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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- The RTX 4070 is here... but should you even care?
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I hope they collect dust on the shelves like the 4080. I'm hanging onto my 6950xt for now.
dang,, I bought a 4080. 😭😭.
making me feel like a dumby
I bought a 4070fe. Honestly if I’m going to get similar performance of a 3080 for 150w less I’ll take it. I have a 3080 now and it runs 15-20c hotter and only gives maybe 10% better performance on certain titles? If you have the money, this ain’t bad and you can splurge on a higher end card later lol
@@Wheel-os I originally bought a 4070 ti, and it was way more than I needed tbh. I don't play games, just surf the web and try and mess around in fruity loops.
but running msi kombustor and watching the fps 😂😂🤣🤣. it's like a drag race, you always wanna beat your score somehow.
so I decided to do a whole new build for a 2nd computer,
all white td500 mesh
13700k
4080 aero white
Asia horse and cablemod cables... white
280mm white nzxt x63
there's some black on the mobo and psu that give a decent contrast for the casing.
I'm terribly new to cable management though 😩. everything is running but I really wish I bought a bigger case to start with. and could get my wire runs a lot neater.
With 6950xt, you can still afford wait for a while until nvidia crashes and burns on their current catalog pricing..
I don’t know why I want a good gpu I don’t even play high performance demanding games.
Hey this was really helpful. I like this format. The chart-by-chart discussion was perfect. Wasn’t too rushed, but wasn’t too long on each slide.
You guys like this but he didn't have time to do the AMD cards? Sounds fishy
the content doesn´t match the title though, i got scammed
agreed
I've never been a high-end build guy, always budget. But this next build was supposed to be the one were I finally went high-end (Zen 4 + ~4070). And then the last few years happened where prices for everything went crazy. I was hoping things would return to normal, but I hate the idea of spending more money for something than I would normally have to. I am seriously considering just sticking to low-midrange for my next build now.
yep I feel like the best bang for your buck atm is still a used 3060 12gb if you are still having something older. I still play on my 1070ti 8gb and I really dont know what to upgrade to, I actually want atleast 16gb for my next card but the prices are insane.. I am actually looking at the Intel Arc A770 because it has 16gb for only 400 Bucks which is unmatched, but they still seem to have driver issues with dx11 and dx9 if I heard correctly. Ill probably still keep the waiting game and see what happens, but if things dont get better I have to make a decision at some point...
Depending what you're looking at, your price range if you want to go high end, and where you live consider amd's graphic card offerings. Last gen's Radeon 6950xtx is punching well above the 4070's weight class at the same price (in some regions in my part of the US it's the same or cheaper) and more vram plus the driver support has been great. Through the communities dedicated support for upgrading outdated cards. It will likely have a long life span. The 7900xt and xtx both punch equal if not well above the 4080 for pricing similar to the 4070ti's price as well as as having an insane amount vram. Just do be aware of the risk of those two card right now as some do have physical issues but if you get an ok bored from them the driver support should keep it relevant for a long time to come.
Unless you feel like you need path tracing specifically, amd is in a good spot right now surprisingly. And honestly I don't think path tracing is gonna be decent or widely supported until another architect upgrade possible 2. I'd say consider used but considering the miner boom there's no way of knowing how heavily over used and under cooled some cards were versus won't. So I can't in good conscious recommend used this time around. And it feels really weird to say that.
stick with budget builds. that's what I've always done, and I've done many builds in my time (since the 1990s). you don't need some GPU that will cost you as much as a complete system should cost you unless you want to play games that were released the last year at very high framerates or at very high settings.
charts made by reviewers tend to use pointlessly high settings. just use "high" or "medium" and you'll be able to play most games just fine even if your GPU is "budget".
Look into an 6800xt. Amazing 1440p ultra card, amazing price to performance!
Buy ARC! If not this gen, then hold off until the next generation of ARC, which - if driver updates continue to see 3-5% improvements to performance EVERY MONTH it's possible that even the second generation ARC GPU will be swinging up with AMD, if not Nvidia!
Truthfully, I'm still in 10 series. Been watching all these cards, how they are doing and watching price points. I would love some ray tracing, but I'm not gonna die without it. I think once evga backed out of the market I ended up dropping my plans to upgrade. Now I just keep watching and waiting to see something that catches my eye. But really, even at 1440p my 1080ti still does what I want it to for the most part. I would love to updlgrade at some point but the pricing has been pretty nuts for awhile.
Agreed. My 1080 still plays every game I own at high to maxed out completely at 1080p which is what I game at (For now, until something compelling comes along. Wouldn't mind a 3080ti) but I'm just not happy with the prices for the 40 series, and seeing how they fucked the 70 line, up I don't even want one of those now either. I'm usually an 80 or higher, but man. $1200 for a 4080 is slightly more than double what I paid for my 1080
@@artvandelay9131 I just sold my 1080 with 150 euros. Masterful product imo. I bought it new for 450€. I updated to used 3080 and paid 600 of it. I don't play a lot but I guess I can go few years with this..
I'm the same. I'm just willing to get a 3080ti because my 1080ti shows its age when I plug it into a 4K tv. But the price is still holding me back. I just don't get why people simply hit the buy button and that is it. Don't they think it sends a message that those prices are ok?
@@BrunoRodrigoPintodaSilva As someone that has a 4080, I just want to play games? I work hard, make good ass money at my job, want to come home to a peak gaming experience of 100 fps 1440p ultrawide max settings. I'm not gonna not buy something I want and can afford just to send some company a message that isn't going to be heard anyway. It's fucking video games, it's not that serious. Sorry, I guess? lol
@@ForeverMasterless I really get you point of view. It just gets on my nerves that we don't get what we feel we should get. When you buy a car with a higher power/mass ratio you expect it to be more powerful, in the end it's just a car. OK, you can buy a 100k USD car that is focused on building materials and not power itself, but you know what you will get. What do you want with a VGA? I guess we all want our fps, and it seems we are paying for god know what, because the price is going up much faster than graphics and fps. I really hope you get what I wanted to express. Anyway, great weekend for all of us.
These cards just make me glad that I switched over to AMD. Never used AMD before, first time buying an RX 6700 for $330 and I think the value proposition on AMD is just insane compared to Nvidia. I can see how ray tracing and certain productivity software could push people towards Nvidia, but overall I think AMD takes the cake for value gaming cards.
Same here... Man, Nvidia is great, but AMD is for gamers.Nvidias main target are the professionals that need Nvidia productivity software and enthusiasts.. if you're not one of them, THEN A M D IS F O R Y O U .
I nearly went for Nvidia but stuck to AMD, I was AMD back in early 2000s and glad I stuck by them
i'd also keep a eye on Intel's graphic cards, they got a 2nd generation in the works that hopefully is them punching through and comparing well to AMD/Nvidia cards.
4090: 20 GB VRAM, $1600
7900 XTX: 24 GB VRAM, $1000
Need I say more. Sure the 4090 is faster, but for $600 more, on what planet is that worth it. And less VR so overtime it will be worse than the XTX? What a joke
@@thisislame2207 Intel is awesome for sure! Their drivers have been maturing slowly. I think the only place they fall behind is legacy game support. DX9 and earlier titles especially have very poor performance with Intel GPUs according to almost every reviewer on TH-cam.
We NEED more of this format, Jay. I think it works better for everyone involved and I gotta say, I've been watching your videos for a long time and this discussion was what I really needed to know If i should go out and buy or keep sitting on my 1660 Ti and wait. Thank you so much!
agreed much prefer this over the 20 minutes of charts and music
This is how hardware review videos should be done. Quick answers in the title for those of us with little/short attention spans, lots of details in the video for those who are actually concerned about that kind of stuff. Both are perfectly fine, but honestly I'm only really interested in if I'm getting a good product or not at the price it's being offered.
Man, who knew that buying a 2070 Super 3,5 years ago would be such an amazing financial decision. With prices going insane on GPUs right after and to this day, I'm probably gonna stick with it for some years to come.
Same. Got a 2080s which was a "bad value" at the time.... lol
@@thegobstopper323 still rocking my 1080
still using my 2060s
Same, 2070 Super still chugging away and I have no plans to upgrade
It’s a good card, I have the FE sitting on a shelf on display. Nicest card, build wise, I’ve ever had.
Great breakdown of the charts! Clear and informative, with fantastic comparison notes. Thanks for doing this for us all, Jay! Much prefer this over the rock music shotgun charts with discussion after.
I like this way of talking about results more then just showing performance flash cards. I'd love to see this format more often
Who is this card even aimed for? 6800xt performs better, has more vram and launched late 2020 (over 2 years ago) at 650$.
Maybe at me, small content creator who wants GPU to work without problems while playing and recording like I had with AMD, but the price is acceptable if I do some overtime at work.
@@Nub85204 I know, that why I won't buy it new from the store, there's always some other way, I've never bought one new.
I'm still hanging with 970 as I would need to change almost everything to get new card and prices aren't the best currently 😅
Well, I have to say that I'm impressed by the efficiency and the level of performance with the RTX 4070. Since RTX 4060 and TI aren't great and that the 4080/4090 are so expensive, the 4070 could be the best option for most people. The fact that it can perform as well as the 3080 is a very good thing too. But then again, coming from a GTX 1070, I guess I'm easily impressed :D
Sounds like we've reached the stage where 50 series cards are now going to be around 300-400 which is kind of depressing. I remember buying my 780TI for £380 way back in 2013
380 Pounds is ~$620, or the price of this card, that offers 4 times the performance. Sounds about right for 4 years.... wait, it's been 10 years?
@@taekwoncrawfish9418 Most people don't, lol.
@Delorean911Turbo yea these humans really need a slap of reality and truly appreciate what all goes into computer components in general and all they have to do is spend the money and get pleasure like wow man
@@Delorean911Turbo Except the 780 TI was one of the top tier products with only the titan being higher at the time.
This is why I'm STILL running a 5th Gen i5, two GTX 970's and a DDR3 MoBo.
I like how Jay talked through the results instead of just slides of the fps
I'm just happy my 1080 is still rather high-end. :) I've had it for just barely over 6 years now.
I paid $650 *for a 980ti,* when they were still new and still the best you could get. What the eff is with this pricing, man?! 🤬
NVIDIA be having Dollar signs in their eyes. 😂
Your point being? In adjusted dollars, $650 2014 dollars is $825 2023 dollars...
@@awebuser5914 my income didn't jump that much either, dingus.
@@ZeroHourProductions407 Well, you didn't have a decent job, obviously! CPI is CPI, your job should have kept pace, unless it is minimum-wage...
Still loving my MSI 1080Ti, holds up really well ^^
I was planning to upgrade from my 2080Ti to a 4070Ti (playing in 3440x1440p), but the 12gb VRAM leads me to think about a 4080 again. But than it breaks down to "even if i can afford it, it just feels completly out of realism to spend 1400€ on a GPU"... and in the end i probably stay with my 2080TI until the same happens with the next series... If the 4080 had the actual price of the 4070TI, they would have sold me a new card, but this market is still a circus.
Wonder if the 70 class is the new 60?
More like its the new 1080 but then again i game on 1080p with my trustee gtx1080
Pretty much. This is awful for a 70 card.
yeah and the **60 is the new **garbage lmao 8gb 4060 ti??????????? axaxaxqxax1x1x1x1xaxaxaxaxa
70 class is still a 70 class GPU. A reasonable price GPU that gets you high->ultra settings. 60 class is still 60 class. A cheap GPU that's powerful enough to play the latest games. The only difference is prices have gone up some. But that's more to blame on the economy than GPU manufacturers. Computer parts aren't the only thing getting more expensive.
@@johnc8327 cheap lmao, brainwashed nvidia fanboy right here, get help
This chart discussion format is much MUCH better than the previous "Throw all charts at your face first" format. I do have to ask, Jay, can we get an updated video on what some of the graphics settings are and what they do nowadays in more modern titles such as Cyberpunk, RDR2, etc? I'm sure there's many people that have no idea what some of those settings do in terms of performance and visuals (i.e. DLSS)
I'm well past the point of caring about having the most powerful GPU. I make video games, not to produce the best possible graphics, but to make something fun and mentally stimulating. My GTX 1080 is definitely enough for that. I want people to be able to play my games on laptop graphics, old mid-range GPUs like a GTX 560, stuff like that. The more, the merrier.
I'm perfectly satisfied with my 6700xt for now. With components pricing these days I think there will be more console gaming.
The problem is the 30 series was too competent from BOTH the pricing and performance perspective. Unless you're doing heavy machine learning or any work related tasks where every second counts, the premium on the 40 series is hard to swallow. Totally not necessary for 30 series folks to upgrade just for games.
What's exciting about this card is the low power consumption and possibility of having short cards, making it the most powerful low power consumption sub 280mm long card currently available - good for people with weak power supplies and small cases. Hopefully AMD matches it with a better performing 7800 XT at a competitive price with their AIBs producing some short cards. The reference 7900 XT is under 280mm long I think, so there's hope.
I do not get it how graphic cards can be so much cheaper in the US. The cheapest 4070ti for instance is well above 1000$ in Sweden =(
Used market is where it is at, bought a overclocked RTX 3080ti for 450$ which is not far off from the 4070ti
Not intrested at this price point & not purchasing a card with less than 12 GB VRAM. Which will >probably< be the 4060 series. I want a card that will last longer & 8GB cards are showing their limits today.
I have been critical of your reviews, so its only fair to say the positive as well. I appreciate the time you take to explain the marketing hype and pricing strategies of these cards. As a hobbiestt PC builder, meaning I only build when my current PC gets old or crashes, the marketing/performance hype vs actual value/ cost per dollar when comparing current to previous models is awesome. Super informative. Thank you.
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Same situation. I usually build another one every 5-7 years depending. I will also buy new GPU to support them. These prices are pretty insane.
I felt I overpaid in 2020 when I got an evga ftw 3060ti for $440. I typically stick with a midrange build but if I were to build something similar today it'd nearly $3k mostly because of the gpu.
I'm on a 3070 right now and only into the 2 year mark, the previous GPU was the infamous 970 GTX which outlasted all the way through to 20xx series and the 30xx series outdid the 20xx on price and performance, by the time it comes to new rig, it could be up to the 50xx and beyond. Pricewise the 4070 is still alright. But i would prefer to step it up to the xx80's on the next round
Remember when the 70 class was the second rung of Nvidia cards?
Now it's at least the 4th, it looks like a chump silicon next to the other cards and it's really not, especially with the outrageous prices on these things.
These cards are all awesome but what a MESS.
In pricing for sure but if you ask me a TI model should never be a launch tier it should be the one year refresh.
I've said on a few reviews now that this feels like a $500-550 US card that is priced at $600. It's still not good enough value for me to bite. Personally, I've just been skipping buying newer games because I'm not going to get good performance out of them without spending more on a GPU than I'm willing to. I've actually been enjoying discovering older titles that still play well and/or titles that provide compelling gameplay without ridiculous hardware requirements (ie non-AAA FPS-style games). Still having fun! 🙂
You're not missing anything at all.
$200-300 is the range I have bought in for many, many upgrade cycles. Both companies lost their damn minds, thinking they should get a house payment for a graphics card.
I am looking at a 12gb 6750xt as the next jump. They are hovering around $380. I'm waiting for the price to drop or my credit card rewards balance to go up. I picked this card because I also don't want to have to have to upgrade to another 1000w+ power supply.
Currently using an RTX 3090 for 1440p gaming. Going to wait to 4k game on the 6000 series or 7000 when released before upgrading unless prices are to the moon.
Let me think a 4070 or a 6950XT for the same prize... oh wait i don't need to think :P
Got a 1080ti that's still kicking ass. I'll wait for price drops on used 3080ti. Buying new isn't worth it really
Remember how much a PC was in the 80s/90s? Yeah.. Also, it has been mentioned elsewhere, the price goes up but the performance does too, although the prices are getting out of hand I'll agree with that all the way.
I paid rougly the same for my 680 Lightning that I did for my 2070S, but my 2070S can also do tons more at a higher resolution.
Would have been fun to see the 2080ti included and more of the 7900xtx! Great review, Thanks!
I remember buying a 970 GTX for $230 while it was still fairly new. $599 is just way too much for a "mid-range" graphics card. Frankly, $499 is too.
my 3050 has kept me satisfied like a kid in a candy shop! I deff can't wait to upgrade it to the 40 series!
I think I've built my last gaming rig. I'm done. "We want you to pay a lot more for a lot less" is not something I can sign up for.
I thought the 90 series was basically just what the Titan series wwas. Which is kind of a shame honestly because I liked the Titan nameplate, exudes BDE
The US launch price of the RTX 3060TI barely differs from it's price in EU now. Crazy if you consider it's a 2y-old card.
And many average players still buy those because the newer cards are just too expensive.
They boxed themselves into a corner straight from the 4080 mess. That could have been really been an $800 value champ.
I feel like I made out like a bandit with a Evga 3070 Ti FTW3. So glad I didn’t wait for the 40 series
At this point I have totally lost interest in the GPU market. The comparisons make no sense whatsoever: We're now comparing value at insane pricing versus new cards at equally insane pricing. Even if the new price is a smidge less insane, it still is insane. Still rocking my 1080Ti, which runs everything I play fine at 1440p. If that ever breaks, I will probably just make more use of my Steam deck.
unless you want to play the "compiling shaders ad hoc stutter space remake", there is really no reason to upgrade from a 1070/1080
if any GPU is now more expensive than an entire gaming console, my PC reached its end of life
since the majority of PC titles are ports and seem to be an afterthought anyway, what is the point of upgrading the PC apart from some niches like high end VR gaming or MSFS
Hanging onto my 1060 that I bought in 2016.... Looking at getting a faulty used 3060 Ti, that if repaired, will be my new upgrade for the next 7 years.
With the amount of headroom the 4000 series has between cards, I can see the SUPER models returning... 4070 and 4070 Ti has more than enough room for a 4070 SUPER... 4080 and 4090 also has enough room for both a Ti and a SUPER version and the 4090 and the RTX TITAN ADA also has enough room for a 4090 Ti and a SUPER...
According to TechPowerUp the 4070 and 4070 Ti has 12% headroom, 4080 and 4090 has 25% headroom...
My gpu died so I have bought a 7900xtx for 950, as it was the cheapest powerhouse.
So i have a 2080ti FTW water cooled EVGA card, and i keep finding it really hard to choose an upgrade :/
All this is actually starting to make my brain hurt.
I decided to buy a 6950 XT Red Devil for €680 instead of a 4070 for around the same price or more.
I haven't upgraded my system since Q1 2014 and was still running an R9 280X, together with an I5 4460 and 8gb of ram.
Ordered the 6950 and a Ryzen 7 5800X3D for my new pc.
Will hang on to my current GPU + with the news that 8-10 GB VRAM ain't enough in a few years, I rather wait for the right-priced 16GB GPU. Unless the next lineup is gonna be priced even more ridiculously
Gears of War 5 - 4070 trounces the 4070Ti. Is the chart mislabeled?
My cousins 2080ti fried. He went amd 7900xt because of price this time. Another one converted
Gamers have to compete with prosumers making money from Stable Diffusion, ChatGPT, 3D rendering, Video rendering workloads. Radeon aren't as well supported in these workloads so the price aren't as high.
I am ready for a replacement, but holding back as long as possible, because nvidia has been gauging their gaming loyal customers for so long starting with bitcoin miners.
I'm going to hang onto my 6800XT Tuf gaming for now. I have badass Seasonic power supply that should be able to handle an upgrade in another generation or so.
I’ve owned every series of nvidia card since the 9800GT. Gtx 260 (448 bit holler back y’all), the 470, 2x580 in sli, 2x670 in sli, 780, 980, 1080, 2070S, 3080 - but only got the 3080 because it was a bday present. I cannot in good conscious buy anything they’ve priced these days. So instead, I bought a series x in 2022 and have been having a blast.
Also, your charts kept changing between the 7900XTX and the XT: was that on purpose? Or labelling error?
So i bought a 1070 when that was the latest generation. Now it's 3 generations later, and for the money i spent back then, the best card i can get today is... the card i already have.
At this point I dont see the value. Give me a good upgrade at $400-500 price point. And even that is more then I used to spend. Guess I will wait to see what the 4060 and 4060 Ti offer. Really makes me want to go with MSI over Nvidia just because of the bull.
I'm happy that I upgraded from an RX 580 4GB to an RX 6950 XT, and I was able to get it for 729€, which includes a 24% VAT tax. Though, if Nvidia had priced the RTX 4070 at $499 MSRP, I would have chosen it over the RX 6950 XT, but unfortunately, they missed the mark.
Still on a 2080 super I can afford a new one. But I refuse till they get their pricing in check.
I jumped from a 1060 3gb to a 3070ti, not gonna be upgrading for a few generations i think
For some reason the 4070Ti was cheaper than 3070’s where I live for a bit so I got one of those to upgrade from a 1070, otherwise I probably wouldn’t recommend 40 series haha
My 2080 Super still performs very well, I'll just wait for the 5000 series. Doesn't seem like there's any reason for me to get 4080 unless I was DLSS 3, which I don't care about atm
That promo for ifixit was badass
At 3440x1440, I'm not finding games that are pushing my 3090ti ... I don't see any compelling reason to upgrade to the 4-series.
All they had to do was price it at $499 and no one would be complaining, but NIVIDIA ain't happy when their customers are happy, so they had to raise the price.
My good old 1080ti is just gonna have to give me one more good year if it can, the poor thing...
Motherboards are reasonable, as long as you don't want to ride the bleeding edge. I'm upgrading my X99 system, my longest lived system ever, to a Z590 as we speak. But yes, graphic cards right now are a game of "Who is the Greater Fool?". I bought a 2060 back in 2019. It's STILL not currently being offered at the price I originally bought it at.
Why do some of your charts have a 7900 XT and some a 7900 XTX... is that an error or did you randomly test with either??
I will never pay those prices for the 40 series cards or any after them. Guess I'll just be sticking with my 3080.
People should just buy second hand cards if they want an upgrade. That would hurt their sales massively.
The fact that we have so many bad AAA games pretty much exasperated the difficulty of justifying the out of touch you prices
I have most of the parts for a new build but I will hold out until Nvidia wakes up and lowers their pricing.
NVIDIA is over inflating their prices.
Once they get a taste of the delicious nectar, they will never forget the taste.
I'm not looking to upgrade from my 3080 Ti any time soon. It was a huge leap from my 1080 Ti, and I'm still very happy with it since I game at 1440p. I need to save up for my mobo/cpu/ram upgrade. That's going to hurt.
Honestly since Team Red crapped the bed with their pre scalped underwhelming cards and Team Green doesn't care about their reputation in the slightest, they just want the green... I'll just sit on my 1080 that still works just fine seven years after launch and wait for what Team Blue's second gen will bring, I just couldn't get on board with their first gen because of the drivers, but they've seemingly made huge strides and actually care about them so... yeah
after all NVDIA has put us through, this is a green loogie in our face.
I just can't believe how big GPU's are now.... they are HUUUUUUGE XD, I'm planning on building my first desktop in a loooong time and I'm pretty disgusted at some of the high end prices, Nvidia just seem like total dicks these days, I remember the high end being £500-600
I'll stick with my 2070, as I dont require a lot in the long run. Now my little 4 core I5 4590.... that little guy runs at 100% on any game I play, how it's still kicking after a year of bottleneck on a stock cooler is just amazing. I'm cheap sue me. Have $320 total into the PC after the SSD and 16gb ram upgrade.
Still rocking my 3070 ti and still love it lol. For the prices they are setting right now, i will not be 'upgrading'
I went rtx3060 for my htpc build recently but after putting an AMD gpu into my office pc.
Not sure if I will be going NVIDIA again for a long long time.
i wont lie. I gave in because i friggin have work to do but omg it was painful. Really wish AMD would catch up in certain areas so broham wouldnt be stuck with nvidia. For references, i do a lot of stuff with unreal engine, so thats what kinds keeps me stuck with nvidia
That Gears of war 5 benchmark result seems off. Are you sure that you didn't get the 4070 and 4070 Ti mixed up? Why is the 4070 much better than the 4070 Ti ?
okay so I haven't been around in a minute but jays lookin good! is it the glasses? the hair?
Performance is getting to the point where I don't even care. My 6800xt gets me 4k60 max in most games except the most demanding. Most times I just adjust the resolution modifier down to like 80-90% and it's smooth and it's an unnoticeable difference on a 65 inch 4k tv. I could see myself using this card for years. I don't even care about higher refresh rates in most games (Dead Cells is the one I love on higher refresh though) because I play with a controller and 60fps is smooth enough for the turning speed in most 3d games.
i have a 1080ti and runs things great in 2k would love to get another 80 like 4080 but who has £1500 to spend on one gpu, ill wait till the 50 series is out the 4080 should be hopefully cheaper then. £1500 for a 4080 when the 4090 is the flag ship card is just far to expensive for 90% of people
on a 1080 ti currently, its great but aint no way im funding NVIDIA with a 30 or 40 series. will be looking amd
im over the 40's already waiting on the 50's if pricing does not change im switching
Yeah, I'm more of the "what's the performance without dlss3" as a new tech is always buggy and unsupported in most old and brand new games.
I'm also curious, what would you recommend for non dlss and non raytraced gaming.
Is the gears 5 chart correct? There's a 4070Ti TUF in there and it's getting smoked by the 4070 FE.
If that was a $499 card, I would almost certainly go out and buy one. For now, Ill look for a good deal on a lower card or a used card somewhere.
The biggest thing that sucks about this is that I do a lot of 3d work in blender, and rtx cores greatly improve real-time cycles rendering. And I'm fs in the market for an upgrade considering that I have a 2060 and a ryzen 9 5950x. That's a pretty big bottleneck. Though, if price-to-perf isn't there, then I may really have to consider an amd option, and forgo the rtx cores.
I bought the MSI Gaming (non-x) RTX 4080 16gb and flashed the bios to make it an X version. As they are exactly the same. Therefore, I saved some coin.
I have purchased a MSI Suprim X 3080 12gb back in April 2022 for $2495- and this was only $1900-.. Since I run everything in 4K I needed it. The 4090 is such an improvement but for almost double the price I think $3300 was a bit much. Since That is over my monthly salary, my family has to eat baked beans every day. Now I get 400+ fps in rocket league with max graphics in 4k with zero drops
Yeah, I'm still looking for a 4090 or 4080 for my rig. If the 4070 was $100 cheaper, I'd get it