THE LEBRON JAMES EFFECT: The WORST Player to Play With (ft.
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Ticket defending LeBron?!?!? I thought I’ve seen it all😂
ticket and chill had to school a casual take 😂
Ticket is my guy he just don't hold MJ or Kobe accountable for their short comings....
He wasn’t the hero we wanted, but the one we needed. LeGoat James X Tickettv coming soon
Everyone once in a while he does 😂
Facts! Best take he’s ever had 😂😂😂
If Ticket is defending Lebron, you know its a false narrative. Even with AD, the only person that stopped AD from Dominating offensively consistently was himself.
also are we going to call the players tht say that Lebron makes them better liars?
Nah ticket is bipolar when it comes to bron lol.
@donaldf9055 Not really he definitely leans a lot more to shitting on him, if he's defending lebron there's something up lol
SHUT TF UP U PROB THE SAME PERSON THAT SAID THAT AD SHOULD’VE WON FINALS MVP
He said lebron made ad which is false we learn even biggest lebron haters could defend lebron to even the biggest lebron fan
@sulwhale3171 I mean what did AD do without lebron so far exactly..? (Not saying AD wasn't great prior to lebron, but what has he accomplished before joining lebron)
I always said Lebron makes teams better not individual players
He makes average players look better. Superstar players are superstar players regardless. The problem is if you are a superstar who is the 3rd option behind LeBron you better get ready to take a step back. The 2nd superstar teammate gets to eat though. A la D Wade, Kyrie and AD. Kevin Love is terrible example because imo he was never a superstar. Just a All-star level player who put up great stats that didn't translate to wins for his team.
He makes role players better, you can’t make superstars (Kyrie, Wade, Love, Bosh) better than they already were. Go check the percentages guys like Big Z, JR, Shumpert, Kuzma, etc shot when they played with LeBron. He makes individuals better too
@@kingclutch1978 I agree with your superstar take. I just never believed Kevin Love was a superstar. His stats never led to winning seasons with MIN. Superstar players not only fill up the stat sheet but also impact winning for their team. Other than that I agree with everything else you said. 💯
@@kingclutch1978love and bosh are not superstars 😂
That applies for every player
This “lebron can’t play off-ball” narrative is totally overblown. In his early cavs years yes he couldn’t but since around 2011 he has been able to play off ball effectively. He can cut, screen and roll, runs and fills the lane in transition, backdoor lobs, and seal players under the basket. The only thing he can’t do offball is catch and shoot and there’s way more to off ball play than to be able to catch and shoot
And the way jokic plays in his offense is diff because of position and also because the nuggets role players move off ball and are all of the same page. Watch lebron in 2017 and 2012-2013 he was making alot of more quicker passes because his teammates were making timely cuts and moving without the ball
I think a big thing I dislike about people thinking they have to “maximize” players leads to these more versatile players being seen as “ball dominant” and “not portable. I think the best idea for a coach is to find their best skill and build around everything else.
He leads the league many years in cuts per game, people just idiots
I mean I think a good amount of this last post season he played off ball. Worked pretty well. So he definitely could do it when he was younger. ESPECIALLY if we're talking Miami days.
@@kingclutch1978 “Leads the league in cuts per game “=
Good off ball player 😂
People always bring up KLove and Bosh taking backseats but when you’re playing with Lebron and Wade or Lebron and Kyrie then someone has to take the backseat. And it’s not gonna be the two best ball handlers and scorer on the team.
The 3rd option always takes a reduce role in any big 3, ppl seem to forget that
@joceja23Dennis Rodman never scored. His role was always to rebound and defend
@@kiloetry5897 Klay was the 3rd option and he still averaged over 20ppg, and even shot more per game in one season than Steph and KD. Even if there is a drop off, it shouldn't be that significant to where your entire game is modified to a lesser version.
@@remnant8898completely different system
@@remnant8898Klay is one of the few ppl that it didn't hurt but that's because of how the golden state offense is ran.. another reason why kd got yelled at when he tried to iso lol
Marz’s face when bro said Bron was an “incredible midrange shooter” 😂😂
😂😂lebron has hit many clutch shots in the midrange. Has had hundreds of games and over a hundred playoff games nocking down mid range shots. 😂😂😂i love how everyone like to act like lebron got 38 thousand points dunking the ball
Delusional fanboy
@@SmokeRichBiggsbut incredible? He’s got a good enough midrange to be dangerous but he’s not a midrange master.
@@SmokeRichBiggs Lebron at his absolute best from midrange (Miami) shot about 40-45% over those years, which is actually pretty good, but not "incredible" by any means. And if you actually look at the numbers his playoff shooting from midrange is much more inconsistent and worse on average. For his whole career he shoots about 37% from midrange, which is not that great.
@@BT405 😂😂is not just about the stats watch the games lebron has knocked down countless MEANINGFUL mid range shots
The idea that lebron can't play off ball is a narrative thay would've been valid if we're talking about pre 2011 bron, but post 2011 and pre lakers bron not only became a player you couldn't just leave open, but he became a much better cutter, his offball passing has always been good, and he became a better roll man.
Have you not watched the Lakers at all👀 did you not see the Nuggets series like 2 months ago👀 LeBron can’t play off ball
@@mybestnugget7514 do you know what "pre" means?
@@strongbone9471 Off ball passing ? That literally makes zero sense
@@ImbetterthanDWade only if you don't understand basketball.
@@strongbone9471 Off ball playmaking you mean ? You literally can’t pass without ball. Lebron is not a great off ball player at all.
Ticket had me dead when he explained why Lebron is portable “he not gonna let Iman Sumpert do isos cut it out 😂😂
Yall must have forgot the money he made mozgof, delledova, norris cole, alex caruso and more
THANK U
Don’t forget Mo Williams. Dude was mid asf but Bron made him an all star 😂 then dude disappeared after leaving Bron
@@HM2FLYalso Mario chalmers, Daniel Gibson, Delly, and Mo Williams all shot career highs from 3 the years they played with Lebron. I don’t think that’s a coincidence.
@@HM2FLY facts!
I’m proud of Ticket Tv this is unbelievable he actually can talk like he got some sense
The issue isn’t the production dip from the guys he plays with. It’s that those guys always have to make a major sacrifice to fit the lebron system because lebron has never been willing to sacrifice his game or his numbers to meet his costars in the middle. Like mustard said, when the bigman is bud costar it’s a lot easier because bron still gets to control the offense 100%. But he’s gonna set the big up himself. He’s gonna get AD the ball himself. Which is fine and it works. But that third guy and the role players don’t get to shine and maximize their potential next to lebron. They are forced to play a specific way to benefit the way lebron wants to play. I’d rather jr play the way he played in NY than him just he a ok three and D guy. I’d rather k love gets to be in the post a bit more, run some pnr/ pop and utilize his inside out game than just be another guy standing in the corner. Lebron led offenses are effective for sure. And they are very efficient. But the one thing that has always stagnated them is the lack of dynamic scoring punch from anyone besides lebron and whoever is his second best player. If lebron was more willing to sacrifice some of his game and do other things that we know for sure he can do (set screens, be a cutter off ball sometimes, post up, run more free flowing sets to get guys moving around, etc) the offense would open up alot more and his other guys production would increase. But when they are only allowed to stand in the corner, then that’s all they will ever be good for.
facts.
Great explanation. I don’t understand why Chill, Ticket, and Jalen were playing dumb.
You must have missed the LeBron and D Wade era Miami Heat and LeBron and Kyrie CLE Cavs. Neither of them had to sacrifice their games. The only stars who have to change their game is always the 3rd star who becomes the 3rd option i.e Chris Bosh and Kevin Love. You say you rather JR play the way he did in NY and LOSE rather than him become a solid 3 and D player and WIN? You'd rather Kevin Love play in the post and the offense ran through him and LOSE instead of playing his role on that CLE team and WIN? What are we talking about here? As talented as JR was as a baller he was viewed as an immature and erratic head case before joining CLE. Kevin Love put up great stats on a T Wolves team as the 1st option and never led them to a winning season. So you mean to tell me you as a GM and Coach would tell your best player (LeBron James) to take a backseat to run the offense through players that aren't nowhere near the player he is and have never proven to be proven winning players? Bro you would get fired so quick by any organization with that perspective. Lol
That K Love narrative is SOOOOOO overplayed bruh, especially once T Lue became the coach.
They ran SO much action for K Love in his spots, ya’ll are just trying to rewrite history that this man was just somehow only relegated to the corner bro.
Like bro, when you have 3 offensive talents like that there’s only ONE ball, and the least effective player’s production is gonna dip from when they were on a trash team getting all the shots.
It’s crazy how everything u said it’s literally wrong.
Lebron post 2011 has done everything you mentioned. His 2013 and 2014 szns were so ridiculously efficient was due to him playing off the ball and him getting east baseline cuts and coming off pin downs for lobs.
The funny thing about the klove thing is he was top 5 in post points per game and were always hitting him in his spots numerous times especially if the offense went dry, they’d feed it to klove and it was generating offense again.
Saying the role players don’t shine when playing with lebron is also very wrong. Just look at this season Vs the grizzlies for instance, if the offense was slow and bron or Ad weren’t generating something Ar or Dlo would give light or if neither of them were clicking at that moment. Rui was getting fed because he can get to the post. On the Cavs Jr relatively did the same thing. For some spark offensively Jr was getting the ball and since he shoots anything once he’s got it’s giving more life back into the offense rather than Kyrie isos high pnr with lebron and TT or post ups that are all dead plays since they aren’t on one
Kyrie had a higher Usage rate than Lebron in Cleveland. They both handled the ball and ate Lebron could play with any Star this is the most false narrative of all time
Bruh there was so many times where lebron would just give kyrie the ball and let him iso and cook.
Usage has very little to do with how much you handle the ball. It’s just shot attempts , FTa and turnovers
@@ImbetterthanDWadeKyrie also had a higher time of possession than Bron for 2 of the 3 years, which that other year they were tied 💀 so it still rings true that Bron let Kyrie cook
@@kendrickjenkins96 The argument isn’t that you can’t get numbers or play well alongside Lebron ( Kyrie isos have zero to do with Lebron). It’s that he’s limited off ball and not very portable so he can’t fit as well as alongside other stars. Ask Westbrook how fun it was playing with a ball dominant guy who take a a lot shots. Now look at Westbrook on the clippers. Way more efficient with PG and Kawhi who aren’t ball dominant.
@@kendrickjenkins96 Also, i just looked at the tracking on the NBA’s website and Lebron led the Cavs in touches in ALL 3 seasons he played with Kyrie . The fact that Lebron a SMALL FORWARD was tied with Kyrie a POINT GUARD in time of possession does not help his off ball
Case at lol. All the other guys above him were
Dominant PG’s like John wall and harden meaning Lebron is the most ball dominant player that’s not a point guard.
Mustard got the most trash takes 😂 he sounds so confident tho
*When you go from being a #1 option on a bad/subpar team to a 3rd option on a contender obviously your role and numbers will drop. Not rocket science* 🚀
Westbrook went from a star to a role player with Lebron
@@ImbetterthanDWade yes.....he became the third/4th option
Lebron was the most efficient off ball cutter in the NBA last season by a wide margin...
in Kyries last year, he shot less shots than Kyrie per game....
Lebron has led every team he’s been on in shot attempts….. Lebron was on league average efficiency last season…
@@Thanosdidtherighthing in 2016-17 Lebron averaged 18.2 fga, Kyrie averaged 19.7 - its OK to be wrong.
Re-read my comment also, I said efficne tin off ball cuts... which is the number 1 element of playing off ball on offense.
Casualllllll
@@SummerAwe99 Lebron has LED EVERY TEAM he’s been on in shot attempts…. Notice I said every team not every season. He was at 18.4 FGA from 2015-2017 while Kyrie was at 17.7 FGA….
I keep hearing the “Lebron was the most efficient off ball cutter last season” talking point but he wasn’t even top 50 in FGA per game on cuts. His 86.9% cutting fg% efficiency was very high but only slightly above Cody Seller’s and below GP the II ( all players with one or more fga per game on cuts).
@@SummerAwe99you gotta research harder before calling people casuals 😂
@@ThanosdidtherighthingSo because he’s taking the most shots means he can’t play off ball but ppl like u consider mj, kobe, steph as the most portable players when they’re taking the most shots by far excluding steph. Make it make sense
Ticket defending bron?? It’s a new day
Ticket and Chilltown working together Nice to see.
Lmao this man saying Bron can’t play off ball like he don’t catch alleys, make great cuts, and knock down some 3s
Yea a 6’9 guy catching fast breaks alley oops…. How impressive lol. MJ was definitely more scalable.
why wasn't Kd mentioned here, dude's arguably the greatest plug in player ever
good point
How is every LeBron topic on every podcast 90% negative 🤔
Kinda crazy how, with this term “portability” it’s basically all hypothetical scenarios on what WOULD be the best skillsets to pair with other players, yet the guy who has;
ACTUALLY played and had success with a ton of different stars,
ACTUALLY played and had success with a ton of different role players,
ACTUALLY played and had success with a ton of different coaches,
is somehow viewed as the LEAST portable superstar, yet guys who’ve played in one or two systems with the same players and same coach (Curry, Jordan) are viewed as the MOST portable because HYPOTHETICALLY they’re shooting and offball play would have the same level of success on any team on any roster.
Interesting how that works..
Because he ACTUALLY played on two different superteams in a weak conference and then an mvp candidate in AD. You can be non portable and still win based on talent aka Magic Johnson who had Kareem and Worthy
@@Thanosdidtherighthing The entire point of the “scalability” argument is literally how a player would pair with other stars and other role players, what are you talking about? 💀 You were just so itching to say “superteam” yo dumbass didn’t even think about how that even related to the topic
even tho jordan is a worse passer and shooter than lebron but he’s somehow more portable…it’s ridiculous
Bro I think what it is is people are so afraid of being labeled Lebron nuthuggers that they go in the complete opposite direction of analyzing his game so they seem fair. But it just makes them look dumb. It’s like Lebron is the only player that isn’t allowed to be as great as he truly is. People always feel the need to nerf him and what he can do.
Magic played very well with Norm Nixon, who was another primary ball handler.
he definitely makes their resume look better with that championship ring
Bron should have won more than 4 though
@@williamc2671not really wen u play Two stacked dynasties only one he's accountable for is dallas series
@@brandangreen1390you also have to take into account that for a few of those finals Lebron’s all star teammates were either injured or he was just playing by himself. If Lebron had kyrie in 2015 they definitely beat golden state.
@@jaydot4956 facts im glad somebody get it
Lebron is the only player that people come up with ridiculous narratives about to argue. He’s ball dominant but effective and efficient. Why tf would we need him off ball? He’s the player you build around and when he did have competent players around him he gave them the ball and let them rock
Because if you pair him with other ball dominant players you start seeing the problems like with Westbrook who was horrible with Lebron but great with the Clippers.
@NikoBellic20080 Westbrick was already an inefficient shooter who needs shooters around him I blame the lakers for even trading for him in the first place
@@Thanosdidtherighthinghe wasn’t great with the clippers lol he just had a good stretch after a terrible stretch when he first got traded
@@Axzide Westbrook improved either slightly or dramatically in every statistical category on Clippers except for rebounding.
@@Thanosdidtherighthing because westbrook is horrible off ball while being a ball dominant player. kyrie took more shots than lebron his last year in cleveland while also having a remotely close usage rate and they worked perfectly. even though lebron and wade isn’t that good of a mix as a duo, it also went well. westbrook just garbage
Bro Aaron Gordon didn't improve his game. He's been a 16-20ppg 6-8 rebound guy who had a shaky 3pt shot and nice defense/athleticism. People are so quick to say nothing sometimes smh
Real spill
Aaron Gordon shot 45% FG in Orlando…. He’s at 54% FG in Denver. He most definitely improved . No jokic isn’t going to magically make his 3pt stroke better
@@Thanosdidtherighthing bro he wasn't as high on option list and is getting easier looks. He's not a better basketball player lol.
"Iman shumpert doing iso"😂
can’t convince me a dude who went to 8 straight nba finals in modern day, makes his teammates worse 😂
So coming in 2nd place 6 times is as good as winning a championship i guess because lebron is involved in the argument. But lets say MJ went to 10 finals in a row but only won 4 of them would you still be singing his praises if he was 4-6???
@@johnnythekid4601 your being goofy dawg, I never even mentioned jordan at all. If ANY player goes to 8 straight finals (in modern era) you can’t convince me that they are a bad teammate… so yea MJ is included in that
I hate the Lebron doesn’t play off ball well narrative.. he shot 57% from the field in 12-13 because he was off the ball. Was running baseline for quick lays and lobs, was a good screener and roller for easy lays top of key & on the left side of floor.
Yeah Luka and Harden are examples of bad offball players. Lebron at least sets screens and is a great cutter. His best days were when he was more offball in Miami
No he shot 57% FG because he got a bunch of uncontested fastbreak dunks and layups lol.
@@ImbetterthanDWade THANK YOU people don’t understand that 70% of his attempts are 5-10 ft in
@@Strongman91and?...... Jokic is literally doing the exact same thing. Go look where Jokic scores most of his buckets. Not everyone is Steph Curry. I swear Steph ruined how fans judge ball players. Shooting 3's is one aspect of the game. 80% of Jokic's shots are 2's.
@@tyrellleach1846 jokic is a center Bron is a Forward huge difference And I agree with your point about Steph he does much more than shoot 3’s
Ticket slowly becoming a Bron fan… come to the dark side man 😂
Lebron cannot play on any team. I agree with mustard. His inability to play off the ball creates that problem. And if the paint is going to be packed he can't do nothing for that team
"LeBron can't play on any team" that's not true in the slightest. Then again you agreed with Mustard and his basketball takes are severally hit or miss.
Lebron can most definitely Play off ball but he’s not willing to do it if there not someone like kyrie or wade that knows how to find him. Russ was just not able to to find him in transition and alleys and cuts which is sad cause I think Russ is better than that.
@@Zay0321 and there you help my point. Why would russ push to give him the ball only to score in the paint when the team has Davis?
Lebron literally wins a championship everywhere he goes but he can’t play on any team?
@@jaydot4956 he wins a championship at every team he's played with yes. But the said teams had to make major changes to their roster to suit his style of play. There's context to my statement.
Somebody must have really got to ticket on his Bron takes because he's totally changed his tune
… a bunch of players didn’t want to team up with Kobe but it fits the narrative to only say it about LeBron
I thought LeBron not being as portable compared to other all time greats was common sense
That’s stupid. LeBron literally played in many systems. He was the PG when he won in 2020, the SF when he won in 2016, hybrid in 2013, played off ball many of those miami years (led league in cuts and shots off assists. But sure, whatever you say
@@kingclutch1978 Playing in many systems doesn’t make you portable especially when you are on “super teams” in all of those many systems lol.
@@ImbetterthanDWade”Playing in many systems doesn’t make you portable” I don’t need to tell you why this makes absolutely no sense right?
@@ImbetterthanDWadehow many superteams do you think Bron has been on?
@@ImbetterthanDWadeyou all over the comment section commenting false narratives on Bron but i realize your a kd fan so I can't take anything you say seriously
Why do people forget LeBron played off ball in Miami
Because they love to change the narrative
Because he lost that year
Lakers were averaging more points and playing better defense with Lebron this season than without
And?
@user-ky8nd2rz4f they were like 8-7 without Lebron post trade deadline 9-2 with him post trade deadline. 1 of those 2 games he didn’t even start
Miami Bron was a monster offball what are these guys talking about 😂
Kobe's the greatest portable player in NBA history meaning he's the ultimate seamless fit with anybody.
absolutely not.
KD Steph how can we say this like we didn’t see Kobe vs shaq 😂😂 that wasn’t seamless
When in doubt make a random video disrespecting lebron James. You’ll be sure to get views then eh lads?🤦♂️
No there are many vids with lebron not in it
EXACTLY LEBRON HATER JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO HATE GOAT. IT CRAZY.
@@coreythomas3633 Lmao mate you’re in every comment praising lebron😂I respect your dedication
Except their not hating on bron and instead having valid and insightful discussions about Bron's portability compared to all times great offensive players.
@@donaldf9055 name some all time greats
You can always tell if a take is fraudulent if they can’t name players. The Mustard dude literally didn’t name a single player, he agreed that Russ was just a bad fit so who tf is he talking about😂
Ticket TV truth telling about LeBron?!?!?!?…….The world’s end is imminent.
Lebron can play 1-5. He is the most portable player. Because he will just do what ever the team needs. He could literally just be the score, passer, or he can just play defense.
The most Lebron played the center in his career was 2021-22 and it was abject failure. Too small in terms of height and wingspan to contest shots at the rim. Not a good enough rebounder. Can’t guard post scorers . Lakers defense was objectively worse
The argument is wild to me. We’re talking LeBron two times in his career linking up with *TWO* guys that are averaging 23+ beforehand. And both those times only one guys numbers drops, and that’s the bigman who was constantly on a bad team. Wade was the same exact guy. Kyrie Irving got better. Anthony Davis got better. How? They were second options. But when you’re a third guy that was a first guy before, your numbers are going to drop every single time. KG gets with Paul Pierce and Ray Allen and both their numbers drop tremendously. Nobody was sitting here saying “aw man see, you don’t wanna play with KG look at what he did to Ray Allen and Paul Pierce, Rays just a corner shooter now.” Not only did we not say that, we praised a guy like Ray or a guy like Wilt for changing their game. I feel like portability is a
What do you mean AD got better ? He was an mvp candidate before lebron lol. Kyrie got better ? Yea of course he got better . He was 22 lol.
KG, Pierce and Allen all had efficiency bumps playing with each other. They complemented each other perfectly. Lebron’s ball dominant style doesn’t fit well with a some players like we saw with Westbrook
@@Thanosdidtherighthing bosh had the two most efficient years of his career in 13 and 14, and the only reason Love’s had a dip was because he stopped shooting the 2’s that kept his average up in Minnesota. Either way the year Bron left he shot 7% less from the field, and 2018 was the second most efficient year of Love’s career. And saying LeBron’s ball dominant style doesn’t work with the most ball dominant player of all time on a downturn? Russ actually shot the 5th highest from the field in his career that first year in LA and that was despite the lowest dunk percentage of his career. No ball dominant players don’t fit next to ball dominant players, that’s the case with basically everyone. You’re not putting Nash next to Kidd or Jordan next to Kobe. It’s just not gonna work.
@@glyle2504 2017-18 was K Love’s most efficient season ? Yea it’s also the season where he took the least amount of FGA per game of his career outside of his rookie and sophomore seasons up to the point. His efficiency went down 7% the season when Lebron left ? I’m
Sure that had a lot to do with Love being INJURED ONLY PLAYING 22 GAMES that season
Kobe and MJ could actually fit well on a team. Lebron and Westbrook even if it’s prime Westbrook can’t fit. Westbrook literally had his worst efficiency season relative to league average in LA.
Almost every single player that played with lebron got worse
Wade,Bosh,Love,Hughes,Westbrook and so on
Ppl dont understand "cant play off the ball". Its Lebron James of course he can to a degree but just cause he is Bron doesnt mean he does it the best.
Its not a skillset issue, its a play style issue which hurts the GREAT PLAYERS Bron plays with.
The One Thing That’s Always Funny About This Topic Is That This Literally Happens In Every Situation When You Form A SuperTeam But LeBron Is The Only One Painted In A Negative Light. Like Your Stats Are Going To Decrease Your Playing With Other Great Players & Sacrificing For The Better Of The Team. Isn’t That What’s Supposed To Happen ? Kevin Love Giving You 17-19 PPG & 10 RPG As A 3rd Option Isn’t Good ? Same With Bosh. 18 & 9 Not Good ? Lol Man Whatever. KD Stats Went Down In Golden State. Did Steph Make Him Worse Or Vice Versa ? Lol Hell No. KG Stats Declined With Paul Pierce , Did He Make Him Worse ? No. That’s The Point Of Playing Together. You Sacrifice Your Stats To Make Your Life A Lil Easier & Maximize Winning At The Highest Level Possible.
It’s just people’s careers end usually when they play with Lebron (bosh love Russ and many more)
@@vishnuavva9265bosh career didn’t end blood cloats did that
Klove career didn’t end either
Nor did Russ career what are you referring to
great midrange shooter triggered me
Mustard sounds like a casual
Ticket defending who? This gotta be a simulation 😂
Jordan and Kobe are not play with any superstar. They need the ball
Bron doesn't play well off ball, search lebron alley oop dunks.. it'll be a bunch of off ball movement whether in half court or on the break.
Y'all mean to tell me the guy that can tell you what play you're running is incapable of playing off ball on offense? That's wild.
The truth of it all is SOME GUYS shine when the lights are bright and OTHERS don't. You play with lebron james, the stakes are always high, but I've seen a LOT of guys fold bc the pressure.
Bruh, if a player that’s a star on one team has to CHANGE THEIR GAME to play with you, you’re not portable. That player is. Just because a player can “let you rock” doesn’t mean all the OTHER players who have to change their game, are ok with that. 😂
Kevin Love becoming a spot up shooter low key ruined his damn career.
Klay didn’t have to change his game playing with KD. Rodman didn’t change his game playing with Jordan. Booker and CP3 didn’t change their game playing either KD. Russ didn’t change his game playing with PG and Kawhi, but he did have to with Bron!
3:57 Marz with the superchat is sick
This is such a bad take. Off ball LeBron to this day is still the best off ball cutter and is still a smart screener and roller.
People have to stop just looking at shooting to determine whether someone can play off ball or is more portable.
Jalen saying LeBron is the greatest playmaker is such a dumb thing to say... Just because he is in the GOAT convo, doesn't mean he is the best at everything.. Magic, Nash, Kidd, Jokic are all better than Bron. You can make a case for top 5, but come on now...
Ticket saying that about Bron had me shocked shocked 😮😳🤣😭 but you gotta becareful you know a hate Bron video is coming up from him 😅
If they really watched basketball, they would see that Lebron does a lot of screen and roll in LA. With him as the screener. Lakers play a lot of small ball with him at 4. Just watch basketball bro!
Bron can play off ball, he ain’t the best or nothing like that but he can play off ball
Not portable, but won chips on 3 different teams 😂 Magic was a worse shooter than LBJ too. So him being more portable is just silly.
LeBron is a playmaker, if he’s a playmaker and you put him in a team with guys who can score then he’s portable. And Kyrieand LeBron we’re just better than Kevin Love. It’s easy to be a big fish in a little pond tha. It is to swim with sharks. LeBron can play on any team. And two man worked with him and Kyrie
He has rings on three different teams in two different conferences how tf is he not as portable 💀
Did u forget how love played ain't got nothing to do with lebron, he played the same after lebron and heat
LeBron will end up on a team with guys who were the go-to option on a low seed/lottery team that were allowed to just do what they wanted, then all of a sudden when they come to play with LeBron and become the 2nd or 3rd on a championship team and their numbers drop, people wanna say "LeBron is holding them back," the shit is so goofy! 🤣
I’d like to know what type of guards and wings can’t play well with Lebron
Dominant Guards- if the team is well constructed Bron would basically play the AG role as a cutter. See 2023 Bron off ball numbers
Scoring Guards- We’ve seen this win 3 chips
3nD POA Guards- one of the best type of archetypes you can put with Bron as he will remain on ball here
3nD Perimeter wings- Again, great archetype for Bron
Perimeter Defense wings (no shooting)- tough but can be masked by other shooters, if willing cutter they will succeed
Big Wing Post defender- Again, make yourself available and he will find you, if this wing has a middy this is a great fit (similar to the scoring guards)
Pure Sniper- lol easy money
Undersized Stretch Big- Again, 3 chips
Rim protecting big- small sample size but this also won a chip
Switchable Big- hard to find these defensive gems but if you do they can cause a lot of disruption leading to transition and I don’t think I need to say anymore about that for Bron and team lol
Like, the reason Bron is extremely portable is for 3 simple reasons:
- He is one of the best facilitators of all time
- He has a reliable scoring option that is well defined- attack the rim
- He is a willing screener, cutter and a great shirt roll passer. This last one is what brings it all together.
I agree with Mustard. I totally get what you're saying. LeBron can't play well without the ball. Jokic can. Jokic can positively effect an offense without dominating the ball. LeBron can't do that. Jokic can effect the game equally on and off the ball at an high level. You can't say the same about LeBron.
Are you forgetting love numbers dropped because he was 3rd option not just 2
B4 AD got hurt he was giving it to AD lot in that 2020 run but the difference is they had Dwight and McGee who were the centers not AD being a center
That Klove shit is so overplayed. He still got post touches but that shit wasnt as good an open 3
Wait Jordan is more portable than bron? Bron bringing scoring assist rebound, Jordan’s is gonna shoot 30 shots a game😂
A debate designed to insult Lebron for no reason take: 5901249239583496456
Mustard dude got me cringing Mosgov TT JR Smith got paid ..Kevin love was 20 and 10 with bron as a 3rd option and space the floor perfectly for lebron n Kyrie
LeBron is not portable but won a championship on every team he played for with different players at each location makes sense 👍🏾
3 different coaches. In 3 different eras of the game. But not portable apparently
@user-ky8nd2rz4f all the top talent? Yea stop talkin 😂😂😂😂
Young Mustard Keep learning young fella
LeBron is the magic ball from the 1st space jam
Mustard take smells like mustard 🤢
Kyrie improved under Lebron
Wade was still mvp caliber
AD still a mvp caliber player with Lebron
Kuzma, monk, McGee, Reaves, Rui, mo Williams, Tristan Thompson all had career or close to career numbers with bron.
and even the players that got worse with LeBron (Bosh, Love) got a ring in exchange for their sacrifice stats
@@SkodenMOC Kevin love was objectively worse with Lebron
everybody is mistaken lebron for luka
Calling someone portable just means they arent great playmakers. I wish we'd stop acting like portability is some badge of honor when really its just outlining a major hole in someones game.
Marz is petty as hell 😂😂😂
Kevin love, chris bosh, jordan clarkson, rodney hood, jae crowder, russ, all the lakers, players from lebrons 1st year all looked worse than they were. It takes a special kind of player to play with lebron.
You can't use Kevin and Chris as an example, before Love went to Cleveland and Bosh went to Miami, Who did they play with? What did they accomplish? Jordan Clarkson before playing with LeBron was a starter on a trash Lakers squad and had more shot attempts, what did he accomplish? Jae Crowder is a journey man roll player, so I don't know why you brought him up. Rodney Hood isn't a good example either, the only player you named that's game was really effected playing with LeBron is Westbrook.
Mustard tripping
Westbrook is not an off ball player his off ball floor spacing is horrible to his inability to shoot
Lebron did play with Shaq. They clog the paint. 🤣🤣🤣
Lebron not portable?? Lebron has been on 3 different teams and won the finals with each
Every time I click on this channel they’re talking about LeBron James and how perfect he is. There are other things to talk about.
Ticket was spitting facts. People bring up Love like he wasn’t putting up empty stats.
AG not playing good with Lebron lol as a 4th option
First time hearing of the term "portable player", but how would lebron not be the most portable player ever? He's won with 3 different teams. Each team was built differently. Just by looking at the number 2 player you can tell that Wade, kyrie, and AD all have different skill sets. Which also caused Bron to play a different role in winning each of those ships as well. How are bird, magic, jordan, and jokic more portable when they had teams built around their skills? I can see if he made arguments for players that played with other teams but then that's exactly where the argument falls apart because nobody has had the kind of success that bron has had with multiple teams.
Eh not really, lebron demanded that each team he went to made trades and signings to fit his play style, thats why he takes mainly short term deals, and that’s why they call him “le gm” 😂
@@baradureye2170this is not true lol. cavs gm admitted that they would just ask lebron for his opinion since he’s arguably the biggest basketball mind of all time
@@Axzide biggest basketball mind, really? The mind who almost got Spoelstra kicked out of miami? The mind who went "screw my 2020 championship team, gimme Russel Westbrook!" lol
Kevin love was fucked up damaged goods back and endless shoulder injuries which is why he changed his game. He played the same in Miami recently
People are either ready for the lime light or “they are not” when it comes to playing with lebron. Like ticket said look at kyrie, look at Dwade, heck look at Austin reeves… every time lebron plays it’s PPV. So get ready for the cameras
Lebron always let guys/helped those rock out as Ticket said. Dwade before the injuries never got criticized because he was hooping! Same with Kyrie in Cleveland and AD his first year in LA. The reason people get criticized is because for the vast majority of time Lebron plays at an all time elite level, and then people/the media look to others who aren't pulling their weight. Look no further than these past playoffs when AD had 5 games in the teens including an 11 point game. You gonna get criticized when there are championship aspirations
Are you talking about the same Ad who watched Lebron take 22 shot a game this year in league average efficiency? Or are you raking about the Ad that led the lakers in every major statistical category but assist his first season as a Laker ?
@@HomoErectus311Ad also missed games this season and lebron from December to his injury was averaging 33 on 60ts%
@homohabilis9413 I'm talking about ADs first season when he was hooping and no one said anything bad about him. This past year and ever since then he has been unreliable in play of availability which is where people complain
Mustard is just chatting wtf are we talking about
Naaah bron aint a 6’8” jokic. He cannot play as well as jokic with his back to the basket and the playmaking in that area is different to how lebron dishes his passes.
Then when Westbrook was on ball his shot selection was terrible
oh brother
Jalen carter bronite extraordinaire smh
Hes got 4 championships and brought a championship to every team he's played for so far. I dont even like his flopping ass but man this channel really just be coming up with nonsense to keep the uploads moving
Mustard got cooked. 😭😭😭 dude is just chatting
Lebron is underrated because of the fake narratives he gets hate for being great
Saying lebron isn’t portable is ridiculous 😂😂😂😂 saying you’ve never seen him play off the ball is crazy in Miami he was a slasher, him and dwade had a whole season where they dunked everything. Chris Bosh developed into a shooter, chalmers brought the ball up plenty of seasons
Stockton is the best play maker ever
KD is the best plug in player of all time not even close🔥