"The rise of auditing" and downfall of security company Mitie. Filming has always been an "everyday activity", just like the "everyday activities" of police and security who employ uneducated gormless egotistical plonkers. Apparently the pair of not so mighty half men at "Mitie" has learned the hard way about copyright, public access, public photography, citizen journalists / TH-camrs and the law, etc. Then the two suited up jobsworths who acted like backyard comedians with stage-fright realised they were up against a far superior opponent, a gentleman who was articulate, knowledgeable, and well versed in the law. Embarrassed, nonsensical and defeated, the pair of dimwits immediately began backpedalling off to do the walk of shame. AB, your "My Photograph" video is an absolutely brilliant piece of work. Sir Auditing Britain, your viewers and subscribers have awarded you a knighthood for your chivalry and outstanding community service.
I worked for mitie for a few months, like all big companies they are full of deadwood pompous management. I would bet good money these two have completed this training and skimmed through without taking even the basic information on board. Well done AB
Mitie basically supply different services and contractor personnel to corporate clients. Services such as security guarding, facilities management, catering, cleaning, CCTV control rooms, gardening, post rooms. I think I've covered most of them, might be a couple I've missed out. I worked for Mitie myself for a little while, well over 10 years ago now. They're nothing special. Sh*t*e Mitie was the nickname us frontline staff and contractors had for them.
Yeah, I'm proud to get knocked back by Mitie due to a slight blemish on my application form for a maintenance/caretaker job looking after a government funded fish research project. They only seem to employ people without any such blemishes. I think I dodged a bullet.
Police have no 1st hand knowledge of security services, I once had the job of training our police service in what security services were all about be it static guards, mobile patrols, armed payroll escort and crowd control.
Even worse than a Copper cuz theres less accountability in the Private Sector. Wouldn't be surprised if he was a SACKED Copper and pulled some dodgy strings to get a Private Sector job
Yes , fatso with the comb-over almost certainly is an ex- copper. Initially trying to flex ,hoping for compliance, a big fail there. What a plonker , making a total idiot of himself on social media.
That company putting that info about Auditing on their website has just opened a can of hurt for them...all Auditors in the UK will now go and audit them, and rightly so! Great job as usual AB!
I will audit them in Scotland for sure just changed my channel into an audit channel now will take my lead from AB, Charlie V, and Audit Yorkshire, and others.
Pity that their head of security for Mitie skipped reading their own internal materials on auditing, since he fell for just about everything mentioned in the pamphlet. They should use your video to train the rest about how to NOT handle someone with a camera.
Mate, grammatically the first part of your sentence does not make a lot of sense. You could write, "Mitie have shot themselves" or "Mitie has shot itself". Thank you for correcting the spelling.
Absolute quality as normal AB. How rude of them to use your video images without permission to highlight their own agenda against the auditing community! Civil claim AB?🤔👍👑
The security manager doesn't understand implied rights of access! Shocking how these guy are trained. They are basically bouncers - 'what you doing here? Ya names not down, you ain't coming in' attitude. The guy said "turn your camera off, point it over there, take your mask down and tell me your name" ... Who the hell does he think he is ordering someone about like that when they aren't even standing on their property ?! All you gotta do is let them talk and within a couple of minutes they show themselves up to be low IQ people that have very little common sense. And these two were proper fannies.
Someone is saying the security manager was once a copper. He gave that away when AB put his foot on the fence and the manager said "your foots on our fence that's our property" . You get well trained in the police to be that petty. Also said you are threatening and intimidating. They have to try and escalate it. These guys are an embarrassment.
Yes for sure below average IQ goons , they just need to open their mouths and you can see it. The more stupid people the more obvious it gets to everyone except to themselves.
don't know for certain regarding English law, but in Scotland whatever side the posts are on are that sidses responsibility ... so from what I see it looks council/publicl property
@@shipahoy1001 They wouldn't know what Bad Side means. But it's the first thing I noticed and was just going through the comments to see if other had noticed.
Big respect AB, I love that you went to this location after they stole our work. As we already know I have made and are continuing to make enquiries regarding this. Big Up AB
So I'm in Turkey having brand new teeth, a brand new smile and I'm in a bit of pain but I'm using my new smile laughing at your audit AB. Miles away watching my favourite auditor. Funny guy. Stay well my friend.
You need to bill them AB. And you are free to set whatever price you feel is reasonable at the top end of the market rate. They have already used it without permission so simply taking it down will not suffice. They need to pay you.
His face though "The head of all things" lol just priceless when his face drops over the fact they haven't asked for permission 🤣 😂 😅 I had reply that part 6 times and it still makes me laugh well done A.B
I would have thought that after publicising a document for the world to see, about how to be aware of and how to handle auditors, they would have been prepared for a visit and not sent two childish, stupid clowns out to deal with you. They're right about auditors being a problem but only for the companies/people that keep breaking the law and abusing peoples rights, like they did with two pictures.
This was good, my husband pointed this channel out. Regular folk are sick and tired of being told what they can`t do until we fight back and realize that people still have freedoms.
That is the former Met chorus girl Commander Ian Carter or as I called him during his vetting, PC Actually. This is the Met Cretin that claimed there was no added threat of terrorism to the residents of the dozen or so council flats equipped with surface to air missiles during the 2012 Olympics. The anti-Terrorism missile implacements were less of a target than a Boots the Chemist, according to that terrorism genius. The year after soldier Lee Rigby was beheaded just outside one of those very locations.
Another beauty. "Section 33 of the criminal (right)?? does not apply here, it applies to places like a Tescos car park or something like that, it doesn't apply to a private business." Uhhhmmm I think we can all agree that Tescos is a private business. This guy really has no idea does he. Gold , absolute gold.
Those two are 24kt TH-cam Gold. Specialising in Audit Prevention by attracting all the auditors across the U.K to audit them. Using A.B and Marti's photos is creating a perfect storm. Those two security heads are trained to escalate word perfect.
No need to fat shame anyone in any profession. They may be stupid, but judging based off of their appearance, you're a bit of a bellend that needs to go out and buy a few manners.
head of security just invited every auditor in the uk 2 visit their car park's everywhere they have an office. not the sharpest tool in the box is he. he really was clueless.
Sharpest tool in the box?? E looks like a blunt chisel. Not a very clever chap is he strutting his stuff in front of the camera. Well he gave a performance for for us via a.b. and u tube. Thank u mr mittie. Nice building shame about the fence. Needs securing as it's not to secure is it. What impressions does that say to visitors. An if its private as you say why is there a reception and receptionist and nice airy place for visitors to be made welcome. Mr mittie you are predudist if you are not going to let a.b. in as a member of the public with a valid complaint about the company..
This head of security is so ill informed that he has to be an ex-cop. You can tell MITIE are raking it in from bloated government contracts at the expense of the taxpayer if their office is in the shard.
I TUPE’d into them a few years ago, spent 5 years there on the Technical Facilities side I then was cast adrift when the contract ended. They had a terrible reputation within their staff, I had a non working supervisor in charge of 2 of us. We couldn’t get help on the contract to do any work, there’s no money in the contract we were told, but enough money to employ someone to lord it over us. When we fell at behind with breakdowns and service works they got another supervisor to try to gee us along, we were managed to death by useless ex-engineers promoted out of harms way. When I was there, they carried out an internal questionnaire about the staff perception of Mitie and had a big shock. They were slagged off over and over from engineers who hated being there. They were listed in the top ten worst companies in the UK, it was in a national newspaper ( the Sun I think ). This knob is typical of their petty ways, this is our land, our buildings, get your foot off our fence etc. When you point out they’ve “stolen” your image they couldn’t give a shit about “your” ownership of your property, it only works one way with them, “can you prove it” the cheeky bastard.
@@xtrubblex86 If it is "internal training" why is it on their public website? Why is it posted on the internet rather than the company's intranet. Mitie is a security company that makes money by offering security services and training for a profit.
@@Ohm_mega if the document is for training and is not for commercial purposes, they can use someone’s image as an example to others. Read up on fair use
@@rachelmcdonald410 If the document was for internal use only why was it put on the *internet* instead of the company *intranet* Fair use also requires that the user acknowledge the source or comment on the reason for the image or footage used. While producing an article about Roman roads in Britain I used a copyrighted image of a Roman road, listed the source, and commented on the nature of the road. What comment did the "training" article make about either of the "auditors" or the way they carry out their "audits"? What lessons do the "trainers" draw from the images used, or are they using the images as part of a glossy brochure advertising their "training courses"?
16:58 For a security guy who seems to have heard about s33, he gets it totally wrong. s33 doesn't apply anywhere as it only applies to groups in a uniform. It's pure gaslighting by auditors. He thinks it only applies to supermarkets etc. That means he's had crap legal advice. What an embarrassment for a security company.
S33 is a description of public places for the wearing of paramilitary uniforms, you’re right about that bit. BUT it is STILL a description of a public place. It’s probably our only such description in law.
@@MrAndrewFarrow Public place appears with its definition in a number of pieces of legislation, such as section 1(4) of the Prevention of Crime Act 1953. Enough that it's a common legal term. There is also case law that further defines it, Knox v Anderton where a corridor in a block of flats was defined as a public place as it was used regularly as a short cut and that meant a person arrested there with a knife got found guilty.
Exactly. I'm surprised AB keeps quoting that Act given that it's nothing to do with public access. It just amended earlier legislation to make it an offense to wear political uniforms on privately owned land that is accessible to the public as well as publicly owned land.
I have a mate who does a lot of sub contracting work supplying security guards for Mitie Security and they are a nightmare to get money out off. Just about put him out the game a few times.
LOL their "Rise of Auditors" document ends by saying auditing is a legal activity and the focus should be to de escalate and disengage with them. the "head of security" of Mitie the people who published your copyrighted material ESCALATED and engaged with you by approaching you when you were not even on their property and without even checking with his own reception started telling you what to do and started making an issue of you calling to them to tell them about their breaking of the copyright law. then having offered to assist he moved to the "nothing to do with me" mode.
Total bolx.. A.B was at a totally separate division of the company. I thought the dude with the tie was fairly helpful. He told him where to contact to have his issue looked at by those who construct the website and look after its legalities. I think A.B kept mishearing him... Not the best here from A.B.
@@robotsonmars1989 people are free to walk into any publically accessible office. AB did that. He was asked to return. BEFORE he returned hevwas approached by someone who did not identify. That person gave him a makey uppy line about him trespassing but never trespassed him. He said the property was private and AB had been on it. It was explained that AB had indeed been on it and had been asked to return there. The hearsay about the person who ASKED HIM TO RETURN being frightned of him was just that... Hearsay. The man who later identified as "head of security" then offered to help. This was a copyright issue and nothing to do with him but he persisted. He was then shown tbe copyright issue oddly in a publication on security about which the head of security was ignorant! He then confirmed what he was already told... It was nothing to do with him and in spite of offering to help he fobbed it off. He could easily call head office and state they have a copyright complaint but all he really wanted to do it seems was get rid of someone from his workplace.
@@bartconnolly6104 Nope ..Not free to walk in.It had a door entry system .He was buzzed in. He's the head of security of a totally different division and told A.B where to direct his enquiry to get onto the correct course if he wants to pursue a copyright claim. Absolutely no point in adding another layer to it.. As far as the woman being distressed I'm guessing she contacted security after getting A.B out of the building. If she did feel that way the inviite back was just a rouse to get him out. He was never getting back in my opinion.
@@johnnybird7593 Lol I don't work for Mitie but I do have many Years in the services and 30+ years in Security in various positions. Yes I do see a lot of poor interactions on these types of videos but in all honesty this one was ok. If they did indeed want AB out of the building they got him out of there quite easily and with little hassle. They still gave him all the info he required to pursue his copyright grievance via the appropriate avenue.. That particular site had no input or influence on the construction of Mities website. AB may have had a valid argument but he was having it with the wrong people.
digital photos have meta data you can see in the "properties" tab when you mouse over, it will have the date it was taken, any modifications and it might even have your name if you do batches of photos, but if YOU took that photo YOU have copyright regardless, it would be incredibly difficult to fake the meta data on a photo - especially on your own computer and especially on a phone. you have an appointment though...
A company that publishes information about auditors and how you approach auditors completely fails in how to approach an auditor, you couldn't make it up, 🤦🏻♂, well done AB with another great audit
It takes 11 pages of misinformation before the last paragraph of the Mitie "Auditing" security propaganda states the activity is legal. Exceptional work Mitie !
MITIE are an appalling organisation with their never ending outsourcing activity . These two plonkers are so inept . It is incredible that they acted in such a petty and ineffective way .
What a terrible look for a company purporting to know how to deal with auditors. I don't believe the receptionist was upset by you, I think he got his knickers in a knot because the notorious AB came in, made an inquiry, sat calmly waiting for a response and then left and he missed it all and was now playing catch up. He probably realised too late that you had been there, came out and questioned the receptionist and made her feel like she had made a mistake. He really came across as someone thinking he had screwed up and needed to get back in front of things. He did not want to have to tell his boss Auditing Britain paid them a visit and no one, including the head of security, noticed. From now on his title will be the dickhead of security.
@@AuditingBritain , Ian Carter stated at least twice that he was the head of security, and yet i did not see him actually prove that by lifting up his identity card which appeared to be attached to his belt. I could see the wheels turning and the smile disappear from his face when he suddenly realised that the video could end up being shown in a civil hearing to determine intellectual property or misuse of the photographs.
Aaaah, so Leonardo da Vinci never owned the mona lisa because he wasnt in it..... Holy shit, the stuff a low level security guard knows about owning a picture is amazing. Top notch....
That was hilarious. The "Head of Security" came up with more stories than the brothers Grimm! You legitimately have a good claim on their using your copyrighted material. I'd certainly chance it or, at least, talk to a legal expert about it. It would be hilarious to read about you getting compensation from them for using your picture in their anti-auditing training!
How on earth have those 2 clowns got that job when they know nothing about the law its called copyright law. Sue them and make them take it down even if its your photo you put up on the internet
Oh dear, AB you would have thought that a company of their size with their knowledge of the subject matter that document is about, namely Auditing and Auditors would have not been so dumb as to steal your intellectual property. Go for them my friend, they do not have a leg to stand on, that is copyright theft slam dunk.
😂😂😂 best epic fail ever. A company that claims to be able to teach how to deal with Auditors. What an absolute Muppet that head of security was. If I was looking for a company to help teach that I wouldn't go to them after watching the head of security made himself look like a total fool
Just FYI Photographs are protected under the law of Copyright as it has been included as an artistic work. ... Ordinarily, the author is the first owner of the copyright in a work created by him. In case of a photograph, the photographer will be the first owner unless there is an agreement to the contrary Photographs are protected by copyright just like any other piece of creative work, and is protected in UK law by the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 and some EU directives that came into force in 1989, and under these acts they come under the classification 'Artistic Work'
Like many things, they are exceptions. Fair use being one of them. The use of copywritten images in things like training and education can easily fall within fair use. If the image is used for illustrative purposes and not for commercial gain, it might come under fair use. They should have at least credited the image though.
@@Stuart_George While you are completely correct in what you've said, their website is one big advertising platform and as such this image is being used for commercial gain. There is only one description for what they have done, copyright theft, a criminal offence.
Love the response they gave you. How do you know it’s your photo? The response is ,you know it is not yours Mr Mitie. AB owns the copyright on that image and they should know they have no right to lift it off the Internet and use it.
"You would make a good politician" Thank you AB, that's exactly what I was thinking since the beginning of your encounter with the Minister of Defense there.
Well they certainly don't practice what they preach, in one video you have completely undermined their whole purpose, great audit, it was the gift that kept on giving 🤣
That was brilliant AB. I could hear their chins hit the floor here when you broke the news to them that the company had used your photo. What a total disgrace from Mitie. Their publicity team certainly need a good talking to.
They are laughing about using your photo in a company brochure without your permission ?? It's actually quite serious breach of copyright , and certainly no laughing matter ! I would sue , for sure ! They don't have a leg to stand on !
They might. Fair use for training purposes. They were not using it for commercial gain, just education and training. Only suggesting they might, it's not as cut and dried as you may think.
@carlton lambert If they are not selling the training, or selling the document itself, then it is not for commercial gain. If your argument was valid, colleges would not be able to use copywritten material under the exemptions because the college is ultimately a commercial enterprise.
This is what happens when you employ and ex cop or ex prison Officer the fact that they are supposed to train people on how to deal with auditors then fail so miserabley is testimonial to there company.
You just knew this was not going to end well when he walks up to a guy with a camera, and proceeds to say he does not want to be filmed! He comes across all aggressive, asking what you want, and when you tell him he has absolutely no clue how to help you, or interest in doing do. And it looks like they have taken that file down from their website too!
What this looks like is you were dealing with two ex coppers who will never accept being in the wrong no matter what personally I would instruct solicitors to. claim damages for un authorised use of your material
"The rise of auditing" and downfall of security company Mitie.
Filming has always been an "everyday activity", just like the "everyday activities" of police and security who employ uneducated gormless egotistical plonkers.
Apparently the pair of not so mighty half men at "Mitie" has learned the hard way about copyright, public access, public photography, citizen journalists / TH-camrs and the law, etc.
Then the two suited up jobsworths who acted like backyard comedians with stage-fright realised they were up against a far superior opponent, a gentleman who was articulate, knowledgeable, and well versed in the law. Embarrassed, nonsensical and defeated, the pair of dimwits immediately began backpedalling off to do the walk of shame.
AB, your "My Photograph" video is an absolutely brilliant piece of work.
Sir Auditing Britain, your viewers and subscribers have awarded you a knighthood for your chivalry and outstanding community service.
Brilliantly said!
AB's the king of auditors in my humble opinion. Well said bro.👍
Amen
@@spense5905 check out bay area transparency
@@jimmybhoy6438 yep he's very good along with long Island audit and a cpl of other but they are state side. AB is all the UKs 🇬🇧
I worked for mitie for a few months, like all big companies they are full of deadwood pompous management. I would bet good money these two have completed this training and skimmed through without taking even the basic information on board. Well done AB
what does this company do, whos funding it and whats the point if it..
Mitie basically supply different services and contractor personnel to corporate clients. Services such as security guarding, facilities management, catering, cleaning, CCTV control rooms, gardening, post rooms. I think I've covered most of them, might be a couple I've missed out. I worked for Mitie myself for a little while, well over 10 years ago now. They're nothing special. Sh*t*e Mitie was the nickname us frontline staff and contractors had for them.
I've worked through a cowboy security agency covering sites for mitie,Seems like a cowboy company.
deadwood pompous management = Spot On
Yeah, I'm proud to get knocked back by Mitie due to a slight blemish on my application form for a maintenance/caretaker job looking after a government funded fish research project. They only seem to employ people without any such blemishes. I think I dodged a bullet.
The little guy with the beer gut is a prime example of why companies shouldn't employ ex cops as their security experts.
Bang on. Can 100% tell he was an ex copper.
Lack of knowledge is the defence, not fat shaming.
He's just missing his winkle pickers from his 70's days!
TubbyGuts definitely an Ex Bacon 🥓
Police have no 1st hand knowledge of security services, I once had the job of training our police service in what
security services were all about be it static guards, mobile patrols, armed payroll escort and crowd control.
Make a point of suing them for breach of copyright. Something like £160,000 should be adequate.
I agree but let's say £250,000 to more or less match up with your subscribers, Ehhhhh Beeeeee. Excelsior! 🤡(Mitie Clown services)
That old man is still in policeman mode. Guaranteed ex-copper. That sarcastic sense of entitlement never gets lost.
Once a policeman, always a policeman.
Even worse than a Copper cuz theres less accountability in the Private Sector. Wouldn't be surprised if he was a SACKED Copper and pulled some dodgy strings to get a Private Sector job
Yes , fatso with the comb-over almost certainly is an ex- copper.
Initially trying to flex ,hoping for compliance, a big fail there.
What a plonker , making a total idiot of himself on social media.
That company putting that info about Auditing on their website has just opened a can of hurt for them...all Auditors in the UK will now go and audit them, and rightly so! Great job as usual AB!
Except the web page has now disappeared!
@@purehillmanimp Yeah, but AB's video hasn't.
I will audit them in Scotland for sure just changed my channel into an audit channel now will take my lead from AB, Charlie V, and Audit Yorkshire, and others.
the fact that they see auditing as a problem says it all
@@Black-Circle ghastly toads dont like freedom
But he's the head of security for a security company , but not the security head of company
@@nasapayrollsystem8701 yea its called knob head of the company 😂
@@DG-EditsYT 🤣
Pity that their head of security for Mitie skipped reading their own internal materials on auditing, since he fell for just about everything mentioned in the pamphlet. They should use your video to train the rest about how to NOT handle someone with a camera.
Sir, you assume he can read.
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MITIE has absolutely shot themselves in the foot with that absolutely PATHETIC PDF, I hope other auditors will go there
I fink ure rite
Do you mean, pathetic?
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@@bccapone837 no he's from Glasgow. 😁
Mate, grammatically the first part of your sentence does not make a lot of sense. You could write, "Mitie have shot themselves" or "Mitie has shot itself". Thank you for correcting the spelling.
Go to their head office with Marty and set them right. Sue them as well, it’s the only way to stop their theft! One of your best yet!!!
Absolute quality as normal AB. How rude of them to use your video images without permission to highlight their own agenda against the auditing community! Civil claim AB?🤔👍👑
The security manager doesn't understand implied rights of access!
Shocking how these guy are trained.
They are basically bouncers - 'what you doing here? Ya names not down, you ain't coming in' attitude.
The guy said "turn your camera off, point it over there, take your mask down and tell me your name" ... Who the hell does he think he is ordering someone about like that when they aren't even standing on their property ?!
All you gotta do is let them talk and within a couple of minutes they show themselves up to be low IQ people that have very little common sense.
And these two were proper fannies.
Someone is saying the security manager was once a copper.
He gave that away when AB put his foot on the fence and the manager said "your foots on our fence that's our property" . You get well trained in the police to be that petty.
Also said you are threatening and intimidating. They have to try and escalate it.
These guys are an embarrassment.
More worryingly, where the hell they getting this training from?.
Yes for sure below average IQ goons , they just need to open their mouths and you can see it. The more stupid people the more obvious it gets to everyone except to themselves.
He did say 'please'
When a head of security complains about your foot resting on the fence because its their property is really scraping the barrel
I am not sure it's their fence anyway, as the " bad side" is visible to the public .
He looks like he has ate a barrel.
don't know for certain regarding English law, but in Scotland whatever side the posts are on are that sidses responsibility ... so from what I see it looks council/publicl property
especially as he has stolen AB's property. bit cheeky to say the least.
@@shipahoy1001 They wouldn't know what Bad Side means. But it's the first thing I noticed and was just going through the comments to see if other had noticed.
Another absolutely fantastic video. More of these videos and stay safe PLEASE.
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@@AuditingBritain you should get a gang of Auditors to pay them another visit.
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Why is it called the CRIMINAL justice system?
Why not British justice system?......hmmmm. makes you wonder.
Big respect AB, I love that you went to this location after they stole our work. As we already know I have made and are continuing to make enquiries regarding this.
Big Up AB
So I'm in Turkey having brand new teeth, a brand new smile and I'm in a bit of pain but I'm using my new smile laughing at your audit AB. Miles away watching my favourite auditor. Funny guy. Stay well my friend.
Thank You Bradley 🤛
Wow. Mitie stealing pictures isn't that a copyright infringement.
Thieving is a crime isn't it.
You need to bill them AB. And you are free to set whatever price you feel is reasonable at the top end of the market rate. They have already used it without permission so simply taking it down will not suffice. They need to pay you.
My business is based on intellectual property. Mitie stole IP.
AB should sue them. Easy 10 grand.
Now that has to be the biggest invite too all Auditors and fans to pay a visit at once.......What a fun day that would be to have a Army Auditing
@@pos2215 They may even use the toilets you're cleaning.
Hahahaha I absolutely love it when AB tells them to get back to work at the end of every video 👌
His face though "The head of all things" lol just priceless when his face drops over the fact they haven't asked for permission 🤣 😂 😅 I had reply that part 6 times and it still makes me laugh well done A.B
I would have thought that after publicising a document for the world to see, about how to be aware of and how to handle auditors, they would have been prepared for a visit and not sent two childish, stupid clowns out to deal with you. They're right about auditors being a problem but only for the companies/people that keep breaking the law and abusing peoples rights, like they did with two pictures.
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It is lighting the blue touch paper. Waving a red rag at a bull. Shooting yourself in the foot. ...
Well said I thought that
They've taken that page down. Getting a 404 error.
@Tom Foster Well spotted.
This was good, my husband pointed this channel out. Regular folk are sick and tired of being told what they can`t do until we fight back and realize that people still have freedoms.
Correct, we have freedoms and power..use them or lose them.
That is the former Met chorus girl Commander Ian Carter or as I called him during his vetting, PC Actually. This is the Met Cretin that claimed there was no added threat of terrorism to the residents of the dozen or so council flats equipped with surface to air missiles during the 2012 Olympics. The anti-Terrorism missile implacements were less of a target than a Boots the Chemist, according to that terrorism genius. The year after soldier Lee Rigby was beheaded just outside one of those very locations.
YO, AB!
TY for your hard work great interaction as usual.
These two crooks should go and work in the house of commons! Well done AB, very good auditing as usual. Keep up the good work.👍👍👍🤜
Another beauty.
"Section 33 of the criminal (right)?? does not apply here, it applies to places like a Tescos car park or something like that, it doesn't apply to a private business."
Uhhhmmm I think we can all agree that Tescos is a private business. This guy really has no idea does he.
Gold , absolute gold.
This proves that they do know the law, and are knowingly willingly ignoring it
Those two are 24kt TH-cam Gold. Specialising in Audit Prevention by attracting all the auditors across the U.K to audit them.
Using A.B and Marti's photos is creating a perfect storm. Those two security heads are trained to escalate word perfect.
Collectively these guys couldn't sweep a floor!
Wait until this company sees Bert & Ernie defending their parking lot.
Brilliant AB!
I love how you troll the 💩 out of them. Lol!! Great job!
IF I owned a security company, I would require my head of security to maintain a reasonable physically fit appearance. Stay off the crumpets man!
He's not "head of security" he said himself he is Head of Corporate Risk Management, he's a group board member.
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No need to fat shame anyone in any profession. They may be stupid, but judging based off of their appearance, you're a bit of a bellend that needs to go out and buy a few manners.
head of security just invited every auditor in the uk 2 visit their car park's everywhere they have an office.
not the sharpest tool in the box is he.
he really was clueless.
Sharpest tool in the box?? E looks like a blunt chisel. Not a very clever chap is he strutting his stuff in front of the camera. Well he gave a performance for for us via a.b. and u tube. Thank u mr mittie. Nice building shame about the fence. Needs securing as it's not to secure is it. What impressions does that say to visitors. An if its private as you say why is there a reception and receptionist and nice airy place for visitors to be made welcome. Mr mittie you are predudist if you are not going to let a.b. in as a member of the public with a valid complaint about the company..
Head of security came in so smug and changed his face when he relised they been caught stealing lol
Oh AB you are awesome, this really made me laugh. Keep up the good work.
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absolutely brilliant love how you wind them up
A masterpiece AB. Legend!!
“You’re not supposed to engage”
Head of security engages 😂👏🏼
Head of Risk certainly took a bit of a risk by engaging.
This head of security is so ill informed that he has to be an ex-cop. You can tell MITIE are raking it in from bloated government contracts at the expense of the taxpayer if their office is in the shard.
You gave them a day off today i love it ..you are the man ....always on the top ..good work bro!!
I TUPE’d into them a few years ago, spent 5 years there on the Technical Facilities side I then was cast adrift when the contract ended. They had a terrible reputation within their staff, I had a non working supervisor in charge of 2 of us. We couldn’t get help on the contract to do any work, there’s no money in the contract we were told, but enough money to employ someone to lord it over us. When we fell at behind with breakdowns and service works they got another supervisor to try to gee us along, we were managed to death by useless ex-engineers promoted out of harms way.
When I was there, they carried out an internal questionnaire about the staff perception of Mitie and had a big shock. They were slagged off over and over from engineers who hated being there. They were listed in the top ten worst companies in the UK, it was in a national newspaper ( the Sun I think ).
This knob is typical of their petty ways, this is our land, our buildings, get your foot off our fence etc. When you point out they’ve “stolen” your image they couldn’t give a shit about “your” ownership of your property, it only works one way with them, “can you prove it” the cheeky bastard.
Stealing photos is naughty..... esp for commercial purposes.
Read up on fair use. It's also non commercial as it's internal training.
@@xtrubblex86 If it is "internal training" why is it on their public website? Why is it posted on the internet rather than the company's intranet.
Mitie is a security company that makes money by offering security services and training for a profit.
@@Ohm_mega if the document is for training and is not for commercial purposes, they can use someone’s image as an example to others. Read up on fair use
@@rachelmcdonald410 If the document was for internal use only why was it put on the *internet* instead of the company *intranet*
Fair use also requires that the user acknowledge the source or comment on the reason for the image or footage used.
While producing an article about Roman roads in Britain I used a copyrighted image of a Roman road, listed the source, and commented on the nature of the road.
What comment did the "training" article make about either of the "auditors" or the way they carry out their "audits"? What lessons do the "trainers" draw from the images used, or are they using the images as part of a glossy brochure advertising their "training courses"?
Shocking behaviour from a supposid professional company. Thanks for highlighting your issue Ab
16:58 For a security guy who seems to have heard about s33, he gets it totally wrong. s33 doesn't apply anywhere as it only applies to groups in a uniform. It's pure gaslighting by auditors. He thinks it only applies to supermarkets etc. That means he's had crap legal advice. What an embarrassment for a security company.
Is it true that You're the guy from Abs Bullring video?🤔
S33 is a description of public places for the wearing of paramilitary uniforms, you’re right about that bit. BUT it is STILL a description of a public place. It’s probably our only such description in law.
@@MrAndrewFarrow Public place appears with its definition in a number of pieces of legislation, such as section 1(4) of the Prevention of Crime Act 1953. Enough that it's a common legal term. There is also case law that further defines it, Knox v Anderton where a corridor in a block of flats was defined as a public place as it was used regularly as a short cut and that meant a person arrested there with a knife got found guilty.
@@TheSadButMadLad Are You that that from Bullring or not?
Exactly. I'm surprised AB keeps quoting that Act given that it's nothing to do with public access. It just amended earlier legislation to make it an offense to wear political uniforms on privately owned land that is accessible to the public as well as publicly owned land.
Out of all the auditers your the only 1 that makes me laugh top man.
I have a mate who does a lot of sub contracting work supplying security guards for Mitie Security and they are a nightmare to get money out off. Just about put him out the game a few times.
Brilliant idea! I read that PDF you posted yesterday where the mentioned you specifically. Now, let's see how they act!
Those two guys descended themselves into embarrassment, it was great how you could see on their faces.
LOL their "Rise of Auditors" document ends by saying auditing is a legal activity and the focus should be to de escalate and disengage with them. the "head of security" of Mitie the people who published your copyrighted material ESCALATED and engaged with you by approaching you when you were not even on their property and without even checking with his own reception started telling you what to do and started making an issue of you calling to them to tell them about their breaking of the copyright law. then having offered to assist he moved to the "nothing to do with me" mode.
Total bolx.. A.B was at a totally separate division of the company. I thought the dude with the tie was fairly helpful. He told him where to contact to have his issue looked at by those who construct the website and look after its legalities. I think A.B kept mishearing him... Not the best here from A.B.
@@robotsonmars1989 people are free to walk into any publically accessible office. AB did that. He was asked to return. BEFORE he returned hevwas approached by someone who did not identify. That person gave him a makey uppy line about him trespassing but never trespassed him. He said the property was private and AB had been on it. It was explained that AB had indeed been on it and had been asked to return there. The hearsay about the person who ASKED HIM TO RETURN being frightned of him was just that... Hearsay. The man who later identified as "head of security" then offered to help. This was a copyright issue and nothing to do with him but he persisted. He was then shown tbe copyright issue oddly in a publication on security about which the head of security was ignorant! He then confirmed what he was already told... It was nothing to do with him and in spite of offering to help he fobbed it off. He could easily call head office and state they have a copyright complaint but all he really wanted to do it seems was get rid of someone from his workplace.
@@bartconnolly6104 Nope ..Not free to walk in.It had a door entry system .He was buzzed in. He's the head of security of a totally different division and told A.B where to direct his enquiry to get onto the correct course if he wants to pursue a copyright claim. Absolutely no point in adding another layer to it.. As far as the woman being distressed I'm guessing she contacted security after getting A.B out of the building. If she did feel that way the inviite back was just a rouse to get him out. He was never getting back in my opinion.
@@robotsonmars1989 so how long have you worked for Mitie?
@@johnnybird7593 Lol I don't work for Mitie but I do have many Years in the services and 30+ years in Security in various positions. Yes I do see a lot of poor interactions on these types of videos but in all honesty this one was ok. If they did indeed want AB out of the building they got him out of there quite easily and with little hassle. They still gave him all the info he required to pursue his copyright grievance via the appropriate avenue.. That particular site had no input or influence on the construction of Mities website. AB may have had a valid argument but he was having it with the wrong people.
Yo AB Respect!
I worked for Mitie as an electrician. They also look after buildings and maintain them.
digital photos have meta data you can see in the "properties" tab when you mouse over, it will have the date it was taken, any modifications and it might even have your name if you do batches of photos, but if YOU took that photo YOU have copyright regardless, it would be incredibly difficult to fake the meta data on a photo - especially on your own computer and especially on a phone.
you have an appointment though...
Mr Security is a heart attack waiting to happen. He's a mess.
Freedom of choice. He can eat wants he wants
the opening line " the auditing craze is a growing problem " the answer is simply, don't employ nutters !!
AB keeps delivering man too consistent w it
You made the receptionist feel intimidated, I guess you made the other two walking through the door feel cold as well.
A. B. Sue them for taking your Photograph they are to muppet 👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🏴👌respect A. B.
Staff are now being specifically trained to not talk to AB. Luckily they don't listen to their training though haha.
My wife just pointed out that Photography Is Not A Crime - unless it's stolen :)
A company that publishes information about auditors and how you approach auditors completely fails in how to approach an auditor, you couldn't make it up, 🤦🏻♂, well done AB with another great audit
If they really wanted a law suit , they went the right way about it.
They deliver exceptional every day 😭🏴
It takes 11 pages of misinformation before the last paragraph of the Mitie "Auditing" security propaganda states the activity is legal. Exceptional work Mitie !
MITIE are an appalling organisation with their never ending outsourcing activity . These two plonkers are so inept . It is incredible that they acted in such a petty and ineffective way .
I watched this video til 3:20, paused it, then put my seat belt on to watch the rest of the video.
great job AB! this was really fun!
What a terrible look for a company purporting to know how to deal with auditors. I don't believe the receptionist was upset by you, I think he got his knickers in a knot because the notorious AB came in, made an inquiry, sat calmly waiting for a response and then left and he missed it all and was now playing catch up. He probably realised too late that you had been there, came out and questioned the receptionist and made her feel like she had made a mistake. He really came across as someone thinking he had screwed up and needed to get back in front of things. He did not want to have to tell his boss Auditing Britain paid them a visit and no one, including the head of security, noticed. From now on his title will be the dickhead of security.
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Thanks AB to help us to understand the importance of our rights.
You are a Máster. Thanks
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@@AuditingBritain , Ian Carter stated at least twice that he was the head of security, and yet i did not see him actually prove that by lifting up his identity card which appeared to be attached to his belt. I could see the wheels turning and the smile disappear from his face when he suddenly realised that the video could end up being shown in a civil hearing to determine intellectual property or misuse of the photographs.
Aaaah, so Leonardo da Vinci never owned the mona lisa because he wasnt in it..... Holy shit, the stuff a low level security guard knows about owning a picture is amazing. Top notch....
That was hilarious. The "Head of Security" came up with more stories than the brothers Grimm! You legitimately have a good claim on their using your copyrighted material. I'd certainly chance it or, at least, talk to a legal expert about it. It would be hilarious to read about you getting compensation from them for using your picture in their anti-auditing training!
Omg that was brilliant, I'm crying.
Thanks AB, they work at Ikea and the ones I met were clueless on their legal rights and responsibilities, demanding receipts!
How on earth have those 2 clowns got that job when they know nothing about the law its called copyright law. Sue them and make them take it down even if its your photo you put up on the internet
would not be so bad if they knew something about the law.
He tried to portray a sense of authority ! Some people can pull it off ! Unfortunately , he couldn't !!
Another brilliant video!
Bravo, AB. X
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This is pure gold!!! Only you could come across this.. I hope you follow up on it and give us a update??
Oh dear, AB you would have thought that a company of their size with their knowledge of the subject matter that document is about, namely Auditing and Auditors would have not been so dumb as to steal your intellectual property. Go for them my friend, they do not have a leg to stand on, that is copyright theft slam dunk.
Hahahaaa! That was very funny AB. I suggest you send your video to every auditor you have contact with and ask them to pay Mitie a "courtesy" visit.
Well done, love that your channel is growing and these Muppets are getting intimidated by auditors, you breathe fire upon them AB, keep it up!
You should get a group of auditors together to prove there is an “implied right of access”
😂😂😂 best epic fail ever. A company that claims to be able to teach how to deal with Auditors. What an absolute Muppet that head of security was. If I was looking for a company to help teach that I wouldn't go to them after watching the head of security made himself look like a total fool
You set up a business that probably cost a million dollars and the first people you talk to invalidate the whole purpose of said business.
PRICELESS!
Just FYI
Photographs are protected under the law of Copyright as it has been included as an artistic work. ... Ordinarily, the author is the first owner of the copyright in a work created by him. In case of a photograph, the photographer will be the first owner unless there is an agreement to the contrary
Photographs are protected by copyright just like any other piece of creative work, and is protected in UK law by the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 and some EU directives that came into force in 1989, and under these acts they come under the classification 'Artistic Work'
Well done for stating a fact, what's your point...
Like many things, they are exceptions. Fair use being one of them. The use of copywritten images in things like training and education can easily fall within fair use. If the image is used for illustrative purposes and not for commercial gain, it might come under fair use. They should have at least credited the image though.
@@jordanprice4761 Do they have permission to use the photograph from the photographer for commercial use.
@@Stuart_George While you are completely correct in what you've said, their website is one big advertising platform and as such this image is being used for commercial gain. There is only one description for what they have done, copyright theft, a criminal offence.
@@chrishartley1210 100%
Love the response they gave you. How do you know it’s your photo? The response is ,you know it is not yours Mr Mitie. AB owns the copyright on that image and they should know they have no right to lift it off the Internet and use it.
"You would make a good politician" Thank you AB, that's exactly what I was thinking since the beginning of your encounter with the Minister of Defense there.
Was that "Minister of defense" or "minister of de fence" (and de gate)
Well they certainly don't practice what they preach, in one video you have completely undermined their whole purpose, great audit, it was the gift that kept on giving 🤣
That was brilliant AB. I could hear their chins hit the floor here when you broke the news to them that the company had used your photo. What a total disgrace from Mitie. Their publicity team certainly need a good talking to.
Ab ur only man that can pull these type of videos off hope ur keeping well bro keep up good work
"you'd be a great politician" is a savage insult🤣
I can't find any of those pages loooool, good job
Think they need to move their reception to a public place if someone being on their property is a problem?
They are laughing about using your photo in a company brochure without your permission ??
It's actually quite serious breach of copyright , and certainly no laughing matter ! I would sue , for sure ! They don't have a leg to stand on !
They might. Fair use for training purposes. They were not using it for commercial gain, just education and training.
Only suggesting they might, it's not as cut and dried as you may think.
Its not breach and its not serious You just assumin this.
@@Stuart_George The training is apart of financial gain. The company is a money making enterty. Therefore, the training isn't free.
@carlton lambert If they are not selling the training, or selling the document itself, then it is not for commercial gain. If your argument was valid, colleges would not be able to use copywritten material under the exemptions because the college is ultimately a commercial enterprise.
@@Stuart_George Colleages half move like they are.
What a joke this planet is becoming , thank God we still have critical thinking humans around 👍🏼👌🏼😉
Earth aint no planet
Only about 20% of them .... the rest are sheeple
@@DerekHundik we orbit the sun and have living things like plants and creatures, therefore it's a planet. 👍🏼👌🏼✌🏼
This is what happens when you employ and ex cop or ex prison Officer the fact that they are supposed to train people on how to deal with auditors then fail so miserabley is testimonial to there company.
The head of security failed the exam. The master himself had come.
The balls on you AB,your a legend 😎
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You just knew this was not going to end well when he walks up to a guy with a camera, and proceeds to say he does not want to be filmed! He comes across all aggressive, asking what you want, and when you tell him he has absolutely no clue how to help you, or interest in doing do. And it looks like they have taken that file down from their website too!
What this looks like is you were dealing with two ex coppers who will never accept being in the wrong no matter what personally I would instruct solicitors to. claim damages for un authorised use of your material
Those guys were complete pricks.
They were also lying about you hurting that ladies feelings when you were actually polite, etc.
That’s really scary to be honest, they should be done for that
They've taken the PDF document down. Does anyone have a link to it? AB? Would like to read it :)
I hope petriot British people deeply look into this company activities .