the answer cant be extrapolated from the holy text, nor from deductive reasoning. We just have to be ready as it really doesnt matter for us, our hope is in Christ.
"our hope is in Christ." Love that perspective, @phoenix21studios. There can be times we elevate our temporal time on this earth above the eternal outlook we're called to. Thanks for watching and responding!
That’s such a great question, @Ben. We covered that exact thought here in this video. th-cam.com/video/GGd_duAytuA/w-d-xo.html Take heart in knowing that no matter how much time the enemy has to prepare, Jesus has prepared a place for us for all of eternity! We are able to endure the same way our Lord did, by the JOY that is set before us! (Heb. 12:2)
And what is this that we're not appointed for? "For we're not appointed unto wrath but unto salvation". What does this "wrath" mean then? Also what is this that Christ tells us to watch & pray that we may escape. Notice, the word there is "escape". What is this then that we're to pray & watch to escape? Or what does the word "escape " mean?
There will be special protections for the real church yet the Anti Christ will be allowed to persecute us..just like now. So many Christians are in persecuted. We're not better than them.
@@ErA-el1je Good thoughts on Revelation 13:7. I'm grateful that God is helping to develop in His church a more complete understanding of suffering as instructed in His Word. It definitely goes against what many today call the prosperity gospel.
kingdom of god come NOT by outward observation... kingdom of god is within you it's allegory; heaven=head; earth=body; new heaven=renewed mind; new earth=renewed strength; new jersualem=(city of) peace inside... behold I show you a mystery, we shall not all sleep; corruption shall put on incorruption, mortality shall put on immortality; I shall quicken (bring to life) your mortal bodies; the whole creation awaits in earnest expectation for the manifestation of the SONS of god!!!
Who gets gathered first when Jesus comes again? We know Jesus said the wicked are gathered first when He comes to earth. This is the post-tribulational harvest, not the Rapture. So the Rapture has to happen prior to the Tribulation. Those who oppose the PreTrib Rapture need to ask themselves: 1.) How many aspects to the first coming of Jesus was there? 2.) Does Jesus change? The answer to these questions are simple... 1.) Two 2.) No It is easy to see that since there were two aspects to Jesus first coming; and that Jesus doesn't change, then there is therefore two aspects to Jesus second coming. First coming: 1.) Preincarnate appearances 2.) Incarnate coming Second coming: 1.) Appearance in the air to gather the righteous and bring them back to the Father's house. 2.) Coming to earth to gather the wicked first and bring them back to Jerusalem, Israel. ____________ Rapture = The righteous being received by Jesus Himself (not angels) in the air, to be with Him at the Father's House beholding His Glory. (John 14:1-4; 17:24; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 1 Corinthians 15:51-52; Luke 21:36) - Pre-trib Rapture Second Coming = Angels gathering the wicked first, then the righteous being gathered by angels back to Jesus in Jerusalem, Israel. (Matthew 13:28-30, 39-43, 49-50; 24:31, 37-42; 25:31-32; Mark 13:26-27; Luke 17:26-30, 34-36) - Post-trib Harvest Let's keep these events in their proper order. Maranatha!! ✨️👑✨️
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, @VVarpedVVarriors! It’s a great explanation of the video clip we shared, how we can have different views on issues that aren’t essential to salvation. Sometimes it can be hard to get into topics that deserve in-depth discussions like this one over a comment section. Would you ever consider us connecting sometime in the future? If so, please email me directly at onlinecare@victoryatl.com . I look forward to hearing from you!
A good way to have people not even watch the video or leave a like in the first place. Because how do you know what I believe about the rapture? What if I believe what you believe about the rapture? Weird.
Jesus did not come to bring unity, but a sword. If you're accepting different scripture, you should rebuke it, and avoid that person. Not sing koombaya and "agree to disagree". KJV only, and use discernment.
@ChrisS-no3ft - Thanks for watching and commenting! Totally agree on your thoughts of not accepting 'different scripture'. Not sure why you seem against "Kumbaya", though. It's a great way to position our hearts to God in intercession for those who are in need. I'd encourage you to give it a second chance. 👍God bless!
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the answer cant be extrapolated from the holy text, nor from deductive reasoning. We just have to be ready as it really doesnt matter for us, our hope is in Christ.
"our hope is in Christ." Love that perspective, @phoenix21studios. There can be times we elevate our temporal time on this earth above the eternal outlook we're called to. Thanks for watching and responding!
HOW can you prepare for the tribulation ?!?
The devil had thousands of years to prepare...
That’s such a great question, @Ben.
We covered that exact thought here in this video. th-cam.com/video/GGd_duAytuA/w-d-xo.html
Take heart in knowing that no matter how much time the enemy has to prepare, Jesus has prepared a place for us for all of eternity! We are able to endure the same way our Lord did, by the JOY that is set before us! (Heb. 12:2)
You don’t prepare for the Tribulation, you prepare for the rapture!!!! Prepare through Jesus Christ! 1st Corinthians 15:1-4
And what is this that we're not appointed for? "For we're not appointed unto wrath but unto salvation". What does this "wrath" mean then?
Also what is this that Christ tells us to watch & pray that we may escape. Notice, the word there is "escape". What is this then that we're to pray & watch to escape? Or what does the word "escape " mean?
There will be special protections for the real church yet the Anti Christ will be allowed to persecute us..just like now. So many Christians are in persecuted. We're not better than them.
@@ErA-el1je Good thoughts on Revelation 13:7. I'm grateful that God is helping to develop in His church a more complete understanding of suffering as instructed in His Word. It definitely goes against what many today call the prosperity gospel.
kingdom of god come NOT by outward observation... kingdom of god is within you
it's allegory; heaven=head; earth=body; new heaven=renewed mind; new earth=renewed strength; new jersualem=(city of) peace inside...
behold I show you a mystery, we shall not all sleep; corruption shall put on incorruption, mortality shall put on immortality;
I shall quicken (bring to life) your mortal bodies;
the whole creation awaits in earnest expectation for the manifestation of the SONS of god!!!
Who gets gathered first when Jesus comes again?
We know Jesus said the wicked are gathered first when He comes to earth. This is the post-tribulational harvest, not the Rapture. So the Rapture has to happen prior to the Tribulation.
Those who oppose the PreTrib Rapture need to ask themselves:
1.) How many aspects to the first coming of Jesus was there?
2.) Does Jesus change?
The answer to these questions are simple...
1.) Two
2.) No
It is easy to see that since there were two aspects to Jesus first coming; and that Jesus doesn't change, then there is therefore two aspects to Jesus second coming.
First coming:
1.) Preincarnate appearances
2.) Incarnate coming
Second coming:
1.) Appearance in the air to gather the righteous and bring them back to the Father's house.
2.) Coming to earth to gather the wicked first and bring them back to Jerusalem, Israel.
____________
Rapture = The righteous being received by Jesus Himself (not angels) in the air, to be with Him at the Father's House beholding His Glory. (John 14:1-4; 17:24; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 1 Corinthians 15:51-52; Luke 21:36) - Pre-trib Rapture
Second Coming = Angels gathering the wicked first, then the righteous being gathered by angels back to Jesus in Jerusalem, Israel. (Matthew 13:28-30, 39-43, 49-50; 24:31, 37-42; 25:31-32; Mark 13:26-27; Luke 17:26-30, 34-36) - Post-trib Harvest
Let's keep these events in their proper order.
Maranatha!!
✨️👑✨️
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, @VVarpedVVarriors!
It’s a great explanation of the video clip we shared, how we can have different views on issues that aren’t essential to salvation.
Sometimes it can be hard to get into topics that deserve in-depth discussions like this one over a comment section. Would you ever consider us connecting sometime in the future? If so, please email me directly at onlinecare@victoryatl.com . I look forward to hearing from you!
A good way to have people not even watch the video or leave a like in the first place. Because how do you know what I believe about the rapture? What if I believe what you believe about the rapture? Weird.
Jesus did not come to bring unity, but a sword. If you're accepting different scripture, you should rebuke it, and avoid that person. Not sing koombaya and "agree to disagree". KJV only, and use discernment.
@ChrisS-no3ft - Thanks for watching and commenting! Totally agree on your thoughts of not accepting 'different scripture'. Not sure why you seem against "Kumbaya", though. It's a great way to position our hearts to God in intercession for those who are in need. I'd encourage you to give it a second chance. 👍God bless!