Completely forgot to talk about the changes to the limits while fighting Roxas! I will be working on that ASAP and will probably come out some time this week.
Basically the Limit-Roxas is when Sora gains Obliv and Oath at the Roxas boss fight. When using Limits, those keys will copy the Limit attacks and finishes by shooting omnidirectionally. It's a really good yet sad boss fight to deal with. KH3 Second Form is like Limit Drive except there is no Strike Raid, kinda sad though.
I love how you put a little window of footage next to the abilities list to show what the ability was. It's a neat addition and I wish that was actually in the game.
@@LakeItIs actually Zantetsuken uses the "back" of the blade (the side with the teeth) which is technically where the sharp part is (depends on the keyblade)
Just shows how effective Sora's old powers really were. People shit on the controls and combat, but later games will never be as iconic as his original color scheme and moves
@@alpharabbit2353 Oh, his abilities where great, no doubt, but KH1's combat was terrible. Sora was slow and clunky as hell. But I guess that makes sense, it shows his inexperience.
@@stevenhiggins3055 The interesting thing is that the prologue of KH2 gave a nice nod to the original game with Roxas. Notice how his mannerisms compare to Sora in the previous game. Practically identical
These form breakdowns are honestly some of my favorite analyses of KH2 combat I've ever seen. The fact that you not only talk about general strategy, but go as far as to break combos and abilities down to each individual hit is honestly incredibly informative, and I can't wait for this series to continue!!
I love the visuals of Zantesuken. First the spinning of the keyblade, then taking it in a reverse grip before slashing it forward in a fluid, relatively relaxed fashion. :D Moreover, its the strongest single hit attack Sora possesses in the whole game by a long shot. While there may be stronger abilities and combo finishers overall, nothing's more satisfying than being seeing two health bars of bosses evaporate in a single hit because you're just that overpowered. (Looking at you, Zebraman who dares to challenge me on my Lv. 99 Critical safe file!)
I actully always play the game without scan activated because I found it more fun not knowing how long the boss is going to last and I found the enemy health bar distracting so fore me Zantetsuken fells little different than guard break. But I agree it looks cool.
I love how in the thumbnail Donald has his eyes closed and Sora is covering Goofy's eyes. Idk, it would be a pretty accurate photo of them if they tried to take one with the Gummi phone 😂
I love KH2, but it always bothers me how the English translation is weirdly inconsistent with the rest of the series. This is especially noticeable when you compare the names of Limit Form's abilities to their original forms in KH1.
@@hwanniggles187 Also Zantestruken and its counter have insane damage to them imagine with all the buffs to strength how much damage it would do in KH3 and I prefer it to any of the KH3 counters especially if it had the same speed and I frames as KH2FM.
Dude, I'm truly thankful to you for how DEEP into the analysis that you give these forms. Even down to the strike by strike in each and every limit break Sora does in Limit Form is detailed in how how he attacks. I sincerely thank you for taking the time to get this down as a fanfic writer and a HUGE fan of KH in and of itself. Worth bookmarking for later research during writing my fanfics involving Kingdom Hearts at a later date!
Nice video, they're always fun to watch😄. Limit's my favorite form and it's so unique. The design's cool, the limits are awesome, and the combo finishers are just as great. The fact that you don't need a party member and it's so reminiscent to KH1 Sora makes it so good. Can't wait for the next video👌🏾
limit form is like playing a different character, and you need to study it to master it, so i have to thank you for giving us a full study on this. may i recommend boss analysis?
The Hurricane Period is a reference to KH1 Ability Hurricane Blast, Hurricane Blast is a finisher that you spin vertically and Hurricane Period is a finisher and same thing but finishing it with 2 rays of light instead of spinning alone to damage more enemies below
Nice vid bio! This always was my favorite form Just wanted to add one thing that isn't a big deal but still nice Limits actually heal you if your low on health, it heals with each time you press triangle. But still nice breakdown!
Zantetsukan is the sole reason i love limit form, that level of ability to strike something that way is downright beautiful SN: Finishing Roxas with Zantetsukan counter during that encounter is the most insane shit you’ll ever see !
@@Abe01-98 I mean, Bio-roxas himself already has a pinned comment about missing something. You can look at other comments or the video itself for the others.
If you use a limit command when a party member is knocked out after the LC is finished the party member(s) will be revived same is true if you use limits outside of Limit Form eg duck flare will revive goofy if he is unconscious before using it.
0:00 THAT TRANSITION between SECOND FORM&LIMIT FORM though!!!!😆 Not gonna lie this form more powerful🔥🔥than FINAL FORM LOVE THIS FORM SO FUCKING MUCH!! xD🎉🎊🎊VERY HELPFUL!!!
(Still going strong with giving the forms extra meaning they don't have, though this one is a little tough for me) Limit form represent's Sora's inner child, the one most of us have that we haven't lost yet. It's more than likely Sora drawing on the memories of his younger self's adventures, the abilities he no longer uses cause he forgot are in full bloom. They have changed slightly, a change that Sora is doing consciously I think, he took what worked in the move and then improved it.
I found a homebrew Keyblade Wielder class for Dungeons and Dragons. I used this to create a limit form subclass for that class as I don't like it being Anti Form as a choice and rebalanced the class, your videos have been a great help with that. Thanks Bio. Also congrats on having a baby again. (If you even see this on this old video)
A neat little thing about the limits is that they’re actually named after the literal translations from the Japanese version. I like to think that in a way, the english version makes it sound as if you’re using the true form of these moves. Also, one thing that’s not covered here is that during the Roxas fight, alongside normal combos in both base and limit form (and possibly magic, I don’t remember), once you steal Oblivion and Oathkeeper (essentially wielding three keyblades at the same time), the limits gain additional/special animations with the two.
Love the analysis videos. what would be your list of top 5 favorite forms from both kh2 and 3? Mine are ultimate, limit, final, second, and guardian forms
Fun fact: In the original KH and Chain of Memories, the translations Sonic "Blade" was actually a liberal translation from the Japanese version, which uses Katakana to write "REIVU" aka Rave. Also I love the video editing on this :isee:
Since I'm a nitpick for Japanese and its phonetics, the a in Zantetsuken is actually said is said as "ah". Sonic Rave is literally Sonic Blade's name in Japanese. Same with the reaction command names. Last Arcanum is also Ars Arcanum's Japanese name, again, same with the reaction command names. Infinity.....I have no idea where they got that localized name from. Hurricane Period, same thing: Japanese name. Localized name was normally Hurricane Blast. And hands down, Ripple Drive is my favorite KHFM and Limit Form move.
ya know, I sometimes forget that sora is.... kind of a badass the way he moves, when slowed down, is really cool its when its all in normal speed and... well, when everything is happening all at once, you don't really notice it
It may be helpful to use the KH Wiki to double-check on your analysis videos. For example, with the exception of Sonic Blade, the Limit attacks do not have invincibility frames that can be exploited by delaying the followup attacks, as they did in Kingdom Hearts 1; they're only invincible on the initial auto-combo parts of the Limits. It seemed important enough to have to have in your Strategy section of the video, imo. Regardless, thanks for the work you put in these! Your videos are amazing and I'm looking forward to the rest of the analysis videos for the Drive forms, maybe even Command Styles for BBS in the future? 👀
It's not just nostalgia... I don't care what anyone says. THIS is Sora's most iconic design and moveset. I hate what they've done to him in 3 and would love to have his old abilities permanently available, as well outfit customization if just for cosmetic purposes
The only reason I can think of for why Limit sora has a checkered heart in Halloween town, while final has the crown, and limit has the crown in Christmas town, while final doesn’t, is because KH2 didn’t have limit form, the Halloween town forms were made then, so they gave the crown to final, but then in FM, they added limit form, and because the crown is usually his motif, and final was already using it, they gave him the checkered heart. They were able to fix the “inconsistency” in Christmas town because those forms were also exclusive to FM, so they were able to make those forms the definitive patterns
Ok Limit Form is awesome but the fact that it kills your air mobility is a draw back that makes me use it with caution. Fore example against Lingering Will I rather stick to normal Form and use my Drive gauge to summon Stich. Not having glide against LW sucks and Final Form has neither guard ore Dodge roll so In the LW fight that’s only an option If I use it fore a Firaga loop. There are a lot of situation where I prefer to just stick with normal Sora since normal Form is the most balanced form with the best defensive options. Thats why I like summons. They gave you benefits without taking anything away from normal Sora.
Are you holding down the shortcut menu? I believe that’ll bar you from using reaction commands. You need to activate sonic rave and then let go of the shortcut command.
Honestly I often use Ripple Drive after Zantatsuken, than wait until the enemy has fallen back to the ground and than follow up with a Limit. Unless I use Infinity which I can use right after Ripple drive.
Could you mention how Last Arcanum turns the keyblade into a blade of light? That might be the first or one of the first instances in KH where "blades of light" are used in an attack rather than an offshoot of the keyblade itself. Although is the orb of light from Ragnarok/Infinity similar to the orbs that Xemnas and Young Xehanort pull out?
Idk if this would be the same thing as the blades of light seen elsewhere! Those blades of light used by Eraqus and Ultimate Form have their own form. This could be that Sora is not yet strong enough to fully materialize one but I'm not sure! Idk about the orb! It could be I'll have to look into it!
Sonic Rave is Sonic Blade, Last Arcanum is just Ars Arcanum ("ars" means "last" or "final" btw), Strike Raid of course, and Infinity's finisher is Ragnarok. Ripple Drive is Second Form's second ground finisher while Hurricane Period is the first air finisher. Sad that Zantet didn't come back in 3. (also, nice transition yet again.) 6:00 heya there
NinjaWarotMC kinda sad you can’t beat xemnas or xehanort with zantetsuken cuz the last hit can’t be dealt normally on either of their bosses in either game
@@BioRoxas I'd actually love to see those first. Your videos are nothing short of awesome, the production value adds a lot to it, but I'd rather see something actually helpful rather than what is essentially an animation break-down. With boss analysis, people can resort to your videos for tips against certain bosses! Whatever you decide to do, I'll always be coming back! Nicely done.
Would’ve loved if you were to compare Ars Arcanum with the ones of BBS and 3D to see the differences since Sora learned his abilities through Ventus, also would’ve loved a comparison between Terra’s and Riki’s Zentitsuken compared to Sora’s and same goes for Ripplw Drive with KH1’s. Other than that, loved the video
I’ve seen a lot of people wanting me to compare different abilities seen throughout the franchise! I think I’ll do that eventually. I just don’t know when ^^
The reason why i love the form is cuz huricane period Did you knoe that if u use fenrir and negative combo ability u can completly dodge saïx desperation move where he moves very fast while creating lunar fire shock waves
@@BioRoxas if saix starts jumping and doing lunar flames then do aerial finishers with fenrir and negative combo because as you know if ur enemy is higher than you in limit form and u do aerial combos then you will rise very high I dodged saïx whole DM even when he throw those weapons at me i deflected them with huricane blast ( i think it was that way it was many months ago) and i never touched the ground But i cant re cap since i switched to another phone(better one) but im not at garden of resemblece yet Hollow bastion winni the bish
@@BioRoxas When you do roxas situation command the limits all get added in attacks, the core moves still working the same but the extra keyblades adding in special things. with strike raid sora throws all three keyblades, sonic rave his dashes use the other two keyblades as AOE attacks as the spin in a large circle around him until the final command where after the attack they do jabs at roxas. I called them special variants as a we don't really have a name for them but that describes them the most accurately.
@@zaster101 Really? Because i didn't know about that, and i can't find anything about that anywhere on the internet, and Two Become One is supposed to make it so you only go Anti or Final Form. Could you point me to some kind of proof about this? Videos or even just another mention?
@@BioRoxas I can sorta describe it. For sonic rave I know the keyblades do their normal finisher on Roxas (where they repeatedly stab Roxas at mach 1). This is for all of the finishers for the limits as well. For Strike Raid, the keyblades follow the same attack that Roxas does when he throws his keyblades but with more range and no teleportation on your half. For Last Arcanum the keyblades simply add on to Sora's combo, adding more damage to it. Infinity has the keyblades help out in the arial combo in the beginning, and they do their normal finisher when you unleash Shoot, Impact, or Giga Impact.
Oh, I wasn’t trying to be not fun or anything! I just wanted to help you out with your grammar a little bit, since being good at the catastrophe known as the English language can give you a lot of credibility points.
@@Salthat I'm very well aware, that people can be aggressive but as I stated before, when you try to make a joke at the moment, you don't think about the grammar, as long as people know what your saying and it isn't gibberish it's fine, I do appreciate the advice and next time I'll think about it, but I cannot guarantee that I'll improve within a day, but I will try.
The thing I like about ars in 2 is that Sora looks like he’s in control of the keyblade the whole time, while in 3 it looks like the keyblade is dragging him through the air
@@BioRoxas I think it was because of KH3's focus on air combat. Due to the total lack of gravity in KH3, more often than not you'll be midair when using the move, and the DDD version doesn't have Sora's feet on the ground as much. Still wish Sora looked more in control of the Keyblade like in KH2 though.
Ah yes. The clutch form. You are MEANT to do one limit, take some damage, do another limit, and repeat until the drive is depleted. And you get tons of i frames too.
@@BioRoxas Just want you to know that I watch your analysis videos even if I think I know fairly enough about the subject. It's very entertaining to see how you break each thing down and go to the details. You are also very fun to listen to. Thank you for your videos and please keep up the good work.
Completely forgot to talk about the changes to the limits while fighting Roxas! I will be working on that ASAP and will probably come out some time this week.
Basically the Limit-Roxas is when Sora gains Obliv and Oath at the Roxas boss fight. When using Limits, those keys will copy the Limit attacks and finishes by shooting omnidirectionally. It's a really good yet sad boss fight to deal with.
KH3 Second Form is like Limit Drive except there is no Strike Raid, kinda sad though.
@Ralph Caluag there is a strike raid in kingdom hearts 3 but you need to do the guard break with a certain enemy
@@lord_calamitas8414 Oh, interesting. Pray tell me about it.
I can’t my phones gonna die lol
It’s an ability
I love how you put a little window of footage next to the abilities list to show what the ability was. It's a neat addition and I wish that was actually in the game.
Glad you appreciate it c:
Me too. This is awesome
Hahah it looked so good I thought it was in a hidden menu ingame somewhere haha
For sure, when I first played the game, I equipped all abilities cause I could never tel what did what
@@BioRoxas it’s amazing and honestly so sad on their part as Devs for not thinking to do that in the first place. Weird that they didn’t
The costume change image was really good.
For those wondering, Zantetsuken translates to "sword that cuts iron."
Never knew that!! Thanks c:
@@LakeItIs actually Zantetsuken uses the "back" of the blade (the side with the teeth) which is technically where the sharp part is (depends on the keyblade)
I just love how zantetsuken sounds
This form is broken as hell, and I love it.
Just shows how effective Sora's old powers really were. People shit on the controls and combat, but later games will never be as iconic as his original color scheme and moves
@@alpharabbit2353 that is facts right there. Well said :D
@@alpharabbit2353 Oh, his abilities where great, no doubt, but KH1's combat was terrible. Sora was slow and clunky as hell. But I guess that makes sense, it shows his inexperience.
@@stevenhiggins3055 The interesting thing is that the prologue of KH2 gave a nice nod to the original game with Roxas. Notice how his mannerisms compare to Sora in the previous game. Practically identical
Final form?
These form breakdowns are honestly some of my favorite analyses of KH2 combat I've ever seen. The fact that you not only talk about general strategy, but go as far as to break combos and abilities down to each individual hit is honestly incredibly informative, and I can't wait for this series to continue!!
I love the visuals of Zantesuken. First the spinning of the keyblade, then taking it in a reverse grip before slashing it forward in a fluid, relatively relaxed fashion. :D
Moreover, its the strongest single hit attack Sora possesses in the whole game by a long shot.
While there may be stronger abilities and combo finishers overall, nothing's more satisfying than being seeing two health bars of bosses evaporate in a single hit because you're just that overpowered. (Looking at you, Zebraman who dares to challenge me on my Lv. 99 Critical safe file!)
I actully always play the game without scan activated because I found it more fun not knowing how long the boss is going to last and I found the enemy health bar distracting so fore me Zantetsuken fells little different than guard break. But I agree it looks cool.
That move is even better in Birth by Sleep, it looks like a movie samurai Clash
* casually says you actually sacrifice party members to trigger drive forms *
I love how in the thumbnail Donald has his eyes closed and Sora is covering Goofy's eyes. Idk, it would be a pretty accurate photo of them if they tried to take one with the Gummi phone 😂
I love KH2, but it always bothers me how the English translation is weirdly inconsistent with the rest of the series. This is especially noticeable when you compare the names of Limit Form's abilities to their original forms in KH1.
TheomanZero i guess it is drawn up to translation after all, I still call them by name and I’m glad they kept the original names in later titles
That's only the case with 2.5
I actually sorta prefer the kh2 names of them for the most part 😅
I always thought the name changes were intentional. Guess not.
Limit form animations > second form animations
Stuff like ripple drive also looks wayy more satisfying in kh2fm
Plus Zatsansuken is a cooler looking moving than Guard Break. Or at least the KH3 version as it looks dope in KH2
Hwan Niggles guard break isn’t really in 3, something is similar but it’s not quite the same hard ass thrust attack lol
I won't deny that, you are right
@@hwanniggles187 Also Zantestruken and its counter have insane damage to them imagine with all the buffs to strength how much damage it would do in KH3 and I prefer it to any of the KH3 counters especially if it had the same speed and I frames as KH2FM.
@@theoneandonly8403 They're not gonna do that because you can't Zantetsu in the air.
Dude, I'm truly thankful to you for how DEEP into the analysis that you give these forms. Even down to the strike by strike in each and every limit break Sora does in Limit Form is detailed in how how he attacks. I sincerely thank you for taking the time to get this down as a fanfic writer and a HUGE fan of KH in and of itself. Worth bookmarking for later research during writing my fanfics involving Kingdom Hearts at a later date!
I’m so glad it’s helpful! Thanks!
When you counter and you finish off your enemy with Zantetsuken feels so good
Same thing with bosses
Omae wa mou shindeiru
Nice video, they're always fun to watch😄. Limit's my favorite form and it's so unique. The design's cool, the limits are awesome, and the combo finishers are just as great. The fact that you don't need a party member and it's so reminiscent to KH1 Sora makes it so good. Can't wait for the next video👌🏾
I miss this version of Ars Arcanum 😭
Can you analyse the combos/limits in the Roxas fight?For when you get his keyblades?
i remember playing kh2 fm in 2009 and getting limit for i was WTF? kh 1 movesets lets GO.
limit form is like playing a different character, and you need to study it to master it, so i have to thank you for giving us a full study on this. may i recommend boss analysis?
This is my favorite form. Followed by final.
Same xD it’s so good!
Mine are Valor followed by Limit.
The Hurricane Period is a reference to KH1 Ability Hurricane Blast, Hurricane Blast is a finisher that you spin vertically and Hurricane Period is a finisher and same thing but finishing it with 2 rays of light instead of spinning alone to damage more enemies below
Nice vid bio! This always was my favorite form
Just wanted to add one thing that isn't a big deal but still nice
Limits actually heal you if your low on health, it heals with each time you press triangle.
But still nice breakdown!
Thanks ^^
That’s actually the HP Gain ability that I covered in the video! Every time you use a limit and it hits an enemy, you’ll regain your health!
@@BioRoxas ohh I never knew that, you really do find everything lol
Zantetsukan is the sole reason i love limit form, that level of ability to strike something that way is downright beautiful
SN: Finishing Roxas with Zantetsukan counter during that encounter is the most insane shit you’ll ever see !
Also would like to mention that during Infinity/Ragnorak's energy charge you can move around and steer yourself with left thumb stick.
U nailed it c: u didn’t miss anything, Nicely done too
Some things seem missing, actually
Abe he did miss something tho 😏
Which is?
@@Abe01-98 I mean, Bio-roxas himself already has a pinned comment about missing something. You can look at other comments or the video itself for the others.
If you use a limit command when a party member is knocked out after the LC is finished the party member(s) will be revived same is true
if you use limits outside of Limit Form eg duck flare will revive goofy if he is unconscious before using it.
I love this video. It's very informative if you're a fan of KH and it's very professionally done.
0:01
That transition is Smooth af
This in-depth analysis of forms is what I was looking for!
The light on the keyblade during last arcanum also looks like the KH1 ultima weapon.
Sora: "Remember me?"
Sephiroth: "I don't remember such weaklings."
Limit Sora: "Remember me now?"
Sephiroth: "Oh god please no."
Kh 1 sephiroth has a different voice sooo that might explain why he doesnt recognize sora??
0:00 THAT TRANSITION between SECOND FORM&LIMIT FORM though!!!!😆
Not gonna lie this form more powerful🔥🔥than FINAL FORM
LOVE THIS FORM SO FUCKING MUCH!! xD🎉🎊🎊VERY HELPFUL!!!
(Still going strong with giving the forms extra meaning they don't have, though this one is a little tough for me)
Limit form represent's Sora's inner child, the one most of us have that we haven't lost yet. It's more than likely Sora drawing on the memories of his younger self's adventures, the abilities he no longer uses cause he forgot are in full bloom. They have changed slightly, a change that Sora is doing consciously I think, he took what worked in the move and then improved it.
I always loved Limit is because the color pallet reminds me of the very first game and made me a bit sad and happy at the same time.
Your description is so good! People can’t even write stories with description this good
I found a homebrew Keyblade Wielder class for Dungeons and Dragons. I used this to create a limit form subclass for that class as I don't like it being Anti Form as a choice and rebalanced the class, your videos have been a great help with that. Thanks Bio. Also congrats on having a baby again.
(If you even see this on this old video)
That’s awesome! I’m so glad I could help! ^^
A neat little thing about the limits is that they’re actually named after the literal translations from the Japanese version. I like to think that in a way, the english version makes it sound as if you’re using the true form of these moves.
Also, one thing that’s not covered here is that during the Roxas fight, alongside normal combos in both base and limit form (and possibly magic, I don’t remember), once you steal Oblivion and Oathkeeper (essentially wielding three keyblades at the same time), the limits gain additional/special animations with the two.
Ya someone else was also pointing that out about roxas!
I cant believe I forgot to cover that :/
What a great video and editing! Thank you!
Ahh thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Please do more of this videos!!! I just love the breakdown piece by piece of Sora's forms.
I love finding hidden gems on youtube like you!😁
I've been loving this series! Subbed mate
The animations of this game are incredibly stylish and Limit form just proves the point even more
i wish he would go over Revenge values with theses breakdowns
Love the analysis videos. what would be your list of top 5 favorite forms from both kh2 and 3? Mine are ultimate, limit, final, second, and guardian forms
Hmm possibly Ultimate, Valor, Blitz, Guardian and limit just off the top of my head!
Fun fact: In the original KH and Chain of Memories, the translations Sonic "Blade" was actually a liberal translation from the Japanese version, which uses Katakana to write "REIVU" aka Rave.
Also I love the video editing on this :isee:
Mauy there’s only one name that comes to mind when you give out info like that 😏
@@SSlash 🤔
Mauy it starts with a *W* 😏
Never clicked a video so fast
Since I'm a nitpick for Japanese and its phonetics, the a in Zantetsuken is actually said is said as "ah".
Sonic Rave is literally Sonic Blade's name in Japanese. Same with the reaction command names.
Last Arcanum is also Ars Arcanum's Japanese name, again, same with the reaction command names.
Infinity.....I have no idea where they got that localized name from.
Hurricane Period, same thing: Japanese name. Localized name was normally Hurricane Blast.
And hands down, Ripple Drive is my favorite KHFM and Limit Form move.
I think the Limit Form names of the moves are the original Japanese names translated into English
Yep, exactly this. And Genie's Limits were Vanilla's attempt to include OG Sora's Limits.
I've been waiting for this !!
Guard in limit form is god tier blocking
ya know, I sometimes forget that sora is.... kind of a badass
the way he moves, when slowed down, is really cool
its when its all in normal speed and... well, when everything is happening all at once, you don't really notice it
I don't know if it's true but the start for Sonic rave looks like the start off for stun impact in kh3
Oh really?
He may have the same kind of charge in KH3 but I’m not sure!
@@BioRoxas yeah I never noticed it until I saw the video the part when you put both start off for Sonic blade I thought it looked like kh3 stun impact
Bio Roxas your such a blessing to the Kingdom Hearts community.
It may be helpful to use the KH Wiki to double-check on your analysis videos. For example, with the exception of Sonic Blade, the Limit attacks do not have invincibility frames that can be exploited by delaying the followup attacks, as they did in Kingdom Hearts 1; they're only invincible on the initial auto-combo parts of the Limits. It seemed important enough to have to have in your Strategy section of the video, imo.
Regardless, thanks for the work you put in these! Your videos are amazing and I'm looking forward to the rest of the analysis videos for the Drive forms, maybe even Command Styles for BBS in the future? 👀
Oh that’s true 🤔 that would’ve been a good thing to include.
Glad you’re enjoying it ^^
I do have those on the list!
It's not just nostalgia... I don't care what anyone says. THIS is Sora's most iconic design and moveset. I hate what they've done to him in 3 and would love to have his old abilities permanently available, as well outfit customization if just for cosmetic purposes
The only reason I can think of for why Limit sora has a checkered heart in Halloween town, while final has the crown, and limit has the crown in Christmas town, while final doesn’t, is because KH2 didn’t have limit form, the Halloween town forms were made then, so they gave the crown to final, but then in FM, they added limit form, and because the crown is usually his motif, and final was already using it, they gave him the checkered heart. They were able to fix the “inconsistency” in Christmas town because those forms were also exclusive to FM, so they were able to make those forms the definitive patterns
Oh that makes total sense! Thanks ^^
Bio-Roxas it’s honestly interesting seeing what the devs were thinking, also, that’s my alternate account, which is why it’s different
Another great vid, Bio!
Ok Limit Form is awesome but the fact that it kills your air mobility is a draw back that makes me use it with caution. Fore example against Lingering Will I rather stick to normal Form and use my Drive gauge to summon Stich. Not having glide against LW sucks and Final Form has neither guard ore Dodge roll so In the LW fight that’s only an option If I use it fore a Firaga loop. There are a lot of situation where I prefer to just stick with normal Sora since normal Form is the most balanced form with the best defensive options.
Thats why I like summons. They gave you benefits without taking anything away from normal Sora.
Maybe they gave final form the crown in Halloweentown due to limit form coming later in final mix.
No you were right. You said the second horizontal slash, which was correct, it was the third bash, but second horizontal slash
I still do not understand the difference between the different levels of Dodge Roll ability :/
I'm pretty sure it increases roll distance and invincibility frames
It won’t give me the option to press triangle to continue the combo after I do sonic rave
Please I need help
Are you holding down the shortcut menu? I believe that’ll bar you from using reaction commands. You need to activate sonic rave and then let go of the shortcut command.
Ya I was holding down the short cut menu. I eventually figured that out
Man I thought for sure that stun impact was a thing in limit, as a finisher when sora is surrounded
Did this get demonetized or something? The video is unavailable
Quickly pause at 0:13 it looks amazing together
Man chaining zantatsuken into limits with this form is SOOOOO satisfying I love it
Honestly I often use Ripple Drive after Zantatsuken, than wait until the enemy has fallen back to the ground and than follow up with a Limit. Unless I use Infinity which I can use right after Ripple drive.
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Great vid thought
Could you mention how Last Arcanum turns the keyblade into a blade of light? That might be the first or one of the first instances in KH where "blades of light" are used in an attack rather than an offshoot of the keyblade itself.
Although is the orb of light from Ragnarok/Infinity similar to the orbs that Xemnas and Young Xehanort pull out?
Idk if this would be the same thing as the blades of light seen elsewhere! Those blades of light used by Eraqus and Ultimate Form have their own form. This could be that Sora is not yet strong enough to fully materialize one but I'm not sure!
Idk about the orb! It could be I'll have to look into it!
I just gotta say you have a fucking great voice dude.
Sonic Rave is Sonic Blade, Last Arcanum is just Ars Arcanum ("ars" means "last" or "final" btw), Strike Raid of course, and Infinity's finisher is Ragnarok. Ripple Drive is Second Form's second ground finisher while Hurricane Period is the first air finisher. Sad that Zantet didn't come back in 3.
(also, nice transition yet again.)
6:00 heya there
NinjaWarotMC hopefully one of the dlc keyblades/forms will have zantetsuken for some reason
@@SSlash i agree, cant wait to see ppl just brutally finishing bosses with it
NinjaWarotMC kinda sad you can’t beat xemnas or xehanort with zantetsuken cuz the last hit can’t be dealt normally on either of their bosses in either game
I’m pretty sure final form has the crown and not limit cause limit was made later and they couldn’t change it by that point
You should do boss analysis videos. Breaking them down, their moves, punishment, etc!
On the list and may be coming pretty soon c;
@@BioRoxas I'd actually love to see those first. Your videos are nothing short of awesome, the production value adds a lot to it, but I'd rather see something actually helpful rather than what is essentially an animation break-down. With boss analysis, people can resort to your videos for tips against certain bosses! Whatever you decide to do, I'll always be coming back! Nicely done.
My second favourite Drive Form.
The best form to use against the Data battles
Beautiful
Would’ve loved if you were to compare Ars Arcanum with the ones of BBS and 3D to see the differences since Sora learned his abilities through Ventus, also would’ve loved a comparison between Terra’s and Riki’s Zentitsuken compared to Sora’s and same goes for Ripplw Drive with KH1’s. Other than that, loved the video
I’ve seen a lot of people wanting me to compare different abilities seen throughout the franchise! I think I’ll do that eventually. I just don’t know when ^^
I swear I used Limit Form the most in 2 Final Mix, best drive form ever
Pretty sure I did too xD it’s so useful!
I CaNnOT notice any difference between Dodge Roll Level 3 and Max! The i frames are practically the same.
The reason why i love the form is cuz huricane period
Did you knoe that if u use fenrir and negative combo ability u can completly dodge saïx desperation move where he moves very fast while creating lunar fire shock waves
How do you dodge it? 👀 just doing combo finishers?
@@BioRoxas if saix starts jumping and doing lunar flames then do aerial finishers with fenrir and negative combo because as you know if ur enemy is higher than you in limit form and u do aerial combos then you will rise very high
I dodged saïx whole DM even when he throw those weapons at me i deflected them with huricane blast ( i think it was that way it was many months ago) and i never touched the ground
But i cant re cap since i switched to another phone(better one) but im not at garden of resemblece yet
Hollow bastion winni the bish
The revenge value form. Last Arcanum forever.
Are you gonna do analysis videos for summons in the kh franchise? it'd be interesting to see.
I plan to break down the summons in KH3 at some point when I have the time!
Could be summarized as "Limit Form, Sonic Rave, Destroy every boss"
Which is the best keyblade type for This drive?
i was hoping you would cover the special variants of limits with roxas keyblades. IE tripple strike raid
The special variants? I’m not sure what you mean by that ^^
@@BioRoxas When you do roxas situation command the limits all get added in attacks, the core moves still working the same but the extra keyblades adding in special things. with strike raid sora throws all three keyblades, sonic rave his dashes use the other two keyblades as AOE attacks as the spin in a large circle around him until the final command where after the attack they do jabs at roxas. I called them special variants as a we don't really have a name for them but that describes them the most accurately.
Whoa. I completely forgot about that!
Good catch. That would’ve been great to add in.
@@zaster101 Really? Because i didn't know about that, and i can't find anything about that anywhere on the internet, and Two Become One is supposed to make it so you only go Anti or Final Form. Could you point me to some kind of proof about this? Videos or even just another mention?
@@BioRoxas I can sorta describe it. For sonic rave I know the keyblades do their normal finisher on Roxas (where they repeatedly stab Roxas at mach 1). This is for all of the finishers for the limits as well. For Strike Raid, the keyblades follow the same attack that Roxas does when he throws his keyblades but with more range and no teleportation on your half. For Last Arcanum the keyblades simply add on to Sora's combo, adding more damage to it. Infinity has the keyblades help out in the arial combo in the beginning, and they do their normal finisher when you unleash Shoot, Impact, or Giga Impact.
This form has gotten me out of some sticky situations
For real! This is the "Oh shit!" form haha
@@BioRoxas no lie for real it has. Especially on Lingering Will 😭😭😭
Yeah your vids are sick bruh keep at it~
Can you do a breakdown of KH1 Sora?
Dont forget that last strike raid tracks enemies
I like to think this is Sora's version of Devil Trigger
Bio-roxas: I Love limit form
So your saying your bias against all the other forms except limit form, HMMMMMMM??
(Joking by the way)
Sorry for being “that guy,” but you were meant to use “you’re” instead of “your.”
(You’re=You are.)
@@Salthat well, when your making joke, you don't think about grammar...no offense but a wise man once told me "You must be very fun at party's." 👀
Oh, I wasn’t trying to be not fun or anything!
I just wanted to help you out with your grammar a little bit, since being good at the catastrophe known as the English language can give you a lot of credibility points.
Also, please do take my unwanted advice, since you don’t really seem to be doing that.
People can be very aggressive.
@@Salthat I'm very well aware, that people can be aggressive but as I stated before, when you try to make a joke at the moment, you don't think about the grammar, as long as people know what your saying and it isn't gibberish it's fine, I do appreciate the advice and next time I'll think about it, but I cannot guarantee that I'll improve within a day, but I will try.
So on the regular kh2 there is no limit form?
Nope. It was added in FM, mostly because people hated that Sora didn't have Dodge Roll.
Why doesn’t Sora relearn these combos
The thing I like about ars in 2 is that Sora looks like he’s in control of the keyblade the whole time, while in 3 it looks like the keyblade is dragging him through the air
I’m not sure why they decided to go with the DDD version of Ars in KH3 or a variant of it at least.
All i can see now is sora clinging onto the keyblade screaming as it drags him around at mach speed.
@@BioRoxas I think it was because of KH3's focus on air combat. Due to the total lack of gravity in KH3, more often than not you'll be midair when using the move, and the DDD version doesn't have Sora's feet on the ground as much. Still wish Sora looked more in control of the Keyblade like in KH2 though.
I would not recommend putting both roll and quick run on.
Draw!? *Final Fantasy VIII war flashbacks*
Limit form favorite form ever!!!!
i really wanted strike raid in kh3
Same dude. Same
I think ventus has it... But still i want sora to use it once more.
Agreed. Why did they decide to Make Stun Impacr the level 1 finisher for Secod Form instead of Strike Raid...
I think you mean the best drive form
Ah yes. The clutch form. You are MEANT to do one limit, take some damage, do another limit, and repeat until the drive is depleted. And you get tons of i frames too.
Ya it’s such a clutch form haha
@@BioRoxas Just want you to know that I watch your analysis videos even if I think I know fairly enough about the subject. It's very entertaining to see how you break each thing down and go to the details. You are also very fun to listen to. Thank you for your videos and please keep up the good work.
Wow thank you c:
I am so glad they are enjoyable even though you know about these already!
Second best Drive Form.
To be honest
It's kinda just kh1 Sora in kh2 but more awesome
Can't wait for Master and final
Well, yeah, that's exactly what it is, that's what it's supposed to be.