How To Turn Thin Air Into Water | Konstantin Avdienko | TEDxTeen
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- Because no one should be without water. And no one has to. A simple solution to a complex problem.
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Konstantin's name comes from a Latin word for "standfast". He is a mechanical engineering and computer science double major at the University of San Diego, interested in sustainable technology. He has started a recycling movement in his native country of Russia, which became the largest electronics-recycling center in Moscow. Upon moving to California, he became interested in solving the problem of water drought. Konstantin invented a device that could solve the pressing issue of the scarcity of pure water. After success building a working prototype, he is working on implementing an entire system of sustainable and renewable water supply systems. As Vice President of an Engineers Without Borders chapter, he often travels to third world countries to work on engineering projects that benefit people living there.
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The answer my friend is blowing in the wind. The answer is blowing in the wind. Thanks Konstantin your head and heart are in a good place ‼️
I’m surprised to learn that the purity of the condensed water is not impacted by the surrounding air quality. That’s pretty amazing natural filtration. Well done. A simple water condenser that gets energy from solar and natural cooling via deep earth..
Why is everybody so full of hate? Maybe this device really works and could actually save lives. You're all just criticizing but this guy is trying to change something.
Because it's nothing new. Atmospheric water generators (dehumidifiers with a filtering system) have been around for decades.
@Noel Kotela: His idea is already being built by a company in Russia. They are probably still developing the machine, so you will not hear of it for a while. Haters just think they have a better idea, of are angry they didn't think of it first- and get rich $$$.
This guy is beyond talented....may all your dreams come true
If this technology would have been put in place by now, we would not see the devastating results of regional drought in the United States. Farmers and Foresters alike could install this technology.
This comment should a few hundred likes, at minimum.
@@BogoEN How very kind of you to say this; thank you.
@@petuniaromania6294 if they are 'allowed' by the g0vt
People aren't even allowed to harvest rainwater in many parts there
@@creativeideas012 why is that?
Backpackers would carry the self-filling bottles, instead of purification tablets or filter straws.
Well. The point is, that you need to cool down 1000 liter of air (that is 1m^3 of air) from 30°C to 10°C under optimal conditions. - that means 100% humidity - in order to get 20ml of water. It is very clear, that you cannot do this with some CPU-fan and cheap solar panels in an acceptable period of time. And the thing gets worse in really dry areas, where humidity is way less then 100%. This has nothing to do with like or do not like. This is basic thermodynamics. I beleive you, when you say you can condense water from air, after all this is not new. It is exactly what a dehumidifier does. And also the story of the bug is a nice story. But the point is, that the bug can survive with only a handfull of waterdrops per day. But a human cannot, even if you manage to condense a 100 times that amount.
Personally, for me the most interesting number would have been, how much water could you get from air under which conditions in what time. And I wonder why you talked a lot about the need for such a technology but have not provided this basic figures or some theoreticcal number of what is possible at all. And that, my young friend, almost always means something.
kallewirsch2263 wow that's a long comment
kallewirsch2263, in india, we have designed a system that uses .347 KWH power and produces 65L of water in 12 to 14 Hrs of operation (mostly in the night when the temperature is cooler) with a relative humidity of anywhere between 42% to sometimes in excess of 80% (coastal town) .. hope these numbers help. AND YES. ITS TOTALLY POSSIBLE to make this a viable solution to revive and replenish groundwater levels in my country.
Alinel Woundhorn
Can you please send the details where I can read more about it?
Thanks.
Alinel Woundhorn I'm highly skeptical. Those figures are way off the charts of whats thermodynamically possible.
Well the cooling from the 4 feet below the earth is about 56 F so that part works, since most dew points in FL anyway are above that temp; the mass of air moved across cooled fins or tubular coils is a question. I am getting about 3.2 oz h2o/day from a peltier wafer system using less than 100w (poor but i plan to make it even better like 30w and get more water too) , but it can be scaled up to get 32 oz/day by just increasing number of wafer pods to 10, right? So a 45cfm cpu fan = 1.27m*3/min of air & would give you ~27 ml water "IDEALLY" every minute, real world probably much less. So its theoretically possible? I'd estimate about only 1 ml water per minute in real world, but that does add up, and with scale up to 100x more units IF cheap enough could become viable.
It is interesting how solutions can be achieved, to improve life on our beautiful Ocean Planet.
The solutions exist for everyone, when they learn to see, and learn to communicate, what they see.
Hmmm I think this guy is possibly on the verge of inventing the dehumidifier
A geothermal dehumidifier that works the in places it is most needed, and likely is cheap to make with easily sourced parts.
@@amyspade9031 It doesn't produce the amounts of water needed for anything useful. Not even for a human daily needs. You need a gianormous apparatus, able to process thousands of cubic meters of air per day to produce anything useful.
Tremendous output! May God bless your endeavors
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How much water (on average) does your unit produce? What are the materials needed? Specifics, please.
You won't see any documentation until he gets his world-wide patent.
The things we share with each other will make a difference for all of us finding solutions for life for all humanity.
All yall my dearest friends. We can overcome if we are united in the survival of the human race.
Thankyou sir we all willl do it
Konstantin, your experiments are a great start. Take all the negative comments here and turn them into challenges as to how you can improve your design. Maladyetz
By that comment you are suggesting that the laws of nature is considered negative.
Thank you!
water the most powerful solvent on earth.
Keep it up, I am try to work on similar aspect
(though my aim is slightly different)
you will need a lot of colder temperatures to actually achieve condensation.... if it actually produces water it probably makes a lot less than expected....
LOL, oh dont' worry, the cooling is coming, beware what you ask for.
heat also creates condensation
plejaren1 Yes, it does. But the context in which its said here is different type of condensation. Basically, u r saying if i heat up humidity in 47 degree celsius with 60 percent humdiity environment, then i will be able to produce some amount of water; unfortunately its a wrong idea as it increases the knetic energy further more rather it needs to be cool down by decreasin the temperature. By decreasing the temperature, we can bring the molecules close together from their deispersed state to the compact one hence making H2O.
I'd like to see more about his project! Looks great! Stats would be nice to solidify the presentation too.. like, I'd like to know for a specified size of a machine, how much water you can retrieve over a given time and how he machine is put together. I hope it's as awesome as it seems and it catches on. Turning humidity into drinking water sounds like a promising idea. I bet that if this were to become mainstream, that we'd learn to be careful about the amount of water we take out of the air.
doesn't work
morrow any papers to prove it doesnt? or accessible research?
ickerish the thing already exist called a dehumidifier check out the channel called thunderfoot
There are actual thermodynamic calculations that state things like this produce next to nothing
So it takes 1 per person and more for a garden or field, big deal. Can you imagine never paying for water to water all the food you eat for the rest of your life for the cost of a copper pipe, a small fan, and a small solar panel? This actually works, and is cheaper than buying expensive water filters for drinking water.
My sister uses a dehumidifier and has to empty it on a regular basis. Perhaps that technology would work....
The whole idea of harvesting air and turning it into water is indeed great, but we can never get it to work as we are now.
Our technology is simply not advanced enough.
Sorry, Thunderf00t had to slap me this reality.
blackrave404... absolutly untrue. btw, if RH drops below 18%, your capilaries in your nose will burst, and even in that condition we can condense and make water.
how simply have you explained a complex science! God bless you.
Not his idea.or his invention.
@@phillipiverson5660 He took the concept and turned it into a vertical system, of which you bury the bottom, and use low-cost, low-voltage parts to pump the coolant into the upper coil.
Yah it's called dehumidifier, wich has been around for a long time.
Its the energy efficiency of dehumidification that he addressed. He actually mentioned it in his presentation.
Konstantin, your caring is wonderful, and your motivation very admirable. Could you provide us with a complete and detailed diagram of how the air is made to flow in and the water is extracted out after condensation? You are an inspiring young man.
Great Idea....so it is turbine run by solar compress the air to the ground to get condense and turned to water.
It may work in coast area where humidity is high but not in dry desert air...but still there is alot of technical issues to be solved like backup pressure will the turbine be able to overcome it...remember it is mini solar..
Thank you for great Idea...!!!
Even desert air has moisture, so it should work. You just can't feel the humidity. You may get better results using the generator at night.
the "turbine" (fan) draws air up into the coil, and a small pump circulates the coolant through the system.
Energy is expensive, no Gov. Will provide electricity if no people living there. And generator consuming alot of gas/ petrol doesn't worth in the middle of nowhere. So we have only one simple, cheap choice "solar power" backup by wind power.
Just simple continue drop if we can manage to produce , can make big different in the world. Just imagine small turbine in the middle of desert producing a drop for tree to surviver to provide shadow for us....I think it is amazing...!!!👏 😀
Nice idea in theory, but this relays on the ground around the copper coil staying cool. It won’t stay cool for very long as due to the heat transfer from the copper to the soil and the temperature of the copper coil and the soil around the coil will quickly even out rendering the device useless.
Yes we'll done, next step is trying to make it scalable
for the amount of energy expended to operate the cooling station, they could make the effort truck the water from halfway across the country
What if you just use the wind energy to turn a pump that cycle the cooling effect of a refrigerant??
@@oswaldoriginal5037 no! we already had those in Australia to attempt to fill a lake. They simply take too much energy and only operate in humid air
@@cupidstunt8136 What? a wind turbine turning a refrigeration cycle??
BS, this is either a scam or nobody has done the relatively simple numbers.
Better to scale up a little and try to develop solar to treat impure water sources like saline groundwater, seawater etc. i.e. small efficient desalinators.
can we use routine shadow nets for catching fog
I am in Indonesia. You can come here, and find lots of spot that there's source of clean water.
Skip the usual story about people needing water and his great idea from water on a cold glass: 3:43.
Felix Automaton right, somehow that is like inducing a guilt feeling for getting water access easily
Can you make one for the Indians on the reservations please!
They pay for water and don't have enough! Thankyou Ted
Do we have a working model of this till date, i need to install one at my native place as we dont get water from natural sources for approx 8 months in a year
Congrats, you invented a dehumidifier that barely works. You can buy those on Amazon. Hook one up to some solar panels and you will have much more water.
just use a dehumidifier, it collects moisture out of the air lol.
Not only that, the water out of a dehumidifier contains all the dirt and germs in the air too.
For all these people saying "jes get a dehumidifier." Needs filtering n ultraviolet antimicrobial
geez , another 8 minute video that could of been done in less than 2 .
LUCIA CHIN 1H you didn’t have to reply either
This reminds me of a similar invention made by Edward Linacre from Australia called the "Airdrop Irrigation" back in 2011. After he won the Dyson award, no one has ever heard from him again. Now THIS came up, with a similar design and concept! What gives?? And there isn't any demonstration video from any of these inventions. So I'm very skeptical if it actually works! And I also suspect plagiarism from all this.
Let's begin with the water and air we will need to have a base on the moon.. Not to mention a scheme to live with solar radiation. In the 1960s we made such a good start but it was largely shut down because of finances. Where else are we going? Most of all to work together. The human race is so crazy.
Steam Punkster it will work for a short while. These devices rely on the cooling effect of soil around the device. However that heat has to be stored somewhere and it will obviously will be stored in the soil. So basically the soil will around the device will become the same temperature as the device fairly quickly rendering the device useless. Once this guy builds his device he will quickly find it won’t produce the quantities of water he is expecting.
@@cplcabs Did you watch the video? He said he installed it in various countries and it worked well.
@@moyshekapoyre did you even read my comment? Do you believe anything a youtuber says? I can sell you London bridge for $50, interested?
@@cplcabs If you don't believe anything a youtuber says, then stop talking to me. Thanks.
What do you need to mass produce water in 2022?
Thank you for this important invention at a really b important time for this
It's a dehumidifier. He didn't invent anything.
What do you use for the coolant in the coils: some 'clean' water or something like engine coolant? Can you show me a diagram for how the condenser works or provide some information to try to make one for myself?
Rain is water from air
Harvesting water from the air is always a bad idea , if we do so how we get rains ? if air doesn't have moisture,
Congrats! This is one of the few products that will really change the world. Where can I pre-order one?
You can't get one. They don't work. You will never see a working model.
It only sounds like a good idea if you're scientifically illiterate.
I have a used one in pristine condition. I can send it worldwide, you can pay for it in bitcoins, it's really secure.
I don't know why people are so pessimistic....this thing works..I have done it before.......I am actually considering mass production
Proof of concept is easy. All the rest is much harder work.
How can i contact you im from Nuevo leon Mexico and we don´t have water to drink we are living a nigthmare PLEASE HELP US!!!!!!
bigger machine more production. Of course is depindant on the humidity of the air wherever you are using it.
He's so damn nervous, but great idea!
Probably its his first time
Using the earth is pretty smart.
Here is a magnificent idea to help solve (at least in part) a massive worldwide problem.
The bigger problem is people wasting fresh water, or carelessly polluting potable water with chemicals or toxic wastes. Things like water-saving toilets help a lot.
Does capturing moisture from air affect the monsoon patterns? In India, summer is immediately followed by monsoon - rainy season. Won't capturing moisture create a disruption in the water cycle?
Eh I wouldn't worry about it. Considering that all "water from thin air" devices need relatively high humidity to really do anything, and those places already get plenty of water from thin air the traditional way (rain), these devices aren't gonna catch on because they aren't cost effective and their claims are never thermodynamically viable.
Clean water producers wouldn't allow that :).
I need more information about this project
What capacity in gom or m3/ hr is a typical plant?
Can you give us technical details to us.
If you've designed your experiment and published your findings I'd like to see the work but thermodynamics says "ya, probably not". Yes, dehumidification for moisture capture is nothing new: It's also crazy expensive in terms of energy to cool enough air. Additionally, the soil (big important variable) can only absorb so much energy from heat exchange before its temperature rises and said heat exchange effectively stops. Local conditions including ambient wind, temperature, humidity, soil temperature at depth etc. are critical variables. It's not going to provide water at the scale you'd need for a village, or even a family of five. You might be better off digging ground-stills (also known as a solar-still or moisture-traps) and collecting both dew and soil moisture; they're simple, low-tech. and while also not likely to provide sufficient water for a family would still represent a more content sensitive engineering approach.
So they spend 6.5 minutes a day?
Sorry I am such a dork for phrase and wordsmithery but a better, more clever title for this vid would've been "how to make water out of thin air" lol! Aside from that, Watching young millennials, often called entitled and self absorbed, use the resources that they have, that no other generation before them has had access to, FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OTHERS LESS FORTUNATE THEN THEMSELVES really gives me hope that they maybe ARENT ALL lost, weak, or maladjusted! Its so wonderful to see them ACTUALLY USE what they have been given so freely to help others, rather than post another freakin selfie, or liking/posting/tweeting whatever "cause d'jour" that will give them the most limelight as someone who cares.. What a relief to find that they arent ALL like that!!!!!!! Kudos kids!!
Yeah... no this kid is totally entitled and self absorbed, just check his Instagram. If he knew anything about thermodynamics and just did the back of the envelope calculations, he'd know its a nonviable idea. "Water from thin air" devices aren't cost/energy effective compared to purification or transportation, that's probably why even tho people have been proposing them for over a decade, no one actually uses them. Plus they require high humidity to really do much, and places that have high humidity tend to already get water from thin air the traditional way: rain.
air condioceners do the exact same thing
I don't know how to spell the 2nd word
dehumidifier is what you want, they sell them on Amazon. Its basically an airconditioner that doesn't effect the net temperature of the air, just condenses water. Also uses a lot of power.
@@phillipiverson5660 because they are for sale on Amazon, they are already invented. Are you asking me why I didn't go back in time and invent something invented in 1902 by Willis Carrier? Yes it really is that simple. If you want to watch water come out of thin air like magic, go buy one, and video tape it, and gape in awe at the majesty of science.
So, did he manage to beat the laws of thermodynamics ?
Well the cooling from the 4 feet below the earth is about 56 F so that part works, since most dew points in FL anyway are above that temp; the mass of air moved across cooled fins or tubular coils is a question. I am getting about 3.2 oz h2o/day from a peltier wafer system using less than 100w (poor but i plan to make it even better like 30w and get more water too) , but it can be scaled up to get 32 oz/day by just increasing number of wafer pods to 10, right? So a 45cfm cpu fan = 1.27m*3/min of air & would give you ~27 ml water "IDEALLY" every minute, real world probably much less. So its theoretically possible? I'd estimate about only 1 ml water per minute in real world, but that does add up, and with scale up to 100x more units IF cheap enough could become viable.
@ john Doe: And it should be something that any industrious person of the region could make himself, to pass the technique on to others in the village or town, to make many more.
My biggest challenge would be to dig a narrow-bore hole 2 or 3 feet into the ground- by hand...
I would like to help however I can with this !
Is this is available in market?
Why not put wind turbine and to push air. It will be always keep working.
WHY WOULD YOU LIVE MILES AWAY FROM THE DRINKING WATER?
because colonialism hasn't brought it closer to you yet
We live in high Mtn desert & in the US. Wells are incredibly expensive & are forbidden in our subdivision. In a situation without electricity to power pumps, none of us would have water. I'm very curious about this thing he's created as an alternative during an extended power outage.
I have designed a system that pulls water out of the air using no energy to achieve this. The only energy required is to distill the water, this can be accomplished with any source of heat, even solar concentrator. The energy required for distillation can even be lowered using vacuum distillation. Not only this, but I also have recently combined this with a very simple way to generate electricity. Clean water, and electricity (on a smaller scale, yes) sufficient for the needs of a family. Not a solution to provide these for a city or small community. But each family could cheaply and easily have a device for their own use. I need a person skilled in CAD to work up a schematic. And someone to help me set up a crowd funding campaign to get this off the ground.
I am developing a sustainable community and would like to more about your system. How is your project going?
I am a CAD engineer. Please contact if needed.
Yes, lets connect as well. I can see the application here in SA...
condensed water is not distilled water ! you just need a mineral filter and a carbon filter. its clean water out of the box. feel free to contact me for any help..in india, we have designed a system that uses .347 KWH power and produces 65L of water in 12 to 14 Hrs of operation (mostly in the night when the temperature is cooler) with a relative humidity of anywhere between 42% to sometimes in excess of 80% (coastal town) .. hope this helps.
Where can your system be found online?
No one can make water.
If your invention works, why don't you have DIY videos on how to make one instead of trying to profit.
You don't care about people having water. You care about how much money you can make. You're no humanitarian.
It's a dehumidifier. He didn't invent anything.
Brilliant
When you have not studied thermodynamics.
Where are the numbers???
How far is this device from Carnot efficiency?
What can you get from it right now? Where are the strongest losses?
How many days has this guy been drinking solely from his machine?
Sorry. Not persuasive.
hi there...
how I can get this stuff. ..
contact me I will be the first one to buy and try it at home.
our country have poor fresh water. .. thanks
Nabil Reyhani:Try rainwater harvesting IF you get at least 100mm of rainfall per year in your area. Anything over 200mm per year will work well. "Google" or enter into the Internet and TH-cam. Some of the information is in PDF format and can be printed. (I use this in Mexico)
I have a breakthrough ,please contact me so that I can share a video on the same
Good job. continue to improve it, u could be 'The One' who saved the world.
Yes, as soon as the laws of physics change.
Landrew0. Konstantin already successfully produced a working prototype, why r u still talking about theories. Kids nowadays do nothing but judge others invention with their secondary school science theories.
Lets see the water? You won't because he won't show it. There's a another one called Waterseer, same idea, also doesn't work, but people throw thousands of dollars at it. Look up "dehumidifier" on Amazon. They use a lot of power.
And all the dust, germs, pollen and virus in the water is a bonus.
Help the reservations out west!
LMAO
40 bil work hours a day , every day... imagine what those people could do if they didn't do this . Yeah, i can imagine,: they would be looking for jobs, losing their homes, etc :)
and to think that cooling a nuclear core would give you all the desalinised water you ever needed, if enough nuclear plants would use sea water for cooling , then condense and capture the steam used in the turbines
Don't start your "talk" with a sob story to try to promote a bullshit product.
Only problem, his product works!
Think about this, your regular Air Conditioner does this exact thing, except instead of mud, it uses power to cool the air - water is a byproduct that condenses and discarded. Your AC uses 1000W and needs a DAY to make 1 Glass of water. How much power does it take to heat the surrounding dirt of that poop-pipe to not be viable for cooling air anymore? I bet its less than 12kW hours...
No, it doesn't.
Do you have a video on how much this product "works"?
Like, how many liters does it produce, or day to day video record on how the unit makes water?
Happy toknowyou ... It's a disgusting con.
get to the message with all these story 4 hours latter
These would be great in hurricane disaster locations where everything is saturated and humid, yet people die of thirst.
This, and other "We Do Great Things" presentations are seriously and, I sometimes do believe, deliberately lacking in technical specs or clear demonstrations of a fully working system. Grand proposals, but show me the proof of function, long term, with available raw data and whatever drawbacks discovered.
1:08
40 Billion Hours Every Year is like saying 50000 minutes for every hour😂
What a grave mistake was that
3:08 *CLOSETED BELIEVER?* *_Wanted to say "created" but to avoid prejudice & due to fear of being burned at the stake by the atheists he stifled himself & said "inspired by nature"._*
Who let this shit on TED?
These water condensers are the new 'Kony 2012s'
They won't ban this, but they have banned plenty of legitimate research because it threatened the orthodoxy.
Peter Condescending, shame on you! Haven't you ever been nervous? No need to be so unkind.
How condescending
Good information but it is painful to listen to him. Get to the f#@king point! Here's a new word....brevity.
Not sure why you 5hink Egypt dosent need You!!!??? We have lots of desert areas that could benefit from this...
Welcome!!!
We use a dehumidifier in the summer and I average 2 gals a day from June through mid September in East Texas. I use the water to water house plants & garden ....then store the rest in rain barrels, but I would love to change this to filter it for drinking.
Hey there, What power consumption is your de-humidifier rated at please ? My climate is similar to yours. Thank you !
Isn't water captured by dehumidified air devoid of all minerals...which is HARMFUL?
@@dannycbe949 I'm not sure. Since commenting 4 yrs ago a lot has changed. Then our house had a very old heat pump ac unit and it struggled to purge the humidity out through the drain tray exits properly. In other words it overflowed improperly and damaged sofets & ceilings. Thx goodness we caught it in time without too much cost and attached a pvc drain pipe for it to flow outside. I can't account for what minerals were or not in that water but it kept my hydrangeas in the color blooms they were intended to be. Water appeared to be rusty (iron enriched) which is good for hydrangeas. In addition, we also used an indoor portable dehumifier until we afford to purchase a proper size ac for our house. 5ton instead of the existing 4 that we had. I also invested in a Berkey water filteration counter top system and made another one from the youtuber "boss of the swamp" tutorial on how to do it. Less than half the cost of a big berkey and more capacity.
How can I contact him. My village has been so long facing water crisis.
Bro air doesn't turn into water, it's oxygen which is condensed and turns into water. U like scientists think over it.
my contribution to the science of survival in a changing world. With God's blessing I post these innovative solutions to problems survival in the next hundred years on earth.
Moses West had been already out there with a contraption that...
Hevwas all over the internet. If you do not acknowledge othet inventors that preceded you. Your claims are suspect.
Atmospheric water generators (Dehumidifiers w/a filtering system) have been around for DECADES. West didn't invent anything.
Watch at 1.5 × speed! X
Would this work in a tropical climate, as the ground doesn't cool off as much?
@ Kayena: if you go down far enough, the ground is cool as he says- even in a desert.
@@toml.8210 a lot of deserts have a high temperature difference between night and day, I think because the lack of clouds let the heat escape during the night. I live in a tropical climate close to the equator , with just a few degrees difference between night and day. When we go into a cave it can feel as got or hotter than the outside.
Thanks for ground breaking tech.
great job. im glad someone came out with this. i have my own created machine makes water from thin air as well. bit different. wonder what will happen mix the 2.
Explosion
@@13gladius28 He means to mix his idea with Konstantin's idea.