she was better than the bottom 1/3rd of the ranks regardless ... and at some tracks, even higher.... Nascar had quite a few, non-drivers then, and still do
@@sergeantmasson3669 dude! Petty is like the Burt Reynolds of racing!! Muldowney Force Garlits...thier chaacters and carisme allow folks like me who think its redundant to prove circle times and numbers to like the sport/ hobby/ industry/ activity:) Be carefull of those fumes!!
She was a marketing gimmick and little more. She was a solid Indy driver, but a poor cup driver. Doesn’t help that her personality made her one of the least likable drivers in the sport. The media pushed her, the fans and other drivers hated her.
Personality? Most NASCAR drivers are assholes: Tony Stewart, Kyle Busch, Tony Lagano. The double standard is obvious for anyone not caught up in it. She was mid, not great, but you KNOW you give her more shit than anyone who finished behind her.
I remember how everyone was going on about how she was a "trailblazer", like she was the first female to drive at Indy. They forget Janet Guthrie, Lyn St. James, Sarah Fisher... Danica simply had a powerful publicity machine that hyped her up to oversaturation. She's like todays music industry darlings: not outstanding on talent or ability, but very attractive and easily marketable.
You'd think the car would even the playing field, but this quote appears to be true for all sports. "You said Serena Williams is the best female tennis player ever, but why not the best tennis player ever?" "Because against a man she's average at best."
Yes, absolutely! Most of her crashes were due to her trying to pit maneuver other drivers and then lose control. Nascar should have banned for this right away, but they wanted the marketing value of having a lady driver, what BS.
Unfortunately, Danica made it dangerous for everyone on the track. I was hoping that she would be a far better driver than she was. My husband and I would make guesses on how many laps it would take her to wreck.
@@johncasey1020 Agreed. The amount of ink she got was grossly disproportionate to her actual accomplishments. The Force sisters, Erica Enders, Alexa DeJoria, and Leah Pruett, just to name a few, have accomplished way more and deserve the high praise they receive, not just from their fans but from their fellow racers as well.
Long story short she wasn't that good. There have been worse drivers but those drivers weren't hyped up buy NASCAR and the NASCAR media as Superstars before they had ever even hit the track.
@Carystus Gaming bro she literally can't wreck someone without wrecking herself. Also if she does get wrecked she gets really mad (maybe cause she was in Indy and there wasn't a lot of contact but still) like it's nascar. And it's not the game if she's not good then that's her fault, the game doesn't make her get pissed whenever she crashes, and sure that would get me mad but as I said it's nascar.
Her interview on JRE a few years back was really interesting. She’s not a car lover, owns zero sports cars, and drove whatever SUV her sponsor gave her. She openly says she didn’t care at all about cars or driving. Really strange career bc it’s a person who’s not interested in the cars, the media saying she’s gods gift to Motorsport, and her trailing and crashing constantly.
Many such cases where a conventionally attractive young woman only gets into a certain typically male dominated field as a "diversity hire" to garner publicity and boost ratings or funding
Guess who else wasn’t crazy about having a car collection and was more interested in airplanes than cars? Ayrton Senna. Not that she is remotely comparable, but being a gear head doesn’t mean anything.
I remember being excited to follow a woman in Motorsports when she first hit the scene. We all followed with interest. And I vividly remember her crashing, and then crashing again, and then again and again. To which point I think we all just started second guessing our excitement.
If your interested in women in motorsport check out michele mouton there is a documentary out there somewhere absolutely amazing women and rally driver
@@NorthernChev Janet Guthrie (born March 7, 1938, Iowa City, Iowa, U.S.) American race-car driver who in 1977 became the first woman to compete in the Indianapolis 500. Guthrie earned a pilot's license at the age of 17.
She was one of the reasons I lost interest in NASCAR. She got more undeserved attention and we were sick of having endless updates about her during races while numerous other drivers were ignored!
Yep. So miss the nascar of the 80’s and 90’s that I used to like to watch with my Pawpaw. When racing was racing and cheating wasn’t cheating if it wasn’t in the rule book.
Those 2000 cows that died in Kansas 2 months ago didn't die of heat-stroke. Danica was driving inside that cow pasture for 10min tryna find the gate. 🧟♀🐮🐄💀
I had ties with her dad for a while. Talked about the monster truck business (which he was in for decades), and other stuff like his schedule. Was a fan of her’s when I was like 18, but my love for NASCAR just decayed over time.
I quit watching NASCAR when Dale Earnhardt was allowed to PIT people without penalty, criticism, or even a rule-change to put a stop to it. Considering the lives that he put in danger, I don't feel bad about how he went out.
Met her a few times at sponsor events, and she was not happy and had an attitude. Everyone who met her was sad to see how disgruntled she was. Gave stupid canned answers and not fun to talk to. Tony Stewart on the other hand was so fun and talked to us like a regular person.I think deep down she knew she was a bad driver.
Plenty of instances of him lambasting her driving over the radio. But she brought in the money, at least until GoDaddy dropped her, then it didn't take Tony long to drop her too.
Danica is easy to look at but that is about it. She opens her mouth and ruins the illusion. It made me mad ESPN had her help announcing the F1 race in Miami.
Very good analysis and conclusion. I do recall that Danica "Crash" Patrick was a legend in her own mind, however. Having an abrasive personality doesn't work well for anyone, especially when her estimation of her abilities didn't match reality.
She needed to learn how to put her elbows up and mix it up to get the respect of the male drivers... she just didn't have the level of anger in her to climb to that goal... She has ability... she was better than over half the field in that, her qualifying showed that... It was her failure to be able to take a hit and react in a timely manner... so she got taken advantage of a lot... She never had it in her to walk over after a race and kick a guy in the balls like she should have right off the hop... then she would have been handled a bit differently... guaranteed
Especially when they're female, right? I guess she shoulda just sat down and not made a peep. Indy car and Stock car racing has a ton of assholes in it.
@@TroyC68 - Nobody can take you seriously when you think someone whose average starting position is 25th (Danica in Cup) is better than half of the field. Even your math can’t be that bad ...
The saddest thing here is that her case illustrates best the problems in racing, from stockcars to even F1. Many drivers are there just because they bring in more money. Not because of their talent. Some are marketable (i.e Danica Patrick) and others through their rich family can bring in dollars (i.e Nicholas Latifi, Mazepin...).
there`s marketable, then there`s pushing a narrative; you can be marketable if you are good, you can push a narrative if you belong to a group and are given the chance whether you`re good or not, endangering everything and everyone else.
@@TheCentralScrutinizerAgain Those are the same thing. Her identity is something people buy into because that's how American culture is and if people buy into it, advertisers do too. Pushing a narrative IS an exercise in marketing and you need marketable people for it. Merely being good at something is generally not marketable, at least to a mass audience. It might be marketable in a particular niche but to appeal to a large audience there generally needs to be some charm there. If charming enough, talent can be dispensed with entirely.
For comparison, one recalls Amelia Earhart becoming quite famous for being the first woman to fly great distances around the world in solo engine planes. But she was not technically sound nor did she practice much and when she entered local flying races, she often finished dead or second from last.
Amelia Earhart was a great pilot. Yes, great. She was not in the "elite class," she wasn't fuckin' dogfight'n WWII maverick, but for her time and place she was great. Yes, some other women were good, too..no, life isn't fair, not everyone has a Putnam in their corner, not everyone has the right combo of timing, support, luck, etcetera. Earhart was an articulate, forward thinking person who pioneered many things, chief among them being a decently articulate & career focused broad who wed for the career advantage and did great distances above the clouds flying in many of those ghastly pre-1930s single engine deathtraps. No comparison to a girl driving a fast car in circles on TV on the 21st century...it's just a different world now. Patrick was a good driver, too...but "good" means so-so in the big leagues.
@@VanishedPNW Didn't mean to offend or diminish Earhart's contribution. There are, of course, different types of flying and fliers. Come to think of it, I believe Putnam entered her in a number of these competitive races for publicity and potential income streams. So perhaps she was trying to be a good sport without her heart truly being into it. Ms. Patrick almost made me forget about Janet Guthrie, who I believe raced back in the '70's, so she by no means was the first.
Indy car has a better class of everything,but I really think that people like Kyle were much of the problem. Very misogynistic to say such a thing and likely part of her issues is that many if not most of the drivers felt that way. She did not start on a level playing field with drivers feeling that way before giving her a chance. Just saying, how did she qualify so well but have trouble in traffic so much? Could be her or it could be a lot of folks who did not want her there. My bet is the later.
@@markpashia7067 meh, she jumped straight into the toughest division in Nascar and tried to hard at times and it cost her. She should have maybe started in a lower rank to get used to the tracks and build herself up physically. Stop being an sJw.
its only because she was promoted to be the best, and beat all these men and she ends up crashing almost anytime so now, channels like this can make their own money by promoting how bad she actually is.
My memories of her…always wrecking, always blaming someone else, temper tantrums, me first attitude, DW having the big O every time he talked about her.
Undoubtedly the best female stock car driver ever? Janet Guthrie would like a word with you. She, without absurd sponsor backing and riding for a nobody team, was able to put it in the top 10 5 times in her only real season. With the backing that Danica got, Guthrie probably could’ve won some races
Hornet Guy, coulda, woulda, shoulda but she didn't. Janet Guthrie was NOT the best female NASCAR driver either. Danica Patrick was. 2013 Daytona 500 pole position at 196.43 mph. 17 top 10's and she led 133 laps in NASCAR. Danica Patrick bested Jenet Guthrie in the Indy Cars series also.
Some foreign drivers come to mind. Nastycar just went all political and leftist. It’s become a joke! Now its like some reality show recipe. You gotta have all the minorities, idiots, and fringe groups. So EVERYONE will have someone to pull for! 🙄 But first they jumped into bed with the manufacturers and tried to even the playing field making all cars equal. Because some were about as aerodynamic as hoover dam. They also bowed to political pressure! Remember when it was the Winston Cup & the Busch series? Now its more like the tampax cup and bitch series! And they started the restrictor plate BS. They’re RACE CARS they’re SUPPOSED TO GO FAST! Then, everyone had to be a winner. So they broke the races up into segments so everyone could get a participation trophy!
Reminds me of a certain female commentator for the NHL in recent years who was HORRIBLE. Was pretty much universal from fans how bad she was. When she was called out by fans she blamed it on being bullied for being a female which was untrue. I'm all for women in sports if they're qualified. I just hate when they are placed there for "other" reasons when they obviously don't deserve it or earned it. It's just frustrating.
Everything Danica did -- or, more accurately, didn't do -- was magnified because girl. She got a lot of recognition she didn't deserve and is therefore held in more disdain than she deserves. In a perfect world, most people would never have heard of her.
And an attractive woman, too. That made a difference on both sides of that equation. I’ll never forget the moment she took the lead at the 500 and I watched hundreds of thousands of people stand up at the same time as me. She was a real driver, but her legacy was harmed by hype.
Some of those you can't pin on her, tho. 2 of them when she was in the middle of a tight pack with no way to avoid wrecks in front of her....she can't be blamed for those.
This is why I love when the Sky F1 pundits ask for her opinion on racing matters. Sure she has raced but I’m not sure how much expertise she can provide on the pinnacle of motorsport.
F1 is the pinnacle? You mean the racing where you win the pole and then get help from your teammates to keep you in the lead? The one that's boring because there are hardly any lead changes? That one?
@@Yyyyyyy44 Yeah F1 is the pinnacle by far, regardless what your opinion of it is. Its where the best money is, so it draws the most talent in. Of course it also draws in money drivers. Also funny how you say "you win the pole", like you just do it no big deal. Also F1 is boring because for the past years its been dominated by the best race drivers on the planet, Verstappen and before him, Hamilton.
A moment of silence for the people behind the scenes that have to piece together the twisted mess of a car when Danica is done thrashing the living snot out of it.
@Robert Sears best female driver, but her NASCAR career was ver underwhelming compared to her fantastic indycar career. But I think whats most aggravating was that the media treated her like another Richard petty, when she was really a mid to lower mid pack driver in the NASCAR series.
@Robert Sears then why did she get only 7 tops 10s in a 5 year run in the cup series. She was a lower mid pack driver. Drivers never went out to get her. She would get loose, crash, get mad, wreck others, get wrecked out, and then the media would make it like she was the chosen one. She had good equipment, but she was bad a retaliation so she wrecked everything.
She won one race in her career - Indy Car in Japan, when she was at the back of the pack (again) and, when everyone else ahead of her crashed out in the rain, managed to reach the finish line.
she was so bad i always said she should have her own lane on the track so she wouldnt get in the way while being lapped and also wouldnt cause any wrecks
@@TrebleChild She was crap her whole career. She caused more wrecks in NASCAR than any driver had in probably the last 50 years. All she was for NASCAR was T@A ,window dressing for then to say "we are all inclusive" They are doing the same for that no talent hack Bubba Wallace.
She always reminded me of a *NAKED GUN* gag wherein anything within 50 yards of her bursts into flames. Her car, other cars, the walls, the track, the flags
Danica's biggest flaw was her inability to remain focused and control her child sized temper. When I saw her stamping her little feet like a child, and blaming her crew for a loss in Indy cars, I lost 92%of my respect her. I figured, if she carried that attitude over to bump and grind Winston cup(whatever it is now)that she would burn out. Would anyone like some suggestions on lottery numbers?
There’s a lot wrong with her, but her temper isn’t any worse than basically every man in the sport. Punching a wall or jumping on someone’s car is no better than stamping your feet
During a trip through Albuquerque in 2015 I visited the Unser Family Racing museum (an awesome place which every racing fan should see!). Al Unser Senior happened to be there that day, and it was a tremendous honor to meet the four-time Indianapolis 500 winner! Al insisted I try out his new Indycar simulator, and it took awhile to stay off the walls and get even some semblance of speed. All the while, Al Sr stood watching over my shoulder - at one point he said speed it up Rick, you're about to be lapped by Danica Patrick!
The fact that I don't even watch NASCAR and TH-cam still recommended this video tells me what I need to know. Watched anyway. Good video, easy to follow for someone who only has a passing knowledge of the sport.
I had buddies that were simping for Danica Patrick. They said she was their favorite driver even though she wasn't winning. Hell some of my favorite drivers like Jimmie Johnson n Jeff Gorden were doing better. Even during their concluding years
She technically didn't "win". Other drivers lost due to fuel. Some might say she had a good fuel strategy which is part of racing. Others might say, it wasn't a strategy, and that she was unintentionally so slow that she wasn't using any fuel.
@@SmithCommaBenjamin Except Danica had the hype and attitude of the 1% that conistently win, without winning. Her one win wasnt do to her driving ability but because the front pack had to pit.
I used to be a custodian at Go Daddy and they had her car in the building. Every night I'd have to ride the floor machine to clean the building. One night I accidentally smacked it right into her car.
@@pocketgrim4942 True, E. Humperdinck never realized his careless punctuation of the word "dudes" could cause such a Catastrophic Apostrophe in the comments. 😲🤣🤪
So my family was very involved in Indycar and the IMS from the 1960s-2010s (sponsored different drivers like AJ Foyt). My grandfather helped her land one of her first sponsors during her indycar career (peak motor oil). When she came up to our suite to grace us with her presence, she was very cold and outright indifferent to my grandfather, who only had a mere two months left to live as his cancer had spread all over his body wishing the span of a year. I have resented her ever since. I understand having to keep your guard up in a male dominated sport but my grandfather really did just want the very best for her, he wanted a driver my sisters could look up to. Instead we got Danica!
I don't ever recall hearing similar things about drivers like katherine legge, sarah fisher, janet guthrie, lyn st. james, etc.i think you can be a woman in racing and not be cold and an ingrate.
In championship level equipment, only 7 top 10 finishes, and 31 DNF's in 190 starts. Not to mention an average finish of 24.1 and a best points finish of 24th. That's how bad she was.
C.J. O'Dell Danica was far better than you could ever be. BTW, your info is incorrect. NASCAR, 17 top 10's and she led 133 laps. She also won the 2013 Daytona 500 pole at 193.46 mph, led several laps, top 5 until the last 3 laps, and finished 8th. She became the most successful female race car driver in auto racing history, including NASCAR. BEFORE judging others, make sure that you are perfect first.
@@Stupidfastracing Documented facts too difficult for your low IQ level to comprehend? What's your success in professional level motorsports racing, CUPCAKE?
I have to disagree with you regarding INDYCAR. Her finishes sound impressive until you see that INDYCAR fields are HALF the size of nascar fields. Also remember that she spent a few years driving for Michael Andretti, one of the top teams. When she left for nascar, Andretti smirked “I could always count on Danica to finish 13th...” She had ONE victory in over 100 starts, putting her on par with another driver who got a sweet opportunity without merit: Marco Andretti.
It was all downhill for her after that 4th place finish at the Indy 500 and yes I know she won japan after that. Marco was much more of a contender and came super close to winning the 500 one of his first years… he also went downhill but has always been consistently more competitive than danica ever was.
My main complaint with Danica was that she was nothing more than a marketing gimmick. She may have had a successful career in NASCAR had she worked her way through the ranks, advancing via success like most other drivers (notice I say most). Her obvious privilege did not help her. And it made her the target of other drivers. It's a shame because she set women in motorsports back 50 years.
I don't think we're even gonna see another woman in NASCAR until Dale Jrs daughters start racing and (possibly) work their way into NASCAR. I have full faith that Jr is gonna raise them right and teach them well
She didnt ...nascar did. Marketing gimmick is all the French's right? The money is obscene. And a crash requires an interview.... so swimsuit model doing an interview every race. And the guys line up to throw shit at her. lol. Like they would. Astro turfed drama.
Honestly she was everywhere. Even people who didn't watch NASCAR and racing in general knew who she was because she was everywhere. I just assumed she was a good driver and broke stereotypes.
Danica had talent, she should have stayed in Indycar to increase her skills. instead she took the money and was rushed through the nationwide series to cup, that is much too fast for someone who was use to racing open wheel cars.
@@sergeantmasson3669 What does that have to do with anything?! Ken Price is not out there pretending to be good and having people blatantly lie about how good he is, Danica was.
Know what's even more shocking? Danica had two races (Daytona 2013 and Kansas 2014) where she had a driver rating of over 100. That's two more than Cole Custer has had in three years on the same team!
@@Duval-In-The-Wall Custer won a race where he led five laps and had an average running position outside the top ten. What I'm saying is that Danica's best overall race (average running position, laps inside the top fifteen, quality passed, etc) is better than Custer's best overall race, even if he's beaten her best finish twice.
@@seannolan9857 I mean in a race it’s more about finishing position than anything else. Not to mention one of those races you mention was on a plate track Idk what the defense here is, Danica’s record is beyond abysmal
I listened to an interview with her awhile back. She made a comment that she was not really into cars, did not get to know her mechanics and had no interest in turning wrenches/working with her crew. I know a couple IndyCar pilots. They may not be mechanics or engineers but they get to know their crew and will help out where needed. Danica did not....and that tells you more than you need to know. I wished she had done better but her questionable commitment doomed her.
I've called her princess permapout. not my nickname, it's from reading posts of former competitor crews in the paddock. that kind of attitude will not work in a fan forward focused organization like nascar.
@@Baconatorz I mean, a lot of people love driving but have no idea how a car works… but yeah you’d imagine that if you’re racing them, where car build quality and your pit team are major factors, you’d be expected to at least be interested
Couple times I went to Dover I wore headphones that allowed you to listen in on the drivers and their spotters. I listened in on Danica and all she did was complain about the car the entire time.
She consistently was given some of the best cars with the most funding yet still was mediocre or worse when she wasn't crashing, in both Indy and stock cars. She also would blame anyone and everyone but herself. Now she's a pundit for Sky Sports Formula 1 without knowing a single thing about Formula 1.
@@sergeantmasson3669 wtf kind of argument is that? lol. Of course some guy on TH-cam isn’t a better driver than a professional driver. That doesn’t mean she was a solid competitor in nascar.
@@Matt-vz5wy She was far better than the 118 previous female drivers in NASCAR since 1949. None better since her either. Indy Cars series, far better than all previous drivers previous to her and none better since her there either. Could you do better? Guaranteed not. Get back to me when you've driven a pro-level motorsports race car at 200+ mph. I have done so many times and won a few times.
You could point to scores of drivers over the past decade that she outperformed. However, she had the best equipment so expectations were much higher. She was average at best. She was a marketing dream.
Sure. She didn't do all that well, but she was far from the dumpster fire Patrick is. She is an engineer by education, a pilot; well, you get the picture. She's pretty cool.
Danica left Indycar when the talent pool was increasing throughout the field. The weight advantage that she'd used to qualify well had been changed and the rules rewritten so that driver weight advantages were removed. Indycar was increasingly leaving (or losing) ovals and adding road and street courses. Not a strongpoint for Danica. Her one win in Indycar came during a fuel mileage run, and Helio pretty much let her pass because they didn't realize she was on the lead lap. Lots of drivers have won fuel mileage races, few drivers have ONLY won one race and that be via fuel mileage. Many of Danica's finishes were the result of those kinds of pit gambles. Her Indycar team(s) frequently gambled with pit strategy to artificially gain her position, which sounded good for fans, TV, and sponsors, until she had to pit in a few laps and lose those positions. Unless they got a well-timed yellow. But it still didn't normally lead to a win... except that one time in Japan... Anyone at the track, or paying attention on TV, saw one of the worst drivers on restarts in Danica. It was almost guaranteed Danica would go backwards on restarts. The myth of her "almost" winning Indy was simply the product of hype and wishful thinking. She'd made a mistake earlier that brought out a late yellow that helped her. Again, an opportunity for a pit strategy developed to artificially move her up in the field in the final stage of the race. So yes, she DID lead late, and you can't take that away... but barring a late yellow and LONG cleanup (which didn't happen), she could not actually win that race because she was outgunned in experience, talent, and fuel in those final laps. One of the loudest boos I've ever heard at Indy was for Danica during driver introductions the year she'd thrown her team under the bus. Her 15 minutes of fame were rapidly coming to an end in Indycar. She wasn't getting closer to a championship. It was slipping even more out of her grasp. Reality was setting in. Just like it did in Nascar. She made the move to Nascar, either hoping the nearly all-oval series might suit her better than Indycar, or simply going for the money before her Indycar image was tarnished any deeper than it already was. In either case, taking the money and running before anyone figured out she was more hype than driver. Danica was never going to win an Indycar championship. The field was too strong, and the tracks to tough, and both getting tougher when she left. She probably did help encourage females to enter the sport and that is good. But she likely also overshadowed some better female drivers.
I remember in the early 2010s, there was a woman named Johanna Long driving for what was easily one of the worst teams on the grid and often finishing in the top 20. Sponsorship woes ended up cutting her career short. Obviously: it's no guarantee that she could've been a contender, but she never got that chance in the first place.
She drove for some of the best racing teams in both open wheel and Nascar. I think one victory. A pretty lady and a horrible driver. I called her middle of the pack Patrick.
I was 100% behind and rooting for Danica. Right up until the end of her first Indy 500. She was in third and had a real chance to make a run for the win. But Dan Wheldon, who was in second, scared her with a blocking move. At that point, Danica stopped trying and settled for third. It was right then I knew she didn't have it.
She never had a chance to win at Indy unless a caution came out. She was in that position because she screwed up early and was off pit sequence as a result.
As a driver with an SCCA Competition License, I learned years ago that driving skill and racing skill are two completely different and unrelated skill sets. Just because a driver has the skill to get a really fast lap out of a car on completely clear racetrack (such as a during qualifying, or at a Time Trials/Time Attack event) has no benefit if your racecraft skills are lacking. The best and fastest race drivers are the ones who can both can both gain position when in a pack of other cars by knowing when and when not to make a move (instantly recognizing those fleeting moments where making a move will net you a clean pass AND acting on it and having the patience to wait for a driver in front of you to make a mistake) and are also fast enough drivers to gain ground when the track is clear in front of you. Plenty of insanely fast Time Attack drivers would get their asses handed to them by a pack of skilled amateurs in wheel-to-wheel racing.
I disagree with your statement on time attack drivers losing to amateurs. I think it's a gross overgeneralization of what they can do. Just my thoughts on that. Otherwise, cheers. I hope you continue to do well in the SCCA.
I'm learning this in Sim Racing. I've got a HAAS Road To Glory on F1 2021. I can set the car up decently. I can get into the.2nd.round of qualifying. Race starts are either miraculous or nightmares. Andcas soon as the tires go off, I get into trouble pitting onto a harder compound and I'm usually not patient enough with the first few laps getting the tires where they need to be. Oh and I suck in traffic. Lol. Fun but frustrating.
@@Angrynood It's a totally different sport. It's like saying a professional boxer could beat an amateur BJJ black belt in an MMA match. As long as they stay on their feet and it's pure striking, sure, but as soon as it goes to the mat the boxer is in trouble. Same is true with TT drivers. They are excellent at running the best geometric line through an empty circuit. Throw them into an actual race where they don't have a wide-open track and they're completely out of their wheel-house. Driving and racing are not the same thing. The best racers spend decades developing racecraft, a skill most TT drivers don't ever need to learn.
@@purpletigerracing7087 same, I can turn out lap times on spa a second off a pro’s pace, but my race craft is absolute garbage. I get scared driving near another driver because I don’t trust myself to properly make a move without wrecking both of us. And if the guy behind me is pressing me I usually just let them by cuz I fear blocking will also cause a wreck.
Her success in open wheel racing had more to do with how they weighed the cars than her actual skill. Often times her car/driver weight was 50 to 100 pounds lighter than the other competitors. That is a lot.
@@rrmorris67 and in her open wheel season she finished better than her team mates in points, Andretti motorsports (specifically TK) was getting in her car during practice and setting it up because she was incapable of determining what changes were needed to go fast. Janet Guthrie she was not
Horsepower to weight ratio... And then there's the center of gravity and "G" forces in a car that relies on sticking to the track to go fast around corners. HUGE advantage for her there.
The ONLY reason most people even know her name is because she was marketable and her PR team knew they could make big bucks off this stunt, more if she actually did well. She was young, female and (most would say) attractive and that’s the ONLY reason she became known.
@@TingTingalingy She had….an abrasive personality, the kind you’re only allowed to have when you’re among the very best. Otherwise, you’re not worth the headache
@Lighthouse in the Storm if that's true, that's a real shame she was so heavily promoted. Really bugs me when women tell their daughters to look up to women that are a complete lie.
In Australia, we had Simona de Silvestro, a former open wheel driver who couldn't cut it in the V8 Supercar series. She was imported directly without going through the feeder series and it showed in her performance. What's annoying is that she was selected over other up and coming female drivers that were working their way through the lower series and single handed killed the chances for women drivers for the next 10 years!
Danica had the same effect. There were plenty of better female drivers but they weren't as attractive or refused to wear skimpy outfits in ads so Danica got all the attention. It told all the younger female drivers that if they weren't willing or able to trade on thier sex appeal their actual talent didn't matter. As a result, more women turned away from motorsports after her.
Switching the type of car you race can be a hard thing for some. Jimmy Johnson is having a hard time also switching to Indy cars. Some like Al Unser, Mario, Foyt and Kurt Bush had no problems. But most just have a hard time with the change. Driving a car with a lot of downforce was the most challenging thing I ever did. Your traction, braking and how fast you can go around a turn all varies with your speed.
@Mccool Files he just told you. Cars have to be built in such a way as to not lift off the ground at high speeds. Cars that are built with wings to keep it grounded are probably hard to get used to. Also physics. Constantly changing wind speeds etc if you're driving on public roads
I agree with the thought that she should have stayed in IndyCar. She was seeing some serious success there, and was, at minimum, a competent, competitive driver. After losing Paul Dana and Dan Wheldon, though, I feel like she saw safety as an issue, and that, coupled with sponsor dollars and notoriety, had her leaning toward NASCAR.
She had a huge advantage in Indy, they weighed the cars without the drivers. She was like 100lbs lighter then the people she competed against. Everyone criticized Robby Gordon for pointing that out but history and reality proved him correct.
I do not closely follow auto racing. But, I do check on the standings of the Indy and Stock Car racing several times a year. You are correct in that she did better in Indy cars. Yet, whenever I looked at the stock car standings it appeared that while she was not in the top group or the 2nd top group... she was ahead of more people in the standings than she was behind. So she was at least a slightly better than average stock car race car driver. Pretty amazing for someone who only started stock car racing later in her driving career. I believe that you are correct in that if she had stayed with Indy cars that she would have been a well respective threat in almost every race for many years. So she was a race car driver. She was just in the wrong cars on the wrong tracks when she tried stock car racing. I wish she had returned to Indy cars.
I heard that she even hit the wall while attempting to park her pov in the garage at her home. She quickly blamed the house for not being in the right place.
She was technically one of the greatest, because NASCAR drivers aren’t really paid to win, they’re paid to advertise. I don’t know the names of any other mediocre drivers - but I know Danica Patrick’s name.
@@timkasansky2528 What do you mean "get anywhere"? She finished in the top 10 in points four seasons in a row culminating in 5th before switching. Do you realize how difficult that is? How many competitors there are?
@@vandogtrailer6701 Others did better in the same team and lost the backing in a couple of years. She kept hers until she quit. Indycar points system is extremely generous to those who are "always around". In countless years driver got into contention wiithout winning a single race.
She wasn't as bad as we all remember, but we remember the bad so intensely because the hype created unreasonable expectations. The fact is, most drivers AREN'T elite drivers. A mediocre NASCAR driver is still a pretty damn good driver. But when that mediocre driver is getting MORE national media attention than the elites in the sport, that's going to create problems. And I think that affected her driving. I think she crashed as much as she did because she felt pressure to be more than she was. And so she pushed herself and made mistakes. Danica was an incredibly overhyped driver...but she wasn't a terrible driver.
You can keep saying she was in over her head, but as I recall, when she originally floated the idea of going Nascar, they said she should start at the bottom and earn her way up, like Jaun Pablo Montoya, which was met with an entitled attitude. She was a blight on the sport.
Danica was my idol. I was adoring her as goddess. But after I met her in Denny's and spoke with her, I chenge my mind and went back to mexico. Now Im happy as nurse
@Jackson Brown she finished fourth in the Indianapolis 500 after being in first with five laps to go She had to cruse easy She damn near ran out of fuel
You said it right in the beginning of the video - 5-foot-2, 100 pounds. That can work in lighter open-wheel cars, but is almost certainly too small to handle stock cars.
actually nascar allows 200 lbs for the driver in the total vehicle weight so a lighter driver allows weight to be moved around in the car,so a big advantage
going from open wheel to stock cars is no easy task.& vice versa.jimmie johnson is a great driver in anything, & look how he has struggled to grasp the indy cars.nascar & indycars are completely different animals & share so few similarities for anyone to be instantly successfull in both.
Jimmie was absolute shit at the Indy 500 this year. Had him as my second pick in the family pool (we sit at the end of the straight going into turn one for the last 53 years and been going longer than that, my grandpa is in one of the pictures of the 60’s bleacher collapse, was one of the first ppl on scene to help) my 3rd pick Santino Ferrucci did way better, seems like Jimmie is still getting a feel for open wheel and racing conservatively. First pick was Rinus Veekay who WILL win one of these years I’m sure of it (crashed out early this year running P3)
She did really good for a woman, how many women even made it into Indy cars? And she was better than a lot of men, she was never a back marker in either Indy or Nascar. She's a really smart person too, she does a popular podcast now.
My biggest memory of Danica was how she never thought an accident was her fault... she could have crashed in qualifying and her radio feed would be her yelling "what the hell?!?! Who wrecked me?!?!?"
This is so accurate. I always wondered why she took a very successful short Indy career and moved to a longer stint and far less successful NASCAR career. Even if not all the accidents were her fault (some were people crashing into her), she did cause more than her own share as well and the NASCAR career was a true disappointment.
she switched because the money was so much better in NASCAR.... Why do you think Jeff Gordon , Tony Stewart and Juan Pablo Montoya jumped to NASCAR when they got the chance.?
@@Buc_Stops_Here Not really; her 'success' in Indycar had much to do with her Gross Weight advantage over the field. That 'light-weight driver' Advantage did not follow her to NASCAR (and, with no huge weight-edge, her mediocrity was quickly revealed).
@@mikeholland6750 They do now....when she was there, they (for whatever reasons) were weighing the cars ~only~. When the decision was made to weigh car+driver, the 4'10" 100lb Patrick announced her departure. Coincidence; no doubt(!). Is it coincidence that her only win there was in a fuel-consumption race, that required pit-stop 'gamesmanship' to win? When her unfair weight-advantage was removed, she went to NASCAR....and lost that extra few laps between pits that made it look like she was Contending at the end of races. She was relying on late-lap yellows to capitalize, and they rarely materialized for her to profit from. Danice drove IndyCar right up until they made it ~fair~ for all drivers.....
Last year the pace car for the Daytona 500- a million- dollar Corvette- wrecked on the first turn of the pace lap at the beginning of the race. A half hour later on the first hole of the playoff to determine the winner of a PGA golf event one of the players swung at the ball, slipped, and fell right on his ass on nationwide tv.
She was terrible in open wheel, and all the other drivers hated her guts. As did the fans. She was what we call, "A moving chicane." No good in qualifying, terrible at taking orders, just an all around failure in IRL. If she'd come along just a few years earlier, she probably would gave been a fatality on any number of road course races. Sje was barely proficient.
Richard Petty was dead nuts right on Danica. "She can drive a race car, but she's not a race car driver".
Well said King....well said.
He's the King!
she was better than the bottom 1/3rd of the ranks regardless ... and at some tracks, even higher....
Nascar had quite a few, non-drivers then, and still do
@@artsomniacv-logcitybydanie1249 What did Richard Petty win after 1984 when Dale Sr joined RCR? NOTHING.
@@sergeantmasson3669 dude!
Petty is like the Burt Reynolds of racing!!
Muldowney Force Garlits...thier chaacters and carisme allow folks like me who think its redundant to prove circle times and numbers to like the sport/ hobby/ industry/ activity:)
Be carefull of those fumes!!
@@sergeantmasson3669 nah, dude
Never kept track of the sport. I always assumed she was pretty good considering how much she appeared in mainstream media. This is pretty eye opening.
She was a marketing gimmick and little more. She was a solid Indy driver, but a poor cup driver. Doesn’t help that her personality made her one of the least likable drivers in the sport. The media pushed her, the fans and other drivers hated her.
Personality? Most NASCAR drivers are assholes: Tony Stewart, Kyle Busch, Tony Lagano. The double standard is obvious for anyone not caught up in it. She was mid, not great, but you KNOW you give her more shit than anyone who finished behind her.
Same. I clicked this video thinking bad was slang lol
The fact that she appeared in MSM so much should have been your first clue. If MSM is saying something you can bet money that the opposite is true.
@@TruthIsTheNewHate84 Yeah and if you hear something on Fox News you can believe 20 million retards will believe it without question lol
Remember one race, the guy said, "Drivers... And Danica... Start your engines!"
It was a hilarious slip
I remember one 90's race that started with "gentlemen and Jimmy Spencer, start your engines"!
@@seannolan9857lol
It was James Franco, funny enough he actually meant it as an emphasis rather than a dig because he was a fan of hers (somehow).
😂 now I gotta explain to my wife why I was laughing and why it's funny
"Boogedy boogedy boogedy!! Let's go racing, boys, and Danica!!" -Darrell Waltrip
This summarizes her well: Jeff Gordon was once told over the radio, that’s Danica in from of him and he replied, “Ya I can see all five lanes of her”
Does that mean that she's all over the track?
@@-scorpionox-yea
@@-scorpionox- Yes, in racing terms it means she can't control her car and is unpredictable.
I remember how everyone was going on about how she was a "trailblazer", like she was the first female to drive at Indy. They forget Janet Guthrie, Lyn St. James, Sarah Fisher... Danica simply had a powerful publicity machine that hyped her up to oversaturation. She's like todays music industry darlings: not outstanding on talent or ability, but very attractive and easily marketable.
If I'm not mistaken Danica was the first woman to ever lead laps at Indy.
@@P46345 If you don't finish first, you're last. Doesn't matter what kind of pee pee you have. So either way she kind of sucked at everything.
@@P46345 Yep. First woman with a top 5 finish (4th) and then first to finish on the podium (3rd). First woman to win an Indy Car race.
Here's hoping for the Fansly in her post racing days.
You'd think the car would even the playing field, but this quote appears to be true for all sports.
"You said Serena Williams is the best female tennis player ever, but why not the best tennis player ever?"
"Because against a man she's average at best."
The problem with Danica was, her crashes took out a lot of other drivers. They had to pay for Danica's "fame".
That's the thing that really pissed me off about her. =(
Guarantee she took zero accountability too. I don’t even watch the sport. Just a prediction.
And she was taken out by other drivers' crashes.
Yes, absolutely! Most of her crashes were due to her trying to pit maneuver other drivers and then lose control. Nascar should have banned for this right away, but they wanted the marketing value of having a lady driver, what BS.
@@alchristensen8121 not nearly enough.
Unfortunately, Danica made it dangerous for everyone on the track. I was hoping that she would be a far better driver than she was. My husband and I would make guesses on how many laps it would take her to wreck.
😂😂lol!😂😂😂
Quite the drinking game haha
Most popular answer... 12 laps.
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Who had the most wins for being correct ??
I know this is kinda late, but my friends and I used to place bets as to how long Danicka would last before wrecking. Was fun.
What were the odds on her finishing?
Ha! Glad that she is out of NASCAR. Got sick of hearing her name repeated over and over every race. She got way too much attention. Hmm I wonder why?
Hate much?
@@johncasey1020 Agreed. The amount of ink she got was grossly disproportionate to her actual accomplishments. The Force sisters, Erica Enders, Alexa DeJoria, and Leah Pruett, just to name a few, have accomplished way more and deserve the high praise they receive, not just from their fans but from their fellow racers as well.
They were trying build the audience, but you guys sure don't want more women around. Did she crash as much as Mikey Waltrip did?
Long story short she wasn't that good. There have been worse drivers but those drivers weren't hyped up buy NASCAR and the NASCAR media as Superstars before they had ever even hit the track.
Richard (The King) Petty described Danica Patrick as: "She can drive fast, but she can't race."
"...by NASCAR...."
@Carystus Gaming bro she literally can't wreck someone without wrecking herself. Also if she does get wrecked she gets really mad (maybe cause she was in Indy and there wasn't a lot of contact but still) like it's nascar. And it's not the game if she's not good then that's her fault, the game doesn't make her get pissed whenever she crashes, and sure that would get me mad but as I said it's nascar.
@Carystus Gaming You forgot to mention she was forced to take her ball and go home!
She won races. Some guys never win anything. How bad are you making her out to be? And, by the way that’s ‘by Nascar’ not buy Nascar’.
Problem with Danica is she could get into the wall all by herself and still blame another driver.
Apparently you would blame yourself for others intentionally ramming you into that wall
Its funny when she would try to race dirty only to then eat wall herself lol.
@@pazsion It's good that you're getting into your feminine side. Maybe you need to rub one out.
so what you are saying is, she acted like a woman
so, the amber turd of nascar?
Her interview on JRE a few years back was really interesting. She’s not a car lover, owns zero sports cars, and drove whatever SUV her sponsor gave her. She openly says she didn’t care at all about cars or driving.
Really strange career bc it’s a person who’s not interested in the cars, the media saying she’s gods gift to Motorsport, and her trailing and crashing constantly.
Many such cases where a conventionally attractive young woman only gets into a certain typically male dominated field as a "diversity hire" to garner publicity and boost ratings or funding
Guess who else wasn’t crazy about having a car collection and was more interested in airplanes than cars? Ayrton Senna. Not that she is remotely comparable, but being a gear head doesn’t mean anything.
@@nelauren like takumi from initial D
@@nelauren it means a lot to care for the mechanics and be interested in the trade to get a better understanding.
Because narrative. Sad.
I remember being excited to follow a woman in Motorsports when she first hit the scene. We all followed with interest. And I vividly remember her crashing, and then crashing again, and then again and again. To which point I think we all just started second guessing our excitement.
If your interested in women in motorsport check out michele mouton there is a documentary out there somewhere absolutely amazing women and rally driver
She wasnt even the first wonan to drive Indy, lol
Women drivers for ya
@@oz_jones You have me curious as to who the first "wonan" in Indy was...
@@NorthernChev Janet Guthrie (born March 7, 1938, Iowa City, Iowa, U.S.) American race-car driver who in 1977 became the first woman to compete in the Indianapolis 500. Guthrie earned a pilot's license at the age of 17.
She was one of the reasons I lost interest in NASCAR. She got more undeserved attention and we were sick of having endless updates about her during races while numerous other drivers were ignored!
So did nascar going woke also affect it?
@@richardcranium3417That was the last nail in the coffin!
That bubba Wallace fiasco made everyone else lose interest. What a pandering, virtue signaling woke joke.
Yep. So miss the nascar of the 80’s and 90’s that I used to like to watch with my Pawpaw. When racing was racing and cheating wasn’t cheating if it wasn’t in the rule book.
@@chrisgrimes7178 Yeah, the last race me and the boys went to was Dover in 2007. That was the year we really felt that the party was over!
She kept a lot of people in business by recycling the scrap metal of all the cars she wrecked!
Plastic
Ouch 😣
😂Facts
th-cam.com/video/o_9nsT4j3Rw/w-d-xo.html
She also brought more money into Nascar than most of the drivers of her time.
they made her car as bright as possible so people could avoid her and she still managed to get into numerous wrecks...
😂😂😂 best comment
Brutal
Those 2000 cows that died in Kansas 2 months ago didn't die of heat-stroke. Danica was driving inside that cow pasture for 10min tryna find the gate.
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Yeah lmao the green sticks out like a sore thumb
My thoughts exactly lol
I had ties with her dad for a while. Talked about the monster truck business (which he was in for decades), and other stuff like his schedule. Was a fan of her’s when I was like 18, but my love for NASCAR just decayed over time.
I quit watching NASCAR when Dale Earnhardt was allowed to PIT people without penalty, criticism, or even a rule-change to put a stop to it. Considering the lives that he put in danger, I don't feel bad about how he went out.
Met her a few times at sponsor events, and she was not happy and had an attitude. Everyone who met her was sad to see how disgruntled she was. Gave stupid canned answers and not fun to talk to. Tony Stewart on the other hand was so fun and talked to us like a regular person.I think deep down she knew she was a bad driver.
Plenty of instances of him lambasting her driving over the radio. But she brought in the money, at least until GoDaddy dropped her, then it didn't take Tony long to drop her too.
Well at least she didn't kill anyone.
@@jondrew55 true on that.
@@jondrew55 Not for lack of trying. She couldn't even control her cars in the pits and mowed down a couple of pit workers.
Danica is easy to look at but that is about it. She opens her mouth and ruins the illusion. It made me mad ESPN had her help announcing the F1 race in Miami.
Very good analysis and conclusion. I do recall that Danica "Crash" Patrick was a legend in her own mind, however. Having an abrasive personality doesn't work well for anyone, especially when her estimation of her abilities didn't match reality.
She needed to learn how to put her elbows up and mix it up to get the respect of the male drivers... she just didn't have the level of anger in her to climb to that goal...
She has ability... she was better than over half the field in that, her qualifying showed that...
It was her failure to be able to take a hit and react in a timely manner... so she got taken advantage of a lot...
She never had it in her to walk over after a race and kick a guy in the balls like she should have right off the hop... then she would have been handled a bit differently... guaranteed
@@TroyC68 wait so it's ok for her to literally sexually assault a dude (kicking him in his balls)
Especially when they're female, right? I guess she shoulda just sat down and not made a peep. Indy car and Stock car racing has a ton of assholes in it.
@@TroyC68 - Nobody can take you seriously when you think someone whose average starting position is 25th (Danica in Cup) is better than half of the field. Even your math can’t be that bad ...
It's a wonder that the other drivers didn't refuse to race with her.
The saddest thing here is that her case illustrates best the problems in racing, from stockcars to even F1. Many drivers are there just because they bring in more money. Not because of their talent. Some are marketable (i.e Danica Patrick) and others through their rich family can bring in dollars (i.e Nicholas Latifi, Mazepin...).
I.e. it's fake hence the masonic checkerboard flag
there`s marketable, then there`s pushing a narrative; you can be marketable if you are good, you can push a narrative if you belong to a group and are given the chance whether you`re good or not, endangering everything and everyone else.
@@TheCentralScrutinizerAgain Those are the same thing. Her identity is something people buy into because that's how American culture is and if people buy into it, advertisers do too. Pushing a narrative IS an exercise in marketing and you need marketable people for it.
Merely being good at something is generally not marketable, at least to a mass audience. It might be marketable in a particular niche but to appeal to a large audience there generally needs to be some charm there. If charming enough, talent can be dispensed with entirely.
@@standardofexcellence oh god take your meds
It's auto racing....it's all about the money
For comparison, one recalls Amelia Earhart becoming quite famous for being the first woman to fly great distances around the world in solo engine planes. But she was not technically sound nor did she practice much and when she entered local flying races, she often finished dead or second from last.
Yeah, but I hear she retired on an island somewhere...
@@Tom-h3s4x no that's where she finished dead 😅
...so what's your point? Women don't belong in the pilot's seat or behind the wheel of a race car?
Amelia Earhart was a great pilot. Yes, great. She was not in the "elite class," she wasn't fuckin' dogfight'n WWII maverick, but for her time and place she was great. Yes, some other women were good, too..no, life isn't fair, not everyone has a Putnam in their corner, not everyone has the right combo of timing, support, luck, etcetera. Earhart was an articulate, forward thinking person who pioneered many things, chief among them being a decently articulate & career focused broad who wed for the career advantage and did great distances above the clouds flying in many of those ghastly pre-1930s single engine deathtraps.
No comparison to a girl driving a fast car in circles on TV on the 21st century...it's just a different world now. Patrick was a good driver, too...but "good" means so-so in the big leagues.
@@VanishedPNW Didn't mean to offend or diminish Earhart's contribution. There are, of course, different types of flying and fliers. Come to think of it, I believe Putnam entered her in a number of these competitive races for publicity and potential income streams. So perhaps she was trying to be a good sport without her heart truly being into it. Ms. Patrick almost made me forget about Janet Guthrie, who I believe raced back in the '70's, so she by no means was the first.
Essentially a 9 minute Danica Patrick wreck compilation
On moms 💀😭
And this was just the highlight reel...
Every video of her racing is a crash compilation...
Kyle Petty said as she started racing “she will never win a race.” I thought it was a pretty shit thing to say, but it turns out that he wasn’t wrong.
Seems to me like she tried to hard, this is probably what pushed her.
Indy car has a better class of everything,but I really think that people like Kyle were much of the problem. Very misogynistic to say such a thing and likely part of her issues is that many if not most of the drivers felt that way. She did not start on a level playing field with drivers feeling that way before giving her a chance. Just saying, how did she qualify so well but have trouble in traffic so much? Could be her or it could be a lot of folks who did not want her there. My bet is the later.
Ngl I thought you said Kerry Perry and was confused for a second
@@markpashia7067 meh, she jumped straight into the toughest division in Nascar and tried to hard at times and it cost her. She should have maybe started in a lower rank to get used to the tracks and build herself up physically. Stop being an sJw.
@@markpashia7067 well, we found the simp.
I would love to hear what her pit crew thinks of her driving.
probably something like “omg i can’t believe we get to be in a NASCAR pit crew, this is awesome”
@@nothanks3980 probably more like "there are 40 other teams at home with their families right now but were here all night fixing this damn car AGAIN."
"i can build this entire car from scraps because I do it every night"
@@stevebanning902 as a fleet mechanic I felt this so deep in my soul I began contemplating all my life choices
They would have been very happy, simply because she kept them in their jobs.
I'd almost forgotten about Danica Crashtrick. Thanks for the vid!
"If her name was Patrick Danica, no one would have given them a second glance" - Richard Petty
OR DAN PATRICK
That's funny😂
They are the ones talking about her. They're the reason she's famous at all.
its only because she was promoted to be the best, and beat all these men and she ends up crashing almost anytime so now, channels like this can make their own money by promoting how bad she actually is.
@@DrDoohickeyyes, it is not that the media tried to push her, it is obscure quotes only actual race fans know that made her famous.
My memories of her…always wrecking, always blaming someone else, temper tantrums, me first attitude, DW having the big O every time he talked about her.
David letterman salivating over her😂
@@danarzechula3769 David Letterman would salivate over a bowl of melted ice cream .
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she was kinda cute,hot in a bikini so who cares--but she should of stayed indy car,nascrap drivers were always trying to wreck her
@@mtsky-tc6uw Compared to the other drivers… yeah. Among other women, no.
Undoubtedly the best female stock car driver ever? Janet Guthrie would like a word with you. She, without absurd sponsor backing and riding for a nobody team, was able to put it in the top 10 5 times in her only real season. With the backing that Danica got, Guthrie probably could’ve won some races
Hornet Guy, coulda, woulda, shoulda but she didn't. Janet Guthrie was NOT the best female NASCAR driver either. Danica Patrick was. 2013 Daytona 500 pole position at 196.43 mph. 17 top 10's and she led 133 laps in NASCAR. Danica Patrick bested Jenet Guthrie in the Indy Cars series also.
@@sergeantmasson3669 if only TH-cam had a laugh react because that was funny
@@mrsegagamecube6419 truth hurts, eh CRYBABY?
@@sergeantmasson3669lol
@Christa Simon How did you manage to not understand what he wrote? What does his personal success in motorsports have to do with anything he said?
Another important lesson that just because someone has a job doesn't mean they're good at it or earned that position.
MGTOW
Some foreign drivers come to mind. Nastycar just went all political and leftist. It’s become a joke! Now its like some reality show recipe. You gotta have all the minorities, idiots, and fringe groups. So EVERYONE will have someone to pull for! 🙄 But first they jumped into bed with the manufacturers and tried to even the playing field making all cars equal. Because some were about as aerodynamic as hoover dam. They also bowed to political pressure! Remember when it was the Winston Cup & the Busch series? Now its more like the tampax cup and bitch series! And they started the restrictor plate BS. They’re RACE CARS they’re SUPPOSED TO GO FAST! Then, everyone had to be a winner. So they broke the races up into segments so everyone could get a participation trophy!
Or in the US and they're young, you can guarantee it.
Reminds me of a certain female commentator for the NHL in recent years who was HORRIBLE. Was pretty much universal from fans how bad she was. When she was called out by fans she blamed it on being bullied for being a female which was untrue. I'm all for women in sports if they're qualified. I just hate when they are placed there for "other" reasons when they obviously don't deserve it or earned it. It's just frustrating.
Danica was actually a pretty good driver - as long as no other cars were on the oval!
She was definitely the most potentially successful solo driver ever!
Everything Danica did -- or, more accurately, didn't do -- was magnified because girl. She got a lot of recognition she didn't deserve and is therefore held in more disdain than she deserves. In a perfect world, most people would never have heard of her.
good point
And an attractive woman, too. That made a difference on both sides of that equation.
I’ll never forget the moment she took the lead at the 500 and I watched hundreds of thousands of people stand up at the same time as me. She was a real driver, but her legacy was harmed by hype.
@@TheKyleMark simp
And yet, everyone knows who she is. Whereas few know who Michelle Mouton, one of the gratest ever, is.
And that’s capitalism my guy $$$ marketability > talent 🤑
more wrecks than top 20's. speaks for itself.
Fat Tony must have given her a waiver from attending his fight school, not once did I see her throw a helmet or buzz another racer outside of his car.
Some of those you can't pin on her, tho. 2 of them when she was in the middle of a tight pack with no way to avoid wrecks in front of her....she can't be blamed for those.
@@samsignorelli simp lol
@@samsignorelli deflection. Nobody is blaming her for the incidents that are obv not her fault
@@Hadgerz Then why include them in a vid about how bad she was...especially if you DON'T point out that those crashes weren't her fault?
This is why I love when the Sky F1 pundits ask for her opinion on racing matters. Sure she has raced but I’m not sure how much expertise she can provide on the pinnacle of motorsport.
She is an expert and sucking, and crashing, and refusing to take accountability for her absolute lack of skill.
F1 is the pinnacle? You mean the racing where you win the pole and then get help from your teammates to keep you in the lead? The one that's boring because there are hardly any lead changes? That one?
@@Yyyyyyy44 Yeah F1 is the pinnacle by far, regardless what your opinion of it is. Its where the best money is, so it draws the most talent in. Of course it also draws in money drivers. Also funny how you say "you win the pole", like you just do it no big deal. Also F1 is boring because for the past years its been dominated by the best race drivers on the planet, Verstappen and before him, Hamilton.
Danica drives the same way in real NASCAR as I used to in NASCAR PlayStation games, just crashing as spectacularly as possible
Well yeah minus the turning the car around and driving the wrong way on the track she was a lot like me too.
A moment of silence for the people behind the scenes that have to piece together the twisted mess of a car when Danica is done thrashing the living snot out of it.
Well it looks like she kept some people working
@@taipan8021 she was great for the parts industry!
@@toddgittins5692 I'm seeing that
Job security at its best.
She crashes and burns in every aspect of her life.
How bad was Danica patrick?
“Yes”
All of it!
@Robert Sears best female driver, but her NASCAR career was ver underwhelming compared to her fantastic indycar career. But I think whats most aggravating was that the media treated her like another Richard petty, when she was really a mid to lower mid pack driver in the NASCAR series.
@Robert Sears she tried to wreck a lot of people and failed in nascar.
@Robert Sears then why did she get only 7 tops 10s in a 5 year run in the cup series. She was a lower mid pack driver. Drivers never went out to get her. She would get loose, crash, get mad, wreck others, get wrecked out, and then the media would make it like she was the chosen one. She had good equipment, but she was bad a retaliation so she wrecked everything.
@@tuftyterror983 If stupid could fly, you'd be supersonic.
She was eye candy for the purpose of bringing in more fans.
But eye candy can kill
She won one race in her career - Indy Car in Japan, when she was at the back of the pack (again) and, when everyone else ahead of her crashed out in the rain, managed to reach the finish line.
she was so bad i always said she should have her own lane on the track so she wouldnt get in the way while being lapped and also wouldnt cause any wrecks
Everyone else crashed but shes the bad one? Lmao
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*insert homer simpson*
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@@TrebleChild She was crap her whole career. She caused more wrecks in NASCAR than any driver had in probably the last 50 years. All she was for NASCAR was T@A ,window dressing for then to say "we are all inclusive" They are doing the same for that no talent hack Bubba Wallace.
She always reminded me of a *NAKED GUN* gag wherein anything within 50 yards of her bursts into flames. Her car, other cars, the walls, the track, the flags
...campfires, bbq pits, asbestos...
and don't call me Danica
Danica's biggest flaw was her inability to remain focused and control her child sized temper. When I saw her stamping her little feet like a child, and blaming her crew for a loss in Indy cars, I lost 92%of my respect her. I figured, if she carried that attitude over to bump and grind Winston cup(whatever it is now)that she would burn out. Would anyone like some suggestions on lottery numbers?
It’ll always be “Winston Cup” to me. Although, real racing has left NASCAR and so have I…
@@davidhardin6649 exactly. Yesterday I googled the driver's I came up with and they're now from 56 to dead. Fun getting old.
About those lottery numbers...
@@Monkchelle_Kongbama I couldn't care 2% what you think.
There’s a lot wrong with her, but her temper isn’t any worse than basically every man in the sport. Punching a wall or jumping on someone’s car is no better than stamping your feet
During a trip through Albuquerque in 2015 I visited the Unser Family Racing museum (an awesome place which every racing fan should see!).
Al Unser Senior happened to be there that day, and it was a tremendous honor to meet the four-time Indianapolis 500 winner!
Al insisted I try out his new Indycar simulator, and it took awhile to stay off the walls and get even some semblance of speed. All the while, Al Sr stood watching over my shoulder - at one point he said speed it up Rick, you're about to be lapped by Danica Patrick!
The fact that I don't even watch NASCAR and TH-cam still recommended this video tells me what I need to know.
Watched anyway. Good video, easy to follow for someone who only has a passing knowledge of the sport.
Same!
I had buddies that were simping for Danica Patrick. They said she was their favorite driver even though she wasn't winning. Hell some of my favorite drivers like Jimmie Johnson n Jeff Gorden were doing better. Even during their concluding years
TH-cam is just like here watch this.
Same here.
I wouldn’t even know what “bad” is in any car racing
She was actually very good for the auto parts replacement industry, distributors and junk yards….
Is that All you got?
@@stevesparks2001 That's all he needs.
Agreed and for GoDaddy!
she had a lot of junk in the trunk that she was transporting to the junk yards
@@stevesparks2001
In her entire racing history, she won one race, and that was a substandard race held in Japan.
And only because the front pack pitted for fuel.
She technically didn't "win". Other drivers lost due to fuel. Some might say she had a good fuel strategy which is part of racing. Others might say, it wasn't a strategy, and that she was unintentionally so slow that she wasn't using any fuel.
99% of racers don't ever win one race.
People don't seem to grasp how major winning any race is
@@vasily2022 A win is a win
@@SmithCommaBenjamin Except Danica had the hype and attitude of the 1% that conistently win, without winning. Her one win wasnt do to her driving ability but because the front pack had to pit.
I used to be a custodian at Go Daddy and they had her car in the building. Every night I'd have to ride the floor machine to clean the building. One night I accidentally smacked it right into her car.
She parked it there, so it's still her fault! lol
The most impressive thing is the other dude's ability to not hit her after she crashes.
Which other dude?
There were a lot of dudes.
All of them, I’m glad Dani- suck didn’t hurt anyone, good riddance to her.
@@leoncaples2947 Samir mostly.
He is always wrecking the car.
@@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916 Kaczynski with the snipe lol
@@pocketgrim4942 True, E. Humperdinck never realized his careless punctuation of the word "dudes" could cause such a Catastrophic Apostrophe in the comments. 😲🤣🤪
Wow, what a crash magnet. Even when not involved, she gets involved.
So my family was very involved in Indycar and the IMS from the 1960s-2010s (sponsored different drivers like AJ Foyt). My grandfather helped her land one of her first sponsors during her indycar career (peak motor oil). When she came up to our suite to grace us with her presence, she was very cold and outright indifferent to my grandfather, who only had a mere two months left to live as his cancer had spread all over his body wishing the span of a year. I have resented her ever since. I understand having to keep your guard up in a male dominated sport but my grandfather really did just want the very best for her, he wanted a driver my sisters could look up to. Instead we got Danica!
I don't ever recall hearing similar things about drivers like katherine legge, sarah fisher, janet guthrie, lyn st. james, etc.i think you can be a woman in racing and not be cold and an ingrate.
@@ctkatz 100%
oh who fucking cares.
liar
@@dertasdert2419 mmmmkay
Danica wasn't there to win races. She was there to bring advertising $$$$$. Judging from all the ads back then with her in them. She did her job.
In championship level equipment, only 7 top 10 finishes, and 31 DNF's in 190 starts.
Not to mention an average finish of 24.1 and a best points finish of 24th. That's how bad she was.
C.J. O'Dell Danica was far better than you could ever be. BTW, your info is incorrect. NASCAR, 17 top 10's and she led 133 laps. She also won the 2013 Daytona 500 pole at 193.46 mph, led several laps, top 5 until the last 3 laps, and finished 8th. She became the most successful female race car driver in auto racing history, including NASCAR. BEFORE judging others, make sure that you are perfect first.
Lmao
@@Stupidfastracing Documented facts too difficult for your low IQ level to comprehend? What's your success in professional level motorsports racing, CUPCAKE?
@@sergeantmasson3669 That's Cup and Xfinity combined. I was going by just her Cup stats.
@@CJODell12 How much success have you ever had in professional level motorsports racing? Before judging others, make sure that you're perfect first.
I remember a race in Kansas, I bet with my friends that if Danica Patrick crashed in less than 30 laps I’d get $300. Fastest money I’ve ever gotten.
Your friends obviously weren't NASCAR fans or they wouldn't have taken the bet. 😜
@@marlbro-2473 definitely not, we usually watched either football, basketball or F1. I convinced them after a while lol.
just bet against a woman every time for free money
@Lighthouse in the Storm $300 is $300 lol.
I have to disagree with you regarding INDYCAR. Her finishes sound impressive until you see that INDYCAR fields are HALF the size of nascar fields. Also remember that she spent a few years driving for Michael Andretti, one of the top teams.
When she left for nascar, Andretti smirked “I could always count on Danica to finish 13th...”
She had ONE victory in over 100 starts, putting her on par with another driver who got a sweet opportunity without merit: Marco Andretti.
Marco actually had 2 wins.
It was all downhill for her after that 4th place finish at the Indy 500 and yes I know she won japan after that. Marco was much more of a contender and came super close to winning the 500 one of his first years… he also went downhill but has always been consistently more competitive than danica ever was.
Marco should have stuck to sports cars. He actually showed some promise.
a great case study in the ineffectiveness of affirmative action.
My main complaint with Danica was that she was nothing more than a marketing gimmick. She may have had a successful career in NASCAR had she worked her way through the ranks, advancing via success like most other drivers (notice I say most). Her obvious privilege did not help her. And it made her the target of other drivers. It's a shame because she set women in motorsports back 50 years.
I don't think we're even gonna see another woman in NASCAR until Dale Jrs daughters start racing and (possibly) work their way into NASCAR. I have full faith that Jr is gonna raise them right and teach them well
Agreed
She didnt ...nascar did.
Marketing gimmick is all the French's right? The money is obscene. And a crash requires an interview.... so swimsuit model doing an interview every race. And the guys line up to throw shit at her. lol. Like they would.
Astro turfed drama.
Almost like bubba 🤫
@A L Yes. Yes they are... This has to be one of the worst defense cases ever brought to trial. She was terrible. So were they...
Honestly she was everywhere. Even people who didn't watch NASCAR and racing in general knew who she was because she was everywhere. I just assumed she was a good driver and broke stereotypes.
I knew her from dating Aaron Rodgers
She is literally the ONLY nascar driver I can name in recent memory.
Because you never followed the sport and you are of course female... How many wnba fools can you name? none...@@patty109109
That's the power of the media once they find out you have a vagina.
Let's call this effect..."V-Power." V is for vagina.
Danica had talent, she should have stayed in Indycar to increase her skills. instead she took the money and was rushed through the nationwide series to cup, that is much too fast for someone who was use to racing open wheel cars.
"Talent??" BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
@@kenprice1961 not stock car talent obviously, also keyword "had"
@@kenprice1961 Maybe you should ask Jimmie Johnson that question. It's not easy to switch series.
@@kenprice1961 Far more than you.
@@sergeantmasson3669 What does that have to do with anything?! Ken Price is not out there pretending to be good and having people blatantly lie about how good he is, Danica was.
Thank you for a great video! It was very enlightening and you explained everything well.
Zero top 5 finishes in 5 years at a team which never failed to win a race
That performance is just utterly shocking
Know what's even more shocking? Danica had two races (Daytona 2013 and Kansas 2014) where she had a driver rating of over 100. That's two more than Cole Custer has had in three years on the same team!
@@seannolan9857
Cole Custer has a win, while Danica failed to score a top 5 in 5 years. What are you trying to say
@@Duval-In-The-Wall Custer won a race where he led five laps and had an average running position outside the top ten. What I'm saying is that Danica's best overall race (average running position, laps inside the top fifteen, quality passed, etc) is better than Custer's best overall race, even if he's beaten her best finish twice.
@@seannolan9857
I mean in a race it’s more about finishing position than anything else. Not to mention one of those races you mention was on a plate track
Idk what the defense here is, Danica’s record is beyond abysmal
@@seannolan9857 Cole Custer is better than Danica, the end
I love the south park episode "poor and stupid". This reminds me of it so much. Hilarious!
You think I can't turn left better'n you
I listened to an interview with her awhile back. She made a comment that she was not really into cars, did not get to know her mechanics and had no interest in turning wrenches/working with her crew.
I know a couple IndyCar pilots. They may not be mechanics or engineers but they get to know their crew and will help out where needed. Danica did not....and that tells you more than you need to know.
I wished she had done better but her questionable commitment doomed her.
I believe that was the joe rogan podcast. I saw the same one and was thinking, "well that explains it."
How can you be a race car driver and not really into cars?
Well Bacon, ask Danica. She must have seen racing as a (no pun intended) vehicle to make money and get into other money making ventures.
I've called her princess permapout. not my nickname, it's from reading posts of former competitor crews in the paddock. that kind of attitude will not work in a fan forward focused organization like nascar.
@@Baconatorz I mean, a lot of people love driving but have no idea how a car works… but yeah you’d imagine that if you’re racing them, where car build quality and your pit team are major factors, you’d be expected to at least be interested
Couple times I went to Dover I wore headphones that allowed you to listen in on the drivers and their spotters. I listened in on Danica and all she did was complain about the car the entire time.
She consistently was given some of the best cars with the most funding yet still was mediocre or worse when she wasn't crashing, in both Indy and stock cars. She also would blame anyone and everyone but herself. Now she's a pundit for Sky Sports Formula 1 without knowing a single thing about Formula 1.
So from what I've learned from this video as long as nobody else was on the track she was a great driver.
Great driver, bad racer.
@@travise830 Far better than you could ever do.
@@sergeantmasson3669 simp alert
@@sergeantmasson3669 wtf kind of argument is that? lol. Of course some guy on TH-cam isn’t a better driver than a professional driver. That doesn’t mean she was a solid competitor in nascar.
@@Matt-vz5wy She was far better than the 118 previous female drivers in NASCAR since 1949. None better since her either. Indy Cars series, far better than all previous drivers previous to her and none better since her there either. Could you do better? Guaranteed not. Get back to me when you've driven a pro-level motorsports race car at 200+ mph. I have done so many times and won a few times.
You could point to scores of drivers over the past decade that she outperformed. However, she had the best equipment so expectations were much higher. She was average at best. She was a marketing dream.
.....and the performance didn't even come close to matching the hype.
@@friscobob56 Again, a marketing dream. Of course marketing was gonna overhype her. Everyone always falls for the hype.
I always thought every Nascar was the exact same, are they not built to a certain ruleset?
@@Moakmeister There is are many things to adjust on the cars.
@@Angrynood Like Donald Trump!😃
Does anybody remember a lady by the name "Janet Guthrie"? Not sure of last name. She made BIG waves in the racing world too .She was a class act!!🇺🇸😎
Sure. She didn't do all that well, but she was far from the dumpster fire Patrick is. She is an engineer by education, a pilot; well, you get the picture. She's pretty cool.
Danica left Indycar when the talent pool was increasing throughout the field. The weight advantage that she'd used to qualify well had been changed and the rules rewritten so that driver weight advantages were removed. Indycar was increasingly leaving (or losing) ovals and adding road and street courses. Not a strongpoint for Danica.
Her one win in Indycar came during a fuel mileage run, and Helio pretty much let her pass because they didn't realize she was on the lead lap. Lots of drivers have won fuel mileage races, few drivers have ONLY won one race and that be via fuel mileage.
Many of Danica's finishes were the result of those kinds of pit gambles. Her Indycar team(s) frequently gambled with pit strategy to artificially gain her position, which sounded good for fans, TV, and sponsors, until she had to pit in a few laps and lose those positions. Unless they got a well-timed yellow. But it still didn't normally lead to a win... except that one time in Japan...
Anyone at the track, or paying attention on TV, saw one of the worst drivers on restarts in Danica. It was almost guaranteed Danica would go backwards on restarts.
The myth of her "almost" winning Indy was simply the product of hype and wishful thinking. She'd made a mistake earlier that brought out a late yellow that helped her. Again, an opportunity for a pit strategy developed to artificially move her up in the field in the final stage of the race. So yes, she DID lead late, and you can't take that away... but barring a late yellow and LONG cleanup (which didn't happen), she could not actually win that race because she was outgunned in experience, talent, and fuel in those final laps.
One of the loudest boos I've ever heard at Indy was for Danica during driver introductions the year she'd thrown her team under the bus. Her 15 minutes of fame were rapidly coming to an end in Indycar. She wasn't getting closer to a championship. It was slipping even more out of her grasp. Reality was setting in. Just like it did in Nascar.
She made the move to Nascar, either hoping the nearly all-oval series might suit her better than Indycar, or simply going for the money before her Indycar image was tarnished any deeper than it already was. In either case, taking the money and running before anyone figured out she was more hype than driver.
Danica was never going to win an Indycar championship. The field was too strong, and the tracks to tough, and both getting tougher when she left.
She probably did help encourage females to enter the sport and that is good. But she likely also overshadowed some better female drivers.
I remember in the early 2010s, there was a woman named Johanna Long driving for what was easily one of the worst teams on the grid and often finishing in the top 20. Sponsorship woes ended up cutting her career short. Obviously: it's no guarantee that she could've been a contender, but she never got that chance in the first place.
The Motegi race in Japan you're referring to was more or less an exhibition race not a sanction points race.
You certainly give a better explanation than wikipedia. Not that they are very trustworthy.
@@margaretcollins9382
@@retromario96 My guess is they figured Danica would put more thirsty dudes into the seats. Than Miss Long.
She drove for some of the best racing teams in both open wheel and Nascar. I think one victory.
A pretty lady and a horrible driver. I called her middle of the pack Patrick.
She's a 5, MAYBE, and without make-up, more like a 3, you need glasses dude.
She was super good at wrecking cars. She is #1 in my book in the wrecking cars category so there's that.
I mean Dale Earnhardt kinda won
Idk , like its an inherent skill of women I don't think she deserves praise for it
@@Izak213 yeah that title cost him his life.
I think lots of cops are envious of her PIT maneuver skills.
@@voidroad not all of them make it glorious
So that's a talent "glorious car crasher"
She admitted in a interview that she new nothing about cars. That statement should tell you what kinda driver she was.
Compare that with Nicki Lauda, who knew more about the car than Ferrari did and how to get the most out of it.
And you have bad grammer. What's your point?
@@Yyyyyyy44 your head is a point, get my drift?
@@Yyyyyyy44Grammar* 🤡🤡
I was 100% behind and rooting for Danica. Right up until the end of her first Indy 500. She was in third and had a real chance to make a run for the win. But Dan Wheldon, who was in second, scared her with a blocking move. At that point, Danica stopped trying and settled for third. It was right then I knew she didn't have it.
That's true. You either have it or your don't, and she didn't.
She went to stock cars because she wanted more car around her to crash with?
She never had a chance to win at Indy unless a caution came out. She was in that position because she screwed up early and was off pit sequence as a result.
Never had anything because is a big bulta.
what ever happened to Dan Wheldon?
As a driver with an SCCA Competition License, I learned years ago that driving skill and racing skill are two completely different and unrelated skill sets. Just because a driver has the skill to get a really fast lap out of a car on completely clear racetrack (such as a during qualifying, or at a Time Trials/Time Attack event) has no benefit if your racecraft skills are lacking. The best and fastest race drivers are the ones who can both can both gain position when in a pack of other cars by knowing when and when not to make a move (instantly recognizing those fleeting moments where making a move will net you a clean pass AND acting on it and having the patience to wait for a driver in front of you to make a mistake) and are also fast enough drivers to gain ground when the track is clear in front of you. Plenty of insanely fast Time Attack drivers would get their asses handed to them by a pack of skilled amateurs in wheel-to-wheel racing.
I disagree with your statement on time attack drivers losing to amateurs. I think it's a gross overgeneralization of what they can do. Just my thoughts on that. Otherwise, cheers. I hope you continue to do well in the SCCA.
I'm learning this in Sim Racing. I've got a HAAS Road To Glory on F1 2021. I can set the car up decently. I can get into the.2nd.round of qualifying. Race starts are either miraculous or nightmares. Andcas soon as the tires go off, I get into trouble pitting onto a harder compound and I'm usually not patient enough with the first few laps getting the tires where they need to be. Oh and I suck in traffic. Lol. Fun but frustrating.
Ran out of talent many times.
@@Angrynood It's a totally different sport. It's like saying a professional boxer could beat an amateur BJJ black belt in an MMA match. As long as they stay on their feet and it's pure striking, sure, but as soon as it goes to the mat the boxer is in trouble.
Same is true with TT drivers. They are excellent at running the best geometric line through an empty circuit. Throw them into an actual race where they don't have a wide-open track and they're completely out of their wheel-house. Driving and racing are not the same thing. The best racers spend decades developing racecraft, a skill most TT drivers don't ever need to learn.
@@purpletigerracing7087 same, I can turn out lap times on spa a second off a pro’s pace, but my race craft is absolute garbage. I get scared driving near another driver because I don’t trust myself to properly make a move without wrecking both of us. And if the guy behind me is pressing me I usually just let them by cuz I fear blocking will also cause a wreck.
Her success in open wheel racing had more to do with how they weighed the cars than her actual skill. Often times her car/driver weight was 50 to 100 pounds lighter than the other competitors. That is a lot.
absolutely correct. She ran trials well on empty tracks. In traffic and in and out of the pits she was a joke.
@@rrmorris67 and in her open wheel season she finished better than her team mates in points, Andretti motorsports (specifically TK) was getting in her car during practice and setting it up because she was incapable of determining what changes were needed to go fast. Janet Guthrie she was not
Horsepower to weight ratio... And then there's the center of gravity and "G" forces in a car that relies on sticking to the track to go fast around corners. HUGE advantage for her there.
They don’t ballast the cars to weigh the same no matter the driver weight ?
@@Meowface. They do now but at the time no.
lol!! I stoppped following NASCAR around 2008-2009. NO JOKE I always assumed she was actually a top 10 driver from the way the media talked about her.
The ONLY reason most people even know her name is because she was marketable and her PR team knew they could make big bucks off this stunt, more if she actually did well.
She was young, female and (most would say) attractive and that’s the ONLY reason she became known.
She was pretty consistent.... At crashing. The most truest thing ive ever heard. She was literally nascars "token woman".
Now they have a token reggin
and she is pretty
@@scottmaclaren4695To much of a coward to say it huh.
@@scottmaclaren4695With the same skill set as Crashica.
@@IceAxe1940Doesn’t make it any less true.
Fair assessment and summary. Her attitude lost her respect from drivers and fans.
I was a kid and only remember the media hype. Was she kind of an ice queen?
@@TingTingalingy
She had….an abrasive personality, the kind you’re only allowed to have when you’re among the very best. Otherwise, you’re not worth the headache
@Lighthouse in the Storm hard to say she had no talent when she supposedly did good in indy
@Lighthouse in the Storm if that's true, that's a real shame she was so heavily promoted. Really bugs me when women tell their daughters to look up to women that are a complete lie.
Her NASCAR career was about as good as her personality
Hate much?
@@SeptemberChild1835 hes not wrong, she put other drivers lives in danger, very unprofessional she is
Blamed everybody for her bad driving
I met her once and she was very nice.
man thats the best comment!!!! you nailed it .
In Australia, we had Simona de Silvestro, a former open wheel driver who couldn't cut it in the V8 Supercar series. She was imported directly without going through the feeder series and it showed in her performance.
What's annoying is that she was selected over other up and coming female drivers that were working their way through the lower series and single handed killed the chances for women drivers for the next 10 years!
Danica had the same effect. There were plenty of better female drivers but they weren't as attractive or refused to wear skimpy outfits in ads so Danica got all the attention. It told all the younger female drivers that if they weren't willing or able to trade on thier sex appeal their actual talent didn't matter. As a result, more women turned away from motorsports after her.
That's what woke gets ya
It's sad to see the lack of women in v8 supercars.
@@BlakkHalo Kind of the opposite. Choosing someone based on her "beauty" rather than skill undermines the entire point.
Boggles my mind that there's no F1 or Indy races in Australia. Of course if it was an Oval, they'd all be going right. LOL
Switching the type of car you race can be a hard thing for some. Jimmy Johnson is having a hard time also switching to Indy cars. Some like Al Unser, Mario, Foyt and Kurt Bush had no problems. But most just have a hard time with the change. Driving a car with a lot of downforce was the most challenging thing I ever did. Your traction, braking and how fast you can go around a turn all varies with your speed.
@Mccool Files it’s a little hard but she should have gotten the hang of it quickly but she didn’t
She was garbage in everything she sat in, yet one of the highest paid American drivers…
@Mccool Files he just told you. Cars have to be built in such a way as to not lift off the ground at high speeds. Cars that are built with wings to keep it grounded are probably hard to get used to. Also physics. Constantly changing wind speeds etc if you're driving on public roads
She was in the cup series for years and consistently got worse
@Mccool Files "tell me how pressing down a pedal and turning a wheel is hard"
You literally asked lol
I agree with the thought that she should have stayed in IndyCar. She was seeing some serious success there, and was, at minimum, a competent, competitive driver. After losing Paul Dana and Dan Wheldon, though, I feel like she saw safety as an issue, and that, coupled with sponsor dollars and notoriety, had her leaning toward NASCAR.
She had a huge advantage in Indy, they weighed the cars without the drivers. She was like 100lbs lighter then the people she competed against. Everyone criticized Robby Gordon for pointing that out but history and reality proved him correct.
I do not closely follow auto racing. But, I do check on the standings of the Indy and Stock Car racing several times a year.
You are correct in that she did better in Indy cars.
Yet, whenever I looked at the stock car standings it appeared that while she was not in the top group or the 2nd top group... she was ahead of more people in the standings than she was behind. So she was at least a slightly better than average stock car race car driver. Pretty amazing for someone who only started stock car racing later in her driving career.
I believe that you are correct in that if she had stayed with Indy cars that she would have been a well respective threat in almost every race for many years.
So she was a race car driver. She was just in the wrong cars on the wrong tracks when she tried stock car racing.
I wish she had returned to Indy cars.
I heard that she even hit the wall while attempting to park her pov in the garage at her home. She quickly blamed the house for not being in the right place.
She was technically one of the greatest, because NASCAR drivers aren’t really paid to win, they’re paid to advertise. I don’t know the names of any other mediocre drivers - but I know Danica Patrick’s name.
😊😊
Go Daddy !
Dale Jr didn't do much better
EXACTLY. No one understands this part.
@@brianpreston8483 Incorrect.
I like your conclusion. She really might’ve continued improving in Indy if she’d stayed there.
Jack of all, or master of one.
she stayed there for 7 seasons. How much more time would she need to get anywhere?
@@timkasansky2528 I dunno, all I know is that she apparently did better as an Indy driver.
@@timkasansky2528 What do you mean "get anywhere"? She finished in the top 10 in points four seasons in a row culminating in 5th before switching. Do you realize how difficult that is? How many competitors there are?
@@vandogtrailer6701 Others did better in the same team and lost the backing in a couple of years. She kept hers until she quit.
Indycar points system is extremely generous to those who are "always around". In countless years driver got into contention wiithout winning a single race.
She wasn't as bad as we all remember, but we remember the bad so intensely because the hype created unreasonable expectations. The fact is, most drivers AREN'T elite drivers. A mediocre NASCAR driver is still a pretty damn good driver. But when that mediocre driver is getting MORE national media attention than the elites in the sport, that's going to create problems.
And I think that affected her driving. I think she crashed as much as she did because she felt pressure to be more than she was. And so she pushed herself and made mistakes. Danica was an incredibly overhyped driver...but she wasn't a terrible driver.
Everyone wanted to see Danica “sitting on the pole”. That accounted for most of her popularity. 😁
You can keep saying she was in over her head, but as I recall, when she originally floated the idea of going Nascar, they said she should start at the bottom and earn her way up, like Jaun Pablo Montoya, which was met with an entitled attitude. She was a blight on the sport.
D.A.N.I.C.A. Does Anyone Notice I Crash Alot
That is great!
Too busy checking out her body to notice
They all crash.
😂😂
@@deepcosmiclove Not like that.
Danica was my idol. I was adoring her as goddess. But after I met her in Denny's and spoke with her, I chenge my mind and went back to mexico. Now Im happy as nurse
The way you wrote this made it sound like your disappointment in her singlehandedly turned your life around lol
I attended Indy race in Milwaukee where Danica was actually passing cars. The crowd HOWLED for her as she finished 4th.
She also finished 4th at Indy after leading the race with 4 laps left
@Jackson Brown she finished fourth in the Indianapolis 500 after being in first with five laps to go She had to cruse easy She damn near ran out of fuel
She drove the same way when she was in Indy as well. Crashica was one of her nicknames lol
"What Will Danica Hit?" was my favorite racing game
Her career was both stunning and brave.
You said it right in the beginning of the video - 5-foot-2, 100 pounds. That can work in lighter open-wheel cars, but is almost certainly too small to handle stock cars.
Guaranteed far better than you.
@@sergeantmasson3669 and you don’t see him driving
actually nascar allows 200 lbs for the driver in the total vehicle weight so a lighter driver allows weight to be moved around in the car,so a big advantage
Why is body size important in stocks cars?
@@PointNemo9 Weight is added to the car, or subtracted. according to the driver's weight.
going from open wheel to stock cars is no easy task.& vice versa.jimmie johnson is a great driver in anything, & look how he has struggled to grasp the indy cars.nascar & indycars are completely different animals & share so few similarities for anyone to be instantly successfull in both.
True, but she was never good at Indycar, either.
Jimmie was absolute shit at the Indy 500 this year. Had him as my second pick in the family pool (we sit at the end of the straight going into turn one for the last 53 years and been going longer than that, my grandpa is in one of the pictures of the 60’s bleacher collapse, was one of the first ppl on scene to help) my 3rd pick Santino Ferrucci did way better, seems like Jimmie is still getting a feel for open wheel and racing conservatively. First pick was Rinus Veekay who WILL win one of these years I’m sure of it (crashed out early this year running P3)
Richard Petty said it best when asked "Do you think Danica could win?"
Petty said "If everybody else stayed home".
She did really good for a woman, how many women even made it into Indy cars? And she was better than a lot of men, she was never a back marker in either Indy or Nascar. She's a really smart person too, she does a popular podcast now.
My biggest memory of Danica was how she never thought an accident was her fault... she could have crashed in qualifying and her radio feed would be her yelling "what the hell?!?! Who wrecked me?!?!?"
This is so accurate. I always wondered why she took a very successful short Indy career and moved to a longer stint and far less successful NASCAR career. Even if not all the accidents were her fault (some were people crashing into her), she did cause more than her own share as well and the NASCAR career was a true disappointment.
she switched because the money was so much better in NASCAR.... Why do you think Jeff Gordon , Tony Stewart and Juan Pablo Montoya jumped to NASCAR when they got the chance.?
@@csnide6702 I did not know that, thanks for sharing. Guess she was good enough for Indy but not for NASCAR when she tried to make more money.
@@Buc_Stops_Here Not really; her 'success' in Indycar had much to do with her Gross Weight advantage over the field. That 'light-weight driver' Advantage did not follow her to NASCAR (and, with no huge weight-edge, her mediocrity was quickly revealed).
@@hippiekarl7 pretty sure they ballast the cars to account for body weight
@@mikeholland6750 They do now....when she was there, they (for whatever reasons) were weighing the cars ~only~. When the decision was made to weigh car+driver, the 4'10" 100lb Patrick announced her departure. Coincidence; no doubt(!). Is it coincidence that her only win there was in a fuel-consumption race, that required pit-stop 'gamesmanship' to win? When her unfair weight-advantage was removed, she went to NASCAR....and lost that extra few laps between pits that made it look like she was Contending at the end of races. She was relying on late-lap yellows to capitalize, and they rarely materialized for her to profit from.
Danice drove IndyCar right up until they made it ~fair~ for all drivers.....
She’s so bad she could be the only driver out there and still wreck
look who is speaking, the best driver in the world
Her qualifying was quite good ... why throw shade where it don't belong?
Feelings of inadequacy in life so you need to disparage a woman?
@@TroyC68 bro she’s in championship equipment that’s why and she only got 6 top 10s in her whole career
Absolutely agree. I feel sorry for any driver in any race that competed in.
Last year the pace car for the Daytona 500- a million- dollar Corvette- wrecked on the first turn of the pace lap at the beginning of the race. A half hour later on the first hole of the playoff to determine the winner of a PGA golf event one of the players swung at the ball, slipped, and fell right on his ass on nationwide tv.
She was great in open wheel, She holds the record for most wrecked cars in a season in NASCAR!
She was terrible in open wheel, and all the other drivers hated her guts. As did the fans. She was what we call, "A moving chicane." No good in qualifying, terrible at taking orders, just an all around failure in IRL. If she'd come along just a few years earlier, she probably would gave been a fatality on any number of road course races. Sje was barely proficient.
Hate much?
@@SeptemberChild1835 Nope!
@@OddBall1958 Ok. Glad that is settled! 😃
@@SeptemberChild1835 I just state the facts. Thanks man!