7:23 I'm bike shop mechanic and there is one issue. It's rare but I have seen a seized thru axel on 2 occasions. Covering the end could have meant those bikes would be in the trash.
that mono Tri-bar mount holes really open up this bike usability, as the saddle mount point also available to attack rear saddlepost bottlecage ala speedmax.
buyer beware: Wow look at the nice new shiny bike, it’s a beautiful piece of German engineering, but I want to let you know of my experience with Canyon Aeroad CF SL8. I too was delighted with the thought of a sophisticated bike at a reasonable price point. It came with a 6 year warranty, but that warranty is useless. I have logged over 30 thousand miles on my Specialized Allez with no major issues, I have replaced the gear cable for the rear derailleur a couple of times and the tires only once. My 11 month canyon had to have the bottom bracket replaced after only 5,000 miles. I reported this to Canyon and they are blaming me for not taking proper care of my bike. I loved this bike and looked after it accordingly. Washed at least once a week (no pressure wash) locked in the garage overnight and stored in the basement during the winter. After finding a mechanic who would repair my bike (most technician won’t ever look at a Canyon) he told me that the bottom bracket is a cheap one that has no seal against water and debris intrusion. It breaks my heart to have to write this but if I can at least help one person with this it will be worth it. Canyon did offer me a $75.00 voucher on their web site but to me thats useless.
@@kingcaid88it shows how frustrated and disappointed he is with Canyon after sale service. And if he didn’t neglect on his bicycle maintenance, he is rightfully frustrated.
I like the look of that gear groove a lot. The bottle cage adapter mount on the back of the seatpost is a very welcome addition as well. On hilly triathlon course a roadbike with clipons is the way to go. A couple of years ago one of the pro's won Ironman Nice with a setup like that, can't remember who it was. Lots of agegroupers are often undecided to either take a road or triathlon bike on a hilly longcours. I'm glad Canyon is getting back to its old ways of solid innovation.
While the thru axle cover looks great, I learned the hard way that I like the see the end of the thru axle to ensure I threaded the wheel properly. One time I didn't and my rear thru axle loosened itself and my rear wheel literally started coming off on a climb.
It is valued well not overpriced, but direct to consumer bike and you can't select crank lenght.Crank lenght preaty old school , so you basicly get a dura ace power meter which you need to sell most likley.
Have you asked Canyon? I did on my previous bike, i asked if i could get the 165mm from the 2xs on my medium sized bike (175mm default) & it wasn't an issue since they have the cranks available anyway on their "assembly line". Same with handlebar width, i asked but i ended up keeping the wider anyway.
At 5:18, the transition between the fixed and adjustable parts of the cockpit (where the bar tape begins) doesn't look smooth at all. It must be painful for the hands when climbing.
Great video as usual. Looking at the TT add-on to the bars - not sure that attachment / fitting would be strong / stable. To fit a computer into those holes is one thing, but a TT bar and extensions, I’m not so sure…
0:08 I have the canyon bottle cages on two bikes and they work perfectly with my camelback water bottles. David’s water bottle looked pretty cheap/ pore quality. He should try it with a good quality water bottle. The things people pick on.
Friend is Trying Vittoria Road Pro Cotton Graphene Tubeless Tyres on his Carbon Fibre CF Canyon Grail Gravel Bike, today was the first ride. After a few weeks of riding on them, il get him to do a video Review on the channel.
I think those cages are the ultra light canyon ones, those are advertised as canyon bottles only. Canyon also sells a "universal" carbon cage. Two different products
Dude, whoever is editing your videos needs to isolate the audio track from your lav mic and double it up to make it stereo- it’ll be much cleaner ; maybe take out the audio from the top mic- clear that the editor has used it to sync the audio for the cut- but you need to do a better audio mix- currently exporting with two unmixed audio tracks- which is why it sounds weird. If you need a bit of guidance- drop me a message :) no harm no foul but it detracts from the quality of the video overall and is distracting- make sure you do this for future videos ☺️👊🏽
Those closed off thru-axle ends in the rear mean you can only use these on direct drive trainers. Budget indoor trainers like the Kickr Snap don't seem to be usable with this. :/ Then again, if you can buy an Aeroad, you probably would own a direct drive trainer. Or just ride outdoors.
Nice bike.. but man can’t get on with that paint job looks cheap to me sorry David.. great idea on the fork, bad idea on the bottle cages.. just my pinions.. Pete 🚴🏻👍🚴♀️
The step gap where the drops attach to the main part of the bar is ghastly. Canyon, just offer normal bar choices, this is getting insane! (also nothing covers the seat post wedge bolt - on the most expensive model? So you have to look at that every time you go for ride?)
I prefer the look of the old seat stays. The gear groove, hmm... Well, it's OK as it brungs really good functionality. I miss the looks of the 62 mm DT Swiss in this version. Overall, a nice bike though.
Another great review...BUT what do you mean about 'rough roads?' I cycle in inner London, and I can only dream about road surfaces such as are in the video! To me, they looked unusually smoothe, you should see the pitted, degraded, poorly patched tarmac we have endure in London.
100% with you on the bars. Less is more and I'd prefer the new aero bars to be included and the cleaner look without the Gear Groove. PS: How good are those Feedback bike stands? I just got one recently and I love it.
Very nice looking bike. Just one question: How do you put this bike on your smarttrainer? I have the previous Aeroad model and a Tacx Neo 2 and needed that open thru axle end. How can I use my Tacx with enclosed thru axle endcaps, just wondering?!
@@PhilippTT95 no, i think these are new, larger cages. Ive also seen other reviewer's videos for this new Aeroad, and when they have other normal bottles in the cage (just sitting in the bike stand) and they are super loose, so loose you'd never ride with them except in an emergency
Do you have cracking noise on the Seatpost ? I just receive mine and have a very strange noise .. like a Big crack when I go UP and I Seat. Very strange I apply Grease and tighten correctly AT 5Nm
Surprised Canyon approve of this video as shows that clearly the cheaper bike is the best option for anyone having to buy their own bike. If you are good enough to need the top spec model you are likely being given the bike to ride.
i really like your new style of review where you actually compare stuff for once. and i can only confirm, this handlebar looks not a bit ugly, its ugly as fuck tbh.
How do we get a shorter/longer stem? I don't see anywhere on the website where you can choose a different size, nor is it possible to buy the handlebar separately with a different length afaik
@@tomwinterton7280 I know a lot of people (including myself) who use race bikes for ultra distance and bikepacking. Overall it's a small percentage, but I wouldn't buy the bike for that exact reason.
Sadly ever since Brexit Canyon don’t deliver to Northern Ireland so I can’t get one even if I wanted. Tried to buy an Ultimate a year or two ago and it failed as I’d put an address in NI. Contacted support, but they didn’t seem to care. Kept getting the same ‘we’re working on it’ message from them any time I checked for an update. There’s a similar message on their website from 2021 saying they’ll restart in a short time. In the end my cash went to Giant & it has been great. Not aware of any other manufacturers avoiding NI. Maybe I’ll buy a Canyon in a ‘short time’.
@@davidarthur That's impressive. If you get the dura ace build and swap the heavy 760gm power crankset out you're getting very close to 6.8kg on a true aero bike.
@@davidarthur My measurement is 78.5 cm. I don't know if the medium is too small for me. Knowing how much the bar drop is on the test bike would help me a lot in making a decision.
@@davidarthur frame stack 55.5 cm, Frame reach 39.8 cm It is a Specialized SL7 size 56. What worries me about the Canyon is the Head tube is very short at 14.2 cm and only has two cm of spacers, due to the height of the saddle it would have a difference saddle and handlebar more than 12cm
David - is that a HRM on your left arm? Curious how you like it compared to chest strap. I tried the Polar Verity Sense and found it slow to respond and inaccurate compared to the H10 chest strap.
The number is a mathematical estimation based on wind tunnel results. If i understand right it does NOT include things like tire rolling resistance or drivetrain inefficiency. It is a calculation of watts needed to overcome aerodynamic drag It's basically not relatable to actually riding the bike outside. It's just for comparison with other wind tunnel tested watts calculations.
Be careful when buying by Canyon. They have lousy after sales service. They refuse to sell a major structural component of the bike like a fork, right after the 3 year replacement service is over, arguing that they have a lack of spare parts. How is it possible not to have a stock of spare parts, right after 3 years?
Hi David, are the new Trek Madone and the Tarmac SL8 the most comfortable racebikes you have ever ridden? We in Germany have the same issues the bad roads that’s the reason why I’m asking… thank you
@@davidarthur Wish you a speed recovery David! Same here. Got a sore throat following my first imperial century ride on Saturday but I ignored it on following days and continued with my training at much reduced intensity. But still got sick...Now I am watching bike videos instead of riding my bike :))))
@@bernardo9202 yea, sadly it seems that you lack both the googleing skills and intelligence in general, because if you would have searched, you would see that the new top model is 1k EUR more expensive than the previous one. FU too mate
The only true innovation possible nowadays would be to change the antiquated, exposed, chain driven drive train, used in its current form for a hundred years. It works and it works well but s minimal maintenance, sealed system, shaft or belt driven would be good. Attempts have been made and there are the heavy Rohlof and Alfine hubs with planetary gearing but nothing of note yet for lightweight racers. Everything else has been done to death with small percentage aero gains which are best taken with a pinch of salt.
How do you mean? I did include the weight didn’t I? Or should have included film of it in the video do you mean? I should probably make that a standard feature
@@davidarthur Maybe my bad. I watched your video and haven´t recognized the weight. Do you have a time mark to jump to it? Thanks a lot for your videos, David!
@@bzzles You're only saving 48 grams on the frame compared to the old CFR. That number is statistically irrelevant to any professional seeking an advantage over the old offering. The biggest weigh savings are in the 50mm wheels on the new one versus the 60mm on the old. That difference is 204 grams. Who knows, maybe next year you'll have 30mm wheels on the CFR for another 200g savings. :) Aside from the structural changes on the frame, fork and handlebars, the new bike is a straight up money-grabbing gimmick. No bicycle racer except Mathiew Van der Pol should need anything more than the SLX, really.
All these „allrounders“ - so boring. This is not a true aero bike anymore. So be honest and dont call it Aeroad, like Specalized officilly killed the Venge.
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Yes please review SLX. Surely more relevant for most of us who can not afford a CFR
Would love a comparison of this versus the Factor Ostro and Giant Propel.
The only thing that impresses me about this bike is the rubber stoppers on the forks. Genius.
7:23 I'm bike shop mechanic and there is one issue. It's rare but I have seen a seized thru axel on 2 occasions. Covering the end could have meant those bikes would be in the trash.
I wish everyone knew to put anti seize on the threads.
Nobody likes a dry axle! Tiny bit of effort can prevent a lot of drama.
that mono Tri-bar mount holes really open up this bike usability, as the saddle mount point also available to attack rear saddlepost bottlecage ala speedmax.
buyer beware: Wow look at the nice new shiny bike, it’s a beautiful piece of German engineering, but I want to let you know of my experience with Canyon Aeroad CF SL8. I too was delighted with the thought of a sophisticated bike at a reasonable price point. It came with a 6 year warranty, but that warranty is useless. I have logged over 30 thousand miles on my Specialized Allez with no major issues, I have replaced the gear cable for the rear derailleur a couple of times and the tires only once. My 11 month canyon had to have the bottom bracket replaced after only 5,000 miles. I reported this to Canyon and they are blaming me for not taking proper care of my bike. I loved this bike and looked after it accordingly. Washed at least once a week (no pressure wash) locked in the garage overnight and stored in the basement during the winter. After finding a mechanic who would repair my bike (most technician won’t ever look at a Canyon) he told me that the bottom bracket is a cheap one that has no seal against water and debris intrusion. It breaks my heart to have to write this but if I can at least help one person with this it will be worth it. Canyon did offer me a $75.00 voucher on their web site but to me thats useless.
you’re literally posting this story everywhere mate. calm down
@@kingcaid88it shows how frustrated and disappointed he is with Canyon after sale service. And if he didn’t neglect on his bicycle maintenance, he is rightfully frustrated.
is it just me or the audio really sounds weird🤔🤔
and out of sync
I noticed it too. Something seems wrong with the sound.
Sold. Looks hot AF. Been waiting over a year for new model. Patience has paid off.
I bet there is another one in the Pipeline, so maybe wait a little more
@@kmmntrlsyou can always say that…. at some point you just ‚have to‘ accept that it wont always be brand new
@@florenzebg ya, that was my point, waiting makes no sence
Best Aero bike in the market. Besides The Giant Propel.
Excellent bike. Time to upgrade
Glad they fixed the headset bearings. Major issue on the older bike . Mine were toast after six months.
I like the look of that gear groove a lot. The bottle cage adapter mount on the back of the seatpost is a very welcome addition as well. On hilly triathlon course a roadbike with clipons is the way to go. A couple of years ago one of the pro's won Ironman Nice with a setup like that, can't remember who it was. Lots of agegroupers are often undecided to either take a road or triathlon bike on a hilly longcours. I'm glad Canyon is getting back to its old ways of solid innovation.
While the thru axle cover looks great, I learned the hard way that I like the see the end of the thru axle to ensure I threaded the wheel properly. One time I didn't and my rear thru axle loosened itself and my rear wheel literally started coming off on a climb.
Nice review mate! But I still prefer SL8 though :)
Your channel become one of my fav channels now 😊. Hopefully I can do a ride with you guys one day
Aero > Lightweight
Also SL8 has a better resale value
@@anglingangling9464 that's because it costs so much more in the first place
Bottle cages don’t come with the bike, optional additional purchase.
Hi David, re-fork bumpers. I make my own from 3M 2228 mastic tape. Works a treat.
It is valued well not overpriced, but direct to consumer bike and you can't select crank lenght.Crank lenght preaty old school , so you basicly get a dura ace power meter which you need to sell most likley.
Indeed, I also want the option to select stem length. The flared drops should be selectable as well.
all about reducing SKU and packaging cost
@@zihaoye2382 i now but this might work for bike up to 5k not cfr top of the line 9k bike where changing crank is 1000 $+
Have you asked Canyon? I did on my previous bike, i asked if i could get the 165mm from the 2xs on my medium sized bike (175mm default) & it wasn't an issue since they have the cranks available anyway on their "assembly line". Same with handlebar width, i asked but i ended up keeping the wider anyway.
Yes i did in the past but it won't work. I want to change cranks in speedmax
It's a nice bike! But I still love my Specialized SL7 and SL8. Great video presentation overall👍
The quill stem thing thin is so handy
Aeroad always gets better and better!
At 5:18, the transition between the fixed and adjustable parts of the cockpit (where the bar tape begins) doesn't look smooth at all. It must be painful for the hands when climbing.
Great review as always . One more point to add , now with the new cockpit you can transform it to triathlon bike with the new aerobars.
Great video as usual. Looking at the TT add-on to the bars - not sure that attachment / fitting would be strong / stable. To fit a computer into those holes is one thing, but a TT bar and extensions, I’m not so sure…
I'm really having a hard time deciding between this and an Ultimate - when's the full review coming?
0:08
I have the canyon bottle cages on two bikes and they work perfectly with my camelback water bottles.
David’s water bottle looked pretty cheap/ pore quality.
He should try it with a good quality water bottle.
The things people pick on.
Friend is Trying Vittoria Road Pro Cotton Graphene Tubeless Tyres on his Carbon Fibre CF Canyon Grail Gravel Bike, today was the first ride.
After a few weeks of riding on them, il get him to do a video Review on the channel.
Fancy colors on higher end models only as always with Canyon...
I agree the Gear groove slot is ugly and ruins the look of the handlebar. I did however order the SLX 7 because it just looks so good in white.
I think those cages are the ultra light canyon ones, those are advertised as canyon bottles only. Canyon also sells a "universal" carbon cage. Two different products
Dude, whoever is editing your videos needs to isolate the audio track from your lav mic and double it up to make it stereo- it’ll be much cleaner ; maybe take out the audio from the top mic- clear that the editor has used it to sync the audio for the cut- but you need to do a better audio mix- currently exporting with two unmixed audio tracks- which is why it sounds weird. If you need a bit of guidance- drop me a message :) no harm no foul but it detracts from the quality of the video overall and is distracting- make sure you do this for future videos ☺️👊🏽
Could never afford one but it does look very nice.
Maybe the bottle cages fit the slightly larger 1 liter waters sold in stores? Good to know they are a seperate purchase.
This bike gets close in the overall look compared to the S-Works Venge. But the Venge is still the most beautiful bike!🥵
What’s the saddle to bar drop on the medium you’ve been riding? Wondering if my 115mm drop would be manageable on the large I would fit
I don't see any difference to the previous model but the fork pumpers are a real gamechanger...
Rower petarda ! Pozdrowienia z Polski
As an owner of the previous model, and a 70.3 athlete I’m rather peeved I can’t retrofit the clip on bars with the bars on my bike
Those closed off thru-axle ends in the rear mean you can only use these on direct drive trainers. Budget indoor trainers like the Kickr Snap don't seem to be usable with this. :/ Then again, if you can buy an Aeroad, you probably would own a direct drive trainer. Or just ride outdoors.
Title is very bad clickbait, c'mon man! No, they haven't ruined it.
Agree, very unnecessary and pure click bait.
Must have changed the Titel
Hi Dave any chance you can review the Ribble All Road Ti keen to understand how it stacks up vs the Moots?
Nice bike.. but man can’t get on with that paint job looks cheap to me sorry David.. great idea on the fork, bad idea on the bottle cages.. just my pinions.. Pete 🚴🏻👍🚴♀️
Fair enough!
The step gap where the drops attach to the main part of the bar is ghastly. Canyon, just offer normal bar choices, this is getting insane! (also nothing covers the seat post wedge bolt - on the most expensive model? So you have to look at that every time you go for ride?)
13:43 so if it only fits a specific bottle they couldve made it an aero cage/bottle.
I prefer the look of the old seat stays. The gear groove, hmm... Well, it's OK as it brungs really good functionality.
I miss the looks of the 62 mm DT Swiss in this version.
Overall, a nice bike though.
Another great review...BUT what do you mean about 'rough roads?' I cycle in inner London, and I can only dream about road surfaces such as are in the video! To me, they looked unusually smoothe, you should see the pitted, degraded, poorly patched tarmac we have endure in London.
100% with you on the bars. Less is more and I'd prefer the new aero bars to be included and the cleaner look without the Gear Groove. PS: How good are those Feedback bike stands? I just got one recently and I love it.
It’s cleaner but… as an ultra cyclist and run-bike-runner simply brilliant. First decent solution as you also want a ‘normal’ roadbike.
It would be nice if they let you get the team colors
Very nice looking bike. Just one question: How do you put this bike on your smarttrainer? I have the previous Aeroad model and a Tacx Neo 2 and needed that open thru axle end. How can I use my Tacx with enclosed thru axle endcaps, just wondering?!
That's a good question and I don't know to be honest, but I'll ask Canyon
Very nice outfit by the way. A shame they didn't send you the CFRs other color option. That would have been a great match. :-)
what it comes with bottle cages that cant fit other bottles that’s crazy
nah, got those on my ultimate and every kind of bottle I have fits perfectly in those. don't know which tiny bottles are used here :)
@@PhilippTT95 no, i think these are new, larger cages. Ive also seen other reviewer's videos for this new Aeroad, and when they have other normal bottles in the cage (just sitting in the bike stand) and they are super loose, so loose you'd never ride with them except in an emergency
Does anyone know what the 56 size equivalent is in Canyon S,M,L?
I also use the Hammerhead. Which mounting system did you use for the Aeroad?
Could you please let me know where to get the Karoo mounting system in this video? Thanks
Hi David
You also tested a new Dogma F. Are there significant climbing performances differences between both ?
Do you have cracking noise on the Seatpost ? I just receive mine and have a very strange noise .. like a Big crack when I go UP and I Seat. Very strange I apply Grease and tighten correctly AT 5Nm
Surprised Canyon approve of this video as shows that clearly the cheaper bike is the best option for anyone having to buy their own bike. If you are good enough to need the top spec model you are likely being given the bike to ride.
Nice shoes👍
Agree the new handlebar looks worse than the previous model but this bike is great value compared to some other high end bikes.
I would argue whether this handlebar is one-piece :P
Haha yes technically it’s not 😜
i really like your new style of review where you actually compare stuff for once. and i can only confirm, this handlebar looks not a bit ugly, its ugly as fuck tbh.
How do we get a shorter/longer stem? I don't see anywhere on the website where you can choose a different size, nor is it possible to buy the handlebar separately with a different length afaik
hey can you review the new Seka Spear?
I have a huge complaint about the closed thru axles: You can't use systems like the Tailfin bag.
Not sure pannier compatibility is top priority for engineers working on an aero race bike.
@@tomwinterton7280 I know a lot of people (including myself) who use race bikes for ultra distance and bikepacking. Overall it's a small percentage, but I wouldn't buy the bike for that exact reason.
Did you slow the audio and video? You voice sounds deeper and slower in this video.
Hopefully, the rear triangle is stiffer than the last one; it was squishy.
Hi - is it 7.1kg with pedals / cages - eg ready to ride? Also agree with you on the aesthetics of the bar mount 👎🏻 and paint job 👍🏻
that's 7.1kg with no pedals, just cages and computer mount
Hello mate.what is the effective reach and stack against old one?i saw that it is actually 1cm lower so more agresive then old one
Sadly ever since Brexit Canyon don’t deliver to Northern Ireland so I can’t get one even if I wanted.
Tried to buy an Ultimate a year or two ago and it failed as I’d put an address in NI. Contacted support, but they didn’t seem to care. Kept getting the same ‘we’re working on it’ message from them any time I checked for an update. There’s a similar message on their website from 2021 saying they’ll restart in a short time. In the end my cash went to Giant & it has been great. Not aware of any other manufacturers avoiding NI.
Maybe I’ll buy a Canyon in a ‘short time’.
No friends in Ireland? I live in Switzerland and get things often shipped to the German side of the border
What sort of speed gains would you typicallly see on a bike like this for similar watts vs for example the Ultimate?
It's the pilot, not the plane.
What size is it Dave? 7.1kg as shown with pedals etc? Cheers mate, love your reviews.
It's a size medium and weight is without pedals, just the bottle cages and computer mount. And thanks! :)
@@davidarthur That's impressive. If you get the dura ace build and swap the heavy 760gm power crankset out you're getting very close to 6.8kg on a true aero bike.
What size bike are you testing? Medium or large What is your saddle measurement? 76 or 77 cm
Medium and saddle height is 76
@@davidarthur My measurement is 78.5 cm. I don't know if the medium is too small for me. Knowing how much the bar drop is on the test bike would help me a lot in making a decision.
@@robertovazquez3348 what’s the stack and reach of your current bike compared to the Aeroad?
@@davidarthur frame stack 55.5 cm, Frame reach 39.8 cm It is a Specialized SL7 size 56. What worries me about the Canyon is the Head tube is very short at 14.2 cm and only has two cm of spacers, due to the height of the saddle it would have a difference saddle and handlebar more than 12cm
David - is that a HRM on your left arm? Curious how you like it compared to chest strap. I tried the Polar Verity Sense and found it slow to respond and inaccurate compared to the H10 chest strap.
It’s a Coros and do love not having an uncomfortable chest band - need to do some comparison testing see how accurate it is
Are those fantastic wheels hookless?
Yup
What kind of rear light is this?
One that comes with the bike
wth, the handlebar slot in the center is so ugly
Indeed
204W to hold 45kp/h? Or is that just the frame/bike?
That's just for the frame and a leg-only mannequin, measured according to the Tour Magazin wind tunnel protocol.
The number is a mathematical estimation based on wind tunnel results. If i understand right it does NOT include things like tire rolling resistance or drivetrain inefficiency. It is a calculation of watts needed to overcome aerodynamic drag
It's basically not relatable to actually riding the bike outside.
It's just for comparison with other wind tunnel tested watts calculations.
Yes they have peaked at 5000 euros. Certainly not paying for 14 watts
I cut a piece of helicopter tape adhere to the bottom of fork. Canyon copied me!!!
If you had 8k and could only buy one bike, what would it be?
Be careful when buying by Canyon. They have lousy after sales service.
They refuse to sell a major structural component of the bike like a fork, right after the 3 year replacement service is over, arguing that they have a lack of spare parts. How is it possible not to have a stock of spare parts, right after 3 years?
cons: Hookless rim and pressfit button bracket
10K for a bike is insane!
Cheaper models are available the same as cars, houses, phones etc
@@davidarthur that's definitely not a justification for this insane price..
@@IK47-d2l there are cheaper models of course, the Aeroad CF SL range is worth checking out
Those bottle cages 🤦🏻♂️
Hi David, are the new Trek Madone and the Tarmac SL8 the most comfortable racebikes you have ever ridden? We in Germany have the same issues the bad roads that’s the reason why I’m asking… thank you
The Tarmac is definitely one of the best, the Enve Melee too
@@davidarthur and the TCR?
Having "Ultimate" as part of the title here makes it super confusing to read
Cool bike. I would go with this thx to price. Nice details. The slr8 looks better, though. Nice video.😊
Got a flu David? Too much bike riding I guess :)
Ha yeah have been a bit under with something this week, usually have hayfever/sinus issues in the summer 😥
@@davidarthur Wish you a speed recovery David! Same here. Got a sore throat following my first imperial century ride on Saturday but I ignored it on following days and continued with my training at much reduced intensity. But still got sick...Now I am watching bike videos instead of riding my bike :))))
Wow. Jest get the old cfr with carbon cage bottles, and it’s the same ! Only fit to canyon bottles
Wonder if there will be a manual shifting option
Wahhh? You mean mechanical?
Looks really dated
It's the same bike from 2011 or even earlier..
The same but more expensive - ftfy :))
Actually the same price and the lower models are cheaper, google is free, unfortunately intelligence isn't
@@bernardo9202 yea, sadly it seems that you lack both the googleing skills and intelligence in general, because if you would have searched, you would see that the new top model is 1k EUR more expensive than the previous one. FU too mate
Clickbait meister
Definitely is not better then tarmac sl8 and is absolutely ugly bike . Personal opinion better s works venge 2020 over this bike
The only true innovation possible nowadays would be to change the antiquated, exposed, chain driven drive train, used in its current form for a hundred years. It works and it works well but s minimal maintenance, sealed system, shaft or belt driven would be good. Attempts have been made and there are the heavy Rohlof and Alfine hubs with planetary gearing but nothing of note yet for lightweight racers. Everything else has been done to death with small percentage aero gains which are best taken with a pinch of salt.
No real weight, David? Suspicous ;)
How do you mean? I did include the weight didn’t I? Or should have included film of it in the video do you mean? I should probably make that a standard feature
@@davidarthur Maybe my bad. I watched your video and haven´t recognized the weight. Do you have a time mark to jump to it?
Thanks a lot for your videos, David!
@@kallewirsch7915 9:38 for the weight, 7,1kg.
@@kallewirsch7915 7.1kg 👍
@@davidarthur Thank you!
They dropped the weight by giving people shallower wheels. LOL.
who cares if it has the same wind tunnel numbers. Maybe it looks better but personally I'll take the weight savings.
@@bzzles
You're only saving 48 grams on the frame compared to the old CFR. That number is statistically irrelevant to any professional seeking an advantage over the old offering. The biggest weigh savings are in the 50mm wheels on the new one versus the 60mm on the old. That difference is 204 grams.
Who knows, maybe next year you'll have 30mm wheels on the CFR for another 200g savings. :)
Aside from the structural changes on the frame, fork and handlebars, the new bike is a straight up money-grabbing gimmick. No bicycle racer except Mathiew Van der Pol should need anything more than the SLX, really.
All these „allrounders“ - so boring. This is not a true aero bike anymore. So be honest and dont call it Aeroad, like Specalized officilly killed the Venge.
2/10 paint job - literally just stealth black with a tiny bit of fleck
LOL why is the audio playing at 80%? David sounds like his ba11s finally dropped.
yeah sorry about that not sure what went wrong in the editing for this one. Won't happen again!
I am trying to do my best to not purchase this, let's see what happens, lol!
@@86Digilio u sound high bro
Idk why, but I can’t imagine a more boring, soulless bike.
It’s my favorite available for sale this year!