As an autistic adult, I watched this with some trepidation, and partway through I realized how this relates to my disability. These things are exactly what autistic folks can never take for granted, because so often we know we are missing context and so are allistic folks in conversation with us. And as a spouse in an “international marriage”, yes, that context becomes even more important to bring to the surface.
Interesting--in other places, too, I think we can see Becker dealing with what happens when we're overestimating what can be taken for granted. Making assumptions is a perilous game on a good day, so bringing context to the surface is usually helpful
I love the idea that we're all just bundles of energy that take on the hue of those around us. (Speaking of hue, I really like the pink gel light.) That each of us are an agglomeration of personalities of everyone we've ever known, who in turn are created by everyone they've ever known. That we despise loneliness, and simultaneously crave it, because we aren't singular entities like our meat sacks would lead us to believe; we are inexplicably intertwined. We fight for balance between individuality and being only part of the whole.
The quote at 17:17 remind me of something I heard many years back. "Words mean what they meant when they were written". I can not remember quite where I heard it but it is always in my mind when reading anything that isn't super modern.
In situations like that class, see it as an opportunity. An opportunity to learn to think and talk faster or an opportunity to be rude and get away with it. Embrace the situation.
This is a very important topic. As someone who thinks of themselves as an intellectual, I have a hard time understanding people, mainly because I am trying to rationalize what they say into various meanings. Maybe I should switch it up and ask what they think about what they say and how I interpreted it instead. It would be good for both parties. Keep up the good work! By the way, I joined the club! I'm excited to continue learning in the Discord!
As always, an interesting and thoughtful video. Part of me has an incredibly long, somewhat waffley response to this. Instead I shall say, thank you for introducing me to Becker and his philology, I shall have to put him on my reading list, and are you familiar with Jurgen Habermas's concept of Communicative Action? A lot of what you said, particularly from the last half/third of the video really put me in mind of it. He has an incredibly long book called The Theory of Communicative Action, but there are numerous, reasonably short but good enough explanations of the general concept available about (online or published). You may find it interesting.
It seems to me this is all well and good, and that it makes most sense when confronted with ideas new to us. But sometimes after listening and genuine consideration, the other person is just wrong. Good faith seems to also be needed from all involved, and that is not always the case. We truly listen, but not always can we discover what is true and what is a con, a hidden agenda, or emotional baggage.
That's always a possibility, but understanding something doesn't require accepting it (so I don't read the possibility of people acting in bad faith as a threat to the method). Becker's approach arose from an effort to correct his "American scholar glasses" when reading and translating historical texts in southeast Asia in order to prevent himself from presenting his own cultural assumptions as a real representation of another culture that wasn't his. So, more broadly, it's not about letting ourselves be victimized by bad actors--it's about making sure that we don't fall victim to our own self-assuredness and then follow an assumption that doesn't represent what's really going on
Conversely, what may seem like a con or hidden agenda can be the other person's "truth". Ironically, even Truth is relative if you look at it from the stance that we can never see the whole picture. We can never know exactly what others are going through. The biggest lesson I learned in therapy is that everyone is always doing their best, even if it doesn't seem that way.
As an autistic adult, I watched this with some trepidation, and partway through I realized how this relates to my disability. These things are exactly what autistic folks can never take for granted, because so often we know we are missing context and so are allistic folks in conversation with us. And as a spouse in an “international marriage”, yes, that context becomes even more important to bring to the surface.
Interesting--in other places, too, I think we can see Becker dealing with what happens when we're overestimating what can be taken for granted. Making assumptions is a perilous game on a good day, so bringing context to the surface is usually helpful
@@WritingwithAndrew To be clear, I really appreciated the thoughts and found your framing helpful! Probably should have led with that 😊
Thanks! And no sweat-I just meant to say that there's even more support for what you said in things I didn't cover.
"Democracy begins in conversation"! Great presentation. Well worth watching twice (with my notebook this time).
Thanks a lot!
I love the idea that we're all just bundles of energy that take on the hue of those around us. (Speaking of hue, I really like the pink gel light.) That each of us are an agglomeration of personalities of everyone we've ever known, who in turn are created by everyone they've ever known. That we despise loneliness, and simultaneously crave it, because we aren't singular entities like our meat sacks would lead us to believe; we are inexplicably intertwined. We fight for balance between individuality and being only part of the whole.
Thanks--for the interesting thought and the light validation 🙂
The quote at 17:17 remind me of something I heard many years back. "Words mean what they meant when they were written". I can not remember quite where I heard it but it is always in my mind when reading anything that isn't super modern.
In situations like that class, see it as an opportunity. An opportunity to learn to think and talk faster or an opportunity to be rude and get away with it. Embrace the situation.
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You’re really good at what you do man. Keep on making awesome content :)
Thanks a bunch! I'll do my best 🙂
This is a very important topic. As someone who thinks of themselves as an intellectual, I have a hard time understanding people, mainly because I am trying to rationalize what they say into various meanings. Maybe I should switch it up and ask what they think about what they say and how I interpreted it instead. It would be good for both parties. Keep up the good work!
By the way, I joined the club! I'm excited to continue learning in the Discord!
Thanks--for the comment and for joining the club!
As always, an interesting and thoughtful video. Part of me has an incredibly long, somewhat waffley response to this. Instead I shall say, thank you for introducing me to Becker and his philology, I shall have to put him on my reading list, and are you familiar with Jurgen Habermas's concept of Communicative Action? A lot of what you said, particularly from the last half/third of the video really put me in mind of it. He has an incredibly long book called The Theory of Communicative Action, but there are numerous, reasonably short but good enough explanations of the general concept available about (online or published). You may find it interesting.
Thanks--I've seen Habermas cited in things here and there but never read any myself. I may have to put it on the list (that always grows...😆)
It seems to me this is all well and good, and that it makes most sense when confronted with ideas new to us. But sometimes after listening and genuine consideration, the other person is just wrong. Good faith seems to also be needed from all involved, and that is not always the case. We truly listen, but not always can we discover what is true and what is a con, a hidden agenda, or emotional baggage.
That's always a possibility, but understanding something doesn't require accepting it (so I don't read the possibility of people acting in bad faith as a threat to the method). Becker's approach arose from an effort to correct his "American scholar glasses" when reading and translating historical texts in southeast Asia in order to prevent himself from presenting his own cultural assumptions as a real representation of another culture that wasn't his. So, more broadly, it's not about letting ourselves be victimized by bad actors--it's about making sure that we don't fall victim to our own self-assuredness and then follow an assumption that doesn't represent what's really going on
Conversely, what may seem like a con or hidden agenda can be the other person's "truth". Ironically, even Truth is relative if you look at it from the stance that we can never see the whole picture. We can never know exactly what others are going through. The biggest lesson I learned in therapy is that everyone is always doing their best, even if it doesn't seem that way.
Can you do on an Australian thought and native and asian Australian focus base
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