With regard to the stone shelter near the summit of Mt. San Jacinto, I used to have coffee with the guy who built it. I lived in Idyllwild for a brief spell back in late '70 through June of '71. The mason, known as Zubie, frequented the Coffee Cup, which is still there but under a different name. As I recall he emigrated to this country from Austria sometime in the 20s or early 30s, and was in the CCC, Civilian Conservation Corps. He told me that he built the hut in about 1934 using a technique called "dry masonry," with no mortar being used. I remember seeing the hut the first time I made the summit of Mt. San Jac, back in '58 or '59, as a Boy Scout. The fact that the hut is still standing, despite the numerous earthquakes that have occurred in the past 90 years or so, is a testament to Zubie's skill as a stonemason.
I used to work there as a tram operator! Wonderful place, they run like a tight-nit family & everyone is great there. I loved that it was almost impossible to stay in a bad mood working there. No matter how bad your day was, once you get over tower 3 and get the views & some fresh air, it all melts away! You just missed the snow! We got some this past wknd & there’s definitely more on the way. Really loved your video!
Ahh that's awesome and great to hear. Yea, everyone is always super-friendly at the tram and it's always a pleasure to visit. I've been going for the last 10 years and always a fun adventure. And yea, today San J is probably getting clobbered. The mountain weather has summit winds at 70mph.... not a good hair day....
Thank you for the memories. I've done this hike twice, the first time in my 50s over 10 years ago! I can see this glorious mountain from my living room in the valley below to the west.
Climbed San "Jack" from all sides with a trail. ... SoCal Boy Scout mtn of passage... Did it once after getting off the tram. It's a haul of a dayhike and the elevation gain weeds out the smokers, sandal/tennis shoes,thirsty, hungry,out of shape, sprained ankles, mosquito bit,crampy muscles,cardiovascular problems,,,,headaches... Be prepared to turn back lest you miss the last tram down.
NOTE: While driving fwy10, notice the steep avalanche gullies off of the peak. That's a "practice " dayhike for those locals bound for Mt Everest( or just because it's there).
I did this hike the hard way as a kid back in 1969. As well as Baden Powell, Baldy, Gorgonio, then Whitney as a Boy Scout. I thought the trail was better marked. I am in good shape. But not having hiked this peak in several years, I think I will pass on this one. I thought the trail was better marked. Instead, I will try Baden Powell again which I know is well marked. Thank you.
Thanks so much for the detailed and informative vlog. I have been up the tram a number of times both in summer and winter but mainly stay closer to the tram station with its incredible views of the Coachella Valley. I can even pick out where I live in Palm Springs. Always wondered about the hike to the summit. Now I know and it is as beautiful as I imagined it would be. So amazing to go from desert palms to high mountain pines. It never gets old. The diversity of California is truly amazing.
I agree 100%, it always amazes me how I can be in the Sonoran Desert and then a snow-capped mountain in a relatively short hike. Glad you got to experience the tram and area - I love it here and don't plan on leaving - so many great hikes.
Cris, this is a nice hike. I did it back in April 2018 while out there with my wife and parents. My wife just did the loop hike around in the park. Even though the elevation gain and distance is not that much, it can be a bit of shock to the system, because most folks are coming in from PS which is at ~400 ft of elevation. So, in the span of about an hour, you go from there to ~8500 ft and then start the hike. Drink plenty of water before you start and then carry what you need. It is a nice hike to do in the fall or spring when there is little to no snow up there and it also isn't that warm out.
Glad to hear that you got to do it and yes, agreed 100%, it's def a shock to the system coming from up from the desert floor. I think this hike kicks people's butts more than most because of that. This was the first time that I did this route without snow in a couple of years. Such a pretty route.
@@ayanamitchell7906 When I did this hike, it was in the 90s in PS, but 50s at the top of the tram. I wore shorts and a long sleeve top. There was just a little scattered residual snow as you got near the peak.
@Christopher Haak 👋 CH Thank you so much for your response 🙂🙏. Please tell me, which specific month was this that it was in the 90 degrees range when you did your hike?
Gosh, this hike won’t make your freckles stand out like I saw on your hike C2C😊 I did my C2C thanks to your amazing video and I did everything you showed there 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 I walked 11 hrs throughout the night 🎉🎉🎉( bottom to the tram )😎 next day I did, tram yo the peak it was an EPIC experience this trail is a luxury in the desert ☮️
Did a lot of this hike with my Boy Scout troop many decades ago. Even as a young kid this was a tough hike. Altitude is a factor and affects your breathing. We camped out up there and that night I got altitude sickness really bad. That said it is a beautiful hike.
Thank you for your amazing hiking videos. Before venturing out to any of the So Cal big peaks, I always check your site to see if you've covered it. Your guides are excellent - thorough and beautifully shot. Planning on doing San Jacinto this year - 4th of my 6 pack of peaks!!
Thanks for this.. as someone from the flat midwest, the Tram was a real ear-popping treat! And when we went it was a very clear day and you could see for miles and miles, according to the sign there. So glad I did not decide to hike further.. and your video was just great!
Thank you 👍 and I'm glad that you got to experience it. And yea, I've been on the tram many times and it always gets my heart going a bit too, it's def an experience.
Hmmm. I remember a steep shale portion near the top that I boot "skied" down, jumping back and forth like downhill skiing in the loose shale. It was the highlight of the hike for me. I didn't see the shale area in this video. I hiked this 20+ years ago, so I don't remember exactly where it was.
We took the tram up and hiked to Round Valley to camp. We summited in the morning. We’ve found ways to get around being slow hikers who still want to do it all!
I found your website when I needed to get out of town and do a hike close to my homebase after July 4th... did the Tahquitz Loop hike. I was ill prepared and terribly out of shape: hiking in newish 511 boots, a sundress, and carrying food stuff in a Costco bag. Needless to say I had blisters, heat exhaustion/altitude sickness(???), and severe pain everywhere. Two days later I did the SJ Peak via Devil's Slide hike. Started from Humber Park at 6am and returned at 7:45 pm but wore my Altra Lone Peak work shoes I forgot I had in the vehicle... so much better than than those boots! Discovered from a couple at the peak that this hike was an option from the tram. After research I found your TH-cam channel and this video that I was able to share with my Mom (who is not very mobile and unsble to hike but enjoys nature). It's so nice to be able to show her what I'm doing on my hikes. I've since done my first backpacking trip to Round Valley for two nights and a hike to SJ Peak via the tram route. Thanks for your informative videos/blogs. I'll make a concerted effort to like your videos and purchase using your links. Looking forward to watching more of your videos and doing those hikes. Thank you!!
Ah that's great to hear and I'm glad you found the Lone Peaks work well. Having good footwear is a big factor in whether or not a hike is a pleasure or torture. And happy to hear that you're getting to explore the San Jacinto area. I wanted to do more guides there this summer but the heat has been crazy. Maybe in the next few months. And a BIG thank you for your support! There's lots more guides on the site, hopefully some inspiration to continue your hiking adventures. See you out there!
Just didn't have a chance yet but hoping to next year. I was planning on spending a lot more time up there this past year but "work work" got in the way...
I had family visiting me for Thanksgiving, I drove from Fullerton , when a got there they were shopping because people need to get tickets on line, on line tickets were sold out, we had to get back sadly 😔, so next time I'll get tickets on line FIRST
Humm i dis this hike by self through the nite I got lost 2 miles by the water because I was not able to see the trail but I did make it to the summit 😉
Looks like a great hike Chris! Have you ever done the "Devils Slide" trail from Idlewild? It ends at a junction to go several directions. Just as the name implies, it's a "hump"! Also, when taking the tram, is there a place to camp for the night near by to acclimate before going to the summit? Maybe near the ranger station?
Yup, that's a great trail - I have it covered in my guide to Tahquitz Peak - only thing is that you need a permit on weekends. I'll do dome guides from Devils Slide and Fuller at some point, I love that area. And yes, you can camp at Round Valley or Tamarack Valley, both really beautiful and nice spots!
What hikes in southern california should i complete before i attempt this hike? Im thinking of doing this hike this summer but i have to wait until all thr snow is completely melted.
The best prep for any mountain hike is to do the hike. Simply go as far as you can. You learn something about the trail and its difficulty. Try San Bernardino Peak. It is longer and more difficult, but more accessible. If you can do SBP then you can do San Jacinto.
The hardest part about this hike is the new revolving tram. I did not like that thing, not one bit. Once my feet were on solid ground, I could hike, climb, descend, whatever, for hours on end.
@@Hikingguy oh kool won’t be so hard for me then lol btw hi I love ur vids ! Every time I want to attempt a hike I always check out your video review first !
I'd check at the ranger station on the way up. I haven't been there in the last few weeks. Generally one path is way more worn in the snow though and it's usually obvious.
I going up may 25th for 2 night but I'm not getting any reliable info on water situation,I'm staying at round valley.where can I get reliable water info
In June 1984, a tram car was headed down the mountain when a bolt from a shock absorber snapped, causing a 30-pound (14 kg) piece of metal to crash through a Plexiglas window along the car's roof. Tram passenger Elaine Tseko of Ontario, California, was struck by the piece and later died as a result of the injury.[4] In September 1984, during routine maintenance, an auxiliary cable snapped and wrapped around the main cable tracks. The Desert Sun newspaper reported that if the broken cable hadn't wedged itself under the main track cables, a rescue car with the tram's workmen in it could have plummeted down the mountain into the lower tramway station. "Without the snag," a state investigator said, "those two men wouldn't be with us today."[4] In October 2003, a steel cable broke and caused a mechanical failure that left more than fifty tramway customers hanging in mid-air and one hundred passengers stranded at the Mountain station for 4½ hours. During the crisis, tramway officials sought a rescue helicopter but could not locate one.[6] The obstruction was removed by a tram operator with no training in maintenance, utilizing a borrowed Leatherman utility knife. The Desert Sun later reported that a cable inspector had discovered a break in the rescue line almost two hours before the incident occurred.[7]
JN, he's not a meteorologist. Do ur do diligence and monitor the weather urself. That's the only way u'll know. We are in a severe drought so good luck with that.
I heard there's supposed to be some snow up there on Tuesday. For the past few days it's been cloudy in the valley, and today it actually rained, so it definitely seems to me like some snow is due to happen soon!
With regard to the stone shelter near the summit of Mt. San Jacinto, I used to have coffee with the guy who built it. I lived in Idyllwild for a brief spell back in late '70 through June of '71. The mason, known as Zubie, frequented the Coffee Cup, which is still there but under a different name. As I recall he emigrated to this country from Austria sometime in the 20s or early 30s, and was in the CCC, Civilian Conservation Corps. He told me that he built the hut in about 1934 using a technique called "dry masonry," with no mortar being used.
I remember seeing the hut the first time I made the summit of Mt. San Jac, back in '58 or '59, as a Boy Scout. The fact that the hut is still standing, despite the numerous earthquakes that have occurred in the past 90 years or so, is a testament to Zubie's skill as a stonemason.
That's great, thanks for sharing that. I knew the CCC had built it but didn't know any details past that.
I did it two weeks ago. It’s no joke. And one could easily get lost on the way down if it gets dark
I used to work there as a tram operator! Wonderful place, they run like a tight-nit family & everyone is great there. I loved that it was almost impossible to stay in a bad mood working there. No matter how bad your day was, once you get over tower 3 and get the views & some fresh air, it all melts away!
You just missed the snow! We got some this past wknd & there’s definitely more on the way. Really loved your video!
Ahh that's awesome and great to hear. Yea, everyone is always super-friendly at the tram and it's always a pleasure to visit. I've been going for the last 10 years and always a fun adventure.
And yea, today San J is probably getting clobbered. The mountain weather has summit winds at 70mph.... not a good hair day....
@@Hikingguy I need your help finding the data for the hike middle fork to three T’s … thanks
Thank you for the memories. I've done this hike twice, the first time in my 50s over 10 years ago! I can see this glorious mountain from my living room in the valley below to the west.
Climbed San "Jack" from all sides with a trail.
... SoCal Boy Scout mtn of passage...
Did it once after getting off the tram.
It's a haul of a dayhike and the elevation gain weeds out the smokers, sandal/tennis shoes,thirsty, hungry,out of shape, sprained ankles, mosquito bit,crampy muscles,cardiovascular problems,,,,headaches...
Be prepared to turn back lest you miss the last tram down.
NOTE: While driving fwy10, notice the steep avalanche gullies off of the peak.
That's a "practice " dayhike for those locals bound for Mt Everest( or just because it's there).
I did this hike the hard way as a kid back in 1969. As well as Baden Powell, Baldy, Gorgonio, then Whitney as a Boy Scout. I thought the trail was better marked. I am in good shape. But not having hiked this peak in several years, I think I will pass on this one. I thought the trail was better marked. Instead, I will try Baden Powell again which I know is well marked. Thank you.
this trail is pretty well marked, I think you'll be okay
Very nice presentation!!!
Thanks so much for the detailed and informative vlog. I have been up the tram a number of times both in summer and winter but mainly stay closer to the tram station with its incredible views of the Coachella Valley. I can even pick out where I live in Palm Springs. Always wondered about the hike to the summit. Now I know and it is as beautiful as I imagined it would be. So amazing to go from desert palms to high mountain pines. It never gets old. The diversity of California is truly amazing.
I agree 100%, it always amazes me how I can be in the Sonoran Desert and then a snow-capped mountain in a relatively short hike. Glad you got to experience the tram and area - I love it here and don't plan on leaving - so many great hikes.
Cris, this is a nice hike. I did it back in April 2018 while out there with my wife and parents. My wife just did the loop hike around in the park. Even though the elevation gain and distance is not that much, it can be a bit of shock to the system, because most folks are coming in from PS which is at ~400 ft of elevation. So, in the span of about an hour, you go from there to ~8500 ft and then start the hike. Drink plenty of water before you start and then carry what you need. It is a nice hike to do in the fall or spring when there is little to no snow up there and it also isn't that warm out.
Glad to hear that you got to do it and yes, agreed 100%, it's def a shock to the system coming from up from the desert floor. I think this hike kicks people's butts more than most because of that. This was the first time that I did this route without snow in a couple of years. Such a pretty route.
@Christopher Haak 👋 Thank you for posting this video! Please tell me, how many degrees F was it at the time?
@@ayanamitchell7906 When I did this hike, it was in the 90s in PS, but 50s at the top of the tram. I wore shorts and a long sleeve top. There was just a little scattered residual snow as you got near the peak.
@Christopher Haak 👋 CH Thank you so much for your response 🙂🙏. Please tell me, which specific month was this that it was in the 90 degrees range when you did your hike?
Gosh, this hike won’t make your freckles stand out like I saw on your hike C2C😊 I did my C2C thanks to your amazing video and I did everything you showed there 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 I walked 11 hrs throughout the night 🎉🎉🎉( bottom to the tram )😎 next day I did, tram yo the peak it was an EPIC experience this trail is a luxury in the desert ☮️
Did a lot of this hike with my Boy Scout troop many decades ago. Even as a young kid this was a tough hike. Altitude is a factor and affects your breathing. We camped out up there and that night I got altitude sickness really bad. That said it is a beautiful hike.
Wow this is a great video, I moved to San Jacinto 3 years ago. Never knee they had a trail like this. I'll be hiking that trail soon.
AWESOME!!! I'm heading up there next Saturday with my son. THANK YOU FOR THE GUIDE!!
Have fun, it's a classic!
I love how that dry forested terrain looks like.
On my Feb list of hikes. Thank you!
Thank you for your amazing hiking videos. Before venturing out to any of the So Cal big peaks, I always check your site to see if you've covered it. Your guides are excellent - thorough and beautifully shot. Planning on doing San Jacinto this year - 4th of my 6 pack of peaks!!
Thank you 🙏 Stay tuned for more hikes...
I went here February. It was covered in several feet of snow. Was beautiful, but couldn't hike very far.
Thank you!! Helps us know what we're up against. Climbing in 2 weeks
Thank you for this great video guide. Planning to do this hike in two weeks, very informative and helpful!!!
A fun day trip
Thanks for this.. as someone from the flat midwest, the Tram was a real ear-popping treat! And when we went it was a very clear day and you could see for miles and miles, according to the sign there. So glad I did not decide to hike further.. and your video was just great!
Thank you 👍 and I'm glad that you got to experience it. And yea, I've been on the tram many times and it always gets my heart going a bit too, it's def an experience.
Okay
Very helpful! Doing this exact hike in a couple weeks
Wow, what a clear day! I really want to get down there sometime.
Hmmm. I remember a steep shale portion near the top that I boot "skied" down, jumping back and forth like downhill skiing in the loose shale. It was the highlight of the hike for me. I didn't see the shale area in this video. I hiked this 20+ years ago, so I don't remember exactly where it was.
Thank you
We took the tram up and hiked to Round Valley to camp. We summited in the morning. We’ve found ways to get around being slow hikers who still want to do it all!
I found your website when I needed to get out of town and do a hike close to my homebase after July 4th... did the Tahquitz Loop hike. I was ill prepared and terribly out of shape: hiking in newish 511 boots, a sundress, and carrying food stuff in a Costco bag. Needless to say I had blisters, heat exhaustion/altitude sickness(???), and severe pain everywhere. Two days later I did the SJ Peak via Devil's Slide hike. Started from Humber Park at 6am and returned at 7:45 pm but wore my Altra Lone Peak work shoes I forgot I had in the vehicle... so much better than than those boots! Discovered from a couple at the peak that this hike was an option from the tram. After research I found your TH-cam channel and this video that I was able to share with my Mom (who is not very mobile and unsble to hike but enjoys nature). It's so nice to be able to show her what I'm doing on my hikes. I've since done my first backpacking trip to Round Valley for two nights and a hike to SJ Peak via the tram route. Thanks for your informative videos/blogs. I'll make a concerted effort to like your videos and purchase using your links. Looking forward to watching more of your videos and doing those hikes. Thank you!!
Ah that's great to hear and I'm glad you found the Lone Peaks work well. Having good footwear is a big factor in whether or not a hike is a pleasure or torture. And happy to hear that you're getting to explore the San Jacinto area. I wanted to do more guides there this summer but the heat has been crazy. Maybe in the next few months. And a BIG thank you for your support! There's lots more guides on the site, hopefully some inspiration to continue your hiking adventures. See you out there!
Thank you for such a detailed video. There’s more to it than I thought. Great job!!
Best get away ever !
Man, this is such a great looking hike. I'm going to put it on the 2022 list!
Did this hike three years ago and got altitude sickness. But it was a lot of fun! :-)
Ha yea, that can happen, especially when you get zapped up 6000 feet in 10 minutes. Glad you got to experience the hike, it's a classic.
Always the best videos. Excellent information 👍
Just did this hike after doing the 10 miles from Palm Springs. This whole section was about 90% covered in snow. Looks much easier without the snow 😂
Thx again! Looks like a cool hike. 👍🏻
Looks like an awesome hike
Another great video Cris. Did you look into hiking to Jean Peak and Marion Mtn?
Just didn't have a chance yet but hoping to next year. I was planning on spending a lot more time up there this past year but "work work" got in the way...
Subscribe! I'm doing this hike next.
Thank you very much for such a detailed and informative video! No campfires at that campsite I assume...? I wanted to go and stay overnight.
It depends on the conditions, the move is to check the website for the park before you go - most folks just use their camp stove I'd imagine
I had family visiting me for Thanksgiving, I drove from Fullerton , when a got there they were shopping because people need to get tickets on line, on line tickets were sold out, we had to get back sadly 😔, so next time I'll get tickets on line FIRST
Can u doing on the winter time with snow 🥶🤔
I'm done doing mountain hikes in the snow I think, I'd rather hit the desert, etc.
Many people still get lost if they veer right and follow the waterfalls it has many dead ends. A navy vet died in 2004 at a gorg close by
Humm i dis this hike by self through the nite I got lost 2 miles by the water because I was not able to see the trail but I did make it to the summit 😉
what species of trees are those around the summit? working a trail just below a 9,000 ft. peak no snow on it, quite unusual for our area in december
not positive but I think they're limber pines
Looks like a great hike Chris! Have you ever done the "Devils Slide" trail from Idlewild? It ends at a junction to go several directions. Just as the name implies, it's a "hump"! Also, when taking the tram, is there a place to camp for the night near by to acclimate before going to the summit? Maybe near the ranger station?
Yup, that's a great trail - I have it covered in my guide to Tahquitz Peak - only thing is that you need a permit on weekends. I'll do dome guides from Devils Slide and Fuller at some point, I love that area. And yes, you can camp at Round Valley or Tamarack Valley, both really beautiful and nice spots!
@@Hikingguy where can I get a camping permit ?
@@josejaviergarciaparamo7130 www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=30372
@@Hikingguy thanks
What hikes in southern california should i complete before i attempt this hike? Im thinking of doing this hike this summer but i have to wait until all thr snow is completely melted.
this is a good warmup - hikingguy.com/hiking-trails/los-angeles-hikes/hike-keller-peak-on-the-exploration-trail/
The best prep for any mountain hike is to do the hike. Simply go as far as you can. You learn something about the trail and its difficulty. Try San Bernardino Peak. It is longer and more difficult, but more accessible. If you can do SBP then you can do San Jacinto.
This trails seem hard to follow from the video, htyere marked with rocks?
I had a hard time just from the parking lot to the lobby..
does anyone check to see if everyone filled out the permit
Park ranger checks. Daytrippers have nearly died getting lost in the canyons.
The hardest part about this hike is the new revolving tram. I did not like that thing, not one bit. Once my feet were on solid ground, I could hike, climb, descend, whatever, for hours on end.
Real question which hike is harder ? Mount Baldy peak? Or jancinto ?
Between this and Baldy, I'd go with Baldy.
@@Hikingguy oh kool won’t be so hard for me then lol btw hi I love ur vids ! Every time I want to attempt a hike I always check out your video review first !
How about Cactus to Clouds hike?
I have it up on the site already, but hoping to reshoot it at some point, weather permitting.
That is a great, but tough hike
Three is no snow yet
Or one could hike all the way up from the desert floor. Known as the Cactus to Clouds.
Yup - I have a guide and video for that on the site/channel too - another great one.
8:36 in the winter should you take that route or stay on the official trail?
I'd check at the ranger station on the way up. I haven't been there in the last few weeks. Generally one path is way more worn in the snow though and it's usually obvious.
@@Hikingguy ok thanks
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Any suggestions on the time of year that is best up there given the Palm Springs excessive heat?
You can do this hike any time in the summer - it's much cooler at this altitude. You just don't want to do it in the winter / snow as a beginner.
I going up may 25th for 2 night but I'm not getting any reliable info on water situation,I'm staying at round valley.where can I get reliable water info
this site is pretty good for current conditions: sanjacjon.com - you can also call the ranger station at Long Valley
It's very unusual that we're in December and we haven't had a single snow fall.
Could I be able to take snacks and beverages?
yup
Now do from the lowest point in the USA in Death Valley to the highest point in Mount Whitney.
Hike the Badwater! Def on my list....
The white rock you see is Granodiorite ........................
We did it from town...the honest way. It's "Cactus to Clouds," not "Clouds to Clouds."
Do you have people go with you...I know where a lost plane is over In palmspring!?
Which wreck site is it? I can't remember hiking to any in the PS area but have seen them elsewhere in the mtns...
I like how he says the Tram is "relatively" safe. Seriously guy ?
In June 1984, a tram car was headed down the mountain when a bolt from a shock absorber snapped, causing a 30-pound (14 kg) piece of metal to crash through a Plexiglas window along the car's roof. Tram passenger Elaine Tseko of Ontario, California, was struck by the piece and later died as a result of the injury.[4]
In September 1984, during routine maintenance, an auxiliary cable snapped and wrapped around the main cable tracks. The Desert Sun newspaper reported that if the broken cable hadn't wedged itself under the main track cables, a rescue car with the tram's workmen in it could have plummeted down the mountain into the lower tramway station. "Without the snag," a state investigator said, "those two men wouldn't be with us today."[4]
In October 2003, a steel cable broke and caused a mechanical failure that left more than fifty tramway customers hanging in mid-air and one hundred passengers stranded at the Mountain station for 4½ hours. During the crisis, tramway officials sought a rescue helicopter but could not locate one.[6] The obstruction was removed by a tram operator with no training in maintenance, utilizing a borrowed Leatherman utility knife. The Desert Sun later reported that a cable inspector had discovered a break in the rescue line almost two hours before the incident occurred.[7]
Do you think there will be snow there in a couple weeks? I’m planning to go towards the end of the month and haven’t been in quite some time.
JN, he's not a meteorologist. Do ur do diligence and monitor the weather urself. That's the only way u'll know.
We are in a severe drought so good luck with that.
You can easily get the top of the tram weather and information on snow up there. IT all depends on the weather.
Yea no way to know - might be some snow with today's weataher
@@MadCatMaddie Thanks, Eddie. I didn’t ask if he’s a meteorologist. Nice grammar also.
I heard there's supposed to be some snow up there on Tuesday. For the past few days it's been cloudy in the valley, and today it actually rained, so it definitely seems to me like some snow is due to happen soon!
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