I covered my Scorpion PE I removed the motor, kept over heating and shut’s down at base of a hill. Added a Rolhoff 14 speed hub. Took it on a 30 miles trail next to a raging river. Best ride. 12 gears pinion gear box gives and the 14 gears hub I can climb a wall. My trail weighs a lot more than yours. So now I used off road and gravel rails to trails. Thought check out you video for this trail. Only 7 miles a bit far from Sacramento for me just for 7 mile ride. It’s only going to get 100 degrees today. Down from 113 yesterday. Don’t blame you for heading to coast. I just did some riding in Redwoods and a rainy ride way up in Washington on a 33 mile long trail. Happy trails to you.
Thanks for watching, John! I have a Greenspeed GTO with fat tires and a Rolhoff hub that would have been much better on this ride! Yep, that was a long ride for a 7-mile trail. I think we were just looking for an excuse to get out of the heat for a few hours. :)
I didn't even know we could buy a Pinon MGU on its own yet but great build man - when I can figure out where to get the Enviolo Extreme Gearbox I was going to center mount that to run both the n380 I have in the rear - it's not as much range as the rohloff but it's also like 20% the cost and doubled up it would be plenty for here. The hard part is getting the automatic torque control (in place of automatic gear shifts you can tell it you want a constant torque/rpm and it will try to keep it) if you want to speed up, turn the control lol pretty great I really want to swap out my Tongshen (which has been working like a champ, flawlessly somehow through all the parts I smash and break) for the TQ HPR50 but now it's like anything that doesn't have the gearbox integrated doesn't interest me anymore. I'll just keep using the TS with the CVTs until I can get everything out of my back wheel except a plain axle/hub (the goal). And being up in Oregon, yep, it's always 10°F cooler at the coast - just get over the mountain part or ride a river through the mountains until it dumps out lol (also working on a trailer that turns into a boat so I can ford bigger streams and slower rivers).
This is why for all its warts I'm continuing to build on my Fat Tad CXS - I know nobody asked but I bet a lot of people would love a belt kit which makes IGH even better. I'm working on retrofit jackshafts for idler mounts so we can mount a Gates Carbon tandem bike belt kit (also a bash box or at least plate since I keep smashing my idlers/rear derailleur, and that's been more expensive than just upgrading to IGH/belt in the first place). The front suspension is suspension but with like 3" of travel at best it bottoms out quickly; most people won't roll their trike a dozen times but you know how it is - I miss my outdoors since the accident and nobody is going to hand me my access... You guys are nuts taking road tires up there - at least get some different rims that have some nice 2.5" puncture resistant scwalbe or Vee and air them down a bit - or go full foam core so you can air up and down but never flat ;-) Hello from Halloweentown, OR, where we sit between the Columbia gorge and the Oregon Coast at the foot of the North Coast Range :-) the terrain is...interesting, even just driving around town. This town is *filled* with stairs because there are bluffs and ravines everywhere lol Thanks for the content, I'm going to try to do a 101 ride later this year and see if I can get to my cousin's house (lives in Ensenada); it would be cool to roll up to Cabo Wabo for my first time and literally be on my bent tad ;-) 57 and crippled but far from dead ha ha ha
Y'all had me wondering--long-sleeve jerseys and tights in the summertime?? Great video, thanks for taking the time and making the effort to get it out here.
Thanks for watching, Jupiter! I was a little freaked-out myself. That morning, I went from sweating in the heat in San Jose to freezing in the cold along the ocean in Half Moon Bay. Too bad the oceanside real estate is so expensive- That would be a great place to spend the summer. :)
We’ve ran into a sections of trails like that, a little rough for the Catrike Trail, couldn’t imagine a VTX off roading. The GTO probably would have faired better. Hope to see you soon.
The both of you did a great job of soldiering through the terrain. The VTX is certainly not designed for rough single tracks, but the quality of construction made the difference.
Hey Evan! Yep, not sure if we just got lucky, and I don't think it really translated in the video, but there were some gulleys and ditches that could've easily damaged something if we were in the wrong spot. Yep, I think we got lucky! :)
Great channel! I'd love to see a video discussing shoe options for recumbents, and which you like the best. :). Are non-flexible soles the way to go? Do you push with your whole foot, or do you stay on your toe pad as on a diamond frame? Some suggest larger pedals and then centering your arch on the pedal. Would love to hear your thoughts!
Hey, Mal! We're using stiff soled MTB shoes with SPD style MTB pedals, the cleats placed over the ball of the foot area, although with stiff soles, the pressure is spread over the entire length of the foot. I wouldn't recommend non-stiff soles unless you're using some type of platform that holds the entire length of your shoe. Of course, always make sure you're clipped or strapped in so your foot can't fall off the pedal, drop down and wind up under a trike cruciform arm (leg suck). I have a buddy who does lots of long-distance riding, double centuries and such, that swears by setting up your foot contact point on your heel, taking the ankle out of the equation, and making the force from your leg to the pedal more direct. I've never tried this, so while it works for him, I can't say one way or the other if it's actually better, and "better" may depend on the rider anyway. Thanks for watching!
Great video on a very tough ride. Looked like rough sledding on a VTX on that terrain. Stay safe in the heat. It’s been gorgeous here in New England. We’ve escaped the heat everybody else has had. Stay well.
So, you were one of the few areas that missed the heat wave! :) Enjoy the nice weather! I get the feeling it's going to be hot here for a few more months.
@@bikestrikesrazors it’s supposed to hit 90 here next week for 2 days. No big deal. Coastal breezes and cool at night. Been out cycling everyday! Before you know it I will be griping about the cold and heading to Florida!
@@bikestrikesrazors I like your channel. I would like to see you revisit the flag vs blinky scenario with the blinky on a flag pole - in traffic and in parking lot situations. I cant get over the fact that when I see a blinky a half mile away, it automatically reads "cyclist." I know people love their flags and all, but in traffic I dont think they have the same impact.
Hi David, Yep, it looks like we would have been better off starting from the north end of the trail. I think the paved sections we were on were just cart paths for the golf course.
Joe has a bell on his trike! Not sure why he didn't use it. I think it seemed like we were intruding on the golfers and hotel guests on the trail. Trying to tread lightly. That hotel is $900 a night! Ouch!
Keep up the content guys. I have been sharing your channel with family and they love it also.
Thanks for the kind words, Ron and thanks for watching!
I covered my Scorpion PE I removed the motor, kept over heating and shut’s down at base of a hill. Added a Rolhoff 14 speed hub. Took it on a 30 miles trail next to a raging river. Best ride. 12 gears pinion gear box gives and the 14 gears hub I can climb a wall. My trail weighs a lot more than yours. So now I used off road and gravel rails to trails. Thought check out you video for this trail. Only 7 miles a bit far from Sacramento for me just for 7 mile ride. It’s only going to get 100 degrees today. Down from 113 yesterday. Don’t blame you for heading to coast. I just did some riding in Redwoods and a rainy ride way up in Washington on a 33 mile long trail. Happy trails to you.
Thanks for watching, John! I have a Greenspeed GTO with fat tires and a Rolhoff hub that would have been much better on this ride! Yep, that was a long ride for a 7-mile trail. I think we were just looking for an excuse to get out of the heat for a few hours. :)
I didn't even know we could buy a Pinon MGU on its own yet but great build man - when I can figure out where to get the Enviolo Extreme Gearbox I was going to center mount that to run both the n380 I have in the rear - it's not as much range as the rohloff but it's also like 20% the cost and doubled up it would be plenty for here. The hard part is getting the automatic torque control (in place of automatic gear shifts you can tell it you want a constant torque/rpm and it will try to keep it) if you want to speed up, turn the control lol pretty great
I really want to swap out my Tongshen (which has been working like a champ, flawlessly somehow through all the parts I smash and break) for the TQ HPR50 but now it's like anything that doesn't have the gearbox integrated doesn't interest me anymore. I'll just keep using the TS with the CVTs until I can get everything out of my back wheel except a plain axle/hub (the goal).
And being up in Oregon, yep, it's always 10°F cooler at the coast - just get over the mountain part or ride a river through the mountains until it dumps out lol (also working on a trailer that turns into a boat so I can ford bigger streams and slower rivers).
This is why for all its warts I'm continuing to build on my Fat Tad CXS - I know nobody asked but I bet a lot of people would love a belt kit which makes IGH even better.
I'm working on retrofit jackshafts for idler mounts so we can mount a Gates Carbon tandem bike belt kit (also a bash box or at least plate since I keep smashing my idlers/rear derailleur, and that's been more expensive than just upgrading to IGH/belt in the first place).
The front suspension is suspension but with like 3" of travel at best it bottoms out quickly; most people won't roll their trike a dozen times but you know how it is - I miss my outdoors since the accident and nobody is going to hand me my access...
You guys are nuts taking road tires up there - at least get some different rims that have some nice 2.5" puncture resistant scwalbe or Vee and air them down a bit - or go full foam core so you can air up and down but never flat ;-)
Hello from Halloweentown, OR, where we sit between the Columbia gorge and the Oregon Coast at the foot of the North Coast Range :-) the terrain is...interesting, even just driving around town. This town is *filled* with stairs because there are bluffs and ravines everywhere lol
Thanks for the content, I'm going to try to do a 101 ride later this year and see if I can get to my cousin's house (lives in Ensenada); it would be cool to roll up to Cabo Wabo for my first time and literally be on my bent tad ;-) 57 and crippled but far from dead ha ha ha
This would be a perfect trail for your trike!
This is new! Good job guys! Point Break!
I think you’re one of the few folks that recognized that, Frank! Ha!
This is exactly what the ICE Adventure is for! Looks like you’re going to have to update the garage!
YES! An excuse to get another trike! I wish they didn't take up so much space. :)
Y'all had me wondering--long-sleeve jerseys and tights in the summertime?? Great video, thanks for taking the time and making the effort to get it out here.
Thanks for watching, Jupiter! I was a little freaked-out myself. That morning, I went from sweating in the heat in San Jose to freezing in the cold along the ocean in Half Moon Bay. Too bad the oceanside real estate is so expensive- That would be a great place to spend the summer. :)
We’ve ran into a sections of trails like that, a little rough for the Catrike Trail, couldn’t imagine a VTX off roading. The GTO probably would have faired better. Hope to see you soon.
Yes, the way I have my GTO set up, it would've worked MUCH better. :)
Hello guys, glad to see you!)
Hey Oleg! Good to hear from you!
@@bikestrikesrazors I'm in New York now, flying to San Francisco on Wednesday, we have tickets to see Rowling Stone🤘
@@toshaveornottoshave-4804 Excellent! Have fun and have some of that New York Pizza for me! It's the best! :)
@@bikestrikesrazors 😂
The both of you did a great job of soldiering through the terrain. The VTX is certainly not designed for rough single tracks, but the quality of construction made the difference.
Hey Evan! Yep, not sure if we just got lucky, and I don't think it really translated in the video, but there were some gulleys and ditches that could've easily damaged something if we were in the wrong spot. Yep, I think we got lucky! :)
@@bikestrikesrazors Yes, I saw both of you maneuvering around some serious trenches. Nicely done...
Great channel! I'd love to see a video discussing shoe options for recumbents, and which you like the best. :). Are non-flexible soles the way to go? Do you push with your whole foot, or do you stay on your toe pad as on a diamond frame? Some suggest larger pedals and then centering your arch on the pedal. Would love to hear your thoughts!
Hey, Mal! We're using stiff soled MTB shoes with SPD style MTB pedals, the cleats placed over the ball of the foot area, although with stiff soles, the pressure is spread over the entire length of the foot. I wouldn't recommend non-stiff soles unless you're using some type of platform that holds the entire length of your shoe. Of course, always make sure you're clipped or strapped in so your foot can't fall off the pedal, drop down and wind up under a trike cruciform arm (leg suck). I have a buddy who does lots of long-distance riding, double centuries and such, that swears by setting up your foot contact point on your heel, taking the ankle out of the equation, and making the force from your leg to the pedal more direct. I've never tried this, so while it works for him, I can't say one way or the other if it's actually better, and "better" may depend on the rider anyway. Thanks for watching!
Always injoy hearing from you guys. You will haveto go back with your mountain bike looks like it could be a good ride ,on a trike not so much!🤪💫
Yep, I think I was just lucky I didn't damage the trike! :)
Great video on a very tough ride. Looked like rough sledding on a VTX on that terrain. Stay safe in the heat. It’s been gorgeous here in New England. We’ve escaped the heat everybody else has had. Stay well.
So, you were one of the few areas that missed the heat wave! :) Enjoy the nice weather! I get the feeling it's going to be hot here for a few more months.
@@bikestrikesrazors it’s supposed to hit 90 here next week for 2 days. No big deal. Coastal breezes and cool at night. Been out cycling everyday! Before you know it I will be griping about the cold and heading to Florida!
@@markfeldman6509 Yep, the heat doesn't last long! (It just seems that way) :)
Pushing the limits -- love it!
It was a short ride but fun! Thanks for watching, Michael!
That was hilarious! Note that this is your excuse to get a motorized e-trike with suspension. My Steintrike would make mincemeat of that trail...
Suspension would have helped a great deal and I could've used a motor on a few of those hills! Definitely the wrong tool for the job!
@@bikestrikesrazors I like your channel. I would like to see you revisit the flag vs blinky scenario with the blinky on a flag pole - in traffic and in parking lot situations. I cant get over the fact that when I see a blinky a half mile away, it automatically reads "cyclist." I know people love their flags and all, but in traffic I dont think they have the same impact.
@@mgreene888 I've had people in cars pull up to me to tell me they saw my blinky from a mile away! They are great attention getters!
looks like the paved part starts about a mile north of where you were
Hi David,
Yep, it looks like we would have been better off starting from the north end of the trail. I think the paved sections we were on were just cart paths for the golf course.
On thusride you needed my haed rick 29er
It would've been perfect for this ride! :)
How many goathead thorns did you pick up??
Amazingly, none! I thought about that while I was bushwacking. :)
14:45 Time to upgrade the trikes with bike bells.
Joe has a bell on his trike! Not sure why he didn't use it. I think it seemed like we were intruding on the golfers and hotel guests on the trail. Trying to tread lightly. That hotel is $900 a night! Ouch!
Point break I believe
You are correct, sir! :)
so long you don't dig your derailler into the sand a trike could go many trails
I was thinking about that during the ride! The rear derailleurs on these trikes are very low to the ground. :( Thanks for watching, David!