show Boys for creating this tracking definitely built the rap scene in the City, I'm bout to be 42 and it's still used to this day, check out We Outside by Tru M Eleven
I just watched a documentary on Netflix. That said DJ jubilee and DJ Jimi used to be before Mannie fresh?
Correct...DJ Jimi for sho...and alot of New Orleans DJ would bang this jawn at every party
Mannie Fresh just took it and put some straight magical touches on it and brought us some fire ass straight live ass bangers using This Triggaman Drag Rap beat. When Mannie Fresh placed his very talented touches to it UNLV's - Drag Em From The River was birthed and changed the game up. Mystikal even did an interview on TH-cam with Heit The Great saying how fire that track was and still is and called it a timeless classic track. Mannie Fresh even sampled Mystikal and used Mystikal in the background of the entire track. He used Mystikal's voice on a track that's dissing Mystikal now that's truly dope and unheard of. The best was so dope they used it once again on Juvenile's hit single. (Set It Off) with the Mystikal sample and all. That's just a dope ass track and beat. UNLV - Drag Em From The River & Juvenile - Set It Off
@@derekleblanctv8045 what song did Mannie sample from Mystikal's album?
@@drfangaz-pronouncedlikefan4019 Mystikal "I'm"
@@milltymefresh thanks bro
Found your song on Whosampled,
Heard The Sample In 1998….. Made Me Want To Make Beats 💪🏽 Been In Love With The Triggerman Beat Since!!
How I pray to God they post so much Orv being the OG he is & Triggs being the G & DJ he has always been. How I pray there would be so much more about them. They are truly hidden 💎'$$ Hollis Queens always been nothing but love & friendly. I met Triggs sister Lay here in the H with the Blacked out Range true story. She had all the pictures & stories about Queens Holis to be exact.
City girls label need to clear most of their samples
I love this record. One question that I have to ask is you had mentioned that you lhad made this record in 1984. You had gotten your story telling from and beat box sound from Dougie Fresh and Ricky D song "The Show". The Show didn't come out until middle of 1985. How did you write this a year earlier
Did they put the pack out yet? I am a Christian Hip-Hop Artist out of New Orleans and my music has some influences from this record which we labeled as New Orleans Bounce. With that being said, I use this record in some of the music that I produce and I would love to reach out to them and have their permission to use it the proper way. If not, do you have a contact on them so that I could reach out to them and ask them for their permission.
Classic Beat
this is soooo dope ... HIPHOP HISTORY AND FACTS .. AND MUSIC KNOWLEDGE ALL IN 1 VIDEO !!! @djdacick1
If this ninja hit that button one mo time and interrupting!🤦🏾♂️
DJ Jimi used that sample in a song called where they at long before Mannie Fresh did back in 1992. Mannie Fresh was just mimicking what DJ Jimi was doing.
Respect
Lil B - Mona Lisa
Kick the Ballistics Y'all!!!!!
TriggaMan CHECK
Buggs Can Can CHECK
Buttta?? But where's Butta??
Elliot Ness..Please Who Is This?
Peace! to these brothers cause as a N.O. native [born and bred] it was that beat dat birth bounce music in the BOOT
I’m from New Orleans I know what’s up
To heck with that. You got to pay to play with my music. Kids gotta eat!
No mention of T. Tucker 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ Damn
What John P song is that
The we too movement.
💯
Did Chris brown pay them we well for go crazy?
SALUTE!!!
Who do I need to contact to get the consent to use it. I understand fully what been said, much respect my brother
These boys are New Orleanians ever thought they from queens
I got next 💯
DJ Jimi used it in 93 before Manny, please I know y’all created it but y’all should get your facts straight.
Well they sue mc t tucker dj irv was the first where they at 1992
fresh is genius
whats your IG
It's like a 1 or 2 bar loop. And what many southern producers/DJs don't tell you is that they all had to sample from New York rap beats because they didn't have a sound of their own. LMAO!!!
Don't make this into some East Coast vs Down South bullshit dude. Those same producers/ dee jays you're braggin about from New York didn't tell you they sampled a lot of southern artists' soul and blues records to make those 1 or 2 bar loops and sequenced kicks, snares and vocal riffs too, using either an sp12, fairlight or cheap, short seconds sampling rack-mount trigger units.
@@drfangaz-pronouncedlikefan4019 U made a good point. I actually happen to like 3 6 Mafia, Cash Money, No Limit and UGK and the southern 60s/70s soul blues. But guess what. Mantronix showed early hiphop southern producers how to rock the TR-808 & TR-909. Slow your roll.
@@itsrelativ3967 I'd say only for a few, but it was Afrika Bambaataa & Arthur Baker plus The Egyptian Lover from Southern California for the majority. Kurt inspired southern producers to emulate how he used the sp12 turbo for sampling James Brown drum breaks, it's functions like multi-pitching Tr 808 snares and one shot multi leveling. Another thing I'd like to point out. How could anyone outside of NY reproduce the same type of music if all of the deejays kept everything a secret ( 45's and LP were covered on purpose )? Plus the Hip-hop law was "no biting" allowed. So, if anyone did the same thing you got called out for breaking the law in the culture. Technically, anyone after DJ Hollywood or DJ Kool Herc was biting if they collected the same songs to play at the rec or at the block parties. If any producers used the same drum breaks or scratched the same vocals of instrument riffs, technically that's biting. So why would anyone from NY act funny and diss if no one's production or lingo outside of their city sound like theirs? It's a contradiction. No need to slow up. Don't get uppity.
@@drfangaz-pronouncedlikefan4019 The south all had to sound like acts from NYC to get radio play. 2 Live Crew sounded like Run DMC & Rob Base DJ EZ Rock. Geto Boys sounded like Eric & Rakim with some Kool G Rap. New Orleans bounce producers all sounded like Mantronik with a small dose of SoulSonic Force. Kris Kros had to be like EPMD with a little bit of Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre. Other than that, 3 6 Mafia stood out the most. I mean who would of ever thought of pitching samples down and using a 70 to 75 bpm with hypnotic chants, rolled hi-hats, and distorted 808 bass. Yea I may be contradicting myself since 36 Mafia has influenced even what NYC is on today. The point is early on the south had to sound like acts from NYC to get heard. You made your point. I made mines.
@@itsrelativ3967 Fa sho
Fellas they are two different beats.
U cant sample without permission,Period,and Most of the time u have heard that sound in a beat,it was sampled from their beat...So its the SAME beat,just with pieces added to it...
@@russison says who? u shouldnt SELL a sampled beat without permission in my opinion
@@lee_drifting Huh?What are u asking,bcuz from what ur sayin,u agree with me...So idk what your asking?
“Whattttt” in my show boys voice
@@russison I don't think Lee under stood
shouldn't dragnet theme song get credits too? you also sampled that old spice commercial too!!
That’s not true
pls change ur intro its way too long
thnx
What album is that fire it up song on?
I remember the showboys drag rap came out 1986 I was 14 93fm wzak Cleveland Ohio use to mix the hell out of this jam then triggerman 2000 love the beatbox mix with the beat drag rap
Lyn Tolliver wasn’t playing no rap😂😂
WDMT 107.9 was. That’s was a Club Style Show favorite
@@janconner2087 I'm talking about the rappers delight show on 93fm with mc chill and lady skill
@@janconner2087 I remember wdmt club style round 85 changed to a country station for a while lol
@@eric-fz1np it was 1986. After that, I was done with radio
@@eric-fz1np lady skill hosted Club Style. I was cool with the Sorcerer Crew thanks to my cousin Casper C
The rhymes your about to hear are mc's names have been changed to protect the innocent