This! They *knew* the moment they handed it to the grunts *someone* would try it and they needed to know what kind of damage control would be necessary 😂
The beehive rounds were permissible under the Geneva Convention because the flechettes were not medically difficult to detect in any way, nor were they a delivery mechanism for poisons or contagious diseases. Flechette rounds were the way to convert a heavy vehicle mounted cannon (or recoilless rifle) into a direct-fire area-of-affect anti-personnel weapon. Against targets behind soft cover, such as wooden walls, hedges, bushes and metal less than an inch or so thick, it would be devastatingly effective, but thicker armor, stone walls, thicker log construction or thicker dirt walls (more than 6 or so inches thick), its effectiveness drops off rapidly. Against the heavier armor, they'd just drop in regular explosive or armor-piercing high explosive rounds to get the job done.
They should never have given these up, it's a truly terrifying weapon only the Marines can truly appreciate. Bring it back and call it the Mattis, it's the kind of thing that keeps other people awake.
During this years July 4th celebration while working one of the grills at the American Legion food stand I had time to sit down with an army Vietnam vet. I asked him if he had any experience with the Ontos. He smiled and said that's a marine thing, but they were beautiful to have close by. Didn't try to hide them because the NVA and Cong knew what it was capable of. A pure example of what happens when you put two groups together that know how to improvise. A farm example of needing something for a task so if we're going to build it lets REALLY build it.
The best part about the ontos is that because it had 6 separate barrels they could have multiple different combinations of ammunition types loaded at any given time. For example they could have 2 AT rounds, 1 HE round, 1HEAT round, and 2 Beehive rounds allowing them to engage and destroy pretty much anything they could possibly come up against.
@@hyperthermogenic well yeah lost of us come from there, or go to/return to that life after our service, yours truly included, grew up farming and dairy farms, now work for a company that installs equipment on dairy farms, along with maintaining them. We come from there, know it, love and are good at stuff like that, and just getting the job done, that goes for most of the US military most of us come from the country and rural areas, we are the farmers, or their kids. -‘d more than likely they were military and served in all the wars we fought. One or more. Which is a stupidly large list. Way higher than the popular ones. Or unpopular ones, take that tiny list, multiply by 100, that’s closer to reality, lol. Farmers and grunts/marines overlap so well, cause we all come from the same stock, farmers are the most chill and “normal” grunts, like army are the most second “normal” then, then you have us…US Marines, we are broken and glorious but people who know us personally worry about our sanity, legitimately, don’t worry we are good country folk. But dont screw with us/cross us, we do crazy shit like this, cause it’s fun, and funny. No matter how messed up similar things are, we will always choose/make the most horrendous things and do terrible things in the name of freedom .for any modern shit, hell diver’s 2 is meme to the USMC. We take that lightly and as a joke. That should say everything. Or at least me an buddies would. Of it came out in 09-2010 at the latest.
@@Plastikdoom I am probably quite a bit older than you might expect here. My uncle served 2 tours in, Vietnam. He told me once his Marine buddies called him, "The worm" because when the bullets started flying he was not just in the mud he was under it. That was one of the very few things he ever told me about his time over there. I had planed to follow in his footsteps, so-to-speak, and join the Core after high school but a bad car wreck back in 1987 changed the rest of my life when I was 15. I died twice and am disabled now because of the crash. My uncle was one of the toughest S.O.B's You would ever want to meet but had a huge heart. He was one of my heroes growing up. He and my father and other uncle all worked on farms both here in rural, Michigan and out in, Washington state, where we had other family, as did I for a time so I am familiar and agree with all of that. Being the old fart that I have now become somehow I'm less familiar with, but at least know what they are, when you mention, Hell Divers 2 and memes. But I do know, Farmers, Marines and how to get shit done what ever that may be. Thank you for your service both in the Core and on the farm, Marine.
Flechettes are not banned, per se, and neither are canister rounds (“grapeshot” type AP rounds). Specific uses of flechettes are banned but the law is generally considered weak and many different modern weapons not named in the Geneva rules can generate that sort of outcome.
NATO STEPS IN: Did you blow all those guys to bits with 6 bazooka rounds?? AMERICA: First of all, their recoilless rifles. Secondly, we did give them warnings in 50 cal tracer format.
It's "anti-everything that way that's not hard enough" so yeah, effectively. However, you're loosing a lot of precision that way. If drone swarms are a dense enough target, I can see beehive rounds getting used, but I expect enemies would adjust quickly, especially if they're letting AI control the swarm logic.
4:58 This is a legitimate method that is still used today, particularly in a bunch of European tank designs (the British Challenger is one of the biggest examples of this). Even the Abrams can use this method, but its targeting computer is its primary means of aiming its cannon while using tracer rounds like this is the backup means.
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Some of the best interviews from Vietnam were NVA soldiers who were unfortunate enough to be Hue during TET when Marines from Phu Bai showed up with these damn things. Their descriptions of being behind 20 foot deep walls while having this thing fired at them is hysterical.
Grew up on a farm in the '60s and '70s. One fall day you see a hog hanging from a tree limb when you get home from school. Next week it's a John Deere Tractor motor, then, in Dec and Jan it'll be deer. I used to get my Mom one of those "camo" deer for Mother's Day. Say "Wild Milk Fed Veal". One you can put an entire ham in a Gallon Freezer bag.
And no, it’s not against any laws to use flechettes, the USMC still used them when I was in, I worked on Huey’s and Cobra’s. We still had flechette warheads for our 2.75” rockets, and we’d load and use them, at times in Iraq and Afghanistan, I got out in 2010. Granted we usually ran the HE, or the bigger, 17lb HE warheads and night time one pod of illumination rockets per flight. They were also coated in anti coagulant, to be extra nasty.
THAT IS THE BEST MOST OUTRAGEOUS PIECE OF MILATRY EQUIPMENT I'VE EVER HERD ITS FUCKING GENIUS WHY WHERE NOT MORE MADE AND WHY ARE NOT THESE DAYS WARS WOULD BE OVER A LOT QUICKER.
The Swedes have, or had a number of weapons named the Carl Gustav, including anti-tank weapons, recoilless rifles, and battle rifles. They just like the name!
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I laugh my ass off so that I risk waking my wife up, but I am so damned glad she is wide awake, watching this with your faces and laughing bust-ups are a true double whammy !, LOL
In seriousness, if you have to get out to reload then you’re making the crews life very short! You can always get another tank but getting another crew takes a bit of time!
US doctrine is pretty much there is no such thing as overkill.... you want to terminate the enemy as fast as possible so you can go home soonest for ice cream. :)
Stupid question alert! Title of the fat electricians video, "BAZOOKA TANK - M50 Ontos " the first question on seeing a picture of it, "What is that? Oh dear............!
Why would you fire six at once I’m infantry and the answer is you can 😂 fyi the flaw is you run out of rounds😢 sad but true you can only carry so much and when it’s gone it’s gone 😢and some one as to go get more
"why would you fire all 6 at once?" MERICA! 😂😂😂
"Why would you fire all six at once?" Because sometimes 5 isn't enough.
"Because we don't have 7."
God's tank probably has 7
This! They *knew* the moment they handed it to the grunts *someone* would try it and they needed to know what kind of damage control would be necessary 😂
@@AriRashkae Skill challenge you have to see if you can aim all 6
Because sometimes you just need to get that point across the first time
M-50 Ontos "the Thing". First time use, in military history, of the control -alt-delete buttons
As a Marine, all 6 at once? WHY The fuck not....
The beehive rounds were permissible under the Geneva Convention because the flechettes were not medically difficult to detect in any way, nor were they a delivery mechanism for poisons or contagious diseases.
Flechette rounds were the way to convert a heavy vehicle mounted cannon (or recoilless rifle) into a direct-fire area-of-affect anti-personnel weapon. Against targets behind soft cover, such as wooden walls, hedges, bushes and metal less than an inch or so thick, it would be devastatingly effective, but thicker armor, stone walls, thicker log construction or thicker dirt walls (more than 6 or so inches thick), its effectiveness drops off rapidly. Against the heavier armor, they'd just drop in regular explosive or armor-piercing high explosive rounds to get the job done.
They should never have given these up, it's a truly terrifying weapon only the Marines can truly appreciate.
Bring it back and call it the Mattis, it's the kind of thing that keeps other people awake.
Farmers- We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two... wait, wrong farmers
Hahahahaha love that!
No..... no im fairly certain its the same ones
😂😂Oh So Perfect😂😂
During this years July 4th celebration while working one of the grills at the American Legion food stand I had time to sit down with an army Vietnam vet. I asked him if he had any experience with the Ontos. He smiled and said that's a marine thing, but they were beautiful to have close by. Didn't try to hide them because the NVA and Cong knew what it was capable of. A pure example of what happens when you put two groups together that know how to improvise. A farm example of needing something for a task so if we're going to build it lets REALLY build it.
With that much fire power I must say what another said about the Ontos. "You can NEVER have too much Dakka."
The best part about the ontos is that because it had 6 separate barrels they could have multiple different combinations of ammunition types loaded at any given time. For example they could have 2 AT rounds, 1 HE round, 1HEAT round, and 2 Beehive rounds allowing them to engage and destroy pretty much anything they could possibly come up against.
“What is that”
A whole lot of f around and find out
14:31 remember...it's never a war crime the first time.
Came down in the comments to say this. Both glad it was already said and disappointed I wasn't the one to get to say it.
"The Marines of agriculture" is the best description of farmers I have ever heard.
@@hyperthermogenic well yeah lost of us come from there, or go to/return to that life after our service, yours truly included, grew up farming and dairy farms, now work for a company that installs equipment on dairy farms, along with maintaining them. We come from there, know it, love and are good at stuff like that, and just getting the job done, that goes for most of the US military most of us come from the country and rural areas, we are the farmers, or their kids. -‘d more than likely they were military and served in all the wars we fought. One or more. Which is a stupidly large list. Way higher than the popular ones. Or unpopular ones, take that tiny list, multiply by 100, that’s closer to reality, lol. Farmers and grunts/marines overlap so well, cause we all come from the same stock, farmers are the most chill and “normal” grunts, like army are the most second “normal” then, then you have us…US Marines, we are broken and glorious but people who know us personally worry about our sanity, legitimately, don’t worry we are good country folk. But dont screw with us/cross us, we do crazy shit like this, cause it’s fun, and funny. No matter how messed up similar things are, we will always choose/make the most horrendous things and do terrible things in the name of freedom .for any modern shit, hell diver’s 2 is meme to the USMC. We take that lightly and as a joke. That should say everything. Or at least me an buddies would. Of it came out in 09-2010 at the latest.
@@Plastikdoom I am probably quite a bit older than you might expect here. My uncle served 2 tours in, Vietnam. He told me once his Marine buddies called him, "The worm" because when the bullets started flying he was not just in the mud he was under it. That was one of the very few things he ever told me about his time over there. I had planed to follow in his footsteps, so-to-speak, and join the Core after high school but a bad car wreck back in 1987 changed the rest of my life when I was 15. I died twice and am disabled now because of the crash. My uncle was one of the toughest S.O.B's You would ever want to meet but had a huge heart. He was one of my heroes growing up. He and my father and other uncle all worked on farms both here in rural, Michigan and out in, Washington state, where we had other family, as did I for a time so I am familiar and agree with all of that. Being the old fart that I have now become somehow I'm less familiar with, but at least know what they are, when you mention, Hell Divers 2 and memes. But I do know, Farmers, Marines and how to get shit done what ever that may be. Thank you for your service both in the Core and on the farm, Marine.
You have to test all 6 at once in case you run into The Final Boss. Obviously.
It's not a war crime the first time 😅😅😅
FYI ‘The Thing’ wasn’t even really a nickname as Ontos is Greek for Thing.
Soldier: I have an enemy tank in my sights.
Tanker. I have an enemy soldier in my 12 sights.
you forgot the 30 caliber machine gun, so 13 sights.
Yes this was an amazing one! 🎉🎉🎉
You have heard of PIMP MY RIDE .now we have ..BAZOOKA MY TANK
Flechettes are not banned, per se, and neither are canister rounds (“grapeshot” type AP rounds). Specific uses of flechettes are banned but the law is generally considered weak and many different modern weapons not named in the Geneva rules can generate that sort of outcome.
Hej, love your reactions to mr. Fat Electrician, keep up and stay positive
They also made 12 Guage shotgun flachette rounds.
With those Flechette rounds it should be called The Needler! 😂 Thank you!
Hahaha omg so true!
@@WreckedNation01 👍🤟🖖😎
Power Shredder
@@ninjabearpress2574 Power Stapler! 😎💙
NATO STEPS IN: Did you blow all those guys to bits with 6 bazooka rounds??
AMERICA: First of all, their recoilless rifles. Secondly, we did give them warnings in 50 cal tracer format.
Darn, it almost sounds Canadian that way
🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Best response to "Why would you fire all of them at once?"
Ask one, he'll just say, "I'm a Marine."
Why wouldn't you?
Seems like it would be really good as an anti-drone platform, especially anti-drone swarm
It's "anti-everything that way that's not hard enough" so yeah, effectively. However, you're loosing a lot of precision that way. If drone swarms are a dense enough target, I can see beehive rounds getting used, but I expect enemies would adjust quickly, especially if they're letting AI control the swarm logic.
4:58 This is a legitimate method that is still used today, particularly in a bunch of European tank designs (the British Challenger is one of the biggest examples of this). Even the Abrams can use this method, but its targeting computer is its primary means of aiming its cannon while using tracer rounds like this is the backup means.
Another great content . SMASHED IT . Daniel and Nick "LEGENDARY " Colin UK 🇬🇧
Did we clear this with Genva??
As Nick has said numerous times. "It's not a war crime the first time"
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I love watching your reaction. Soo funny. Subscribing now.
11:08 I was like oh boy, just wait🤣
Yeah I'd run to if I saw that thing coming lol great reaction sir, always love his content nick knows how to tell a story.
You really need to watch his video on the bat bomb. You will laugh your bum off.
Yes! The bat bomb is awesome!
Some of the best interviews from Vietnam were NVA soldiers who were unfortunate enough to be Hue during TET when Marines from Phu Bai showed up with these damn things.
Their descriptions of being behind 20 foot deep walls while having this thing fired at them is hysterical.
Grew up on a farm in the '60s and '70s. One fall day you see a hog hanging from a tree limb when you get home from school. Next week it's a John Deere Tractor motor, then, in Dec and Jan it'll be deer. I used to get my Mom one of those "camo" deer for Mother's Day. Say "Wild Milk Fed Veal". One you can put an entire ham in a Gallon Freezer bag.
And no, it’s not against any laws to use flechettes, the USMC still used them when I was in, I worked on Huey’s and Cobra’s. We still had flechette warheads for our 2.75” rockets, and we’d load and use them, at times in Iraq and Afghanistan, I got out in 2010. Granted we usually ran the HE, or the bigger, 17lb HE warheads and night time one pod of illumination rockets per flight. They were also coated in anti coagulant, to be extra nasty.
We still need these. Wonderful toys
love these reactions
THAT IS THE BEST MOST OUTRAGEOUS PIECE OF MILATRY EQUIPMENT I'VE EVER HERD ITS FUCKING GENIUS WHY WHERE NOT MORE MADE AND WHY ARE NOT THESE DAYS WARS WOULD BE OVER A LOT QUICKER.
I made a plastic model of this when I was about 16 or 17 ...... Loooong time ago (73 now) I think Revel was the company that sold it...
EtS21: "Why would you fire all six at once?!"
Me: "More dakka."
Why all 6 at once? To upgrade "over there" to "way over there"
The Carl Gustav is technically considered a recoilless rifle, to give you an idea
The Swedes have, or had a number of weapons named the Carl Gustav, including anti-tank weapons, recoilless rifles, and battle rifles. They just like the name!
@@OriginalLictre yup, but a veteran would most likely know the one that's the Ranger's favorite toy lol
That thing could lay down some series suppressing fire
The greatest FAFO project of all time.
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Its about a polish hero during ww2 : beware story is heavy
/ with love
Why would you fire all 6 at once? Because you have six and 'Merica.
You gotta test it. You don't know till you know.
6 Recoilless Rifles per M-50...
Those are the weapons that Sgt. Reckless resupplied in the Korean War.
I'm waiting for you to check out the Grumman LLV video from TFE.
I laugh my ass off so that I risk waking my wife up, but I am so damned glad she is wide awake, watching this with your faces and laughing bust-ups are a true double whammy !, LOL
Just imagine if Marines brought a dozen BAZOOKA TANKS to Afghanistan!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤪🤪🤪🤣🤣
Sounds like Myth Busters (original guys, were involved!
"Point, click, delete"
First.... Great Video
Cheers thanks for watching
they are so lucky Grandpa was retired pre-bazuka charriot
Shoulda called it the Stapler
In seriousness, if you have to get out to reload then you’re making the crews life very short! You can always get another tank but getting another crew takes a bit of time!
Why would you fire all of them at once?
Silly question... to see what would happen, of course.
9:38 that should be USA motto "been fucking shot at since 1775"
US doctrine is pretty much there is no such thing as overkill.... you want to terminate the enemy as fast as possible so you can go home soonest for ice cream. :)
Crowd control. All 6 at once is crowd control
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This country shines when we let adult 12-year olds be in charge of machines and explosives.
Stupid question alert! Title of the fat electricians video, "BAZOOKA TANK - M50 Ontos " the first question on seeing a picture of it, "What is that? Oh dear............!
Ridiculous maybe but I would not like to be on the receiving end of this Frankenstein thing
Just Look at the Farmers in Ukraine 🇺🇦. They keep Nicking Russian tanks with Tractor 🚜
The Ukrainian farmers have been the largest army(in terms of armor) in Ukraine for the last 2 years 🤣🤣
Pronoun it's over here oh no its over there
I like the sound of Reckless Tanks. I'm mean let's get a little Reckless when the trees start talking.
Why would you fire six at once I’m infantry and the answer is you can 😂 fyi the flaw is you run out of rounds😢 sad but true you can only carry so much and when it’s gone it’s gone 😢and some one as to go get more