STOP Wasting Time with A1111, Use Forge UI Instead
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ธ.ค. 2024
- Forge UI is the BEST alternative for A1111. Here is how to install Forge UI and run it with the new Flux NF4 V2 Model that supports 6GB cards.
A1111 is no longer supported with the latest updates. For everyone overwhelmed with comfyui, this is a great alternative.
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You have somehow failed to mention the main reason for Forge existing in the first place: It is much better at memory management than A1111. Especially with low VRAM cards, it'll run much faster and achieve higher maximum resolutions.
The main disadvantage is that quite a few extensions don't work. Unfortunately, the regional prompter extension is one of those.
Regional prompter works. I just installed it the other day as I'd completely forgotten that it existed. Although, to be accurate this was in a pre-Flux version of Forge that I use solely for SDXL and SD1.5, so that may make a difference.
@@Elwaves2925 It worked pre-Flux, yes. One of the changes with the implementation of Flux broke it.
@@Steamrick Ah okay, thanks for clarifying. I figured that might be an issue and that's why I mentioned the pre-Flux version. It's part of the reason I have multiple versions of the UIs. 🙂
It doesn't have a better memory management than A1111, it loads and unloads loras for every single image, it's hell on earth if you work with a lot of loras.
Been a Forge user for a long while now and it's worth it for the speed increases over A1111. There was some initial problems with some extensions not working but I found a fork for them tha was Forge compatible. Thankfully, I don't have too many extensions. Once that was sorted I ditched A1111 straight away. Forge continuing to be be updated was great news and the addition of Flux was even better, especially as loras are working with it now.
NOTE: IN FORGE UI, CONTROL NET STILL WON'T WORK FOR FLUX.
Why he dosnt say that in the video? 😮
@@AntonioMaciaMartinez because you can still use FLUX and many other things/
I don't even feel like flux is that big of a deal right now, unless you really need text generation in your images. There's so much community work that still needs to be pushed into the models and optimization until I'll be really impressed, but that's just me.
@@Exaltar so as of now, what SDXL model you think is better or as flux?
@@Exaltar Prompt adherence is much better than SDXL across the board, text or no text.
there is big a problem! many extensions don't work with this ui.
EXACTLY !
I'm still waiting for them to support composable-lora and two-shot after a year. Those are pretty crucial for composition with multiple loras.
If they could do that or have some reliable compatibility mode, I wouldn't need A1111 anymore
@@steve_jabz What's two-shot? Is it something like regional prompter.
When I first switched to Forge a good while back, extensions was the one thing that stopped me fully switching. Then I found forks that offered Forge versions and I've never gone back. Have you tried looking for Forge forks, I had to dig quite far and there is an element of trial and error.
Yeah, if that's the case, it's not important. And stopped development.
Unfortunately thats true.
And A1111 is a solid solution, an idea and a help for so many people... How could one critic that?!
classic clickbait
Hey, some people use old phones instead of smartphones. Just be aware you are using outdated stuff and becoming a minority.
@@SupremacyGamesYT The fact is Forge makes A1111 obsolete, and since it's build on top of A1111 it's simply a natural evolution, you're missing the big picture. But BY ALL MEANS continue to use A1111 even though Forge is available just so you can feel better
@@Lexie-bq1kk Forge does NOT make Automatic1111 obsolete, Forge is just another tool, in actual fact Forge has some issues that Automatic1111 does not, especially with things like extensions especially ReActor, you need to understand that the latest is not always the best for what people need, don't be a control freak.
A1111 Is the best solution, you can take.
It's amazing how much more I understand about the workings of workflows since switching from A1111 to ComfyUI. All of these Forge settings make so much more sense to me with that Comfy knowledge than I ever understood with A1111.
right? an experimenting in comfyui brings up totally new combinations and solutions too :)
Moved from A1111 to Forge about month ago and very satisfied, highly recommend to set Forge while keeping Automatic too.
Speed is much higher like 1.5 times for my scenarios with SDXL/Pony, and it even doesn't overflow 32gb ram like A1111 did.
Note for those who will use Flux with GPU like mine 3070 8Gb (for other memory sizes not sure) to have at least 64Gb ram, in that case it will not use swap and kill lifetime of SSD. In the beginning I had 32Gb ram and it worked, but I noticed it used up to 10Gb of disk space at C drive quite often with image generations, which is quite a lot and for one session it could be more than 100Gb easily, so I decided to upgrade up to 64Gb to be on safe side with SSD lifetime resource (and generally be faster).
About extensions, Regional Prompter doesn't work for sure (but instead you could use SD Forge Attention Couple).
Works fine: ADetailer, Dynamic Prompts, ReActor, Civitai Helper, ar-plusplus, Photopea.
shifted to ForgeUI already, working with fluxDev nf8 on my laptop with RTX 3060 6 gigs of vram and 16 gigs of ddr5 ram, it takes around 3 minutes to generate an image, it takes long but the results are great.
Sweet, just the feedback I hoped to eventually find. I'm behind on the times, time to install Forge and Flux dev
A1111 is still great for SD1.5 and SDXL, I got a ton of extensions installed on it and I have no intention of installing all of them again on Forge (with the exception of Ultimate SD Upscale), I'm currently using Forge mainly for Flux only.
You can just copy your extensions folder I think, but some of them may not be compatible
EXACTLY! Went thru too many issues with crashes rendering my Forge unusable. Went back to A1111 and so far very stable with extensions.
Does the Forge for flux support "Control net" and "LORA" ?
@@kiransurwade3576 Not sure about controlnet, as I'm waiting for for everything to be available. Loras are supported though.
@kiransurwade3576 You mean "control net" ...hmmm, I think control net for Flux is still a Comfy UI only thing so far (last time I checked, the tech develops so fast it's hard to keep up).
A for LORAs, yes Forge does support LORAs for Flux.
hi, where can i enable: vae/ text encoder? i don't have it :(
I use A1111 for controlnet openpose, adetailer and reactor, does Forge have those tools? I would like to use the Flux model.
I'm getting You do not have CLIP state dict error. what should I do?
when i use control net the "allow preview" doesnt show anything,,,
I've had Forge for over a year now, i recently tried it again and noticed only 1 controlnet works for some reason, when i try to use 2 at a time it only uses 1, weird.
tell me the settings for the rtx 3060 12gig webui/bat video card/// thnx bro
Olivio, thanks for another great video! I'm a long-time A1111 user trying to get a handle on using Flux with Forge (because Flux seems to be the way everything is going now). The biggest thing I miss in Forge are some of my extensions. How can I tell which extensions work with Forge as well as A1111? The biggest one I need is a save-state extension so I can save the entirety of my settings and come back later and start where I left off, instead of trying to remember what exactly I had setup before. Any tips in that regard? Thanks!
Unable to download the ae.safetensor file. I get an error message that states "Couldn't download - Needs authorization".
Forge is now a funnel to test features for A1111. I don't know why you don't mention this. A1111 is the way to go if you don't want to be a tester of new features that might/might not work.
This video is a good reminder as to why I left the toxic and misleading community Olivio runs.
what do you recommend... i was working with A1111 until 07-2024.... I want to retake working on that, is there updates or something better now?
Its not a waste of time to still be using A1111.
After trying both Im still using A1111, forge might have been slightly faster for each image (less than 10 seconds) but it comes with a bunch of extensions i don't use and doesn't support others that i do.
Also A1111 hasn't broken on me yet wile my forge stopped opening out of no where so im not sure whats up with that
Can't find how to choose the wieght for my loras in forge
Are AMD gpus supported?
What about SwarmUI ? I find it even more stable and organised, can you try it please and cover it in a video ?
Is it necessary to install these VAE? Will the result be better with them?
Thank you! I just did this, but didn't select any vae or text encoders and it generated fine. Maybe those are needed only for normal dev? Seems like they're integrated in the nf4 v2?
You're right.
where get VAE text encoders?
Hi, to generate video (img to video) how do you do it? Which model? Which extension?
How do you connect step 11 to the prompt? The options to do input outputs are not highlighted, therefore I cannot link it... incredible how un user friendly this app is considering how flexible it is reported to be. Completely counter intuative.
how do you stop every image being saved in to temp gradio?
Can you use xformers with this?
No for webui_forge_cu124_torch24. Not sure about webui_forge_cu121_torch231
Oh I remember the days so long long ago when A1111 was the new kid on the block and THA BOMB!... how times change.
i loaded it and Deforum is NOT showing up as a tab
Hi ! Hello ! they is no SVD ? where is the svd tab ?? thank you !
does it work with pony?
I switched to Forge.
Super fast, but i can't use SD Ultimate Upscale and ControlNet
Back to Automatic1111
With a1111 rocm works with comfyui and forge not much :(
is there a way to use this with my m2 macbook? thx in advance!
For some reason, mine will only show the VAE and not the VAE and the Text Encoder
I was thinking of moving to forge UI from fooocus for more options, should I do that and how much VRM would I need to run flux
@@pieugedher257 I did exactly that several months ago and never went back. I have 6Gb vram and running flux with no problems.
It's faster than A1111 in my tests. Only issue for me is that I can't use img2vid on it, keeps giving me error "got an unexpected keyword argument 'cond'", never found out why.
Is there an equivalent of Mov2Mov in Forge?
Does this support Intel Arc out of the box?
i just installed it and i can't manage to get an image without getting an error ! it seems that forge is not ready enough to be sent on the podium !
It takes me 21Minutes for one image with my 6gb VRAM! Any idea why?
To be true A1111 is a solid pro classic UI. Dozens of people are working on it. And yes, it doesn't support Flux right now. Maybe waiting for something... E.g. for the Pony v7 and Auraflow idk.
a1111 waits till they can add a future properly, Forge has a new update every day and still is not working with Flux.
@@deadlyrobot5179flux worked fine for me 🤔
I am still using ComfyUI , where do I stand on the dead horse betting spectrum?
Hi, the only thing that interests me, is not covered by your very informative video: DEFORUM ?????
@@M--S I got deforum to (finally) install on the latest Forge, but it was very very painful
@@MrPlasmo I've already heard that before. Do XL-controlnets work? Do you have any link to a tutorial how to install it?
i have this error when generating the image: Connection errored out.
am getting the error message: "connection errored out" when I try to generate a picture or do anything. Anyone know how to solve this? I've got an rtx 4090 and 32gb ram, it should be enough no?
Is it the same of What we get via pinokio 2 or it's different / updated version ?
Dont use pinokio. Its not good.
I never managed to install stable diffusion because of the error 128, I would like to know before starting, this one is simpler? and if so how does it work? Can also download models from Civitai and use them as you may see in other tutorial on stable diffusion?
why some other sampling method not present on the forge ui like DPM++ 2M SDE Exponential
Does deforum work ?
Isn't Forge just an updated Automatic 1111???
I think ComfyUI has a really steep learning curve to start out with, but once you understand it you're good. Good to know there's an actively developed successor to A1111 though.
Have been tryimg to unzip this file it won't unzip. Runs for more than an hour . Do you know what might be the problem.
I modified the webui-user.bat exactly like in the video but its not linking with automatic 111 models neither opening ForgeUI...
I had to change my slashes for the directory from backslash \ to forward slash / I've read in some cases it needs to be double [//] and your a1111 install location may be different so do not copy his exactly.
@@Jakeurb8ty82 I put the double[//], now its opening ForgeUI, but models are not available, I put the right address, in my case, C://pinokio//api//automatic1111.git
Question. i know about Forge and comfy UI. i know then comfy is more complicated but I wonder how it is about speed and memory. What will be better to use with low VRAM GPU, like 3080 10GB, 32GB RAM, 5900x, Win 10? I want to start with ComfyUI but i will start to learn next week. But it would be cool to know if one is more effective then others.
While I really like ComfyUI as I like building out the nodes and seeing how it all works and how changing them around can affect the output, I can't get the new Flux models to work without needing insane render times if it would even render as I constantly get cuda out of memory errors (this is on a some what powerful machine with a 3080). That also meant I couldn't use any of the stuff I would want to like IP adapter or Controlnets. That and Comfy seems to keep giving me more and more errors for whatever reason so I decided to try this UI and I was amazed at the difference in render times AND I didn't have to use the gguf models which also gave me issues in Comfy so yeah, if you are having issues even trying to play around with Flux models, give this UI a try.
Automatic1111 supporter through every error message and crash
Me too, still best for X/Y script Prompt S/R
I tried Forge last time Olivio released a video about it, but I didn't see any speed improvement over Auto1111. At least no visible one.
its never crashed for me, maybe you could say I dont use many advanced features often.
@@SupremacyGamesYT yeah, forge hasn't crashed for me either.
you lost me at the *quick list* could not find it ? il figgure it out though..
Can I run it in Google Colab?
Is there a linux implementation of this, or can I branch from A1111 to forge UI?
Putting SD_VAE in my quicksettings in forge ui didn't actually put the SD_VAE in my quick settings...
noob here. do i need to worry about git when having both a1111 and forge on my machine? will i get any git directory errors? would it be wise to uninstal any and all software related to a1111 before changing over to forge'?
hello when i launch forge does it always update or do i have to launch the update.bat once in a while please ?
They reallyyyy need animatediff working in Forge with all the speed improvements in place
animatediif works on forge since the beginning, of the resistance....
As stated above, Animatediff does work. You may need a specific fork of it but it's out there.
Yes Forge is lacking in video extensions.
why pythuon venv instead conda?
Hello, I have 35 folders in my models in ComfyUI and there is only 6 paths in your script, is it normal ? A lot are missing like unet, ipadapter, inpaint, etc…
right now I am using Fooocus for stable diffusion. how to link my Fooocus checkpoints folder to Forge UI?
Followed this, but every picture comes out blurry... ideas?
For Flux not every sampler is working, try default Euler Simple for beginning.
@@vitkaplin Rebooting fixed it, I think I had gunk in my VRAM
I tried forge for FLUX but it seems unstable on my computer, while SwarmUI works fine. The only issue with SwarmUI is that it doesnt save the image metadata in the images themselves.
my pc says its risking my pc of getting a virus when i click run
Is it normal that it takes forever to extract files after downloading One Click package? Iv been sitting for over 40 min and files er still extracting...
try disabling your anti virus software.
I move from A1111 to Forge UI because of the error SSL: CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED while intalling extensions. But I get the same error on Forge UI when I install "Instant-id". Please help. I use Windows 11 + GTX1080 Ti 11 GB VRAM.
I think Swarm UI is better
Switched to Forge recently. Works nice, just a bit disappointed with the Flux model. And I'm still not able to activate Clip Skip for XL/PONY. Or is it this Clip Skip for SDXL checkbox? Anyway. If you don't want to play around with Flux, you can still use A1111.
What about AMD? Any solution?
How to make controll net(canny, depth, ip adapter, open pose...) work on Forge with flux?
controlNet does not work well in Forge, you may get all kinds of Errors
set COMMANDLINE_ARGS= --no-half --lowvram --opt-split-attention --xformers --api
currently using this IN A1111 and do i need to use lowvram on forgeUI? 4gb VRAM user here
Invoke got a nice update lately tho. And it's like on the another end of the UI/UX principal to the ComfyUI.
It's solid and easy to use. Artist friendly. Also offer some level of node workflow which isn't as powerful as Comfy but instead make someone that knows the nodes could make an automated tool out of it for a non-node user. Which the interface also offer to hide the node and see only the selected inputs and the user just press the generate button to run that workflow.
Does the local/community version have feature parity with the priced options? I remember seeing Invoke a year or so ago and was really impressed with its ux/ui. The AI scene is just f--king exploding constantly and I want just one tool I can really settle into and learn really well. I know ComfyUI is probably the most robust toolset but its ux/ui looks like a nightmare. At that point I'd rather just paint the actual images mysef.
Invoke is God tier Inpainting outpainting. Wish Forge could combine with Invoke for that alone.
Comfyui might have a steaper learning curve, but it can do almost anything.
I installed Forge via Stability Matrix. But in some Models there is a "Clip" error. I use rtx 3070 and usualy it works fine.
Very nice… your recommendation is meaningful. Can it do LoRA training?
Does Forge work on Mac?
Well, I got it installed and the models sorted and installed, but every time I tell it to generate any image under flux It renders the image and then at the last moment it turns into a grey slab of nothing. My first thought was some kind of nsfw filter being tripped but there doesn't appear to be such a thing and nothing I am typing would ever cause such to trip in any case. ''a forest'' is hardly too hot for TV but seems to hot for forgeUI, I presume I have buggered something up somehow.
you probably use the wrong VAE. use the VAE i show in the video.
@@OlivioSarikas got it :D ooooo, shiny isnt it, and it does hands fine! :D Thank you friend.
@@OlivioSarikas Sorry to bother you again, just a quick question, does animatediff work with it? if not is there an alternate that does? thanks :o) I know you show in your vid bu for some reason the extensions for such are not showing up after installing from the git repo inside Forge, broken via update perhaps?
Final conclusion: it''s good, but its not ready / still need more development. Right now latest version has broken a boat load of extensions, animated and many others, and refiners is unavailable with a note on it that says @down for maintenance@ 🤷🤷. I can install a prior version to get the various modules working but this breaks and / or removes other things now present in the latest version, including flux. I can see it being my go to in a few months if it all gets fixed up anew.
IMO, it's way easier to setup Forge, Fooocus, SwarmUI, ComfyUI, etc via Stability Matrix. One click install, models can be downloaded via Stability Matrix and shared with the other WebUIs, image output folders can be shared, too and you always get the most up to date version of these WebUIs...at least for Forge, Foocus, and ComfyUI, which I have installed on my PC.
wait till you try installing roop in comfyui
At least in regards Colab Notebook versions of Forge--there is still no support for Controlnet batch processing. Forge only processes the first image. Been an unresoved bug going on seven months.
Is it any faster than comfy? Flux takes half an hour to generate a single image in comfyui for me
3060 12
1024 1024 30 step: gguf q5 160 sec, nf4 88sec
Good day sir! I'm very new to all this SD thing. One issue I encounter is that when I create images with my favorite model, it only works well at a specific resolution. When I increase the resolution, I face the problem of duplicated characters. Is there any way to solve this issue? How can I create an image with my favorite model at the desired resolution? Thank you for taking the time to respond!
Not the OP, but check if the UI has hires fix. Generate the images at the resolution they're most ideally generated from, but turn on hires fix and change the scale to upscale after the first generation.
Why not just do it via stability matrix, you've covered this? Most of the config file editing is done for you. And no need to move models.
I've been using forge with flux for a couple of weeks now. It's perfect for what I need it for.
@@bemusedkidney8619 does it support "Control net" and "LORA" ?
Does it support "Control net" and "LORA"?
Lora is working perfectly. You just need to activate fp16 lora from the top tabs
@@kiransurwade3576Lora yes, controlnet no, not yet.. unless I've set it up wrong lol
So i download loras for flux on civitai but idk if theyre working? In forge.
the train tab is mysteriously missing, but training is still a sub menu in the settings
Forge has moved to beta forever and we be a testing ground for features that's going to be ported to A1111 after testing. So it will always be ahead of A1111 in terms of commits but A1111 will always be more stable
A1111 nothing has happened for the 2nd month, there is no information about the next release, the project seems to be frozen
@@havemoney ya I was gonna say, isn't A1111 a dead project?
@@Exaltar A1111 and Forge are convenient for me, what will happen with A1111 will we are waiting for information from the developer.
@@havemoneyThere were a few commits in the dev branch two weeks ago, so it's not completely dead
Since the last update for forgeui it keeps moving and patching loras and it takes a lot of time, anyone is facing the same problem?
What about xformers?
FLUX NF4 V2 included:
T5xxl in fp8e4m3fn
CLIP-L in fp16
VAE in bf16
We don't need to download CLIP-L and ae.safetenssor again right?
Right, they all already integrated in NF4 and work fine with it alone, no need to download them separately. It is need only if to use other versions of that encoders and VAE.
where were you all this time? Forge is amazing (again) since the first days of Flux release
for mac m1 ? please ser
I don't know why it didn't get mentioned or I missed it - Forge is mostly a downstream version of A1111 webui ("Forge is a platform on top of Stable Diffusion WebUI") with stuff added to it, so it wouldn't probably wouldn't even exist without the work put into the original webui. Also, there is no point of moving or copying large model files, better create one big folder where you store the models, then create symbolic links into A1111 and Forge folders. That works nicely when you have 5+ different UIs for SD, so you don't have to move models around and you don't have to bloat your installs.
Does it also work on AMD Graphics?
Good luck
"A1111 is no longer supported" - really???