Chuck Todd ! Even his name sounds like a moron. Doubt if Chomsky , Hedges would bother going on these shows anyway. Questions just way , way too simple and weighted in the tv stations ad peoples interests. So unless Noam can fit Ben&Jerry's salted caramel ice cream into his speech while he bemoaned the social situation in small town America , you've got no chance. Belittle money and you nulify these corporate , power mad , individuals. Who crave ALL the money. Which is weird and greedy and should of been dealt with in infancy.
"The most effective form of censorship is to allow a very narrow range of topics in the public discourse, but to allow very lively debate within this range". I'm paraphrasing, but this is a Chomsky quote which is pretty apt for this.
MillionthUsername No he´s not. He is a well educated, erudite, and honest. Many, such as yourself, would do well to take him seriously, and if you have disagreement address the issues. Throwing out such unfounded accusations without any back up is the hight of dishonesty.
KbcBerlin For people who support or cannot bear to examine the things he speaks out against (basically the abuse of power by great powers) calling him a liar or a self hating jew or some other such nonsense has been their only retort . How is it that someone who is considered one of the great intellectuals of the 20th - 21st century on linguistic and political thought and structure is never brought on CNN or ABC or any of the mainstream media when there is some big events happening to give his opinion , never . Why is that , because he speaks TRUTH to power and that can't be allowed . Sheep need to be kept in the pen . People who call Chomsky a liar are sheep or liars , either unknowingly (sheep) or knowingly.
Eddie Bernays i dont discount your main point about chomsky, that he makes obvious remarks about the ills of american capitalism - im sure chomsky himself might agree with this. not sure about your corn maze analogy, i have been to Laos and saw the devastation wrought on the population and mountains there by US bombs, which was confirmed by locals themselves.
7kurisu I don't doubt that bombs were dropped there. but Chomskys 'comments can be found here www.democracynow.org/blog/2013/5/23/video_jeremy_scahill_noam_chomsky_on_secret_us_dirty_wars_from_laos_to_yemen_to_pakistan. The bit Im referring to starts when He is first given the mike, through till about 3: 00 He recounts how Fred Branfman told him that a 'high offical' had told HIM that the reason why the US was bombing the bejesus out of Northern Laos, by Chomskys estimate a ''peasant society at best' was that the US was currently (at that time) in a cessation of bombing Vietnam, was that 'we had all these planes and nothing to do with them, so we will bomb Laos'.... Chomsky concludes this anecdote by saying that 'OK, I think that’s the lesson of history that we should bare in mind in reading Jeremy’s exposures'. Thats IT ! That this passes for intellectual rigour in either estimating the causation back then, or in the recounting of this today to lend credence to Scahills personal beliefs that the US invades for no other reason than it can, is typical of the misplaced reverence that people Chomsky. I have no doubt that underhanded things happen in all wars, but as an alleged polymath, and '...one of the great intellectuals of the 20th - 21st century on linguistic and political thought and structure..; no less, his contributions here are not even amateur, they are fire side chats with two disaffected uncles whinging about 'whats wrong with the world' and relying on nothing more than personal axes to grind an OTHER PEOPLES hearsay.
Don't forget the forced labor in the prison industrial complex. Also, if you're in a low enough class, the forms of oppression at work are subtler than China's but still as atrocious.
And yet knowing they are slaves they create more beings that are doomed to slavery. Shows how selfish and cruel humans are by nature, almost all of us. Or at least living mostly driven by unconscious need. How could this ever change? It's always been this way. I know one sure way. Antinatalism but that has maybe one chance in 8 billion. Not very good odds.
We are not this body, this mind, these thoughts, nor these emotions, not this intellect, this ego, nor these conditionings (super ego ) but we are the 'Pure' Spirit, but it is this also, that we must also, become...'becoming' IS the Point! Self realisation is the STARTING Point, of reality! To realise the Self, is to become the Self, our true Self ; the Spirit! Which ALL the Scriptures have said this samething! Sahaja yoga is different from other yogas, because it STARTS with Self realisation, instead of that being an unobtainable goal, of 's false practice /ritual! Btw Sahaja yoga is NEVER ritualistic, but is a protocol. ..to achieving our Second birth! And is always FREE! Because Self realisation is a birth right, besides it's a 'Living' process...how do you pay a seed, to sprout? Search 'Shree Mataji public programmes' please may you watch the whole talk ...but at the end of most of these talks, the holy Mother gives self realisation (as an 'Actulisation' and not as an nonsensical falsehood!) "Know thy Self!" The time has come that God, can be PROVEN...on our Central nervous system!
Excellent point, - he asks a question and then actually listens instead of interrupting. Morons like Tucker Carlson (most of FOX,'s people, in fact) could learn a lot from interviewers like Hedges.
This interview is so informative and the 15-20 books I could make out on Noam Chomsky's book shelf will be enough to keep me busy for awhile. Thanks WD!!!
listening to these.two democratic titans I can't help feeling hopeless, insofar as their respective analysis of the absolute and insidious dominance of corporate power seems to overshadow by far both Noam's (I think nostalgic) belief in the potential of workers to assume ownership and Chris's (more cynical) call for revolution... I would like to say, however, at the risk of pissing some of my fellow commentators off, that I think it does no good to fetishize how smart these and other people like them are -- that just distances you from what they are recommending you do! -- rather I suggest lauding their character and responding (in every sense of the word) to their formidable insights and commitment.
Chomsky goes against that somewhat in his saying that we actually have a pretty good amount of freedom in this society and the control of state actors is fragile.
madelefant05 yes that's true and therein lies hope -- however he doesn't really get into how to 'resist' the propaganda machine or other tools of corporate and liberal-elite power, like surveillance, which he and hedges understand so well; and so his notion of democratic freedom and power being readily available if only people would reach out and take it comes off imo as a bit (academically) theoretical and romantic.
I think its an incorrect paraphrase to assert that Noam believes the potential of workers to assume ownership. I think its more that the population itself should control the outcomes relating to their own lives and futures.
youcreatea i will listen again but i'm fairly certain Noam states this explicitly. also, not sure what you mean by "the population itself should control the outcomes relating to their own lives and futures" do you mean through conventional political participation?
I've recently seen a number of you tube videos with Chomsky, and It's astonishing the amount of knowledge he has. His brain is like the encyclopedia brittanica. He's the Einstein of political intellectualism. Chris Hedges is no slouch either.
F. Yo. Couch IV true my friend Walter Lipman wrote that the masses are the bewildered herd and easy to control and he also said we must remember they always have the power......but what are they interested in the x factor sometimes my brain hurts...
Yes slavery is natural. Most of humanity is superstitious and ignorant and easily controlled. And all they really have power over is there ability to create other ignorant humans and so they do it without thought and with abandon. No hope.
If only.....I would be permitted to express an opinion or thought without being talked over, or interrupted. ..Just like these gentlemen. ..ah joy oh bliss😊....Unfortunately my family is half Italian and half Ukrainian. There's not a hope in hell of getting a word in edgewise😠
+teeswatertom We are experiencing the re-ghettoization of "White" America. And our country is being flooded with cheep crap made abroad as never before.
+Allison Hunt You are directing your comments to the wrong person . You need to directed your thoughts to Mr Chomsky . If you are going to call him out on what he said at least talk to him not me .
I know as much as anyone . That is nothing but what others tell me . Every one of them feel they have all the truth . I know from a lifetime of experiences that today's truth is tomorrows lie . There is one sides truth and there is the other sides truth and some where in the middle it the real truth.
God ... My brain has been so warped by the ESPN..ing of news, I can barely follow the interview My attention span: "WHY ARENT THEY YELLING AT EACH OTHER?!"
@25.30 a wonderful, factual and demonstratable point is made. I like Noam but what is his "call to action"?. Well, it's "try this and see." The super/hyper wealthy who now are allowed to fund candidates with any financial restraint per the Citizens United decision (possibly the worst decision ever by the Supreme Court. The second being the ridiulous Hobby Lobby decision.) will hold the candidates they have funded in perpetuity as the super wealthy can fund a candidiate simply with the money that falls out of their wallet. The super/hyper wealthy simply say "If you enjoyed being a senator, then do what I want and I will finance you again....and again....and again...." It is an open secret to know which candidate is receiving enormous dark money from which hyper rich supporter. Only a revolution will overtun this. NOT sitting in chairs and speaking about the enormous class and monetary differneces between the fantastically wealthy and the desperately poor. What we have now is not justice. It is not humane. It IS UNAmerican.
My discovery of Chomsky and the following explosion of the illusion of American Exceptionalism and morality reminds me of when it started dawning on me that religion and god was bullshit. Btw, Chomsky's ability for recall, including quoting almost verbatim entire paragraphs at times, the date of publication, as well the historical context of the text he cites is just astounding. His memory seems almost eidetic in nature.
I use to think it was a few evil pricks who were gaming the system; and manipulating the levers of power; an entrenched elite class who viewed the unwashed masses as poker chips; to be played and to cover externalities. Now I am leaning towards the notion of Emergent Systems (as in nature; the feedback between individual elements of a natural system give rise to an ordered behavior); where the evil is inherent in the system itself;(surely we can come up with something more creative than the 19th century dichotomy of Marxist vs. Capitalist) . While I still think there is an entrenched , power elite; I think they are the progeny of the system ; and replacing them without changing the paradigm; inevitably we will find ourselves back in the same crucible; in an ever repeating cycle; like the definition of insanity; doing the same thing over and over again; and expecting a different result.
@@johnmiller7453 "Self realisation" IS the STARTING POINT...of reality! Its only.... Sahaja yoga/ spontaneous Union That can save us from all this negatively! Sahaja yoga is different from other yogas ...because it STARTS with Self realisation. ..instead of that being an unobtainable goal, of a false practice/ritual! Btw Sahaja yoga is NEVER ritualistic, but is a protocol to achieving our second birth! Where we become 'Collectively Conscious' th-cam.com/video/Vkr3cvAbCVU/w-d-xo.html
The Redcar Steel plant in the UK has just announced closure. If occupy and crowd funding got together with the workers, who are now redundant, would it be possible to get the plant taken into the hands of the producers?
Elaine Walters It could become a worker-owned collective, yes. There is funding available for co-ops, and the workers could collectively invest the remainder of the money. Crowdsourced capital.
I'm always in awe of the sheer breadth of Chomskys knowledge. It's like he knows the goings on of the entire world dating back over a century. His recall of facts and figures is astounding. He is an absolute treasure intellectually and progressively to the left and to the entire world. It's great to know that he at least gets the recognition he deserves abroad, if not in his home country. I hope one day he will gain that domestic recognition, even if its posthumously.
Well in terms of what violence can be inflicted by omnipotent police forces against who... Chris hedges nailed it and Chomsky missed it... Not saying that Chomsky missed everything but he missed that
Capitalism is not the problem in the world ( although it will always require a government to monitor it). Fractional reserve banking is. It forces a constant economic growth to be maintained which in turn affects everything adversely including the environment. We have to let the banking system fail/crash. ie; No Bailouts! Like Iceland did.
This is why you never see Chomsky in the media: Hedges: "...what's the new paradigm for resistance? How do we learn from the old and confront the new? Chomsky 02:09 "The people driven into the system regarded it as an attack on their personal dignity..." 04:15 "...enormous movement of farmers who wanted to free themselves from..." 06:30 "...the British were desperate to get the Americans into the war with a pacifist population, Woodrow Wilson won the 1916 election..." 08:27 "...free from the roar and the trampling of the bewildered herd, the ignorant and meddlesome outsiders..." 11:02 "...out of that comes the huge public relations industry, massive industry dedicated to this, indecently it's also dedicated to undermining markets..." 12:51 "...so if you've gone to all the good schools you have instilled into you the understanding..." 14:38 "...at one point the US Southern Command which ran..was overseer of these actions gave instructions to the terrorist force..." 16:15 "...we have to compare the blood and misery poured in with the success of the outcome in producing democracy..." Concluded at 17:36 without even addressing the question. Hedges tries to redirect him, asking him what workers can do *today* to regain control of production since all our manufacturing has been exported overseas and he launches into a tirade about fracking and damage to the environment. When he attempts to give examples of workers taking control of industry, his example is of a failed attempt of workers to own a coal mine, then talks about Walmart workers organizing but not taking ownership of the company. He then tries to make the case that if government develops a technology, all future improvements should then be owned by the government (WTF??). This guy has no new ideas but simply mines old territory that's not relevant to our current challenges.
No, sorry, this isn't the reason we don't see him 'in the media'. Countless others, not least of all our politicians, are far more guilty of question evasion, and with Chomsky, if he evades a question he at least says something substantive in its place. The failure of the initiatives you mention is not proof that these are not the right approaches. Rather they just didn't go far enough or gather enough broad-based, active support. We often think that the only ideas that will work are the ones that are the newest - but this is a fallacy born out of economic mythology from the industrial revolution to silicon valley.
***** I seek to know if our industrial civilization has collapsed. Chomsky tells us of attempts to prevent what has spread within our government and laws. Any lessons from the past have great value to we who brace for impact. Your musical video collection shows bewilderment and angst, the condition Chomsky points out in our family and culture today.
Well the fact he "evades" is just to give enough conext about how things used to be and the challenges it faced over time. I think it is very useful in reflection to today's status quo. One other thing you should know about Chmosky is that he always avoids prescribing fast-track easy solutions to problems of such magnitude because there are rarely clear-cut solutions to ethical problems and the media always poses stupid questions like that to their interviewees hoping for a response that reinforces their agenda behind the question. Ordinary people only deal with absolutes and that's why just get lost when an honest intellectual takes a cautious stance and rather than dishing out quick fixes he
A word about Occupy from someone who was there... This was an employed and unemployed, young profession class that was protesting real issues of the day.. They were protesting banking and government malfeasance working in tandem with the corporate media. It did not take them long to realize that the police were working with the NSA government intelligence apparatus and it had the power to ruin lives from behind the scenes.. Knowing this, Occupy dissolved.
except there is little that cannot be done by robots that is now done by the mass of wage slaves. Experts, and technology agree, less than 20 years half the jobs we have now are done by robots. These jobs will not be replaced by new jobs. so called capitalism doesn't work under this condition. Obviously. So now you understand why the rich build a police state around fascism. In fascism, your needs, or a job for your needs, is irrelevant. Eh you useless eater.
And why should we limit the technology which can free us from the slavery of pointless jobs, and free us for real humanistic endeavors like education and exploration and whatever else we want to do. Just to keep inequality which is ruining our planet.. pretty stupid to do that huh.. .hbr.org/2014/12/what-happens-to-society-when-robots-replace-workers
Wow, this is the metaphorical "passing of the torch" Chris from one generation to the other. Both of you of my intellectual heroes. Wade Goodwin, The FAIR Digest, Cape Town, South Africa
I disagree with Chomsky about the use of force. The drones, the ones that fly, the ones that walk will be used to apply as much force as they want, no chance of some soldiers or policeman rebelling against the powerful.
He means that privileged members of society aren't, and cannot be, subjected to state violence because of the power that they hold. This is not true of marginalized members of society, who are effectively powerless.
From Thoreau, to Du Bois, to Chomsky and now you Chris. The new torch bearer of the American dissident intellectual class. Wade Goodwin, The FAIR Digest, Cape Town, South Africa
"I hate this fast growing tendency to chain men to machines in big factories and deprive them of all joy in their efforts - the plan will lead to cheap men and cheap products." Richard Wagner (1813 - 1883)
i cant help being overwhelmed by sadness...listening to these 2 giants and seeing our life being hijacked by petty thugs, mindless entertainment and vulgar propaganda. Noam and Chris should be our standard core not the exception
Does anyone know where I might gain access to history texts about the mid to late 19th century labour movements and such things? That history is entirely unfamiliar to me!
A history of America in Ten Strikes by Erik Loomis is a good place to start surveying US labor history. American labor has always faced a more violent and forceful opposition from owners and state than many of our European counterparts. What's surprising to see today, is how vibrant and widespread the labor movement was. And how total and intentional it's destruction was. But I have hope, especially with our teachers and nurses in the current labor movement. People seem to be waking up again.
After listening to Noam Chomsky I am thinking of taking a clep test in US Polotics and History. Lol They are probably gonna fail me for speaking too much truth.
HELLO..... ANYBODY OUT THERE? WHAT IS STOPPING US FROM BRINGING THEM TO TRIAL????????????????? We have all the mechanisms in place, from Nuremberg. What is stopping us?
Knowing both of their works pretty well and having heard Chomsky say most of this many times throughout the last few decades it does kinda seem like it was a "I know this, you know this, we've both been saying it for most of our lives. But this is for the people who haven't had the opportunity or can't sit through talks" lol Solid stuff regardless. If Chomsky, Parenti, Hedges, and Varoufakis were household names we'd be living in a very different world and consistently moving in the right direction. ✊
The public trans issue, unions come next. Strike for higher pay, bus drivers earning 30 grand/yr. What's wrong with that? Many sectors want to follow suit. What's next? Librarians making 50g/yr? Legislation destroyed fraternity, now people think the sky will fall if government doesn't do everything. The people and the cronies are united in their distain for free markets. Hurray.
3:39 'craftsman vs a wage earner. Selling what you make vs selling yourself....which is deeply offensive.They condemned the New Spirt Of The Age " Gain wealth for getting (it ) all but loosing (one's ) self" Nowadays we've been taught to see ourselves as a part of a larger machine. We have a "newtonian parts mentality" so we're all just cogs in a wheel. Love The Naom. Wish I had more time. Brilliant.
Since our government is not doing its job to protect the public interests, they do not deserve to be paid. Why pay taxes without representation? If the system does not change, it is up to the public to force a change.... just stop paying them for services they did not render
A rare treat - two of my favourite public intellectuals. Both men I admire and respect for their courage, their willingness to speak the plain truth about the nature of Power and the dangerous historical moments we are all living through. Both are powerful advocates of revolt in an age where revolt is as unthinkable as its necessity is universal. Chris Hedges has a tremendous wisdom and exudes a muscular humanity combining moral authority with personable humility. He would have made a terrific minister - but making a much better revolutionary, is almost the personification of the ethical and moral force of mass insurgency. Chomsky on the other hand I love. As simple as that. He's like a grandfather figure now, and I have learned much from this tireless dissident over many years. Just goes to show, somewhat ironically perhaps - anarchists make, and always have made, great and timelessly inspirational leaders. from Durruti to Orwell and beyond. Chomsky and Hedges are in the end just part of a venerable tradition - one which shapes history. Remember History? It's up to us to make it happen.
i agree with much of what he says. but he does not take into consideration the participation in leadership/gov by people who do not have penises. humans with penises never seem to take humans with vaginas into consideration. to their detriment.
@ 39:55 Chomsky says how Japan offered the states a low interest loan to build high speed rail. Why would the US _need_ a loan from Japan? Secondly, why would a nation who's debt is around 200% GDP be actively loaning out money for another nations infrastructure. What an odd statement / situation...
Harry Harger Its true that Japans debt is close to 200% but it is also true that most of that debt is owe internally owe to their people. Japan sells their high tech internationally so they have lots of $. Those dollars are valuable and can be loaned to anyone who could used them and pay them back. Why the USA can not just print Dollars, they could but if they do they have to borrow them dollars anyways and more if the dollars are printed they still have to pay interest on them, because the US $ is the international currency it is not just the USA currency. So printing is monetizing the debt creating more dollars, the $ value will decrease faster then if the already existing dollars are borrow.
Most of the content of the interview is not new or surprising. Its power exceeds because these are two of the most credible people on the planet, at least that I know of.
a classic example of everything he talks about can be observed within the auspices of the TABC. as an example it serves as a near perfect microcosm of this sickening chokehold of the ruling elite. texas is the perfect example of how any "free state" can ultimately be taken out by the Rothschild cancer.
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Imagine if these were the types of conversations being had on Sunday talk shows instead of Chuck Todd and Meet The Right Wing Press.
Move over CNN Anderson Cooper ha ha ha ha....
God I fucking hate Chuck Todd.
Chuck Todd ! Even his name sounds like a moron. Doubt if Chomsky , Hedges would bother going on these shows anyway. Questions just way , way too simple and weighted in the tv stations ad peoples interests. So unless Noam can fit Ben&Jerry's salted caramel ice cream into his speech while he bemoaned the social situation in small town America , you've got no chance. Belittle money and you nulify these corporate , power mad , individuals. Who crave ALL the money. Which is weird and greedy and should of been dealt with in infancy.
Or the overbearing meritless lies of the leftist MSM manipulating the public toward liberal totalitarianism and fascist revolt.
"The most effective form of censorship is to allow a very narrow range of topics in the public discourse, but to allow very lively debate within this range". I'm paraphrasing, but this is a Chomsky quote which is pretty apt for this.
Its sad for us that figures like Chomsky or Hedges are so marginalized in our MSM , they truly are brilliant.
MillionthUsername
No he´s not. He is a well educated, erudite, and honest. Many, such as yourself, would do well to take him seriously, and if you have disagreement address the issues.
Throwing out such unfounded accusations without any back up is the hight of dishonesty.
KbcBerlin For people who support or cannot bear to examine the things he speaks out against (basically the abuse of power by great powers) calling him a liar or a self hating jew or some other such nonsense has been their only retort . How is it that someone who is considered one of the great intellectuals of the 20th - 21st century on linguistic and political thought and structure is never brought on CNN or ABC or any of the mainstream media when there is some big events happening to give his opinion , never . Why is that , because he speaks TRUTH to power and that can't be allowed . Sheep need to be kept in the pen . People who call Chomsky a liar are sheep or liars , either unknowingly (sheep) or knowingly.
Harbringe It is a rigged game.
Eddie Bernays i dont discount your main point about chomsky, that he makes obvious remarks about the ills of american capitalism - im sure chomsky himself might agree with this. not sure about your corn maze analogy, i have been to Laos and saw the devastation wrought on the population and mountains there by US bombs, which was confirmed by locals themselves.
7kurisu I don't doubt that bombs were dropped there. but Chomskys 'comments can be found here
www.democracynow.org/blog/2013/5/23/video_jeremy_scahill_noam_chomsky_on_secret_us_dirty_wars_from_laos_to_yemen_to_pakistan. The bit Im referring to starts when He is first given the mike, through till about 3: 00
He recounts how Fred Branfman told him that a 'high offical' had told HIM that the reason why the US was bombing the bejesus out of Northern Laos, by Chomskys estimate a ''peasant society at best' was that the US was currently (at that time) in a cessation of bombing Vietnam, was that 'we had all these planes and nothing to do with them, so we will bomb Laos'.... Chomsky concludes this anecdote by saying that 'OK, I think that’s the lesson of history that we should bare in mind in reading Jeremy’s exposures'. Thats IT !
That this passes for intellectual rigour in either estimating the causation back then, or in the recounting of this today to lend credence to Scahills personal beliefs that the US invades for no other reason than it can, is typical of the misplaced reverence that people Chomsky. I have no doubt that underhanded things happen in all wars, but as an alleged polymath, and '...one of the great intellectuals of the 20th - 21st century on linguistic and political thought and structure..; no less, his contributions here are not even amateur, they are fire side chats with two disaffected uncles whinging about 'whats wrong with the world' and relying on nothing more than personal axes to grind an OTHER PEOPLES hearsay.
One of, if not the best interview of Chomsky....by another intellectual no less. Very informative.
brains are really something, money is what many prefer, me, i like wolin, cornel west, , Chomsky, hedges and others
Noam Chomsky has not been invited on the corporate media since the 70s. We are a country in decay.
00:00 - 07:30 / Class struggle, US History
07:30 - 14:00 / Manufacturing consent
15:00 - 31:30 / Class struggle today in the US
31:30 - 35:00 / Propaganda
35:00 - 37:00 / Occupy
50:00 / Climate Change
bless you sir
"The only difference between working for a wage and being a slave is that working for a wage is supposedly temporary."
Don't forget the forced labor in the prison industrial complex. Also, if you're in a low enough class, the forms of oppression at work are subtler than China's but still as atrocious.
And yet knowing they are slaves they create more beings that are doomed to slavery. Shows how selfish and cruel humans are by nature, almost all of us. Or at least living mostly driven by unconscious need. How could this ever change? It's always been this way. I know one sure way. Antinatalism but that has maybe one chance in 8 billion. Not very good odds.
We are not this body, this mind, these thoughts, nor these emotions, not this intellect, this ego, nor these conditionings (super ego ) but we are the 'Pure' Spirit, but it is this also, that we must also, become...'becoming' IS the Point!
Self realisation is the STARTING Point, of reality!
To realise the Self, is to become the Self, our true Self ; the Spirit!
Which ALL the Scriptures have said this samething!
Sahaja yoga is different from other yogas, because it STARTS with Self realisation, instead of that being an unobtainable goal, of 's false practice /ritual!
Btw Sahaja yoga is NEVER ritualistic, but is a protocol. ..to achieving our Second birth!
And is always FREE! Because Self realisation is a birth right, besides it's a 'Living' process...how do you pay a seed, to sprout?
Search 'Shree Mataji public programmes' please may you watch the whole talk ...but at the end of most of these talks, the holy Mother gives self realisation (as an 'Actulisation' and not as an nonsensical falsehood!)
"Know thy Self!"
The time has come that God, can be PROVEN...on our Central nervous system!
@@peterstone9316 Shut the fuck up moron
Profound..
A lesson in listening by Chris Hedges - he understands that his guest needs no goading or prodding. Thanks
Excellent point, - he asks a question and then actually listens instead of interrupting. Morons like Tucker Carlson (most of FOX,'s people, in fact) could learn a lot from interviewers like Hedges.
You can tell he genuinely wants to listen to his insights. Great to see in an interview
Noam Chomsky is a national treasure.
How true. God Bless the man and his intelligent influence on others
Brazil disagrees. He is a world treasure.
This interview is so informative and the 15-20 books I could make out on Noam Chomsky's book shelf will be enough to keep me busy for awhile. Thanks WD!!!
brian hibbs I know !!!! See a few I have owned or read. I would love to have the list. These two are people we should hold dear while we have them.
listening to these.two democratic titans I can't help feeling hopeless, insofar as their respective analysis of the absolute and insidious dominance of corporate power seems to overshadow by far both Noam's (I think nostalgic) belief in the potential of workers to assume ownership and Chris's (more cynical) call for revolution... I would like to say, however, at the risk of pissing some of my fellow commentators off, that I think it does no good to fetishize how smart these and other people like them are -- that just distances you from what they are recommending you do! -- rather I suggest lauding their character and responding (in every sense of the word) to their formidable insights and commitment.
Chomsky goes against that somewhat in his saying that we actually have a pretty good amount of freedom in this society and the control of state actors is fragile.
madelefant05
yes that's true and therein lies hope -- however he doesn't really get into how to 'resist' the propaganda machine or other tools of corporate and liberal-elite power, like surveillance, which he and hedges understand so well; and so his notion of democratic freedom and power being readily available if only people would reach out and take it comes off imo as a bit (academically) theoretical and romantic.
I think its an incorrect paraphrase to assert that Noam believes the potential of workers to assume ownership. I think its more that the population itself should control the outcomes relating to their own lives and futures.
youcreatea i will listen again but i'm fairly certain Noam states this explicitly. also, not sure what you mean by "the population itself should control the outcomes relating to their own lives and futures" do you mean through conventional political participation?
I am talking more about my impression of what Noam believes having listened to a vast quantity of his talks. He probably did explicitly say that lol.
I've recently seen a number of you tube videos with Chomsky, and It's astonishing the amount of knowledge he has. His brain is like the encyclopedia brittanica.
He's the Einstein of political intellectualism.
Chris Hedges is no slouch either.
OMG! The author of The Empire of Illusion and Noam? AWESOME.
Wonderful to see Hedges and Chomsky together. Frightening to hear what they say though.
I could listen to these two go back and forth all day. Fascinating.
Nothing like watching one great mind interview another.
Both these men are very very smart. Easy to understand and very clear thoughts
Thanks for posting this video
Sad that in nine months, such a video could only have 48,000 views.
Troy Parfitt ppl are dumb and distracted by
the BS the media puts out...id much rather watch this than the Kardashians.......
F. Yo. Couch IV true my friend Walter Lipman wrote that the masses are the bewildered herd and easy to control and he also said we must remember they always have the power......but what are they interested in the x factor sometimes my brain hurts...
Troy Parfitt x factor 300 million plus...one huge problem...
Troy Parfitt That's because people too distracted by Kim Kardashian's rear-end :).
Yes slavery is natural. Most of humanity is superstitious and ignorant and easily controlled. And all they really have power over is there ability to create other ignorant humans and so they do it without thought and with abandon. No hope.
If only.....I would be permitted to express an opinion or thought without being talked over, or interrupted. ..Just like these gentlemen. ..ah joy oh bliss😊....Unfortunately my family is half Italian and half Ukrainian. There's not a hope in hell of getting a word in edgewise😠
My Chomsky tells it like it is ! It is not what the majority believes it is,because it is the truth!
+teeswatertom We are experiencing the re-ghettoization of "White" America. And our country is being flooded with cheep crap made abroad as never before.
+Allison Hunt You are directing your comments to the wrong person . You need to directed your thoughts to Mr Chomsky . If you are going to call him out on what he said at least talk to him not me .
Opinions are like elbows we all have two of them !
I know as much as anyone . That is nothing but what others tell me . Every one of them feel they have all the truth . I know from a lifetime of experiences that today's truth is tomorrows lie . There is one sides truth and there is the other sides truth and some where in the middle it the real truth.
Believe whatever you want . So will I . Many will agree with you and many will not. Deal with that truth . You see that is also the way it is .
I would love to peruse Chomsky's book collection.
A Skeptical Human I would love to own it. Wonder if he has a list ?
Robert Glenn San Socie You can write him an email. He often responds. I myself asked him something and he responded.
+Robert Glenn San Socie he does have a list actually i can send it to you
+Indani Josh thank you ! Please send it.
+Indani Josh send me the list too
By the end of this video, it stopped being an interview and started being a debate between the realistic Chomsky and the pessimistic Hedges
God ... My brain has been so warped by the ESPN..ing of news, I can barely follow the interview
My attention span: "WHY ARENT THEY YELLING AT EACH OTHER?!"
these guys are so articulate educated, intelligent and informed, listening to them is very interesting and nourishing.
Excellent interview, two of the best intellectuals of today in my opinion.
@25.30 a wonderful, factual and demonstratable point is made. I like Noam but what is his "call to action"?. Well, it's "try this and see." The super/hyper wealthy who now are allowed to fund candidates with any financial restraint per the Citizens United decision (possibly the worst decision ever by the Supreme Court. The second being the ridiulous Hobby Lobby decision.) will hold the candidates they have funded in perpetuity as the super wealthy can fund a candidiate simply with the money that falls out of their wallet. The super/hyper wealthy simply say "If you enjoyed being a senator, then do what I want and I will finance you again....and again....and again...." It is an open secret to know which candidate is receiving enormous dark money from which hyper rich supporter.
Only a revolution will overtun this. NOT sitting in chairs and speaking about the enormous class and monetary differneces between the fantastically wealthy and the desperately poor.
What we have now is not justice. It is not humane. It IS UNAmerican.
America has always been unAmerican.
My discovery of Chomsky and the following explosion of the illusion of American Exceptionalism and morality reminds me of when it started dawning on me that religion and god was bullshit. Btw, Chomsky's ability for recall, including quoting almost verbatim entire paragraphs at times, the date of publication, as well the historical context of the text he cites is just astounding. His memory seems almost eidetic in nature.
I use to think it was a few evil pricks who were gaming the system; and manipulating the levers of power; an entrenched elite class who viewed the unwashed masses as poker chips; to be played and to cover externalities. Now I am leaning towards the notion of Emergent Systems (as in nature; the feedback between individual elements of a natural system give rise to an ordered behavior); where the evil is inherent in the system itself;(surely we can come up with something more creative than the 19th century dichotomy of Marxist vs. Capitalist) . While I still think there is an entrenched , power elite; I think they are the progeny of the system ; and replacing them without changing the paradigm; inevitably we will find ourselves back in the same crucible; in an ever repeating cycle; like the definition of insanity; doing the same thing over and over again; and expecting a different result.
Edgar Morin bro.
right chris. In fact the only really hope for humanity to end suffering and the one thing they will never do is in total become antinatalists.
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"Self realisation" IS the STARTING POINT...of reality!
Its only....
Sahaja yoga/ spontaneous Union
That can save us from all this negatively!
Sahaja yoga is different from other yogas ...because it STARTS with Self realisation. ..instead of that being an unobtainable goal, of a false practice/ritual!
Btw Sahaja yoga is NEVER ritualistic, but is a protocol to achieving our second birth!
Where we become 'Collectively Conscious' th-cam.com/video/Vkr3cvAbCVU/w-d-xo.html
47:54 Even if you can't stand Chomsky or Hedges, please watch just this 5 minutes portion. It is the only hope spot in an otherwise bleak reality.
I'm so excited! These guys are some of my favorite writers!
The Redcar Steel plant in the UK has just announced closure. If occupy and crowd funding got together with the workers, who are now redundant, would it be possible to get the plant taken into the hands of the producers?
Elaine Walters It could become a worker-owned collective, yes. There is funding available for co-ops, and the workers could collectively invest the remainder of the money. Crowdsourced capital.
Civil disobediance worlwide is only a matter of time...
ha ha ha! That's a good one Julio
Chomsky is the people’s intellectual ♥️✌️
Two of my favourite Americans.
The economy is supposed to serve the people. Now the people serve the economy.
I'm always in awe of the sheer breadth of Chomskys knowledge. It's like he knows the goings on of the entire world dating back over a century. His recall of facts and figures is astounding. He is an absolute treasure intellectually and progressively to the left and to the entire world. It's great to know that he at least gets the recognition he deserves abroad, if not in his home country. I hope one day he will gain that domestic recognition, even if its posthumously.
So many things they're speaking about have changed in the 6yrs since this interview. Sheesh
Yeah, I have read so much over my lifetime, but its recall which seems to be my weakness.
Recall is the quiet engine of intelligence
Wow...cant believe I've never seen this before. My 2 favorite dissidents and activists and intellectuals and sjws.
I like this Interview by Chris Hedges with Noam Chomsky.
for thirty plus years he has been a been a beacon
Well in terms of what violence can be inflicted by omnipotent police forces against who... Chris hedges nailed it and Chomsky missed it... Not saying that Chomsky missed everything but he missed that
Capitalism is not the problem in the world ( although it will always require a government to monitor it). Fractional reserve banking is. It forces a constant economic growth to be maintained which in turn affects everything adversely including the environment. We have to let the banking system fail/crash. ie; No Bailouts! Like Iceland did.
Chomsky always says in elogent and intelligent words what we all deep down always knew.
We've got to get the money out of politics!
This is why you never see Chomsky in the media:
Hedges: "...what's the new paradigm for resistance? How do we learn from the old and confront the new?
Chomsky 02:09 "The people driven into the system regarded it as an attack on their personal dignity..."
04:15 "...enormous movement of farmers who wanted to free themselves from..."
06:30 "...the British were desperate to get the Americans into the war with a pacifist population, Woodrow Wilson won the 1916 election..."
08:27 "...free from the roar and the trampling of the bewildered herd, the ignorant and meddlesome outsiders..."
11:02 "...out of that comes the huge public relations industry, massive industry dedicated to this, indecently it's also dedicated to undermining markets..."
12:51 "...so if you've gone to all the good schools you have instilled into you the understanding..."
14:38 "...at one point the US Southern Command which ran..was overseer of these actions gave instructions to the terrorist force..."
16:15 "...we have to compare the blood and misery poured in with the success of the outcome in producing democracy..."
Concluded at 17:36 without even addressing the question. Hedges tries to redirect him, asking him what workers can do *today* to regain control of production since all our manufacturing has been exported overseas and he launches into a tirade about fracking and damage to the environment.
When he attempts to give examples of workers taking control of industry, his example is of a failed attempt of workers to own a coal mine, then talks about Walmart workers organizing but not taking ownership of the company. He then tries to make the case that if government develops a technology, all future improvements should then be owned by the government (WTF??).
This guy has no new ideas but simply mines old territory that's not relevant to our current challenges.
No, sorry, this isn't the reason we don't see him 'in the media'. Countless others, not least of all our politicians, are far more guilty of question evasion, and with Chomsky, if he evades a question he at least says something substantive in its place. The failure of the initiatives you mention is not proof that these are not the right approaches. Rather they just didn't go far enough or gather enough broad-based, active support. We often think that the only ideas that will work are the ones that are the newest - but this is a fallacy born out of economic mythology from the industrial revolution to silicon valley.
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I seek to know if our industrial civilization has collapsed. Chomsky tells us of attempts to prevent what has spread within our government and laws. Any lessons from the past have great value to we who brace for impact.
Your musical video collection shows bewilderment and angst, the condition Chomsky points out in our family and culture today.
Charlie Kay Cheyenne I always thought my musical tastes were pretty eclectic. I'm interested to know why you think they convey bewilderment and angst.
Well the fact he "evades" is just to give enough conext about how things used to be and the challenges it faced over time. I think it is very useful in reflection to today's status quo. One other thing you should know about Chmosky is that he always avoids prescribing fast-track easy solutions to problems of such magnitude because there are rarely clear-cut solutions to ethical problems and the media always poses stupid questions like that to their interviewees hoping for a response that reinforces their agenda behind the question. Ordinary people only deal with absolutes and that's why just get lost when an honest intellectual takes a cautious stance and rather than dishing out quick fixes he
Sarah Palin vs Noam Chomsky debate as Superbowl L ½ time show.
fab idea but the audience might find both unintelligible - for different reasons of course.
A word about Occupy from someone who was there...
This was an employed and unemployed, young profession class that was protesting real issues of the day..
They were protesting banking and government malfeasance working in tandem with the corporate media.
It did not take them long to realize that the police were working with the NSA government intelligence apparatus and it had the power to ruin lives from behind the scenes..
Knowing this, Occupy dissolved.
he ignores technological unemployment. Sure manufacturing is coming back, but the work is being done by robots.
then the unemployed should do what cannot be done by robots. Or produce, but don't mass produce
except there is little that cannot be done by robots that is now done by the mass of wage slaves.
Experts, and technology agree, less than 20 years half the jobs we have now are done by robots. These jobs will not be replaced by new jobs.
so called capitalism doesn't work under this condition. Obviously. So now you understand why the rich build a police state around fascism.
In fascism, your needs, or a job for your needs, is irrelevant. Eh you useless eater.
And why should we limit the technology which can free us from the slavery of pointless jobs, and free us for real humanistic endeavors like education and exploration and whatever else we want to do. Just to keep inequality which is ruining our planet..
pretty stupid to do that huh..
.hbr.org/2014/12/what-happens-to-society-when-robots-replace-workers
Wow, this is the metaphorical "passing of the torch" Chris from one generation to the other. Both of you of my intellectual heroes. Wade Goodwin, The FAIR Digest, Cape Town, South Africa
Manufacturing ineffectual dissent is the bottom line of talk, but it's better than silence and complicity.
I disagree with Chomsky about the use of force. The drones, the ones that fly, the ones that walk will be used to apply as much force as they want, no chance of some soldiers or policeman rebelling against the powerful.
He means that privileged members of society aren't, and cannot be, subjected to state violence because of the power that they hold. This is not true of marginalized members of society, who are effectively powerless.
Brilliant.. 2 of the only people I believe in the world
The books in the background tells you all you need to know
I wonder what Chomsky would look like if he was ever really pissed off or found something hilarious.
From Thoreau, to Du Bois, to Chomsky and now you Chris. The new torch bearer of the American dissident intellectual class. Wade Goodwin, The FAIR Digest, Cape Town, South Africa
I got a slight adrenaline rush when I saw the title. This can only be great.
Long live social communism and freedom
"I hate this fast growing tendency to chain men to machines in big factories and deprive them of all joy in their efforts - the plan will lead to cheap men and cheap products." Richard Wagner (1813 - 1883)
i cant help being overwhelmed by sadness...listening to these 2 giants and seeing our life being hijacked by petty thugs, mindless entertainment and vulgar propaganda. Noam and Chris should be our standard core not the exception
Long live communism and freedom
15:00 US intervention in Nicaragua
Does anyone know where I might gain access to history texts about the mid to late 19th century labour movements and such things? That history is entirely unfamiliar to me!
A history of America in Ten Strikes by Erik Loomis is a good place to start surveying US labor history. American labor has always faced a more violent and forceful opposition from owners and state than many of our European counterparts. What's surprising to see today, is how vibrant and widespread the labor movement was. And how total and intentional it's destruction was. But I have hope, especially with our teachers and nurses in the current labor movement. People seem to be waking up again.
Time to get out the pitchforks.😈
Dickensonian? Did he mean Dickensian?
+LiberaLib He sure did. Oh well, no one's perfect
Chomsky: "Capitalist morality"... that's a contradiction in terms....
After listening to Noam Chomsky I am thinking of taking a clep test in US Polotics and History. Lol
They are probably gonna fail me for speaking too much truth.
Still listening to you two in 2017 and hoping the government someday will, too ...
HELLO..... ANYBODY OUT THERE? WHAT IS STOPPING US FROM BRINGING THEM TO TRIAL????????????????? We have all the mechanisms in place, from Nuremberg. What is stopping us?
It kills me that Prof Chomsky can speak so calmly about the horrific atrocities committed by the US and British governments.
These guys are so well read, they're just looking at each other like, "yeah, I know."
Knowing both of their works pretty well and having heard Chomsky say most of this many times throughout the last few decades it does kinda seem like it was a "I know this, you know this, we've both been saying it for most of our lives. But this is for the people who haven't had the opportunity or can't sit through talks" lol Solid stuff regardless. If Chomsky, Parenti, Hedges, and Varoufakis were household names we'd be living in a very different world and consistently moving in the right direction. ✊
He talked for Almost 18min. Straight.
Not even a mortal combat combo can match this one.. Thanks guys, your awesome! :-))
The public trans issue, unions come next. Strike for higher pay, bus drivers earning 30 grand/yr. What's wrong with that? Many sectors want to follow suit. What's next? Librarians making 50g/yr? Legislation destroyed fraternity, now people think the sky will fall if government doesn't do everything. The people and the cronies are united in their distain for free markets. Hurray.
Profit over People author Noam Chomsky AND Told You So by NADER Ralph himself. READ?
From the Interview: facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=538083622981140&set=a.521553087967527.1073741828.520359091420260&type=1&theater
"Lenin and Bolsheviks are right wing deviants because they argued for centralized control"
3:39 'craftsman vs a wage earner. Selling what you make vs selling yourself....which is deeply offensive.They condemned the New Spirt Of The Age " Gain wealth for getting (it ) all but loosing (one's ) self" Nowadays we've been taught to see ourselves as a part of a larger machine. We have a "newtonian parts mentality" so we're all just cogs in a wheel. Love The Naom. Wish I had more time. Brilliant.
Since our government is not doing its job to protect the public interests, they do not deserve to be paid. Why pay taxes without representation? If the system does not change, it is up to the public to force a change.... just stop paying them for services they did not render
A rare treat - two of my favourite public intellectuals. Both men I admire and respect for their courage, their willingness to speak the plain truth about the nature of Power and the dangerous historical moments we are all living through. Both are powerful advocates of revolt in an age where revolt is as unthinkable as its necessity is universal. Chris Hedges has a tremendous wisdom and exudes a muscular humanity combining moral authority with personable humility. He would have made a terrific minister - but making a much better revolutionary, is almost the personification of the ethical and moral force of mass insurgency. Chomsky on the other hand I love. As simple as that. He's like a grandfather figure now, and I have learned much from this tireless dissident over many years. Just goes to show, somewhat ironically perhaps - anarchists make, and always have made, great and timelessly inspirational leaders. from Durruti to Orwell and beyond. Chomsky and Hedges are in the end just part of a venerable tradition - one which shapes history. Remember History? It's up to us to make it happen.
This man is extremely knowledgeable.
i love to watch the fave of Christ...nodding ...yes.. yes....without sayi g a word...
A brilliant man listen to him and don't follow the herd mentality for the masses are always on the wrong side of history
Two of the greatest and most valuable minds in the world. Lightning sparks :P
Whatever the cause, whoever’s to blame...global warming is happening at a very scary and almost unimaginable rate of speed.
i agree with much of what he says. but he does not take into consideration the participation in leadership/gov by people who do not have penises. humans with penises never seem to take humans with vaginas into consideration. to their detriment.
I hope Bangladesh 🇧🇩 one day will produce people like Noam and Chris
@ 39:55 Chomsky says how Japan offered the states a low interest loan to build high speed rail. Why would the US _need_ a loan from Japan? Secondly, why would a nation who's debt is around 200% GDP be actively loaning out money for another nations infrastructure.
What an odd statement / situation...
Harry Harger Most Biz is done OPM or on loans. Few but the poor pay cash on any level.
Harry Harger Its true that Japans debt is close to 200% but it is also true that most of that debt is owe internally owe to their people. Japan sells their high tech internationally so they have lots of $. Those dollars are valuable and can be loaned to anyone who could used them and pay them back. Why the USA can not just print Dollars, they could but if they do they have to borrow them dollars anyways and more if the dollars are printed they still have to pay interest on them, because the US $ is the international currency it is not just the USA currency. So printing is monetizing the debt creating more dollars, the $ value will decrease faster then if the already existing dollars are borrow.
Hedges 2020
Most of the content of the interview is not new or surprising. Its power exceeds because these are two of the most credible people on the planet, at least that I know of.
"Engineering consent"
two of my favorite guys in the world. Too bad Ralph Nader was not there.
Some hide from truth, as its its to troublesome.
what the hell does he mean in the end when he says "gain the consciousness of the indigenous people of the world, or were dead"?
only criticism here is that hedges always says om knee potent. heard it in other interviews too
noam chonskys neck flab keeps on rubbing up on the mic giving me a migrain
Outstanding interview. No surprise there though lol
a classic example of everything he talks about can be observed within the auspices of the TABC. as an example it serves as a near perfect microcosm of this sickening chokehold of the ruling elite. texas is the perfect example of how any "free state" can ultimately be taken out by the Rothschild cancer.
long-time listener, first-time caller ... what's the "TABC" ?
Did he say we live in a “dickinsonian” system? Did hedges mean Dickensian ?
#ChrisHedges and #NoamChomsky , two #DemocraticSocialists that are proud of that.
Two great lecturers whose words could be carved in stone.
Great interview
Noam is an oracle of human knowledge. Listen and learn.