I love these Pedals you are testing that aren'tnecessarily mainstream brands. I would put out the NuoSimulation and the DC Simracing ones as well. They both are looking pretty fire and the NuoSimulation even isn't just some basic Heusinkveld clone, but rather trying some new things in it.
Thank you for the detailed Racewerk pedal review as I am considering purchasing a 2-part pedal set. To be honest, I'm a bit surprised at the flickering signal on the throttle and also on the brake. The flickering at the end points and the impulses can be overridden via the dead zone calibration in order to avoid active signal jumps here, but there also seems to be a flickering signal in the active measuring zones (should also be the case). To do this, however, you would have to hold the pedal a little longer within this measuring zone in order to be able to see this more precisely. Unfortunately, this was not shown in detail. With an actual 16-bit resolution, this flickering and signal jumps would probably become even more clearly visible. However, the actual signal resolution seems to be below what is stated, why? Maybe I am misunderstanding something here too? The lateral movement of the brake pedal in operation also surprised me a bit due to the massive construction and the advertised high-quality elements. If a modification to the fastening elements is necessary after 4 hours of operation, then I am actually not so sure about long-term carefree use. A manufacturer like Racewerk, which brings high-end pedals onto the market at a correspondingly high price, should also meet the high-end expectations of users. Reading between the lines, I don't understand or feel any extraordinary euphoria regarding these pedals in this review.
So you've got a pedal with that is advertised as 16 bit resolution which is 65536 points of throw for each pedal, and yet their program shows12bit resolution with 4096 possible points, and yet it uses 775 to go from 0-100% on the accelerator Which really means you're using less than 10bit. Really other than the hydrolic feel, you're not really getting more accurate pedals. For the price they're charging, I would expect to see better accuracy and use of the 16bit data they claim to use.
@@erwinlommer197 exactly what i thought to my g29 started doing that jerky thing after 2 years of use ..those doing it from the beginning is a red flag for me ..i am considering buying the tilton ones i am using HE sprints atm
@@tilus75 you are right i haven't thought about the emi that Barrys rig is emitting i dont really care about the resolution of the entry level pedals that i have mentioned g29, that i was saying that the potentiometers after tow year of use they start to do the same thing as the gas pedal on the video .. i get there is alot of emi but i got the impresion that it was due to a low quality potentiometer ..
@@wow35master I got sprints atm too, why do you want to change or more precisely, what do you think other pedals need to do better? That's not offensive in anyway, as I am considering myself to upgrade but I wonder what other people with Sprints want from more expensive pedals. For me it is the brake-feeling, it just seems not satisfying to me, like it is missing something in smoothness and consistency. No problems with acc/clutch though, I even believe the clutch won't be any better on any other pedals. What are you thinking of to get? I am unsure if I should just switch do Ultimates or go a different route...
@@empii911 hey i have the same experience with the brake to ! i have tried some mods also and added dumper but the brake pedal feels dead to me the is like i am pushing a bottle of Pepsi full and seal on the ground the feeling is stupid to me for a brake pedal ..how ever i love the gas pedal and my times got better due to smother operations of the gas pedal ...i was thinking to buy hydraulics that don't use rubber bumpers because i believe the feeling of my sprints are coming due to rubber bumper see the video of the Sim coaches hydraulics pedals and see how smooth and springy the seem to be .!
Great Review as always. I think after a certain point, with these kinds of equipment, we leave the Price/Performance boundries and cross over to Sim/Porn. Now that we have crossed the boundies of simporn fetish with these pedals, they will need to upgrade to 7075 (I mean come on *rolls eyes* at 2000USD I think the price change of bar stock from 6061 to 7075 will not make a difference. Hell the CNC shop will love you for it as it is nicer to machine. also 7075 loves hard anodizing. also a thrust bearing setup with wave washers with bronz inserts to remove the play. Machine the chamfers after anodizing.. also the message should be cut after anodizing. I guess the saying on motorcycles goes for sim racing as well. "Every seat has an ass for it to sit on"
Never read "simporn" before, but it exactly describes what's going on! :D I do like 7075 as well, but what would be the advantage for this product? 7075 has same stiffness as 6061. Higher strength has no advantage as even 6061 won't brake. ;) Our 7075 parts always become a little yellowish after anodizing. No problem for this full black style, but at least for natural aluminium finish I don't like 7075 for visible parts. But maybe our service provider does something wrong...
@@driflysh4597 that is the interesting characteristics of Hard anodizing and actually a good way to check if what you get is truely what you want. 7xxx gets brownish color 6xxx gets black I dont know 1xxx , 2xxx and 5xxx series has been a long time. I think at 5mm you can not break anything unless you made it out of cardboard ;) like I said when you reach this level we are playing for show :) I use lasercut pedals that are completely unfinished (nasty really) my friend uses 3d printed one, my other friend uses a gamepad. I have raced RC cars for 30 years RCporn had been the major sale points for rc cars and how companies made their money. It still is a major market. Barry uses HUDY allen wrenches. I have the same set with my name laser etched on them. I also 3 more sets from various companies. mind you they dont make you fast. they are just feel good toys that make you smile. These tools are more expensive than Snap-ons. for fit and finish you may want to look at Arrowmax-RC. what I am saying is after a while it becomes a "pleasure" to own these. for what its worth this is the only pedal set I have seen on Barry's reviews that checks the porn tick ;)
@@tilus75 I use a Bearing pedal. I think they are the way to go. They just need to be shimmed properly and you just need to make sure the fastners are not touching anything but the center of the bearing. By the way from what I wrote do not get the wrong idea. I love the pedals. hell If I were still in US, I would have these on my rig and pestering you for other things to make :) Sim racing is in its infancy compared to rc cars or real cars for that matter. SO I am just used to these high quality more expensive stuff.
Hello, I really enjoy and appreciate the attention to detail of your videos! Have you ever thought about giving advice on what parts to buy for a rig or doing something like a buyers guide? I was just introduced to sim racing with a simple wheel and pedal and I was absolutely blown away. Now I want to start building my own rig and I really don’t know where to start. I would love to see even a short video of you talking about your experience with your different parts and your personal opinion on them. Thanks for the videos and I wish you all the best!
@@teamracewerk_com9985 yes I understand the concept of development. But you claim yours have been perfect for 14 months and other people in way more recent weeks have found serious issues
Hi Barry, I've never seen you using these pedals in your newest videos but I often see the Simtrecs and Wave Italy pedals. So why is this, wouldn't you recommend the Racewerk pedals?
The S1 Pro's are a fine set of pedals. I use whatever fits my personal taste when it comes to Sim Racing gear. But, that is very subjective. Just because I use something as my daily driver does not mean that you will feel the same way. We all feel things a bit differently.
Hi, Barry I just got the same pedals and I'm struggling to get the Racewerk Calibration tuning tool...any tips I can get from you...? Did you have any issues at that time??
That design should be fairly easy to DIY. Those pressure transducers usually just take 5v and put out .5v-4.5v and are usually pretty linear in their response. They’d be easier to build than a load cell design.
Hm. Is it just an illusion, or is the brake pedal slightly shifting side to side towards the top of the pedal travel? It looks like it doesn't have a lot of stability from this camera angle.
@@Simlife101 It's excitement, not a demand. A Request for a review by the best. I'd suggest that text sometimes lacks conveyance. You choose to read it negatively. It's rude to assume. Its also rude to necro a comment long forgotten to a random nobody on the internet, that is completely uninterested in your opinions of youtube comment etiquette and tack. Pointless for us both right?
Nice review Barry! Doesn't the Lotus 79 have an H-pattern dog-box though? I thought you were not supposed to use the clutch while shifting for optimal results.
Luis Alves This was a review and he always drives the lotus 79 for consistency and it would make little sense to not use the clutch in a pedal review lol
hey Barry, or someone remember Barry did a review for a set of pedals a few months ago, a high end pedals that where compatible with consoles? i think price was 700 euros or 1700 don't remeber.. someone remember name of pedals?
I need new pedals so badly, it's undrivable. Last year I did half of my come back to sim racing re-do, I got my new wheel, and all my updated games, well most, and my rim. Now I need my pedals, my last rim, and my button box, to finish it off this year, and I should be racing in I racing again. My old pedals are almost 10 years old and I am so slow, I've given up.
I missed you for 2 weeks. Great video!
I will keep watch your videos till the end of time
Very impressive review. Watched from beginning to end. For people like me who learn off of videos like yours... well done! Thank you!
I love these Pedals you are testing that aren'tnecessarily mainstream brands. I would put out the NuoSimulation and the DC Simracing ones as well. They both are looking pretty fire and the NuoSimulation even isn't just some basic Heusinkveld clone, but rather trying some new things in it.
Thank you for the detailed Racewerk pedal review as I am considering purchasing a 2-part pedal set.
To be honest, I'm a bit surprised at the flickering signal on the throttle and also on the brake.
The flickering at the end points and the impulses can be overridden via the dead zone calibration in order to avoid active signal jumps here, but there also seems to be a flickering signal in the active measuring zones (should also be the case). To do this, however, you would have to hold the pedal a little longer within this measuring zone in order to be able to see this more precisely.
Unfortunately, this was not shown in detail.
With an actual 16-bit resolution, this flickering and signal jumps would probably become even more clearly visible.
However, the actual signal resolution seems to be below what is stated, why? Maybe I am misunderstanding something here too?
The lateral movement of the brake pedal in operation also surprised me a bit due to the massive construction and the advertised high-quality elements.
If a modification to the fastening elements is necessary after 4 hours of operation, then I am actually not so sure about long-term carefree use.
A manufacturer like Racewerk, which brings high-end pedals onto the market at a correspondingly high price, should also meet the high-end expectations of users.
Reading between the lines, I don't understand or feel any extraordinary euphoria regarding these pedals in this review.
@@tilus75 thank you very much for the clarification, understood and clear now.
IMO there are better options nowadays
@@Simlife101 like? which ones do you reccomend?
So you've got a pedal with that is advertised as 16 bit resolution which is 65536 points of throw for each pedal, and yet their program shows12bit resolution with 4096 possible points, and yet it uses 775 to go from 0-100% on the accelerator Which really means you're using less than 10bit. Really other than the hydrolic feel, you're not really getting more accurate pedals. For the price they're charging, I would expect to see better accuracy and use of the 16bit data they claim to use.
What worries me though is the throttle pedal signal flickering seen in the video. That is pretty jerky. I'd expect stable signal at this price level.
@@erwinlommer197 exactly what i thought to my g29 started doing that jerky thing after 2 years of use ..those doing it from the beginning is a red flag for me ..i am considering buying the tilton ones i am using HE sprints atm
@@tilus75 you are right i haven't thought about the emi that Barrys rig is emitting i dont really care about the resolution of the entry level pedals that i have mentioned g29, that i was saying that the potentiometers after tow year of use they start to do the same thing as the gas pedal on the video .. i get there is alot of emi but i got the impresion that it was due to a low quality potentiometer ..
@@wow35master I got sprints atm too, why do you want to change or more precisely, what do you think other pedals need to do better?
That's not offensive in anyway, as I am considering myself to upgrade but I wonder what other people with Sprints want from more expensive pedals.
For me it is the brake-feeling, it just seems not satisfying to me, like it is missing something in smoothness and consistency. No problems with acc/clutch though, I even believe the clutch won't be any better on any other pedals.
What are you thinking of to get? I am unsure if I should just switch do Ultimates or go a different route...
@@empii911 hey i have the same experience with the brake to ! i have tried some mods also and added dumper but the brake pedal feels dead to me the is like i am pushing a bottle of Pepsi full and seal on the ground the feeling is stupid to me for a brake pedal ..how ever i love the gas pedal and my times got better due to smother operations of the gas pedal ...i was thinking to buy hydraulics that don't use rubber bumpers because i believe the feeling of my sprints are coming due to rubber bumper see the video of the Sim coaches hydraulics pedals and see how smooth and springy the seem to be .!
Great Review as always.
I think after a certain point, with these kinds of equipment, we leave the Price/Performance boundries and cross over to Sim/Porn.
Now that we have crossed the boundies of simporn fetish with these pedals, they will need to upgrade to 7075 (I mean come on *rolls eyes* at 2000USD I think the price change of bar stock from 6061 to 7075 will not make a difference. Hell the CNC shop will love you for it as it is nicer to machine. also 7075 loves hard anodizing. also a thrust bearing setup with wave washers with bronz inserts to remove the play. Machine the chamfers after anodizing.. also the message should be cut after anodizing.
I guess the saying on motorcycles goes for sim racing as well. "Every seat has an ass for it to sit on"
Never read "simporn" before, but it exactly describes what's going on! :D
I do like 7075 as well, but what would be the advantage for this product? 7075 has same stiffness as 6061. Higher strength has no advantage as even 6061 won't brake. ;)
Our 7075 parts always become a little yellowish after anodizing. No problem for this full black style, but at least for natural aluminium finish I don't like 7075 for visible parts. But maybe our service provider does something wrong...
@@driflysh4597 that is the interesting characteristics of Hard anodizing and actually a good way to check if what you get is truely what you want.
7xxx gets brownish color
6xxx gets black
I dont know 1xxx , 2xxx and 5xxx series has been a long time.
I think at 5mm you can not break anything unless you made it out of cardboard ;)
like I said when you reach this level we are playing for show :) I use lasercut pedals that are completely unfinished (nasty really) my friend uses 3d printed one, my other friend uses a gamepad.
I have raced RC cars for 30 years RCporn had been the major sale points for rc cars and how companies made their money. It still is a major market. Barry uses HUDY allen wrenches. I have the same set with my name laser etched on them. I also 3 more sets from various companies. mind you they dont make you fast. they are just feel good toys that make you smile. These tools are more expensive than Snap-ons.
for fit and finish you may want to look at Arrowmax-RC.
what I am saying is after a while it becomes a "pleasure" to own these. for what its worth this is the only pedal set I have seen on Barry's reviews that checks the porn tick ;)
@@tilus75 I use a Bearing pedal. I think they are the way to go. They just need to be shimmed properly and you just need to make sure the fastners are not touching anything but the center of the bearing.
By the way from what I wrote do not get the wrong idea. I love the pedals. hell If I were still in US, I would have these on my rig and pestering you for other things to make :)
Sim racing is in its infancy compared to rc cars or real cars for that matter. SO I am just used to these high quality more expensive stuff.
Hello,
I really enjoy and appreciate the attention to detail of your videos! Have you ever thought about giving advice on what parts to buy for a rig or doing something like a buyers guide?
I was just introduced to sim racing with a simple wheel and pedal and I was absolutely blown away. Now I want to start building my own rig and I really don’t know where to start.
I would love to see even a short video of you talking about your experience with your different parts and your personal opinion on them.
Thanks for the videos and I wish you all the best!
Oooo I like the purple springs
Please vote for sim racing garage on fanatec site for the master to do the early review on the new csl DD.
Get a life lmao
The benefits of a hydraulic system are outweighed by the cons. Leaks, servicing and being fiddly. I will stick to a load cell.
@@teamracewerk_com9985 didn't boosted media experience problems and leaks during his review process?
@@teamracewerk_com9985 yeah but he just did the review like a couple months ago.
@@teamracewerk_com9985 yes I understand the concept of development. But you claim yours have been perfect for 14 months and other people in way more recent weeks have found serious issues
I was one of the first to have my RW pedals and there have been no leaks, including when I swapped out to a Tilton master.
There seems to be a lot of side to side movement on the brake pedal?
Hi Barry, I've never seen you using these pedals in your newest videos but I often see the Simtrecs and Wave Italy pedals. So why is this, wouldn't you recommend the Racewerk pedals?
The S1 Pro's are a fine set of pedals. I use whatever fits my personal taste when it comes to Sim Racing gear. But, that is very subjective. Just because I use something as my daily driver does not mean that you will feel the same way. We all feel things a bit differently.
Peter I've been using these pedals for 6 months with the sc2
There is no vibration. Pedals are first class.
Hi, Barry I just got the same pedals and I'm struggling to get the Racewerk Calibration tuning tool...any tips I can get from you...? Did you have any issues at that time??
Another great review.
That design should be fairly easy to DIY. Those pressure transducers usually just take 5v and put out .5v-4.5v and are usually pretty linear in their response. They’d be easier to build than a load cell design.
Hm. Is it just an illusion, or is the brake pedal slightly shifting side to side towards the top of the pedal travel? It looks like it doesn't have a lot of stability from this camera angle.
@Jonas Jonaitis I did but I had to mute it in a few places unfortunately
You did not mentionen the 3 lvl:S of smoothing and what they do.
I guess it smoothes out the sensitivity?
Nerzhul NWTC universal hub for Steering Wheels. I need a review of this thing A.S.A.P.
Mungaloid Manner my friend cost nothing.
I need asap is rude and no one will listen to be told what to do instead of being asked
@@Simlife101 It's excitement, not a demand. A Request for a review by the best. I'd suggest that text sometimes lacks conveyance. You choose to read it negatively. It's rude to assume. Its also rude to necro a comment long forgotten to a random nobody on the internet, that is completely uninterested in your opinions of youtube comment etiquette and tack. Pointless for us both right?
@@mungaloidender Have a nice day
@@Simlife101 ;)
@simracegarage how’s those pedals compared with simcoaches??
Are You sure they are not from the Crew Dragon that just landed 2 days ago??
Will there ever be a DRG Drone Racing Garage. I would watch all those videos as well.
Nice review Barry! Doesn't the Lotus 79 have an H-pattern dog-box though? I thought you were not supposed to use the clutch while shifting for optimal results.
Luis Alves
This was a review and he always drives the lotus 79 for consistency and it would make little sense to not use the clutch in a pedal review lol
It's quite funny how Barry jumps upward when doing heel & toe
hey Barry, or someone remember Barry did a review for a set of pedals a few months ago, a high end pedals that where compatible with consoles? i think price was 700 euros or 1700 don't remeber.. someone remember name of pedals?
any chance u could check out the sequential shifter/ebrake mod from custom sim shop? looks like it could b really good but i dunno
I need new pedals so badly, it's undrivable. Last year I did half of my come back to sim racing re-do, I got my new wheel, and all my updated games, well most, and my rim. Now I need my pedals, my last rim, and my button box, to finish it off this year, and I should be racing in I racing again. My old pedals are almost 10 years old and I am so slow, I've given up.
Lol you mentioned doing the right thing with not using plexiglass,…. But they didn’t have the aluminum anymore. I think they just sent you that one.
SRG is simply legendary
Nice
This a bit of a stretch, but any chance you'll be doing a review on ricmotech's ap-xtreme?
Thank you best reviewer in the game!
First?
seem so
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that is lots of noise in the linear pot...
Dead company :(
Hi..please translate in french and activate the translation.