If I had a nickle for everytime a member of OTK got accused of sexual harrassment this year I'd have two nickles. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice
Asmongold single handedly carrying OTK. I don't always agree with his opinions but in moments like these he shows time and time again how emotionally mature he really is, and that's something I respect a ton about him.
Yeah I used to really strongly dislike the community he had and how he acted in general, I can't even remember why exactly because it's been some time lol. But honestly I really respect the man now, he seems so much more mature than most of society these days and it's a breath of fresh air
@@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU Yeah because this woman gains so much from making up a story about a streamer with an average viewership of 7k... book deal and millions for sure! Not to mention the weird Rich clips of him acting like a total jackass in front of female casters and streamers... no red flags at all. Asmongold did what any sane person would do and distanced the company he worked on from the drama and the person associated with it. If Rich is innocent people will support him..including his friends. inb4 Rich goes to Japan like Mizkif after sharing "his side of the story"
Shouldn’t people not take either side until more of the facts come out about what happened? Jumping to conclusions one way or another isn’t good. Blindly trying to protect one side or the other isn’t brave or commendable it’s stupid.
I don't think OTK nor asmongold stands on any side on this, they simple removed Rich from OTK to avoid getting backfire from the public. wich in my eyes at least is quite logical.
@@ihrstan He decided to resign because it makes OTK look bad either way. So it was a decision on both sides. Rich isn't stupid so he knows how this looks, and when he is good and ready he will say something on it. He is probably gathering his own evidence and talking with a lawyer, which is probably telling him to say nothing until they can either have the accuser self destruct with their lies, (if it is lies) or until they are good and ready for an apology and will turn themselves in. OR until they can disprove it. Just because someone felt regret after having sex, it doesn't mean it is rape. And if it is rape then the rest will be handled by the law.
@@mrpumperknuckles1631 No it says something about how they value their business. It is business and it is removed from friendship. They all worked super hard for this, and there are many people who want to see them fail because a lot of people hate asmongold. But he is untouchable because...well he doesn't go outside like at all. So People will go after his weaknesses. His socialable (sort of) friends. The awkward nerds who can get women because of their money, but they can't deal with situations like this and can easily be manipulated. Or accused of things. It happens a lot in the gaming world. And Girl streamers are the most manipulative of all the women I have dealt with. That's not saying that this didn't happen, but Always take this shit with a grain of salt. Until the people whoi are equipped to deal with situations like these can gather the evidence and present an actual case you should never be on either side. Sure you can always support either one through their struggle with this. And if it didn't happen then you supported the wrong person, or if it did happen you supported the wrong person. But you supported someone because you believed in them. So believe who you want, but NEVER discredit or ostracize the other party until you have concrete evidence of the other's wrongdoing.
@@preslim84 stop salivating over Campbell's dck. There is proof about the allegations and he has always been a cringy weirdo (your rolemodel I imagine)
Crazy that gaming houses are turning into something really negative... I used to really dream of living in a house like that but now it feels like a drama spawner.
Honestly stuff like that should just be summer and winter holiday houses. Then throughout the year, people have their personal space, and can defuse rather than having tensions build up constantly
It's a lot like working at a game store. It sounds like a dream on the surface but the reality of it is way worst. Speaking from experience on that one too.
Otk is not gaming house though, its basically a group of individual streamer merging together to make shows, products (merchandise), business together. They're a company at this point
AOV Pro Player from Nepal here. No, not every "gaming house"(we call it bootcamp/training facility here has drama. Most of the top esports orgs bootcamps/training facilities are literally like an office with work, meeting and dining rooms. Everything is done super professionally. You can't expect "Professional Streamers" to have professionality in "Gaming Houses". Its not like they literally have a company to run like professional orgs and CEOs to cater to the investors/stakeholders/sponsors. Never ever generalize in anything.
I really appreciate these more serious type videos which are somewhat more informative and analytic. I remember the old days like during the Echo Fox stuff, and I realize its likely not a valid business strategy for youtube, I would love to see more long form videos or series of videos like those, especially over something like the recent Smash/Panda Cup controversy
that is the only evidence. Just texts saying that she did feel uncomfortable, but nothing about her texting him saying he was an asshole and he raped her or anything after. Just the stuff about them hanging out. Then a couple days later and a long ass tweet about it.
@Mastershep11n7 I see. I also noticed how she said "what do I have to gain from lying about it" idk how about revenge on an x and millions of people learning your name who would have otherwise never known she existed.
I hate how often they legitimately need to preface a video with that content warning. Not that it isn't necessary, it absolutely is. I just hate that it keeps happening to people.
Streaming is a messy business, it means dealing with, managing and working with other *people*. I am pretty sure that this is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to gamer streaming.
Happened in an apartment building right? Try to see if they got security footage with help of police. Tweeting about it is not gonna punish the assailant
So...... This thing happened and she waits over a year to say anything about it when conveniently there's not going to be any evidence available of it. Yeah sure okay, not buying it.
@@barrmane1141she says she was staying with a friend. Who she called after the supposed rape and since it was late at night. Her friend was not answering.
Exactly, it's like, oh since she is a girl, lets throw Rich under the bus without even hearing his side. I'm not calling the girl a liar at all, but we can't jump to conclusions from one sided story, especially without ANY evidence..... This modern age of burn first and have a trial later, is getting way out of hand. People really believe what they are told without actually debating it anymore, and it's getting quite scary. Like we saw this with Pro- Jared. Everyone came out and burned the poor guy to the ground and it turns out he did nothing wrong when he revealed his side of the story WITH the evidence.... For all we know, Rich and this girl could've had an argument, or falling out, and there is MUCH more going on than we even considered.
yeah. Any one of us can say someone sexually assaulted us. That's why they are allegations BUT they are still very, very destructive and could literally ruin someones life.
Casey Anthony went to court and clearly killed her daughter. But she walks free. Something doesn't need to go to court to be true. But apparently more women have come out to OTK, and I'll happily disregard Rich until he makes a statement.
It's a bit odd when it's currently just allegations and yet everyone jumps to immediately cannibalise their friend in exchange for clickbait. I found it very strange when Asmongold talked about not taking one side automatically while simultaneously taking the side of the accuser by disassociating himself with his friend.
Rich was dropped from the org, it doesn't mean he no longer associates with him or considers him a friend. Twitch is a business, and for Asmon and the other members of OTK, said organization is an extension of that business. Rich remaining in that organization would've been horrible for business. The closest thing Asmon did to "disassociating with Rich" and "taking a side" is telling the people that are ridiculing the accuser that they're not doing him any favors or on his side. He handled it like any responsible adult would, and it shouldn't be that surprising.
Ngl he probably had one of the best vibes out of the otk group, compared to slick at least who from the start looked shady. this did catch me off guard ngl hella disappointing and sad to hear. Glad she stepped forward, hopefully more will come forward thanks to this
asmon speech was absolute sht He says don't say she lying, cause we don't know and we need both sides to tell the story. But he fires the guy bafore we know if it happenned and did hear both sides.
@@skywillfindyou Asmon explicitly said he knew more information from what OTK learned after the story came out. Rich also said he'd tell his side but he didn't deny any claims. There are many cases where it's important to wait for more information before acting but this is not one of those. Asmon feels very strongly about being reasonable until you can see the big picture. When even he's not defending someone he's been friends with for years that pretty much means the situation is close to concrete. When stuff happened with Mizkif the treatment of it was extremely different.
@@skywillfindyou Rich was not just a streamer but partly an owner in the organization. The organization could lose sponsorships if one of it's owners is facing these accusation. As far as I know Zack can't "fire the guy" but the several other owners can collectively ask Rich to step down before seeking other methods.
Fetishes are fine. Doing shit consensually is the only way, no means no. Wouldn’t surprise me if someone does shit like that, just disappointing that people can’t comprehend boundaries.
I mean, guys have fetishes, if they were close he probably told her and i could see it being used against him now. Everybody fucking acts as if they dont have some kind of fetish like that, come the fuck on.
I dont follow this stuff at all but this kind if screams BS They have relationship for years it ends she feels uncomfortable around him then willingly goes to see him alone she again willingly goes up to his apartment to spend the night Once in the apartment something happens we don't know what they could have just had an argument or her accusations can be true Point being it just seems fishy and we all know how often females throw around false allegations just out of spite
I am always in two minds about videos like this. I feel for the victim but we all need to remember that we are all innocent until proven guilty. So as well as not attacking the person who has come forward the same needs to go for the accused.
one of the most important statements Asmongold made was to flat out say "This isn't drama, this is a crime". and explained that this situation shouldnt be farmed for content yet this video covers it like drama, and they probably shouldve included that statement from asmon
From a business standpoint it's not good to be associated with those kind of allegations. If she does turn out to be lying, which to be clear, is an extremely small amount of rape allegations then he is welcome to rejoin OTK. Always believe the victim. They genuinely have no reason to lie about this shit. If they do they are horrible human beings who are contributing to this exact problem where there is always skepticism when someone publicly comes out about being raped.
I’ve always thought rich was incredibly sus and wasn’t surprised in the slightest when I first saw the allegations, but after reading the victim’s story there are a few things that don’t add up to me. Why even put yourself in that situation if you say yourself you don’t trust him not to do something creepy? I’m interested to see both sides.
The two of them were on and off friends and partners for four years in a toxic relationship. At this point they were still friends after splitting up (at least in her head they were just friends, Rich clearly wanted to sleep with her but she kept giving him second chances). She may have thought he wanted to sleep with her but chances are she never thought he would do anything like he allegedly did
It does remind me of the time i met a dealer on the station he seemed really crappy but he told me he loved me and made me feel good about myself so i went in his house and then when he started playing with knives i layed next to him om the bed but then he suddenly stabbed me 300 times out of nowhere i had no idea it was coming and certainly didnt approve of it, i thought we was just gonna smoke his shit and watch some sesamestreet.. nocap
This is the thing. Rich needs to say something about it cause otherwise its just her word against nothing and while I would like to believe her she could just be making shit up we dont know for sure.
It would have been much simpler if she " had" taken it to court.....probably 0 physical evidence beyond the texts.....not saying she is lying....but its way to long ago for physical evidence.....unfortunately he would need to prove the opposite if he wants to ever go back to streaming
@@AA-bk1oe oh no not the horrible death threats that are never anything but bullshit whatever are we ganna do cuz someone said words to her😮 how will she go on with someone emailing her😢 I’m sure they are all ganna show up any time now lmao get real those death threats have always and will always be nothing
don't confuse the legal principle with the moral principle. Legally NO ONE can be called " criminal" untill a judge passes a sentence and that's the law too. Morally anyone can look at the situation and decide to dissociate from the accused person, in particular if there's business involved. The 2 priciple are separate from each other, no one is obligated to remain associated with anyone, regardless the ruling of a judge.
I really wanna hear Rich's Side, idk why but i dont take SA accustions lightly but her story doesnt add up, also noticed how her views were at an all time low and her twitter also not getting much traffic, kind of suspicious, i really hope that she did not infact make any of this shit up for clout. Anyway the entire "guilty until proven innocent" is kind of dumb
Wait she was his gf for 4 years, went to bed with him, and its rape? And since when is wanting to have a baby considered a fetish. Wtf. This sounds fishy as fuck
@@Neojhun Thank you for being someone that gets it. You get accused of a crime you shut the hell up and get legal representation, anything else is foolish.
@@VenomtheOne dont think so, its been months now and theres been no word of it, obviously they told him to keep quiet, especially if he is guilty, rich's side probably isnt coming out, my guess is hes running off to get away from worse backlash
@@Reo__clips Depends on the state. Some level both charges as the same, some make a distinction. In a technical sense, r is a form of sa, but in common language of course r is much more severe. So whether he faces r or sa charges depends on the state. I'm assuming CA, but I'm not sure what their laws are.
Holy shit I watched Rich a lot when he was playing FF14. Crazy that this is the second time this year an OTK member has been involved in shit like this.
@@AdogFTW 3 other guys, actually. One was Mizkif and CrazySlick for covering up an alledged ( to date) sexual assault and ItsSliker for scamming viewers for thousands of dollars. The sexual assault cases still be proven The scam was proven, but the money were refunded and no charges were pressed.
I understand the world we live it where we are conditioned to just believe what victims say but this is happening everywhere in the scene and I feel it is unfair on both parties for thos to be reported on without statements or evidence from both sides or am I the only one who feels the world has shifted from innocent till proven guilty to just straight guilty on accusations I hope for all involved for the issues to be resolved but speculation and 1 sided reports on these issues just seem to sensationalise the issue at hand I feel it just makes things worse for all parties irrelevant of the outcome
It's not like they report it as breaking news. It has been a week since the accusation. In the beginning of the vid, they did say that Rich has yet to respond. I feel that TheScore did wait an ample amount of time before reporting
@@preslim84 Honestly. It shouldn’t be like this but it seems like every time some high profile person gets accused it’s just a setup to destroy someone’s image. Millions of people who had no relation to Amber Heard mindlessly supported her and slandered Johnny Depp yet when it was proved she was lying they all silently disappeared 😂
@@preslim84 weird timing for her to come out and all the evidence is cut of messages. I learned it pretty fast(discord as example) to never save any messages as it can be used against me without rest of conversation. Like seriously we saw only 2 damn messages lol who seemed just fine .... also were they still in relationship yet she is not comfortable with him( what kind a relationship is that?) i block annoying people who i end relationship ,she does not?. Also she is using a damn twitter for this with delay from time it happened. Probably another Sinatraa version without any hard evidence but verbal testimony ,if you can call it by writing it on twitter ....Girls has done so much damage these years that its hard to believe when they really are telling truth....Got to say thanks to womanhood .
What confuses me about the situation is what's going to happen. At the minute, it is only an allegation, but as we all know, an allegation nowadays is automatically a guilty sentence in the eyes of the public. People should remain neutral until an investigation is complete. If the appropriate authorities aren't involved, then the truth will never come out, and Rich (if innocent) will live the rest of his life knowing that everyone thinks he is a monster, whether it is true or not. Let's all remember the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard trial and that if it didn't happen, an overwhelming majority would still believe Amber Heard over Johnny Depp, but with the Rich-Azali situation, there is no trial, no case, no police, no investigation, and no justice for either side. If OTK has more information, they should really let the public know - considering Azali is getting literal death threats, and Rich is an ex-drug user and could be in a dark place knowing that his life and career are over, regardless of guilt or innocence.
OTK is in no position to reveal whatever they discussed privately, it is up to Rich and how he decides to handle the situation. There's not gonna be a trial nor police involvement this happened a year ago. All we can do is wait for his respond and make our own judgement from there
@@MelonWaterMelon777 It doesn't matter how or if Rich responds because it was so long ago that any evidence is gone, meaning Rich can't defend himself. He can only explain his version of events, which will never be enough to clear his name. It is unfair that Rich needs evidence to disprove these allegations, or his life is over, but Azali doesn't need evidence to accuse. To publically accuse someone of SA without any evidence and with no intentions of bringing in a higher authority sets a dangerous precedent. If the police aren't involved, then OTK needs to act as that higher authority; otherwise, the court of public opinion will, which won't end well because most people have already accepted that Rich is guilty even before hearing his response.
@@IBradFrazer "He can only explain his version of events" That's literally all he has to do. If this accusation is false, the way to combat slander is to tell the truth. If his response make sense the court of public opinion will sway back. If the accusation is true OTK can't act as higher authority and disclose whatever was discussed privately. It's not their story to tell, it's Rich's. They can't put out a statement and say, "Yea he confess to us, he's a r*pist that's why we asked him to resign". Whether he wants to tell the truth/defend himself/double down and lie, it's all up to him and him alone not OTK
@@MelonWaterMelon777 That's not what he has to do. That's all he can do. And since it is purely an accusation with no evidence or higher authority, he shouldn't even have to respond, but not responding makes him look guilty. It is a lose-lose situation for him, and telling the truth isn't that simple when you have to remember everything about a specific night more than a year ago. It isn't up to anyone to tell the story because there is no story without evidence to back up their version of events. It is a game of he-said-she-said without a referee. Unless Rich has hard evidence (which I highly doubt), he is guilty regardless, and that's the problem.
@@IBradFrazer He absolutely has to respond because like you said if he doesn't it makes him guilty by default. If it was false, say it "Her version of the story was false, here's what happened" or whatever. If it was True, own up to it and apologize. Anything is better than radio silence because that's when people start making shit up. "Oh, he's talking to a PR company" "Oh, he's trying to sue her to silence her" etc. It's a lose-lose but if the public find his respond believable, he'll lose less.
I read the twitlonger. That wasn't simply a sexual assault. It sounds like he full blown raped her. If these allegations are true, yeah I hope his career is over.
In no way is what Rich did right in anyway. But if a guy is trying to fuck you downstairs what makes you think shits gunna be different in his apartment? Once again this guy is slime I get that. But I have 5 younger sisters and I tell them all the same thing, not all guys are bad but you got to be careful of the bad ones and the situations you place yourself in. Like for example don’t go party alone with a football team. Bad shit happens in life and victims are not to blame for that, but also personal responsibility exist and don’t place yourself in dumb situations.
Try thinking tveres 0 proof i could say he raped and provide fake dms and it wouldnt be much different apart from that her story has more holes then swiss cheese
Man these SA stories always tear me apart. On one hand, so many innocent people have been accused of SA purely out of spite and on the other hand, so many people traumatised for life in silence because they know no one will believe them. I really do hope we get to hear the real truth out of this.
Wait until all the facts come forward and stop projecting your own life situations or tragic stories you've heard of a friend from a friend, if he is innocent you will look stupid. You would think America would learn not to jump to judgement so quickly after Kavanagh, Depp and Rittenhouse. Do better.
There are multiple victims with similar stories. Even one with him using the theatre excuse before. Asmon confirmed it. Stop defending your r*pist streamer.
@@luisandresmedina1902 right there is nothing to suggest either way at this point. except for her messages BEFORE it took place. neither have streamed since so
you know regardless of if its true or not something like this will never go away he will constantly be bombarded with comments about it. nobody will ever know if the accusations are true or not but his career was done the minute that tweet went out.
Hmm, could be a hunch here but something just feels off about Azalia's story. Terrible analogy I have here but every time I hear the words "pregnant fetish" I don't think of dudes impregnating women, I think it would be similar to that said man simping for pregnant women. For those whom watched "Two and a half men" Alan having a turn on for seeing every pregnant woman walk on by.
So let me get this straight. She knows he's trying to bone from the movie theater incident then proceeded to head up to his apartment.....what did she think was going to happen. It almost like she wanted to create a situation.
I am a Muslim first thing, but i ask all who will read this to be fair and answer the following: If she did not show her body like she always did and STILL with every picture showing her body like she is working in a strip club, would he or most men stop treating her like an object ? What is your value as a human when you auction your body to society for fame and acceptance ? Do you think men will think high of you ? You think for once that any man who would want to have a relationship with you will weight you the way you deserve and should be viewed if you keep showing your body off as it represents you ? Freedom is one thing , but self-respect and taking care of your image is an important part of the process of growing up and seeking self fulfulment. Now, as for Rich , rape is rape , if it was indeed proven that they were not in a relationship when that happened, he is most likely gonna get deleted. But i guess he will use this point as the centre of his response when he posts it.
Rape is more common in the west. Would a Muslim women bring herself to the room of a man she is not married to at night? What did she expect to happen in that room?
I wanted to think Rich was ok since he was friends with Asmon apparently. But when he'd do that maniacal laugh thing while playing FF14 he just seemed so weird and creepy and not in a funny way Edit: just found out Rich is dating a pornstar. What the hell
@@mastershep11n74 never said it was a crime. But yes, if someone laughs weirdly and extra loud at something strange (cartoon cat girls in their underwear) then I'm going to judge that person and assume they have mental problems
Rich commiting SA isn't really that surprising considering how he tells stories of his sexual activities in the past, and well even with mia malkova. So uh yeah, the OTK sex cult conspiracy. monkaS
some woman had consensual sex, then started having regrets because she betrayed her boyfriend and came up with an easy exit. yep never heard that one before
How is it too early? This video is already very late. Rich said he'd give his side and that was 8 days ago. That's already pretty weird. Don't get me wrong I'm sick of fake accusations too but this seems like its already wrapped up. Rich was always creepy and incredibly awkward. He was immediately asked to resign, that right there is almost a confirmation that it's true. The likelihood is he spoke to Asmongold and either confessed, or denied it and Asmon could tell he was lying. If it wasn't true and he intended to take legal action he would likely have been placed on leave at the most.
Comments once again already taking a side before any facts are out. No side has evidence. No side has corroboration. Both sides have a vested interest in a particular result. Wait a month for stuff to come out and then make up your mind, not now weirdos.
@@akitamtrx514 Except that, if no facts come out, it's clearer which side gets the benefit of the doubt, which would be Rich. The burden of proof is on Azalia to prove, to some degree, that her claims have any merit. If she doesn't, it's a clear indicator that she had lied believing the bandwagon effect would be all she needed to cancel Rich and get her 15 minutes of fame. Of course, it's not clear that is the case yet, so time to wait.
For now the only facts are that time and locations have written proof, and we have proof of the pressure the guy kept doing. The only part yet to be proven is the alledged crime.
@@RejectedInch Actually, there hasn't been any proof, I've seen at least, of Rich pressuring Azalia (into anything nefarious) nor of the toxic relationship Azalia claims they had. The texts directly call those claims into question. The Uber receipt she showed really doesn't corroborate much of anything. Even the texts themselves aren't that credible nor substantive. Hopefully she shows more or Rich spills stuff in his end which will make this picture clearer.
Just try to keep in mind - this happened before OTK even formed. It's easy for us to look at a group of people and cast a net, but there's some really nice & good people in that community and it seems to me, they're doing what they should be doing to deal with this situation in the correct way. I can't imagine what it would be like, to find out that one of my boys in my immediate group of friends had done something like this. I know the rest of us would likely give him a free trip to the hospital, but i can't imagine the feeling of betrayal knowing someone i considered a friend was capable of being such a cockroach. Hope the victim can find some closure and doesn't let this situation ruin her future.
except you would at least give them a chance to defend themselves right? like you wouldn't just say oh youre a rapists, *knocks them out* just because another person tweeted about it and didn't like come to anyone in private about it right? You would give due diligence and make sure it isn't made up because they just were mad at them right? especially if they were a close friend of yours for years.
@@mastershep11n74 Sure, but the original, unedited comment just said "Just try to keep in mind - this happened before OTK even formed". People can't just change the comment after others have replied to it and act like those replies are addressing the edit.
she's been getting harassed nonstop since the news went public too, i can't understand what would bring a person to have that level of hate in their heart where they feel like attacking a potential victim is a logical thing to do
Because if the tables were turned it wouldn't matter, what if he's a victim of slander? Would that change the dynamic? What if she's lying and he's having his reputation ruined
@@EladOSRS That's alot of "what-if". I don't agree with the "Believe all women" but that doesn't automatically make all accusation false. Harassment of either side should not happen. Now all we can do is wait to hear his side of the story.
Don't know much about otk so take my opinion with a grain of salt but as a big asmongold fan i don't see otk being a benefit to him at all. First the mischif slicker situation and now this honestly asmon should just do his own thing becouse he is clearly much more mature and well adjusted than anyone else in otk atleast that i know of with my limited knowledge
Asmon only cares about Asmon, let's not pretend he's doing anything other than pushing this drama away from himself with a 10 foot pole for his own benefit. Hey, I'm not hating. I get it, and not saying I wouldn't do the same. But, acting like Asmon is being noble or a good guy or whatever, lol, yeah right.
I dont want to be an ass, but I always thought there was something extremely off about RIch. He almost seemed a little too aggressive in everything he was a part of; conversations, videos, ect. I am sad to see that he allegedly did this, and i hope otk recovers.
Did she call the Police? Did she scream? Did she try to escape? Did she try to fight him off? is there any evidence of the assault? ... otherwise she is a liar and she's making serious false accusations with big impact on his life.
All I learned thru the mizkif and rich debacle is that otk is not even run or owned by any of the streamers, miz was taken off for his "callous disregard of the severity of sexual misconduct and racial prejudice"????? Done supporting a faceless org
Saying "pregnancy fetish" makes it sound as if wanting kids is unnatural, really a confusion of values or lack of communication between them considering their decisions could change over time. Impregnation through sex is the primal urge that drived live to prosper and rape is widespread in nature, it is a humane trait to be civilized and consensual. Even animals can behave less like beasts, so can we.
Until the other side of the story is told I don't believe either of them, she only has is a few phone messages that's not enough, her word against his let the courts decide
@@SKULLKR3W except they dont? or else it would be cut and dry. It's not hense why he hasn't said anything and why we don't see him in the news arrested for rape. And on another note, in this day and age talking to a lawyer is evidence for being guilty? uhh no. There's enough allegations that have been false and these serious allegations need to be handled carefully. So talking with a lawyer and not jumping the gun and telling the world information about it is probably the smartest thing to do. He also doesn't want any more heat going to asmon so he is keeping quiet about it. Not an auto guilty.
@@VenomtheOne messages are literally evidence…LMAO like what do y’all want from her a video of her getting raped from the back? Did y’all expect her to be wire tapped? Do you want to see her rape kit? Lmao just be real y’all don’t give a fuck if she was raped or not just as long as ur precious streamer is safe and if the courts decide he’s guilty y’all would still say she’s lying..
I'm glad Azalia came forward. I've been in a situation very much like she was in. I met a guy who seemed to be really into me and we flirted a lot, then one day he asked me on a date. I ended up falling for him, and we hooked up a couple of times. Then he made it known he wasn't looking for a relationship and I was like, ok cool. Stayed friends but kept my distance. Then he would show up at the restaurant I worked at and make a public show of hugging me, trying to kiss me, like we were a couple. I was polite, but inside I was screaming. Like who the fk does that. The last straw was when he got me in a text convo one night...then saying he just got a new bed and I should come see it. At 2am. Gtfo. Some guys are just pushy af when they realize there's a nice girl that's so into them, so they'll see just how far they can take it. Sickening.
except where's the rape? and you consented to that kind of relationship without telling him otherwise or stating any boundaries. maybe next time don't use this as an example
Man I never liked the guy but I didn’t expect something like this from him. Ik he always has the worst takes on everything but if this is true, this man is literally criminally insane.
Man I know they're allegations but this dude always acted kinda weird to me. There are compilations and posts of his odd behavior in regards to relationships and stuff online. I hope this turns out to not be entirely true but Jesus man...wtf. Personally if I had to guess I'm gonna say it's probably unfortunately true....due to his bizarre interactions and reactions to women and relationships with them. I hope I'm wrong but why would she say this shit knowing how dedicated and wild online fanbases can be...unless she was telling the truth. She isn't gonna get clout for it...and the Rich stans will send her bullshit...and she knows that for sure..even before posting this. So....idk. If she's not telling the truth this dude just basically lost a job and part in that Org for no reason. :/ Edit: Also this isn't just harassment...he had sex without her consent according to the allegations...that is by definition "rape".
Did he push her onto a bed and rape her or what her description is kind of vague, not that I'm defending rich. But he was "trying to take her cloths off" then suddenly" he rolled me over and went inside" um ok so was he successful in taking your cloths off? Did he rip the panta down, or did she pull them down? Usually when people withhold specific details like that it's kind of suspicious, like they aren't telling the full truth. My conclusions is she didn't want it but she kept succumbing to his persistence and then regretted it after.
Warning. Warning. Internet violation detected. Must believe all criminal allegations made on internet. Must not question why person did not sign a criminal complaint under penalty of perjury. Must not wait for accused to speak. Must end person's life and career on the word of someone you don't know.
allegation /ˌalɪˈɡeɪʃn/ plural noun: allegations a claim or assertion that someone has done something illegal or wrong, typically one made without proof.
Asmongold is a nice guy, I sincerely think he's a good person, but don't forget he's also a millionaire who has been leading businesses in this space for years now, he obviously got at least general PR training, most likely also has some PR service he can call for scenarios like this. He used very precise wording in his stream
@@beck6722 In general, you commit the crime of "R" if you have non-consensual sexual intercourse with another person by means of physical force or threats. By contrast, you commit the offense of sexual assault if you make sexual contact with a person, as in touching a person’s intimate parts, without that person’s consent.
If I had a nickle for everytime a member of OTK got accused of sexual harrassment this year I'd have two nickles. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice
You have a couple of nickels in your back pocket that you’re trying to hide too
who was the other member accused of sexual assault?
@@EgoFrog miskif
@@Thisisadream17 damn that’s deep… who knows though , could be right .
@@EgoFrog miz's best friend Crazyslick was the one who did it Miz was covering for him at the time
Asmongold single handedly carrying OTK. I don't always agree with his opinions but in moments like these he shows time and time again how emotionally mature he really is, and that's something I respect a ton about him.
Yeah I used to really strongly dislike the community he had and how he acted in general, I can't even remember why exactly because it's been some time lol. But honestly I really respect the man now, he seems so much more mature than most of society these days and it's a breath of fresh air
Hopefully this ages well. Expect the unexpected
triggered by BatChest emote = mature LULE
Ditching your friend over baseless twitlonger accusations to save the brand just screams "mature" so much lol.. Try a word "spineless" next time.
@@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU Yeah because this woman gains so much from making up a story about a streamer with an average viewership of 7k... book deal and millions for sure! Not to mention the weird Rich clips of him acting like a total jackass in front of female casters and streamers... no red flags at all. Asmongold did what any sane person would do and distanced the company he worked on from the drama and the person associated with it. If Rich is innocent people will support him..including his friends.
inb4 Rich goes to Japan like Mizkif after sharing "his side of the story"
In a court of law, you need evidence to support your claim. In a court of public opinion, you need only make an accusation.
Yep
Shouldn’t people not take either side until more of the facts come out about what happened? Jumping to conclusions one way or another isn’t good. Blindly trying to protect one side or the other isn’t brave or commendable it’s stupid.
I don't think OTK nor asmongold stands on any side on this, they simple removed Rich from OTK to avoid getting backfire from the public. wich in my eyes at least is quite logical.
That’s what I been saying… it’s almost as if guilt until proven innocent skipped in concepts of judgement…
@@ihrstan true but it’s also says something about how they value rich…
@@ihrstan He decided to resign because it makes OTK look bad either way. So it was a decision on both sides. Rich isn't stupid so he knows how this looks, and when he is good and ready he will say something on it. He is probably gathering his own evidence and talking with a lawyer, which is probably telling him to say nothing until they can either have the accuser self destruct with their lies, (if it is lies) or until they are good and ready for an apology and will turn themselves in. OR until they can disprove it. Just because someone felt regret after having sex, it doesn't mean it is rape. And if it is rape then the rest will be handled by the law.
@@mrpumperknuckles1631 No it says something about how they value their business. It is business and it is removed from friendship. They all worked super hard for this, and there are many people who want to see them fail because a lot of people hate asmongold. But he is untouchable because...well he doesn't go outside like at all. So People will go after his weaknesses. His socialable (sort of) friends. The awkward nerds who can get women because of their money, but they can't deal with situations like this and can easily be manipulated. Or accused of things. It happens a lot in the gaming world. And Girl streamers are the most manipulative of all the women I have dealt with. That's not saying that this didn't happen, but Always take this shit with a grain of salt. Until the people whoi are equipped to deal with situations like these can gather the evidence and present an actual case you should never be on either side. Sure you can always support either one through their struggle with this. And if it didn't happen then you supported the wrong person, or if it did happen you supported the wrong person. But you supported someone because you believed in them. So believe who you want, but NEVER discredit or ostracize the other party until you have concrete evidence of the other's wrongdoing.
I thought Rich's slimy bro persona was an act, but I guess that's just who he really is
He spent too much time perfecting the persona and became it
Nah it was obvious, I don’t remember a single positive clip ever from him
believe all women right? lul
@@preslim84 not what was said but hes def a slimeball
@@preslim84 stop salivating over Campbell's dck. There is proof about the allegations and he has always been a cringy weirdo (your rolemodel I imagine)
Crazy that gaming houses are turning into something really negative... I used to really dream of living in a house like that but now it feels like a drama spawner.
Honestly stuff like that should just be summer and winter holiday houses. Then throughout the year, people have their personal space, and can defuse rather than having tensions build up constantly
It's a lot like working at a game store. It sounds like a dream on the surface but the reality of it is way worst. Speaking from experience on that one too.
Otk is not gaming house though, its basically a group of individual streamer merging together to make shows, products (merchandise), business together. They're a company at this point
AOV Pro Player from Nepal here. No, not every "gaming house"(we call it bootcamp/training facility here has drama. Most of the top esports orgs bootcamps/training facilities are literally like an office with work, meeting and dining rooms. Everything is done super professionally. You can't expect "Professional Streamers" to have professionality in "Gaming Houses". Its not like they literally have a company to run like professional orgs and CEOs to cater to the investors/stakeholders/sponsors. Never ever generalize in anything.
@@blushingralseiuwu2222 so exactly what a gaming house is lol
I really appreciate these more serious type videos which are somewhat more informative and analytic. I remember the old days like during the Echo Fox stuff, and I realize its likely not a valid business strategy for youtube, I would love to see more long form videos or series of videos like those, especially over something like the recent Smash/Panda Cup controversy
Looks like there was a Major update. Rich is suing her.
also to make sure I understand... the "evidence" for the alleged assault was that there were text messages confirming that they hung out that day?
that is the only evidence. Just texts saying that she did feel uncomfortable, but nothing about her texting him saying he was an asshole and he raped her or anything after. Just the stuff about them hanging out. Then a couple days later and a long ass tweet about it.
@Mastershep11n7 I see. I also noticed how she said "what do I have to gain from lying about it" idk how about revenge on an x and millions of people learning your name who would have otherwise never known she existed.
I feel like we get one of these videos every week
I hate how often they legitimately need to preface a video with that content warning. Not that it isn't necessary, it absolutely is. I just hate that it keeps happening to people.
Streaming is a messy business, it means dealing with, managing and working with other *people*. I am pretty sure that this is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to gamer streaming.
@@DuvJones the last part of what you said worries me even more
@@feltyone
It scares me too, if I am being blunt.
Because we do, me too movement never stops
The, for lack of a better term, “trigger warning” on this video was very good and well spoken
Happened in an apartment building right? Try to see if they got security footage with help of police. Tweeting about it is not gonna punish the assailant
Pretty sure it happened in his room, not the actual apartment theater.
police most likely won't help too little actual "evidence", rape cases have a reaaally low chance of actually leading to an arrest
and it depends entirely on how long ago it was, they dont store footage for long in regular apartments
@@Upgraderednight it happened in his room but on the way to his room? Didn’t she say he was already saying things in the elevator?
Why would they have a camera inside his apartment? Anything else doesn’t matter because Rich isn’t just gonna lie about if she was there or not.
So...... This thing happened and she waits over a year to say anything about it when conveniently there's not going to be any evidence available of it. Yeah sure okay, not buying it.
If I was a girl I wouldn't see a movie alone with a man after midnight and then go up to his place after unless I wanted to sleep with him
it sounded like she didnt have a place to stay
@@barrmane1141she says she was staying with a friend. Who she called after the supposed rape and since it was late at night. Her friend was not answering.
Unless this is bring up to court, why even bother with either sides when they both can say whatever they want.
You already know
Exactly, it's like, oh since she is a girl, lets throw Rich under the bus without even hearing his side. I'm not calling the girl a liar at all, but we can't jump to conclusions from one sided story, especially without ANY evidence..... This modern age of burn first and have a trial later, is getting way out of hand. People really believe what they are told without actually debating it anymore, and it's getting quite scary. Like we saw this with Pro- Jared. Everyone came out and burned the poor guy to the ground and it turns out he did nothing wrong when he revealed his side of the story WITH the evidence.... For all we know, Rich and this girl could've had an argument, or falling out, and there is MUCH more going on than we even considered.
yeah. Any one of us can say someone sexually assaulted us. That's why they are allegations BUT they are still very, very destructive and could literally ruin someones life.
@@alexandrevincenot6546 bingo.
Casey Anthony went to court and clearly killed her daughter. But she walks free.
Something doesn't need to go to court to be true. But apparently more women have come out to OTK, and I'll happily disregard Rich until he makes a statement.
It's a bit odd when it's currently just allegations and yet everyone jumps to immediately cannibalise their friend in exchange for clickbait. I found it very strange when Asmongold talked about not taking one side automatically while simultaneously taking the side of the accuser by disassociating himself with his friend.
Perhaps rich just come clean to him. thing is if one of the closest friend drop him so fast, there might be some truth to it.
Rich was dropped from the org, it doesn't mean he no longer associates with him or considers him a friend. Twitch is a business, and for Asmon and the other members of OTK, said organization is an extension of that business.
Rich remaining in that organization would've been horrible for business. The closest thing Asmon did to "disassociating with Rich" and "taking a side" is telling the people that are ridiculing the accuser that they're not doing him any favors or on his side.
He handled it like any responsible adult would, and it shouldn't be that surprising.
@@sirdamned9272 but that's not op's point. He is saying, verbally, asmon took a side. While telling people not to take sides until there's more info.
@@reaperofzombies9698 Probably because he knows much more. He was encouraging them to see an officer.
maybe he knows something you don't, captain
Ngl he probably had one of the best vibes out of the otk group, compared to slick at least who from the start looked shady. this did catch me off guard ngl hella disappointing and sad to hear. Glad she stepped forward, hopefully more will come forward thanks to this
Wdym he always seemed slimy and weird
Of everyone I know in OTK, he seems like the most likely to do this shit lmao how is it surprising? It's more of 'wow it took this long?'
He was one of the most unlikeable people apart of that cringe cult💀
Guys this is an ai. Stop.
@@thewallpersonified3152you know that if things turn around and turns out she lied, you probably have to delete this whole account right?
This is a talk to my lawyer moment, rather than a tweet chasing clout.
good statement from Asmonguy. idk anything about him really but that was the right move
*asmongold haha
asmon speech was absolute sht
He says don't say she lying, cause we don't know and we need both sides to tell the story.
But he fires the guy bafore we know if it happenned and did hear both sides.
@@skywillfindyou Rich resigned on his own after the allegations. Asmon did not personally fire him.
@@skywillfindyou Asmon explicitly said he knew more information from what OTK learned after the story came out. Rich also said he'd tell his side but he didn't deny any claims. There are many cases where it's important to wait for more information before acting but this is not one of those. Asmon feels very strongly about being reasonable until you can see the big picture. When even he's not defending someone he's been friends with for years that pretty much means the situation is close to concrete. When stuff happened with Mizkif the treatment of it was extremely different.
@@skywillfindyou Rich was not just a streamer but partly an owner in the organization. The organization could lose sponsorships if one of it's owners is facing these accusation. As far as I know Zack can't "fire the guy" but the several other owners can collectively ask Rich to step down before seeking other methods.
Fetishes are fine. Doing shit consensually is the only way, no means no. Wouldn’t surprise me if someone does shit like that, just disappointing that people can’t comprehend boundaries.
I mean, guys have fetishes, if they were close he probably told her and i could see it being used against him now.
Everybody fucking acts as if they dont have some kind of fetish like that, come the fuck on.
Exactly. I know a friend who has pregnancy fetish but like any functioning adults they keep their hands to themselves.
I dont follow this stuff at all but this kind if screams BS
They have relationship for years it ends she feels uncomfortable around him then willingly goes to see him alone she again willingly goes up to his apartment to spend the night
Once in the apartment something happens we don't know what they could have just had an argument or her accusations can be true
Point being it just seems fishy and we all know how often females throw around false allegations just out of spite
I don't know if he is innocent or not, but most bad people comprehend boundaries, they just don't care.
I am always in two minds about videos like this. I feel for the victim but we all need to remember that we are all innocent until proven guilty. So as well as not attacking the person who has come forward the same needs to go for the accused.
one of the most important statements Asmongold made was to flat out say "This isn't drama, this is a crime". and explained that this situation shouldnt be farmed for content
yet this video covers it like drama, and they probably shouldve included that statement from asmon
It's a crime, IF it's true. Otherwise, it is drama.
alleged crime
After Amber Heard and xQc's gf, i dont trust any female's words.
3:30 Just read the quote fully when you say quote. Leaving out the word “awful” in this context is subtle but is still omission.
I'm not saying she's lying, but what happened to innocent till proven guilty. Dude gets dropped before she even filed a police report.
Well he's not in court. The Org's decisions are completely up to their own discretion. Asmon was speaking about it as if he knew more so there's that
Well, this is not court. He got fired from his company, which just acts in its own free market interests
Otks decision to drop him immediately is telling since they dropped Miz just for being a friend of a weirdo.
From a business standpoint it's not good to be associated with those kind of allegations. If she does turn out to be lying, which to be clear, is an extremely small amount of rape allegations then he is welcome to rejoin OTK. Always believe the victim. They genuinely have no reason to lie about this shit. If they do they are horrible human beings who are contributing to this exact problem where there is always skepticism when someone publicly comes out about being raped.
@@samaldag478 "always believe a victim" is basically choosing a side before anyone says anything lol. Thats not how justice should work.
That's really sad to hear
"I kept saying no, and then he rolled me over and put himself inside me"
Yeah I'm sure nothing was left out between there.
I’ve always thought rich was incredibly sus and wasn’t surprised in the slightest when I first saw the allegations, but after reading the victim’s story there are a few things that don’t add up to me. Why even put yourself in that situation if you say yourself you don’t trust him not to do something creepy? I’m interested to see both sides.
The two of them were on and off friends and partners for four years in a toxic relationship. At this point they were still friends after splitting up (at least in her head they were just friends, Rich clearly wanted to sleep with her but she kept giving him second chances). She may have thought he wanted to sleep with her but chances are she never thought he would do anything like he allegedly did
It does remind me of the time i met a dealer on the station he seemed really crappy but he told me he loved me and made me feel good about myself so i went in his house and then when he started playing with knives i layed next to him om the bed but then he suddenly stabbed me 300 times out of nowhere i had no idea it was coming and certainly didnt approve of it, i thought we was just gonna smoke his shit and watch some sesamestreet.. nocap
@@bilibilil true. Never trust a creature that has 2 heads but enough blood only to run the head located in the crotch. Like you, for example.
@@floydstash 😂
This is the thing. Rich needs to say something about it cause otherwise its just her word against nothing and while I would like to believe her she could just be making shit up we dont know for sure.
We'll be sure to wait till all of the information is on before making any conclusions. Let her have her day in court.
It would have been much simpler if she " had" taken it to court.....probably 0 physical evidence beyond the texts.....not saying she is lying....but its way to long ago for physical evidence.....unfortunately he would need to prove the opposite if he wants to ever go back to streaming
scary times we live in for a man when you can lose everything on just an accusation before being found guilty of any crime
Scary times we live in for a woman who is assaulted to tell the world and gets death threats.
@@AA-bk1oe there's always 2 sides, 1 doesn't take away from the other
@@AA-bk1oe Women aren't special. They need evidence for their accusations just like the rest of us.
@@AA-bk1oe oh no not the horrible death threats that are never anything but bullshit whatever are we ganna do cuz someone said words to her😮 how will she go on with someone emailing her😢 I’m sure they are all ganna show up any time now lmao get real those death threats have always and will always be nothing
don't confuse the legal principle with the moral principle. Legally NO ONE can be called " criminal" untill a judge passes a sentence and that's the law too. Morally anyone can look at the situation and decide to dissociate from the accused person, in particular if there's business involved. The 2 priciple are separate from each other, no one is obligated to remain associated with anyone, regardless the ruling of a judge.
I really wanna hear Rich's Side, idk why but i dont take SA accustions lightly but her story doesnt add up, also noticed how her views were at an all time low and her twitter also not getting much traffic, kind of suspicious, i really hope that she did not infact make any of this shit up for clout. Anyway the entire "guilty until proven innocent" is kind of dumb
Wait she was his gf for 4 years, went to bed with him, and its rape? And since when is wanting to have a baby considered a fetish. Wtf. This sounds fishy as fuck
The more you hear about OTK, the more it sounds like a spin off series from 'Promising young woman'
Did Rich ever tell his side of the story? Shouldn't have taken too long to do that.
why not ??
wouldn't u try to handle this situation very carefully ?
@@luisandresmedina1902 Most rich people handle them realistically. AKA don’t give a single shit if its not real
Yes it does, he should be consulting with a lawyer. This could get into legal issues.
That's because there are multiple victims coming forward now. Asmon himself confirmed it.
@@Neojhun Thank you for being someone that gets it. You get accused of a crime you shut the hell up and get legal representation, anything else is foolish.
Innocent until proven guilty. I'm waiting for Rich's side of the story to come out.
still waiting?
@@NatalieV0331 eh, I think his lawyers ordered him to keep quiet, I dunno. But yeah, I am.
@@VenomtheOne dont think so, its been months now and theres been no word of it, obviously they told him to keep quiet, especially if he is guilty, rich's side probably isnt coming out, my guess is hes running off to get away from worse backlash
@@NatalieV0331 how can he defend himself really? no one has evidence so he is guilty in the public eye. guilty or not, hes fucked here.
uh the allegations are for straight up rhymes with grape
Exactly, that's not assault that's way further.
@@Reo__clips Depends on the state. Some level both charges as the same, some make a distinction. In a technical sense, r is a form of sa, but in common language of course r is much more severe.
So whether he faces r or sa charges depends on the state. I'm assuming CA, but I'm not sure what their laws are.
@@TherapyGel Exactly. And then there was also the involuntary exposure beforehand that was explained.
@@TherapyGel it happened in New York, so New York State will have jurisdiction over the case
@@Reo__clips wtf do you think assault means?
Holy shit I watched Rich a lot when he was playing FF14. Crazy that this is the second time this year an OTK member has been involved in shit like this.
Cult
Who was the other guy?
@@AdogFTW 3 other guys, actually. One was Mizkif and CrazySlick for covering up an alledged ( to date) sexual assault and ItsSliker for scamming viewers for thousands of dollars. The sexual assault cases still be proven The scam was proven, but the money were refunded and no charges were pressed.
You know its a serious video if they don't ask you to like and subscribe
jeez..... lmao
strange no one is talking about it in lsf ?
Asmongold is typically such a goofy persona that seeing him legitimately angry and/or sad hurts even more
well yeah, imagine if your dream has the potential to be ruined by a person who was one of your closest friends, i would be sad and angry too tbh.
I understand the world we live it where we are conditioned to just believe what victims say but this is happening everywhere in the scene and I feel it is unfair on both parties for thos to be reported on without statements or evidence from both sides or am I the only one who feels the world has shifted from innocent till proven guilty to just straight guilty on accusations I hope for all involved for the issues to be resolved but speculation and 1 sided reports on these issues just seem to sensationalise the issue at hand I feel it just makes things worse for all parties irrelevant of the outcome
It's not like they report it as breaking news. It has been a week since the accusation. In the beginning of the vid, they did say that Rich has yet to respond. I feel that TheScore did wait an ample amount of time before reporting
This whole rich stuff happend 10 months ago?? It feels like it‘s 1,5 years ago.
There should be a formal investigation about this
crazy how people just believe allegations with no evidence these days
@@preslim84 Honestly. It shouldn’t be like this but it seems like every time some high profile person gets accused it’s just a setup to destroy someone’s image. Millions of people who had no relation to Amber Heard mindlessly supported her and slandered Johnny Depp yet when it was proved she was lying they all silently disappeared 😂
@@preslim84 thats western culture for you
and literally the girl sells explicit photos online for her popularity and people want to respect her? -_-
@@preslim84 weird timing for her to come out and all the evidence is cut of messages. I learned it pretty fast(discord as example) to never save any messages as it can be used against me without rest of conversation. Like seriously we saw only 2 damn messages lol who seemed just fine .... also were they still in relationship yet she is not comfortable with him( what kind a relationship is that?) i block annoying people who i end relationship ,she does not?. Also she is using a damn twitter for this with delay from time it happened. Probably another Sinatraa version without any hard evidence but verbal testimony ,if you can call it by writing it on twitter ....Girls has done so much damage these years that its hard to believe when they really are telling truth....Got to say thanks to womanhood .
What confuses me about the situation is what's going to happen. At the minute, it is only an allegation, but as we all know, an allegation nowadays is automatically a guilty sentence in the eyes of the public. People should remain neutral until an investigation is complete. If the appropriate authorities aren't involved, then the truth will never come out, and Rich (if innocent) will live the rest of his life knowing that everyone thinks he is a monster, whether it is true or not. Let's all remember the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard trial and that if it didn't happen, an overwhelming majority would still believe Amber Heard over Johnny Depp, but with the Rich-Azali situation, there is no trial, no case, no police, no investigation, and no justice for either side. If OTK has more information, they should really let the public know - considering Azali is getting literal death threats, and Rich is an ex-drug user and could be in a dark place knowing that his life and career are over, regardless of guilt or innocence.
OTK is in no position to reveal whatever they discussed privately, it is up to Rich and how he decides to handle the situation. There's not gonna be a trial nor police involvement this happened a year ago. All we can do is wait for his respond and make our own judgement from there
@@MelonWaterMelon777 It doesn't matter how or if Rich responds because it was so long ago that any evidence is gone, meaning Rich can't defend himself. He can only explain his version of events, which will never be enough to clear his name. It is unfair that Rich needs evidence to disprove these allegations, or his life is over, but Azali doesn't need evidence to accuse. To publically accuse someone of SA without any evidence and with no intentions of bringing in a higher authority sets a dangerous precedent. If the police aren't involved, then OTK needs to act as that higher authority; otherwise, the court of public opinion will, which won't end well because most people have already accepted that Rich is guilty even before hearing his response.
@@IBradFrazer "He can only explain his version of events" That's literally all he has to do. If this accusation is false, the way to combat slander is to tell the truth. If his response make sense the court of public opinion will sway back.
If the accusation is true OTK can't act as higher authority and disclose whatever was discussed privately. It's not their story to tell, it's Rich's. They can't put out a statement and say, "Yea he confess to us, he's a r*pist that's why we asked him to resign".
Whether he wants to tell the truth/defend himself/double down and lie, it's all up to him and him alone not OTK
@@MelonWaterMelon777 That's not what he has to do. That's all he can do. And since it is purely an accusation with no evidence or higher authority, he shouldn't even have to respond, but not responding makes him look guilty. It is a lose-lose situation for him, and telling the truth isn't that simple when you have to remember everything about a specific night more than a year ago. It isn't up to anyone to tell the story because there is no story without evidence to back up their version of events. It is a game of he-said-she-said without a referee. Unless Rich has hard evidence (which I highly doubt), he is guilty regardless, and that's the problem.
@@IBradFrazer He absolutely has to respond because like you said if he doesn't it makes him guilty by default. If it was false, say it "Her version of the story was false, here's what happened" or whatever. If it was True, own up to it and apologize. Anything is better than radio silence because that's when people start making shit up. "Oh, he's talking to a PR company" "Oh, he's trying to sue her to silence her" etc. It's a lose-lose but if the public find his respond believable, he'll lose less.
I never expected otk downfall will be this early
I read the twitlonger. That wasn't simply a sexual assault. It sounds like he full blown raped her. If these allegations are true, yeah I hope his career is over.
Kudos to the score eSports for speaking about this issues in such a professional way!
In no way is what Rich did right in anyway. But if a guy is trying to fuck you downstairs what makes you think shits gunna be different in his apartment? Once again this guy is slime I get that. But I have 5 younger sisters and I tell them all the same thing, not all guys are bad but you got to be careful of the bad ones and the situations you place yourself in. Like for example don’t go party alone with a football team. Bad shit happens in life and victims are not to blame for that, but also personal responsibility exist and don’t place yourself in dumb situations.
Also kind of strange she would go there at 1 am with seemingly no way to get home
@@Steve_R418 jup. Her story contradicts itself.
She states went there to chat and not stay.
THEN states she wanted to stay, but he kicked her out.
What ??? Dude I used to crack tf up from watching Rich. Shit is crazy. I don't know what to think
Try thinking tveres 0 proof i could say he raped and provide fake dms and it wouldnt be much different apart from that her story has more holes then swiss cheese
Man these SA stories always tear me apart. On one hand, so many innocent people have been accused of SA purely out of spite and on the other hand, so many people traumatised for life in silence because they know no one will believe them. I really do hope we get to hear the real truth out of this.
so did they ever find out if she was lying or not?
Today was announced that he is suing for defamation, to the tune of 3.6 million dollars
@@DeadLineGame Any update?
@@MrRADicalOfficial she counter sued and it seems Rich has testimonies that could clear his name
That's one of the least surprising news regarding streames I have ever seen.
Wait until all the facts come forward and stop projecting your own life situations or tragic stories you've heard of a friend from a friend, if he is innocent you will look stupid. You would think America would learn not to jump to judgement so quickly after Kavanagh, Depp and Rittenhouse. Do better.
all things fair, but if Rich turns out to be innocent I hope she gets a sentence twice as long for lying
doesn't look like a fake allegations
@@dirtydeeds300 what does that even mean? "doesn't look like fake" ??
There are multiple victims with similar stories. Even one with him using the theatre excuse before. Asmon confirmed it. Stop defending your r*pist streamer.
@@luisandresmedina1902 right there is nothing to suggest either way at this point. except for her messages BEFORE it took place. neither have streamed since so
They never do.
Dude just disappeared on the face of the Earth
you know regardless of if its true or not something like this will never go away he will constantly be bombarded with comments about it. nobody will ever know if the accusations are true or not but his career was done the minute that tweet went out.
Hmm, could be a hunch here but something just feels off about Azalia's story. Terrible analogy I have here but every time I hear the words "pregnant fetish" I don't think of dudes impregnating women, I think it would be similar to that said man simping for pregnant women. For those whom watched "Two and a half men" Alan having a turn on for seeing every pregnant woman walk on by.
So let me get this straight. She knows he's trying to bone from the movie theater incident then proceeded to head up to his apartment.....what did she think was going to happen. It almost like she wanted to create a situation.
I am a Muslim first thing, but i ask all who will read this to be fair and answer the following:
If she did not show her body like she always did and STILL with every picture showing her body like she is working in a strip club, would he or most men stop treating her like an object ?
What is your value as a human when you auction your body to society for fame and acceptance ? Do you think men will think high of you ?
You think for once that any man who would want to have a relationship with you will weight you the way you deserve and should be viewed if you keep showing your body off as it represents you ?
Freedom is one thing , but self-respect and taking care of your image is an important part of the process of growing up and seeking self fulfulment.
Now, as for Rich , rape is rape , if it was indeed proven that they were not in a relationship when that happened, he is most likely gonna get deleted.
But i guess he will use this point as the centre of his response when he posts it.
Rape is more common in the west. Would a Muslim women bring herself to the room of a man she is not married to at night? What did she expect to happen in that room?
I wanted to think Rich was ok since he was friends with Asmon apparently. But when he'd do that maniacal laugh thing while playing FF14 he just seemed so weird and creepy and not in a funny way
Edit: just found out Rich is dating a pornstar. What the hell
Saw some his clips. Seems the guy has issue
Yeah, begs the question why he needs to "abuse" some no name girl, when he is dating Mia. Makes no sense.
@@shutup1037 so laughing is a crime now? Thats how he laughs.
@@mastershep11n74 never said it was a crime. But yes, if someone laughs weirdly and extra loud at something strange (cartoon cat girls in their underwear) then I'm going to judge that person and assume they have mental problems
Tomorrow will be 3 weeks since the allegations, and Rich has not denied anything nor made any statements since.
Maybe his lawyer recommended that, you know? Everything he says now can be used against him, or taken out of context
What's the song name through out the whole video? It's very calming.
Now that his simps wont defend him, he got carried as fuck un ults lmao. I was shouting it from the start but people are sheep.
mad he cleared ULTIMATES and you haven’t 😂
@@andy-xz2uk I queued, he got carried. paid for in clout.
Rich commiting SA isn't really that surprising considering how he tells stories of his sexual activities in the past, and well even with mia malkova.
So uh yeah, the OTK sex cult conspiracy. monkaS
some woman had consensual sex, then started having regrets because she betrayed her boyfriend and came up with an easy exit. yep never heard that one before
Too early to make this video, we need to hear what both parties have to say
How is it too early? This video is already very late. Rich said he'd give his side and that was 8 days ago. That's already pretty weird. Don't get me wrong I'm sick of fake accusations too but this seems like its already wrapped up. Rich was always creepy and incredibly awkward. He was immediately asked to resign, that right there is almost a confirmation that it's true. The likelihood is he spoke to Asmongold and either confessed, or denied it and Asmon could tell he was lying. If it wasn't true and he intended to take legal action he would likely have been placed on leave at the most.
Not enough evidence.
What did she try to accomplish with that tweet? Why not just report the assault to authorities?
first Miz and now Rich, in the end we will only have asmongold and esfand left in OTK
Comments once again already taking a side before any facts are out.
No side has evidence. No side has corroboration. Both sides have a vested interest in a particular result.
Wait a month for stuff to come out and then make up your mind, not now weirdos.
its a she said he said. there wont ever be any facts.
@@akitamtrx514 Except that, if no facts come out, it's clearer which side gets the benefit of the doubt, which would be Rich. The burden of proof is on Azalia to prove, to some degree, that her claims have any merit. If she doesn't, it's a clear indicator that she had lied believing the bandwagon effect would be all she needed to cancel Rich and get her 15 minutes of fame. Of course, it's not clear that is the case yet, so time to wait.
For now the only facts are that time and locations have written proof, and we have proof of the pressure the guy kept doing. The only part yet to be proven is the alledged crime.
@@RejectedInch Actually, there hasn't been any proof, I've seen at least, of Rich pressuring Azalia (into anything nefarious) nor of the toxic relationship Azalia claims they had. The texts directly call those claims into question.
The Uber receipt she showed really doesn't corroborate much of anything. Even the texts themselves aren't that credible nor substantive. Hopefully she shows more or Rich spills stuff in his end which will make this picture clearer.
Just try to keep in mind - this happened before OTK even formed. It's easy for us to look at a group of people and cast a net, but there's some really nice & good people in that community and it seems to me, they're doing what they should be doing to deal with this situation in the correct way. I can't imagine what it would be like, to find out that one of my boys in my immediate group of friends had done something like this. I know the rest of us would likely give him a free trip to the hospital, but i can't imagine the feeling of betrayal knowing someone i considered a friend was capable of being such a cockroach. Hope the victim can find some closure and doesn't let this situation ruin her future.
This happened in 2021. OTK formed in 2020...
This happend a year after OTK was formed. Stop protecting your streamer. 😊
FAIL
except you would at least give them a chance to defend themselves right? like you wouldn't just say oh youre a rapists, *knocks them out* just because another person tweeted about it and didn't like come to anyone in private about it right? You would give due diligence and make sure it isn't made up because they just were mad at them right?
especially if they were a close friend of yours for years.
@@mastershep11n74 Sure, but the original, unedited comment just said "Just try to keep in mind - this happened before OTK even formed". People can't just change the comment after others have replied to it and act like those replies are addressing the edit.
she's been getting harassed nonstop since the news went public too, i can't understand what would bring a person to have that level of hate in their heart where they feel like attacking a potential victim is a logical thing to do
Because if the tables were turned it wouldn't matter, what if he's a victim of slander? Would that change the dynamic? What if she's lying and he's having his reputation ruined
because she's an onlyfans cam girl, outside of the west, those type of girls are not given any sort of respect
Honestly, as someone who interact with OTK audicance (discord and twitch chat) there's a shit ton of incels in there.
@@EladOSRS That's alot of "what-if". I don't agree with the "Believe all women" but that doesn't automatically make all accusation false. Harassment of either side should not happen. Now all we can do is wait to hear his side of the story.
She has her OF on twitter, so people were saying she's using this to get more people to click her twitter, and thus click and sub to her OF.
Lmao it happened 2 years ago and she never made a police report or told anyone... Sounds legit and totally not a clout chase
Don't know much about otk so take my opinion with a grain of salt but as a big asmongold fan i don't see otk being a benefit to him at all. First the mischif slicker situation and now this honestly asmon should just do his own thing becouse he is clearly much more mature and well adjusted than anyone else in otk atleast that i know of with my limited knowledge
But we have to remember to be fair so until he is proven guilty i will atleast hold my judgment
@@spatulaboii3108 yeah, i just sit back and wait for the results lol
Asmon only cares about Asmon, let's not pretend he's doing anything other than pushing this drama away from himself with a 10 foot pole for his own benefit. Hey, I'm not hating. I get it, and not saying I wouldn't do the same. But, acting like Asmon is being noble or a good guy or whatever, lol, yeah right.
@@MooKyTig even if that was true how does it take away from him clearly being alot better for otk as a brand
How does one just undress someone and "finish inside". Maybe rich is a crazy guy but its most likely a regret scenario as they have dated for 4 years.
you missed the part of " he rolled her over".
Sexual assault accusations from an ex surprise surprise
even tho i don't like this guy Rich i just hope she's not making this up because Rich's career is over with those allegations
Innocent till proven guilty
I dont want to be an ass, but I always thought there was something extremely off about RIch. He almost seemed a little too aggressive in everything he was a part of; conversations, videos, ect.
I am sad to see that he allegedly did this, and i hope otk recovers.
The word is unhinged. But yeah, maybe not totally unhinged but definitely unstable.
Did she call the Police? Did she scream? Did she try to escape? Did she try to fight him off? is there any evidence of the assault? ... otherwise she is a liar and she's making serious false accusations with big impact on his life.
All I learned thru the mizkif and rich debacle is that otk is not even run or owned by any of the streamers, miz was taken off for his "callous disregard of the severity of sexual misconduct and racial prejudice"????? Done supporting a faceless org
Saying "pregnancy fetish" makes it sound as if wanting kids is unnatural, really a confusion of values or lack of communication between them considering their decisions could change over time.
Impregnation through sex is the primal urge that drived live to prosper and rape is widespread in nature, it is a humane trait to be civilized and consensual. Even animals can behave less like beasts, so can we.
exactly calling natural desire for producing/bearing children a fetish is strange.
After all the shit with projared I'm not assuming shit until all receipts are presented.
Until the other side of the story is told I don't believe either of them, she only has is a few phone messages that's not enough, her word against his let the courts decide
the messages literally confirm her story
@@SKULLKR3W they can be forged. They don't confirm shit.
@@SKULLKR3W except they dont? or else it would be cut and dry. It's not hense why he hasn't said anything and why we don't see him in the news arrested for rape. And on another note, in this day and age talking to a lawyer is evidence for being guilty? uhh no. There's enough allegations that have been false and these serious allegations need to be handled carefully. So talking with a lawyer and not jumping the gun and telling the world information about it is probably the smartest thing to do. He also doesn't want any more heat going to asmon so he is keeping quiet about it. Not an auto guilty.
@@VenomtheOne messages are literally evidence…LMAO like what do y’all want from her a video of her getting raped from the back? Did y’all expect her to be wire tapped? Do you want to see her rape kit? Lmao just be real y’all don’t give a fuck if she was raped or not just as long as ur precious streamer is safe and if the courts decide he’s guilty y’all would still say she’s lying..
Asmon is the One True King and he is taking responsability! Respect for him!
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he will get caught soon
Always thought rich was a clown
I'm glad Azalia came forward. I've been in a situation very much like she was in. I met a guy who seemed to be really into me and we flirted a lot, then one day he asked me on a date. I ended up falling for him, and we hooked up a couple of times. Then he made it known he wasn't looking for a relationship and I was like, ok cool. Stayed friends but kept my distance. Then he would show up at the restaurant I worked at and make a public show of hugging me, trying to kiss me, like we were a couple. I was polite, but inside I was screaming. Like who the fk does that. The last straw was when he got me in a text convo one night...then saying he just got a new bed and I should come see it. At 2am. Gtfo.
Some guys are just pushy af when they realize there's a nice girl that's so into them, so they'll see just how far they can take it. Sickening.
That is literally nothing alike rofl.
@SynthwaveHyena Did you read Azalia's twitlonger? Can you even read?
except where's the rape? and you consented to that kind of relationship without telling him otherwise or stating any boundaries. maybe next time don't use this as an example
Man I never liked the guy but I didn’t expect something like this from him. Ik he always has the worst takes on everything but if this is true, this man is literally criminally insane.
Nothing is proven yet.
Being a douchebag is not a crime, nor indicative of being a rapist. Reserve judgment until evidence comes out that proves one way or another.
@@Akiraspin I never said it was, read my comment again.
@@project-arlo I didn’t say it was, was just giving my general observation of him. Read my comment again.
i will always give people the befit of the doubt i see no reason her allegation are fake and will leave it to the courts to decided.
She report to twitter instead of police... Wait until rich speaks. because anyone can tell a story but you cant fake facts
Man I know they're allegations but this dude always acted kinda weird to me. There are compilations and posts of his odd behavior in regards to relationships and stuff online. I hope this turns out to not be entirely true but Jesus man...wtf.
Personally if I had to guess I'm gonna say it's probably unfortunately true....due to his bizarre interactions and reactions to women and relationships with them. I hope I'm wrong but why would she say this shit knowing how dedicated and wild online fanbases can be...unless she was telling the truth. She isn't gonna get clout for it...and the Rich stans will send her bullshit...and she knows that for sure..even before posting this. So....idk. If she's not telling the truth this dude just basically lost a job and part in that Org for no reason. :/
Edit: Also this isn't just harassment...he had sex without her consent according to the allegations...that is by definition "rape".
Did he push her onto a bed and rape her or what her description is kind of vague, not that I'm defending rich. But he was "trying to take her cloths off" then suddenly" he rolled me over and went inside" um ok so was he successful in taking your cloths off? Did he rip the panta down, or did she pull them down? Usually when people withhold specific details like that it's kind of suspicious, like they aren't telling the full truth.
My conclusions is she didn't want it but she kept succumbing to his persistence and then regretted it after.
I mean, if being an awkward gamer nerd is sus...then sure...
This is Ryan from rooster teeth all over...
Innocent until approve guilty
not in the states lol
just look at what Depp had to go through just to clear his name
@@vavra222 and even then the damage was already done, he may bounce back somewhat but his opportunities will never be the same.
Not discrediting anything.
May be true, may be bullshit.
Waiting for all the facts to come out before I decide how i feel.
Warning. Warning. Internet violation detected. Must believe all criminal allegations made on internet. Must not question why person did not sign a criminal complaint under penalty of perjury. Must not wait for accused to speak. Must end person's life and career on the word of someone you don't know.
The accuser always has a onlyfans to promote.
Who's gonna get slaughtered by a twitlonger next? Mizkif or Cyr? Taking bets now, fellas.
allegation
/ˌalɪˈɡeɪʃn/
plural noun: allegations
a claim or assertion that someone has done something illegal or wrong, typically one made without proof.
The story sounds super sketchy to me.
Asmongold is a nice guy, I sincerely think he's a good person, but don't forget he's also a millionaire who has been leading businesses in this space for years now, he obviously got at least general PR training, most likely also has some PR service he can call for scenarios like this. He used very precise wording in his stream
Yea I don’t judge until the facts are presented
Pretty sure that not assault that's the big R word
That’s what sexual assault means
@@beck6722 In general, you commit the crime of "R" if you have non-consensual sexual intercourse with another person by means of physical force or threats. By contrast, you commit the offense of sexual assault if you make sexual contact with a person, as in touching a person’s intimate parts, without that person’s consent.
R is a form of sexual assault.
Why is Asmon getting shit on from this? Asmon was never involved in any of this but handled it like a professional in both cases.
“tHIs HaS NoTHinG tO Do wiTh eSPoRts. iT sHOuLd BE oN a DIfFerREnT chANNeL”
Inb4 we get these clowns commenting.