FINALLY! A video addressing the AUDIO production of the laptop, which I find important and much appreciated, Ben! Thank you so much for all of your hard work.
Literally when window shopping new machines, Music Production capability is the MAIN thing I would like to know about and nobody ever covers it! THANK YOU.@@BenGKaiser
I really feel like I’ve grown a passion to this idk why it just feels right I’m usually a very lazy person but this has been something for years I’ve dreamed of started listening and studying different music category’s might sound like I’m just rambling but why not give it a try at least I can have fun doing it
Something to keep in mind as well as the onboard DAC on some Zephyrus laptops which allows you to handle pretty big sessions plugged in directly to the headphone jack. Same thing with latency results, which you can find in Jarrods Tech reviews. The audio interface takes care of both of these btw.
Dear Ben, THANK YOU SO MUCH for covering a series on music production laptops. Been waiting for someone to talk about our workflows and needs for a long time. My workflow - I do all kinds of work from podcast editing (2 -5 audio tracks), audio mixing (8-50 tracks), music production (15-30 tracks) and film sound design(too many tracks lol) I am looking for a new laptop and have been using both Macs and PCs for a while. Personally, I am going to go with a windows laptop specifically the Asus Pro Art Studiobook for my needs. I know the Macbook can be less noisy but at the moment I really can't justify the price of those laptops for getting storage and RAM for my use. I also dabble in some game audio work so working with Unreal and Unity is preferable gonna happen on Windows. The other issue is Apple silicon compatibility, most audio engineers are using a huge variety of third party plugins and instruments not all of which are supported for Apple silicon. So the decision to move to a newer Apple silicon platform brings a few issues. I do wanna mention a few points that might make the job of someone else looking for a music production laptop easier. Have heard from a lot of folks that Dell's audio drivers tend to be really buggy so I'd say avoid that. On Windows, you will need to optimise your system's setting to get the best performance out of your system. For the noise issue while you are recording something, if you are only recording a small number of tracks (4-8) with an audio interface, then as your laptop is simply receiving the input from the interface and not doing the heavy lifting of the A-D conversion.
Hello. Your comment is very helpful. Finally, how does your Asus Pro Art laptop run? would you recommend it? Have you had PDC latency problems? I plan to use it for music production. I have also read about compatibility problems with plugins and operating system version on Mac. I am a sea of doubts. Thank you 🙏
I have a beast of a desktop recording system, but I wanted something more mobile for traveling. Didn't see this video until after I bought my laptop, but it does validate my choice of a gaming class laptop for recording. Thank you so much for looking at the specific application of production/recording.
Most bedroom producers are completly in the box and pull off vocals from youtube or splice if they need. the problem with (fan) noise is therefore not live recording. it simply that noise makes mixing very difficulty also for headphone mixes. It introduces frequencies that will mask issues in a mix and it makes it overall very difficulty to focus on your music. I want to hear nothing but my music when I produce.
I’m not sure how loud your fans are but that has never been a problem for me in any situation. There are many noises in live performances which is where I mostly mix. If you can’t train to focus on what you are mixing/ single out tones/instruments then you may need different exercise’s because it seems to me that fan noise has never been an issue with studio speakers, laptop speakers, or headphones when I reference my mix.
@@Creator_Veeto_PAEACPexactly what u said mixing and making are 2 different things ig he’s saying he doesn’t have the skills for it because i understand what he’s saying. being in the box forces u to have in the box solutions
I do Instrumentals but I'm at the point now where the more Instruments added to the mix it slows down and stutters drives me insane..... so currently I need a new laptop. Great video.
I use the Zephyrus M16 for amateur music production and it works great! I do wish the fans ran quieter so I could crank up the performance, but keeping it in Silent performance mode it isn't audible, and it runs everything in FL studio just fine!
Complex workflow. One area you didn't cover but is absolutely critical is latency and specifically DPC latency. I've been working on a 2016 Dell XPS 15 3sgb ram and no matter what you do, you cannot get the dpc latency under control to these dell machines. It won't run Ableton stably below 256 samples even with virtually no instruments or plugins. Wish I new that before because it really curtailed my live music production made me more an arrangement editing type producer by necessity. Mac throughput is vastly superior but I don't like the price tag or many of the caveats that mac makes you suffer through. It would be a really crucial in future videos to access the newer Dell's for DPC latency and the other rigs to see what can actually run your sessions smoothly at low latency. Cheers.
I've been watching your videos since I started looking for a new laptop. I know that your content is toward content creators such as digital artists, video editors, etc, but I didn't expect you to cover music production as well. I bought the Asus G14 2022 from your recommendations, and I'm producing music using Ableton Live 11, and it's been a joy to me. Definitely going to upgrade the RAM sometime soon!
@@KHACDII my two year old g15 got bricked for DAW use after a reinstall, I tried a new g15, it had the same issue right out of the box... I suspect it's nvidia driver problem. Not sure if I should test another windows laptop or just get macbook. Thanks for the info tho!
@@krisxmelderis hmmm honestly, the reason why I chose g14 over the macbook pro 14 was that I game lol. If I only need a machine for music or media production, Macbook is always better in terms of stability IMO
Thank you for such review. Just wanna add one thing - I would expect that AUDIO engineers reviewers would review the DPC latency values! Since it is a quite crusial for music production at all (especially for real time audio processing). I've tried a lot of windows laptops... and they are quite awful with DPC latencies. CPU/RAM/SSD/GPU - of course, it is mandatory, but if manufacturer has not been optimized drivers to have a really low DPC latencies, all that worth nothing.
its generally assumed that people producing audio on their computers would be using a designated audio interface as their sound card which cuts out latency in most cases...
@charleswheeler3418 I would disagree. Cos all hardware that you're connecting to your laptop use drivers for interactions and transfer data. The more efficient and optimized vendors' drivers (I mean laptop vendor), the better performance you would have with your hardware. That's why even true counter strike or any active shooter gamers are doing the same (I mean optimizing DPC) to get fastest response from the input device (mouse controllers).
One Windows based recommendation would be the Asus ROG Strix G17/15 AMD Advantage Edition. Been using mine in my Mastering Studio for some time now. The reason I chose this is that there's very little drop in performance in the silent mode. I can't remember whether it was one of your videos @Ben G Kaiser or one of Jarrods Tech videos, but there was a benchmark test that showed very little drop in performance. Anyway I bought it and I'm super happy with it. No issues with any heavy Mastering Sessions or even 60-70 track mix sessions, and it runs nice and quiet.
You can get full performance on a gaming laptop without being plugged in to a charger if you go into advanced audio settings on windows 11 and change cpu max and min to 100% when not being charged.
I would use the laptop by starting my online/in person personal fitness coaching (and also do some gaming of course) as that’s my dream job and want to start sometime next year! Even if I don’t win I love your videos Ben and will be sharing this video
You can't imagine how this video helped me, I keep going back to it for years! It's the only video to actually explain what to look into laptops and not only brands, thank you !
Thanks! You've been very helpful, I did not expect to mac win this one for my nearest goal for saving, but it did! Thanks for opening up options for me
Excellet video and I see a lot of comments from people that are more accostomed to DAW and hardware but for someone that's just getting into understanding this vast field, its an amazing video. The comments do help to understand the subject even better so, over all; the video is what it's meant to be, to educate the watcer. Mission accomplished! If there was no video, there wouldn't be comments.
In practicality though, Ryzen 9 is beast for music production... DAWs (almost all) these days can take advantage of multi-core power as well as single core power... Dom Sigalas did a video on this... Very insightful... He did the test on Cubase
I loved this video! you can hardly find any videos on youtube talking about music production laptops and let alone one for windows users. I loved how you easily explained all the information that a music producer will need to know.
Thank u for this useful info specifically for some of us who know some but not everything about the function fundamentals of this laptops specs… I could really use one of them legions to come back to my music since my laptop was damaged after a busted pipe after a freeze down here in TX ,water pipe busted and my studio got the worst so starting from scratch again …best luck to everyone GB 🙌🏽
hey just found this channel and i am super grateful for this video. i've been researching this topic for a minute and this was some great info. i see you're trying to get to 100k subs. let me tell you that upping your presentation would go a long way towards helping with that. better setup and lighting is needed if you want to get more subs quicker. just some advice.
I want to start doing live performances, mainly on social platforms, and I currently use a Lenovo Thinkpad...but one with better specs would be used very well! Hope you hit 100K!
I would use the computer to go to school and get my degree in music production! It would probably be a great leap into my journey as I am very excited to get my degree in music production!
The Lenovo Legion 5 pro (or the Legion series in general) is what I seem to be dreaming of more these days for the shear power at the price point... It's rather pricey (exchange rate for my currency as a factor) for me but it has the power for me... An M2 Macbook air or pro(not the base variant) would be but then again, price. Nothing beats a Mac so far for mobility and their power unplugged
Thank you so much for making these videos. They’re super helpful and genuinely appreciate it. I liked and subscribed looking forward to watching your 2024 video next in just a minute 😊
Great Video, learning a ALOT from you! Before I watched this video I bought a LG Gram i7-1360P from Costco with Iris Xe graphics (32GB, 1TB) that is coming today to use for Pro Tools, but thinking of returning it before I use it. I want to get a “High End” unit like the Lenovo Legion 7i or the ASUS ROG Zephyrus M16 with dedicated graphics. I don’t think the LG Gram a “High End“ for Pro Tools and what catagory would you put it in (Mid, Mid-High, High)? Do you have some newer High End choices with 2023 processors. Thanks Ben!
Thank you ! 👊 I’m new to music production. Using a bad laptop. Saving money to buy better laptop. Doing research and this video is very helpful and informative. I’m having a lot of fun learning. Thank you so much 😊playing with beats and creating sound and music it’s very addicting.
Man thanks for this video. Found the sweet spot for me on accident. Zephyrus G14 on sale, $500 off. For a semi complicated setup using Arturia virtual instruments, Bitwig in place of Ableton and also my Akai MPC One, which is the most underrated Akai standalone. Underrated bc of ease of use the button lay out is awesome. I pick my laptop up tomorrow. From what I understand a few DJs really prefer the Zephyrus. Maybe the M16?
Dude the Lenovo Legion 5pro is what im looking for! Damn! Im an Artist myself and i am working with a 12 years old Laptop whcih has to be replaced... So would be nice to have one of these for real! Super Video, not many on this level out here on TH-cam!
I'd use it for music production, and designing merchandise as well as making motivational videos for people wanting to join the Marine Corps and veterans
This is a fantastic video which has cleared up a lot for me. Thanks! I have a digital mixer which can input multiple channels into my DAW, so I want to use it to create some live recordings, as well as using it for my own stuff at home. My emphasis is on recording live instruments. How much of a factor is DPC latency on real-time playback, and do you have a recommendation for a machine to minimise this?
AMAZING! Great to find a Tek Nerd willing to get into the nitty gritty when it comes to audio production. Also if you are looking for the best bang for buck audio production desktop that is made for super extreme workflows, "Mix engineering from a live environment 32+ channels 10 ish groups and 100 + plugin instances" Let me know.
lol I have a 5 year old laptop with i5, 6GB Ram, and 1TB hard drive, I run Cubase and Fl studio, with numerous 3rd party plugins, never had a problem!!!!
I would use the Lenovo Legion 5 Pro as my music machine: vocal mixing, recording, audio mixing, recording, mastering, making beats. I am looking for a new pc to upgrade from my 2015 pc thats is outdated and it would be very great if I was able to get that laptop.
I liked the SSD vs HDD metaphor! I would add that getting the information from the RAM is like reading the information from a block note on your desk. While reading from CPU registers is like having the information already in your brain :D (But we're getting more into software engineering stuff here 😁)
I've got the book3 360, 13" 1335u 16gb (today).. is the best choose in my case .. I do produce in Ableton live,and use to play live loops with a midi keyboard and I'm musician so I play reading with music sheet, so the tablet mode is perfect, and to do some quick photo and video edits..
Thanks for sharing so much interesting info. I'm gonna buy a new laptop for Ableton live performance. Low latency and smooth flow working are the elemental aspects for me. I'm looking for some second hand stuff under 500€. My options (random / not in order of actual preference): 1 - Dell precision 7520 (i7 6820HQ / 24gb ram) 2 - Hp Envy (i7 8550 U / 16gb) 3 - Asus ROG Strix (i7 7700HQ / 16gb) 4 - MSI GS43VR 7RE PHANTOM PRO (i7 7700HQ / 16gb) 5 - Dell Alienware 15 (i7 6820HQ / 16gb) Could you simply write the number of your option? Thanks a lot!!
I'd use the laptop to further my life by going more into my passion (music production and visuals) I currently work at Starbucks and would much rather do music full time lol
Hello there! What do you think about framework? I just lost 2 MacBook Pro in the last 2 years and I’d like to buy a computer that is reparable as much as possible. Thanks a lot for your great video!
Hi Benji, Love this video and have watched it, and several other of your videos, multiple times. I hope to build a simple recording studio, like the idea of getting a 2-in-1 laptop, and am trying to decide between - a Lenovo Yoga 7i, 16" 2-in-1 with 32GB & 1TB (@1399.99) and - an Asus Zenbook 15 Pro Flip OLED (Q539) with 16GB & 1TB (@ 1119.99) In your Zenbook Flip review, you mention the laptop is really silent on Whisper Mode, which would be great for recording, but i question if i may in the future want more RAM to run the DAW of my choice On the other hand, although the Yoga 7i i found offers plenty of RAM, i'm concerned it may not be as quiet when it comes time to record Both laptops have dedicated/discrete GPUs What do you think? Which of the two laptops would you go with? Hope this finds you well and look forward to hearing back. UPDATE: Went ahead and purchased the ASUS Zenbook. Decided that the complete silence of Whisper mode on the Zenbook trumped the extra RAM on the Yoga 7i for my recording studio needs. fyi: i used the link from one of your your Zenbook Pro 15 Flip OLED reviews to make the purchase, so you should be getting a commission from the sale. Hope you're doing well and really appreciate everything i learned from your vids. Shabbat shalom :)
I wish that I knew about DPC latency before I spent £2,650 on an MSI GE77HX Raider, (i9 12900HX, 32GB RAM GTX 3070 Ti, 8GB VRAM, 2TB SSD). My old £1,650 Alienware R3 15, (i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM, RTX 1060, 6GB VRAM, 512GB SSD, 1 GB HDD), handled far more VSTs in Reason 12 than this otherwise awesome gaming laptop. It can't be emphasised enough how important a system's DPC latency is.
Just the channel I was looking for!!!!! :-) I am on a Mac Mini M1 and looking at either the BenQ PS3205U or the Dell u3219q both 4k! What would you recommend ? Also would it be better do get the PD3220U
..considering buying a Schenker/ XMG laptop for audio..fan noise is always a thing and under maximum load in benches..but you are not running always on 100% Capacity with modern cpu..and usually you can set up different energy profiles..on some devices even a custom fan curve..
Great review you cover everything helping creators with it all! I'm going to enjoy the Lenovo Legion 5 that I'm going to win from you! 🎉 C'mon 100k🎉 So Close 🎉
Great content I really would love one of those legion laptops I'm an audio engineerand could truly be blessed is I had one of these and being a husband and dad of two kids most of my finances go into taking care of my family so it would be great if you chose me thanks oh and I never win anything in my life so that would be cool too 😂 keep up the great work
Exactly what I needed. Awesome. But I absolutely disagree with that thing that Macs have the same (audio) performance as Windows laptops, it is not even close. Even shitty old Macs can handle audio better than most modern Windows machines.
FINALLY! A video addressing the AUDIO production of the laptop, which I find important and much appreciated, Ben! Thank you so much for all of your hard work.
Happy to help! It's taken me awhile. I wanted to make sure I had conducted a lot of research to put out the best guide possible.
@@BenGKaiser I like the style of presentation. You have a nice way of organizing stuff.
true, but I think most people are into basic video editing and photography, that's why you don't see a lot of videos on music production on a laptop.
Literally when window shopping new machines, Music Production capability is the MAIN thing I would like to know about and nobody ever covers it! THANK YOU.@@BenGKaiser
you heard my prayers ! I wish their was more people doing this
Marco! I'm so grateful this video will help you out.
I really feel like I’ve grown a passion to this idk why it just feels right I’m usually a very lazy person but this has been something for years I’ve dreamed of started listening and studying different music category’s might sound like I’m just rambling but why not give it a try at least I can have fun doing it
thanks brother, been out of the business for a decade or so now and was looking for the upfront, nitty and gritty straight and to the point. cheers!
This helped me understand a lot of what I didn’t understand about specs, thanks dude!!
Something to keep in mind as well as the onboard DAC on some Zephyrus laptops which allows you to handle pretty big sessions plugged in directly to the headphone jack. Same thing with latency results, which you can find in Jarrods Tech reviews. The audio interface takes care of both of these btw.
Great input! Thank you!
Dear Ben, THANK YOU SO MUCH for covering a series on music production laptops. Been waiting for someone to talk about our workflows and needs for a long time.
My workflow - I do all kinds of work from podcast editing (2 -5 audio tracks), audio mixing (8-50 tracks), music production (15-30 tracks) and film sound design(too many tracks lol)
I am looking for a new laptop and have been using both Macs and PCs for a while. Personally, I am going to go with a windows laptop specifically the Asus Pro Art Studiobook for my needs. I know the Macbook can be less noisy but at the moment I really can't justify the price of those laptops for getting storage and RAM for my use. I also dabble in some game audio work so working with Unreal and Unity is preferable gonna happen on Windows. The other issue is Apple silicon compatibility, most audio engineers are using a huge variety of third party plugins and instruments not all of which are supported for Apple silicon. So the decision to move to a newer Apple silicon platform brings a few issues.
I do wanna mention a few points that might make the job of someone else looking for a music production laptop easier. Have heard from a lot of folks that Dell's audio drivers tend to be really buggy so I'd say avoid that. On Windows, you will need to optimise your system's setting to get the best performance out of your system.
For the noise issue while you are recording something, if you are only recording a small number of tracks (4-8) with an audio interface, then as your laptop is simply receiving the input from the interface and not doing the heavy lifting of the A-D conversion.
Hello. Your comment is very helpful. Finally, how does your Asus Pro Art laptop run? would you recommend it? Have you had PDC latency problems? I plan to use it for music production. I have also read about compatibility problems with plugins and operating system version on Mac. I am a sea of doubts. Thank you 🙏
The absolute best video ive seen covering everything you need to know about laptops for music production
I have a beast of a desktop recording system, but I wanted something more mobile for traveling. Didn't see this video until after I bought my laptop, but it does validate my choice of a gaming class laptop for recording. Thank you so much for looking at the specific application of production/recording.
Finally
Thanks.
Both PC and apple are great at this.
Rumor is someone is trying to use gpus for vsts through cores or cuda.
Most bedroom producers are completly in the box and pull off vocals from youtube or splice if they need. the problem with (fan) noise is therefore not live recording. it simply that noise makes mixing very difficulty also for headphone mixes. It introduces frequencies that will mask issues in a mix and it makes it overall very difficulty to focus on your music. I want to hear nothing but my music when I produce.
I’m not sure how loud your fans are but that has never been a problem for me in any situation. There are many noises in live performances which is where I mostly mix. If you can’t train to focus on what you are mixing/ single out tones/instruments then you may need different exercise’s because it seems to me that fan noise has never been an issue with studio speakers, laptop speakers, or headphones when I reference my mix.
Also I would like to add producing music =|= mixing music so I am even more confused as to why arranging your song would be hindered by fan noise.
@@Creator_Veeto_PAEACPexactly what u said mixing and making are 2 different things ig he’s saying he doesn’t have the skills for it because i understand what he’s saying. being in the box forces u to have in the box solutions
Unfortunate for me I can't afford the higher end models but I appreciate your video! It was very educational. I will subscribe
I do Instrumentals but I'm at the point now where the more Instruments added to the mix it slows down and stutters drives me insane..... so currently I need a new laptop. Great video.
Same man.. even with one shots the daw crashes almost immediately
I use the Zephyrus M16 for amateur music production and it works great! I do wish the fans ran quieter so I could crank up the performance, but keeping it in Silent performance mode it isn't audible, and it runs everything in FL studio just fine!
Cameron... Thank you so much for the feedback. I really appreciate it.
Hi is FL Studio optimized for 16:10 screen?
Complex workflow. One area you didn't cover but is absolutely critical is latency and specifically DPC latency. I've been working on a 2016 Dell XPS 15 3sgb ram and no matter what you do, you cannot get the dpc latency under control to these dell machines. It won't run Ableton stably below 256 samples even with virtually no instruments or plugins. Wish I new that before because it really curtailed my live music production made me more an arrangement editing type producer by necessity. Mac throughput is vastly superior but I don't like the price tag or many of the caveats that mac makes you suffer through. It would be a really crucial in future videos to access the newer Dell's for DPC latency and the other rigs to see what can actually run your sessions smoothly at low latency. Cheers.
I've been watching your videos since I started looking for a new laptop. I know that your content is toward content creators such as digital artists, video editors, etc, but I didn't expect you to cover music production as well. I bought the Asus G14 2022 from your recommendations, and I'm producing music using Ableton Live 11, and it's been a joy to me. Definitely going to upgrade the RAM sometime soon!
Awesome!!! I am so glad the G14 is working out well for you. You made a great choice.
hey, is it all amd version? have you had any latency issues with latest updates?
@@krisxmelderis yeah it's all AMD, and so far no issue with latency or anything
@@KHACDII my two year old g15 got bricked for DAW use after a reinstall, I tried a new g15, it had the same issue right out of the box... I suspect it's nvidia driver problem. Not sure if I should test another windows laptop or just get macbook. Thanks for the info tho!
@@krisxmelderis hmmm honestly, the reason why I chose g14 over the macbook pro 14 was that I game lol. If I only need a machine for music or media production, Macbook is always better in terms of stability IMO
Thank you for such review. Just wanna add one thing - I would expect that AUDIO engineers reviewers would review the DPC latency values! Since it is a quite crusial for music production at all (especially for real time audio processing).
I've tried a lot of windows laptops... and they are quite awful with DPC latencies.
CPU/RAM/SSD/GPU - of course, it is mandatory, but if manufacturer has not been optimized drivers to have a really low DPC latencies, all that worth nothing.
Yes pls
My MSI GE77HX Rider's high DPC latency has hamstrung my music production. It's just a hobby for me but that was a very expensive mistake I made.
its generally assumed that people producing audio on their computers would be using a designated audio interface as their sound card which cuts out latency in most cases...
@charleswheeler3418 I would disagree. Cos all hardware that you're connecting to your laptop use drivers for interactions and transfer data. The more efficient and optimized vendors' drivers (I mean laptop vendor), the better performance you would have with your hardware.
That's why even true counter strike or any active shooter gamers are doing the same (I mean optimizing DPC) to get fastest response from the input device (mouse controllers).
Wow, wasn't expecting this video but its perfect - looking for a new machine this month for audio, thanks!
Happy to help! Trying to expand my video catalog to include more creative professions.
Haven't finished watching but have learnt so much, thanks for making this video and sharing all the info included here!
100k I’m with you. The best breakdown I’ve seen so far. We’ll done 👍 Cheers!
One Windows based recommendation would be the Asus ROG Strix G17/15 AMD Advantage Edition. Been using mine in my Mastering Studio for some time now. The reason I chose this is that there's very little drop in performance in the silent mode. I can't remember whether it was one of your videos @Ben G Kaiser or one of Jarrods Tech videos, but there was a benchmark test that showed very little drop in performance. Anyway I bought it and I'm super happy with it. No issues with any heavy Mastering Sessions or even 60-70 track mix sessions, and it runs nice and quiet.
does it make noise during recording? fan noise i mean
@@GNORMIN none at all, the only time I hear it is with a very dense mix and hundreds of plugins, and even then it’s temporary.
You can get full performance on a gaming laptop without being plugged in to a charger if you go into advanced audio settings on windows 11 and change cpu max and min to 100% when not being charged.
I would use the laptop by starting my online/in person personal fitness coaching (and also do some gaming of course) as that’s my dream job and want to start sometime next year! Even if I don’t win I love your videos Ben and will be sharing this video
I love it! That would be a great use of the laptop for sure.
You can't imagine how this video helped me, I keep going back to it for years! It's the only video to actually explain what to look into laptops and not only brands, thank you !
Thanks! You've been very helpful, I did not expect to mac win this one for my nearest goal for saving, but it did! Thanks for opening up options for me
Excellet video and I see a lot of comments from people that are more accostomed to DAW and hardware but for someone that's just getting into understanding this vast field, its an amazing video. The comments do help to understand the subject even better so, over all; the video is what it's meant to be, to educate the watcer. Mission accomplished! If there was no video, there wouldn't be comments.
In practicality though, Ryzen 9 is beast for music production... DAWs (almost all) these days can take advantage of multi-core power as well as single core power...
Dom Sigalas did a video on this... Very insightful... He did the test on Cubase
Does it have a lot of fan noise? How is it on FL?
Thanks for the info! :)
I loved this video! you can hardly find any videos on youtube talking about music production laptops and let alone one for windows users. I loved how you easily explained all the information that a music producer will need to know.
Awesome! So glad you found it SO helpful.
Facts
I was Searching for this thanks man
No problem 👍 Glad I could help.
@@BenGKaiser Thanks Man Should I go for Lenovo legion 5 Rtx 3060 Ryzen 5 6600H For Music production and gaming also ?
im in Australia im late, i shared it with my neighbors next door, thanks for the vid brother.
Thank u for this useful info specifically for some of us who know some but not everything about the function fundamentals of this laptops specs… I could really use one of them legions to come back to my music since my laptop was damaged after a busted pipe after a freeze down here in TX ,water pipe busted and my studio got the worst so starting from scratch again …best luck to everyone GB 🙌🏽
This guy really explained everything very well. Deserve a sub. Thanks for this.
Thanks Ben very helpful looking to upgrade my laptop this help a ton!!
Nice video man. Thanks for the heads up .
Would love to hear some latency resolving tips for the zephyrus M16 asus
You using an audio interface? They help tremendously.
For many latency is huge, but there are so many variables.
hey just found this channel and i am super grateful for this video. i've been researching this topic for a minute and this was some great info. i see you're trying to get to 100k subs. let me tell you that upping your presentation would go a long way towards helping with that. better setup and lighting is needed if you want to get more subs quicker. just some advice.
I want to start doing live performances, mainly on social platforms, and I currently use a Lenovo Thinkpad...but one with better specs would be used very well! Hope you hit 100K!
This tutorial helps me a lot to decide what to buy for my home recording studio! ❤
I would use the computer to go to school and get my degree in music production! It would probably be a great leap into my journey as I am very excited to get my degree in music production!
I would definitely start making music again . I will hopefully have a laptop soon. Working on it lol. Love this content
great video! woulda been nice if you'd also mentioned which windows laptops from the list are the quietest
The Lenovo Legion 5 pro (or the Legion series in general) is what I seem to be dreaming of more these days for the shear power at the price point... It's rather pricey (exchange rate for my currency as a factor) for me but it has the power for me... An M2 Macbook air or pro(not the base variant) would be but then again, price. Nothing beats a Mac so far for mobility and their power unplugged
Did you buy it? How's the performance? Does it have a lot of fan noise during recording ?
@@GNORMIN i have a Legion 5 pro but im considering to sell it. From my experience i would recommend it for music production
@@beatsbyspace7890 Why are you selling it ?
Thank you so much for making these videos. They’re super helpful and genuinely appreciate it. I liked and subscribed looking forward to watching your 2024 video next in just a minute 😊
Great Video, learning a ALOT from you! Before I watched this video I bought a LG Gram i7-1360P from Costco with Iris Xe graphics (32GB, 1TB) that is coming today to use for Pro Tools, but thinking of returning it before I use it. I want to get a “High End” unit like the Lenovo Legion 7i or the ASUS ROG Zephyrus M16 with dedicated graphics. I don’t think the LG Gram a “High End“ for Pro Tools and what catagory would you put it in (Mid, Mid-High, High)? Do you have some newer High End choices with 2023 processors. Thanks Ben!
I’m looking for a “Higher End” laptop, not “High End”. Thanks
Thank you ! 👊 I’m new to music production. Using a bad laptop. Saving money to buy better laptop. Doing research and this video is very helpful and informative. I’m having a lot of fun learning. Thank you so much 😊playing with beats and creating sound and music it’s very addicting.
Great tips to choose based on need. Well done Ben!
Glad it was helpful!
Man thanks for this video. Found the sweet spot for me on accident. Zephyrus G14 on sale, $500 off. For a semi complicated setup using Arturia virtual instruments, Bitwig in place of Ableton and also my Akai MPC One, which is the most underrated Akai standalone. Underrated bc of ease of use the button lay out is awesome. I pick my laptop up tomorrow. From what I understand a few DJs really prefer the Zephyrus. Maybe the M16?
Very useful, thank you. The only thing I missed some comment about the M1 and M2 compatibility with DAW and plugins.
There is not problem with that anymore. Practically every big plugin developer company are fully m1 compatible at this moment.
The one I was looking at is smack dab in the high end section. Got my answer, cool!
Thanks for the breakdown bro! Really helpfully. Still undecided tho 😂
Dude the Lenovo Legion 5pro is what im looking for! Damn! Im an Artist myself and i am working with a 12 years old Laptop whcih has to be replaced... So would be nice to have one of these for real! Super Video, not many on this level out here on TH-cam!
I would use this in my music production career to do mixing and mastering as a young producer
I'd use it for music production, and designing merchandise as well as making motivational videos for people wanting to join the Marine Corps and veterans
Subscribed, thank you so much, this is exactly the type of video I was looking for! Music production inclined :)
Amazing video Thanks so much!!! I was looking fo rinfo and I wasn't clear of what I need it, you rock bro thanks!!!
Literally the most informative video for production laptops
Legion giveaway is awesome guys. I’d love the performance upgrade I’d get from the cpu alone.
Have produced a 40 track song on an i5 with 6Gb ram! Crazy huh ?
Now I have an i7 11th gen laptop with 32gb ram. Couldn’t be happier
DPC latency?
High quality material here. Only goes to show that you need more than a 5 min video to explain something in depth enough to be of real use. Thanks!
I would use this laptop to make music and work on my label business!
Super helpful thank you so much❣️ subscribed , hope you reach your subscriber goals :)
This is a fantastic video which has cleared up a lot for me. Thanks!
I have a digital mixer which can input multiple channels into my DAW, so I want to use it to create some live recordings, as well as using it for my own stuff at home. My emphasis is on recording live instruments. How much of a factor is DPC latency on real-time playback, and do you have a recommendation for a machine to minimise this?
I’d use the Lenovo to setup my dad so we can record his album! 🙌🎶
AMAZING! Great to find a Tek Nerd willing to get into the nitty gritty when it comes to audio production. Also if you are looking for the best bang for buck audio production desktop that is made for super extreme workflows, "Mix engineering from a live environment 32+ channels 10 ish groups and 100 + plugin instances" Let me know.
Thanks for this video. I am planning to buy a new pc for my music productions.
lol I have a 5 year old laptop with i5, 6GB Ram, and 1TB hard drive, I run Cubase and Fl studio, with numerous 3rd party plugins, never had a problem!!!!
I would use the Lenovo Legion 5 Pro as my music machine: vocal mixing, recording, audio mixing, recording, mastering, making beats. I am looking for a new pc to upgrade from my 2015 pc thats is outdated and it would be very great if I was able to get that laptop.
YESSS!!! THANK YOU FOR THIS! FINALLY!
Sorry it took so long! I did a TON of research to make sure I had the best info possible!
@@BenGKaiser that's great man! and it's okay, take your time with the content. 👍🏽
Thanks! 👌😸
The well presented points were highly informative for the budget (DAW-use-only) laptop specs I was looking for. 👍
I liked the SSD vs HDD metaphor! I would add that getting the information from the RAM is like reading the information from a block note on your desk. While reading from CPU registers is like having the information already in your brain :D (But we're getting more into software engineering stuff here 😁)
I've got the book3 360, 13" 1335u 16gb (today).. is the best choose in my case .. I do produce in Ableton live,and use to play live loops with a midi keyboard and I'm musician so I play reading with music sheet, so the tablet mode is perfect, and to do some quick photo and video edits..
Thank you for this video! Went with the Dell XPS 15 to make some basic demos (i72800h, 32gb ram, 1tb & rtx 3050)
i7-2800h and 32gb ram for basic demos? :D
what is basic in allat?
That's the best video I've seen in this category , ✌️
I remember running a daw and recording a guitar track with a 5th gen core i3 with 4gb ram laptop back in college. Hahaha
Thanks for sharing so much interesting info. I'm gonna buy a new laptop for Ableton live performance. Low latency and smooth flow working are the elemental aspects for me.
I'm looking for some second hand stuff under 500€. My options (random / not in order of actual preference):
1 - Dell precision 7520 (i7 6820HQ / 24gb ram)
2 - Hp Envy (i7 8550 U / 16gb)
3 - Asus ROG Strix (i7 7700HQ / 16gb)
4 - MSI GS43VR 7RE PHANTOM PRO (i7 7700HQ / 16gb)
5 - Dell Alienware 15 (i7 6820HQ / 16gb)
Could you simply write the number of your option?
Thanks a lot!!
Greaaaaaat thank you so much this video is saving time to hundreds of people🎉❤❤❤
I'd use the laptop to further my life by going more into my passion (music production and visuals) I currently work at Starbucks and would much rather do music full time lol
Much appreciation for this video! 🤙🤘
for windows laptops my top choices are
1. asus zenbook pro 14, i9-12900h, 32gb ram, 2tb ssd
2. asus rog flow z13, i9-12900h, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd
Hello there! What do you think about framework? I just lost 2 MacBook Pro in the last 2 years and I’d like to buy a computer that is reparable as much as possible. Thanks a lot for your great video!
Awesome video. Thank so much!!
Great video learned so much👍
Congrats on 100k Subs, This video was extremely helpful. I am also looking for a Pc comparison video. I welcome any suggestion
idk what it is bro but you looks so nostalgic
Hi Benji,
Love this video and have watched it, and several other of your videos, multiple times.
I hope to build a simple recording studio, like the idea of getting a 2-in-1 laptop, and am trying to decide between
- a Lenovo Yoga 7i, 16" 2-in-1 with 32GB & 1TB (@1399.99) and
- an Asus Zenbook 15 Pro Flip OLED (Q539) with 16GB & 1TB (@ 1119.99)
In your Zenbook Flip review, you mention the laptop is really silent on Whisper Mode, which would be great for recording, but i question if i may in the future want more RAM to run the DAW of my choice
On the other hand, although the Yoga 7i i found offers plenty of RAM, i'm concerned it may not be as quiet when it comes time to record
Both laptops have dedicated/discrete GPUs
What do you think?
Which of the two laptops would you go with?
Hope this finds you well and look forward to hearing back.
UPDATE: Went ahead and purchased the ASUS Zenbook.
Decided that the complete silence of Whisper mode on the Zenbook trumped the extra RAM on the Yoga 7i for my recording studio needs.
fyi: i used the link from one of your your Zenbook Pro 15 Flip OLED reviews to make the purchase, so you should be getting a commission from the sale.
Hope you're doing well and really appreciate everything i learned from your vids.
Shabbat shalom :)
I wish that I knew about DPC latency before I spent £2,650 on an MSI GE77HX Raider, (i9 12900HX, 32GB RAM GTX 3070 Ti, 8GB VRAM, 2TB SSD). My old £1,650 Alienware R3 15, (i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM, RTX 1060, 6GB VRAM, 512GB SSD, 1 GB HDD), handled far more VSTs in Reason 12 than this otherwise awesome gaming laptop.
It can't be emphasised enough how important a system's DPC latency is.
Just the channel I was looking for!!!!! :-) I am on a Mac Mini M1 and looking at either the BenQ PS3205U or the Dell u3219q both 4k! What would you recommend ? Also would it be better do get the PD3220U
great review so in depth with the sunject
Nice video !!! Between Dell G16 2022 and Asus Rog Zephyrus m16 2022, who you prefer???
..considering buying a Schenker/ XMG laptop for audio..fan noise is always a thing and under maximum load in benches..but you are not running always on 100% Capacity with modern cpu..and usually you can set up different energy profiles..on some devices even a custom fan curve..
This is an amazing video man
Excellent video, subbed
Love how explained everything
Getting the HP Envy 16! Looks like it now has the same specs as the Dell XPS with a RTX™ 3060 Laptop GPU (6 GB GDDR6 dedicated) and 1TB of storage!
Great review you cover everything helping creators with it all! I'm going to enjoy the Lenovo Legion 5 that I'm going to win from you! 🎉 C'mon 100k🎉 So Close 🎉
Great content I really would love one of those legion laptops I'm an audio engineerand could truly be blessed is I had one of these and being a husband and dad of two kids most of my finances go into taking care of my family so it would be great if you chose me thanks oh and I never win anything in my life so that would be cool too 😂 keep up the great work
I would use the Lenovo Legion as a work computer, it would be an excellent replacement to my 12 year old HP laptop
I must be below entry level since I use a 2012 MacBook Pro 13.
I’m Ableton guy and upgraded ram to 16 gb and hd to ssd in my old MacBook
Ben with the exact info I needed.
Wonderful video... earned a sub bro
Exactly what I needed. Awesome. But I absolutely disagree with that thing that Macs have the same (audio) performance as Windows laptops, it is not even close. Even shitty old Macs can handle audio better than most modern Windows machines.