Using new technology for ligjhting (LEDs), Hot Waters Heaters and clothes dryers (heat pump), higher SEER heat pumps, lower energy computers and peripherals, STAR rated appliances has actually lowered my electric bill despite adding an EV daily driver.
I can say for sure that Montreal has a very good up and coming infrastructure. I cannot charge at home, so I rely on public charging for my PHEV. I almost never have issues finding a charger and I have only very rarely seen chargers that were down. The ones that were down, were always repaired within a day or so.
Excellent information! I have owned an electric vehicle for 3 years. Love it! It saves me $500 a month in gas cost alone. I live in BC. I have noticed an escalation in misinformation in the media as well.
Just because you don't like the information doesn't make it miss information. All the gas money that you saved can be thrown out the window. Keep that car a little bit longer; let something go wrong with an inverter or battery that they don't have in stock to fix your car because they can't make the batteries at just any old mom and pop. it has to be made at the LG or CATL or whatever plant that are clever than an Operation Room. Ince they stop making them, they're done. once the stock is used up the price go's through the roof they batteries can cost more than your car. Every penny that you save goes out the window plus technicians charge way more to fix them if you do need something and eventually something will go wrong with anything. now if you're trading it in a couple days no problem you got away with it. But even then that's only if you leased the vehicle. if you bought it and have to go trade in a car that usually is worth about 50% as much and that's not the proportion of loan that's usually left unless you're just well off enough you paid heavy upfront and paid it off then the gas savings can easily be erased by depreciation. it's a total package You cannot just look at the cost of what it was when it was fun and you were happy. You have to look at the entire package after you have sold a vehicle repaired it everything that it ever needs then you could determine how much it actually cost you Right now you're living in the honeymoon
Everything you just said above is anecdotal and opinion. That’s why we rely on evidence and ignore your nonsense. EVs are great - ask anyone that actually owns one. Then back that up the evidence and the picture is clear.
We have had two competing charging standards in Canada (NACS & CCS) so a particular brand of EV could only use about half of the chargers out there. That changed this year to NACS for everyone, so the number of available chargers to an EV user effectively doubled. You may need a compact adapter, that some brands provide for free.
My concern is that we did see a few very expensive battery replacements on ioniq5's from hitting road debris,... ~$60K was quoted out of warranty... I know there's more to the story than that... and I do believe the gap is unexperienced EV technicians, or money hungry dealership networks to disassemble the battery pack to fix minor problems like this instead of a full outright replacement and forcing a consumer into a new vehicle sale. Munro associates did a tear down of the battery and you can see how the cooling plate could be compromised by impact if not properly protected, which is a design defect in my opinion and Hyundai should be accountable and honour a warranty replacement. just my 2 cents... I have seen a few people cancel their orders because of it...
Yes, greedy dealerships are a problem. There have been two cases of Ioniq5 batteries neding replacement after a minor accident, and yet Hyundai Canada denied the replacement battery cost 60k but motormouth produced the invoices showing it was 60k. Then HC said the case should have been forwarded to them, so the second customer who came out said they did forward the problem to them but they just sent them back to the dealership. We bought our Ioniq5 above MSRP with mandatory ceramic coating and winter tire package included. Also, the manual says maintenance service every 12,000km or 12 months but dealerships are suggesting 6,000km. We just had our 24,000km maintenance and it cost us over $350! Hyundai also suggests changing the low conductivity coolant every 60,000 km; guess how much that costs? Over $900 CAD. How will we entice people to go electric with these prices?
I'm a hybrid driver, but I'm looking at an EV in the next 3 to 5 years and while I really like the looks of the Hyundai's EVs it's hard to not go with a Tesla.
@@Optimistprime. I hate that Hyundai is suggesting maintenance checks every 6 months or 12,000km. My 24,000km check cost me $350+. And they also want to change the low conductivity fluid every 60,000km which costs $400-900 depending on the dealership.
Regrettably even BEV advocates refuse to mention Tesla and the leadership role they play in this transition. The only reliable DC charging network IN THE WORLD is Tesla.
No question that Tesla leads the way and was responsible for kickstarting electrification. Don't think anyone is 'refusing to mention it' (I just did). Remember though, that competition is good for consumers.
@@BackyardDiscoveries Couldn't agree more. I'm glad Tesla opened up the super charger network. Hopefully the "competition" can come up with more convincing options.
@@pauld3327 In UK these other networks are pretty good, but much more expensive. From 20 to 50%,. Everytime I have to make a long journey, I check for Tesla chargers free to all on the way. If there are not, then I use other network chargers.
Really like this presentation. A great informative video. There are so many people that don't believe in electric cars for the reasons you mention. I hope this video gets out to alot of people. Also nice to hear Canada doing alot to move electrification forward. Great job on this episode :)
You don’t actually have to “start” an EV. There is no starter motor, you don’t need to get a big cold block of metal spinning and warmed up. You just wake it up.
Charging reliability and availability are mostly problems who didn't buy Teslas. Also, range loss in cold weather is more of a problem for people who didn't buy Teslas.
Tesla has opened their charging network to other EV manufacturers, so this should no longer be a problem. Also, most EV owners charge at home and need to use public chargers only when they do long drives.
A company called Aptera is expecting to start deliveries of a solar EV in late 2024. That said, it's a 3-wheeled, highly-optimized vehicle that can gain ~40 miles of range from solar per day. You pretty much need to get that extreme if you want to be 100% solar and if you're driving more than 40 miles/day, you'll still need to plug in. The physics are HARD against solar EVs. You get roughly 1000 Watts per square meter in direct, full sun. The most efficient solar panels that are readily available manage to capture about 22.8% so that will be 228 Watts per square meter. For a 10 hour day, you're looking at 2.2 kWh from such a system. My Chevy Bolt is fairly efficient averaging 4mi/kWh, so 2.2 kWh will take me ~8 miles. You can see pretty quickly that if you want to gain any appreciable amount of range during a day you're going to need a lot of surface area which has some obvious practical limits in a vehicle that also needs to be aerodynamic, lightweight, and needs to physically fit in parking spaces. I'd be willing to bet any company that is showing something that looks like a regular car and is calling it 100% solar is a scam.
Dear sir At solar noon on a clear day the sun delivers about 1000 watts of IR, Visible, and UV radiation or light. Current solar panels convert 20% or so of this to electricity. So that's 200 watts. Now let's take the hood, roof and trunk area of a mid size ICE or EV. Let's be generous and say the car is 4 meters long and 2 wide. That's 8 meters squared. So 200 X 8= 1600 watts AT SOLAR NOON ON A CLEAR DAY, WHEN THE SUN IS DIRECTLY OVERHEAD. In southern Canada as in the northern USA May June and July approximate this. So yes at noon the panels could deliver as much as a Level 1 charger, from say 10 am to 2pm, again I'm being generous. That's 4 x 1600 watts or 6.4 KWH. I am fortunate to have 2 homes, one a safe distance from Chicago and the other in sunny Chula Vista CA, 7 miles from the MX border. We put in a 4kw solar system. In summer when the sun rises at 6 am and sets at 830, that's over 14 hours of sunshine. It would be a great mistake to multiply 4000 x 14 and expect 56 KWH per summer day. We get only 20 to 22 KWH per day in summer and 5 to 12 in the winter. San Diego has many cloudy days in January February and this year into March. So maybe 14 KWH per day average during an average year. So 25% of the energy that would happen if the sun shown day and night. So let's multiply our 1600 watt car charger by 25% of 24 hours or 6 hours, so 9600 watt hours or 9.6 KWH per day AVERAGE in sunny San Diego. So if you wanted to charge fully a 100KWh long range Tesla you would need to leave it in full sun for 10 days. Ahhh poor Chicago and Canada! In Chicago we have only about 50% of of average solar irradiation of San Diego. I doubt Banff Montreal Toronto get even that much! Oh gosh! I forgot about snow! Car has to be outside to get sun light. Would your plan be to clean the snow off your car before going to work in the winter and pray you can get 2 or 3 kwh before it snows and you drive home again??? Will you make it??? Sorry if I have bothered you with a little bit of my practical experience and high school math and physics. Sorry the numbers simply don't work out in the Great White North sir.
@@jovymac7986 Hard to manage from a small device. Also, the list of questions 'jump around' as people rate them on zoom. He did a great job under the circumstances IMHO.
I will never buy an EV. It isn't reliable in cold weather. When you live in a cold climate this is a major issue. The same reason you cannot use a heat pump to warm you house. It isn't strong enough to do the job. Recycling of the EV vehicles should have been thought out and implemented long before they came on the market. The extraction of these materials in other countries is also another issue that needs to be resolved. How do you recycle something like this? The same issues apply for solar panels and windmills.
Guess you missed part of the webinar. These batteries ARE being recycled and it can be done profitably. Oh, and Norway is a leader in EV adoption. Apparently EVs work fine in cold weather.
The batteries are repurposed when they reach 70-75% capacity (which takes around 10 years or more) for energy storage in solar/wind, etc. installations. When their storage capacity becomes too low after several more years, that's when they're sent for recycling. As for reliability, we've owned an Ioniq5 and MachE for 2 years now, and in -40C winter, they have never failed to turn on. We would turn the climate on via the app, enter a nice cozy vehicle, then drive off without needing to worry about the 12v battery discharging or plugging in the block heater. When we forget to turn on the climate, we just get in, push the on button, then drive off without needing to warm up the engine.
I have friends with Teslas and none of them have had issues other than a bit of a range drop. Your point about recycling is moot because they already recycle them and while there are an environmental cost to batteries the car its self is better over its life time emissions then any gas car and better batteries are also in the pipeline.
First off , there are so many EVs in Norway and it gets cold there. Second, I have had an EV for 10 years and driven in very cold weather. WE drove from London, Ontario to Vancouver, BC in late December in 2019. Hit minus 40 in the Rockies plus major snow and one day winds over 100kmh. No issues. Car was warm and all the chargers worked. We have driven each year south in the winter on holidays , through the cold and snow. All fine. As to recycling, plans were in the works before EVs hit the road. Nissan built a plant but shut it down as there were too few batteries to recycle. Today there are many doing EV batteries as well as phone and computer batteries. As to extraction of minerals, another misinformation. The tons of materials being mined are in the millions. The tons of oil and coal extraction measure in the billions of tones. And that is not recycled. The fact you don't own an EV and you must be reading all the FUD out there is telling. Please do some real research.
Excellent! Thanks.
Using new technology for ligjhting (LEDs), Hot Waters Heaters and clothes dryers (heat pump), higher SEER heat pumps, lower energy computers and peripherals, STAR rated appliances has actually lowered my electric bill despite adding an EV daily driver.
I can say for sure that Montreal has a very good up and coming infrastructure. I cannot charge at home, so I rely on public charging for my PHEV. I almost never have issues finding a charger and I have only very rarely seen chargers that were down. The ones that were down, were always repaired within a day or so.
Excellent information! I have owned an electric vehicle for 3 years. Love it! It saves me $500 a month in gas cost alone. I live in BC. I have noticed an escalation in misinformation in the media as well.
Just because you don't like the information doesn't make it miss information. All the gas money that you saved can be thrown out the window. Keep that car a little bit longer; let something go wrong with an inverter or battery that they don't have in stock to fix your car because they can't make the batteries at just any old mom and pop. it has to be made at the LG or CATL or whatever plant that are clever than an Operation Room. Ince they stop making them, they're done. once the stock is used up the price go's through the roof they batteries can cost more than your car. Every penny that you save goes out the window plus technicians charge way more to fix them if you do need something and eventually something will go wrong with anything. now if you're trading it in a couple days no problem you got away with it. But even then that's only if you leased the vehicle. if you bought it and have to go trade in a car that usually is worth about 50% as much and that's not the proportion of loan that's usually left unless you're just well off enough you paid heavy upfront and paid it off then the gas savings can easily be erased by depreciation. it's a total package You cannot just look at the cost of what it was when it was fun and you were happy. You have to look at the entire package after you have sold a vehicle repaired it everything that it ever needs then you could determine how much it actually cost you Right now you're living in the honeymoon
Everything you just said above is anecdotal and opinion. That’s why we rely on evidence and ignore your nonsense. EVs are great - ask anyone that actually owns one. Then back that up the evidence and the picture is clear.
We have had two competing charging standards in Canada (NACS & CCS) so a particular brand of EV could only use about half of the chargers out there. That changed this year to NACS for everyone, so the number of available chargers to an EV user effectively doubled. You may need a compact adapter, that some brands provide for free.
Can't believe I didn't find this sooner. Really great stuff here.
Appreciate your support. We try every month to bring something helpful and informative!
What about the electrical cost of making and refining Petrol and Diseasel????
great video
Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for the like!
Something that many people do not take into consideration, however, is the cost of insurance for a full EV. Sadly, it is significantly more :/
I guess that depends on where you live. Insurance for my EV is about the same as my last gas car.
Norway is already at 93% BEV market share!
My concern is that we did see a few very expensive battery replacements on ioniq5's from hitting road debris,... ~$60K was quoted out of warranty... I know there's more to the story than that... and I do believe the gap is unexperienced EV technicians, or money hungry dealership networks to disassemble the battery pack to fix minor problems like this instead of a full outright replacement and forcing a consumer into a new vehicle sale. Munro associates did a tear down of the battery and you can see how the cooling plate could be compromised by impact if not properly protected, which is a design defect in my opinion and Hyundai should be accountable and honour a warranty replacement. just my 2 cents... I have seen a few people cancel their orders because of it...
Yes, greedy dealerships are a problem. There have been two cases of Ioniq5 batteries neding replacement after a minor accident, and yet Hyundai Canada denied the replacement battery cost 60k but motormouth produced the invoices showing it was 60k. Then HC said the case should have been forwarded to them, so the second customer who came out said they did forward the problem to them but they just sent them back to the dealership. We bought our Ioniq5 above MSRP with mandatory ceramic coating and winter tire package included. Also, the manual says maintenance service every 12,000km or 12 months but dealerships are suggesting 6,000km. We just had our 24,000km maintenance and it cost us over $350! Hyundai also suggests changing the low conductivity coolant every 60,000 km; guess how much that costs? Over $900 CAD. How will we entice people to go electric with these prices?
I'm a hybrid driver, but I'm looking at an EV in the next 3 to 5 years and while I really like the looks of the Hyundai's EVs it's hard to not go with a Tesla.
@@Optimistprime. I hate that Hyundai is suggesting maintenance checks every 6 months or 12,000km. My 24,000km check cost me $350+. And they also want to change the low conductivity fluid every 60,000km which costs $400-900 depending on the dealership.
Regrettably even BEV advocates refuse to mention Tesla and the leadership role they play in this transition. The only reliable DC charging network IN THE WORLD is Tesla.
No question that Tesla leads the way and was responsible for kickstarting electrification. Don't think anyone is 'refusing to mention it' (I just did). Remember though, that competition is good for consumers.
@@BackyardDiscoveries Couldn't agree more. I'm glad Tesla opened up the super charger network. Hopefully the "competition" can come up with more convincing options.
Not true in Europe. Many great DC charging networks over here
@@pauld3327 Lucky you.
@@pauld3327 In UK these other networks are pretty good, but much more expensive. From 20 to 50%,. Everytime I have to make a long journey, I check for Tesla chargers free to all on the way. If there are not, then I use other network chargers.
Really like this presentation. A great informative video. There are so many people that don't believe in electric cars for the reasons you mention. I hope this video gets out to alot of people. Also nice to hear Canada doing alot to move electrification forward. Great job on this episode :)
You don’t actually have to “start” an EV. There is no starter motor, you don’t need to get a big cold block of metal spinning and warmed up. You just wake it up.
Charging reliability and availability are mostly problems who didn't buy Teslas. Also, range loss in cold weather is more of a problem for people who didn't buy Teslas.
Heat pumps make a big difference in cold weather.
Tesla has opened their charging network to other EV manufacturers, so this should no longer be a problem. Also, most EV owners charge at home and need to use public chargers only when they do long drives.
when will cars be 100 percent solar? that would be amazing
A company called Aptera is expecting to start deliveries of a solar EV in late 2024. That said, it's a 3-wheeled, highly-optimized vehicle that can gain ~40 miles of range from solar per day. You pretty much need to get that extreme if you want to be 100% solar and if you're driving more than 40 miles/day, you'll still need to plug in. The physics are HARD against solar EVs. You get roughly 1000 Watts per square meter in direct, full sun. The most efficient solar panels that are readily available manage to capture about 22.8% so that will be 228 Watts per square meter. For a 10 hour day, you're looking at 2.2 kWh from such a system. My Chevy Bolt is fairly efficient averaging 4mi/kWh, so 2.2 kWh will take me ~8 miles. You can see pretty quickly that if you want to gain any appreciable amount of range during a day you're going to need a lot of surface area which has some obvious practical limits in a vehicle that also needs to be aerodynamic, lightweight, and needs to physically fit in parking spaces. I'd be willing to bet any company that is showing something that looks like a regular car and is calling it 100% solar is a scam.
When you install solar on your house and charge at home off the energy from the panels.
Dear sir
At solar noon on a clear day the sun delivers about 1000 watts of IR, Visible, and UV radiation or light. Current solar panels convert 20% or so of this to electricity. So that's 200 watts. Now let's take the hood, roof and trunk area of a mid size ICE or EV. Let's be generous and say the car is 4 meters long and 2 wide. That's 8 meters squared. So 200 X 8= 1600 watts AT SOLAR NOON ON A CLEAR DAY, WHEN THE SUN IS DIRECTLY OVERHEAD.
In southern Canada as in the northern USA May June and July approximate this. So yes at noon the panels could deliver as much as a Level 1 charger, from say 10 am to 2pm, again I'm being generous. That's 4 x 1600 watts or 6.4 KWH. I am fortunate to have 2 homes, one a safe distance from Chicago and the other in sunny Chula Vista CA, 7 miles from the MX border. We put in a 4kw solar system. In summer when the sun rises at 6 am and sets at 830, that's over 14 hours of sunshine. It would be a great mistake to multiply 4000 x 14 and expect
56 KWH per summer day. We get only 20 to 22 KWH per day in summer and 5 to 12 in the winter. San Diego has many cloudy days in January February and this year into March. So maybe 14 KWH per day average during an average year. So 25% of the energy that would happen if the sun shown day and night.
So let's multiply our 1600 watt car charger by 25% of 24 hours or 6 hours, so 9600 watt hours or 9.6 KWH per day AVERAGE in sunny San Diego.
So if you wanted to charge fully a 100KWh long range Tesla you would need to leave it in full sun for 10 days.
Ahhh poor Chicago and Canada! In Chicago we have only about 50% of of average solar irradiation of San Diego.
I doubt Banff Montreal Toronto get even that much! Oh gosh! I forgot about snow! Car has to be outside to get sun light.
Would your plan be to clean the snow off your car before going to work in the winter and pray you can get 2 or 3 kwh before it snows and you drive home again??? Will you make it???
Sorry if I have bothered you with a little bit of my practical experience and high school math and physics. Sorry the numbers simply don't work out in the Great White North sir.
@@BlackhawkPilotyes, I have 6 years of solar only miles
why did james get the responsibility of reading the questions? His camera's shaky, lighting's poor, he talks slowly...
FYI, James had a computer problem and had to switch at the last minute.
Okay. That's why he really didn't look prepared. He was still choosing which questions to read in the middle of the presentation.@@BackyardDiscoveries
Raise your hand you can do it next time.
@@jovymac7986 Hard to manage from a small device. Also, the list of questions 'jump around' as people rate them on zoom. He did a great job under the circumstances IMHO.
"great job" was what the presenter did. Hats off to her. @@BackyardDiscoveries
I will never buy an EV. It isn't reliable in cold weather. When you live in a cold climate this is a major issue. The same reason you cannot use a heat pump to warm you house. It isn't strong enough to do the job. Recycling of the EV vehicles should have been thought out and implemented long before they came on the market. The extraction of these materials in other countries is also another issue that needs to be resolved. How do you recycle something like this? The same issues apply for solar panels and windmills.
Guess you missed part of the webinar. These batteries ARE being recycled and it can be done profitably. Oh, and Norway is a leader in EV adoption. Apparently EVs work fine in cold weather.
The batteries are repurposed when they reach 70-75% capacity (which takes around 10 years or more) for energy storage in solar/wind, etc. installations. When their storage capacity becomes too low after several more years, that's when they're sent for recycling.
As for reliability, we've owned an Ioniq5 and MachE for 2 years now, and in -40C winter, they have never failed to turn on. We would turn the climate on via the app, enter a nice cozy vehicle, then drive off without needing to worry about the 12v battery discharging or plugging in the block heater. When we forget to turn on the climate, we just get in, push the on button, then drive off without needing to warm up the engine.
I have friends with Teslas and none of them have had issues other than a bit of a range drop. Your point about recycling is moot because they already recycle them and while there are an environmental cost to batteries the car its self is better over its life time emissions then any gas car and better batteries are also in the pipeline.
First off , there are so many EVs in Norway and it gets cold there.
Second, I have had an EV for 10 years and driven in very cold weather. WE drove from London, Ontario to Vancouver, BC in late December in 2019. Hit minus 40 in the Rockies plus major snow and one day winds over 100kmh. No issues. Car was warm and all the chargers worked. We have driven each year south in the winter on holidays , through the cold and snow. All fine.
As to recycling, plans were in the works before EVs hit the road. Nissan built a plant but shut it down as there were too few batteries to recycle.
Today there are many doing EV batteries as well as phone and computer batteries.
As to extraction of minerals, another misinformation.
The tons of materials being mined are in the millions.
The tons of oil and coal extraction measure in the billions of tones. And that is not recycled.
The fact you don't own an EV and you must be reading all the FUD out there is telling.
Please do some real research.
Don't buy, we didn't ask you to buy one. You can keep your gas-diesel car till you or it dies.