Make Percussion Caps at Home! Beat the Cap Shortage Blues!!!
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- It's time to take control of our hobby...and stop hoping and praying the manufacturers will help us out, In this video I demonstrate the simple and cheap process of making homemade percussion caps!!! Why wait to shoot??? When the answer can be right on our shelf! I've made thousands over the years and they go BANG!!!!
Cap maker and primer link:
22lrreloader.com
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They'll come back... We all know, smokeless is a passing fad anyway...😁
Yea. That’s right! Just a 130 year fad lol
Funny, but only kinda. I can make black powder, nitrocellulose, kinda, not so much.
As far as not being able to find smokeless probably. Making BP is MUCH easier than nitro lol.
Smokeless will never fade as it is not a fan but is a necessity. Black
Powder is the fad or hobby.
@stevenhard3961 oh there’s no doubt. In modern times it’s is the hobby. But my guess is that in 1865 people on TH-cam said black powder would never fade. They are related…black powder is smokeless powders grandfather. There will be a next over smokeless someday, the smokeless will be the hobby lol.
Your mixtures, left to right, are Potassium Chlorate, Antimony Trisulfide, Sulfur, and ..probably ground glass. Measuring by volume will work, but measuring by weight is far superior for doing chemistry like this. The first 3 are really all you need, but the glass powder adds surfaces for it to get smashed between.
Actually, you can get away with just the KCL03 and S, but the Antimony Trisulfide makes it a little bit hotter.
You definitely want to mix this one small batch at a time. It's pretty much the exact opposite of making fireworks--you're creating something inherently unstable and shock sensitive, so work in very, very small quantities so you keep your fingers and eyebrows!
Thank you! That’s interesting. I’ve only mixed a double batch occasionally. That’s great to know!
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb Double batch is fine. It's when people get the bright idea to make half a kilo of stuff that the fingers start flying!
If Prime-All is H-48 or a variation thereof...the ratios I received by weight seem off,. However, I haven't weighed what the "volumetric" L/S dipper throws yet For H-48 the instructions are different. Prime-all may be less sensitive. I have both, but haven't messed with them yet.
Prime All (if all 68g can be used - 68g is about 1050 grains. At .3 grains of primer per cap = 3500 caps.
Potassium Chlorate__(27g) 2L
Antimony Trisulfide_(20g) 1L
Sulfur______________(13g) 1S
Ground Glass________ (8g) 1S
H-48 ($45-$60) will do 81,000 pistol caps) (33 grain batches - 100 caps) Instructions are more stringent than prime-all. Don't attempt H-48 without the proper instructions.
Potassium Chlorate__(17gr)
Antimony Trisulfide__(9gr)
Sulfur_______________(3gr)
Ground Glass________(4gr)
Baking Soda_________(0.2gr) Helps stabalize and extend shelf life.
Aluminum Powder_____(0.2gr) Optional
Edit: added H-48 video link - th-cam.com/video/ybRhewRS9o4/w-d-xo.html
@dbod9815 hmmmm. You may be above my pay grade here…but I’m willing to look into it! Thanks
I use small rifle primers and plastic tube. I insert the primer into a cut to length tube and fit it on to thd the nipple.
Get you a thin piece of lathe wood, drill holes along it so the caps just fit in. Makes handling them so much easier. Have you a good day.
I’ve thought of that and if I get to having to produce a bunch I will try that! Thank you!
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb A board from an old mouse trap is perfect!
Great idea..so if the mixture of the powder makes enough for 20 make it hold 20...I'm picturing it..and yes...a mousetrap wood..thx!
I made one but made it from a thin aluminum plate
I'd do aluminum or even delrin B4 wood but great idea!
Preach it brother...!! The name of the game is get out there and burn some powder and do what it takes to supply your cap needs. Your method looks easy to do. Thank for sharing my friend...
Just by way of FYI - aluminum beverage cans have a "plastic" coating on the inside and, of course, the paint on the outside. Sanding one side (or both if you want) to remove it helps adhesion greatly.
Didn’t know that! Thanks
There are pairs of tweezers out there that are "normally closed" meaning you squeeze them to open them up. I think those would be ideal to hold caps while filling,
I’m gonna look for some! Thanks. Never heard of them.
Yes I have seen those... good idea! 🙂
Great suggestion! Great for people whose grip strength isn't as good as it used to be, or have other fine motor skill issues with fingers and thumbs. My late father used these tweezers as part of his stamp collecting hobby.
Can find them as "reverse-action tweezers" and they're very affordable and come in a variety of styles for different purposes. Some have the points at a 45° angle, or even a 90° angle, and some even come with a weighted stand they can clamp into to hold parts at any angle. Used a lot in jewellry, watch making, crafting, and small electronics work, or any kind of precision work.
I used to build models so have multiple pairs. I suggest getting the ones that can be attached to a base making it like a 3rd hand. I have hand tremors so it helps a lot. They are made for soldering I believe and called reverse tweezers.
You might also consider Locksmith pinning tweezers as they grip small tubular pins very well.
Great to see how others do this...
Prime-All is not available here in NZ, so I disassemble plastic toy caps by crushing them gently with long nosed pliers. Now and again the cap will fire if I am a bit rough, but no harm done. I make cap bodies with the same die as yours, and have made a tiny copper spoon to put the powder in. I top it with a small paper disk and a drop of clear nail polish diluted about 3 to 1 with acetone. The disk helps to keep the compound in the cap during handling. Since using the disks I have had no caps that had the compound fall out.
I did make a "finishing" die that fits in my reloading press to compact the walls of the cap bodies before filling. I found that this improves the caps for holding in my capping 'stars' and that they cling to the nipples better. It's worth the few seconds per cap to run them through the die.
The plastic caps I have actually have the formula on the backing card; they are made from red phosphorus and potassium chlorate.
They certainly go off with a heck of a bang. Like you, I found that filling the caps only about 1/4 full is best for good results.
Each percussion cap takes the powder from about three plastic caps, so I get about 48 from each $2.90 card of 144 shots.... about 6c a cap.
Commercial caps here used to be 20c each, but they are more than that now... 25 or 30c depending on the vendor..... yes, $30 a hundred!. So apart from the time factor (I am 81 now so have the time) the home made caps make economic sense.
Some use roll caps I see, but these seem to be a prohibited import to NZ now...... sigh....
Sounds like it’s worth the effort! That’s cool. Thanks.
I mix duco cement with acetone and put a drop in them. I have also made the caps from double layer aluminum can as well as using brass sheeting and they all worked. So far they have all fired without fail but I recently found some #11 caps at a gas station so I picked up a lot. But it is nice having the back up option of making my own. I also cut off a piece of straw for putting primer in the caps. I keep the caps I made in a candy tin and haven't lost any of the powder from bouncing around.
ive been using copper sheets :D
and was just about to recommend the good ole duco acetone "one-two" punch as well xD
@dudearlo I’ve heard a lot about duco so I’ll give it a try. Thsnks
Thank you, i just started doing this and i found that using a paint brush to mix the powder works well and the back of it works well as the matchstick tamper.
You’re welcome! And thank you for the great suggestion! I’ll give er a try!
I don't know if it's still around, but years ago I remember seeing percussion nipples that were made to use shotgun primers. Of course those may be in short supply as well.
They still make those. Sold as "209 ignition" when already part of the factory gun. Sold as a "conversion" for #11 nipples.
Seems like a fine idea at least.
Very good instruction and I Thank You Kindly! I do have a capper but need to get more primer. It also looks like you have a Lovely collection of revolvers. And to myself as well, I say you can’t beat percussion revolvers and muskets! I always say that its like shooting history. My daughter visited from Oregon last Sept and our tradition is to visit Gettysburg whenever we can. I have an old Army issue 69 cal smooth bore I restored and before our visit to Gettysburg, we went to the range. She shot the musket, my 1860 Army 44 and 51 Navy 36. She liked the 36 best. But shooting these guns give you a deep appreciation for all the hardships the Soldiers endured and being grateful that you’re not on the wrong end of a lead ball or Minnie! Thanks Again, Many Blessings and Good Shootin! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
Thank you. I love your tradition. The historical feeling is what got me into these revolvers in the first place. I love trying to step into the shoes of our forefathers and mothers to get a sense of their lives…through the firearms, clothes and sometimes camping. I also own some cap lock and flintlock rifles that do the same thing. Someday I’ll get a sharps! Thanks again. I love visiting Gettysburg.
I use duco cement glue mixed with acetone works great go bang every time and you can't get it to crumble and fall out of the cap the duco cement is a nitrocellulose glue so it actually makes them a little hotter
It's a good winter hobby. Be surprised how many you can make through the course of one winter. Same with molding bullets and making paper cartridges.
Indeed. That’s when I do my paper cartridges. Winter.
Your videos are great, keep them coming
Thanks my friend! Another one tonight at 715 pm EST!
Thanks for being honest about the cap reliability. I tried this a few years ago and hated doing it--well the part of filling the cap with mixture. I'm about ready to try it again but will only use those caps for casual practice. I will save my Remington # 10's for participation in Cowboy Action Matches.
That’s what I did!
Very interessting ! I have allways used matches heads& ' box-stuff" ( phosphorus)mix , but they are not allways available. Only small quantities.Even so one time it has blowed up and the plate below got cracked in flying pieces .Nobody got hurt..I didnt even wear glasses ..That was a lesson..
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Wow! Thank you!
If your in a toy store look,and see if they sell the red plastic caps meant for a later model cap gun. I use them on my Ruger old Army,and they work fine.
🤔 you should do a video now I'm Hella curious
I use the # 10 & 11 maker works great
thank you jay this is very interesting thank you for sharing i havent been able to find any 10's but have found #11
Thanks Les! 11’s work! I shoot them often to save my 10’s. Glad you found some. Lots of RWS 1075 available now. I really like those.
I have one of those tools which I bought about 30 years ago. Had no idea anyone was still making them. It came with a little hole puncher, that you used to punch the centers out of roll caps to stuff in the aluminum cap. It always seemed kind of hokey but was much less tedious than what you show here. I snapped a few of them and they seemed to work, but I don't remember if I ever did any actual shooting with them.
Im experimenting with FA-7O primer compound ..it was used in US military WW2 ammunition and is probably as good as a binary type mix can get. It works great in percussion caps and us very cheap to make. Lead thiocyanate seems exotic but its farly easy to prepare.
I always save my used caps. This'll be handy
I got this kit in the mail today & the #10 cap maker...glad I got the real metal cap maker and not one of the cheaper 3d printed ones.
Also! I got my 1858 army in the mail too! I'm like a kid on Christmas morning! It is a lot larger & heavier than I thought it would be...just to see I tried one of the plastic caps that come with toy cap guns and it fit snugly and fired...ok ok enough rambling gonna watch this video again and make my 1st little batch of caps! Thanks again for the videos
Wow! You’re having a great day! Sometimes those plastic caps work! Have fun
If nothing else those plastic caps are a way to just have fun with the revolver without it being loaded. Maybe it's just because I'm a kid stuck in a mans body.
@davinci3259 aren’t we all! I’m playing cowboy dress up all the time lol!
Honestly I have been looking at some western gear myself
@miraxus6264 yup. You see me in some of it on the channel. My dress game bout to improve lol
Great video. TY
I just fired 24 homemade caps from 22 reloader an no duds they all sounded like a 22 shell going off
Beautiful!!!!
I have the Prime All kit. It works amazingly well.
Yes. It does. I admit I was surprised how well it worked at first!
I’ve been making my own caps with the 22lr reloader cap maker and prime all for a couple years they work great. I have, however, streamlined the operation. I use an arbor press, and I put the slotted die in the top (ram) of the press. That way the die can stay hooked to the press, and the punch can get picked up and the cap knocked out after making it. Using the arbor press makes it effortless to punch out a lot of caps in a little time. I also use copper foil instead of aluminum. I think it works a bit better at staying on the nipples. Now, to make the prime-all powder they recommend crushing all the little clumps of the 2L powder. I took a 3/8” piece of hardwood dowel about 3” long. On one end, I epoxied a little glass craft pebble (the kind with a flat bottom) on the other end of the dowel, I whittled it down to the size of a kitchen matchstick. When I measure the 2L powder, I put it in a concave bottom inside glass shot glass. That with the glass pebble pestle, I crush down into the shot glass mortar the 2L powder. I then proceed to measure the rest of the powders in the mix and stir them up with the little measuring scoop. (Don’t crush them together with pestle after all the powders are added, or it may go bang💥). After mixing up, I dispense into caps which perfectly fit into a small pistol primer tray (that comes with the primers when you buy them). I have found a little disposable protective cone (that doctors use when they’re looking in your ear) to be the perfect funnel for priming your caps. After all the caps are primed, I use a glass medicine bottle with a glass dropper to dispense a 4:1 solution of acetone and Duco cement. 1-2 drops per cap. After 5-8 minutes tamp it down with the whittled end of the pestle. Let dry 24 H. And enjoy 🎉
I love your process. Especially the little funnel. I’m gonna study your process to see what I can “borrow”. Thanks!!!!
Absolutely! I am an artisan, blacksmith/weldor/sculptor and (obviously) BP enthusiast, so half the fun of what I do is the process of getting there. Theres never nothing to do in my life. Youre welcome to share everything I said. Happy capping! - Jon
@ironwrx thanks Jon! I love it! You’ve got skills!
I adjusted my frame so without a nipple the hammer rested on the cylinder
Pretty neat. Tedious but neat.
Very tedious! But it’s better than nothing!
Ive been thinking about doing this, great video, thanks!
You’re welcome. They work!
This was the video i had in mind when i ordered this same kit..i forgot it was your video! Thanks again for your videos!
lol. Surprise!
Try putting caps in a large rifle primer tray. It makes it much easier.
Yea…gonna do that! Thanks
I make mine and use a small pistol primer tray (that comes when you buy the small pistol primers). Fits the #11 caps perfectly.
Yes!..., my method as well. I love that when you have a full tray, cardboard slide cover for proper storage when you're done
@kthomson5573 yes sir. Me too. Thanks!
Another reason to support your local rendezvous. I always find caps there no matter what shortage the rest of the world is having.
this makes me wonder how the early pioneers moving west maintained the ability to harvest game along the way. no refrigeration and no time to preserve the meat. so it had to be harvested daily and consumed. since cabalas did not exist nor online supply sources this would have the people bringing a lot of supplies or having to carry/source raw materials along the way. its hard to believe a entire continebt was settled and defended with this tech. now imagine standing at your tailgate with an oil lamp making caps and casting lead... then tracking down some dinner. harvesting it dragging back to camp and cleaning it. then some ones got to cook it. sounds like a hard life compared to todays instant gratification at the drive through
No doubt. I love reading about that period. There’s some interesting documents out there about this and lists of packing supplies for the journey. Caps, powder and lead were big parts of it…so was salt. They salted and dried meat but also had to eat it soon. Lots of beans and coffee on those lists. I’ll tell you…those generations were TOUGH. Most of us would be in trouble. Thanks.
Good to remember though in case the SHTF, alot of young folks these days will no doubt starve to death.
Anyone ever fire an old flintlock? First time I saw one, I wondered what keeps the powder from blowing off the pan, lol,
@DarkAngel051372 lol. Me too!!!!
I've made these and they work well, I sand the aluminum for better adhesion and use acetone, after the 5 minutes I tamp them down then put a drop of duct cement in them, none have failed yet? I also have used this mix for recharging musket caps. Great video on making them 👍
The kit I had some years ago used toy cap gun caps same idea whack out the body use a paper hole punch, knock out the primer from the cap tape, push it in, worked fine cap gun caps are getting hard to find also.
I’ve seen that…but I had a tough time making the work! They are in short supply!
Cabelas
Very good
Thanks!
Love the video! If I can learn to do something for myself so that I'm not reliant on others, it's always a win. New subscriber amd I'm looking forward to more!🤘
Hey thank you! That’s why I made it. Welcome to the channel. There’s another video coming tonight at 6 pm EST.
I like the comment, " we all knew smokeless was just a fad!" Lol
Very good video!,
Thank you!!!
I have just found your channel the last week or so. I'm new to all black powder firearms and I love it. I have the molds for my 50 rifle, and also for my 44 ball and 36 ball. I also cast for all my smokeless weapons. My 45acp 230grain ball , 40 s&w, 9mm, 380, and 38. I was wondering, If I could use the cast 45 (.452) bullet in my 44 cap and ball pistol. I think it is (.452)?
So…as I read it as long as it’s soft lead probably yes. The smallest round I would use is 451. If it’s 452 than you are ok by my knowledge. Needs to shave a ring of to ensure tight seal in chamber. I don’t see why not at 452. I wouldn’t any smaller.
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb Thank you for the reply. That is what I was thinking.
@williamcastleberry7338 I've shot some .452 SWC I cast for my 1911 in my 1858. Worked just fine and was fun. A bit more difficult to load and less accurate than a ball.
They're pure lead in both firearms, I powder coat them for the 1911
Prime-all works well for me. I load the caps, insert a disc of nitrated cigarette paper, use a drilled board to hold the caps and spray with hair spray. My problem has been finding suitable material for punching out musket caps.
There's diy 3d printed caps on Amazon.
Pie tin works great
You can go to Hobby Lobby or a local hobby shop and get a roll of .005 in. 36 gauge copper sheeting. The package does not say how long the sheeting is but it's 12 in. wide. It has to be 3 ft. long. You can make a lot from it.
@noapologizes2018 I’ve heard that copper sheeting works great!
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb It works really good. It does cost more than aluminum cans. I had it left over from a different project.
Somebody on amazon sells a DIY kit with caps, a tamp and scoop to be used with this powder. Theyre 3d printed and look and fit great.
Haven’t seen that. That’s great!
Hairspray often has some flammable (explosive even) chemicals similar to propane in them. I wonder if you might have some unique chemical setup using that brand of a hairspray as a sealer.
Never thought about that but you’re right. I’ve see aerosol hairspray ignite. Wonder if it’s the aerosol? Hmmmm thanks
I have taken up using cap gun caps, though I also use aluminum cans to make the cap body. Excellent showing, solid sub from me, on gun channel to another.
I haven’t really given that enough of a try. I’ll have to do that. I’ll check you out on the tube! Thanks
Found your channel. Subscribed.
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb Welcome to the party! Three roll caps punched out with a paper hole puncher works fantastic
Just purchased my first two revolvers and my gosh, caps where almost impossible to find. Definitely going to make the investment.
Yea. You either gotta grab em when you find em or make your own! CONGRATS and welcome to the “addiction”. lol
I make sealer with Duco cement mixed with acetone …
There’s an idea. That would prolly be even better huh? Thanks
How much cement to acetone thank you
I agree Arthritis Sucks getting old has it's drawbacks. Actually the Yellow Chemical is Dextrin a glue made from Corn Starch used to hold the mixed compound together. I get better results without the Dextrin and using a 4 to 1 mix of Acetone and Duco Cement to hold it all together. Duco Cement is Nitro Cellulose the same Chemical in Single Base Smokeless Gun Powder so it also makes the caps stronger. With my Cap Maker Die I was having a lot of Torn Caps so I Polished the sharp corners and I use a Propane Torch to Anneal the Aluminum or Copper Sheet before I make the cups.This almost eliminates the torn Cap issue . Without the Duco the Prime All mixes is very poor with Pyrodex P which I bought several pounds of during the Biden Pandemic . I've tried Hair Spray but results weren't satisfactory.
Great advice buddy
Thanks!!!
I've tried the toy caps before and it didnt seem to work, but I saw a video recently of someone else doing it and it worked just fine. I'm gonna try some different toy caps just for fun. I thought ahead and ordered an entire case before of the real #11 and #10s. Just keep checking midway and eventually youll get them.
The toy plastic caps didn’t work for me. I’ve had up and down success with the roll caps. You got it brother…pay attention and sooner or later you’ll get some!
🇦🇺😎👍We haven’t hat pistol powder for 3 years down here in Australia
Oh no! I’m sorry to hear that.
My hammer was getting a mark on the inside of it ,found out the hammer was hitting the arbor a little bit ,you might check yours
I will for sure. That’s a great fix! I’m going out to shoot here in a minute so I’ll check!
Thank you !
You’re welcome!
Highly recommend 22LR Reloader. Put your orders in soon, for whatever reason my order took several months, probably was sick.
Important information. Thanks
If you get yourself a pair of surgical type forceps they might be easier for you to use than twizzers to pick up your caps. I used them for fly fishing. You can lock them in place once you pick something up and not drop the cap.
Now that’s great. I may even have some! I’ll see. That would be easier on these fingers lol. Thank you
I always wondered if cutting the charge out of cap pistol caps would work, 60 years ago I would load cap pistol cartridges with fire cracker powder and BOOM . Push a plastic bullet at a velocity that would make the pigs squeal and run when it hit them in the butt .
go to Graff and sons in Mexico, MO, they have them in stock so you don't need to make, most of my Colt Revolvers take NUMBER 11 CAPS, 10'S DO NOT FIT.
Oh yea. I have mine. Just trying to give others a chance to do it. Hopefully I’ve got enough. But I made ALOT of these a couple years ago. Thanks
Remember those hand held hold punches for paper..not the ones that make 3 holes in paper for a binder but just the one hole...I can imagine this being made similar..you could just punch a bunch of holes and then empty out the new caps afterwards
Good idea!
Made the caps like you did in the video. The hairspray wanted to bead up on top of the primer "dust"...I mixed 50/50 hairspray & denatured alcohol together and that seemed to soak in right away...see tomorrow if it holds good...made a bullet with a mold too..having a blast and haven't even got to shoot yet
Ohh wanted to ask how many caps do you make with just 1 mix of the prime all?
@miraxus6264 that’s terrific! Getting ready!!!!
J-Stone, I Found a better answer because you used hairspray. Why wait buddy? I was way SUCCESSFUL using Liquid Skin, a liquid band-aid! That stuff comes with a brush that puts a perfect drop on your filled cap, and, here's the BONUS. It only takes 40 seconds to dry and the caps are ready. This stuff dries FAST with seconds. The most common name is (New Skin,) and it's denatured and highly flammable, but it coats the cap perfect. I even beat the cap on the table and nothing came out. But, Do they ever go BANG. I mean BANG, but the cap is still in tact and easily removed. J, I was so excited to share this with you I almost peed my pants.
Wow! That’s great idea! Never thought of it. It sounds perfect! I’ll give it a try. Thanks man!
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb It IS Perfect. My son said it again, "If you can't fix it dad, it can't be fixed."
@gwilkins3650 lol! That’s great!
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb By the way, I immediately gently still used the wooden match pushing it down. This stuff dries extremely fast but it seals that cap like crazy. I remembered that product from years ago, when I put it on an underwater shotgun primers that I used to kill invasive carp in a lake I managed. Can't wait for you to give it a try. You'll lose your addiction to your wife's hairspray. Be careful though buddy, the fumes in that bottle are very strong.
@gwilkins3650 thanks! That’s good to know (fumes). I will definitely let you know. I may have to make an addendum to my video!!!
you need the reverse tweezers
Mine go off most the time I seal mine with hairspray so the mixture stays in the caps.
They work most of the time for me too. Most of the time with these is better than none of the time with no caps!
👍👍👌👌
We might be able to keep flintlocks. No caps needed.
There you go! I love them too but I’m gonna keep my revolvers. Lots of ways to enjoy the BP hobby. Thanks
Спасибо за идею. У нас такое не продают, интересно получится ли сделать капсюль под гильзы с центральным боем.
Saltpetre, carbon, sulphur and some kind of oxidiser.
IDK, I just ordered 500 #10 Remington caps from Cabelas.
That’s great! I got mine a couple weeks ago! This is good news!
Great video. Can you use the home made caps in a ted cash capper?
John
I’ve never tried but I doubt it. The cut edges on these probably wouldn’t make it out of the capper in shape. It’s worth a try I suppose! Thanks John
Interesting video, but I'm not sure being dependent on a commercial supplier for undisclosed chemical components puts folks any more "in control" during a shortage than being dependent on any other kind of component supplier. Any plans for a video on how to extract the chemicals from common household products? ;-)
I hear you on this…but at least with this you can get a couple thousand out of a 25$ set of primers components. That video on extraction is WAY above my pay grade! lol. Thanks
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb thanks for the reply. Come to think of it, even aside from the cost, just having another option during a shortage is a good thing. More options=more better. Thanks again. I'm just starting to look into cap and ball, so I'll check out a few more of your vids.
@ApKNJ thanks for checking it out! I’m always looking for choices! Reach out anytime and good luck with cap n ball! It’s worth it!
You can get potassium chlorate from an electrolytic cell, extracting from salt substitute. Sulfur is readily available; you can grind glass in a ball mill. Antimony Trisulfide is the tricky part--it comes straight from the ground as Stibnite, but unless you're mining and grinding it yourself, just buy yourself a pound from an online supplier and you'll never run out in this lifetime.
I have a guess what the ingredients are, but I'm pretty sure youtube would rather I not say directly. The first 3 make a more sensitive variation on black powder, very much not recommended for larger batches. The last is a binder.
I knew the last was a binder. The most I’ve done is a double batch. Thanks. Prolly not a TH-cam thing. Thanks.
How do they grip the nipple and how easy to they come off? Could you use sheet copper?
Get a good nipple wrench. Ubertis sometimes are hard to get out the first time. But once they are out you put some anti sieze grease on em. I also only put em back finger tight and they stay fine. I’d say look for a Ted cash ratchet nipple wrench. About 20 bucks and it gives the best leverage. They have em at Dixie gun works and a few other places. Sheet copper? For percussion caps?
I had a guy tell me he added laundry starch to his acetone. Can you do an experiment on that?
I’ve never heard of that. I’ll put er on my test list. Sure. Give me a minute though!
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb
He claimed it worked. I never got the chance to see for myself. I have no idea what mix ratio he used.
How will these caps work in a side hammer muzzle loader?
That’s a good question. Never tried. I can’t see why they wouldn’t work ! Thanks
I'm tired of annoying shortages!
I haven’t seen caps on the shelves for years now.. I know they still exist, I’m just saying I haven’t seen them in stores..
Yea. They only hit stores once in a while. Usually summer getting ready for hunting season.
Just got the kit and the directions seem strange when it mentions using an "old anvil"??? 9. Use the small end of the scooper and fill funnel
to fill primer approximately 2/3 of the way up
with powder mixture.
*10. Put old Anvil on top of powder (center and level)*
11. Now, simply, add 1 drop of 55 Hardening agent.
12. Let dry completely (approximately 24 hours)
13. Now you are ready to reload.
I’ve never seen those instructions before. I have no idea what an old anvil is. Mine says fill up 1/3 of way.
Hmmmm.
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb I know. Strange. It's the
Sharpshooter 22LR Reloader kit. It also has a funnel and hardening liquid (I guess vs using acetone or hairspray). I'll just watch your vids and others. Thanks. ✌
@williewasahippie the funnel would help load primer into caps a lot if it’s a small one and try the hardening liquid. It might do the trick. Compare it to hairspray and acetone.
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb Will do! I'll try to report back sometime. Maybe, I'll upload a vid on my own channel. However, my channel is motovlogging. Worried my channel will get taken down if I ever post "anything" gun-related!!! ☮
@williewasahippie let me know.
99% alcohol mixed 10:1 with duco cement makes a good binder/sealer. Try omitting the off white powder (the beige one not the yellow or white), together reliability is near 99%
Thank you. I will.
I figured the off-white powder was ground glass--what do you think it is? Something like parlon, designed to act as a binder when acetone is added?
@@gpweaver it's some kind of binder yeah.
@@chairzombie8378 It's probably parlon or nitrocellulose flakes. Which...you can make your own nitrocellulose by dissolving ping-pong balls (or smokeless powder--great use if you had to empty a bunch of sketchy reloads) in acetone.
I'd omit that #4 powder and add the same quantity in finely ground glass, to ensure reliable ignition.
Where did you find the cap maker kit?
I don’t have the site memorized but I know it’s listed in the program notes of that video. Thanks.
I bought some prime all , tried mixing it three or four different batches , never worked
Wow! That’s unusual. Sorry to hear that. Maybe a bad batch
Becareful this leads to modern primer reloading when you know you know
I understand that those caps are corrosive, is that your experience? I suppose it’s not a big deal as the revolver needs to be cleaned anyway. Thanks for demonstrating.
I’ve not found that. I think what gets folks saying that is they leave a yellowish-orange residue. But not sure that means they are corrosive. Hear that a lot about pyrodex and I’ve found that false too… but like you say…I clean within 24 hours so I may not know. Thanks.
Everything to do with the black powder sport is corrosive. If you're the sort who only likes to clean your guns once every year or when the shells stop extracting, black powder is not for you.
@kenofken9458 that’s my response when folk say that. If you clean it’s not corrosive!
They are--potassium chlorate is hygroscopic, and it will wreck the brass used in cartridges.
Just clean your weapon after use, and if you're making field-expedient primers for cartridges, get 'em in the wet tumbler as soon as you get back from the range.
@gpweaver it’s all corrosive if you don’t clean. Thanks!
Why don’t they include a “one-third scoop” with the kit? Probably cast all of twenty cents more.
Now that would make everything easier for sure!
Dont forget to put the hairspray back
the wife mite be inclined to rough you up if she cant find it
1 better. I bought her a new one and replaced it. No harm no foul lol.
I have used the plastic caps for toy guns.
Do they work for you?
I tried it as an experiment and it did work, but I imagine that those will vary in quality.
@JohnSmith-kw9yc I tried them too. The couple that worked welded the plastic to the nipple. It was a bear to get off.
If you wanted to be sure I guess you could put some hot powder in the nipple.
@JohnSmith-kw9yc read that wild bill Hickok did that. I won’t.
Now line up twelve 😺 cats and see how that goes 😂 with the dropper.
Just got my kit to make caps ,tried a few an the caps are really ugly ,different can maybe?
They can look ugly. Maybe a different can. Some use thin copper sheeting maybe .005 I think. But you have to shape them a bit with your fingers. It’s a practice thing. Good luck. They will get better but they do look a bit jagged and different.
Have you ever had a chain fire with these homemade caps ,I like my fingers ,LOL
Nope. I haven’t ever. Which is why I’m suspicious of the idea that most chain fires come from nipple end and loose or bent caps! These are the definition of that. Just my opinion
I know how it is I'm 74 ,but they work good,
@mikerussell6212 I’m 67. Gaining on you lol
@mikerussell6212 I’m 67. Gaining on you lol
Is there any reason I can't use #11 caps ? I have 6000 I paid $2.89 per thousand for ..
No. There isn’t! I use #11 caps a lot. About 2 months ago I put a video out on the cap shortage and I talk about that fact. But…I shoot CCI 11 and RWS 1075 all the time. You’ll just have one fall off once in a while. No big deal. Fire away. Watch that vid if you can.
I use 22 reloader no 11 cap maker and have used the compound but i dont care for the fouling it leaves behind looks aggressive and the mix does not stay in the cup I switched to using paper roll caps instead soak the strip of 9 dots in water for 3 sec then peel back the paper and scape off the dots and put them in the cup then i like to take some of the red paper and put it in the cup over the compound and wait for it to dri 12-24 hr i find this works dang near 100% of the time pistols only I find that they are not hot enough for rifle use especially with substitutes think that this method is easier that putting a dry powder in a cap might be easier if dexterity is not so good. I got this idea from this youtube creator here th-cam.com/video/80_1X-Kooog/w-d-xo.html he uses a plastic thread cap instead of a can cap but i use this method with no 11 can cap hope this helps if anyone is looking for a alternative to the priming compound
Thanks! I’ve never tried that but will!
Not "tin" cans..."Aluminum".
You are correct. My bad
Yeah just don't leave them in your guns of the West Capper for any amount of time otherwise it stretches them out and they don't hold the regular craps properly
That’s good to know!
Nice video, but I have seen this process before
How in the heck do you judge one third of a cap ? That's the problem
Yea. I know. It’s an eyeball guess.
Got mine a few years ago, ain`t looked for em in the store since Why should I? I can get 2000 for $20 I`d be foolish
Yup. I agree.
Only thing about that stuff is it rusts your gun
Yup if you don’t clean it … for sure
Back several years ago when I got my next cap and ball revolver, I told my wife that with all the other firearms I had, this one was because of the stupidity of gu'mint. And since I knew how stupid our country was becoming, when I saw a 'tube' of #10 percussion caps on the shelf at our local Bass Pro Shop, I grabbed the entire tube (1,000 caps).
Then I saw the video of a guy making his own caps from a kit so I ordered the kit and 3 extra packets of PrimeAll.
Now it seems Big Brother doesn't even want us to use BP so I guess the next step is to start making my own BP also.
I will be so glad when the dementia patient and his puppet master are gone from our Gu'mint. Then maybe the 3 letter agencies can become controllable again.
Are you Willy Nelson?
lol. Nobody ever mistakes me for Brad Pitt….but wille is cool.
This is totally far out and to easy after watching this I'm definitely getting me a black powder revolver .
Great!!! Welcome to the club! It’s fun
Avoid bud light cans as they may be too gay to be effective.
Lol
No thank you!
I have thought about this whole primer / percussion cap unavailability. IMO, IT IS UNACEPTABLE! If you get hurt trying to make these things, get a lawyer and sue them (I think most of them come from Vista Outdoors) there is no reason these should not be redily available. After they start losing millions of $, then they might add a new building and add on.
I guess they don’t think we are worth it! Thanks. It is some BS
“Get hurt trying to make these things” ???!!!! youre shooting a .32 to .45 or .50 caliber lead ball or maxi ball bullet with a charge of explosive black powder or pryrodex behind it. And you’re worried about getting hurt making percussion caps???!!!! Really?
@ironwrx not worried. But it does pay to be safe. Especially as a public presenter. Not wanting to get hurt is a good thing … especially when your old lol
I don't think I like these DIY caps ,these DIY caps ,they turn into shrapnel when you fire one ,I've done alot of experiments with them an don't like chain fires
I hear you. Never had chain fires with them or anything else. But…I think they are good when there are no other options or caps available. I only use them when I can’t get manufactured caps which has been a lot lately. But there are Remington #10 caps at bass pro/cabelas and other places. I think they are good with no other options. But I’ve never had one chain fire. Hope you’re ok.