A somewhat obvious thing I left out is that it goes more into the favor of elemental/physical damage bonus if your main DPS is a 4-star or using a lower rarity weapon (especially 3-star) as both of those things lower your base attack, making ATK% even worse. Basically, the lower your base attack, the worse ATK% is going to be. Sounds obvious on paper, but there's a lot variables since most units have some mix of physical and elemental damage, and some teams prefer one type over the other.
My waifu is Keqing but I have no luck :( but I have a question. Is twitch streaming the way to go to get money? I'm thinking about streaming that's why I ask
@@Bluminal Don't stream with the intent of making money quick, like all art if you're doing it solely for money it will be bland and very easy to tell it's not genuine. People making thousands of dollars a week from streaming are a minority, plus it takes a LOT of time to build up your audience.
ehm, no. It doesn't matter 4 star or 3 star weapon in this case since your elemental damage also scales from your weapon stats. It's simple physical/elemental is always >> attack if it's element is your main source of damage, regardless stars on your weapon.
Good vid for info. But he's wrong about 1 thing. Keqing should never be all elctro build. Your building her wrong. Here's why. Her ability to turn on electro to her basic attack is by far 1 best things in game. Means she don't have to have it on so she can still crush her same element. She literally has no resistance to her because that ability she has. If you invest electro you take that away from her and limit her overall godliness. If a chr default attack uses element. By all means go for it. But that is not a smart move on the best chr in game. Stick to atk and charged damage and wreck everyone with element or no element.
@@ExtcAtmc u can if u want. But things are so expensive after 40+ odds are you cant afford to have sub sets to change out unless you whale hard. Your lucky to make 1 chr completely upgraded with artifacts, weapon and level once you hit 40. And it will stay that way till like 42 or 43 and maybe you can work on next guy. If this game wasn't so stingy with materials I'd say sure go for it. But even the people that spend 10,000 dollars on game have issues gearing all the main team
Doesn't matter because the sets I'm trying to use always drop with HP or DEF. Update: Still no electro goblet at or above a 4 star ranking. I have received a blue and a white goblet that's it. At this point I am not really using my Keqing is much because well floor 12 and her kinda don't get along (heavy attacks), and Klee, and Razor/Xiangling have goblets.
There’s literally no possible way it’s random. Me and my friends COLLECTIVELY get like 10 HP/DEF main stat artifacts for every one atk/critrate/critdamage/physical/elemental artifact. And when we do get the good mainstat ones the substats are HP and def :)
For anyone watching this as of January 2021, the crit rate soft cap at 80% thing he mentions doesn't exist anymore. So that's good. You can go full 100% crit rate without any worries.
@@AzumangaFan13 I have 97% crit Rate Keqing with 204% crit damage. It took a while and I'm sure I can hit 100% if I farm further. What are you on about?
Having electro on Keqing may work for better if you get more elemental damage artefacts. Second elemental artefact would lower physical attack even more but could boost her electro damage to over 1000. Razor tho, all of his damage scales from his attack and he keeps his physical attack even when using ult cuz 2 damage numbers pop up physical and electro which is scaled from his attack, so the only way to build Razor is attack only. Based on these 2 characters it seems every characters needs to be looked at separately to maximize their damage output. Which is awesome, it makes every character unique.
@@My_Master_Waves if you have constellation lvl 2 on her you can just max your atk stat on keqing since 50% of your atk will be converted into electro dmg.
I’m AR 54 and I JUST now realized that “increases damage against openings effected by (element)” means that once they were attacked by the elemental damage. I’m so dumb. I thought it meant you got the buff if the type of enemy was weak towards it.
@@andrewjamez9741 Notr hard, im gonna hit ar 56 in 3-4 days about 8k Adventure xp away, just play everyday, do you daily commissions first and foremost then your resin stuffs.
@@andrewjamez9741 It's more to do with when you actually started playing the game lol Regarding enemies with elemental weaknesses, aside from elemental shields, there are inherently none. It's all about taking advantage of elemental reactions A pyro slime isn't "weak" to water because "water beats fire", but because water attacks Vaporize which deals 2x damage against burning enemies. You can also deal electro damage to proc Overload
This. THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED. I've been wondering why I'm doing so absurdly little damage compared to others at my level using same units. Sure, different artifacts but also just that I'm building wrong. Thank you so much, dude. Can't wait to get home and build my team a bit better XD
I must be really dumb because I built Lisa with all atk% artifacts when I should be using elemental dmg. This video helped me understand which attack artifact is better for each character, thanks.
Only if you rely solely on charged attacks. Atk is still the best for Lisa with at most 1 artifact with electro dmg bonus. But maybe I'm wrong since this comment is for a sub dps Lisa. I'll try to test an electro dmg Lisa to actually know if its practical but this game is so resin gated that I can't really do that. Edit: I'm running out of talent books she's gonna be lvl 70 for now
@@cakeman4527 Majority of his damage distribution is still physical, even when his stand is up. It's different than say Diluc or Keqing who can infuse their weapons with their element and deal 0 physical damage. His stand providing electro allows him to proc superconduct for physical defense debuff, which is why he's so good.
Ya, i personally like seeing the numbers so i can improve my theory crafting and make future decisions, but sometimes they just get too wordy and make it a damn essay
I personally like having the numbers too. Another good video is th-cam.com/video/3nDFDOrvH6c/w-d-xo.html They imo has the best explanation about the different damages and also explains how the artifacts work (which I found the most helpful part).
It's because the higher your atk, the more diminishing the return is as compared to having another multiplier like electro damage bonus. This is why all atk is not as good as mixing atk/em/element dmg%. This is actually also a mathematical model where to get the most of it, you do want to mostly split the balance between all of those stats. (Simply said, not going into details here).
There are no diminishing returns. The attack is just based on base attack then all the percentages are added together. Eg if your base attacks is 100 and you have two artifacts with 15% attack, your attack will be 130
@@sakuratree1222 lol you are a few months late. there are 100% crit builds all over TH-cam now. especially with new cryo artifacts. you can test and prove it to yourself, its not hard.
I have razor as my main DPS. I knew he was good but after this video, I'm salivating about the thought of a 4pc gladiator Atk% Phys DMG% Atk% or Crit Rate%. I was going to run electro DMG. Thanks for the tip!
@@taymarionscott2233 Yeah that makes sense. But Apparently, Razor is the best physical damage dealer in the entire game so now that I think about it I really should have the physical bonus instead of electro.
If you want increase your basic atttack, you should have physical bonus damage. If you want increase your elemental damage (ulti, skill), you should have elemental bonus damage
Another thing I don't think mentioned in the video, the electro dmg bonus from the cup and Lion's Roar (when it's proccing) are additive. Same with any physical dmg% bonuses, etc. It's great to have 1-2 sources of these, but stacking crit and crit damage is always the biggest boost to your overall DPS lategame. Hence why, in your case, the ATK% piece is way better since it has crit and crit dmg substats, and you already have a source of bonus dmg% in Lion's Roar.
@@HK-kq8he irony is that the same thing happened to me on the venti banner. i got keqing, and then eventually venti. And both were WAY under pity counter too.
Yep i just figured it out 2 days ago with my keqing built, all this while her damage (1850) has been trapped under my stupid electro damage goblet, so i changed it to attack rate, and now her attack is 2300, crit rate 56% and crit damage 141% and yes she slays more than before. And im so happy :)
so tldr: the damage formula goes something like (base atk * (1+ %atk increase) + flat atk) *(1+%elemental/physical increase) so base attack is worth more than flat attack since it scale with %atk %elemetal/physical is worth more than %attack since it scale with your flat atk
@@sunimod1895 Nowhere. Gotta test it. But rule of thumb is that you want to mix your damage modifiers and not just have ATK%. Also as mentioned in the video ATK% increases only care about your base ATK and ignore flat increases like your feather and other artifact bonuses. Crit is another layer that increases your damage multiplicatively based on your total ATK but needs more investment than %damage to be useful. Then there are modifiers like Lion's Roar that I'm not really sure how they are applied. For example Klee's ascension talent that increases her charged attack damage by 50% when she has the little flower around her doesn't actually increase it by 50%. It's much less. So I'm guessing that those types of modifiers are added to some other modifier which makes them less powerful then they look. I've seen vids where Klee's charged attack goes from 4k to 5k which is only a 25% damage increase. I'm guessing the 50% simply get's added to other direct damage increases like elemental damage%.
@@TheGrouch91 I think the most accurate damage formula is the one provided by r/keqingmains and their according discord it has been tested and proven by their theorycrafting team.
Kequing tip. If you are going for all out physical damage then you must not imbue your sword with electric. That's why you never recast (teleport) with your E. When you you throw your E out always do a charge attack to make it explode. This prevents your weapon being imbued with electricity so you can keep your DPS. Also helps when you fight with electro immune enemies.
this was very helpful cause it happened with me as well my Diluc gets outdamaged by my Klee even tho she has way less atk than him, this helped me confirmed why that was happening.
yeah same i always upgraded the feather piece first to increase the flat atk number so other atk% artifacts would give more atk but i guess that is not how it works
Not really, there are many games that do similar stuff, where equipment increases % of the base stats, rather than overall. In the end, it acts as a soft damage cap that can be done in the game.
All flat atk substats and feather main stat get added on at the end in the green number, and don't affect how much atk% gives you. It is still quite strong early on though, when you may not have nearly 1k base atk for a % increase to be better than the feather. I sort of disagree with the video saying that if you have high base atk, atk% gets an edge over elemental dmg though. If your base atk is high, that doesn't change the ratios of atk% to your overall dmg, and if you're primarily dealing in elemental dmg, elemental will almost always be better unless you already get a lot of it from somewhere and have almost no atk%. Easiest way to think about it imo is you want to add % to whichever % increase is lower on your character for an elemental character. If you have +50% elemental and +25%atk. %atk is better. However, if your character isn't super elemental focused, then atk% may be better. I haven't decided if splitting stats into atk% phys % and elem % is actually wise for half phys half elem characters, but I think it might work out nicely if you happen to be stuck with, say, a physical dmg bonus weapon.
Thank you for this video. My friend who is obsessed with Character building is adamant that just cause he Keqing had a higher atk stat than my Lv 90 Childe he was stronger. Failing to comprehend the 90% hydro dmg bonus I had on him...
Thank you for the insightful guide. Diluc is my main DPS, and since his E comes back very quickly, and I have a build that gives him his ulti fairly quickly, I guess I'll be putting as much pyro dmg boost on as possible.
As someone building him myself I warn you of the pain that is the domain that has the pyro set. It punishes you for daring to have focused on a pyro as your main dps you dumped all your resources into (you can still do it but you need to be smart about it)
@@ShiningDarknes true, was trying to get a 5 star artifact in the level 4 domain. Holy moly freaking overload ley line limit my diluc. Glad barbara got his back. Better get your friends help for this domain
@@ShiningDarknes thank you for the tip. I was thinking about that after posting the comment and figured that I can probably try to farm 2 different sets for him. One for pyro, which will be used for everything else, then one for just atk/physical dmg
Interesting video! Just wanted to add that there is no soft cap at 80% for crit chance. Just search for it on youtube you will find quite a number of videos with 100%+ crit rate, showing every attck being a crit.
7:02 actually even if the weapon is 5 stars, having higher base ATK and all, the ATK% bonus from the goblet will still yield smaller DMG than an Electro DMG Bonus would. The reason is that because ATK is counted in the formula earlier, which got calculated against enemy's DEF. But Elemental (and Physical) DMG Bonus is counted later in the formula.
Oh and 1 question...What if the character is using elemental damage like Lisa? Is it still same if I build atk? Or should I add elemental damage bonus too?
so straight to the point, Elemental Damage bonus is best used on mage type, also dps that relies on elemental to do alot of damage. There 8min video into 10secs comment
Not always, if you want a physical build, you can also hit 15 of 20 attacks with physical damage, it’s all about how you time your attacks, late game of course full electro is better but mig game- early game a physical build can be very useful
The only problem with stacking Elemental over Physical, is that when you come across an enemy who is immune to your element, it negates all that bonus damage anyways. With just physical, you're still doing damage, no matter the element of the enemy. This is why I'll always go for pure physical/ATK %/Flat ATK over Elemental Bonus. Can't kill an Electro slime with an Electro infused sword, but can kill it with just a normal sword.
Depends how you decide to use your Keqing, you can build a 3-person elemental team, and use Keqing purely to spam charged physical attacks while waiting for cooldowns to refresh. This may be a better way to utilize her, considering her charged attack damage multiplier is significantly higher than the majority of the multipliers on her Ult, and there is no downtime while waiting for animations to start, when your DPS window is small, you can just get right to DPS, instead of spending a good second and a half animation locked after you press Q. You can effectively build Keqing using an Elemental build only, but just know that there is a time limited to how long she remains electro-charged after using her Elemental stiletto attack, before all of her hits are purely physical. The moment she is hitting for physical damage only, all of the investments you have made into her Elemental attack damage is going to waste. Electro uptime may only be 75% vs. 100% uptime of Physical, since you have control over that.
on my fischl i mainly do basic attack, 18%att and 12%crit rate. gonna change it if i got crit rate mask to 18%att and 25% pyschal dmg. if you want to go thunder set it would be a support. Keqing and Razor change/add electro damage if use skill(mainly what this vid talking about) ex. so for noel go with geo bonus dmg, because if ult her att will become geo dmg.
So wehat i ve learned is Base ATK is your white number: can only be raise with weapon and acension Atk% and artifacts ATK showed as green number Losing base ATK not really bad if you can compensated it with bonus elemental dmg Crit rate and crit dmg good only when it have massive number like 50% crit rate and 150%crit dmg Some char scale with white dmg and some scale with elemental, so choosing the right path to go with in the beginning can save you ton of resin and time Is that the TL DR of this video
What exactly do you mean by diminishing returns? For example, if you had 80% crit rate and added an item with 10% crit rate, you would end up with something like 85% crit rate instead?
@@omamba5105 "Diminishing returns at 80%" or "having a cap at 80%" means that you don't gain as much as normal if you keep stacking it, so is not worth keep focusing on increase that stat (in this case focusing on crit chance when you have 80%). There was a post in the miHoYo forum where someone tested that 100% crit rate didn't crit every hit, and he found the explanation. I will try to find the post!
@@Shhh_94 since Lisa attacks with only element it’s good to put electro dmg on her. Her ult will do nice dmg. You want to beef up her attack also to make the dmg really show.
thank dude, finally got a perfect video, you explain so detail and easy to understand, even tho you kinda talk fast sometime, but I dont need to question anything
This is Interesting honestly 1st character who came to mind in Chongyun His damage varies When Im basic attacking he deals ALOT! More Than when hes in his Ice Circle doing Cyro damage Which gets me thinking that Cyro Dmg up on him is better than ATK %
He is not a good main dps, not saying don't build him but he is far better as a support given his kit. far better to build someone like razor who is physical mostly then use chongyun to give him cryo then it is superconduct city
@@ShiningDarknes Who synergizes with chong anyway? His ice field is annoying as heck for any character with a melee weapon except Diluc. Fischl could work, but his cryo only procs once on the skill activation. The problem there is that Fischl is a single target DPS. Xingqiu/Barbara could work too, but then I should be investing in EM instead of wasting artifacts on him.
minor addition: 1. i can't imagine a situation where you'd run atk% on your cup piece, because in general (assuming this build will be for your main carry character), you'd want to run physical damage% on them, unless those character deal their respective elemental damage 90% oh the time (keqing, diluc, chongyun), in which case go for their elemental damage%. correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe there is no character that has a 50-50 physical and elemental damage ratio. 2. characters like klee and mona doesn't deal elemental damage most of the time. they deal elemental damage all of the time wym m8 kekw thanks for the testing tho!
I would say Venti, apart from his elemental skill and burst, he is physical dps with his arrows, so I would say he is 50/50. I focus on his skills rather than basic attack, but considering the cooldowns, you have to attack physically a lot as well in between.
@@CheolA-i7g innately? perhaps.. mostly? comes down to how you're using her. if you're using her as a main carry, you'd want to focus on physical damage, because that's where a lot of your consistent damage comes from. if you're using her as support, focus electro, because she won't be in the field long enough to even bother using her basic attack. and no i won't even bother considering about cons.
Excellent video! From my experience and from footage of pretty good Keqing players, I can agree that she works best with more attack in a superconduct team, because her damage output is insane due to her passive (more crit damage). Her highest possible damage output comes from physical with superconduct. However, what I've learned is that Beidou works best with lots of crit rate/damage and elemental damage. I've achieved the highest counterattack numbers with boosting elemental, not pure attack, and your video just perfectly explained why.
something to side note I saw tested in another video is that your elemental skill/burst only scale off of your base attack and are not affected by the percent bonus of artifacts and what not, but %ele damage will effect your skill/burst
this vid helped really to understand the game better i tried to inform me on that topic you explained it just perfect now i understand the mechanic behind it ty alot i will subscribe and hit the bell
Just wanted to say, I got used to watching you (thru ur streams) And I gotta say ! I love your streams and videos. Always entertaining. Ignore the haters and let's get to 100k!
I’m glad I found your video. It has provided some thought about how I can begin to approach certain characters that look to benefit more in the ATK% than just the elemental dmg bonus%. And some I recognize I have are capable of either/or route and so forth. I’ve been building my diluc main that with my current setup is capable of causing lots of damage output both physical and pyro so far. Working on getting good crimson witch of flames set lately. I have some like Rosaria and others that I’m facing that dilemma as well so will decide on how I’ll build them on this regard. And I definitely do prefer to give my Razor that piece of Physical DMG bonus I have in my artifact collection lol.
I’ve been wondering this very thing! I’ve been trying to build Chong honestly as a main Dps and no sure if I should invest into my cryo damage goblet or stick with attack %
I would say Cryo, flat damage seems to actually beat out Attack% right up until you get to end-game with a 5* weapon. Also Chongyun with his AOE will apply frost to the weapon of anyone inside of it - I'm not 100% on this but I think it takes his elemental mastery and applies that to the weapon so for Chongyun specifically I think you want to use as much elemental mastery as possible so that if you cycle to lets say Razor for Shatter damage you keep the bonus damage from the elemental mastery. My plan is to use Barbera for Wet, then freeze mobs with Chongyun's AOE, switch to Razor because he's my tanky bruiser to apply Shatter for big damage. He will still have Wet and Chonyun's AOE that applies ice to the weapon, so you can Wet, Freeze, shatter, rinse repeat and any lightning abilities I use giving overcharge for a 50% physical resistance debuff, which is good because thats what Razor mostly is.
im using chongyun main dps(no better character :() and his atatcks are super inconsisent?(weapon prototype rancour) could anyone suggest some artifacts to use😭ar 35 hh like sometimes 500 damage and sometimes 2000???
quick question. did you guys focus on 1 main team? like atleast lvl 60/70. my keqing and fischl alreafy on 70/70. and yet i did not have alot xp books.
@@falcie8505 my keqing is 2k damage (2 pyro+25%) 46 crit chance and 175% crit damage lol. because 2 of my gladi artifact is 5 star and their sub stats is 30%+ crit damage each
@@falcie8505 yes, i tried it myself. and from the discord of Keqing Mains everybody knows that there is not crit soft cap at 80%. They say crit cap is on beta only.
How is this for Fishl as DPS on high level, Physical dmg? Attack % or Elektro dmg Attack % i quess right? since Oz does 22% of her attack dmg as extra dps
I've been using 2 electro dmg set (fischl without constellation), and then I get her again and switch that set for one with full atq, crit rate and dmg and bc the 1 constellation gives an eye who deals normal dmg and its like a machinegun (sorry for my english)
@Lunasa If you are playing Fishl as a main dps, you are going to get most of her damage from basic attacks. So the best goblet for her as a MAIN dps is physical damage. You want attack% on her hourglass, physicaldmg% on her goblet, and critrate or critdmg on your helmet (depending on which stat you need more). If you have about 50 percent crit rate, go for dmg, if you have over 100 critdmg, go for critrate.
@@HenrySavinon but i dont want noelle e.e my team is razor,fischl,maxed out xiangling(yes i pulld her 6 f.ing times) and venti with synergizes really good but i cant go higher in abyss because of shitty artifacts xD
This info has been out for almost 2 weeks now. And you made a big mistake flat atk also boost the white number. So if you have an artifact with a large flat atk number it can be good on some unit! Edit: i was also confimed and tested this week that the crit rate cap has been removed, so you can get 100% crit rate and crit all the time!
@@Korrekteur either crit or crit dmg, if you have enough crit rate from weapon or substats then go for crit damage. For cup ALWAYS go physical dmg % for razor.
flat attack from sub stat rolls and from the feather do not contribute to your White base attack number. they are added in as the + green number.just logged in and double confirmed. Edit... made a quick video demonstrating this... th-cam.com/video/EQnBO9dF8-A/w-d-xo.html
A somewhat obvious thing I left out is that it goes more into the favor of elemental/physical damage bonus if your main DPS is a 4-star or using a lower rarity weapon (especially 3-star) as both of those things lower your base attack, making ATK% even worse. Basically, the lower your base attack, the worse ATK% is going to be. Sounds obvious on paper, but there's a lot variables since most units have some mix of physical and elemental damage, and some teams prefer one type over the other.
My waifu is Keqing but I have no luck :( but I have a question. Is twitch streaming the way to go to get money? I'm thinking about streaming that's why I ask
@@Bluminal if your sole purpose for streaming is for money, it's highly likely that your content will be pretty low tier
@@obumb well I need a new pc so that's why
@@Bluminal Don't stream with the intent of making money quick, like all art if you're doing it solely for money it will be bland and very easy to tell it's not genuine. People making thousands of dollars a week from streaming are a minority, plus it takes a LOT of time to build up your audience.
ehm, no. It doesn't matter 4 star or 3 star weapon in this case since your elemental damage also scales from your weapon stats. It's simple physical/elemental is always >> attack if it's element is your main source of damage, regardless stars on your weapon.
I don't have enough resin to watch this video
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this was actually very informative, thanks!
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Wow, I learned more in this vid than 10 vids hahah
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Good vid for info. But he's wrong about 1 thing. Keqing should never be all elctro build. Your building her wrong. Here's why. Her ability to turn on electro to her basic attack is by far 1 best things in game. Means she don't have to have it on so she can still crush her same element. She literally has no resistance to her because that ability she has. If you invest electro you take that away from her and limit her overall godliness. If a chr default attack uses element. By all means go for it. But that is not a smart move on the best chr in game. Stick to atk and charged damage and wreck everyone with element or no element.
@@YourLastWish why don't you build one item with electro damage so at least she could deal good damage when she uses e
@@ExtcAtmc u can if u want. But things are so expensive after 40+ odds are you cant afford to have sub sets to change out unless you whale hard. Your lucky to make 1 chr completely upgraded with artifacts, weapon and level once you hit 40. And it will stay that way till like 42 or 43 and maybe you can work on next guy. If this game wasn't so stingy with materials I'd say sure go for it. But even the people that spend 10,000 dollars on game have issues gearing all the main team
Doesn't matter because the sets I'm trying to use always drop with HP or DEF.
Update: Still no electro goblet at or above a 4 star ranking. I have received a blue and a white goblet that's it. At this point I am not really using my Keqing is much because well floor 12 and her kinda don't get along (heavy attacks), and Klee, and Razor/Xiangling have goblets.
Geeeez, how long it takes to kill slime??
Lucas Reid a year after the next centuries
Same. I have lots of legendary artifacts but full of Hp and def stats. Theyre useless unless i choose noelle as dps
There’s literally no possible way it’s random. Me and my friends COLLECTIVELY get like 10 HP/DEF main stat artifacts for every one atk/critrate/critdamage/physical/elemental artifact. And when we do get the good mainstat ones the substats are HP and def :)
@@cosmo142 same thing =,= all my 5* is hp def and other stuff i dont need
For anyone watching this as of January 2021, the crit rate soft cap at 80% thing he mentions doesn't exist anymore. So that's good. You can go full 100% crit rate without any worries.
Why?
i read that at the exact same time he said these words😳
@@Astre-u5w me too
100% crit rate means your crit damage is shit.
@@AzumangaFan13 I have 97% crit Rate Keqing with 204% crit damage. It took a while and I'm sure I can hit 100% if I farm further. What are you on about?
Just an hour ago, I was torn between ATK and Electro dmg. The archons heard my woes!
Having electro on Keqing may work for better if you get more elemental damage artefacts. Second elemental artefact would lower physical attack even more but could boost her electro damage to over 1000.
Razor tho, all of his damage scales from his attack and he keeps his physical attack even when using ult cuz 2 damage numbers pop up physical and electro which is scaled from his attack, so the only way to build Razor is attack only.
Based on these 2 characters it seems every characters needs to be looked at separately to maximize their damage output. Which is awesome, it makes every character unique.
Me To lol
@@My_Master_Waves if you have constellation lvl 2 on her you can just max your atk stat on keqing since 50% of your atk will be converted into electro dmg.
@@My_Master_Waves do you know whats better for Beidou? Attack or Electro damage?
@@tsunami3963 electrou
Other people's nightmares: Like horror movies
My nightmares: This guy keeping keqing at low health when he has a healer
my nightmare Last night is Whaling for Keqing but Got only 3 stars and I woke up about 2:43 AM
i got a dream like seeing ayakya and yoimya on the same banner
Maybe Barbara has that book that increases teams atk tho
I’m AR 54 and I JUST now realized that “increases damage against openings effected by (element)” means that once they were attacked by the elemental damage. I’m so dumb. I thought it meant you got the buff if the type of enemy was weak towards it.
Ar 54?? How? Which enemies even are weak to (element) ?
@@andrewjamez9741 Notr hard, im gonna hit ar 56 in 3-4 days about 8k Adventure xp away, just play everyday, do you daily commissions first and foremost then your resin stuffs.
@@andrewjamez9741 It's more to do with when you actually started playing the game lol
Regarding enemies with elemental weaknesses, aside from elemental shields, there are inherently none. It's all about taking advantage of elemental reactions
A pyro slime isn't "weak" to water because "water beats fire", but because water attacks Vaporize which deals 2x damage against burning enemies. You can also deal electro damage to proc Overload
nice pfp
This. THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED. I've been wondering why I'm doing so absurdly little damage compared to others at my level using same units. Sure, different artifacts but also just that I'm building wrong. Thank you so much, dude. Can't wait to get home and build my team a bit better XD
where are you when youre watching this video lol
@@sugiyonotahu AR25. Can't do a lot of stuff yet but even Abyss is hell for me on early floors because my team isn't built properly
Avery Allen I think they asked about the location u r at when watching the video cause u said u r going to go home lol
@@phucdeptrai9017 hehe
@@phucdeptrai9017 hehe
I must be really dumb because I built Lisa with all atk% artifacts when I should be using elemental dmg. This video helped me understand which attack artifact is better for each character, thanks.
There is a page that shows the best builds, artifacts and weaps for each caracther. Its genshin wiki ou some thing like that.
@Jayden it's really not that hard to use google
Well, elemental skill damage does actually scale off of attack stat as well so you weren't doing it totally wrong.
There is Physical Damage on last Attack. %Atk isn't wrong build.
Only if you rely solely on charged attacks. Atk is still the best for Lisa with at most 1 artifact with electro dmg bonus. But maybe I'm wrong since this comment is for a sub dps Lisa. I'll try to test an electro dmg Lisa to actually know if its practical but this game is so resin gated that I can't really do that.
Edit: I'm running out of talent books she's gonna be lvl 70 for now
For phys DMG carries like Razor it's better to have Phys DMG bonus on your cup rather than ATK
Really?
I need to write this down
Same for xiangling
But he just does electro DMG with his burst active and his burst is very spammable so wouldn't electro DMG be better?
what about diluc. pyro dmg phys dmg or atk%
@@cakeman4527 Majority of his damage distribution is still physical, even when his stand is up. It's different than say Diluc or Keqing who can infuse their weapons with their element and deal 0 physical damage. His stand providing electro allows him to proc superconduct for physical defense debuff, which is why he's so good.
"matters how high you are"
*snoop dogg entered the chat*
this vids literaly making everything simple that i understand meanwhile others explain with numbers and going circle explaining
Because algorithm sir. But you're right this one is much simpler
Ya, i personally like seeing the numbers so i can improve my theory crafting and make future decisions, but sometimes they just get too wordy and make it a damn essay
I personally like having the numbers too. Another good video is
th-cam.com/video/3nDFDOrvH6c/w-d-xo.html
They imo has the best explanation about the different damages and also explains how the artifacts work (which I found the most helpful part).
@@authenticinari-fox8164 too wordy and talks fast.
Love the visuals! Helps a lot seeing the difference comparing the two in action/discussion. Summary at the end is awesome too!
“Now, quick question: what gives you more power here?”
The fact that you get to flaunt that weapon in co-op holy-
It's because the higher your atk, the more diminishing the return is as compared to having another multiplier like electro damage bonus. This is why all atk is not as good as mixing atk/em/element dmg%. This is actually also a mathematical model where to get the most of it, you do want to mostly split the balance between all of those stats. (Simply said, not going into details here).
there are no damage multipliers in this game, mihoyo confirmed this
@@LiveforHM you mean dmg is all additive? What I mean is multiplicative vs additive.
There are no diminishing returns. The attack is just based on base attack then all the percentages are added together. Eg if your base attacks is 100 and you have two artifacts with 15% attack, your attack will be 130
@@t_kon because it isnt a more dmg modifier, it is increased.
Therefore it wil have diminishing returns as it is all lumped together and not separare
@@SH4D02 it doesnt work like that because it is all added into one percentage instead of being multiplied separately
Mihoyo already confirmed this
there's no 80% cap right now, they removed that soft cap.
source?
@@sakuratree1222 lol you are a few months late. there are 100% crit builds all over TH-cam now. especially with new cryo artifacts. you can test and prove it to yourself, its not hard.
@@MarceloKuchiki no resin so can u give me a link
@@MarceloKuchiki thats crazy.. if you get 100% then every attack is a crit hit?
@@바보Queen yep
Bro this is more complex than my quantum physics lecture. It is like my mind is gonna explode
Old people shit on video games for entertainment. Here we are doing rocket science level maths. LMAO
LMFAOO dude
Nah this is simple shit, go into grim dawn then come back
@@cyrusvile6622 I've never played Grim Dawn, but does it have about the same depth as Path of Exile in terms of build possibilities?
First time playing gacha? xD
For someone basically just starting out, this is great info! Thank you so much, it's gonna be a lot easier to know what to go for in the future.
I have razor as my main DPS. I knew he was good but after this video, I'm salivating about the thought of a 4pc gladiator Atk% Phys DMG% Atk% or Crit Rate%. I was going to run electro DMG. Thanks for the tip!
I.use razor and keqing I just use gladiator and berserk instead of lighting artifacts just because it works better for me
@@taymarionscott2233 Yeah that makes sense. But Apparently, Razor is the best physical damage dealer in the entire game so now that I think about it I really should have the physical bonus instead of electro.
so it's better to run with physical damage rather than electro damage for razor?
@@khairulafhammuhazar9389 absolutely
He comes to a point of doing so much white damage to enemies that they just get deleted from the game
If you want increase your basic atttack, you should have physical bonus damage.
If you want increase your elemental damage (ulti, skill), you should have elemental bonus damage
It's cute watching this 2 years later
Another thing I don't think mentioned in the video, the electro dmg bonus from the cup and Lion's Roar (when it's proccing) are additive. Same with any physical dmg% bonuses, etc. It's great to have 1-2 sources of these, but stacking crit and crit damage is always the biggest boost to your overall DPS lategame. Hence why, in your case, the ATK% piece is way better since it has crit and crit dmg substats, and you already have a source of bonus dmg% in Lion's Roar.
I’ve learned it! But where do I get Keqing lol.
rate up and normal gacha can give her. chances of that are low though.
in fact, rate up gacha is likely to give two of klee before you get keqing.
@@DarkFrozenDepths i got keqing from klee's banner before i even have 1 klee lmao
I got keqing after 4-5 pulls in klee banner. Decided to stop then after 2 days i pulled again and got klee on 1st pull
@@HK-kq8he irony is that the same thing happened to me on the venti banner.
i got keqing, and then eventually venti. And both were WAY under pity counter too.
@@DarkFrozenDepths oh shit. mine is like 10 pulls away from pity lmao
Yep i just figured it out 2 days ago with my keqing built, all this while her damage (1850) has been trapped under my stupid electro damage goblet, so i changed it to attack rate, and now her attack is 2300, crit rate 56% and crit damage 141% and yes she slays more than before. And im so happy :)
Do u play physical keqing
so tldr:
the damage formula goes something like
(base atk * (1+ %atk increase) + flat atk) *(1+%elemental/physical increase)
so base attack is worth more than flat attack since it scale with %atk
%elemetal/physical is worth more than %attack since it scale with your flat atk
where do you find this info?
@@sunimod1895 Nowhere. Gotta test it. But rule of thumb is that you want to mix your damage modifiers and not just have ATK%. Also as mentioned in the video ATK% increases only care about your base ATK and ignore flat increases like your feather and other artifact bonuses. Crit is another layer that increases your damage multiplicatively based on your total ATK but needs more investment than %damage to be useful.
Then there are modifiers like Lion's Roar that I'm not really sure how they are applied. For example Klee's ascension talent that increases her charged attack damage by 50% when she has the little flower around her doesn't actually increase it by 50%. It's much less. So I'm guessing that those types of modifiers are added to some other modifier which makes them less powerful then they look. I've seen vids where Klee's charged attack goes from 4k to 5k which is only a 25% damage increase. I'm guessing the 50% simply get's added to other direct damage increases like elemental damage%.
@@TheGrouch91 I think the most accurate damage formula is the one provided by r/keqingmains and their according discord it has been tested and proven by their theorycrafting team.
@@praiseastolfo and that is how?
@@TheGrouch91 maybe that's the bug devs talked about, hope she will deal more damage after its fixed
Kequing tip. If you are going for all out physical damage then you must not imbue your sword with electric. That's why you never recast (teleport) with your E. When you you throw your E out always do a charge attack to make it explode. This prevents your weapon being imbued with electricity so you can keep your DPS. Also helps when you fight with electro immune enemies.
I love the systematic way you tested these stats. Also very nice explanations. Thank you so much for this video.
thank you for this video! straight to the point, good examples and exactly what I was looking for
this was very helpful cause it happened with me as well my Diluc gets outdamaged by my Klee even tho she has way less atk than him, this helped me confirmed why that was happening.
Man, I'm never gonna be able to optimize right.
It's not a little topic. It's the only topic I've really cared about since Closed Beta
Thanks and keep up the good work!
I still can't believe that I just got Keqing and she was 5-star today. She is also my first 5-star char. Im overwhelmed lol
Congrats! I got her today too! She's definitely going to be fun to use
I didn't understand a thing on artifacts before, but now I learned a lot thanks Mogawty,Keep makingnawesome vids
Finally, a video that I really needed.
The most important thing in this video for me was atk% not including artifact atk itself (which is stupid)
yeah same i always upgraded the feather piece first to increase the flat atk number so other atk% artifacts would give more atk but i guess that is not how it works
@@UnPackedWolf same, now I need to look over by Bennet artifacts now
Not really, there are many games that do similar stuff, where equipment increases % of the base stats, rather than overall. In the end, it acts as a soft damage cap that can be done in the game.
@@UnPackedWolf yup. But it is still better to max feather first :)
Especially early to midgame where u need flat attack the most.
All flat atk substats and feather main stat get added on at the end in the green number, and don't affect how much atk% gives you. It is still quite strong early on though, when you may not have nearly 1k base atk for a % increase to be better than the feather.
I sort of disagree with the video saying that if you have high base atk, atk% gets an edge over elemental dmg though. If your base atk is high, that doesn't change the ratios of atk% to your overall dmg, and if you're primarily dealing in elemental dmg, elemental will almost always be better unless you already get a lot of it from somewhere and have almost no atk%. Easiest way to think about it imo is you want to add % to whichever % increase is lower on your character for an elemental character. If you have +50% elemental and +25%atk. %atk is better. However, if your character isn't super elemental focused, then atk% may be better. I haven't decided if splitting stats into atk% phys % and elem % is actually wise for half phys half elem characters, but I think it might work out nicely if you happen to be stuck with, say, a physical dmg bonus weapon.
the soft cap was removed from beta btw. This was confirmed and retested by the keqing discord
Man I've been searching for this kinda video for so long but nobody had the perfect answer tysm.
6:08 wait you can hit the tree to knock them down and
Here I was just climbing the damn tree
I love watching your videos because I am always running the same team composition as you making it much better to understand.
Thank you for this video. My friend who is obsessed with Character building is adamant that just cause he Keqing had a higher atk stat than my Lv 90 Childe he was stronger. Failing to comprehend the 90% hydro dmg bonus I had on him...
I was actually hoping for a video about elemental mastery as a stat, but this helps out a lot too. thanks for making the video.
Thank you for the insightful guide. Diluc is my main DPS, and since his E comes back very quickly, and I have a build that gives him his ulti fairly quickly, I guess I'll be putting as much pyro dmg boost on as possible.
As someone building him myself I warn you of the pain that is the domain that has the pyro set. It punishes you for daring to have focused on a pyro as your main dps you dumped all your resources into (you can still do it but you need to be smart about it)
@@ShiningDarknes true, was trying to get a 5 star artifact in the level 4 domain. Holy moly freaking overload ley line limit my diluc. Glad barbara got his back. Better get your friends help for this domain
@@ShiningDarknes thank you for the tip. I was thinking about that after posting the comment and figured that I can probably try to farm 2 different sets for him. One for pyro, which will be used for everything else, then one for just atk/physical dmg
Interesting video!
Just wanted to add that there is no soft cap at 80% for crit chance. Just search for it on youtube you will find quite a number of videos with 100%+ crit rate, showing every attck being a crit.
Mogarty: carry the 5 subtract the 2 multiply the base stats of a level one diluc
also Mogarty: Summery
7:02 actually even if the weapon is 5 stars, having higher base ATK and all, the ATK% bonus from the goblet will still yield smaller DMG than an Electro DMG Bonus would.
The reason is that because ATK is counted in the formula earlier, which got calculated against enemy's DEF. But Elemental (and Physical) DMG Bonus is counted later in the formula.
This is a headache but it made my life easier. Thank you!
After watching this, I think I know what should I build artifacts for my each characters now. Thank you for the information love it 👌
Oh and 1 question...What if the character is using elemental damage like Lisa? Is it still same if I build atk? Or should I add elemental damage bonus too?
so straight to the point, Elemental Damage bonus is best used on mage type, also dps that relies on elemental to do alot of damage. There 8min video into 10secs comment
It's better to have examples and tests in a video to better represent the information as proof than just an empty statement.
Thanks, this is what I need it. I hate youtubers don't starting with what I want, then they can do explanations.
Great video! Really helped answer a lot of qs I had abt the damage system. Thank you!
Well electrical damage is way way more better, especially on Keqing. 20 times keqing hits an enemy 15 of them are electrical damage.
Not always, if you want a physical build, you can also hit 15 of 20 attacks with physical damage, it’s all about how you time your attacks, late game of course full electro is better but mig game- early game a physical build can be very useful
Physical builds delete enemies in seconds.
The only problem with stacking Elemental over Physical, is that when you come across an enemy who is immune to your element, it negates all that bonus damage anyways. With just physical, you're still doing damage, no matter the element of the enemy. This is why I'll always go for pure physical/ATK %/Flat ATK over Elemental Bonus. Can't kill an Electro slime with an Electro infused sword, but can kill it with just a normal sword.
@@infiniteaj8688 thats why you switch characters depending on the situation
Depends how you decide to use your Keqing, you can build a 3-person elemental team, and use Keqing purely to spam charged physical attacks while waiting for cooldowns to refresh. This may be a better way to utilize her, considering her charged attack damage multiplier is significantly higher than the majority of the multipliers on her Ult, and there is no downtime while waiting for animations to start, when your DPS window is small, you can just get right to DPS, instead of spending a good second and a half animation locked after you press Q.
You can effectively build Keqing using an Elemental build only, but just know that there is a time limited to how long she remains electro-charged after using her Elemental stiletto attack, before all of her hits are purely physical. The moment she is hitting for physical damage only, all of the investments you have made into her Elemental attack damage is going to waste. Electro uptime may only be 75% vs. 100% uptime of Physical, since you have control over that.
Never learned so much in ONE video about Genshin. And I'm AR 47 at the time of watching! Great job man!
Everyone were talking about razor and keqing.. How about DPS fischl? Should i build her electro or atk since i use 18%set+thundering fury set..?
on my fischl i mainly do basic attack, 18%att and 12%crit rate. gonna change it if i got crit rate mask to 18%att and 25% pyschal dmg.
if you want to go thunder set it would be a support. Keqing and Razor change/add electro damage if use skill(mainly what this vid talking about)
ex.
so for noel go with geo bonus dmg, because if ult her att will become geo dmg.
Physical damage bonus + crit
I use her as a support, since I got other DPS like Klee or Jean.
But you can definitly use her as a dps
DPS fischl is insane dude
if u have bow called rust and u spam autoattacks go atk if u charge arrow your crow for lightning strike go electro simple
Aaaand... I'm subbed now, great vid man
So wehat i ve learned is
Base ATK is your white number: can only be raise with weapon and acension
Atk% and artifacts ATK showed as green number
Losing base ATK not really bad if you can compensated it with bonus elemental dmg
Crit rate and crit dmg good only when it have massive number like 50% crit rate and 150%crit dmg
Some char scale with white dmg and some scale with elemental, so choosing the right path to go with in the beginning can save you ton of resin and time
Is that the TL DR of this video
This was super educational for me! Thank you!
Thank you, you saved me. This makes so much more sense.
Thanks a LOT for this video! I was wondering this exact thing when going over my artifacts and this really helped.
For crit rate and Crit dmg, diminishing returns start at around 55-60% for crit rate and around 165-170% for crit dmg.
diminishing returns start at 80% for crit rate
What exactly do you mean by diminishing returns? For example, if you had 80% crit rate and added an item with 10% crit rate, you would end up with something like 85% crit rate instead?
@@omamba5105 probably means you are losing other stats for focusing on crit.
I see someone fischl with 76.3 persen crit rate...
@@omamba5105 "Diminishing returns at 80%" or "having a cap at 80%" means that you don't gain as much as normal if you keep stacking it, so is not worth keep focusing on increase that stat (in this case focusing on crit chance when you have 80%).
There was a post in the miHoYo forum where someone tested that 100% crit rate didn't crit every hit, and he found the explanation. I will try to find the post!
What a video, man, thank you so much! Verfy useful
The elemental bonus is for characters that do strictly elemental atks I would assume, like Klee, sucrose, Barbara etc
What about Lisa?
@@Shhh_94 she is like one of the characters commenter mentioned
@@Shhh_94 since Lisa attacks with only element it’s good to put electro dmg on her. Her ult will do nice dmg. You want to beef up her attack also to make the dmg really show.
thank dude, finally got a perfect video, you explain so detail and easy to understand, even tho you kinda talk fast sometime, but I dont need to question anything
This is Interesting honestly
1st character who came to mind in Chongyun
His damage varies
When Im basic attacking he deals ALOT! More
Than when hes in his Ice Circle doing Cyro damage
Which gets me thinking that Cyro Dmg up on him is better than ATK %
yup, I honestly think chongyun is trash without cryo dmg
Pure elemental char like Ningguang opened my eyes to this.
He is not a good main dps, not saying don't build him but he is far better as a support given his kit. far better to build someone like razor who is physical mostly then use chongyun to give him cryo then it is superconduct city
@@ShiningDarknes Who synergizes with chong anyway? His ice field is annoying as heck for any character with a melee weapon except Diluc. Fischl could work, but his cryo only procs once on the skill activation. The problem there is that Fischl is a single target DPS. Xingqiu/Barbara could work too, but then I should be investing in EM instead of wasting artifacts on him.
Short, simple, and even discuss other topic(if you have notice). I like that
minor addition:
1. i can't imagine a situation where you'd run atk% on your cup piece, because in general (assuming this build will be for your main carry character), you'd want to run physical damage% on them, unless those character deal their respective elemental damage 90% oh the time (keqing, diluc, chongyun), in which case go for their elemental damage%. correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe there is no character that has a 50-50 physical and elemental damage ratio.
2. characters like klee and mona doesn't deal elemental damage most of the time. they deal elemental damage all of the time wym m8 kekw
thanks for the testing tho!
I would say Venti, apart from his elemental skill and burst, he is physical dps with his arrows, so I would say he is 50/50. I focus on his skills rather than basic attack, but considering the cooldowns, you have to attack physically a lot as well in between.
Beidou is pretty split, would say 40-60 phys-elemental that goes to near 100 elemental if shes a support
Fischl. Significant amount of her damage comes from basic attack but also from electric once you're 6 constellations.
@@CheolA-i7g innately? perhaps.. mostly? comes down to how you're using her. if you're using her as a main carry, you'd want to focus on physical damage, because that's where a lot of your consistent damage comes from. if you're using her as support, focus electro, because she won't be in the field long enough to even bother using her basic attack. and no i won't even bother considering about cons.
GREAT informative video. Keep the going, love it
Keqing is like 'Mikasa' in AOT..just love her
Excellent video!
From my experience and from footage of pretty good Keqing players, I can agree that she works best with more attack in a superconduct team, because her damage output is insane due to her passive (more crit damage). Her highest possible damage output comes from physical with superconduct.
However, what I've learned is that Beidou works best with lots of crit rate/damage and elemental damage. I've achieved the highest counterattack numbers with boosting elemental, not pure attack, and your video just perfectly explained why.
Mogawty:”your support weapons may not be too high”
My Barbra with a level 40 dragon slayer tome: *Evil Laugh*
Lvl 40 is not high i guess
lvl40 is not high at all
Lol if you level 70 that’s high
me using barbara for charging, basically
@@ao3592 ???? we are not talking about AR, we are talking about a lvl 40 weapon
something to side note I saw tested in another video is that your elemental skill/burst only scale off of your base attack and are not affected by the percent bonus of artifacts and what not, but %ele damage will effect your skill/burst
I wish I got fischl dude, I opened so many boxes yet I have freaking Xiangling c5 and Barbara c2...
Nevermind me im just laughing in c6 Barbara
Lol i got exactly the same
I have xiangling c1, barbara and fischl :D
I wish I had c5 Xiangling...best I've got is c3 Xiangling and zero 5*s at AR37
@@Siberianwolf232 I just want diluc ;-;
Thanks for the video, all of it was well explained without needing to stretch the video, just to the point, loved it!
1:07 No officer it's "Hi, how are you?"
This video fixed all of my confusion great work king!
wow that was actually really helpful,thanks
wow.... u explain much more in 1 videos than other with 10 videos. it helps me a lot man.. thnkyu... btway, are u a teacher???
What is the best place to get "fodder" artifacts (better bang for my buck)??
this vid helped really to understand the game better i tried to inform me on that topic you explained it just perfect now i understand the mechanic behind it ty alot i will subscribe and hit the bell
Just wanted to say, I got used to watching you (thru ur streams) And I gotta say ! I love your streams and videos. Always entertaining. Ignore the haters and let's get to 100k!
I’m glad I found your video. It has provided some thought about how I can begin to approach certain characters that look to benefit more in the ATK% than just the elemental dmg bonus%. And some I recognize I have are capable of either/or route and so forth. I’ve been building my diluc main that with my current setup is capable of causing lots of damage output both physical and pyro so far. Working on getting good crimson witch of flames set lately. I have some like Rosaria and others that I’m facing that dilemma as well so will decide on how I’ll build them on this regard. And I definitely do prefer to give my Razor that piece of Physical DMG bonus I have in my artifact collection lol.
POV : you're watching this in 2021
Thanks for this. I usually avpid these types of videos because I like figuring stuff out myself, but I really needed to know this.
I’ve been wondering this very thing! I’ve been trying to build Chong honestly as a main Dps and no sure if I should invest into my cryo damage goblet or stick with attack %
cryo for most part cause he is usually in his E, you may even throw in barbara for freezing
definitely cryo dmg because he pretty much does cryo dmg 24/7
I would say Cryo, flat damage seems to actually beat out Attack% right up until you get to end-game with a 5* weapon.
Also Chongyun with his AOE will apply frost to the weapon of anyone inside of it - I'm not 100% on this but I think it takes his elemental mastery and applies that to the weapon so for Chongyun specifically I think you want to use as much elemental mastery as possible so that if you cycle to lets say Razor for Shatter damage you keep the bonus damage from the elemental mastery.
My plan is to use Barbera for Wet, then freeze mobs with Chongyun's AOE, switch to Razor because he's my tanky bruiser to apply Shatter for big damage. He will still have Wet and Chonyun's AOE that applies ice to the weapon, so you can Wet, Freeze, shatter, rinse repeat and any lightning abilities I use giving overcharge for a 50% physical resistance debuff, which is good because thats what Razor mostly is.
@@rasmachris94 I think he's using only chongyun for pure dps so cryo dmg and no elemental mastery would prob be the best.
im using chongyun main dps(no better character :() and his atatcks are super inconsisent?(weapon prototype rancour) could anyone suggest some artifacts to use😭ar 35 hh
like sometimes 500 damage and sometimes 2000???
This was very helpful, specially the comparisons. Thank you very much :D
quick question.
did you guys focus on 1 main team? like atleast lvl 60/70. my keqing and fischl alreafy on 70/70. and yet i did not have alot xp books.
Always focus on 1 team/4 character, don't waste material for unit you don't use
Always focus on one team, and within that one team focus on your main carry/carries. It’s alright if healers lag behind by 10-20 levels.
Start building 2 dps, 2 healer if u want spiral abyss, the rest is for party resonance or extra reaction
There are alot of exp books in chest. Most of the time, it's mora that you're running out.
Great video!!!
keep up the good work
Yo dude pause for a minute and breathe lol xD
Another thing to take into consideration is the fact that you can get a psysical Damage cup for those units that primarily uses psysical Damage
So pyro bonus is better for klee?
Yes, no doubt
Ya since she does 100% pyro dmg
E-X-C-E-L-L-E-N-T VIDEO!
Thanks!
there is no crit soft cap anymore.
Where did you see that? :o
@@falcie8505 my keqing is 2k damage (2 pyro+25%) 46 crit chance and 175% crit damage lol. because 2 of my gladi artifact is 5 star and their sub stats is 30%+ crit damage each
"There is no crit soft cap" does that mean the 80% Crit Rate cap isn't a thing anymore?
@@falcie8505 yes, i tried it myself. and from the discord of Keqing Mains everybody knows that there is not crit soft cap at 80%. They say crit cap is on beta only.
Thank you so much for this video. I've been playing since release and thought it stacked this whole time. I'm gonna be making some changes.
How is this for Fishl as DPS on high level,
Physical dmg?
Attack %
or Elektro dmg
Attack % i quess right? since Oz does 22% of her attack dmg as extra dps
I've been using 2 electro dmg set (fischl without constellation), and then I get her again and switch that set for one with full atq, crit rate and dmg and bc the 1 constellation gives an eye who deals normal dmg and its like a machinegun (sorry for my english)
it depends
@Lunasa If you are playing Fishl as a main dps, you are going to get most of her damage from basic attacks. So the best goblet for her as a MAIN dps is physical damage. You want attack% on her hourglass, physicaldmg% on her goblet, and critrate or critdmg on your helmet (depending on which stat you need more). If you have about 50 percent crit rate, go for dmg, if you have over 100 critdmg, go for critrate.
At 7:52 I think the soft cap of 80% crit rate is only for beta, they said it was removed already
how do you even get good artifacts ? i mean im almost ar 41 and still have shit ones,i only drop hp% or def% stuff -_-
play a Noelle bro
God wants u to play Noelle
@@HenrySavinon but i dont want noelle e.e my team is razor,fischl,maxed out xiangling(yes i pulld her 6 f.ing times) and venti with synergizes really good but i cant go higher in abyss because of shitty artifacts xD
Well Noelle's good for Spiral Abyss
@@tsuchan5828 is she? well i've never botherd with her is she like a full dps or support? what artifacts should i use then ?
Yo, thank you very much as always Mogawty!
This info has been out for almost 2 weeks now. And you made a big mistake flat atk also boost the white number. So if you have an artifact with a large flat atk number it can be good on some unit!
Edit: i was also confimed and tested this week that the crit rate cap has been removed, so you can get 100% crit rate and crit all the time!
What would do you prefer for artifact stats on helmet and cup for razor as example?
@@Korrekteur either crit or crit dmg, if you have enough crit rate from weapon or substats then go for crit damage. For cup ALWAYS go physical dmg % for razor.
@@Korrekteur for razor if you can get enought crit throught substats i recommend cr dmg% on helmet or vice versa. For cups physical damage% always!
flat attack from sub stat rolls and from the feather do not contribute to your White base attack number. they are added in as the + green number.just logged in and double confirmed.
Edit... made a quick video demonstrating this... th-cam.com/video/EQnBO9dF8-A/w-d-xo.html
Thank you so much, I messed up my account alot when I was doing good, I got keqing out of no where and I am working on her much love to you ♡♡