“Building cities in the desert, what could go wrong” … If I had a dollar for every time someone said this, I’d build southern CA a couple of desalination plants.
Don't forget to also build the power plants to provide the energy to run those desalination plants. And come up with a good plan regarding what to do with the toxic brine generated as a waste product. It's all doable, but it's not quite that simple.
@@antred11 I've always thought that desalination was relatively easy, by just distilling the water and adding minerals, what makes the by product so toxic? Genuine question please don't harm me.
@@ElderAleks Well, everything you remove from the ocean water to make it potable is what comes out as a waste product. Tons and tons of extremely salty brine. So highly concentrated that it basically is toxic to almost any kind of life.
@@erikalbinsson4928 By the way, I'm not arguing against desalination ... I fear in the long run this will definitely have to be part of the solution, as there aren't a whole lot of other untapped fresh water sources left. I'm just saying this approach doesn't come without its own problems.
The government talks about not wasting water but they don’t talk about consumption. California almonds consume 1,000,000,000,000 gallons of water per year and agriculture in California represents about 70% of all water consumption. It would take three planets of golf courses to equate to what is being done in the name of packaged almond products.
@@ravensfan5998 nope, the Vaal dam that supplies Johannesburg was over 100% after our summer rains. It's not always like that, but we haven't been decreasing the level every year for 20 years.
@@the_real_hislordship yes you are correct but in the same breath years of water contamination from raw sewage is plaguing one of South Africa's biggest water bodies the Val dam on which about 19 million people depend. Hoover dam supplies water to 25 million people across Western States..... I totally just googled that. 😂🤙
You...not us. And don't worry, we're entering into the next Ice Age right now. Wait a few years for the current weather fluctuations to settle into the global freezing that is gradually starting to become more apparent each year.
@Blah Blah If it's any consolation, it's one of the more well-written ones. New Vegas has a lot of issues, but being non-deliberately stupid isn't one of them.
"The dam functions like a bank account" Americans are about as good at conserving water as they are at managing money.... "It makes me wonder if my grandchildren will have the same resources I had" No they wont, your grandchildren can't even afford to buy a house because of your generation.
In the future I would not be surprised if people come to the conclusion that Southern California was a gigantic mistake. Without all the water diverted from Northern California and the Lake Mead reservoir Southern California would never have been possible. In fact if you go back in time 200 years it becomes clear that drought is the normal condition of the SoCal region
Even worse, SoCal would have still have been entirely possible because around that same time period of 200 years prior, there used to exist Lake Cahuilla, which was one of the largest lakes in the entire country, but the lake disappeared when some greedy businessmen bought the entire lake just to empty and drain in our. Given the size of Lake Cauhilla, it would have easily been possible for it to support several million people. Now SoCal has to rely on Lake Mead…
@@chadodell4887 if climate scientists were correct about 10% of the claims they make, the world would have ended by now. This issue has zero to do with climate scientists and their garbage models and more to do with poor management. Like we all can gather from a simple look at population data and satellite imagery, there was going to be over consumption. You can't make farms in the desert and have rapid population growth over a period of two decades and not expect changes in water consumption if it was breaking even about 20yrs ago and the few before that.
I just love imagining people at the BBC wondering what the hell all these people are talking about with Mr House, the Legion, nuclear winters, and the NCR. Ave, true to Caesar.
"Monster of the East, huh? Well I've got the Monster of the West in my holster right now. Hope I get to introduce them." -random Desert Ranger and fuck Caesar Legion
Folks, this is a serious problem we are facing and if we dont deal with it, terrible conflicts over water will be the result. So please listen when I try to explain what the true problem is and lets work together around improving this dire situation. Most people will jump to the conclusion that water usage is the problem. While we can improve how we use water, yearly decreases in total amount of water will eventually lead to our efforts in saving water being for nothing. The problem is the decreasing amount of water that is available every year. Western America is drying out on a massive scale because we do not understand how to manage land in a way that improves the water cycle. By water cycle I simply mean how much water is infiltrating into the soil and feeding plants, aquifers and river, and how much is running off creating flood and/or evaporating out of the soil quickly. The worse our management, the more water will end up running off and evaporating, so this is where we can do something to improve our situation. We are SO depended on a healthy environment to sustain our cities and civilizations, and we have to start understanding and recognizing this! So lets stop fighting and lets unity around this task instead.
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People who live along a very significant river basin?
@@krismine99 Exactly, the efficiency of water use in traditional agriculture is simply not up to spec with the demand. It was OK when demand was lower, but today it's simply not good enough. We need to start thinking of more efficient ways to farm, or more aggressively use ones already invented that farmers are too lazy to implement.
Clearly you have no idea what is going on. Most places across the west have been consumed with uncharacteristically dry conditions for the past 10 years, depleting our water supply. In the past two years many locations have received less than a 3rd of normal precipitation totals. Drought is common in the west but drought to these extremes is uncalled for and the result of climate change.
@ユジン one day Alaska will become the most important state when all that snow and ice and shit melts the natural resources within will be unlocked and this is pretty important when you remember Alaska is much bigger then Texas land wise
@ユジン Yep, but for some reason in California big valley [the one that the size of England], that they are covering all the good farm land with housing tracks, pushing farmers up the side of the coastal mountain range and foothills. Probably adding to the need to grow crops elsewhere.
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 I hope it doesn't melt. The levels of methane trapped in the soil up there and in Siberia could accelerate global warming to a point where we have temperate rainforests in the Arctic circle.
@@cesarcueto1995 Not as ridiculous as SoCal building and developing as fast as they can. And not as ridiculous as California adding over 1,200 new vineyards in the past 20 years. And not as ridiculous as the SF Bay area refusing to fix sewage leaks requiring the release of tons of water in order to flush the crap out of their bay.
Same reason why the public didn't panic when CO2 levels rose from 280ppm in 1950s to 320ppm in 1980s to 400ppm in 2010. People refused to look disaster in the eye and accept that it is there, until it is too late to do anything. Also capitalism is unable to solve long term problems. It is very short sighted.
They will only panic about two days in to not having anything to eat and nothing to drink. Ohh wait, they'll panic when their grass dries up first, then they'll worry about food and water.
I’m sure some are panicking, yet can’t do anything to make an impact themselves. I hope the people conserve, and I hope industry does too and doesn’t undercut the people’s efforts.
@@The411 Educate yourself. There are desal plants on the California coast, but that is only a supplemental resource not a primary one. That demands for water in the southwest are far greater then can be met with desalination plants. Those plants are also very expensive.
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 expensive? dont drink water for 2 days and then let me sell you a glass of water. not having enough water for everyone is way more expensive.
@@guyincognito210 Not having enough water for everyone is what's coming and soon. The SW is likely to get worse first as it already is. Fires will increase along with more extreme heat waves. The Rio Grande in New Mexico is drying out for miles long stretches even now.
@@ep5019 You idiot, that's like saying people who eat ice cream and cereals are all conservatives. Those almonds are export all over the world for money, not even eaten here. You want conservative bashing? They grow even more alfalfa to feed dairy cows and the dairy farmers are all over producing to a point they are dumping milk they cannot sell. Talking about "all that other shit" that conservatives do.
you know you are in the most capitalist country in the world when the guy has to explain the flow of water in and out of the lake using money analogy...that's just sad
@@stephenhill8790 I said "the vast majority" not "everyone". Btw, the homelessness rate in America is not high compared to most other countries, specially in Europe.
Breaking news: Diverting a river to flow 200 miles so people living in a literal desert can have green lawns causes water shortages. Hmmm it appears the floor is made of floor.
Well to be fair the system works when the entire region isn’t consumed with drought. For 2 years western locations have gotten less than a 3rd of normal precipitation. That’s nothing short of devastation
@@krismine99 Gardening is evolving thanks to technology, Singapore is speed throttling the garden tech with vertical gardens. Big changes are coming thanks to Singapore. Golf courses will never change, i stay a 1 mile walk from the oldest golf courses in the entire world, they'll never change, farming/gardening will. Singapore tech is coming
@@FunnyCallsPrank 74% of their water goes to farming. Pull up google maps of Arizona and compare the land usage of the two. Golf courses are vastly smaller and vertical farming likely won't reduce the need for the land or water drastically enough to even put them on the same playing field. We also know the negative effects and wastefulness of desert farming because the soviets did it first. Look up the Aral Sea and you'll find that desert farming is so inefficient that they nearly drained one of the worlds largest inland bodies of water for crops and failed drastically.
@@krismine99 As water prices increase so will farming technology, farmers are engineers at their core, they've just been lazy due to no increase hassle to their laziness, increases in water bills will force them to become civil engineers again to save money. Everyone will look to Singapore vertical garden tech really soon, worlds gonna look the movie inception, i have a softspot for farmers, golfers however i have no remorse for
About 25 years ago here in UK I used to windsurf on local reservoirs near London. They got so low they almost became unusable. Local news and government spoke about building giant pipes from hundreds of miles north to transport water. This was of course because of ‘global warming’ which at the time said to only become worse. No pipes were built and now the local reservoirs are full. Weather patterns are cyclical, so long as not too much water is irrigated the problem may eventually solve itself.
True - we aren't destroying mother nature. We are only destroying our planet's ability to sustain our species. The dinosaurs reigned for millions of years. This place won't shed a tear after we're gone.
@@KopperNeoman No.. we won’t become a proper spacefaring civilisation - we will die out before that (probability says due to a variety of issues which may hit us without any notice).. in that case it won’t be our remnants who will probably survive.. they say insects or birds or molecular sea / land creatures.. takes too much to make us survive.. we’re good when there aren’t many sudden changes. When there are - we suck really..
If only it was possible to create a machine that could equally distribute rain to the planet because in Ireland we get too much rain and deserts don't get enough rain
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 uhhhh yeah there is, the military has been using this technology to manipulate the weather since the 1950s, a little something called H.A.A.R.P otherwise known as high frequency active auroral research program, how the hell is it in america the west coast suffering a drought while the entire east coast is flooded with rain, THAT is not normal, that is known as GEO engineering....
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 Becareful what you wish for. if the rain is distributed equally, theres no such thing as climate. Equality doesnt mean all people gonna be happy, sometimes it can lead to destruction. (Also, no weather and sea current. europe will be winter all year long.)
I like how the guy at the end wonders if his grandchildren will have the same amount of water. If the water dropped from 95% to 35% after 22 years, even he won't have the same amount of water in 12 more years.
How about that millions of people are living where they really have no business living - at least not in the quality of life and extravagance that we see them in today.
Folks, this is a serious problem we are facing and if we dont deal with it, terrible conflicts over water will be the result. So please listen when I try to explain what the true problem is and lets work together around improving this dire situation. Most people will jump to the conclusion that water usage is the problem. While we can improve how we use water, yearly decreases in total amount of water will eventually lead to our efforts in saving water being for nothing. The problem is the decreasing amount of water that is available every year. Western America is drying out on a massive scale because we do not understand how to manage land in a way that improves the water cycle. By water cycle I simply mean how much water is infiltrating into the soil and feeding plants, aquifers and river, and how much is running off creating flood and/or evaporating out of the soil quickly. The worse our management, the more water will end up running off and evaporating, so this is where we can do something to improve our situation. We are SO depended on a healthy environment to sustain our cities and civilizations, and we have to start understanding and recognizing this! So lets stop fighting and lets unity around this task instead.
If they can’t find water then absolutely I would suggest they go somewhere else. Just as if you can’t find winter clothing you have no business living in the Artic. Clearly it is not an environment capable of sustaining life - or at least not that much of it.
That's actually not the case. Before you make an argument, look at where most of the water consumption goes. Plants take up more than people, hence the new policies that only allow desert flora.
Honestly everyone likes to point at Vegas but they are a drop in the bucket compared to everyone else. They've been in the desert since the 40s, they aren't new to the situation and are well aware of the costs of water. The Mirage with the big fountain? Yeah that water is recycled. It's filtered just like a swimming pool and the water is pumped around and around. That water fountain takes less than 500 gallons a day from the water lines, which is the national average water consumption for 5 adults. The average American uses 91 gallons of water a day. Mostly in the form of showers. So if you wanna save water, gotta let that BO fly and cover it up with perfume like the French do
The hypocritical attitude complaining about climate change whilst not looking at their own consumption. V8 cars to do 10 mile trips, over the top energy consumption, an overpopulation with more and more parents banging out kids. They just can’t see they’re destroying their kids future.
Yeah um not sure if most people know this but homes and apartments use like 12% of all the water being used each day. Take a guess who uses the other 88%. Basically individuals are being tricked into thinking they are the issue....but it is really just industry inefficiency.
If farming in the desert seemed a bad idea. Not sure ask a 5 year old and will tell you the answer right away. But no, how about doing it for a few decades with heavy irrigation and you'll find out when shit hits the fan.
Even in The Netherlands we are dealing with fresh water shortages (not to this extended). Only this year we seem to have recovered at least our ground water levels. But nature itself will take a few more years to recover from the drought we've had in the last few years. The fact that even we (a low river delta land) are having fresh water issues every now and then, just shows what a huge problem this will be for the US. I guess we are really consuming too much of our planet.
Our planet is a closed system for the most part. We can’t consume water, it doesn’t vanish, but it can be used on stupid shit making shortages in areas frequent.
@@LucasCarter2 making clean water into unusable waste is for me equal to consuming it ;) Otherwise the word consuming can never be used for anything, since atoms don't suddenly disappear for good ;)
TBH. Earth has survived 4+ billion years. It doesn't need us. So, to say "earth is in danger" is being selfishly hypocritical. We better own up to our mistakes & act responsibly for a better future or face the consequences both of which will impact our children.
Yes, Earth did just fine until we humans came along! But now Earth is in danger because of our mismanagement of nature. We have enough technical knowledge to destroy the planet, but not enough to save it. And never mind your children, it's happening right here and right now!
Sanctimonious environmentalists are going to seethe from whatever afterlife there is as humans save the Earth from the dying sun. It's a rock. It isn't alive. The "environment" only matters insofar as it can sustain human life.
But mommy well that lack of water Force Millions of people from their homes to move into new areas throughout the country and drain our resources as well Because they have no other place to go
Listen, there has always been available water. But climate change changed that. Whether the area was a desert does not matter. What matters is, there is less water flowing in because there is lesser rain.
I mean I can see why they wanted to build a city in the Desert land would be sand cheap and yes that's a pun and when you think of how much land the US has that's Desert that's a pretty big chunk
All the experts in the comments saying “gOlF cOuRsEs” have no idea what is going on. The western United States have been consumed in a drought for the past decade, and over the past 2 years have received about a 3rd of normal precipitation in most areas. This combined with record heat seemingly daily across the region has depleted our water supply.
yeah, everyone knows we are in a drought. I think the point is during a harsh drought, we shouldn’t be using what little water we do have for luxury things like golf courses. we only drink about 1/2 gallon a day yet we use about 100 gallons a day. its on everyone to limit their water consumption. water is vital yet not an unlimited resource.
The USA needs to use permaculture to regreenify its desertifying regions. Look at zaytuna farm Australia, greening the desert program in Jordan. Where there have been wildfires they need to dig swales on contour... it could be a spades with it would be 3m wide. This prevents soil erosion and holds water after rains so it permeates into the ground, wetter ground means more moisture means less risk of wildfire, in gulleys and washes they need to put loose rocks in a berm/ dam formation, this prevents soil erosion and provides a shady area for the water to permeate down into the ground which means the plant biodiversity will increase. This is a self regenerating system for water and biodiversity providing if we can maintain the swales and berms. It will take 15 years to see major changes and for it to be self sustaining but it is possible. In Africa they are applying this in a 15km band across the south if the Sahara desert to halt the desertification process and reverse it. China's loss plateau has transformed over a million hectares for $500m turning desert into lush green agricultural land. In Saudi Arabia the al abayadi..... what was rock is now Savannah. Zaytuna farm was desert cow ranch...... now it grow everything from mangos, bamboo, apples fruit, veg, nut trees and rainfall takes a year for water to reach the river from the hilltop, new springs have formed and they are now introducing chinampas (inca/Aztec floating wicking agricultural rafts) but the ranch next door is desert. India are now beginning to use it to rejuvenate their water sources. Ethiopia implemented it on a national scale and got themselves out of a food shortage starvation crisis.
surprise surprise, they waste wayyy too much water... desert climates are not for: farming, green lawns, massive golf courses, large cities... it's simply unsustainable unless you decide to permanently turn a wet climate dry just to sustain what has been built. purifying and recycling the water is also a solution, but it's terribly managed atm
"We won't go quietly, the legion can count on that."
Hey smoothskin, have you got any spare caps?
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
Patrolling the Mojave almost make you wish for a nuclear winter
@@tipe5273 dammit, trippy how im a second behind but my comment is above.
@@melelconquistador I have some mole rat meat for sale, it's all yours for just 50 caps smoothskin.
Mr House was born in 2020 so just wait for him to fix this.
Sadly he'll never have that amazing, security officer voice.
Lmeo
@@anivicuno9473 RIP René Auberjonois...
He never got that platinum chip. The house has gone bust.
Jim will fix it
Desert cities, golf courses, invasive green lawns, water-hoarding crops, cattle, etc., etc.
Yup
Bingo
What? No problem. Nothing to see here. Just go about your business. NOT!
And vineyards, car washes, uncontrollable growth in SoCal.
Climate change
Comments are half legitimate explanations and half Fallout: New Vegas memes, as to be expected.
Las Vegas isn't the problem. Los Angeles is.
@@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 Perhaps, in time, I will be granted the honor of conquering the land known as California.
@@El_Descarriado You can’t rule it any worse than it is already.
@EbonySaints, perfectly balanced - as all things should be.
@@ummdustry5718 nature doesn’t balance. That’s why animals’ populations surge and crash.
“You take a sip from your trusty Vault 13 canteen.”
Lol I have such a juicy vagine
@@lindzeesouperocd7558
It wasn’t your turn to share.
@@macc1232 my apologies.
While you blow up an entire underground base of the Brotherhood of Steel.
Should ban open drain irrigation. Period. Same here in Australia. Farming on land that was never meant to be farmed.
And ban grass lawns in this desert climate
@@barisandmoos348 so what your saying is we shldnt trust you as you are an evil actor that mean its all true right gotcha good to know
@@barisandmoos348 "Don't trust them, they are evil."
Sources: Me. Trust.
@@barisandmoos348
Go back to watching your Qanon channel and leave the rest of us alone!
Take it you still want you cheap food though..
“Building cities in the desert, what could go wrong” …
If I had a dollar for every time someone said this, I’d build southern CA a couple of desalination plants.
Don't forget to also build the power plants to provide the energy to run those desalination plants. And come up with a good plan regarding what to do with the toxic brine generated as a waste product. It's all doable, but it's not quite that simple.
@@antred11 I've always thought that desalination was relatively easy, by just distilling the water and adding minerals, what makes the by product so toxic? Genuine question please don't harm me.
@@ElderAleks Well, everything you remove from the ocean water to make it potable is what comes out as a waste product. Tons and tons of extremely salty brine. So highly concentrated that it basically is toxic to almost any kind of life.
@@antred11 Mix it with the treated wastewater before releasing back into the ocean ?
@@erikalbinsson4928 By the way, I'm not arguing against desalination ... I fear in the long run this will definitely have to be part of the solution, as there aren't a whole lot of other untapped fresh water sources left. I'm just saying this approach doesn't come without its own problems.
Wow. Who would of thought building huge cities where there is no water would become a problem?
Oh wow another person with the same comment to make.
Ask Saudi Arabia and the UAE if they're thinking like that
@@ujirooduokpe8243 They used sea water.
You sir should be a consultant obviously.
@@cesarcueto1995 oh wow, the comment police that make sure people dont have the same thoughts. Guess what, you took the time to add nothing.
I can't believe both the NCR and Legion are fighting over a pond
A RADIOACTIVE pond!
@@axelhopfinger533 it's not about the pond, it's about sending a message
@@petar932 A RADIOACTIVE message?
@@axelhopfinger533 exactly
"Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter."
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
I got spurs that jingle, jingle jangle.
Russia will provide the "winter" soon enough.
@@L8Pl Everyone who watched the report and saw exactly what was happening!
Almost like making golf courses in the dessert isn't the brightest idea
The government talks about not wasting water but they don’t talk about consumption. California almonds consume 1,000,000,000,000 gallons of water per year and agriculture in California represents about 70% of all water consumption. It would take three planets of golf courses to equate to what is being done in the name of packaged almond products.
Hey guess what? You're like the 20th person to say the exact same profound statement. Word for word. We get it.
@@cesarcueto1995 tl:Dr upset (I) made a funny first
@@NekoWinters no idea what that means
Well where the fuck are you supposed to golf then
Just like the man said.. "we waste things".
His grandchildren arent going to get the same planet as he had.
its the duhmerican way
@@ravensfan5998 nope, the Vaal dam that supplies Johannesburg was over 100% after our summer rains.
It's not always like that, but we haven't been decreasing the level every year for 20 years.
@@the_real_hislordship yes you are correct but in the same breath years of water contamination from raw sewage is plaguing one of South Africa's biggest water bodies the Val dam on which about 19 million people depend. Hoover dam supplies water to 25 million people across Western States..... I totally just googled that. 😂🤙
We have become to disconnected from nature to realize our predicament.
Wasting water in desert cities almost makes you wish for a Nuclear Winter
You...not us. And don't worry, we're entering into the next Ice Age right now. Wait a few years for the current weather fluctuations to settle into the global freezing that is gradually starting to become more apparent each year.
@@DUCKDUCKGOISMUCHBETTER its a fallout new vegas reference incydk
@@dante1688 Okay. I'm not into "them newfangled vidya games", post Galaga, Asteroids and Mr Pac-Man, lol. Dagnabbit!! 😂
People swallow **any** garbage told them by *"authoratehhhhs".* Yet I still don't think anyone should be "nuked" for being utterly gullible *LOL*
@@IDIOCRACY-1984 "Respect mah authoritahl!"
“You’re desecrating a war memorial! My brother died at the battle of hoover dam!”
"You're a little b*tch and your brother was too."
@@joebenzz ''oh now it's on!''
Where is this from
@@bonkas6 Fallout: New Vegas
"Hoover Dam is but a place. I will not have it be the gravestone of the Legion - whether quickly, or as you describe, slowly... by attrition"
What’s that quote from?
@@krisinsaigon fallout new Vegas, a video game 🙂🙂
@Blah Blah calm down buddy, were all entitled to our own opinion, if his bothers you so much then leave...
@Blah Blah If it's any consolation, it's one of the more well-written ones. New Vegas has a lot of issues, but being non-deliberately stupid isn't one of them.
@Blah Blah Take your pills grandpa.
Can't wait for the first Battle of Hoover Dam
I understood that reference
@Blah Blah bro we can see you wasting your time commenting on every FNV comment.
@Blah Blah my apologies. Please dont hurt me
@Blah Blah TH-cam is banning accounts that make salty comment like you
@Blah Blah Your username describes you well.
Hearing about Hoover Dam makes your spurs jingle jangle jingle.
Jingle jangle!
There is enough resources on earth for everyone’s need but not for anybody’s greed. ~ Mahatma Gandhi.
Which is why capitalism needs to end
@otheym buy me a ticket too, I hear their healthcare and education system is WAY better than u.s.
@@UlyssesUppington go ahead....I'll enjoy what I've got. Cheers.
@@CBass-mn5dy yeah, you'll enjoy it at the expense of your children and their children. Just like the rest of your pathetic species.
@@powerbeard5653 Wait, you aren’t a human?
Goddamn Legion ruining everything...
The bear will break themselves trying to hold Hoover dam.The bull will be torn crossing it.
My Dixie wrecked
All of this would have never happened if we had just allowed Robert House to control the dam
“patrolling the mojave makes you wish for a nuclear winter.” -Some soldier probably.
the house always wins
stupid NCR
‘Cause in heaven, the house always wins.
Mr.House remind me a lot of Elon Musk, what a douchebag.
Independent > Mr.House > NCR > Legion
"The dam functions like a bank account"
Americans are about as good at conserving water as they are at managing money....
"It makes me wonder if my grandchildren will have the same resources I had"
No they wont, your grandchildren can't even afford to buy a house because of your generation.
Dam not damn
@@jakeg3126 I used google speech-to-text lol
Fixed it
@@deejayimm assumed autocorrect, but had to say something
FACTS
You should have worked harder to earn more "deserving" money...
Socialists...
In the future I would not be surprised if people come to the conclusion that Southern California was a gigantic mistake. Without all the water diverted from Northern California and the Lake Mead reservoir Southern California would never have been possible. In fact if you go back in time 200 years it becomes clear that drought is the normal condition of the SoCal region
Even worse, SoCal would have still have been entirely possible because around that same time period of 200 years prior, there used to exist Lake Cahuilla, which was one of the largest lakes in the entire country, but the lake disappeared when some greedy businessmen bought the entire lake just to empty and drain in our. Given the size of Lake Cauhilla, it would have easily been possible for it to support several million people. Now SoCal has to rely on Lake Mead…
@@smashwagon777 I believe you are referring to Tulare Lake th-cam.com/video/I5uloOJ5m1o/w-d-xo.html
Of course droughts are natural, but they are getting worse, longer, and more frequent. Increased water consumption doesn’t help either.
"When you have a body of water," says John Madden, "and you deplete the water faster than it gets replenished, the water level gets lower. Boom!"
So for 20 years your losing water and now your asking people to stop watering their lawns
no, they've been asking for about 20 years now.
Climate scientists hadn't been flagging this issue for decades...don't play dumb - that's what got us here.
@@thebrowns5337 the fuck yes they have. Its been nonstop warnings since the 70s
@Yarp Yarp that escalated quick damn
@@chadodell4887 if climate scientists were correct about 10% of the claims they make, the world would have ended by now. This issue has zero to do with climate scientists and their garbage models and more to do with poor management. Like we all can gather from a simple look at population data and satellite imagery, there was going to be over consumption. You can't make farms in the desert and have rapid population growth over a period of two decades and not expect changes in water consumption if it was breaking even about 20yrs ago and the few before that.
I just love imagining people at the BBC wondering what the hell all these people are talking about with Mr House, the Legion, nuclear winters, and the NCR.
Ave, true to Caesar.
Elder Elijah's schizophrenia wants to have a word with you
"Monster of the East, huh? Well I've got the Monster of the West in my holster right now. Hope I get to introduce them."
-random Desert Ranger
and fuck Caesar Legion
@Blah Blah okay boomer
@Blah Blah ok boomer
You actually support caesar?
Get out.
Who buys homes….
Who plants farms….
Who builds cities….
In desert climates ???
Folks, this is a serious problem we are facing and if we dont deal with it, terrible conflicts over water will be the result. So please listen when I try to explain what the true problem is and lets work together around improving this dire situation.
Most people will jump to the conclusion that water usage is the problem. While we can improve how we use water, yearly decreases in total amount of water will eventually lead to our efforts in saving water being for nothing. The problem is the decreasing amount of water that is available every year. Western America is drying out on a massive scale because we do not understand how to manage land in a way that improves the water cycle. By water cycle I simply mean how much water is infiltrating into the soil and feeding plants, aquifers and river, and how much is running off creating flood and/or evaporating out of the soil quickly.
The worse our management, the more water will end up running off and evaporating, so this is where we can do something to improve our situation.
We are SO depended on a healthy environment to sustain our cities and civilizations, and we have to start understanding and recognizing this! So lets stop fighting and lets unity around this task instead.
People who live along a very significant river basin?
The city is sustainable, it's the farm land non desert flora that is the problem. Other regions are much better suited for it.
A desert next to the pacific ocean though.
@@mnomadvfx ok babe….that’s handy….
water the lawns, and the farms with sea water
Only in America would people move to a desert and complain about lack of water.🙄
That's not even the problem. Pull of Google maps and look at all the farm land in the desert. That uses up 74% of the water that goes to Phoenix
How many Top TIer countries have deserts like the US though. Very hard to compare even to AU.
@@krismine99 Exactly, the efficiency of water use in traditional agriculture is simply not up to spec with the demand.
It was OK when demand was lower, but today it's simply not good enough.
We need to start thinking of more efficient ways to farm, or more aggressively use ones already invented that farmers are too lazy to implement.
Clearly you have no idea what is going on. Most places across the west have been consumed with uncharacteristically dry conditions for the past 10 years, depleting our water supply. In the past two years many locations have received less than a 3rd of normal precipitation totals. Drought is common in the west but drought to these extremes is uncalled for and the result of climate change.
@@marcoverde9790 Not true. You are using to much water.
The Ranger Vets are on their way from Baja. Never seen one before. But I've heard they chew nails and spit napalm.
You heard wrong their pussy's!
As a desert dweller my self. Why are we growing crops in Arizona ????? Like come on… currently living in the drout… Las Vegas
It should be home and community gardens growing drought resistant crops.
Money
@ユジン one day Alaska will become the most important state when all that snow and ice and shit melts the natural resources within will be unlocked and this is pretty important when you remember Alaska is much bigger then Texas land wise
@ユジン
Yep, but for some reason in California big valley [the one that the size of England], that they are covering all the good farm land with housing tracks, pushing farmers up the side of the coastal mountain range and foothills. Probably adding to the need to grow crops elsewhere.
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 I hope it doesn't melt. The levels of methane trapped in the soil up there and in Siberia could accelerate global warming to a point where we have temperate rainforests in the Arctic circle.
What will we all learn from this??? absolutely nothing... we’re all doomed.
They're still allowing homes to use flood irrigation to water their front and backyards. How ridiculous is that
Just your country.
@@cesarcueto1995 Not as ridiculous as SoCal building and developing as fast as they can. And not as ridiculous as California adding over 1,200 new vineyards in the past 20 years. And not as ridiculous as the SF Bay area refusing to fix sewage leaks requiring the release of tons of water in order to flush the crap out of their bay.
@@mochimaw5802 haha you think what happens in the us won't affect other countries ?
@@cavemancavemanog it's not a competition
Why are we not panicking yet? Oh I forgot- it takes awhile to accept reality.
People ignore reality until it’s past the point of being able to do anything to change it. Then they will complain about how it isn’t their fault.
Same reason why the public didn't panic when CO2 levels rose from 280ppm in 1950s to 320ppm in 1980s to 400ppm in 2010. People refused to look disaster in the eye and accept that it is there, until it is too late to do anything. Also capitalism is unable to solve long term problems. It is very short sighted.
They will only panic about two days in to not having anything to eat and nothing to drink. Ohh wait, they'll panic when their grass dries up first, then they'll worry about food and water.
It’s like South Park where they don’t panic until it’s actually happening “we didn’t listen”
I’m sure some are panicking, yet can’t do anything to make an impact themselves. I hope the people conserve, and I hope industry does too and doesn’t undercut the people’s efforts.
You built massive cities in the desert, you had to expect issues with water eventually.
And all that coastline, not a single desalination plant.
@@The411 Educate yourself. There are desal plants on the California coast, but that is only a supplemental resource not a primary one. That demands for water in the southwest are far greater then can be met with desalination plants. Those plants are also very expensive.
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 expensive? dont drink water for 2 days and then let me sell you a glass of water. not having enough water for everyone is way more expensive.
@@guyincognito210 Not having enough water for everyone is what's coming and soon. The SW is likely to get worse first as it already is. Fires will increase along with more extreme heat waves. The Rio Grande in New Mexico is drying out for miles long stretches even now.
You think there's problems now just wait until Lanius gets there
He will do what Joshua couldn’t. And with that the west will be tamed.
Lanius, the butcher, monster, terro.... Okay I'll stop myself, it's too cool
just max out your speech
I live in Northern California, the drought is bad, and it's getting worse.
Drove by Whiskeytown today and it looked good, then drove by New Melones this evening and wow - super low!
@@Andy-vt7sl There is a town called "Whiskytown" in California?
@@ChuckNorris-wx6xh whiskeytown lake - west of Redding
What? A drought in a dry arid environment?
Who'd a thunk it!!
Still, all those data centres are quite thirsty when they're busy aren't they....
what is the cost of your water bill every month.???
Almond farms in California use obscene amounts of water...in alor of cases the mismanagement of resources is crazy
@@L8Pl Almond farmers are Republicans, idiot.
@@L8Pl republicans, and liberals.
Liberals are centrists.
In case I misunderstood your comment, I'm sorry
Have a nice day :)
@@maggiejetson7904 yeah but all the people who drink almond milk and all that other shit are liberals
@@ep5019 You idiot, that's like saying people who eat ice cream and cereals are all conservatives. Those almonds are export all over the world for money, not even eaten here. You want conservative bashing? They grow even more alfalfa to feed dairy cows and the dairy farmers are all over producing to a point they are dumping milk they cannot sell. Talking about "all that other shit" that conservatives do.
Almonds? Take a gander at the RICE PADDIES.
Damned NCR, doesn't it understand the complications this will have on agriculture?!
These fallout new vegas comments are funny as hell
you know you are in the most capitalist country in the world when the guy has to explain the flow of water in and out of the lake using money analogy...that's just sad
Sad? Capitalism made America rich, why is it sad?
@@dylanhoward7668 Which americans were made rich?
@@tyrabjurman3584 the vast majority.
@@dylanhoward7668 not those living on the street thought they may not agree with you
@@stephenhill8790 I said "the vast majority" not "everyone". Btw, the homelessness rate in America is not high compared to most other countries, specially in Europe.
Because people need golf courses in the desert.
80% of water use in California is agricultural. Population increase plus record years for products like almonds and avocado are much more of an impact
@@coastersandculture2125 yeah. Get farms out of the desert too.
We need more vineyards in Ca. And more homes in SoCal.
Hoover Dam is Caesar's Legion Territory.
Breaking news: Diverting a river to flow 200 miles so people living in a literal desert can have green lawns causes water shortages.
Hmmm it appears the floor is made of floor.
One google map search shows the problem with golf courses in the fricken desert
Arizona is the number 3 producer of vegetables as a state. The location of that farmland is actually a bigger problem than the golf courses.
Well to be fair the system works when the entire region isn’t consumed with drought. For 2 years western locations have gotten less than a 3rd of normal precipitation. That’s nothing short of devastation
@@krismine99 Gardening is evolving thanks to technology, Singapore is speed throttling the garden tech with vertical gardens. Big changes are coming thanks to Singapore. Golf courses will never change, i stay a 1 mile walk from the oldest golf courses in the entire world, they'll never change, farming/gardening will. Singapore tech is coming
@@FunnyCallsPrank 74% of their water goes to farming. Pull up google maps of Arizona and compare the land usage of the two. Golf courses are vastly smaller and vertical farming likely won't reduce the need for the land or water drastically enough to even put them on the same playing field. We also know the negative effects and wastefulness of desert farming because the soviets did it first. Look up the Aral Sea and you'll find that desert farming is so inefficient that they nearly drained one of the worlds largest inland bodies of water for crops and failed drastically.
@@krismine99 As water prices increase so will farming technology, farmers are engineers at their core, they've just been lazy due to no increase hassle to their laziness, increases in water bills will force them to become civil engineers again to save money. Everyone will look to Singapore vertical garden tech really soon, worlds gonna look the movie inception, i have a softspot for farmers, golfers however i have no remorse for
No need to worry, I've been there in the year 2281 during the 2nd battle of Hoover Dam and the Lake is still full.
Must have been that battle that destroyed the dam, go take a peek at it in 2282. 😉
It’s pretty simple really. Someone is going around with buckets and stealing the water. That makes me so angry.
Yup, the madman won’t stop until he completely empties the lake, truly the evil genius of our generation.
Should we consider issuing a bounty?
Mr House has a bunker around here with an army of robots
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Massive water fountains, fake canals in casinos and swimming pools everywhere... what could go wrong?
To be fair Las Vegas gets the smallest percentage of water. The vast majority of it goes to LA for crops and phoenix for the same thing.
@@darthtripedacus1 Truth gets fewer likes
About 25 years ago here in UK I used to windsurf on local reservoirs near London. They got so low they almost became unusable. Local news and government spoke about building giant pipes from hundreds of miles north to transport water. This was of course because of ‘global warming’ which at the time said to only become worse. No pipes were built and now the local reservoirs are full. Weather patterns are cyclical, so long as not too much water is irrigated the problem may eventually solve itself.
Don't be concerned for earth it knows how to heal once humans are gone
True - we aren't destroying mother nature. We are only destroying our planet's ability to sustain our species. The dinosaurs reigned for millions of years. This place won't shed a tear after we're gone.
Didn’t someone already say this
Don't worry, humanity and the human psyche will heal, once the Libtarded Malthusians are gone. FIFY!
Cant wait to explore the abandoned las vegas. Epic!
just make sure you do it with a big iron on your hip.
"Ave, true to Caesar."
but, but house always wins
Building a metropolis like Las Vegas in the desert always was a bad idea. People have to leave
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Tell that to the corporations and the mob who wanted that profit so bad.
This wasn’t in the New Vegas ending
Those damn legionnaires are up to something, I can feel it
Don’t worry - Earth will be here long after humans will be gone.
Like Carlin said, the planet is fine. The people are F'd...
@@johnqpublic9074 Or Slavoj Zizek ;)
Humanity's evolutionary descendants will be around long after the Earth is gone.
@@KopperNeoman No.. we won’t become a proper spacefaring civilisation - we will die out before that (probability says due to a variety of issues which may hit us without any notice).. in that case it won’t be our remnants who will probably survive.. they say insects or birds or molecular sea / land creatures.. takes too much to make us survive.. we’re good when there aren’t many sudden changes. When there are - we suck really..
Humans as a race just don't get along well enough to fix our problems. Funny how people can be against each other when we're all in the same shit
California: *gives nestle free unlimited use of its water*
Also California: where did all of our water go??
Meanwhile in my hometown in a tropical island, it rains almost for 24 hours non stop right now
If only it was possible to create a machine that could equally distribute rain to the planet because in Ireland we get too much rain and deserts don't get enough rain
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 it is called a pump, you just need to somehow find the energy to do it. However there's no free energy.
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 uhhhh yeah there is, the military has been using this technology to manipulate the weather since the 1950s, a little something called H.A.A.R.P otherwise known as high frequency active auroral research program, how the hell is it in america the west coast suffering a drought while the entire east coast is flooded with rain, THAT is not normal, that is known as GEO engineering....
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 Becareful what you wish for. if the rain is distributed equally, theres no such thing as climate.
Equality doesnt mean all people gonna be happy, sometimes it can lead to destruction.
(Also, no weather and sea current. europe will be winter all year long.)
I like how the guy at the end wonders if his grandchildren will have the same amount of water. If the water dropped from 95% to 35% after 22 years, even he won't have the same amount of water in 12 more years.
How about that millions of people are living where they really have no business living - at least not in the quality of life and extravagance that we see them in today.
They'll have to move out. The unlucky ones will be climate refugees.
Folks, this is a serious problem we are facing and if we dont deal with it, terrible conflicts over water will be the result. So please listen when I try to explain what the true problem is and lets work together around improving this dire situation.
Most people will jump to the conclusion that water usage is the problem. While we can improve how we use water, yearly decreases in total amount of water will eventually lead to our efforts in saving water being for nothing. The problem is the decreasing amount of water that is available every year. Western America is drying out on a massive scale because we do not understand how to manage land in a way that improves the water cycle. By water cycle I simply mean how much water is infiltrating into the soil and feeding plants, aquifers and river, and how much is running off creating flood and/or evaporating out of the soil quickly.
The worse our management, the more water will end up running off and evaporating, so this is where we can do something to improve our situation.
We are SO depended on a healthy environment to sustain our cities and civilizations, and we have to start understanding and recognizing this! So lets stop fighting and lets unity around this task instead.
If they can’t find water then absolutely I would suggest they go somewhere else. Just as if you can’t find winter clothing you have no business living in the Artic. Clearly it is not an environment capable of sustaining life - or at least not that much of it.
That's actually not the case. Before you make an argument, look at where most of the water consumption goes. Plants take up more than people, hence the new policies that only allow desert flora.
Short answer: desert, water droughts, thirsty ‘muricans, farmland, golf courses, and Vegas casinos
Honestly everyone likes to point at Vegas but they are a drop in the bucket compared to everyone else. They've been in the desert since the 40s, they aren't new to the situation and are well aware of the costs of water. The Mirage with the big fountain? Yeah that water is recycled. It's filtered just like a swimming pool and the water is pumped around and around. That water fountain takes less than 500 gallons a day from the water lines, which is the national average water consumption for 5 adults. The average American uses 91 gallons of water a day. Mostly in the form of showers. So if you wanna save water, gotta let that BO fly and cover it up with perfume like the French do
Keeping the water isn't the hard part.
It's letting go.
Dead money
Sadly many people couldn't care less about wasting resources.
They will care once its late
The hypocritical attitude complaining about climate change whilst not looking at their own consumption. V8 cars to do 10 mile trips, over the top energy consumption, an overpopulation with more and more parents banging out kids. They just can’t see they’re destroying their kids future.
It's water man unlimited
They crossed the ranger with the big iron on his hip
What a slip to make.
Reject BBC embrace NCR.
We won’t go quietly, the legion can count on that.
Hold your tongue, wastrel.
A time will come when an ox head will be more valuable than a gold bar
Golf Courses, Data Centers, private pools, excessive agriculture combined with urban sprawl in a dry environment. Gee who'd a thunk it.
Apparently, no one. 🙁
Maybe it has something to do with feeding one of the worlds most densely populated cities 3 hours away in the middle of the desert..
Yeah um not sure if most people know this but homes and apartments use like 12% of all the water being used each day. Take a guess who uses the other 88%. Basically individuals are being tricked into thinking they are the issue....but it is really just industry inefficiency.
C'mon let's show those NCR degenerates what we can do! FOR THE LEGION!
FOR THE NEW CALIFORNIA REPUBLIC
Ave, true to Caesar!
*pumps water into the desert too turn it into farm land for oranges* * no more water* "IT mUsT BE cLImaTe cHaNGe"
Fallout New Vegas has ruined the Hoover dam for me because every time I see it
all I can think about is Fallout New Vegas
the game's depiction of hoover dam is pretty correct too.
0:09 That landscape may scream problems to her, but her haircut scream get me your manager to me.
If farming in the desert seemed a bad idea. Not sure ask a 5 year old and will tell you the answer right away. But no, how about doing it for a few decades with heavy irrigation and you'll find out when shit hits the fan.
Even in The Netherlands we are dealing with fresh water shortages (not to this extended). Only this year we seem to have recovered at least our ground water levels. But nature itself will take a few more years to recover from the drought we've had in the last few years. The fact that even we (a low river delta land) are having fresh water issues every now and then, just shows what a huge problem this will be for the US. I guess we are really consuming too much of our planet.
Our planet is a closed system for the most part. We can’t consume water, it doesn’t vanish, but it can be used on stupid shit making shortages in areas frequent.
@@LucasCarter2 making clean water into unusable waste is for me equal to consuming it ;) Otherwise the word consuming can never be used for anything, since atoms don't suddenly disappear for good ;)
Probably Caesar and his legion doing their thing
Everyone knows that xerxes armies drink the rivers dry.
@@DevinSheaProductions xerxes?
Cut LA off from the water supply and this problem will be fixed in a day.
We never need LA because Marxist Democrats rule crime-ridden LA that leads to destruction itself.
RIP NCR
Someone left the sink running
I was expecting just one Fallout NV reference at least.
I am not dissapointed
TBH. Earth has survived 4+ billion years. It doesn't need us. So, to say "earth is in danger" is being selfishly hypocritical.
We better own up to our mistakes & act responsibly for a better future or face the consequences both of which will impact our children.
Yes, Earth did just fine until we humans came along! But now Earth is in danger because of our mismanagement of nature. We have enough technical knowledge to destroy the planet, but not enough to save it. And never mind your children, it's happening right here and right now!
@@funquay2219 I think you understood 50% of what I said.
@@amirtambe2957 I think we are both saying the same thing really, just in different ways!
Sanctimonious environmentalists are going to seethe from whatever afterlife there is as humans save the Earth from the dying sun.
It's a rock. It isn't alive. The "environment" only matters insofar as it can sustain human life.
“Global warming is going to kill us all”
“Calm down dear it's a desert I'm not sure what people expected?”
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But mommy well that lack of water Force Millions of people from their homes to move into new areas throughout the country and drain our resources as well Because they have no other place to go
Listen, there has always been available water. But climate change changed that. Whether the area was a desert does not matter. What matters is, there is less water flowing in because there is lesser rain.
I don't think things will change until we saw the Lake Mead monster resurface
Couldn’t be the newly constructed tub drain that insures we drain every drop!! Ugh
Build a city in the desert: Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
I mean I can see why they wanted to build a city in the Desert land would be sand cheap and yes that's a pun and when you think of how much land the US has that's Desert that's a pretty big chunk
The fun part is that nobody talk about preservation.
Or how capitalism has caused this
All the experts in the comments saying “gOlF cOuRsEs” have no idea what is going on. The western United States have been consumed in a drought for the past decade, and over the past 2 years have received about a 3rd of normal precipitation in most areas. This combined with record heat seemingly daily across the region has depleted our water supply.
yeah, everyone knows we are in a drought. I think the point is during a harsh drought, we shouldn’t be using what little water we do have for luxury things like golf courses.
we only drink about 1/2 gallon a day yet we use about 100 gallons a day. its on everyone to limit their water consumption. water is vital yet not an unlimited resource.
As if we own the water. The Earth and Mother Nature will decide when we get water.
Generate power from an alternate source like solar and plug the dam. And get rid of lawns and go to desert landscaping. Problem solved.
Them almonds won't water themselves.
Better desalination tech could fix the world's water problems, but for now, we need to conserve what we got
"Desalination"? No way. We've spent those billions on building a fast aircraft carrier so we can play more war games. We've got priorities, you know.
If we nuke the ocean it will make the water drinkable ? 🤔👍
The USA needs to use permaculture to regreenify its desertifying regions. Look at zaytuna farm Australia, greening the desert program in Jordan. Where there have been wildfires they need to dig swales on contour... it could be a spades with it would be 3m wide. This prevents soil erosion and holds water after rains so it permeates into the ground, wetter ground means more moisture means less risk of wildfire, in gulleys and washes they need to put loose rocks in a berm/ dam formation, this prevents soil erosion and provides a shady area for the water to permeate down into the ground which means the plant biodiversity will increase. This is a self regenerating system for water and biodiversity providing if we can maintain the swales and berms. It will take 15 years to see major changes and for it to be self sustaining but it is possible. In Africa they are applying this in a 15km band across the south if the Sahara desert to halt the desertification process and reverse it. China's loss plateau has transformed over a million hectares for $500m turning desert into lush green agricultural land. In Saudi Arabia the al abayadi..... what was rock is now Savannah. Zaytuna farm was desert cow ranch...... now it grow everything from mangos, bamboo, apples fruit, veg, nut trees and rainfall takes a year for water to reach the river from the hilltop, new springs have formed and they are now introducing chinampas (inca/Aztec floating wicking agricultural rafts) but the ranch next door is desert. India are now beginning to use it to rejuvenate their water sources. Ethiopia implemented it on a national scale and got themselves out of a food shortage starvation crisis.
The Ceasar has marked you for death and the legion obeys. Ready yourself for battle.
Building cities in deserts hmm what could go wrong.
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The platinum chip is the answer.
So giant lawns, epic golf courses, endless pools and fountains werent a good idea in the desert? Weird
Moreso the farms. The other things are definitely a thing, but like 70% of the water is farm irrigation.
California needs to admit that they mismanaged all our water. That’s why.
Take it from an Australian the water always comes back eventually. You just can't waste a drop.
surprise surprise, they waste wayyy too much water... desert climates are not for: farming, green lawns, massive golf courses, large cities... it's simply unsustainable unless you decide to permanently turn a wet climate dry just to sustain what has been built. purifying and recycling the water is also a solution, but it's terribly managed atm
It’s no surprise. Many have been warning about this. The people who live out west just don’t listen.
When did "h" become a vowel?
Welp, Helios One will need to come in clutch now.
Because its HISTORICALLY low and not RECORD BREAKING LOW...