Hi Lee, I learned something today, 6 volt to 12 volt conversion, that should come in handy when I work on my Monarch, love your channel, we had a great time visiting you and jim back in August, keep doing what your doing. Thanks
Great job Lee! I knew you were the right man for the job!! You'll be seeing the Monarch again for sure when it's time to lower it. Keep up the great work!
Great job unshrouding the mystery of the 6 volt positive ground to 12 volt negative ground conversion. Also fine job explaining that the 6 volt wiring is more than adequate for the 12 volt
Hi Lee Shannon and Lux . I thought was not your Ford in the shop in part of your shop last video . Will watch with keen interest later . Two days of Fiber Fest in Winnipeg for Lori and The Fabulous Fifties Ford car show in Winnipeg tomorrow for both of us . Next weekend the Winnipeg Beach car show and the next day the MSRA Toy Run in Winnipeg on Sunday . Things are winding down after that . Lux is going to be a month older soon ... time sure flies !
Ah yes shades of converting my '51 Ford to 12 volts. I opted to change the starter, used a dropping resistor for the horn and another for the radio. Today if your buddy wants to spend the money ( pricey I'm sure) the radio itself can be converted to 12V and the vibrator power supply changed to solid state. While tubes are readily available mechanical vibrators for the 6V supplies are allegedly unobtanium.. Nice job...nice 1947 survivor.
Great video and good explanations! You say your method works on old Fords, but it is pretty much the same on Mopars as well. I did my 47 Plymouth, and the steps are the same, although the instruments are a little different on the backside. One issue I had, was that the starter is so much stronger that it's destroying the ring gear. The centrifugal function on those old starters isn't made for 12 volts, I guess. Later starters push the bendix forward before the starter spins. Thanks from Norway!
Finally! I'm sick with COVID so can't work in the garage today, so I have been waiting for this video all day! Thanks for entertaining me during my sickness!
Thanks Lee you have explained this really well. Don't forget 12v bulbs for the lights in the turn signal unit. My v8 is 6v and I had to change out the 12v bulbs to 6v one when I put turn signals in awhile back. I laughed like hell you doing your contortionist act under the dash been there done that.
Haha completely forgot about the bulb in the signal switch. Kevin will have to do that one, he picked up the car last week and drove it the two hours home to his place
Muchas gracias por compartir su experiencia y conocimientos , tengo un mercury monterey 53 y un chevrolet 51 que me gustaría funcionara como el suyo , y una explicación detallada y precisa
..hi Lee...I'm not gonna be that guy that wants to debate the origins of rock and roll, but there was some rhythm and blues music you could call proto rock and roll going on in 1947, it's just that that Alan Freed guy hadn't popularized the phrase yet......I once owned a 1953 Plymouth with a flat head 6 and a 6 volt charging system back in the 80's, but at that time, my local parts stores kept everything in stock for it, so I never considered the 12 v upgrade...........thanks for the interesting how to.........
If you ever wanted to be that guy, I’d debate with you haha. Music and cars are all I know. My parts store can still get 6 volt stuff. I think Kevin just wanted to convert because of how much easier it starts on 12 volt
Good going lee that's something j haven't seen iron trap garage show on their channel I'm liking your channel better maybe it's because I'm Canadian I find you do things that are relevant not regurgitated I like that you're just trying to show not trying to teach like those Americans need to teach we see what you're doing don't need a long drawn out session I'm liking strongs garage as well and the other good canadian channels make it kustom, half ass customs, bad chad,d.d speed shop, Bennetts customs he's from b.c in Australia
Great video. I'm fixing to do my lincoln and it has the same voltage regulator. I bought the powermaster alternator so what do I do with the voltage regulator?
The voltage regulator is no longer required with the power master alternator. In this video th-cam.com/video/K1SgyHCi0po/w-d-xo.html I cover wiring a power master alternator. I also have a power master alternator on my 47 Ford, and I left the voltage regulator in place so it still looks original, and just have dummy wires hooked to it that end a few inches after they enter the loom.
very good video had always wondered how it was done now i know. all they need to do is make a 12V battery that looks like a 6Volt one and would never know
Great job, Lee. What about the starter solenoid? Should change over to 12v. The rheostat for the dash lights is a stock item. I have one on my '47 (12v system) and am sure your '47 did also. I'm running the original 6v heater blower motor using a NAPA VT resistor. Works great but I did replace the original crusty wires with a new, cloth-covered harness. Had to clean out my pillar light switch too.
Normally I change the solenoid too, but on this car I completely forgot all about it! The 6 volt one seems to be working just fine though, so maybe we’ll leave it and see what happens
I don't really want to paint it. I tried the "comet wash" trick and it actually worked pretty well. I will be doing it again and seeing what more difference it makes
When switching from positive ground to negative ground gas gauge will read backwards . This is only problem I had when converting 6 positive grd to 12 negative grd .
I just purchased a 47 with partial conversion . I'm trying to finish the conversion and need an adjustable voltage reducer like the one you put on Kevin's car and can't find it on the web. Please text reducer info.
Great video again Lee. One question in the past when I've changed cars from pos to neg earth I had to change the radio or some had a small plug that you could swap round on the back. How did it work on this one, cheers
The radio turns on, but doesn’t make any noise. And Canada doesn’t really have any AM stations anymore other than a few talk radio shows. So because of that, we didn’t do anything to the radio!
While the radio did turn on and light up, it didn’t actually work so I just left it as is. Where we live there isn’t really any AM stations left anyway
It is an old tube type radio and the tubes need to have their B+ on the correct terminals. They work off of a vibrator to make AC, run through a transformer to bump the voltage up to around 400 volts. I have used an old 6 volt radio in a 12 volt car by using a big round ceramic ballast resistor. Worked, got hot, but worked. I think I bought it from JC Whitney back in the ‘60s. I was hoping to see someone tackle the positive to negative ground on a tube radio. The caps in the original radio are most likely bad so it would be an entire video on just the radio. For me I would figure out how to Bluetooth my Pandora from my phone into a good speaker system with a big amp in the trunk. Maybe rewire the radio knobs to turn the amp on and off and volume. Maybe a satellite radio. Looks like he used the original starter and solenoid. Wish he would have explained that. When a 12 volt system starts when the starter engaged with the ballast resistor is by-past by the ignition switch. When the switch is in run, the resistor is in the circuit. This helps with the lowered starting voltage caused by the starter. My previous understanding was the ignition coils were the same and the ballast resistor was used to change the 12 volts to 6 volts. I used to hot wire cars by jumping the battery to the positive coil. They ran fine temporarily. It may have been hard on the points and plugs.
The starter stays as is. They work fine on 12 volt. I didn’t do anything to the radio, cause other than lighting up, it doesn’t actually do anything. There is nothing on AM anymore anyway
Good question. The one in my roadster was used when I put it in, it lasted 10 years before it finally died. I replaced it with another used one three years ago. The one in my 47 Ford was in the car when I bought it. It’s old. I converted that car to 12 volts two years ago, and it’s still spinning fine.
I have an old Russian 4x4 Gaz69 from 1969 and looks like absolutely everything was copied from cars like this monarch. I can even recognize some particular parts
Sure I did, the radio doesn’t play rock n roll! Haha I didn’t do anything to the radio, because aside from the light coming on inside, it doesn’t actually make any noise. Besides, we don’t really have AM stations worth listening to around here. They’re all political talk radio shows. Nobody needs to listen to that while driving in a car like this
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Hi Lee, I learned something today, 6 volt to 12 volt conversion, that should come in handy when I work on my Monarch, love your channel, we had a great time visiting you and jim back in August, keep doing what your doing. Thanks
Thanks again for stopping by!
Great job Lee! I knew you were the right man for the job!! You'll be seeing the Monarch again for sure when it's time to lower it.
Keep up the great work!
I’m excited!
Great job unshrouding the mystery of the 6 volt positive ground to 12 volt negative ground conversion.
Also fine job explaining that the 6 volt wiring is more than adequate for the 12 volt
Dude!!! That was great coverage on the procedure how to convert 6 volt to 12 volt!!!✌️
Thanks man!
Nice ride ! Informative video .
My '47 Ford has the dash light rheostat - factory. Used a resistor to supply voltage to blower motor switch - kept it 2 speeds.
Great video on 6-12-volt conversion. Also, the music in this video is TOP Notch!👍👍
Great video. Watt you covered was interesting. I was waiting for a shocking ending though.
Glad I could shine some light your way
Hi Lee Shannon and Lux . I thought was not your Ford in the shop in part of your shop last video . Will watch with keen interest later . Two days of Fiber Fest in Winnipeg for Lori and The Fabulous Fifties Ford car show in Winnipeg tomorrow for both of us . Next weekend the Winnipeg Beach car show and the next day the MSRA Toy Run in Winnipeg on Sunday . Things are winding down after that . Lux is going to be a month older soon ... time sure flies !
What exactly happens at fibre fest?
Ah yes shades of converting my '51 Ford to 12 volts. I opted to change the starter, used a dropping resistor for the horn and another for the radio. Today if your buddy wants to spend the money ( pricey I'm sure) the radio itself can be converted to 12V and the vibrator power supply changed to solid state. While tubes are readily available mechanical vibrators for the 6V supplies are allegedly unobtanium.. Nice job...nice 1947 survivor.
But nothing says “Get the hell outta my way!” like a 6 volt horn on 12 volts haha
Great video and good explanations! You say your method works on old Fords, but it is pretty much the same on Mopars as well. I did my 47 Plymouth, and the steps are the same, although the instruments are a little different on the backside. One issue I had, was that the starter is so much stronger that it's destroying the ring gear. The centrifugal function on those old starters isn't made for 12 volts, I guess. Later starters push the bendix forward before the starter spins. Thanks from Norway!
The ford starters seem to work fine on 12 volt. I don’t have much experience with early mopars though
Friends. Father. Had. 🪦47. Monarch. TIL. 1970. He drove it before eight years. Thanks
Finally! I'm sick with COVID so can't work in the garage today, so I have been waiting for this video all day!
Thanks for entertaining me during my sickness!
Hope you feel better soon!
Thanks Lee you have explained this really well. Don't forget 12v bulbs for the lights in the turn signal unit. My v8 is 6v and I had to change out the 12v bulbs to 6v one when I put turn signals in awhile back. I laughed like hell you doing your contortionist act under the dash been there done that.
Haha completely forgot about the bulb in the signal switch. Kevin will have to do that one, he picked up the car last week and drove it the two hours home to his place
Voltage redoosa'
Ain't no yoos'a!!
Gonna have Dead Boys stuck in my head for three days now haha. Thanks for that
and the best part you didn't have to flash a computer to get everything to work amazing how we go by without a PCM
I’ve never flashed a computer in my life haha
Thanks for the great run down on conversion.
Muchas gracias por compartir su experiencia y conocimientos , tengo un mercury monterey 53 y un chevrolet 51 que me gustaría funcionara como el suyo , y una explicación detallada y precisa
53 Mercury is one of my favorites
..hi Lee...I'm not gonna be that guy that wants to debate the origins of rock and roll, but there was some rhythm and blues music you could call proto rock and roll going on in 1947, it's just that that Alan Freed guy hadn't popularized the phrase yet......I once owned a 1953 Plymouth with a flat head 6 and a 6 volt charging system back in the 80's, but at that time, my local parts stores kept everything in stock for it, so I never considered the 12 v upgrade...........thanks for the interesting how to.........
If you ever wanted to be that guy, I’d debate with you haha. Music and cars are all I know.
My parts store can still get 6 volt stuff. I think Kevin just wanted to convert because of how much easier it starts on 12 volt
Those small round signal lights on the lower front fenders are '47/'48 US Ford style.
These are totally different than 47-48 lights. These are aftermarket.
great segment love the music
Good going lee that's something j haven't seen iron trap garage show on their channel I'm liking your channel better maybe it's because I'm Canadian I find you do things that are relevant not regurgitated I like that you're just trying to show not trying to teach like those Americans need to teach we see what you're doing don't need a long drawn out session I'm liking strongs garage as well and the other good canadian channels make it kustom, half ass customs, bad chad,d.d speed shop, Bennetts customs he's from b.c in Australia
Glad you like my videos Darren. I actually haven’t watched a lot of Iron Trap. I do enjoy Make it Kustom and Bennetts though!
OMG! It's official, you just gave us your first public Dad joke! 😃
I did?!
"Rock & Roll hadn't been invented yet in 1947" 😎@@LGKustoms
Great video. I'm fixing to do my lincoln and it has the same voltage regulator. I bought the powermaster alternator so what do I do with the voltage regulator?
The voltage regulator is no longer required with the power master alternator. In this video th-cam.com/video/K1SgyHCi0po/w-d-xo.html I cover wiring a power master alternator.
I also have a power master alternator on my 47 Ford, and I left the voltage regulator in place so it still looks original, and just have dummy wires hooked to it that end a few inches after they enter the loom.
very good video had always wondered how it was done now i know. all they need to do is make a 12V battery that looks like a 6Volt one and would never know
Some companies make battery covers that make the battery look like the original. Just slides over top
Great job, Lee. What about the starter solenoid? Should change over to 12v. The rheostat for the dash lights is a stock item. I have one on my '47 (12v system) and am sure your '47 did also. I'm running the original 6v heater blower motor using a NAPA VT resistor. Works great but I did replace the original crusty wires with a new, cloth-covered harness. Had to clean out my pillar light switch too.
Normally I change the solenoid too, but on this car I completely forgot all about it! The 6 volt one seems to be working just fine though, so maybe we’ll leave it and see what happens
@@LGKustomson my 52 Meteor I ran the 6volt solenoid with no issue.
thanks for showing
No problem!
I don't know if Kevin will ever paint this car, but salmon on the bottom and gray on the top- two tone would be cool.
I doubt he’ll paint the car. This is mostly original paint, and he wants to try and polish it
I don't really want to paint it. I tried the "comet wash" trick and it actually worked pretty well. I will be doing it again and seeing what more difference it makes
Y block generator is another option for 12 volts.
Correct, a 1956 and newer Y block generator is 12V, however it doesn’t have the correct mounting bracket for the 1939-48 flathead.
Thanks Lee. What about voltage to the horn and clock? I know you said the horn just gets louder but don't you need to adjust the voltage for it?
The horn works just fine as is on 12 volts. Just louder. The clock doesn’t use power, it’s a wind up clock.
my first car was a 1947 Ford Had two spot lights
When switching from positive ground to negative ground gas gauge will read backwards . This is only problem I had when converting 6 positive grd to 12 negative grd .
I cover how to fix this in the video
Try 8volt less to do will crank much faster can use 6volt lights only change is voltage reg
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Keep on rocking in the free world 🤘
I just purchased a 47 with partial conversion . I'm trying to finish the conversion and need an adjustable voltage reducer like the one you put on Kevin's car and can't find it on the web. Please text reducer info.
Sorry but I don’t have the part number. I just got it from a local automotive electrical shop.
You forgot the info on the reducer i.e where to obtain one brand and part number.
Great video again Lee. One question in the past when I've changed cars from pos to neg earth I had to change the radio or some had a small plug that you could swap round on the back. How did it work on this one, cheers
The radio turns on, but doesn’t make any noise. And Canada doesn’t really have any AM stations anymore other than a few talk radio shows. So because of that, we didn’t do anything to the radio!
@@LGKustoms Just drive and listen to the V8.....😀
What about the radio? Doesn't the ground need to be switched on that? Reduce it down to 6V?
While the radio did turn on and light up, it didn’t actually work so I just left it as is.
Where we live there isn’t really any AM stations left anyway
It is an old tube type radio and the tubes need to have their B+ on the correct terminals. They work off of a vibrator to make AC, run through a transformer to bump the voltage up to around 400 volts. I have used an old 6 volt radio in a 12 volt car by using a big round ceramic ballast resistor. Worked, got hot, but worked. I think I bought it from JC Whitney back in the ‘60s.
I was hoping to see someone tackle the positive to negative ground on a tube radio. The caps in the original radio are most likely bad so it would be an entire video on just the radio. For me I would figure out how to Bluetooth my Pandora from my phone into a good speaker system with a big amp in the trunk. Maybe rewire the radio knobs to turn the amp on and off and volume. Maybe a satellite radio.
Looks like he used the original starter and solenoid. Wish he would have explained that.
When a 12 volt system starts when the starter engaged with the ballast resistor is by-past by the ignition switch. When the switch is in run, the resistor is in the circuit. This helps with the lowered starting voltage caused by the starter. My previous understanding was the ignition coils were the same and the ballast resistor was used to change the 12 volts to 6 volts. I used to hot wire cars by jumping the battery to the positive coil. They ran fine temporarily. It may have been hard on the points and plugs.
What did you do to reduce voltage to radio? Also did you do anything to starter?
The starter stays as is. They work fine on 12 volt.
I didn’t do anything to the radio, cause other than lighting up, it doesn’t actually do anything.
There is nothing on AM anymore anyway
Do you have to switch wires on the starter too?
Nope, the starter stays as is. Nothing to change there.
How long will the starter motor last now you are putting12v through it?
Good question. The one in my roadster was used when I put it in, it lasted 10 years before it finally died. I replaced it with another used one three years ago.
The one in my 47 Ford was in the car when I bought it. It’s old. I converted that car to 12 volts two years ago, and it’s still spinning fine.
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Why don't you tell us what Jim was doing? Is he an employee or what is his status?
Jim was making window templates and fitting regulators in a 33 ford pick up
I have an old Russian 4x4 Gaz69 from 1969 and looks like absolutely everything was copied from cars like this monarch. I can even recognize some particular parts
Canadian eh!
You didn't talk about the radio.
Sure I did, the radio doesn’t play rock n roll! Haha
I didn’t do anything to the radio, because aside from the light coming on inside, it doesn’t actually make any noise. Besides, we don’t really have AM stations worth listening to around here. They’re all political talk radio shows. Nobody needs to listen to that while driving in a car like this
Why change the car to 12 volt there is nothing wrong with 6 volts when everything is in good repair. Fix it don't butcher it.
I changed the car to 12 volt because the owner of the car hired me to.
What part of this job was butchering the car?
painful to watch this....
Well, thanks for watching anyways.